400 years ago Zemsky Sobor elected Mikhail Fedorovich Romanov as Russian Tsar

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400 years ago Zemsky Sobor elected Mikhail Fedorovich Romanov as Russian Tsar

February 21 (March 3) 1613 The Zemsky Sobor elected Mikhail F. Romanov (1596 — 1645) as the Tsar of the Russian State. Mikhail Fedorovich became the first Russian tsar from the Romanov dynasty. He was the son of the boyar Fyodor Nikitich Romanov (later Moscow Patriarch Philaret) and Ksenia Ivanovna (nee Shestova), and was the first cousin of the last Russian sovereign from the ruling branch of the Rurik dynasty, Fyodor Ivanovich. Mikhail's grandfather was Nikita Romanovich Zakharyin (ca. 1522 — 1585 or 1586); his sister, Anastasia Zakharyina-Yuryeva (Romanovna), was the first wife of Tsar Ivan Vasilyevich, the mother of Tsar Fedor Ivanovich.

The Romanov family belonged to the ancient families of the Moscow boyars. The first representative of this name, known from written sources, is Andrei Ivanovich, nicknamed Mare, in the middle of the 14 century served the great Vladimir and Moscow prince Simeon Gordomu. Under Boris Godunov, the Romanovs were accused of conspiracy and subjected to disgrace. In 1601, the sons of Nikita Romanovich, Fyodor, Alexander, Mikhail, Ivan and Vasily were tonsured as monks and exiled to Siberia, where most of them died. In 1605, the False Dmitry I, proving his relationship with the Romanovs, returned from exile the surviving members of the Romanovs' clan - Fyodor Nikitich (as a monk of Philaret), his wife Xenia (as a monk of Martha), their son, and Ivan Nikitich.

Philaret became one of the highest hierarchs of the church - the metropolitan of Rostov, and remained in opposition to the throne after the overthrow of the False Dmitry Vasily Shuisky. From 1608, he was the “named patriarch” in the Tushinsky camp of the new impostor, False Dmitry II (“Tushinsky thief”), his spiritual power spread to the territories controlled by the Tushins. At the same time, the “patriarch” Filaret, if necessary, presented himself before the enemies of False Dmitry II as his “prisoner” and did not apply for the post of patriarch. In 1610, Fyodor Nikitich was “beaten off” from the Tushins, took part in the overthrow of Vasily Shuisky and became an active activist of the “seven-boyars” regime. Unlike Patriarch Hermogenes, Filaret was in principle not opposed to the election of the Russian tsar of the Polish prince Vladislav Sigismundovich, but suggested that he should accept Orthodoxy. As a participant in negotiations with the Polish king Sigismund III near Smolensk in 1611, he refused to sign the final treaty prepared by the Poles, and was arrested, stayed in Polish captivity until 1619, when he was released in accordance with the terms of the Deulinsky 1618 truce of the year.

Ivan Nikitich was produced by the False Dmitry in the boyars. In 1606 — 1607 He was a voivod in Kozelsk and fought with supporters of False Dmitry II. Then he became part of the boyars government - the Seven Boyars. Ivan Romanov became one of the richest people in Russia. However, during the Zemsky Sobor, the new Tsar who elected 1613 miscalculated, Ivan Nikitich supported the candidacy of the Swedish king Karl Philip, and when the Cossacks nominated his nephew Michael, he replied: "That is Prince Mikhail Fyodorovich still young and not completely intelligent." As a result, during the reign of Mikhail Fedorovich, Ivan Nikitich was removed from public affairs.

The convocation of the Zemsky Sobor and its decision

October 26 1612 in Moscow, without receiving help from the forces of hetman Chodkiewicz, capitulated the Polish garrison. The leadership of the Second Militia decided to hold elections for a new king. On behalf of the liberators of Moscow - Pozharsky and Trubetskoy, letters about the convocation of the Zemsky Sobor were sent to Russian cities. There is information about the letters sent to Vychegodskaya Sol, Pskov, Novgorod, Uglich, they ordered the representatives of each city to arrive in the capital before December 6. However, the electoral congress process was delayed. Some lands were severely devastated and depopulated, someone sent a 10-10 person, someone one. As a result, the opening date of the Zemsky Sobor meetings was postponed from December 6 1612 to January 6 1613.

I must say that the problems at that time were enough without the Zemsky Sobor. The Polish king, taking part of the Smolensk garrison and joining the remnants of Chodkiewicz's troops, moved along the Rzhevskaya road to Moscow. Receiving the news of the fall of the Polish garrison in Moscow, he recalled the Smolensk Treaty, which he had earlier rejected, and began to say that he had come to give Vladislav, chosen by the Russians, who allegedly had previously been ill and could not arrive. In Moscow, they were not ready for serious battles: the fortifications were half-destroyed, there was no food supply, so most of the militia, nobles and Cossacks went home and other areas. Trubetskoy and Pozharsky had no more than 3-4 thousand warriors. However, they decided not to give in and meet the enemy with their breasts, not admitting them to the city.

