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Kosovo: the sixth year of "independence"

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A few days ago, on February 17, a small anniversary was celebrated in Kosovo: the fifth anniversary of “independence”. In honor of this event, the regional legislature arranged a solemn meeting, followed by a concert. The head of Kosovo, Atifethe Yahyaga saidthat the republic is “a state of great opportunities”, and the independence of the region is a “political reality”. Yahyaga recalled that Kosovo is seeking to become "part of a united Europe." However, in the official report of the Belgrade Chancellery on Kosovo and Metohija, the answer was: “Serbia will never recognize the so-called independent Kosovo”.


But Kosovo recognized Egypt - the new “democratic” growth on the world map.

Recognition of Kosovo was announced on the “jubilee” Sunday in Pristina after the meeting of the Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci and the Assistant to the President of Egypt Pakinam Hasan Khalil Sharkavi. Last said: “Egypt supports Kosovo’s accession to international organizations, such as the World Bank and the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development.”

Now Kosovo’s independence is recognized by the 101 state, including UN 99 members from 193 (51%), EU member 22 from 27, and 24 from NATO 28. Almost three years ago, in 2010, the International Court of Justice in The Hague ruled that the declaration of independence for Kosovo does not contradict international norms.

There are, of course, such "harmful" countries that Kosovo does not want to admit. Among these world renegades there are already mentioned Serbia, then Russia, China, India, Brazil, South Africa, Argentina, Mexico, Spain, Greece, Ukraine, Belarus. Most of the countries of Latin America, Africa and Southeast Asia also do not want to recognize the "independent" state.

The main guarantor of democracy, freedom and human rights on the planet - the White House - congratulated Kosovo on its anniversary. "Voice of America" reports this in solemn tones:

“... John Kerry congratulated the Republic of Kosovo on the fifth anniversary of independence, which is celebrated on February 17, and promised that the United States will continue to support the independence of this country.

“The United States continues to support the independent, sovereign and multi-ethnic Republic of Kosovo,” Kerry said in a statement. “I congratulate the leaders of Kosovo and welcome their efforts to create strong democratic institutions, expand economic opportunities, ensure the rule of law and deepen Kosovo’s integration into the European community.”


Thus, Mr. Kerry has learned the lessons of Hillary Clinton well and continues, in accordance with the long-standing American tradition, to pursue a genuinely democratic policy. Yes, and how not to conduct it, if Kosovo Albanians have already gathered in NATO. Well, why not? The European Union without NATO is like a porridge without salt.

Atifethe Yahyaga and says: Kosovo region has a clear goal - accession to the European Union and NATO. Such great aspirations must mean that the people of Kosovo, in the words of Ahyagi, "began a new chapter in stories, Head of Peace, Mutual Understanding, Cooperation and Mutual Respect. ”

What is this “mutual understanding” and what is this “people of Kosovo”?

Today edge inhabited on 90% Albanians. Most of the local Serbs live in the north with the national center in Kosovska Mitrovica, another part - in the enclaves, surrounded by settlements of local Albanians.

Serbian Ambassador to Russia Slavenko Terzic saysthat in Kosovo and Metohija ethnic Albanians destroy the ethnic Serbs and the cultural heritage of Christianity. In the very heart of Europe, Islamists thus implement the policy of the genocide of Christians and their discrimination based on nationality. All this can be called a complete failure of European values ​​and even European civilization.

Ethnic Albanians drive the Serbs from their homes. In the eyes of Europe, genocide and apartheid are taking place, the ambassador said. Radical political Islam penetrates Europe. He operates here everywhere: in Albania, Kosovo, Bosnia and Herzegovina. But Europe does not want to recognize the growing danger.

Serbia, reminds Yevgeny Novikov ("Expert"), like all Eastern European countries, seeks to join the EU. But one of the conditions for the launch of negotiations on EU membership (only for launching!) Is the normalization of Serbia’s relations with Kosovo. In fact, the EU is seeking from Serbia recognition of the sovereignty of the region.

There is nowhere to go any further: the European Parliament's foreign policy committee adopted a draft resolution on Serbia and Kosovo. It will be tabled in March 2013. The draft resolution says: the EU excludes the division of Kosovo into two parts - Albanian and Serbian.

Belgrade’s policy on Kosovo is weak. Serbian analysts point out that the Belgrade authorities have not developed alternatives to EU membership. “EU or death,” Slobodan Antonych, a Serbian political analyst, describes this policy.

Today Serbia can do little for Serbs living in Kosovo. The Serbian Ambassador to the Russian Federation says that his country only informs the UN and the EU about everything that is happening in the province. Belgrade fears NATO sanctions:

“All the Balkans are a political protectorate of NATO. In the 90s, we had a “hermetic embargo”, later there were bombings, we were destroyed militarily and economically. We were given ultimatums. The government is afraid of causing a new blow to Serbia, fearing harsh repression. But the people have the mood to "respond strongly." But it must be remembered that NATO is always around us: our neighbors are included in this block. Therefore, it is necessary to conduct a cautious policy. "


As for Kosovo, there, on the contrary, military structures are being strengthened. As stated recently by the Kosovo Security Minister, field commander Agim Ceku, from June 15 his troops will be transformed into the “Kosovo army”. According to him, today his divisions are fully prepared for the implementation of new goals and objectives.

