In Chebarkul, where a meteorite has fallen, unscheduled airborne maneuvers will take place, and the General Staff of the Armed Forces for the first time in 20 years conducts a sudden check. Coincidence?

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In Chebarkul, where a meteorite has fallen, unscheduled airborne maneuvers will take place, and the General Staff of the Armed Forces for the first time in 20 years conducts a sudden check. Coincidence?On the Chebarkul training ground on Wednesday, February 20, unscheduled military-tactical exercises of the airborne troops will start. By order of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, the 98 Division of the Airborne Forces was redeployed to the Chelyabinsk Region for the duration of the events.

To practice combat training missions at the Shagol airbase, at least 20 heavy military transport aircraft Il-76 and other military equipment landed. In the near future, they will all be relocated to Chebarkul. “The exercises are urgent, the combat readiness of the division will be checked,” a representative of the Ministry of Defense told the Chelyabinsk.ru correspondent by telephone, “they will last three to four days. Chebarkulsky range selected as the most prepared for heavy aviation».

Meanwhile, representatives of the Airborne Troops Command information are reluctant to share, referring to the order of the command. “By the order of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, the exercises are not closed, the press will not be invited to them, and the event will not be covered,” said Alexander Kucherenko, Assistant Commander of the Airborne Forces. “Information about how much military equipment has been relocated to the Chelyabinsk region is not subject to disclosure.”



Simultaneously:

For the first time in 20 years, the General Staff of the Armed Forces (AF) of the Russian Federation, at the direction of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, conducts a sudden check of combat readiness and combat capability, reports the Russian Defense Ministry on Tuesday.

"At the direction of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, Army General Sergei Shoigu, the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces conducts a series of measures for the sudden check of the combat readiness and combat capability of associations and formations of the Central Military District. A sudden check of the combat readiness and combat ability of such a scale is held for the first time in the last 20 years" in the message.

According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, one of the main tasks of the event is a sudden test of the ability of the command of the military district to organize interaction and combat use of a diverse group of forces in given operational-strategic areas.

"For this purpose, the event involved formations and military units of all types and combat arms of the Armed Forces deployed in the military district. Practical actions are attended by about 7 thousand soldiers, several hundred units of military equipment and about forty aircraft of various purposes", in the release.

It is curious that it was to Lake Chebarkul last Friday that the supposed meteorite fell, which caused a lot of noise to the entire Chelyabinsk region. The meteorite itself, however, was never found.

Whether the unscheduled exercises and the simultaneous decision of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (for the first time in 20 years) are related, it is not known about carrying out sudden inspections with a meteorite falling.

The press service of the Central Military District Nakanune.RU confirmed the fact of the exercise, but declined to comment.
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  1. +1
    20 February 2013 07: 39
    The Airborne Forces is the most combat-ready unit. In my opinion, sudden checks should be carried out in other parts in the first place - the landing will not let you down.
    1. +13
      20 February 2013 08: 39
      Well, yes, you can say that, but then give examples of the "non-readiness" of marines, border guards, special forces ...
      You probably wanted to say - mobile, constant combat readiness.
    2. 0
      20 February 2013 09: 02
      In general, when I found out about the meteorite, I thought that the next Powers had landed. Do Amers use any new crap in near space? Here she was thinking and that ... And here are the exercises, the test of combat readiness ... Nothing is heard about the Amer hypersonic stratospheric flyer? About the disaster at the start and so on?
    3. +8
      20 February 2013 09: 43
      Something is unclean with this meteorite, unclean ...
      1. +3
        20 February 2013 10: 14
        too unexpected coincidence - meteorite and teachings! ???? maybe something Korean, or American or your own fell !? but we can and brought down what! ???? the most bummer is that no one will tell the truth ((((
        1. Juga
          +6
          20 February 2013 10: 31
          If it was an ordinary meteor and nothing mysterious was shot down, then those who decided to conduct sudden exercises, and even with the participation of the Airborne Forces in the zone of the meteorite fall, is a big plus, the notable trolling of the "world community" turns out, at how many bricks they are vysr will produce ...
          But if there is something to hide, ento is no longer funny ...

          PS Isn't the airborne troops landing at the Chebarkul training ground a component of the plan for a "sudden check of combat readiness"? And then the article presents them as two completely independent operations, although one is part of the other.
        2. +3
          20 February 2013 17: 03
          Any exercises are suddenly not planned. Moreover, on such a scale. This is clearly a pure coincidence.
          Astrophysicist Nikolai Gorkavy: “Chelyabinsk citizens survived the most destructive space bombardment in the history of mankind.”
          What happened on the morning of February 15, 2013 over the Southern Urals? Judging by the reports and the nature of the destruction, a massive cosmic body entered the atmosphere. According to the data of infrasound stations, NASA specified the car’s parameters: diameter 17 meters, weight 10000 tons, air entry speed 18 km / s, explosion power - 500 kilotons (the power of the explosion in Hiroshima was approximately 15 kilotons, but at a significantly lower height, and the wave power falls from the reciprocal distance in the cube). Chelyabinsk car is the most powerful after the Tunguska.

          SAINT PETERSBURG, February 15. The fact that the meteorite fell on the territory of the Chelyabinsk region, in fact, unexpectedly, brought destruction and human casualties, is also to blame for the attitude of the state towards the field of astronomy. There is a shortage of telescopes in Russia, and especially of the latest generation of telescopes, which are in America and Europe. The incident was commented on by the "Rosbalt" correspondent at the Pulkovo Observatory.
          More details: http://www.rosbalt.ru/piter/2013/02/15/1094775.html

          For scientists, a meteorite that exploded in the sky over the Chelyabinsk region should be evidence that it is necessary to develop technologies for the detection and investigation of dangerous space objects, experts say Oleg Malkov and Dmitry Vibe.

          Member of the Council of the Federation of Russia Konstantin Tsybko suggested returning astronomy teaching to the school curriculum, since the fall of the meteorite near Chelyabinsk caused a lot of unscientific speculation.

          How long in our country, smart innovations, or rather the return of the old, will depend on the next emergency? This applies to all areas of our lives.
          1. 0
            20 February 2013 17: 19
            Quote: AleksUkr
            Any exercises are not suddenly planned.

            I completely agree .
            There is a joke: A stir in the headquarters_A plan of unplanned events was lost!
            But who will confirm this? After all, no one will believe!
            Quote: AleksUkr
            smart innovations, or rather the return of the old, will depend on the next emergency?

            Asteroid 2012 DA14 will approach the Earth next time in 2046
            http://www.itar-tass.com/c1/654798.html
          2. 0
            20 February 2013 20: 42
            Quote: AleksUkr
            Astrophysicist Nikolai Gorky: “Chelyabinsk citizens survived the most destructive space bombardment in the history of mankind”

            The whole world was lit up, open to all people, and meteorites fell from the sky. Seeing a snake flashing in the bow, WORLDS together with Indra wept in torment. 215 pp. And 241 pp. Felt the world that the cold would kill him, and he was split by meteorites, and the sun rushed from heaven to the dust, and the prey of the demon Rahu became the prey of the demon Rahu, the Earth, no longer hoping for salvation, Shaken in a continuous and terrible shaking ... ..ancient Indian epic "Mahabharata" about 1100 BC eh
      2. calculator
        0
        20 February 2013 15: 12

        Here the strange thing happens
        1. +1
          20 February 2013 15: 15
          This is a foot meteor crew blows. Well, or what have they got instead of legs ....
  2. Vanek
    +2
    20 February 2013 07: 39
    Not! Not a coincidence. Meteorites do not fall every year. No, they certainly fall, but for the most part they burn out. And there in the lake, it seems like a decent piece should be.
    1. +14
      20 February 2013 08: 14
      Quote: Vanek
      And there in the lake, it seems like a decent piece should be.

      And maybe the meteor crew laughing
      1. Vanek
        +4
        20 February 2013 08: 15
        And what the hell is not joking laughing
        1. MilaPhone
          +8
          20 February 2013 08: 18
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And maybe the meteor crew

          Of course, do not leave them there not buried, to be torn to pieces by the severe Chelyabinsk crows.
    2. +1
      20 February 2013 11: 22
      Hi guys. Poor aliens. Right now, the harsh guys from the Airborne Forces are poking them. What nonsense is this? Damn that right now the whole year we will speak only for a meteorite and what is connected with it?
      1. Sergh
        +1
        20 February 2013 16: 02
        Hi guys!
        Another rzhaka over a foreign country.