Siguzmund meanwhile approached Volokolamsk. Poles in the fortress was not allowed. The king leaped arrogance and decided to punish the disobedient city, the siege began. The embassy of Mezetsky was sent to Moscow accompanied by an 1 ths horse regiment. The militia with the embassy did not stand on ceremony, the horsemen were rejected, and Ambassador Mezetsky ran to the Russians. At this time, Siguzmund was unsuccessfully trampling near Volokolamsk, all Polish assaults were repelled, the Cossacks made a successful sortie, seizing several guns. Winter began, foragers were killed by partisans (shishy). 27 November the king gave the order to retreat.

Russia was able to more or less calmly proceed to state-building. For this, the Zemstvo government decided not to stir up the past and not to settle accounts, since many prominent boyars and nobles served various governments. Whoever and in what party he served during the Time of Troubles, retained the awards and ranks, even those received from the “Tushinsky thief”. Only the titles and awards granted by Sigismund were declared invalid. Under arrest took only obvious Polish accomplices, Andronov and his assistants.

At the beginning of 1613, delegates began to come to Moscow. Elected from all classes and groups came: nobles, clergy, townspeople (citizens), archers, Cossacks, black-nosy peasants. 16 January Zemsky Sobor began its work. Among the representatives of the Russian nobility there were several names that could claim the throne. This was the Golitsyn family, which was descended from Gedemin Lithuanian. However, the most prominent representative of this family - the commander and most active participant in the events of the Time of Troubles, Vasily Vasilyevich Golitsyn (1572 — 1619) was absent. V. Golitsyn fought against Lzhedmitry, but after the death of Boris Godunov, he and Fyodor Basmanov changed Fedor Borisovich Godunov and went over to the side of the impostor. He was a participant in the assassination of Fyodor Godunov, the conspiracy and the overthrow of False Dmitry, then Vasily Shuisky, he was invariably on the side of the victors in all conflicts. He was unlucky in 1610, when he became a member of the embassy to Sigismund III. He was detained along with Filaret, then he became a prisoner and died in captivity.

Fyodor Ivanovich Mstislavsky, the prince bred from Gedemin. He still in the 1598 year after the death of Fyodor Ivanovich was called among the claimants to the throne, was a competitor to Boris Godunov. In the Time of Troubles, the role of the “king's maker” played a role, his name as a possible master of the Russian throne sounded twice more - in 1606 and 1611. After the overthrow of Vasily Shuisky, the political role of Mstislavsky became even stronger, he headed the Seven Boyars (1610 — 1612). During this period, was a supporter of the election to the Russian throne, Vladislav. However, in 1613, his chances of obtaining the throne were undermined by cooperation with the Poles. Apparently, he himself was not very willing to take the throne - he could try to do it earlier.

Among the clans that could claim the throne, were the Kurakins (they were descended from Gedemin). Prince Ivan Semenovich Kurakin (? -1632) was a member of a conspiracy against False Dmitry and enthroned Prince Vasily Shuisky. The prince fought against the troops of False Dmitry II, acted under the leadership of Prince Mikhail Skopin-Shuisky. Together with Mstislavsky, after the overthrow of V. Shuisky, he initiated the election of the ruler of the Russian kingdom from a European royal dynasty. He actively promoted the candidacy of Prince Vladislav, after this plan was not realized, Kurakin switched to the service of Sigismund III. The traitor's reputation did not allow him to claim the throne in 1613.

Among the candidates for the kingdom was Prince Ivan Mikhailovich Vorotynsky, as one of the most distinguished and capable boyars. Vorotynskie were a branch of the princes Novosilsky and were considered one of the most noble families of the Russian kingdom. Ivan Vorotinsky contributed to the overthrow of the False Dmitry, fought with the supporters of the second impostor and Bolotnikov, was among those who took power from V. Shuisky. He became a member of the boyar government, but supported Hermogenes and was persecuted by other boyars, was arrested. According to the official version, during the election of 1613, Vorotinsky recused himself.

Godunovs and Shuiskys could also claim the throne, these names occupied the throne and were relatives of the earlier ruling monarchs. Shuisky were descendants of the Suzdal princes, belonged to the Rurik family. However, representatives of these clans were considered politically dangerous, since taking the throne, they could deal with settling accounts with opponents, those who participated in the possible poisoning of Boris Godunov, the murder of his son, the overthrow of Vasily Shuisky and his extradition to the Poles.

Princes Dmitry Pozharsky and Dmitry Trubetskoy could also become candidates for the throne. The generals glorified their names in the fight against the "thieves" and the Poles, but did not differ in nobility. But Pozharsky did not suffer from heightened ambition and didn’t mark the kings. In Moscow, the formal leadership gave Trubetskoy, who tried to organize a campaign of his election. In addition, after being wounded in the head, Pozharsky was often sick and went down for a long time. Among the foreign candidates were Polish and Swedish queens Vladislav Sigismundovich and Carl Philipp.