The EU continues to put pressure on Belgrade. According to a report from Brussels ITAR-TASSOn February 19, the meeting of the President of the European Council Herman Van Rompuy with the Prime Minister of the self-proclaimed Republic of Kosovo Hashim Thaci took place.

After a conversation with Thaci, Van Rompuy told reporters that Serbia and Kosovo’s accession to the EU depended on the concrete results of the dialogue between Belgrade and Pristina: “Specific results are crucial.” He noted that “Kosovo has a European perspective,” but Pristina must first fulfill the short-term goals set by the European Commission. First of all it concerns the observance of the rights of ethnic minorities, the fight against corruption and organized crime.

In Brussels, Thaci was extremely active: he met not only with Rompuy one day, but also with the European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso, from whom he went to a bilateral meeting with Serbian Prime Minister Ivica Dacic with the mediation of EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Katherine Ashton

Analyst Olga Churakova ("Century") rightly believes that the West cuts off Belgrade all the way back. The exclusion by the European Union of the possibility of dividing Kosovo is precisely what it means. After all, the idea of ​​“cutting off” the northern part of the Serbs inhabited by the Serbs and leaving it in Serbia in this way is considered rational by many. Such a geopolitical combination would relieve the existing inter-ethnic tensions in Kosovo and relieve all the anxieties of the Serbian population. Kosovo Albanians would get rid of the Serb communities. But the trouble is that the true owners and managers of Pristina meet in Washington and Brussels - and there the ideas of the division of the region are extremely unpopular.

What will Belgrade do in this situation? What about Belgrade?

The desire for the European Union and the desire to set as soon as possible the date for the commencement of negotiations on joining the “friendly family of European nations,” writes O. Churakova, and dictates Belgrade a line of conduct. And it does not matter which party and person comes to power. Both the democrats Boris Tadic, the socialists Ivica Dacic, and the progressists Tomislav Nikolic want one thing - the same things that society wants. Eurointegration!

“It is regrettable that public opinion in Serbia forms foreign capital,” says Slobodan Antonych. “And the fact that we are so corrupt that we don’t even notice it.”


He hints at the fact that the owners of the main media in Serbia are large Western media companies, and the most influential NGOs are financed from foreign funds.

In the meantime, there is an information hype in Kosovo, not to mention the drug trade, crimes on the ground of illegal transplantation of human organs are flourishing. So much so that the other day Russian law enforcement agencies opened a criminal case on the fact of relevant criminal activity in Kosovo. “The Russian Federation attaches great importance to a full and comprehensive investigation into the crimes committed in Kosovo for the unlawful seizure and transplantation of donor organs. Russian law enforcement agencies have opened an appropriate criminal case, work is underway, ”- it is said in a message on the website of the Russian Foreign Ministry.

Moreover, top officials of Kosovo, including Prime Minister Hashim Thaci, are suspected of this very trade in human organs. In another case of “black transplantology”, the former Minister of Health of Kosovo, Ilir Retsay, appears as one of the main defendants.

Back in February, 2011, the Swiss senator and former prosecutor Dick Marty, presented to PACE a report on “black transplantology” in the province. He said that Hashim Tachi was one of the bosses of the largest Kosovo criminal group that participated in mass abductions and killings of people, underground trafficking in human organs, and at the same time controlling drug trafficking.

And nothing has changed. For Mr. Thaci, the appearance of that report had no effect. International law enforcement agencies are in no hurry to prove his involvement in these terrible crimes.

Thus, the one who is called the boss of the “largest Kosovo criminal group”, and the prime minister in combination, successfully hung out in Egypt, having obtained from the Muslim Brotherhood recognition of the region as an independent state. The same Thaci recently met with European Council President Van Rompuy, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso, and then, hand in hand with Baroness Ashton, went to a bilateral meeting with Serbian Prime Minister Ivica Dacic. This whole crime series must be very much enjoyed by Europe and the USA, which adores playing the roles of geopolitical managers.

Observed Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
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  1. Denis
    Denis 21 February 2013 08: 20
    +10
    Today's Kosovo is a shame on Europe.
    1. avt
      avt 21 February 2013 10: 17
      +3
      Quote: Denis
      Today's Kosovo is a shame on Europe.

