Can balloons with a network of cables become an effective weapon against UAVs?

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Can balloons with a network of cables become an effective weapon against UAVs?

The emergence of a wide range of UAVs in the armed forces of different countries has forever changed the tactics of combat operations. Yes, small and cheap drones-kamikazes today are capable of effectively burning Tanks and other armored vehicles on the battlefield.

At the same time, they cause even more problems Drones long-range missiles, which today are used instead of missiles to strike targets deep in the rear.



It is worth noting that recently, literally every day, there have been reports from the Russian Ministry of Defense about the destruction of Ukrainian kamikaze drones in the skies over different regions of our country.

In turn, despite the professional work of our air defense forces, the aforementioned drones are a serious problem. Firstly, they often move at extremely low altitudes, which, along with a composite body, makes them difficult to detect by radar radars. Secondly, modern Ukrainian drones fly over a distance of over 1000 km, which requires a huge number of air defense systems to cover such a territory.

Against the background of the above, many military experts today are talking about alternative methods of combating UAVs. In particular, it is often proposed to take advantage of the British experience in the Second World War, when, to protect London from the German bomber aviation used balloons. But will this work for us?

The essence of this know-how was that a mesh of metal cables was stretched between balloons located at a relatively short distance from each other, into which Luftwaffe aircraft were supposed to fall.

It is worth noting that at first glance, such a protection system may indeed seem effective. However, the statistics of its use in the USSR during the Great Patriotic War indicate the opposite.

Thus, balloons with cables caused the crash of only 0,5% of all destroyed German aircraft. At the same time, the indicator with the prototype of modern cruise missiles - V-2 - looks a little better and reaches 6%.

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  1. +1
    24 June 2024 11: 20
    Drones, unlike airplanes, often fly very low to the ground. How should these networks hang? belay
    1. +1
      24 June 2024 11: 22
      Drones, unlike airplanes, often fly very low to the ground.
      Trees and structures will not allow you to fly very low
      1. 0
        24 June 2024 11: 30
        But they don’t need all the time, they’ll dive under the net and that’s it.
        1. +2
          24 June 2024 11: 46
          But they don’t need all the time, they’ll dive under the net and that’s it.


          The drone is not directly controlled and does not maneuver; it flies to the target along a given course and at a given altitude.
      2. +1
        24 June 2024 11: 46
        Everything was invented before us
        1. 0
          14 July 2024 15: 33
          But are these protective barriers? As if from each ship they launched one with an observer. For reconnaissance and warning.
    2. -1
      24 June 2024 14: 39
      For example, low-flying drones with internal combustion engines can be detected by passive acoustic systems.
      And you can fight with the help of existing (though for other purposes) sound guns. You may have to change the frequency of the radiation... Which will destroy the electronic gyroscope. The UAV will lose its balance and fall down.
    3. 0
      30 June 2024 00: 29
      Right down to the ground wink
      Scouts won't get through either wink
  2. 0
    24 June 2024 11: 32
    In particular, it is often proposed to take advantage of the British experience in World War II, when balloons were used to protect London from German bomber aircraft. But is this right for us?

    hahaha
    so they will fly around this whole.....
    the problem is that they constantly have AWACS aircraft or drones in the air scanning the airspace, we just took off - and there is already an air raid alert...
    and how will this help in such a situation?
    1. +1
      24 June 2024 11: 48
      I think it will be very helpful to protect any important objects around the perimeter.

      If I had the money, I would pay for this myself, build it and raise it above the Ryazan oil refinery.
      1. 0
        24 June 2024 11: 54
        Balloons with radar would help us more, but the drones themselves are low-speed, you can shoot them down with helicopters
    2. +3
      24 June 2024 12: 01
      Well, if the cable is nylon and the airship is made from the skin of young dermantine, radars won’t be of much help here.. what
  3. +2
    24 June 2024 11: 33
    At the same time, the indicator with the prototype of modern cruise missiles - V-2

    BUT 2ka is ballistics.
    Maybe a V-1? She actually had wings.
  4. +3
    24 June 2024 11: 35
    Thus, balloons with cables caused the crash of only 0,5% of all destroyed German aircraft.

    These are wrecks. Apparently the woodpeckers are completely blind.
    But because of the balloons, they had to work from great heights.
    Or first destroy the balloons (under air defense fire).
    The effectiveness of the balloon is not only in destruction but also...
    It's also a fence/scarecrow.
  5. -1
    24 June 2024 11: 39
    Well, there is no doubt that they will interfere with civil aviation, especially after the hurricane winds that have become more frequent lately, everyone will need to change trains, but it just says that this measure is useless if there are thousands of satellites above us in near-Earth orbit, which have the ability to show the entire territory of our country in ultra-high resolution, which even our satellites cannot do. Therefore, they will pave the path to the target for their UAVs absolutely precisely, as practice has already shown
    1. -1
      14 July 2024 15: 37
      Musk's satellites do not have super resolution. You can’t even fit “permission” into 300 kg of weight. The optics are bulky, heavy and expensive. Not like electronics.
  6. 0
    24 June 2024 11: 45
    It is worth noting that at first glance, such a protection system may indeed seem effective. However, the statistics of its use in the USSR during the Great Patriotic War indicate the opposite.