One of the first decisions of the Council was the refusal to consider the candidacies of the royals Vladislav and Karl Philip, as well as Marina Mniszek and her son from marriage with False Dmitry II, “Little Pug”. Here for the kind of Romanov opened a straight road. Their interests at the Council were defended by the boyar Fyodor Sheremetev, who was a relative of the Romanovs. Other Romanov relatives, Cherkasskys, Troyekurovs, Lobanovs, Mikhalkovs, Veshnyakovs, joined their parties. They supported the candidacy of Romanov and the clergy - Patriarch Filaret enjoyed considerable authority in their midst. In particular, for the Romanov spoke Trinity-Sergius Monastery. Researchers point out several factors that influenced the election of Romanov. Mikhail's father, Patriarch Filaret, was in the camp of the Tushino Thief, which gave hope to his former supporters that they would not be persecuted. Philaret took a patriotic stance in the Smolensk embassy, ​​earning universal respect. The last name of the Romanovs was not badly smeared with cooperation with the Poles. Boyarin Ivan Nikitich Romanov was a member of the Seven Boyars, but was in opposition to his relatives, opposed the election of Fyodor. Boyar Fyodor Sheremetyev agitated: “Let's choose Misha Romanov! He is young and will be ours! ”Fyodor’s youth and inexperience in Moscow politics (according to some sources, he received poor education and training because of the turbulent events of this time), was beneficial to experienced princely boyars.

However, the main role was played by the force factor - the Cossack detachments that remained in Moscow literally pushed Mikhail Fedorovich’s candidacy. In whose interests they acted, story is silent. 4 (according to other data, 7) at a meeting of the Council in February a proposal for the election of Mikhail was filed by servicemen from Galich, Don ataman Mezhakov, kelar of the Trinity-Sergius Monastery Palitsyn and Kaluga merchant Sudovshikov. The issue has not been finally resolved. He was postponed for two weeks so that delegates could go to their cities and “see” whether the locals would support their candidacy.

February 21 gathered again. The boyars, who insisted on other candidates, started talking again about foreign queens, or postponement, they say, we must call Mikhail himself to look at him. Here Moscow simple people and the Cossacks were outraged by delays and intrigues, the final discussion was brought to the “street”. In Red Square, where crowds of people gathered, they unanimously approved the election of Mikhail as Tsar. Around the same time, Ivan Susanin accomplished his feat, who started one of the Polish gangs who continued to rob Russian regions in the swamps.

A few days later, an embassy was sent to Kostroma, where Mikhail Romanov lived with his mother, under the command of Archimandrite Theodoret of Trinity. It was supposed to give Michael a catholic oath and announce his election to the throne. According to the official version, Michael initially refused such honor, since the fate of the last Russian monarchs was very sad. He was supported by his mother Martha. Anyway, Mikhail Romanov listened to the arguments of the envoys and agreed to take the Russian presto. He arrived in Moscow 2 May 1613 of the year. In Russia, a new dynasty was established.

Russia has made an important step towards stabilization, the end of the Troubles. The war with the "thieves", the bandits of the robbers, the Poles and the Swedes, the reassurance of the state was delayed for several more years, but it was already a rise, not a fall.
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  1. +2
    21 February 2013 08: 36
    Now Russia needs a new cathedral.
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      +1
      21 February 2013 08: 42
      um, you have a bold proposal, although I am a monarchist, I can hardly imagine how Putin will be elected to the Kingdom wassat
      1. +4
        21 February 2013 08: 48
        Quote: Yoshkin Cat
        I’m a monarchist, but I can hardly imagine how Putin will be elected to the Kingdom

        And where does Putin? He will not be a monarch, he will be an imposter. And Putin himself is not so stupid that he would not understand this. This will split the society. The Tsar should be from the heirs, and not modern politicians, how popular they were.
        1. Yoshkin Kot
          +2
          21 February 2013 09: 21
          Why is this? Do you think anyone will be pulled out of the heirs (following the example of Franco?)? Did they really stay? Paul I was the only one who changed the law of preservation of inheritance, and there seemed to be no Great Princes in a direct male line (of those not devoid of grand dignity) Or am I mistaken?
          ps article +
          1. +1
            21 February 2013 09: 31
            Quote: Yoshkin Cat
            it seems that in a direct male line the Grand Dukes did not remain (from those not devoid of grand dignity) Or am I mistaken?
            ps article +

            Yes, it seems they said there is an heir somewhere, but who is he and how old is he request
            1. Yoshkin Kot
              +1
              21 February 2013 09: 58
              I heard like at Gazprom, but no details, and I doubt very much that he still has at least some rights
            2. avt
              0
              21 February 2013 09: 58
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Yes, it seems they said there is an heir somewhere, but who is he and how old is he