    3. +2
      20 February 2013 15: 10
      as it were, severe Chelyabinsk divers had already explored the whole lake and found nothing. if the speed was high, then those parts that separated may well pass for the collapse of the meteorite at the entrance to the atmosphere. and when it fell, such a meteorite could simply disintegrate into dust that they could not find anything. but the Airborne Forces there are certainly wondering what is forgotten ??? maybe they just came up with a script? type attacked by a conditional opponent? maybe Putin and Barak argued that our air defense or their Trident-2 is better ... there can be a bunch of versions, it all depends on the state of fantasy ... wassat
  3. calculator
    +2
    20 February 2013 07: 40
    We are completely confused here now wassat
  4. djon3volta
    +1
    20 February 2013 07: 46
    Yes, on TV they showed a column of armored vehicles, it’s not sickly at all, some of which went under their own power, others on railway, airplanes .. guys there with grenade launchers bully
    1. John from the USA
      0
      20 February 2013 09: 07
      I personally saw a train with armored vehicles (tanks, self-propelled guns) hurrying to the Chebarkul area in the city line at around 8 a.m.

      I feel they will rattle seriously!
  5. calculator
    +13
    20 February 2013 07: 48
    Are they going to beat the alien face? I'm afraid to imagine the name of the teachings ... laughing
    1. +4
      20 February 2013 09: 41
      And after all, what are these aliens brave, immediately swung at Chelyabinsk. And they’re not afraid, after all. It’s interesting, and the training plan includes shooting at simulating flying saucers at different distances.

      PySy I'm not joking.
    2. 0
      20 February 2013 10: 34
      It’s interesting what kind of crap the field station manager will soak on this fact. Putin, a tyrant raised to the holy hand, into space, now they probably have a brain in full swing, as if to spoil it to the benefit.
      1. +2
        20 February 2013 11: 08
        In your mine delirium begins.
        1. +1
          20 February 2013 19: 57
          And thank God that only nonsense, Although the last bog stocks do not seem so to me.
  6. +15
    20 February 2013 07: 57
    Just came a real MO. in 20 years we managed to forget what it should be.
    1. Sergh
      +3
      20 February 2013 14: 15
      Quote: KrSk
      Just came a real MO. we have forgotten in 20 years

      Listen to KrSk, how right you are! I've been spying on him for two months now, I thought there would be a hassle, but he (Kuzhugetovich) is tightening the nut more and more steeply, I even look, he took the knob to tighten it on a string in the same way! She even took some pride, well, finally, a real-service man came to the army, which is not a day, then an order, and not one like: "... reform EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING", but concrete work on equipment and troops.
      If you continue to trample it, then Kuzhugetovich will be honored and respected (pah-pah, do not jinx it). And we calmly wait for pennies to grow up children and grandchildren.
      1. 0
        20 February 2013 19: 07
        Quote: Sergh
        Finally, a real, serving man came to the army, which is not a day, then an order, and not one like: "... reform EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING", but concrete work on equipment and troops.

        Today on "Mayak" I heard that Shoigu ordered to restore military medicine and return military ranks to military doctors.
  7. +2
    20 February 2013 07: 58
    I wonder where our East Kazakhstan looked? Che, something like that because of the fact that they were splashed, a meteorite is the same ballistic target, and so it would be if the rocket had been splashed
    1. calculator
      0
      20 February 2013 08: 01
      I think nothing would have happened .... well, or at least most of everything.
      1. Yoshkin Kot
        +1
        20 February 2013 09: 36
        um and how will you knock a meteorite? shrapnel? laughing
        1. Bashkaus
          +2
          20 February 2013 11: 54
          Air defense missiles are divided into two types:
          1-standard for the defeat of single aircraft (mentioned shrapnel)
          2-small nuclear weapons surprise, it is believed that it is effective in defeating group targets, especially if it is 10 warheads or bomb carriers, it is easier to arrange one explosion higher to avoid lower explosions. These, too, are regularly armed with air defense.
          So I, too, thought about the question was shot down or not? if we admit the option "shot down" and think logically, then using a conventional rocket with shrapnel to work against a piece of something incomprehensible flying from space is simply ridiculous, it means that a nuclear weapon was used.
          And the question is: who now admits that a nuclear explosion was fired at Chelyabensky, even for the sake of a meteorite? Yes, the marshes would be immediately discarded from overexcitation, not to mention the rest of the world.
          Then the movement is explained with studies, close the area, carry out disinfection, etc. (But I put forward such a theory hypothetically, it could be so simple)
          Maybe it was just a meteorite, which they are now looking for, and to whom to look, to hire Tajiks? So they put the army under arms, and studies and science.
          Or maybe something fucked, whose is interesting?
          Our vryatli, would grumble as always from Plesetsk to Kamchatka, but here the trajectory is not the same.
          Americans? interesting than, apparently something super-experienced.
          And suddenly it was just a telephone conversation between Obama and Putin, just to reinforce his position, Obama pulled a single trident, maybe even a dummy in the area of ​​the industrial center with explanations (we can add). And what if we have disagreements with them, we decided to answer for the Syrian exercises of the Navy.
          In short, the chatter is now about 50 years old until it is declassified, and in the meantime, sometimes a major is just a major)))
          1. lucidlook
            +1
            20 February 2013 12: 24
            You should have at least watched the video before talking about how you "shot down". Here you can clearly see.
            1. Bashkaus
              0
              20 February 2013 12: 52
              Once again, I repeat once again that my hypothesis with a nuclear explosion is just a hypothesis that I do not insist on, and I can refute it myself:
              The missile went very close (even if it didn’t hit) the nuclear explosion would have blasted everything to hell.
              this video shows:
              a-object becomes visible directly on approach
              b-it passes through and flies out whole without getting any damage or i.e. missed?
              This 100% proves that they tried to purposefully shoot down the object.
              Someone expressed doubts attributing this to the camera glare, because the trail of the interceptor is not visible, but I watched the video on the operation of the C300, indeed the frames are very similar, see 1:30 of this video, the trail disappears from the rocket and it looks like a "fire stick")) )
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KG7kY3t7QQ
            2. Bashkaus
              +2
              20 February 2013 12: 54
              Once again, I repeat once again that my hypothesis with a nuclear explosion is just a hypothesis that I do not insist on, and I can refute it myself:
              The missile went very close (even if it didn’t hit) the nuclear explosion would have blasted everything to hell.
              this video shows:
              a-object becomes visible directly on approach
              b-it passes through and flies out whole without getting any damage or i.e. missed?
              This 100% proves that they tried to purposefully shoot down the object.
              Someone expressed doubts attributing this to the glare of the camera, because there is no trace of the interceptor, but I watched the video on the C300, really the frames are very similar, see 1:30 of this video, the track disappears from the rocket and it looks like that.
              1. +2
                20 February 2013 12: 58
                Sergey, why do you think that even one of our rockets is capable of knocking down a meteorite in a catch-up course? If you believe it, the object flies up to the rear meteorite quite quickly, which means that it has a much higher speed than the meteor! Well, neither our nor American air defense missiles can fly at such speeds!
                1. Bashkaus
                  +1
                  20 February 2013 14: 16
                  Look, the video clearly shows how an object approaches a meteorite and flashes it through and through.
                  The question is what is it? I’ll make a reservation right away, we can only guess.
                  In principle, it looks like a rocket (see other videos of the same S-300)
                  If not S-300 then what?
                  Do you admit that the Russian Federation can be armed with experimental systems with a "top secret" stamp and we all know about the real case with the S-500?
                  Do you guarantee that the same A-135 in its next modernization protects only the central region?
                  Indirectly, such assumptions can be confirmed by sudden teachings.
                  It would not be nice if in a month a group of foreign tourists-skiers find the wreckage of some very interesting thing that guards the sky of Russia.
                  1. 0
                    20 February 2013 15: 01
                    The question is what is it? I’ll make a reservation right away, we can only guess.