      The abscess. Slurp out of there now in Europe.
    2. vadimus
      vadimus 21 February 2013 10: 24
      +4
      Europe spits in its own well. But you have to drink from there ... It is unthinkable stupidity to make this gangster enclave ...
    3. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 21 February 2013 10: 34
      +7
      rather, a shame on the policy of the Yeltsin-drunk, under Putin, such arbitrariness would not have been allowed ... crucified Yugoslavia ... what else to say ...
      1. Middle-brother
        Middle-brother 21 February 2013 17: 59
        +1
        Quote: sasha 19871987
        , under Putin, such arbitrariness would not be allowed

        definitely. Actual war in Dagestan, proser of Libya and Syria, etc. But if Putin had ruled during the Yugoslav war, then yes, there would have been no arbitrariness, og.
    4. Octavian avgust
      Octavian avgust 21 February 2013 11: 45
      +8
      No, this is not a shame - these are the geopolitical interests of the Western elite.
      It's a shame for Serbia, which has hopes to stick to the EU, which it did and bombed in the late 90s. We will return everything and take more! soldier
    5. Andrey L
      Andrey L 21 February 2013 11: 59
      +2
      "Today's Kosovo is a shame for Europe"
      .... and the end of Europe. +
      1. Beck
        Beck 21 February 2013 12: 24
        +6
        Kosovo is not the geopolitical interest of the Western elite and not the end of Europe. This is an unfair solution to a controversial issue.

        Kosovo is the administrative region of the former Yugoslavia. And it was inscribed, at one time, not on the ethnic resettlement of Serbs and Kosovars, the essence of the Albanians, but in the interests of administrative economic management.

        I think it would be fairest, after the collapse of Yugoslavia, to divide the territory of the region by ethnic population. Roughly, the north of Kosovo where Serbs live, give to Serbia, the south where Kosovars live Kosovo. Yes, and generally attach south Kosovo to Albania, because Albanians live here and there, only in Kosovo and even recently they began to be called Kosovars. Sooner or later, all the same, the Albanian Kosovo will unite with Albania.

        Maybe Serbia needs to build its own policy on this. Promote the unification of the south of Kosovo with Albania into one state, but at the same time regain the north of Kosovo with the city of Pristina. There seems to be no other way, much less a force one.
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 21 February 2013 15: 03
          +3
          Quote: Beck
          Kosovo is not the geopolitical interest of the Western elite and not the end of Europe. This is an unfair solution to a controversial issue.


          Welcome hi quite controversial statement.
          That is, Europeans claim that Kosovo Albanians have the right to self-determination, while Abkhazians and Ossetians do not. Where is the logic?
          ... "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" ... wassat


          Quote: Beck
          Kosovo is the administrative region of the former Yugoslavia.


          Not properly:
          Kosovo is only the eastern part of Kosovo and Metohija, while the western part is called Metohija, which in Greek means “church estate”. This name was first mentioned in the XNUMXth century as a territory inhabited by Serbs under the rule of Byzantium.


          Quote: Beck
          I think it would be fairest, after the collapse of Yugoslavia, to divide the territory of the region by ethnic population. Roughly, the north of Kosovo where Serbs live, give to Serbia, the south where Kosovars live Kosovo.


          What to do with the Kosovo field? How to share it?
          All such sections end in wars.


          Quote: Beck
          There seems to be no other way, much less a force one.


          In my opinion, humanity as a civilization is too underdeveloped to "intelligently" resolve such issues - the situation with Kosovo will turn into a war and may be even during our lifetime.
          1. Beck
            Beck 21 February 2013 16: 05
            +2
            Quote: Karlsonn
            Greetings, a controversial statement


            Hi Hi! And where did you disappear? It’s interesting not to fight with everyone.

            Quote: Karlsonn
            That is, Europeans claim that Kosovo Albanians have the right to self-determination, while Abkhazians and Ossetians do not


            So I say controversial. This representative is Finnish or something, who introduced his plan, did not penetrate into reality or historically. Slashed over a living that would not heal. And Georgia is not right. When she left the USSR, she proclaimed the principles and slogans the right to which now does not recognize Abkhazians and Ossetians. After all, they lived on their land from time immemorial, and did not come 50 years ago from somewhere.

            Quote: Karlsonn
            Kosovo is just the eastern part of Kosovo and Metohija,


            Well, I spoke in general terms so as not to download comments.

            Quote: Karlsonn
            What to do with the Kosovo field? How to share it?


            Actually, this question is historically confused. Either the Serbs met the Turks on their land, or they advanced towards them. I dont know. But of course the question is.

            Quote: Karlsonn
            In my opinion, humanity as a civilization is too underdeveloped to "smartly" resolve such issues - the situation with Kosovo will result in a war and may be even during our lifetime


            Frankly speaking. The main Russian "drunkard" was smart enough not to do anything stupid in the 90s. Milosevic didn't have enough. If Yeltsin had acted like Milosevic, the fire in Eastern Europe, the Caucasus, and Central Asia would have raged in such a way that Yugoslavia would have seemed like a spark on a clear day. There would be so many dead that the churchyards would increase by a factor of 100 everywhere. Besides, nuclear weapons were not removed from Ukraine and Kazakhstan at that time. Even if Kazakhstan could not start it, but Ukraine could if it stepped on its throat at that moment.

            All Kosovo is now not return. You won’t succeed with force, you won’t get a throat pressure. Only negotiations. And my option. Recognize Albania and the south of Kosovo as one state, and return the north with Pristina to Serbia.

            As always, at first they fight, then they seek compromises. And they fight because they don’t want compromises. They want everything at once. Before the war in Kosovo, it was possible to agree. Just like in Nagorno-Karabakh. Here from here to you, and to us. And now, in the future, there will still be another war. Azerbaijan will never accept the loss of everything. And there historically the issue is confused.
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 21 February 2013 17: 15
              0
              Quote: Beck
              Actually, this question is historically confused. Either the Serbs met the Turks on their land, or they advanced towards them. I dont know. But of course the question is.