              No problem! If there was a horse, there’s a yoke! laughing The monarchists will take the monarchists for the manual "The History of the City of Foolov" and there will be a tsar! Real! Orthodox! The main thing is not to forget to correct the Bible - the 1st book of KINGDOMS from 8,7 to 8,9 must be deleted so that unstable minds are not confused. Yes, and to ban Nekrasov !!!
            3. erg
              +1
              21 February 2013 13: 27
              The only one who can claim the Russian throne is someone from the sons of the king of Greece. The descendants of the Romanovs, even during the life of the last tsar, are deprived of the right to be heirs because of the morganistic marriages of their ancestors, relatives of the tsar. (The ban applies not only to children who have entered into an unequal marriage, but also to all descendants).
        2. Octavian avgust
          +4
          21 February 2013 10: 41
          And for what merit? Stalin is also not their blood, but he is one of the strongest leaders in Russia and his time!
          1. 0
            21 February 2013 13: 45
            It is almost proved that the Przhevalsky illegitimate son of Alexander 2. Well, in more detail at http://pikabu.ru/story/stalin__syin_przhevalskogo_784131
      2. Octavian avgust
        0
        21 February 2013 10: 37
        To do this, set the stage!
    2. avt
      +1
      21 February 2013 09: 56
      Quote: bunta
      Now Russia needs a new cathedral.

      Yeah, you’re expressing the St. Petersburg dream straight. Everything is there, money, power, but there is no happiness! And the elections are staggering. It is necessary to get out of God once and there will be happiness! laughing The throne room in the Kremlin and in the Winter Hall has been restored, according to the Tushino scenario, there is already a line of candidates for boyars and nobles! “People of servile rank are real dogs sometimes, the harder the punishment, the dearer they are, gentlemen.” Nekrasov.
      1. Yoshkin Kot
        -1
        21 February 2013 10: 01
        and the elections did not bother you ???? I personally don't want to get sick of it! because they win, with their "honesty" not those who can "do" and the one who can only "write" the example of EBN is not indicative? here's your democracy. Okay, Russia is lucky with Putin! And imagine if, like 17, empty flaws such as Lvov and Kerensky (Germans, Gaidar, Kasparov) would win? where would you go? before fascism? and let the communists not dream of coming to power, they would not have succeeded (an example of an ukroiny is indicative, I would not be surprised if there is someone next to Tyagnibok-frotman
    3. 0
      21 February 2013 15: 42
      We would now instead of edrosov Alexander 3rd ......
  2. Straiser
    +3
    21 February 2013 09: 11
    The people have already established themselves at the gene level faith in the priest king. That is Putin V.V. now. The Tsar of Russia is no longer needed since the Bolsheviks destroyed the nobility ...
  3. avt
    0
    21 February 2013 09: 40
    Good article . Especially for monarchists who sacredly believe in the chosen one of the Romanov monarchs. Well, if it's easier, while the militia fought with the Poles, the patriarch "whom the thief False Dmitry appointed, and Godunov forcibly tonsured the monks, with a gang of robbers called the Cossacks, put his own son on the throne . Normal stroke laughing Well, now it may become clear to some of why Fedya and Petya Romanovs fought against parochialism and burned class documents. Well, Petya could not stand the "backward" boyars the kinship of the remembering ones, of course, they hindered progress. laughing
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      0
      21 February 2013 10: 02
      not tired of carrying Fomenkovsky Russophobic nonsense?
      1. avt
        -1
        21 February 2013 10: 10
        Quote: Yoshkin Cat
        not tired of carrying Fomenkovsky Russophobic nonsense?

        “People of serfdom, real dogs sometimes, the harder the punishment, the dearer the Lord is to them ...” Read the Bible 1-st book of Kings 8,7-8,9 can help.
        1. Yoshkin Kot
          +1
          21 February 2013 10: 26
          tired of his Russophobic and anti-Christian antics, your ancestors at least 40 generations tossed and turned in the tombs, from the fact that they had such a miracle
          1. avt
            0
            21 February 2013 10: 44
            Quote: Yoshkin Cat
            tired of his Russophobic and anti-Christian antics

            laughing That is, advice to read the holy Bible for Christians - anti-Christian trick ?! good laughing Throw the computer - go on stage to speak to Zadornov.
            1. Yoshkin Kot
              -1
              21 February 2013 12: 04
              baby, I pointed out your behavior unworthy of the high rank of a Russian person
              1. avt
                +2
                21 February 2013 12: 29
                Yoshkin Cat,
                Quote: Yoshkin Cat
                baby, I pointed out your behavior unworthy of the high rank of a Russian person