                    I am inclined to think that this is just a glare from the refraction of light.
                    Do you admit that the Russian Federation can be armed with experimental systems with a "top secret" stamp and we all know about the real case with the S-500?

                    I admit existence. But throwing such an article (a terribly expensive and piece-wise copy) into a meteor accidentally turned up is hardly possible.
                    Do you guarantee that the same A-135 in its next modernization protects only the central region?

                    Well, only the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and the Minister of Defense can guarantee. But there are certain doubts - the infrastructure for A-135 is not small and complicated. You can’t build it so quickly and easily.
                    Indirectly, such assumptions can be confirmed by sudden teachings.

                    This can also indirectly confirm that they decided to use the fall of the meteor as a legend for exercises.
                    It would not be nice if in a month a group of foreign tourists-skiers find the wreckage of some very interesting thing that guards the sky of Russia.

                    I agree. But is there a missile test site near Chelyabinsk?
                    1. lucidlook
                      +1
                      20 February 2013 18: 30
                      Quote: Wedmak
                      I admit existence. But throwing such an article (a terribly expensive and piece-wise copy) into a meteor accidentally turned up is hardly possible.

                      And how do you know - what exactly is it? It flies fast, approaches a large settlement, does not respond to radio requests. What to expect? When will it crash into the city with all its tons? Oh well.

                      If our missile defense really worked, then I think everything was done correctly.
                      1. 0
                        20 February 2013 21: 42
                        And how do you know - what exactly is it? It flies fast, approaches a large settlement, does not respond to radio requests. What to expect?

                        I have read your post so far, the meteor has overcome half the way to the earth and has already illuminated Chelyabinsk with its unearthly light. And you still have to make a decision. Now imagine that you have in your PU the latest rocket for half a billion rubles. You decide to run it on some stone, which is already half actually burned?
                      2. lucidlook
                        0
                        20 February 2013 22: 30
                        I suppose there are clear instructions on what to do if an unresponsive intruder approaches the protected object. And something tells me that there is no point "to decide". wink
                      3. 0
                        21 February 2013 09: 49
                        I suppose you are right, but I doubt very much that in this instruction it is prescribed to shoot a test product at an intruder. Rather, it will be destroyed.
                      4. lucidlook
                        0
                        21 February 2013 19: 35
                        So his and destroyed. I dare to hope so.
                  2. 0
                    20 February 2013 15: 17
                    Believe me, there’s more than one battalion of BB and SV drove out, they collected the rest. it always happens after exercises, soldiers conscripts go in a chain and collect, if that’s something big they’ll put a flag on.
                  3. +1
                    20 February 2013 23: 23
                    Quote: Bashkaus
                    In principle, it looks like a rocket (see other videos of the same S-300)
                    If not S-300 then what?


                    It works on targets with a speed of up to 2800 m / s, is not able to shoot down an ICBM warhead falling even on a ballistic trajectory at a speed of about 7000 m / s (as well as a similar car). Only ABM A-135 can shoot down such targets.
                    S-400, by the way, cannot either - it works up to 4800 m / s. But the S-500 WILL be capable of shooting down such high-speed targets. In Russia, they are only building factories for the production of missiles for the S-400 (500) in Kirov and Nizhny Novgorod. 77N6-N and 77N6-H1 missiles will be the first Russian missiles with inert warheads. They will destroy the enemy’s nuclear shells in a kinetic way - simply put, by accurately hitting the body at high speed.Now anti-aircraft missiles have a high-explosive fragmentation detonation when approaching the target, a directed stream of fragments is created which flashes the target plane or rocket) No explosives are required. According to engineers, a collision at a speed of 7 km / s is guaranteed to destroy any flying object. Without a standard anti-missile system, the Triumph complexes still use products from the old S-300s. Their range of destruction is about 200 km, although the S-400 is designed to intercept targets at distances twice as large. There are no “Prometheus” yet, but rumor has it that prototypes have already seen this at one or the other training ground.

                    At the very least, they found a way out with Triumph, but there are problems with Prometheus approaching: he cannot fire missiles from S-300. In order not to repeat the experience of S-400, it is required to establish the production of missiles simultaneously with the start of mass production of the complex, and no later than 2014

                    The lack of full-time missiles interferes with the full-fledged equipping of the Air Force and Aerospace Defense Forces with S-400 complexes.

                    Quote: Bashkaus
                    Do you admit that the Russian Federation can be armed with experimental systems with a "top secret" stamp and we all know about the real case with the S-500?


                    No rockets for him yet

                    Quote: Bashkaus
                    Do you guarantee that the same A-135 in its next modernization protects only the central region?


                    It’s just that we are planning to modernize as embedding the S-500 in the A-135 system of Moscow, which will allow us to create elements of a strategic missile defense system not only near Moscow but also as the S-500 (400) is deployed in other regions of Russia with the prospect of creating a single four-level Air defense systems (air defense) of the country (plan as usual for 2020)


                    By the way, judging by the trajectory of the car, he flew just through the zone of responsibility of the non-existent SPRN Balkhash station.
                    Irkutsk and Armavir do not cover the entire southeast. Among the possible locations for a new generation of radars, the areas of the cities of Barnaul, Yeniseisk, Omsk are considered
                    My webpage
                2. +1
                  20 February 2013 18: 59
                  In space I wouldn’t be capable, but on Earth ...
                  18 km / s is the speed at which a meteorite enters the atmosphere. No air defense can intercept an object moving at such a speed. But, having entered the planet’s atmosphere, the object began to lose its speed sharply from friction, while heating up. How much his speed has fallen over the distance that he flew, I don’t know, I’m not a mathematician, but I should have fallen seriously. Otherwise, nothing would have reached the ground at all.
                  1. lucidlook
                    0
                    20 February 2013 19: 58
                    Quote: tungus
                    but had to fall seriously

                    If we compare the degree of speed drop by analogy with ICBM warheads, then this is about 7 km / s at the entrance to the atmosphere and somewhere around 2-3 km / s in dense layers (at altitudes of the order of 10 km).
                    1. 0
                      20 February 2013 22: 26
                      Quote: lucidlook

                      If we compare the degree of speed drop by analogy with ICBM warheads, then this is approximately 7km / s at the entrance to the atmosphere and somewhere 2-3km / s in dense layers

                      Invalid comparison. Warheads have a cone-shaped shape, that is, optimal from the point of view of aerodynamics, in contrast to a meteorite. And the drop in speed of the blocks will be many times lower.
                  2. 0
                    20 February 2013 21: 44
                    Judging by the video, the speed has dropped slightly. Maybe they would have intercepted 2-3 km from the ground, but there was nothing to intercept there already, there was only one rubble.
              2. +1
                20 February 2013 13: 31
                ATTENTION, comrades! The police received numerous complaints about sending SMS messages: "Mom, uh, I smashed a meteorite, I crossed 1000000 rubles - I will repair it, ok, yeah?"
                Be carefull!
              3. lucidlook
                0
                20 February 2013 13: 50
                a) - I agree. Why is that? Because the brilliance from the illumination of the core of the bollide allowed him to be seen in a gas-dust plume from such a distance.

                b) - it looks more like it hits on a tangent. Partial hit. Visible fragments flying towards the impact. Apparently, this is my assumption, thereby violating the internal structure of the bolide and it exploded and fell to pieces.

                Imha, very similar to the kinetic warhead of the air defense / missile defense system
              4. 0
                21 February 2013 17: 35
                The farther into the forest, the more firewood:

                “New details have emerged in the case of a meteorite that fell in the Chelyabinsk region. There are strong suspicions that the car was shot down by an unknown object.

                Inquisitive researchers increased and slowed down amateur footage of a meteorite fall that circumvented the message of the world. The recording shows how an object catches up with a meteorite, crashes, after which an explosion occurs. You can see how the fragments of the car fly apart.

                It was this explosion that shocked Chelyabinsk and its environs.