    Thus, balloons with cables caused the crash of only 0,5% of all destroyed German aircraft. At the same time, the indicator with the prototype of modern cruise missiles - V-2 - looks a little better and reaches 6%.


    The essence of the balloons of that time was not so much the shooting down of planes as an obstacle due to which enemy attack aircraft could not accurately throw bombs, and their level even at that time made it possible to hit a tank on the move!!!

    And against small and fragile UAVs, such nets stretched between the cables of balloons will become an insurmountable obstacle. Therefore, we must not justify inaction, but try all options and test them in practice.

    Shooting from large-caliber machine guns and cannons in city limits is not always safe, but raising balloons with a net stretched between them around the perimeter of some main workshop or building of an oil refinery or substation is worth at least trying.

    In the Northern Military District, nets stretched in front of the guns, around the vehicles in the parking lot and along the route of movement along the rear roads give a positive result, and cheaply and cheerfully.
    1. +2
      24 June 2024 12: 15
      Local air defense does not require balloons: an iron frame with a stretched mesh over vulnerable objects at a distance of 5 meters from the object is sufficient.
  7. +1
    24 June 2024 11: 46
    In particular, it is often proposed to take advantage of the British experience in World War II, when to protect London from the German bomber force
    fool fool Even if used only to protect Moscow, “Yes, but what will it cost?” (how many CMs to hang, and we have problems throughout the Russian Federation)
    The essence of this know-how was that between those located at a relatively short distance from each other with balloons a mesh of metal cables was stretched into which the Luftwaffe planes were supposed to fall.
    Drones can blow up the balloons and birds will fly into the gap, and the entire network will collapse. request
  8. -1
    24 June 2024 11: 49
    Convert the Yak 152 to install weapons, and cadets of 4-5 courses for combat practice. 23mm with shrapnel. And practice, preparation and safety in one bottle.
    1. -1
      24 June 2024 16: 44
      Convert the Yak 152 to install weapons, and cadets of 4-5 courses for combat practice. 23mm with shrapnel. And practice, preparation and safety in one bottle.

      Yeah, and all this movement will take place over residential areas of cities. Great plan
      1. +1
        25 June 2024 09: 18
        With proper detection of radar ACOUSTIC sensors as in 404 and thermal imaging equipment, it will be normal if ammunition is used with plastic buckshot, then safety can be achieved more or less - I didn’t say I didn’t write over cities
    2. 0
      30 June 2024 00: 37
      The airfield with cadets and Yaks must be located close to the protected facility. It is necessary to organize round-the-clock patrolling in the air, and it won’t hurt to bring up the radar.
      Will we find as many cadets, planes, airfields and service personnel?
  9. 0
    24 June 2024 12: 13
    Of course not. It's too easy to build network protection into a UAV program. Investments will be deadened.
    Balloons can only be effective as carriers of CCTV cameras, radars and UAV fighters. Well, God himself ordered Wi-Fi modems to be hung on them.
  10. +3
    24 June 2024 12: 15
    Balloons are difficult to maintain and critically depend on weather conditions. To destroy low-flying and low-speed targets, an aircraft carrier of weapons with a range of tens of kilometers, which can patrol for tens of hours, is apparently needed.
  11. 0
    24 June 2024 12: 33
    ineffective, very labor-intensive, and very dangerous, because we don’t have enough helium for a large number of balloons, so hello hydrogen...
    1. +1
      30 June 2024 00: 46
      It will be possible to immediately shoot down with hydrogen aetostats. In general, with such hydrogen-powered balloons, you can do without networks smile Just the fuss with hydrogen itself am . Its transportation, storage, refueling are all extremely fun activities. The rocket scientists won't let you lie lol
  12. +2
    25 June 2024 14: 06
    0,5 percent because the planes had to fly over areas with balloons and came under the influence of other air defense systems.
    Do you think that the pilots were idiots and flew straight into the net?
    The balloons have done their job!
  13. 0
    25 June 2024 14: 41
    Again, it all depends on the geometry of the object. If this is the shell of an industrial building with a standard height of 20 meters, this is one thing. Install the rods around the perimeter, pull and secure the nets on the sides and on top. Network d.b. made of non-flammable material, reinforced with fiberglass. You will be happy. If this is an oil refinery, then the height of the columns and tanks is higher, you may need some kind of frame supported on the structure of the facility itself, stretching the cable like in a tent in 4 directions, then using the same principle, a network from the top and along trapezoids. For large factory areas, probably the same bars around the perimeter with downward fastenings and networks around the perimeter, but in this case there will be no protection from the top, although it could be quite possible. done if desired.