                Daughter, learn the materiel, read the primary sources and the Holy Scriptures called the BIBLE. Then you won’t have to puff up and you’ll be carrying out weighty arguments, and not the youngster.
                1. Yoshkin Kot
                  0
                  21 February 2013 12: 43
                  I forgot to ask you wassat
  4. +2
    21 February 2013 09: 50
    One way or another, Mikhail Romanov listened to the arguments of the envoys and agreed to accept the Russian throne ,,,, - agreed the third time, Anastasia is the first wife of Ivan the Terrible from the Romanov clan, one of the conditions is a connection with the dynasty
  5. predator.3
    +1
    21 February 2013 11: 22
    The main thing is that the elections were held peacefully - without a civil war! (For example, in England, 30 years were cut to establish a new dynasty, a war of white and red roses) And already with his son Alexei Mikhailovich Russia stepped from the Urals to the Pacific Ocean!
    1. avt
      -2
      21 February 2013 11: 58
      Quote: predator.3
      The main thing is that the elections were held peacefully - without a civil war! (For example, in England, 30 years were cut to establish a new dynasty, a war of white and red roses) And already with his son Alexei Mikhailovich Russia stepped from the Urals to the Pacific Ocean!

      Well, yes, of course. The Time of Troubles with the intermediate tsars and nobles do not count in the offset, it was in the looking glass.
      1. Yoshkin Kot
        -1
        21 February 2013 12: 05
        um, and the Time of Troubles began in the year 17, we just got out, and you ryunyusha just want to continue it
      2. predator.3
        +2
        21 February 2013 16: 09
        Yes, there was the Time of Troubles, from 1605 to 1613. although they didn’t fight for 30 years, like the British, they shed no less blood! I meant that they did not wave sabers in the Zemsky Sobor, but they came (as the hunchback said) to consensus and settled on MF Romanov, a 16-year-old boy! hi
        1. avt
          +1
          21 February 2013 18: 21
          Quote: predator.3
          Yes, there was the Time of Troubles, from 1605 to 1613. although they didn’t fight for 30 years, like the British, they shed no less blood! I meant that they did not wave sabers in the Zemsky Sobor, but they came (as the hunchback said) to consensus and settled on MF Romanov, a 16-year-old boy! hi

          You take the final part from the general context, and perhaps not quite the final one, that is my disagreement with your comment, and not the fact that there would be no clashes. The opponents of the Romanovs really did not have military power at the cathedral, everything was clearly controlled by Trubetskov's Cossacks. All factors were perfectly matched - place, time, composition of participants and "security", here one can only applaud the organizational skills of the Romanov party. A similar case, when Menshikov brought the guard and the Senate approved Peter's wife as Empress. In both cases, a clever and well-conducted action. But after all, life does not even stop there. For a long time the dynasty was established, under the "Quiet" after all, it was not just a drunken Cossack revolt of Razin, there was a real political background, and no less than the "False Dmitry" action under Godunov .. And the legitimization of the dynasty in Orthodoxy with the involvement of the Patriarch of Antioch for the ordination of priests under Nikon's church reform organized by the same "Quiet"? The elimination of the "Old Believers" is a very serious topic, taking into account the realities of the time! And it was very tough. Here and the siege of the Solovetsky monastery by troops, the "self-immolation" of the Old Believers. It is not enough to take power, it is necessary to retain and ensure the succession of the clan.
  6. avt
    0
    21 February 2013 12: 12
    Quote: Yoshkin Cat
    m, and the Time of Troubles began in the year 17, we just got out, and you ryunosha just want to continue it
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    Son. I'm not talking to you. Go read the BIBLE, you are the most Christian boyar of the Cossack, well, at least that part of it that I indicated in the link in the previous one. Let predator.3 listen to him, my comment.
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      -2
      21 February 2013 12: 27
      baby, tired, exercise in Russophobia on the website of the US State Department
      1. avt
        +1
        21 February 2013 12: 50
        Quote: Yoshkin Cat
        baby, tired, exercise in Russophobia on the website of the US State Department

        Here Borka Chubais courted the Hohenzollers from the Kirilovichs, it is decided. We will attribute you to the great princes of Chubais! In the meantime, SPRAY cat shy under the bench! While the Bible did not set off. laughing Again, it will be clear whose will you be, in the sense of a serf
        1. Yoshkin Kot
          -2
          21 February 2013 13: 17
          son of the colonel of the NKVD, if my memory serves me, your chubais
          1. avt
            -1
            21 February 2013 14: 57
            Quote: Yoshkin Cat
            son of the colonel of the NKVD, if my memory serves me, your chubais

            Now yours, serf. Well, together with Borka Chubais, the son of a teacher of Marxism of Leninism, the monarchy, you wanted to see him at the stable and make a joke. Well, it’s not in the nobles that you are a serf to ascribe? There, the line is so big. laughing
            1. Yoshkin Kot
              -1
              22 February 2013 12: 11
              n-dya, go on camlay, a pagan idol with a waffle iron wassat
  7. +2
    21 February 2013 12: 27
    Mikhalkov somewhere flashed in relatives ...