                The Americans are already shouting about the Russians' new secret weapon. There are versions that the meteorite was rammed by an extraterrestrial UFO. "

                HOW DO YOU LIKE THIS?
                1. 0
                  21 February 2013 18: 26
                  Where did this come from?
            3. 0
              20 February 2013 13: 17
              Then where is the tail from the shooting object?
              I wonder at what height the outbreak occurred?
              1. Bashkaus
                +1
                20 February 2013 14: 00
                There might not have been a tail from a shooting object, I gave the S-300 launch link just above, the gas cloud can disappear under certain conditions, there at 1:30 it happens just like that, a luminous object flies up.
            4. 0
              20 February 2013 16: 29
              lucidlook or something that vidyuhu (Meteorite and the UFO that saves us (Russia, Chelyabinsk) Zoomed) twist in VirtualDub? Kep evidence, kagbe thickly alludes to luls and other gesheft. Zomboyaschik flowed into our Internet. wassat Although in vain I’m talking about it, it’s funnier to watch the comments for the video. Where is my beer and popcorn? drinks
              1. lucidlook
                0
                20 February 2013 18: 37
                And what did VirtualDub do? One of the many utilities for frame-by-frame video processing is nothing more. What confused you? request Below is already a link to another similar video without virtualdab.
                1. 0
                  20 February 2013 19: 22
                  Oak, sometimes crushed the fields (deinterlacing) after inserting masks and graphics, when I worked on TV shows ("comb" = evil). FCP and Premier used to lag behind in performance, speed, and availability. (a value judgment because "by eye") Although there is no need to tinker with the file from the video recorder as for TV broadcasting (576i - earlier, most of the content on TV) From the recorder, the picture is probably already with progressive scan (a'la progressive, in the settings surely there is a choice), that's not the point. It's just that the program reminded me of the serial past.
                  So, translating into Russian: we drew a mask in Photoshop, animated and stylized according to quality. Although it can be done differently, there are many ways, and in order to simply re-calculate the video for the Internet. (fragment from source file)

                  The point is here: it seems to me that the video is LOL, for collecting lulz and watching epic holivars. And the link below is the same (possibly the same author), but without the pale program.
                  Threat Do not believe your eyes. For it is said on the Internet.

                  ZZY Actually, it was embarrassing that the program for creativity with video.
    2. +4
      20 February 2013 08: 06
      maybe they didn’t oversleep, the speed of the object is 30 km per second. And if you take into account that after the explosion at the entrance to the atmosphere there was no nucleus, then there was no problem at all for Bruce Willis. Well, in general, yes ... They say the Gabala radar does not work ...
      1. calculator
        0
        20 February 2013 08: 09
        Nurek, but it works
      2. lucidlook
        0
        20 February 2013 14: 13
        It is a alleged speed occurrences in atmosphere.
        1. 0
          20 February 2013 15: 02
          Well, yes ... but the fact is that the difference in 10 km / s will not significantly change the matter. What 20, what 10 ... one FIG not to bring down.
    3. +3
      20 February 2013 08: 10
      Meteorite is a completely different opera !!! Such, relatively small, pebbles, I think, in no country can not only bring down, but even track ...
      winked
      1. calculator
        0
        20 February 2013 08: 13
        Weight is a few tens of tons belay
        1. Vanek
          0
          20 February 2013 08: 15
          Quote: calculator
          Weight is a few tens of tons


          What about the size?
          1. calculator
            0
            20 February 2013 08: 19
            I think the size is appropriate .... as far as I understand there was a stone meteorite (ordinary chondrite) 10-20 cubes approximately
            1. calculator
              +1
              20 February 2013 08: 30
              wikipedia says:
              A celestial body with an initial mass of about 10 tons and an average size of 000 m entered the earth's atmosphere at an acute angle at a speed of about 17 km / s and after 18 seconds collapsed [32,5]

              nifiga 10000 tons
            2. Vanek
              +1
              20 February 2013 08: 35
              Quote: calculator
              10-20 cubes approximately


              If at the entrance to the atmosphere, then yes, big. Well, in any case, not small. You should try to blunder such a bulldozer.
    4. yorik_gagarin
      +1
      20 February 2013 09: 05
      The whole air defense chip is to track the MBR on take-off. That is why the Americans of Ibn NATO encircle us along the perimeter with their air defense. That is why we refuse mine-based ..... that is why Pts were very happy when we removed the train from service. When the rocket went through the take-off stage ....... what kind of warning could be talked about. The purpose is determined for destruction. There are strategic systems, there are tactical ones. And the question is ... did this object take off from the ground. If we take the military tracking system, then its greater potential is aimed at determining slightly different goals than a meteorite. (the probability of dying from a meteorite is less than from a rocket). The fact that this object did not fly to the ground ....... for me means the following:

      1. If the object was shot down ..... air defense ..... then respect to the peasants. (Destroy meteorite missile defense ha ha ha funny)
      2. If the object exploded on its own then ..... it was. We were trained by "partners" ..... or a random object from space (nifiga is not a meteorite) and the air defense ..... somehow did not work.
    5. DYMITRY
      +2
      20 February 2013 09: 27
      Quote: Kair501

      I wonder where our East Kazakhstan looked? Che, something like that because of the fact that they were splashed, a meteorite is the same ballistic target, and so it would be if the rocket had been splashed

      And who said that they spoiled it?
      Here in this video you can clearly see how the meteor catches up with an object:
      http://www.yapfiles.ru/show/558497/c4a70603cb4395a2bb2f0dcec04ed390.flv.html?aut
      oplay = 1
      According to some reports, three launches were made. One of the missiles passed, two hit the target. In the video above, it looks like the missile that missed.
      1. Sleptsoff
        0
        20 February 2013 10: 57
        I read that 6 missile launches were made (just 6 objects in the video), 5 missiles hit, one passed by.
      2. Bashkaus
        +3
        20 February 2013 12: 04
        Dmytri, thank you, what a joy, and in truth it turns out that they shot down!
        KILLED my dear, and what was shot down is not so important, the paratroopers will figure it out)
        how much joy and pride in your country!
        Let the supporters now think hard, if this crap was shot down, then the fighters, grinded into skulls and bones, are planted.
        Know ours!
  8. +1
    20 February 2013 07: 59
    Or maybe not a meteorite fell at all. And something very interesting. Therefore, they did not bring down anti-aircraft defense, but waited for it to fall.
    1. +9
      20 February 2013 08: 16
      Quote: MuadDib

      Or maybe not a meteorite fell at all. And something very interesting

      Well, since 7 thousand people were sent, it means that something interesting has fallen.
      1. slvevg
        +3
        20 February 2013 08: 39
        I think if something interesting had fallen, they would have taken out under cover of night a group of no more than 20 people quietly, under the guise of environmentalists, but 7tysch airborne forces is too much, even without Bruce laughing
        1. Captain Vrungel
          +3
          20 February 2013 09: 01
          Why busting. It is necessary to collect snow in such an area and to melt it in bowlers in search of something interesting.
      2. 1st_user
        +1
        20 February 2013 14: 04
        If something very interesting knocks down the air defense, then the wreckage of this something will be no less interesting.
  9. +3
    20 February 2013 08: 00
    For more often it is necessary to conduct such exercises, and not once every 20 years. Here!
  10. Kuzkin Batyan
    +4
    20 February 2013 08: 06
    First a meteorite, therefore immediately there are teachings. It all reminds of a movie such was "district number 9".
    1. +6
      20 February 2013 08: 27
      reminds of "Roadside Picnic", when troops were brought into the newly formed Zone)
      1. +2
        20 February 2013 11: 52
        The Amer recently scoffed at this topic with their fighter "Sea Battle", they fought there on the ancient battleship "Missouri" against the aliens. And here the situation really looms, while covered with the darkness of obscurity and secrecy, but this makes it even more curious. Now you can fantasize until you lose your pulse. But I don’t believe in the coincidence "meteorite - sudden exercises" !!!
  11. Maj.
    0
    20 February 2013 08: 07
    The air defense was not shot down, because there is simply no one there, only around Moscow remained !!! request
    1. +1
      20 February 2013 09: 11
      Quote: Major
      The air defense was not shot down, because there is simply no one there, only around Moscow remained !!!


      Can you tell me the type of complex that is capable of intercepting targets at a speed of 11-70 km / s (C-400 missiles, for example, have a speed of 4,8 km / s).

      According to the Treaty, missile defense always existed only around Moscow and the Grand Forks missile base (USA).