              On Kosovo Pole, troops from the northwestern regions of the Transdanubian Peninsula have repeatedly clashed with troops from its southeastern regions:
              -1073 - Serbs defeated the Greeks and their allies Bulgarians;
              -1170 - Nemania defended its power from the brothers and Greeks;
              -1389 - the Serbian kingdom fell;
              -1403 - Stefan Lazarevich defeated the Sultan Musa;
              -1448 - the defeat of Guniad by the Turks;
              -1689 - the Austrian commander Piccolomini was defeated by the Turks;
              -1831 - Sultan Mahmud defeated the Bosnians.
              Of all these battles, the defeat of the Serbs by the Turks on June 15 (St. Witt's Day, in Serbian “species of Dan”) of 1389 was of the greatest importance. Troops met near Laba, which flows into Sitnitsa. At the head of the Turks was Murad, with two sons, at the head of the Serbs was Prince Lazar, with father-in-law Yug-Bogdan and two sons-in-law, Milos Obilic and Vuk Brankovich. The forces of the Turks were three times more numerous, but the Serbs did not despair. The battle began at 6 a.m. and was very bloody. The Serbian forces were already prevailing when one of their detachments, led by Vuk Brankovic - it is not known whether desperate for success or treason - retreated beyond the Sitnitsa river, and Bosnians fled after him. Upset regiments of the Serbs were broken. The South Bogdan with 9 sons perished, Milosh fell, and Prince Lazarus, wounded, was taken prisoner and executed; but Murad himself found death in this battle, according to legend - from the hands of Milos Obilic. Since this battle, the Serbs have become tributaries of the Turks. Not a single event of old Serbian history left such a deep trace in the national memory as the battle of Kosovo. It is recorded in the annals, whole rhapsodies are compiled about it.

              I apologize that from "wiki" repeat - Too lazy to look somewhere further.
              1. Beck
                Beck 21 February 2013 21: 53
                +2
                Quote: Karlsonn
                I apologize that from the "wiki" - too lazy to look somewhere further.


                Thank you for clarifying the information. And Vicki is scary only to the poorly educated. People with a broad outlook will immediately see in any information from Wiki that does not correspond to logic, academic science, history, and will not give exactly this specific information in their comments. And Vicki is all useful, and then we live in the age of computer science. Either flipping through the volumes of the encyclopedia, toli to go to the library when you can go to the Wiki and choose the one that is worth it and throw away the awkward.
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 22 February 2013 00: 45
                  +2
                  wiki - the plague without literacy!
            2. Geokingxnumx
              Geokingxnumx 21 February 2013 19: 08
              0
              Quote: Beck
              And Georgia is not right. When she left the USSR, she proclaimed the principles and slogans the right to which now does not recognize Abkhazians and Ossetians. After all, they lived on their land from time immemorial, and did not come 50 years ago from somewhere.

              and Georgia has not lived there for centuries? Abkhazians are Georgians, as well as Megrelets Ajarets Katrrel Svans Georgians!
              Russia itself recognized these regions as Georgian in the 90's, well, in the 1918 Year too.
              and Russia is wrong and Europe, too!
              for interest, Georgia will not recognize Kosovo)
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 21 February 2013 19: 22
                +1
                Quote: GEOKING95
                Abkhazians are Georgians, as well as Megrelets Ajarets Katrrel Svans Georgians!


                Tell it to Abkhazians bully


                Quote: GEOKING95
                Russia itself recognized these regions as Georgian in the 90's, well, in the 1918 Year too.


                and what did the Georgians do in the 1918 and 90's? Remind us wink


                Quote: GEOKING95
                for interest, Georgia will not recognize Kosovo)


                I wonder why? wassat
                1. Geokingxnumx
                  Geokingxnumx 21 February 2013 23: 45
                  0
                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  Tell it to Abkhazians

                  I can say that in Adzharia more real Abkhazians live than in Abkhazia

                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  and what did the Georgians do in the 1918 and 90's? Remind us

                  remind! I will remind you of the heroism of Yeltsin in this conflict)))
                  1. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn 22 February 2013 00: 56
                    +1
                    Quote: GEOKING95
                    I can say that in Adzharia more real Abkhazians live than in Abkhazia


                    don't la la my father, an officer of the USSR Armed Forces personally stood when the Georgians rushed to kill those who disagree. A number of Georgians must be judged as war criminals!