    Nikita to the Kingdom !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    From he will prescribe the development scenario to us ...
    How to live in a movie - for every mortal in the main role and in a pretty woman, and nobles in the producers will be noted ...
    1. avt
      -1
      21 February 2013 12: 53
      Quote: Tartary
      Nikita to the Kingdom

      laughing good There is experience, relatives took out pots from under the kings and the cat Yoshkin to the chain next to him! laughing
      1. Yoshkin Kot
        0
        22 February 2013 13: 05
        my relatives, unlike your relatives, on the other side, on the paternal side of the Cossacks, on the grandfather line (mother’s father) are similar to the Moscow archers assigned to Tsarev Gorod under Fedor Ivanovich (I haven’t found any documents yet, but according to family tradition, it’s so) yes and old-timers of the city posad, where the archers smile
  8. 0
    21 February 2013 12: 46
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Yes, it seems they said there is an heir somewhere, but who is he and how old is he

    Well, why is Russia such a ruler, show off on the throne. So we already had such a guard of the stool, and the ruler of the time (I think everyone will guess who I am). In Russia, problems are higher than the roof, things aren’t right, and around it a bunch of sneaky advisers and other ma’s will immediately gather, appoint huge salaries, and more. No thanks, passed already.
    1. -5
      21 February 2013 15: 59
      Well, why is Russia such a ruler, show off on the throne. So we already had such a guard of the stool, and the ruler of the time (I think everyone will guess who I am). In Russia, problems are higher than the roof, things aren’t right, and around it a bunch of sneaky advisers and other ma’s will immediately gather, appoint huge salaries, and more. No thanks, passed already.

      Huge salaries? Such liberalistic nonsense could only be written by an ignorant person. Do you know that in the family of Nikolai2, the children carried things one after another? Do you know that Nikolai2’s wife and her daughters were bandaged up during the First World War in the hospital? You know that Nikolai 2 gave his entire bank account to him as a legacy to charity. you know that Alexander 3 wore simple clothes and worked without a secretary, doing everything himself! Peter1 personally commanded troops on the battlefield. Nicholas 2 was in the bet (and very successfully). At least one of your FUCKING PRESIDENT LEAVES AT LEAST ONCE AT CHECHNYA DURING BATTLES TO COMMAND BY THE MILITARY ?! YOUR SRALIN HOREN at least SOLD OUT FOR THE SOLDIER TO CHOOSE?! WHERE KHERA KADYROV WEARS A RED TAKE AND A HERO OF RUSSIA AND A VETERAN OF THE CHECHEN IS NECESSARY FOR ANYONE EXCEPT? OR FORGET THAT PRI NIKOLAE 2 RUSSIA HAS 5, !!!! a place in the world in terms of living !!!! (January 1, 1905) Forgot how they built when Alexander 3 transib in 1 year?
      BLESSED! LEARN HISTORY! Creatures ungrateful! ALMOST all that you have is thanks to the Emperor Kings!
      1. +2
        21 February 2013 18: 15
        Quote: Max111
        Do you know that in the family of Nikolai2, the children carried things one after another? Do you know that Nikolai2’s wife and her daughters were bandaged up during the First World War in the hospital? You know that Nikolai 2 gave his entire bank account to him as a legacy to charity.

        1. What account are we talking about? From whom did he receive the inheritance?
        2. To whom belonged:
        1.1 Ships: Alexandria (I) (1851-1906), Standard (I) (1857-1892), Power (1871-1905), Tsarevna (1874-1917), Livadia I (1873-1878), Livadia II, North Star 1890-1917, Alexandria (II) (1904-1917 / 1927), Standard (II).
        1.2 Palaces: Alexandrovsky Palace, Livadiysky Palace, Peterhof Palaces, Winter Palace.
        1.3. For example, jewels in the amount of 197 pieces in the amount of 3270693 gold rubles. Pendants, necklaces, bracelets, chains, including unique items, a diamond brooch of 100 carats, hairpins - 44 and 36 carats, donated by the Turkish Sultan a crescent moon - 70 carats.
        2. In the hospital, they worked for what reasons? Making money on daily bread or out of compassion?
        3. The soldiers of the Russian army met Nikolai’s decision to take up the post of Supreme Commander-in-Chief without enthusiasm. At the same time, the German command was satisfied with the departure of Prince Nikolai Nikolayevich from the post of supreme commander in chief - it considered him a tough and skillful opponent. A number of his strategic ideas were rated by Erich Ludendorff as extremely bold and brilliant.
        4. Yeah. 5th place out of 5.

        Quote: Max111
        ALMOST all that you have is thanks to the Emperor Kings!