      Are the complexes entering service ("go over" the site), in your opinion, go straight "over the hill"?
      1. 0
        20 February 2013 09: 44
        Judging by the video, the speed of the meteorite’s fall is not 11 km / s
      2. +1
        20 February 2013 15: 26
        Defeat aerial targets, a complex process. There are no complexes of hitting targets flying at a speed of more than 5 km / s.
        1. lucidlook
          0
          20 February 2013 18: 41
          In the distant 3, SM-193 and USA-2008 are not considered why?
    2. +1
      20 February 2013 09: 44
      But one of the videos clearly shows that another object is approaching the "meteorite" on the catch-up trajectory and passes through it, after which there is an explosion. What do you think it is?
      1. 0
        20 February 2013 10: 11
        I think it’s just a refraction / reflection of light in the atmosphere or in optics.
        1. +16
          20 February 2013 10: 20
          But it looks effective.
          And here’s another one from Amer’s blogs about this, modders forgive me
          "- What the hell .. in Russia all cameras in wheelbarrows, is this some kind of law?
          - Why so many videos from Russia from cars? , - Why does everything protected .. always happen in Russia? .
          The coolest thing - the Russians recorded the meteorite’s fall from hr .. he knows how many angles,
          and the Americans do not have a record, how the shit..th plane falls on the Pentagon? ?
          And one more, from another forum - Russians even know where meteorites fall.
          Filmed from different points. Their missile defense system exceeds ours by several decades. "

          And if they add news about the exercises to the blogs and write that the paratroopers train with the net to catch the stop hundred million tons of meteorites, then, in principle, the USA can no longer conquer themselves ...

          Well and so have fun and feel proud of our people (c) Zadornov
          I work in the background 09
          Call at about 7:30 a.m. (Moscow time)
          A woman from Chelyabinsk calls in a calm voice, asks where it is possible to order the installation of windows.

          And then in the same calm voice he asks:
          "What happened to the night? The chtoli war has begun?"

          This people cannot be defeated!
          1. +2
            20 February 2013 10: 41
            Quote: klimpopov
            forgive me modders

            You are forgiven! laughing
            Quote: klimpopov
            Their missile defense system exceeds ours by several decades. "

            Build bunkers gentlemen from the USA bully
            Klim hi
            1. +6
              20 February 2013 11: 10
              You are forgiven!

              Thank you
              Klim

              Sash hi

              We’ve gone for bread, let’s go for a walk, let it shake ...
              1. +4
                20 February 2013 12: 04
                Quote: klimpopov

                We’ll go for bread, let’s go for a walk, let’s shake it ..

                You have them there instead of dogs laughing
                Throw a picture on an American site so that their roof completely flew away bully
                1. +4
                  20 February 2013 12: 15
                  He poured vodka to the bear, turned off the reactor, and played the balalaika. At the neighbor the pig ran away from Ukraine (forgot to close the bolcon), doesn’t know what to do, fat remains for three days, we decided to drink vodka together while the bear will play us on the balayka ...
                  1. Vanek
                    +2
                    20 February 2013 12: 39
                    Klim hi

                    What are you doing with Romanov? Zadornov is resting.

                    laughing laughing laughing
                    1. +2
                      20 February 2013 12: 49
                      Wan hi
                      Gracious theme laughing
                      From the latest news
                      Spoiler

                      Maybe even banned laughing
                      1. Vanek
                        +1
                        20 February 2013 13: 06
                        Quote: klimpopov
                        Maybe even banned


                        No, not banned. laughing
              2. +4
                20 February 2013 13: 16
                Do not forget to feed the bear and clean your AK.

                1. Sergh
                  +5
                  20 February 2013 15: 06
                  On one of the forums, the user writes: “But my niece lives in America. He says that when they watched a video at work, colleagues asked me to translate what eyewitnesses say. She translated their "enthusiastic mate" like this: "What a rare cosmic phenomenon!"

                  Well, in Germany, they ate too much poppy:
                  In Germany, YouTube video hosting has banned videos from falling meteorite. As his own correspondent for Expert magazine in Germany Sergey Sumlenny writes in his column, the ban was the right to music that sounds from Chelyabinsk radio sets.
          2. lucidlook
            +1
            20 February 2013 18: 55
            Quote: klimpopov
            Why is everything protected .. always happening in Russia?

            It's five! good Laughed and could not. lol
            In general, if the version about our missile defense system is somehow confirmed, then in the future of Russian diplomacy it will be very difficult to require the United States to curtail or somehow limit its work in this direction.
        2. yorik_gagarin
          0
          20 February 2013 12: 43
          Please look here ...... This is just the refraction of light ..... (MIB)))))
    3. 0
      20 February 2013 15: 22
      Only there were and will be
  12. yorik_gagarin
    +4
    20 February 2013 08: 20
    I can’t get it all right .... how could a piece of rock (metal) shy away ..... On impact, the kinetic energy is an impulse. In the air, of course, he could crack into several parts from heating (already someone on the forum gave an example with stones in the steam room), but where did so much energy come from. (where did the spending fall ???) No guys, I am inclined to think that it was not just a meteoric who was flying.
    1. +1
      20 February 2013 10: 13
      Kinetic energy during braking in dense layers of the atmosphere goes into heat. and if the heating goes fast + wild dynamic loads - the object breaks nafig! This is very similar to an explosion, because going very fast.
      1. yorik_gagarin
        +1
        20 February 2013 12: 20
        And the explosion is the result of what ???? Kinetic energy and dynamic loads can tear the body apart ... but this is not a 200 kton explosion. and not even 5. I agree when a stone, as a result of heating in a fire, "clicks and shatters into several pieces, well, not like this click cannot have a grenade effect. But what kind of object was that, as a result of heating, released so much energy .... a piece of metal? Key phrase in your post: this is very LIKE an explosion I tend to believe more in the version that Bruce flew on this meteorite drilled a well and blew up this damn meteorite)))) !!!!
        1. +1
          20 February 2013 12: 45
          Increase the stone in the bonfire to a mass of a couple of tens of thousands of tons, cool to almost absolute zero (well, he warmed up a little with the sun, degrees by 10 ...) and heat it up sharply, at the same time hammer it with a huge hammer - here you have 200 kilotons.
          Yes, not a piece of metal there ... read the news -
          Ural scientists found out the composition of the Chelyabinsk meteorite. According to RBC, citing an employee of the Ural Federal University named after Boris Yeltsin Viktor Grokhovsky, an hour took to study the discovered pieces of the meteorite.

          “It turned out that the fragments found were real stone meteorites that contained up to ten percent of metallic iron, as well as olivine, sulfite. This is a classic chondrite, one of the most common types of meteorites that have ever landed on our surface. ”

          Stone ... but really a mishmash of stone, oxides, sulfites, phosphates, water, carbon, and more. So is it any wonder that this vigorous mixture exploded under infernal conditions of entry into the atmosphere?
          1. yorik_gagarin
            +1
            20 February 2013 13: 31
            Sorry guys, but I'm a stubborn techie ..... let's take it. Weight 10 kg, speed 000 m per second. Kinetic energy is equal to 20 * 000 ^ 2 J approximately 10 kilotons. Even if all the kinetic energy goes into an explosion, where else 12 ktons ??? Who the fuck ..... I apologize is wrong ..... can I even catch up ?????
            1. 0
              20 February 2013 14: 50
              Mass 10 000 kg speed 20 000 m per second

              The mass in 10 tons is not enough, don't you find? According to estimates, it was several (tens) thousand tons.
              1. Juga
                0
                20 February 2013 15: 12
                You are right, the prikdok turns out much more than ten tons.
                If we take the size of a meteor in the region of 16 meters (as NASA scientists suggest), the density is at least 2,5 g / cm3 (for a stone meteor, for iron-nickel up to 8,8 g / cm3), to simplify, we assume that Since it was in the shape of a ball, then we obtain a pebble volume of ~ 2 m / cube and a weight of ~ 144 tons.
                And this already gives 1 * 072 ^ 10 J.
                1. yorik_gagarin
                  0
                  20 February 2013 19: 30
                  I agree with you tens of thousands of tons, this already looks like the truth (but not like 10 tons, as our RAS stated) this is the first. Second ... we take a density of 8,8. yes or 2.4 (concrete density) It is very unlikely that an object of such density will collapse from contact with our atmosphere (most of it will fall apart into several pieces). Third .... the kinetic energy of a body of such density and speed, let's say, 500 kt. But an explosion is an instant release of energy. To have a kinetic explosion, the body needs to instantly stop, this is how you understand the impact on something "non-soft" well, not like air))) The kinetic energy of the meteorite begins to turn into heat ... well, let it be 2000 degrees. So I think what kind of chemical composition that jumped so much from heating. But if you believe the video above and accept the fact that the falling object collided with something ... then the explosion is obvious ...
                  1. 0
                    20 February 2013 21: 58
                    It is very unlikely that an object of this density will collapse from contact with our atmosphere (the very thing will fall into several pieces) ..
                    Third .... the kinetic energy of a body of such density and speed, let's say, 500 kt. But an explosion is an instant release of energy. To have a kinetic explosion, the body needs to instantly stop, this is how you understand it hitting something "non-soft" well, not like air)))