                    Quote: GEOKING95
                    and what did the Georgians do in the 1918 and 90's? Remind us
                    remind! I will remind you of the heroism of Yeltsin in this conflict)))


                    Georgians will always be soiled, with blood for the 1918 year - because of this, personally I am on the side of the Abkhazians and Ossetians, and if they need help, I will be there angry , the only time I went to the wedding was a Georgian girl crying but the fact that Georgia has been doing the last twenty years is beyond good and evil to blow up monuments to Georgians who fought with the Germans as part of the Soviet army? belay

                    Georgians have only been disgraced for the last time: Mishiko, 08.08., support for mercenaries and militants, ----------- when you, Georgians, Muslim brothers start to eat you, I personally will very much think whether to help or not.
                    1. Geokingxnumx
                      Geokingxnumx 22 February 2013 09: 51
                      +1
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      don't la la my father, an officer of the USSR Armed Forces personally stood when the Georgians rushed to kill those who disagree. A number of Georgians must be judged as war criminals!

                      oh no problem, and the Abkhazian Chechen and Armenian soldiers who fought in Abkhazia also need to be tried for a crime
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      Georgians will always be soiled, with blood for the 1918 year — because of this, I personally am on the side of the Abkhazians and Ossetians, and if they need help, I will be there, the only time I approached the wedding was a Georgian girl, but what Georgia has been doing the last twenty years - beyond the bounds of good and evil, to blow up monuments to Georgians who fought with the Germans, as part of the Soviet army?

                      for which 1918 year) can you teach me what happened in the 1918 year?
              2. Beck
                Beck 21 February 2013 21: 58
                +1
                Quote: GEOKING95
                for interest, Georgia will not recognize Kosovo


                This is a political moment. If Georgia recognizes Kosovo, then it will have to recognize Abkhazia with South Ossetia. There is no difference. And I did not say that the Georgians did not live there. Of course, they lived side by side with the Abkhazians and Ossetians. And Adjaras, Svans, in my opinion, are like tribes of the Georgian people, but not Ossetians.
                1. Geokingxnumx
                  Geokingxnumx 21 February 2013 23: 49
                  0
                  Quote: Beck
                  This is a political moment.

                  maybe life
                  Quote: Beck
                  If Georgia recognizes Kosovo, then it will have to recognize Abkhazia with South Ossetia.

                  can say so in Russia)
                  Quote: Beck
                  that Georgians didn’t live there. Of course, we lived side by side with the Abkhazians and Ossetians

                  Ossetians are another people who lived in the territory of North Ossetia
                  and Abkhazi is Georgians, not whoever drove them out of the lands they lived for) and we were kicked out by 250 000 people of sense from Abkhazia, I’m not talking about crimes against civilians on both sides (but the Basayev and Baghramyansky battalion that they didn’t forgive)
                  1. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn 22 February 2013 01: 07
                    0
                    Quote: GEOKING95
                    can say so in Russia)


                    and Abkhazia and Ossetia have the right to self-determination, they want to live with us, and not with Georgia.


                    Quote: GEOKING95
                    and Abkhazi is Georgians, not whoever drove them out of the lands they lived for) and we were kicked out by 250 000 people of sense from Abkhazia, I’m not talking about crimes against civilians on both sides (but the Basayev and Baghramyansky battalion that they didn’t forgive)


                    Do not lie! we Russians saved the Georgian people from disappearance from the face of the earth! You are Georgians, you were more often either parasites or traitors!

                    Quote: GEOKING95
                    and Abkhazia is the Georgians, not who did not drive them from those lands which they lived)


                    I can tell you how Georgians slaughtered Abkhazians and Ossetians, committed war crimes, bombed buildings on the roofs of which a red cross was painted, how the Georgian military buried rebellious people alive ... and much more bully I can provide video and textual evidence of Georgian fascism.
                    1. Geokingxnumx
                      Geokingxnumx 22 February 2013 09: 56
                      +1
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      and Abkhazia and Ossetia have the right to self-determination, they want to live with us, and not with Georgia.

                      yes, are you right when everyone who lives there will return then there will be elections whether they want to in Georgia or not?
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      Do not lie! we Russians saved the Georgian people from disappearance from the face of the earth! You are Georgians, you were more often either parasites or traitors!

                      So I'm a liar? you don’t know what happened in Abkhazia who gave arms to Abkhazians to Chechens (Caucasians) who justified Basayev and the Bagramian battalion!
                      ok) learn the story! yes they saved Georgia, you are right, but this salvation was long!
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      I can tell you how Georgians slaughtered Abkhazians and Ossetians, committed war crimes, bombed buildings on the roofs of which a red cross was painted, how the Georgian military buried the rebels alive ... and much more I can provide video and textual evidence of Georgian fascism.

                      come on! No problem, 90's Godokh Mkhedrion were rascals! a crime was committed in Abkhazia but their crime cannot be compared with the Bagramyan and Basayev battalions) oh yes, we call Mkhedrionov traitors! I can say that you don’t know what happened in Georgia for 20 years!

                      you don’t know, but in the Abkhaz warrior about 30 000 people died!
                  2. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 22 February 2013 01: 09
                    0
                    I warn everyone who will meet us with weapons in their hands - be it Armenian, Russian, Abkhazian - we will not take prisoners ... I want to give personal advice to Mr. Ardzinba. May he not do such a thing that the Abkhaz nation remains without descendants


                    Whose words?
                  3. Misantrop
                    Misantrop 22 February 2013 01: 21
                    0
                    Quote: GEOKING95
                    and Abkhazi is the Georgians, not who did not drive them from those lands which they lived

                    Yes, they were not driven, they just started to cut. Forgot the landing of Mkhedrioni in Pitsunda, sclerotic?
                    1. Geokingxnumx
                      Geokingxnumx 22 February 2013 10: 00
                      +1
                      Quote: Misantrop
                      Yes, they were not driven, they just started to cut. Forgot the landing of Mkhedrioni in Pitsunda, sclerotic?

                      no, I didn’t forget! Am I justifying the mkhedrionts? No!
                      and you yes! you justify the acts of Basayev and the Armenian battalion!
                      1. Misantrop
                        Misantrop 22 February 2013 11: 53
                        0
                        Quote: GEOKING95
                        no, I didn’t forget! Am I justifying the mkhedriontsov?