        I wonder what? Announce the entire list please.
      2. +2
        21 February 2013 18: 32
        Dear Maxim, I can be accused of any bias, but what I absolutely do not have in me is the worship of the idea of ​​liberal democrats. Well, that I am an ignorant person, in any matters, which is quite possible, I do not pretend to be all-knowing, I just draw some conclusions from the information available to me, and it is very impartial for the Russian monarchy. And then the offspring of the so-called "house of Romanovs" are by no means poor people, and they deeply do not care about Russia, like their advisers (Russia in their eyes is just a tidbit and in order to take possession of it they are ready to play whatever roles and on whatever spiritual strings of the trusting , but not always smart people). By the way, why are you sure that your information is accurate? Now, as for the command of the troops by Nikolai Romanov, well, rightly it would be better if he did not do this, well, he was not given this, but Comrade Stalin did not command the troops (he did not go to the front), however, under his leadership, the country defeated the most terrible enemy of the 20th century. As for President Putin, he was in Chechnya and was in Dagestan (when Basayev was killed), he is not a timid man, but those who are supposed to command the troops should. Why R.A. Kadyrov wears the star of the hero of Russia, because he was awarded it. I would rather not say anything about Pyotr Romanov, who personally commanded the troops, because the consequences of the rule of this representative of the "House of Romanovs" were very sad for the Russian people. But your assertion (ALMOST everything that you have is thanks to the Tsars - Emperors!) Is NOT TRUE, everything that our officials are now plundering (by the way, they cannot plunder it to the end) is just laid by the SOVIET PEOPLE under the leadership of Comrade STALIN.
        1. Yoshkin Kot
          0
          22 February 2013 12: 13
          Do you see a big difference between liberal democracy and Marxist democracy? same eggs, profile view wassat
      3. Horde
        +1
        21 February 2013 19: 59
        Maks111,
        BLESSED! LEARN HISTORY! Creatures ungrateful! ALMOST all that you have is thanks to the Emperor Kings!


        broke up and pours, the triangle will be drunk, whether it is a parallelepiped ... laughing
        Do you know that in the family of Nikolai2, the children carried things one after another? Do you know that Nikolay2’s wife and her daughters were bandaged up during the First World War in the hospital? Do you know that Nikolay 2 donated his entire bank account to him for charity?


        Nikolashka prosral TWO WARS and TWO REVOLUTIONS! Here you have the ruler of Russia, he was a weak, weak-willed, not able to insist on his king. Nicholas 2 badly married a woman carrier of an HEREDITARY disease, or rather this marriage was imposed on him and sentenced his offspring to an unfortunate fate. Nicholas was not seen by the people (he began with Khodynka ), then the workers were shot in 1905, he did not like to know the Russian Empire, the European powers considered Russia a HALF-COLUMN of European capital. Among the people this king was nicknamed BLOOD.
        Peter1 personally commanded troops on the battlefield.


        The Prut campaign of Tsar Peter ended in the fact that in the FIRST battle, Peter's troops were defeated, surrounded and laid down their arms. From 53 thousand troops returned home, only HALF the rest were held captive. In this campaign, Peter took 2000 women and wives to the war officers, maids of honor, as well as women for secular pleasures. When the army of Peter was captured, the Janissaries who could not bear such a relationship cut out all the women!
        The commander lost this grief as a result of the Prut treaty of the campaign. ALL BLACK SEA conquests should be returned back to Atamania, Menshikov, who the richest paid for Peter 200 thousand. in gold
        The city of St. Petersburg was built almost by Catherine 2. From the era of Peter the city left 2 !!! buildings. It was believed that Pererburg is a city-port, but this is NOT POSSIBLE because the deepwater channel from Kotlin to the mouth of the Neva was dug, only in the 20th century !!! and, accordingly, all the pictures that heavy sea ships reached the embankments of the city are FALSE!
        Studies show that after the defeat in the war, Peter was presented with an ultimatum to completely tear down St. Petersburg and that the most interesting thing was that by 1728 practically NO ONE lived in the city, it was a fact. A fact still recognized by academic science THE CITY IS BUILT ON THE BONES OF THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE. Peter imposed on the Russian people a total drunkenness and tobacco smoking. Therefore, this figure was popularly called ANTICHRIST.
        YOUR SRALIN FUCK AT LEAST SOLD OUT ON THE FRONT SOLDIERS TO CHOOSE?

        you are a DOG for such words ... stuck your dirty tongue somewhere in the ass away.
        Forgot how, under Alexander, 3 transibs were built in 1 year?

        You would have a history connoisseur at least take a look at something. The construction of the Trassib was begun in 1891 by Mias-Chelyabinsk and completed only in 1916 with the construction of a bridge across the Amur.