                    Why? Huge speed, a sharp drop in temperature and pressure, a blow to the air, vibration, etc. The air only seems soft to us. Water also seems soft and pleasant until you jump into it at a speed of 100 km / h. Breaking a leg, arm, neck - like two fingers ...
                    Kinetic meteorite energy begins to turn into heat ...... well, let 2000 degrees

                    And you do not have enough 2000 degrees ??? This is the melting point of platinum in all 1770! Explosive heat, pressure build-up - bang!
                    1. yorik_gagarin
                      0
                      21 February 2013 06: 13
                      What are you talking about ???? what an explosive heat release !!!!! And when melting, your platinum explodes !!!!! When a meteorite falls, it just stupidly heats up like in a stove !!!!! Oxygen burns and the substance evaporates from heating !!!
                      1. 0
                        21 February 2013 09: 55
                        what explosive heat

                        That is, you want to say that an increase in temperature from -150 (let's say it was) to 2000 degrees in 10-15 seconds is not explosive heat generation? I gave platinum as an example of a melting point.
                        When a meteorite falls it just stupidly heats up like in a stove !!!!!

                        No, there’s a gradual warming up in the stove. And here it’s almost instant. Substances evaporate. And this is a multiple increase in volume! There you have it! And not only oxygen burns.
                    2. yorik_gagarin
                      0
                      21 February 2013 06: 51
                      Water also seems soft and pleasant until you jump into it at a speed of 100 km / h
                      The atmosphere is not water ..... it has a different density ..... depending on the distance from the earth ...... in the mountains one in the lowland another. There is no blow like about water .. I expressed my whole opinion ... I will not argue further.
                      1. +1
                        21 February 2013 09: 57
                        He expressed his whole opinion ... I will not argue further.

                        As you wish. The atmosphere is certainly not water, but at speeds greater than 5M it is also not very malleable.
              2. yorik_gagarin
                0
                20 February 2013 18: 34
                What does not mean enough ...... I rely on official sources:Meteor shower in Chelyabinsk took place on February 15, 2013. According to RAS, a meteorite weighing about 10 tons (according to other estimates, 50 tons) entered the atmosphere at a speed of 15–20 km / s. At an altitude of 30-50 km, the celestial body collapsed into several fragments that fell over the Urals. According to NASA, the initial diameter of the meteorite was 17 meters. American experts believe that the meteorite exploded at an altitude of 19-24 km... this is the initial data, and nasa initially also voiced similar numbers, then quickly corrected the melon ones, referring to "the analysis of data from infrasonic tracking stations."
            2. +2
              20 February 2013 20: 32
              The guys weigh not 10 tons, but 10 tons
              1. +3
                20 February 2013 20: 38
                Such a baby
                1. +2
                  20 February 2013 20: 59
                  In principle, this picture is modest, with a diameter of 17 meters, it is a seven-story building, very impressive size, God bless Chelyabinsk.
                  Apparently Chelyabinsk is not Garden and not even Gamorra.

                  In general, cobblestone with this house.
    2. +1
      20 February 2013 11: 48
      At such speeds, and not such a wave will follow, stand near the jet system during firing. And here the speed is many times higher.
      The result was a high-altitude explosion during braking.
      It’s just lucky that the object just below the height did not explode, so not only the windows would fly out.
      But what kind of object remains a question.
      1. yorik_gagarin
        0
        20 February 2013 13: 51
        And the picture is beautiful)))
  13. +1
    20 February 2013 08: 27
    That is, it could not be a meteorite, but something more earthly? Let's see what will happen next.
  14. +1
    20 February 2013 08: 32
    The invasion has begun)))))

    And if, without jokes, there’s nothing to scour for NATO spies, which fell to us, then ours !!!!
    1. +4
      20 February 2013 08: 35
      Quote: JonnyT
      And if, without jokes, there’s nothing to scam for NATO spies,

      Well, there are already NATO spies belay Now there are 7000 paratroopers, NATO agents nervously smoke outside the region.
      1. +1
        20 February 2013 09: 46
        Surely there is how they can leave this without attention.
        1. +1
          20 February 2013 10: 09
          By the way, the topic is http://www.yaplakal.com/forum28/topic541812.html
      2. 0
        20 February 2013 11: 17
        This is of course yes, but when the Tunguska meteorite fell, they found a spy of Hitler’s super secret service in these remote places who didn’t get scorched and ate potassium and took all the secrets to the grave ..... so in any case, the meteorite will be of great interest to adversary ... especially with such a concentration of troops, this will further fuel the interest of all there M-6, the Mossad, the Stasi, the CIA, the FBI (Mulder and Skali)))))))
        1. Volkhov
          +2
          20 February 2013 14: 17
          Quote: JonnyT
          this will further fuel the interest of all kinds of M-6s there, the Mossad, the Shtazi, the CIA, the FBI


          Well, let the mossad stand in a cordon around a radioactive spot, why castrate your landing party?
          1. Volkhov
            +3
            20 February 2013 19: 17
            He wrote on the day of the fall about beta-background, but all comedians and do not care, but here he is ...

            “The sun is actually somehow abnormally bright,” agrees Chelyabinsk Fedor Spiridonov. - Before lunch, I was transported in the courtyard with rabbitry, now my face and hands are baking directly. This happens when you ski in the highlands.

            Until recently, snow-covered trees and roofs of houses now stand bare. The car that exploded at once shook off not only the snow from the houses, but also the icicles that had grown during the winter months.

            Residents of the city noted the ailment of their pets. At the Chelyabinsk Zoo, veterinarians observing animals preferred to stay with their wards on Sundays.

            This is from the article.
            http://www.profinews.com.ua/get.php/49347/anomalnoe-solntse-revyashchij-bolid-i-
            strange-povedenie-zhivotnyih

            Rejoice, patriots, the army will turn red ... and we can’t wage a war with such a wooden leadership ...
            1. 0
              20 February 2013 22: 01
              Not yet such tales will appear. Soon they will sell healing meteorite powder ....
      3. +4
        20 February 2013 15: 33
        the most dangerous mistakes are underestimating the capabilities of the enemy.
        1. lucidlook
          0
          20 February 2013 18: 59
          Right Examples of this (including very sad ones) are mass.
    2. +1
      20 February 2013 13: 23
      Bruce did not work, it's time for experts to call.
  15. +8
    20 February 2013 08: 41
    It's time for the creators of the game, a stalker to do some new things, STALKER "SHADOWS OF FUKUSHIMA" AND STALKER "CALL OF CHIBARKUL", but in general it's good that it exploded in the air, and if it had endured to the ground, then there would have been victims, not victims, and if only to the Mayak , then Chernobyl would probably have a rest.
  16. +12
    20 February 2013 08: 45
    Here it is, the breadth of the Russian soul!
    The Americans would send Mulder and Scali there, and we immediately the Airborne Division! X-files in Russian!soldier
    1. +1
      20 February 2013 15: 16
      Quote: engineer74
      X-files in Russian!