                        And why then be surprised that at the end of the war a lot of people lost their homes? And the Basayev Brothers were destroyed precisely by Russia, not Georgia. That only the territory of the Ponky Gorge for the gangs of militants of Chechnya provided. You can say anything, only actions count
              3. Misantrop
                Misantrop 22 February 2013 01: 19
                0
                Quote: GEOKING95
                Abkhazians are Georgians

                Stop lying. Abkhazians and Georgians have nothing in common. Neither in language, nor in cuisine, nor in customs
                1. Geokingxnumx
                  Geokingxnumx 22 February 2013 10: 03
                  +1
                  Quote: Misantrop
                  Stop lying. Abkhazians and Georgians have nothing in common. Neither in language, nor in cuisine, nor in customs

                  )) yes you))) you may not know but Georgia is a reunion of several tribes for several 1000 years))
                  the Chechens are also interested in a certain commonality with the Russians, but are they in Russia right?
                  1. Misantrop
                    Misantrop 22 February 2013 11: 57
                    0
                    Quote: GEOKING95
                    you may not know but Georgia is a reunion of several tribes for several thousand years

                    And during these several thousand years of this "unity" neither the language nor the cuisine has become even slightly similar? Do not make me laugh. My brother served there in the 345th ODPP for five years, so I saw enough of both with my own eyes. Tell tales about unity for children, they are gullible
        2. Galinanp
          Galinanp 21 February 2013 18: 21
          +5
          Beck (2) KZ Today, 12:24
          Nothing of the kind, with all desire, will be. After the occupation of Kosovo by NATO, the initial plan of the West has changed. Control over the situation was seized by the US military and the CIA. Kosovo was converted into a trans-shipment base for drug trafficking in Europe, a center for the export of human organs for transplantation, a hub for the illegal arms trade on the African continent, etc. In general, an ideal business project in the spirit of the scum of the Anglo-Saxons bringing huge income. So they are more likely to bury themselves in the earth alive, than will allow even the slightest change in the situation.
    6. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 21 February 2013 15: 06
      +1
      Quote: Denis
      Today's Kosovo


      Actually, the name "Kosovo" is not correct and came from the Albanian separatists who use the name "Kosovo" in relation to the entire territory of Kosovo and Metohija to exclude from the name of the region a hint of the region's Christian past.
  2. Rusich
    Rusich 21 February 2013 08: 36
    +3
    Kosovo is the tragedy of the current fraternal people of SERBIAN AS FOR US CAUCASUS !!!!!!!!!!!!! BECAUSE WE ARE ORTHODOX BROTHERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!


    and Europe is at hand (SHARE AND POWER)
  3. Xtra1l
    Xtra1l 21 February 2013 09: 05
    +4
    Kosovo is Serbia
  4. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 21 February 2013 09: 14
    +2
    Yeah, there are many who need to be shot. what
  5. Yoshkin Kot
    Yoshkin Kot 21 February 2013 09: 18
    +5
    every time Russia weakens, such things happen Kosovo
  6. Larus
    Larus 21 February 2013 09: 40
    0
    The Serbs themselves are losing ground with their desire to integrate into the EU, thinking that they will immediately begin to live like in chocolate.
    1. selbrat
      selbrat 21 February 2013 10: 41
      +6
      But it’s not the Serbs who donate, but their liberoids. We also didn’t surrender the USSR. They decided everything for us.
      1. Larus
        Larus 21 February 2013 12: 02
        0
        I don’t think that after aggression we would have handed over something, but they were bombed and they all the same look there
        1. selbrat
          selbrat 21 February 2013 18: 57
          +1
          Well, the people are simply looking at us more. And the leadership is to the west. Although, after the Yeltsinoids left them in the 90s, maybe everyone has become disappointed in us.
  7. Begemot
    Begemot 21 February 2013 09: 49
    +10
    And then you need to learn the lessons !! At the end of the 40's in Albania riots broke out and crowds of refugees rushed to the borders. Western neighbors, like good Christians sheltered on the border zones in refugee camps, but they quickly kicked everyone back, these Muslims were too disgusting: they didn’t agree to eat pork, just goof it, women give birth without a reason, and children should be registered by birth etc. etc. Tito alone was evil, he did not detain at the border, sent him into the depths of Kosovo, allocated housing, and land for construction. Albanians quickly got used to it, according to a good Muslim tradition, they began to give birth according to 6-8 of children who, due to a higher level of medicine than in their native Albania, survived all, but not 2 of 5. At the same time, there were 1-2 children in Serbian families.
    Over the 50 years, the composition of the population has changed dramatically. Ethnic Serbs became almost a minority, and the majority began to make claims on the territory. Given that in Europe there are not many places that have always belonged to only one nation, there are also historical justifications. And then you saw everything yourself. I happened to visit Yugoslavia in the 89 year, just a year before the start of the mess there. After the trip, I shared my impressions with one historian, after listening to me he said: there are all prerequisites for a civil war.
    And he was right. so we need to learn these lessons very, very, very well.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 21 February 2013 14: 45
      +4
      Quote: Begemot
      Albanians quickly got used to it, according to a good Muslim tradition, they began to give birth to 6-8 children, who, due to a higher level of medicine than in their native Albania, all survived, and not 2 out of 5. At the same time, there were 1-2 children in Serbian families.