        BLESSED! LEARN HISTORY!

        historians like you had to kill their slingshots as a child fool angry
  9. -1
    21 February 2013 13: 41
    Yeah, write to the heirs, and even better, some Germans ask for reign ....... lovers of Russia that we lost. Few 300 years of oppression?
    1. -4
      21 February 2013 16: 06
      A tebbe GULAG and 37 years old is not enough ?!
  10. aleksandr46
    +2
    21 February 2013 15: 28
    I don’t know why the 400th anniversary of the Romanov dynasty is celebrated - it ended with the death of Peter the 1st, and with a stretch - Elizaveta Petrovna!
    Whoever is not surprised, let him call from the mentioned times at least one Russian (by nationality, not to mention the Romanov’s heirs) tsar or tsarina !!!
  11. +2
    21 February 2013 18: 00
    A tebbe GULAG and 37 years old is not enough ?!
    In a slightly updated form, it is very lacking !!!
  12. Horde
    -2
    21 February 2013 20: 46
    was what historians say about those times or not, the devil knows. Academic science wrote a lot of nonsense for 400 years. The time itself after the tragic death of Tsar Boris Godunov in 1601 and before the election of the Zemsky Sobor 1613 was called TROUBLE TIME, t .e. the time of the TOTAL LIE in the annals, and it was because this period of active struggle for power of various groups of nobility of Russian and NERusskaya, the change of dynasties from the Rurikovich to the Godunovs, then Shuisky, then Romanov marked a clump of INCORPOSITIES in history. Academic science is all inconsistent and dark stories, for example, the times of Ivan the Fourth explain very simply Ivan the formidable imperious, strong politician of that time at times was simply PSYCH - SCHISOPHRENIC.
    How else to explain the numerous renunciations and subsequent oaths? , how is it possible at a time when in Russia reigned undivided DOMOSTROY such unbridled behavior with women? What are some manic ideas about the Imperial rank in relation to themselves, and what is more, all European sovereigns indulged him in that? The picture is incredible!
    The time of Godunov's reign is even stranger. The Russians took it and with weeping and pleading for a long time begged Godunov to ascend the throne, although they themselves all write that he was an ignorant, vile family, some kind of landowner from the provinces. Damn what! Well, then it’s just some kind of bacchanalia, then one False Dmitry, then the second, then the people recognized him, then another time did not recognize him. So he went to the Poles, and the Polish king just gave some kind of an army, and money, and a daughter in addition. So the king closed his eyes and did not see anything, but historians hundreds of years later, of course, authoritatively declare that the heir of Rurik Dmitry was, of course, False Dmitry. If anyone wants to put in some order all these times, I advise you to read Fomenko and Nosovsky "The Fictional Tsar and the Fake Tsar" FIN, there is at least a LOGIC in the consecration of those times.
  13. +1
    21 February 2013 23: 03
    Friends, the throne in Russia is not vacant, the throne is abolished. Of course, you can restore it, somewhere to get an heir, but does this make sense? If the tsar has real power, then it is somehow possible to choose a particular person for this "life-long position" of his heirs ..... And if the tsar is a decorative figure, then it makes no sense at all.
  14. +2
    22 February 2013 05: 09
    The pope, the patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church, attached his son to the tsar, as it still smells a bit nepotism and corruption ...

    Rurikovich is no match, just see ...
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      -1
      22 February 2013 12: 14
      n-dya, just to see the "expert" is not tired of carrying outright nonsense?
  15. 0
    22 February 2013 10: 35
    Just recently there was only an article ... Good ... About the fact that we need to be proud of our history and not divide it into "white", "red", "royal", "pagan" and so on ... But things are still there ... Let's shit for the joy of our enemies. With which I congratulate you all.
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      -3
      22 February 2013 12: 23
      and what do you want? fans of Nosov \ fomenoks and other dolboslavs live in a fantasy world, fans of Judo-Marxism believe that history generally began in 1917, and they do not notice the outright genocide of the Russian People by the Bolsheviks, most of them people of the same nationality, Thank God, Joseph Vissarionovich cut them, sorry not all. Moreover, the prosperities and troubles of Russia, which were also under the monarchy, are bulged out and exaggerated at times, so that crimes against the People would not seem so scary, I wondered an article about cannibalism in the Volga region, so the administration most likely will not publish , People just want to live in myths, both as those who romanticize the monarchy, as well as those who romanticize the soviets, although by comparison with the soviets the monarchy is actually a lamb of God.
      moreover, pay attention, personally, for example, I don’t blame the Soviet period in Russia, but only knock the romance down, to those who have become Ivan who does not remember kinship, and even our "beloved" supporters of advice (for often both Fomenkovites and Rodnovers in one person) carry such a blizzard that take out all the saints. Forgetting in their ideological frenzy that it is impossible to achieve "heaven" on earth, and it is during the period of the struggle for "heaven" that people go to hell, and absolutely real
  16. Yoshkin Kot
    -1
    22 February 2013 12: 54
    and it is during the period of the struggle for "paradise" that people go to hell, and it is absolutely real

    I will add, moreover, that the Marxist "paradise" promised by the Bolsheviks, that the liberal "paradise" promised by their great-grandchildren by the liberals

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