      But this "X" before "files" is short for what? If in Russian? lol
  17. +3
    20 February 2013 09: 21
    I feel again near the city, they’ll chase some thread of demons .. either terrestrial with an English accent or alien Pokémon .. From all over Russia they chose Chebar .. yeah just like that ... well, is there a tank training ground there .. but that they no longer exist in the country? They don’t agree on something ... I don’t believe in such coincidences, at least crack. but I do not believe .. request
  18. dim
    dim
    0
    20 February 2013 09: 23
    last night it seemed to come out like this and where is it now?
  19. DeerIvanovich
    0
    20 February 2013 09: 34
    heh, I recently saw a movie on ren-tv (it's interesting to have a movie), where in slow motion it was shown that just before the explosion, something crashed into the falling meteorite, then a flash from the explosion and then separate pieces fly
  20. +3
    20 February 2013 09: 37
    And to me personally, what fell there on the drum, the crew is alive or not, they will beat their faces or eat them raw together with the rock and the Mulder.

    I am pleased with the other that for the first time in many years, even 7000 people are able to rise and quickly spread, even for 3000 km. So not everyone in the army has been stolen. Yesterday, IL 76 and from the Krasnodar airport started to the northeast. the only thing that alerted the transporter was no identification marks. It's just plain silver, well, except that it gave out light identification signals.
  21. 0
    20 February 2013 10: 06
    The meteorite itself, however, was never found.

    So 7000 paratroopers will find something ...
    1. +2
      20 February 2013 10: 15
      Quote: pav-pon1972
      So 7000 paratroopers will find something.

      Not only hijacked, but also interrogated. laughing
      1. 0
        20 February 2013 11: 30
        Apparently they are looking for a naked Schwartz, after teleportation.
  22. sams
    +4
    20 February 2013 10: 07
    War of the Worlds bully
    We look just below the tail and see a UFO that catches up and crashes into a meteorite, smashes it and goes to the side.


    Medvedev and aliens smile
    1. 0
      20 February 2013 16: 42
      This commentary was especially pleased with the first video on you tube
      The meteorite was brought down outdated system S-300 "favorite". More moschny missile defense systems S-400 "Triumph" protect Moscow, the Kuril Islands, and close the air space of Western Europe in case of NATO aggression. there is a new system S-500 "promitey" capable knock metiorit in space, but it is only the test.
      1. 0
        20 February 2013 16: 48
        Let them be afraid, it is good for them.
  23. 0
    20 February 2013 10: 19
    Choi is more and more interesting. Maybe the meteorite was distracting, but somewhere nearby in a quiet group landed on contacts with our civilization? And lost in the taiga .... and now they will be looking for them ...
    People, and there is nothing suspicious hanging in orbit?
  24. 0
    20 February 2013 10: 35
    Strange meteor, I watched various videos and counted from 12 to 15 explosions, at that a piece of chtoli popcorn.
  25. Sleptsoff
    0
    20 February 2013 10: 54
    How to explain the lack of cellular communications in the region? Can a meteorite give such an effect?
    1. 0
      20 February 2013 12: 47
      Ionization of the lower atmosphere. As a result, signal absorption. We should ask Chelyabinsk residents - was there any local cellular communication? If it was (towers within sight), but there was no external one, then everything falls into place.
  26. Volkhov
    +3
    20 February 2013 11: 01
    The main explosion occurred at a distance of 60 ... 80 km from Chelyabinsk and at the same time the frames were knocked out - that is, the pressure of the UV about 0,02 ... 0,05 bar., but there is a place to the west of Chelyabinsk, under the explosion itself, where the pressure should be more than 1 bar., and this is concussion, the destruction of buildings, fires from light radiation. In addition, during these events, the wave and radiation are directed — a strip of a felled forest and a flare triangle.
    Option of Chernobyl - they also drive the soldiers and hide the circumstances.
    1. +2
      20 February 2013 11: 52
      Quote: Volkhov
      The main explosion occurred at a distance of 60 ... 80 km from Chelyabinsk and at the same time the frames were knocked out - that is, the pressure of the UV about 0,02 ... 0,05 bar.

      and not only iv Yes according to the comments of eyewitnesses, residents of Chelyabinsk, they all felt thermal radiation ... at a distance of 60 ... 80 km (!) interesting energy of this "pebble" bully
      Quote: Volkhov
      Option of Chernobyl - they also drive the soldiers and hide the circumstances.

      drinks
      1. Volkhov
        +3
        20 February 2013 12: 34
        Quote: military
        interesting energy of this "pebble


        The fact of the matter is that not a stone is ice and a synthesis reaction (classical double explosion of a comet) of Sinai and Sahara in black triangles of molten stone from such explosions in antiquity (of greater power).
        Such explosions caused migrations of peoples due to "bitter water" and sterility (primarily livestock), and now, due to ease of management, they do not explain elementary precautions (do not use surface water, cover your face) - it is unpleasant.
        1. 0
          20 February 2013 19: 37
          Quote: Volkhov
          do not explain basic precautions (do not use surface water, cover your face) - it is unpleasant.

          In the evening on the day of the fall, the evening news on "Russia" said that the Emergencies Ministry had warned the population of the Sverdlovsk region. about the possible toxic hazard and asked not to pick up the WASTE of the meteorite. More about the toxic danger was not mentioned anywhere in any news on TV channels, and all the invited scientists began to assure that it was a harmless stone meteorite.
          1. Volkhov
            +1
            20 February 2013 21: 50
            Debris cannot be picked up by chance - these are spheres of no more than 3 mm made of glass or iron (a product of evaporation and condensation) - the problem is precisely in isotopes. Most of the dosimeters are tuned for gamma - background, but here it is beta background, in domestic conditions only photographic paper in a thin wrapper can be detected, but now it is due to "tan" ...
            1. 0
              20 February 2013 22: 12
              and here is a beta background, in everyday conditions only photographic paper in a thin wrapper can be detected, but now it is by the "tan" ...

              Do not scare people, beta radiation, this is nothing more than a stream of electrons or positrons. Penetrating action of not more than a few millimeters! Another question is if you swallow such an object. Then it’s how lucky that is why you will be bent. Or do not bend.
          2. 0
            20 February 2013 22: 04
            Rather, they said that they would not take away the fragments of souvenirs. And all the meteorites found before were sterile. This exception is unlikely.
      2. 0
        20 February 2013 12: 49
        interesting energy of this "pebble"

        Infrared radiation, though very powerful.
    2. Bashkaus
      0
      20 February 2013 12: 25
      I repeat once again, my explanation is that they were shot down by a nuclear charge)) Then everything is explained, and the loss of cellular communications and a bright flash and paratroopers who will plant a felled forest on a new one
      1. Volkhov
        +1
        20 February 2013 12: 42
        Since the 8th century, there have been no suitable nuclear charges in Russia - the latter was burned in the Irkutsk region.
        1. 0
          20 February 2013 13: 02
          Eeeee .... since the 8 century ???? belay
          1. Volkhov
            +1
            20 February 2013 14: 25
            Such explosions used to occur more often, so there was a technique - if you repeat Chelyabinsk annually, you will also want to do something. This was a whole branch of science and industry.
      2. 0
        20 February 2013 12: 51
        I don’t agree with you - they didn’t bring me down - nothing. It exploded itself. Teachings - fill the face of the meteorite crew with knocked out windows and many injured! smile
    3. yorik_gagarin
      0
      20 February 2013 13: 54
      Guys, I say the kinetic energy of this body is small for such an explosion !!!!!!!
      They lie.
      1. Volkhov
        +2
        20 February 2013 14: 02
        It is not only small, but also cannot stand out without an "anvil" - another solid body, as when hitting the moon, although there is not only kinetics there.
  27. +1
    20 February 2013 11: 11
    We will find, we will warm, we will feed, we will give to drink, we will interrogate "as people".
  28. +1
    20 February 2013 11: 32
    Apparently they are looking for a naked Schwartz, after teleportation. wink
  29. lucidlook
    0
    20 February 2013 11: 38
    It looks like a dud after a puncture. They could spot this object and spot it, but they did not have time to react promptly, they could not. Now they will work out.
  30. 0
    20 February 2013 11: 46
    Quote from Sleptsoff
    How to explain the lack of cellular communications in the region? Can a meteorite give such an effect?