      We do not forget that Yugoslavia is almost the only European country that showed fierce resistance to the Germans, the latter were forced to keep up to 35 divisions in this country throughout the war.
      A guerrilla war of such magnitude did not frailly result in enormous losses among the Yugoslavs, so Tito let the Albanians in not only out of kindness, but also to solve the demographic problem. The decision was mixed.
      Actually, like this, the historical heart of Serbia turned out to be inhabited by newcomers.
  8. andsavichev2012
    andsavichev2012 21 February 2013 09: 53
    -5
    Yes, it’s Kosovo! The problems began not 5 years ago, but much earlier, even under Tito. Let them tackle themselves ...
  9. Dangerous
    Dangerous 21 February 2013 09: 57
    +2
    Milosevic, of course, was not a gift, either to Europeans or to his inhabitants, but it’s inconceivable to bombard a European country, artificially crushing it into parts, like that. And what did those politicians hope that these Gypsies would become Albanian cultural Europeans?
    1. andsavichev2012
      andsavichev2012 21 February 2013 10: 09
      -10%
      Albanians are not exactly Gypsies, they are descendants of Illyrians, they are local in Europe, unlike the Celts, Slavs and Germans
      1. Artyom
        Artyom 21 February 2013 10: 17
        +1
        Quote: andsavichev2012
        they are local in Europe

        Yes, you see a big specialist on the issue of resettlement of peoples
        who lived where and when is this a big question? and as practice shows, the clean history of the people is written with a pitchfork on water or sucked out of a finger to please one or another ruler!
      2. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 21 February 2013 14: 35
        +3
        Quote: andsavichev2012
        Albanians are not exactly Gypsies, they are descendants of Illyrians, they are local in Europe


        enchantingly, the Albanians in Kosovo are local, and the Slavs are new Serbs laughing

        what other revelation will you please us with?
        1. stalker
          stalker 21 February 2013 14: 46
          0
          And so it is, by and large.
  10. Simon
    Simon 21 February 2013 10: 15
    +4
    Nothing friends, soon all of Europe will be like Kosovo. France, soon Muslims from Africa, the former French colonies, will oust all Catholic Aborigines .. Muslim radicals, from Turkey, from northern Africa, from Libya and Egypt, also climb to Germany and England from all sides. There is a Muslimization of all of Europe. Muslims even in Sweden and in Norway, where they have never been. Europeans take all, they have the same democracy. As if their democracy was not formed in them by a cancerous tumor, which then would have to be surgically excised. Then Kosovo will be remembered.
  11. IRBIS
    IRBIS 21 February 2013 10: 17
    +4
    They were sheltered, fed, warmed ... They were overeating, insolent, robbed ... Pity and connivance have not yet brought any of the givers any benefit. Especially when the difference in culture and mentality is so obvious and insurmountable. Europe is also approaching the "point of no return", when "grateful" visitors begin to claim their own exclusivity. And we, with our "legislators", are stomping in the same direction with leaps and bounds, absolutely not perceiving other people's mistakes and their sad experience.
  12. straiser
    straiser 21 February 2013 10: 27
    +1
    I believe that the problem of Kosovo is Europe itself in the future. In recent years, the number of Muslims has been actively growing in the West. And I won’t be surprised if the same war takes place in Germany or in France ...
  13. Prometey
    Prometey 21 February 2013 10: 58
    -2
    Kosovo is, first of all, the result of the short-sighted policy of Milosevic, who, since the late 1980s, has been .... all of Yugoslavia and eventually driven the Serbs into political isolation. Yugoslavia had the opportunity to survive within Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, Bosnia (the Croats and Slovenes would have left anyway). Milosevic’s policy was about the same as Shevarnadze’s policy towards Abkhazia and Ossetia. Unwillingness to compromise ultimately plunged the Balkans into a civil war, and then to NATO intervention, all with the humiliating silence of the Russian Federation.
  14. Xtra1l
    Xtra1l 21 February 2013 11: 16
    +2
    Syria - Syrian President Bashar Assad against recognition of Kosovo’s independence
    Syrian Opposition (Syrian National Council) led by Ammar Abdulhamid promises to recognize Kosovo immediately after coming to power in Syria
    1. Octavian avgust
      Octavian avgust 21 February 2013 11: 47
      0
      You can see right away where the hands are growing!
  15. straiser
    straiser 21 February 2013 11: 38
    +2
    Quote: Prometey
    and all this with the humiliating silence of the Russian Federation.

    But do you remember what Russia was like at that time? Our country itself was on the verge of collapse ....

    Quote: Xtra1l
    Syrian Opposition (Syrian National Council) led by Ammar Abdulhamid promises to recognize Kosovo immediately after coming to power in Syria

    We still have to come to power laughing
  16. abc_alex
    abc_alex 21 February 2013 12: 17
    +2
    Serbia and Kosovo is, above all, a lesson. Lesson of Russia.
    There are regions where the disintegration process, once launched once, can last forever. The Balkans is such a region. And no matter how we feel about the NATO bombing, we must admit that as a model of military influence on the region, the "Kosovo" project is almost ideal. At least for its complexity.
    We in Abkhazia and Ossetia still lack this. That is, a forceful action was carried out, but we cannot yet drive the local elite into a rigid framework and give a "beautiful carrot" somewhere-integration.
  17. Magadan
    Magadan 21 February 2013 12: 44
    0
    I can only wish the Serb brothers to hold on. Do not recognize Kosovo in any way! Every dog ​​has his day. Foul Albanians will answer for everything. It would be necessary for our and the Serbs to create secret detachments that will operate in Kosovo and destroy their military and police facilities. To come up with some kind of extremist organization to which the official Belgrade type has nothing to do. Well, or a semi-official organization, which doesn’t actually fight, and the individual members that come across, it seems, are not members at all. A lot of options in one word, would be a desire. Personally, I would constantly send donations to such an organization.
    By the way, ordinary Europeans do not tolerate Albanians. And if the Serbs were muddied, the population of Europe would be morally on their side.
    1. Grishka100watt
      Grishka100watt 21 February 2013 14: 02
      +1
      Like the Black Hand? It reminds me of something ..... events with Gavrila Princip and Franz Ferdinand.
  18. Navy7981
    Navy7981 21 February 2013 19: 15
    +2
    I'm curious. To keep the European political elite for fools is stupid. But what then is the trick of the Kosovo project? Dozens of signs indicate that this is a pseudo-state, because without outside help it will not be able to support itself. Extremely small resources, but this is not even the point, the intellectual and educational level is extremely low + a simplified worldview. In order to at least partially approach Europe, one must be able to create any values. But it is difficult and time consuming. So what's the point? Maintain a military base there? Launder money? To destroy the Pan-Slavic idea, so she herself died. Can we tear away a potential ally from Russia? I can't even imagine, but Europe will definitely have problems in the future. The impoverishment of the bulk of the population will sooner or later lead to a massive radicalization of the Aklav under the black banner of "cut everyone out" with a corresponding consequence.
    Someone can guess?
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 21 February 2013 19: 33
      +1
      Quote: Navy7981
      To hold the European political elite as fools is foolish.


      what to establish in Europe an enclave of drug traffickers somehow weakly fit with the mind.



      Quote: Navy7981
      But what then is the trick of the Kosovo project?


      "Soft underbelly of Europe"
      Jeffrey Cpayder.

      Destruction of a strong pro-Russian state.
      Europe, throughout the course of history, crap the Balkans as soon as it could, but then there was such a chance.
      Well, do not forget that this is an American project, and the fact that in NATO all members are engaged in serving the United States, no one argues with this.

    2. Grishka100watt
      Grishka100watt 21 February 2013 20: 36
      0
      It was necessary to bomb Yugoslavia - this is the only reason why the Kosovo project appeared. As long as there is an independent Kosovo, Yugoslavia, or at least its main part, will not be able to recover. They destroyed Yugoslavia, using the pretext of oppressing the Albanians, and now they will maintain this "state", they have nothing else to do)
      Kosovo will be contained as a silent reminder of the southern and eastern Slavs.
  19. Alikovo
    Alikovo 21 February 2013 19: 20
    0
    NATO and US assets
  20. ko88
    ko88 21 February 2013 23: 41
    0
    God will punish Europe for Kosovo !! and Kara Bout in the face of total Islamization! am
  21. kukuruzo
    kukuruzo 22 February 2013 00: 40
    +1
    Shame .. still declare this to the whole world ..
  22. garik404
    garik404 22 February 2013 02: 35
    0
    Kosovo je Srbija !!!
  23. anatoliy73
    anatoliy73 23 February 2013 21: 05
    0
    I don’t know how - who, but personally I don’t really know the history of Kosovo, but I remember very well how during the "bardelier" that was happening in Albania during "it time" (by the way, because of the local analogue mmm, it all started - I remember well) in Kosovo, columns of "poor Albanian refugees" were gathering dust, such as to visit relatives and the Serbs let them pass. and then everything is according to the fairy tale about the fox, the hare and their hut winked smile ... And yet - I came here out of interest - to see if one of the "hot Georgian guys" would catch up on such a "burning" topic and turned out to be right - they were grazing here the genatsval, they noted! laughing