    usual overload of the channel, in Siberia when it shook a little, the cellular also stopped working
  31. dim
    dim
    0
    20 February 2013 13: 04
    I already asked a question. even no one answered and last night a similar article was? really in the evening no one looked at the site
    1. 0
      20 February 2013 15: 23
      Quote: dim
      and last night

      about it ?
      Chelyabinsk race car demonstrated our vulnerability to space threat.
      http://topwar.ru/index.php?newsid=24352
  32. 0
    20 February 2013 13: 40
    It is strange that there is no video from satellites and micros. A strange story, and even unscheduled teachings, and the loss of connection with the ISS. strange ...
    1. +1
      20 February 2013 15: 20
      Do not give the Almighty if it is!
      So they knew where to shoot !!!
      In general, as in the budget blockbuster, Hollywood may sue for unauthorized use of the script. Copyright Infringement however !!!
  33. +2
    20 February 2013 19: 47
    Well, that you are all like children, what has fallen, but what is gone. Glybja needs to be looked at. Russia and Kazakhstan have agreed on Baikonur, Kazakhstan will now independently use part of the cosmodrome infrastructure. And Kazakhstan has long had its own space project, Baiterek (" poplar ") is called. Here the Kazakhs are happy that they got a cosmodrome and fired something into space, but it can be seen from a lack of experience that not everything has grown together. Where did the object come from, eh? From Kazakhstan! And now the Airborne Forces are looking for an astronaut to lather his neck for such a grandiose nix. Heard a song about cosmonaut Khabibulin: "You, Sokol, it's mine, you, Sokol! Remember, you Sokol, ram!" This is about that very thing.
  34. R1a1
    0
    20 February 2013 22: 58
    Ladies and Gentlemen. I apologize for not having time to respond to comments and intervene in the conversation. There were reasons. But since I was the author of the article, I could not pass over the article in silence, even with a delay I write the following:

    Once again, I pay attention to the video: [media = http: //youtu.be/fj8ZzTbdcRc]
    http://youtu.be/fj8ZzTbdcRc

    Here you can probably never see this article anywhere else. Its author SMERSH:

    Counterintelligence press conference: "In the interests of the safety of the Fatherland. From studying UFOs to searching for contacts with aliens"

    On Tuesday, an unusual press conference was held in Moscow: "In the interests of the safety of the Fatherland. From studying UFOs and seeking contacts with aliens to preventing terrorist attacks." The Chelyabinsk "meteorite" prompted the counterintelligence officers to contact the press. In the near future they are going to write to Putin: they have already orally addressed a press conference and asked the president to help financially in the further study of extraterrestrial civilizations.

    The main sensation of the press conference was the story of Lieutenant General of the Reserve, former head of the expert department of the General Staff, Doctor of Philosophy, Academician of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences Alexei Savin. During the Soviet era, he participated in research under the guidance of renowned neurophysiologist Natalia Bekhtereva. Three experimental groups were created: the first included the military, the second - scientists, and the third - ordinary women. All of them, using certain methods, were prepared for contacts with alien intelligence. The first two groups did not make contact, but six women managed to communicate with the aliens after a year and a half of training. According to the retired lieutenant general, the brain cells of the women were affected in a certain way, after which they found several aliens from other planets among us. “We thought the aliens would tell us something, help us with something,” Alexei Savin sighed. And it became clear that the aliens did not suggest anything worthwhile and did not help.

    What exactly the aliens told the Soviet counterintelligence is still a military secret. It is only known that the Soviet Union collapsed shortly after this communication session.

    continuation of the author's test:

    Along with it, alien research has also bent. Now, in the opinion of generals and scientists, a whole state program is needed. "Until recently, paranormal abilities were taught at the Gagarin Academy in Zhukovsky, until Serdyukov dispersed the academy. All the specialists fled. Where can they be gathered now? The building was given to another owner," Aleksey Savin was upset.

    But after all, it was a stone's throw to contacts with aliens - it’s enough to adjust the human brain circuit to a certain wave, and in a year and a half, if it does not come into contact with an alien mind, then it will certainly become a genius, it will have super memory and speed reading skills.

    Whether Putin gives money or not, development will continue anyway. Lieutenant General Savin said that a "control group" has already been recruited for contacts with aliens.

    However, Major General of the FSB, academician of the Academy of Security, Defense and Law Enforcement Problems, chairman of the Air Force Counterintelligence Veterans Fund Vasily Eremenko Savina did not support. According to Eremenko, in Soviet times, he was also instructed to engage in UFOs. Together with scientists and the military, he traveled around the training grounds. A large number of different equipment was installed and large-scale studies were carried out.
    1. R1a1
      0
      20 February 2013 23: 10
      Continued:
      As a result, it turned out the following: "Various unidentified flying objects appear precisely during the period of active operations related to weapons. It is worth several times to increase the number of military equipment at the test site, increase the number of sorties, start carrying out some new tests - a UFO will certainly arrive. you can see it with the eye, but not with the locator. Or vice versa. Sometimes it seems visually that the object seems to be here, but the locator shows that it is moving. Before you have time to look around, it appears behind you. " In the Soviet Union, the Major General explained, they were inclined to the version that these elusive UFOs were reconnaissance devices of developed countries, most likely Japan and the United States. And yet "personally, as a person, I believe in aliens," Vasily Eremenko admitted in the end.
      1. R1a1
        0
        20 February 2013 23: 13
        Exploding meteorites falling all over the Earth

        Over the past few days, falling and exploding fireballs have been seen in many countries around the world - in Russia, Kazakhstan, Japan, Australia, Cuba, South Africa, Morocco, Germany, Switzerland, northern Italy, Holland, Belgium, Britain ...

        - A luminous ball resembling a meteor was seen on Sunday night by several people in the districts of Miami Dade and Broward (USA) on February 18, 2013. “Looking at the Bay of Biscay, I saw a falling object,” says Brad Greenberg of Miami, 30, on his Twitter at about 18.30 pm “At first glance, the object was dimly lit and moving fast, but not as fast as a shooting star.”

        - A witness from Australia, February 18: “I shot something like a meteorite in the sky above Melbourne - it was several hours ahead of the appearance of the asteroid”

        - Witness from Britain, February 17: “A red luminous dot quickly moved over Manchester at about 16 p.m.”

        - A witness from Timor, February 17: “I sat in the car tonight and for a few milliseconds I saw incredibly bright light in the sky ... I was in East Timor”

        - Witness from Australia, February 16: “A meteor was spotted over Melton in Australia. It looked like a bunch of four stars with a clearly visible tail. "He occupied almost a third of the field of view of two observers and was in the sky for many seconds."

        - A fireball was also seen in the United States. Witnesses report a ball of fire crossing the sky over the San Francisco Bay Area. He was visible around 12.45 on February 16, 2013.
  35. R1a1
    0
    20 February 2013 23: 14
    Continued:

    - Most people only heard about the explosion of the Russian fireball. The first messages appeared on February 15 at about one in the morning. During the morning, the Russian military discovered a six-meter crater, and it was reported that the surrounding radiation background of the area was normal. The Russian Academy of Sciences reported that a meteor weighed about ten tons before entering the Earth’s atmosphere, but some reports claim 50 tons. The meteorite exploded 9 times, starting at an altitude of about 55 kilometers. The Russian meteor is the largest since 1908, when the famous Tunguska meteorite fell in Siberia. The impact energy of the 2013 meteorite was several hundred kilotons. Data is still being received and refinement of the available information is possible. According to currently available data, the size of the object before entering the atmosphere was 15 meters, and its mass was about 7 thousand tons. The meteor, whose size was approximately one third of the diameter of the 2012 DA14 asteroid, shone brighter than the Sun, and its trace was observed for almost 30 seconds.

    - Late in the afternoon of February 15, Cuban residents noticed another bright ball of fire that exploded over a city in the province of Sienfuego.

    - An exploding fireball was also seen in the sky over Japan on February 14 and filmed:

    - A huge ball of fire was seen by many eyewitnesses over Belgium, Holland and Germany on February 13, 2013. It could be observed for 10-20 seconds. According to one eyewitness, in flight he split twice. It is possible that these were parts of the Russian Soyuz rocket. The fact is that on February 11, 2013, the 1800th launch of the Soyuz rocket was carried out from the Baikonur Cosmodrome. Arianspace and its Russian partners reported that the Progress cargo vehicle was neatly placed in a given orbit for the mission of the International Space Station.

    NASA statement on the Russian meteor:

    “According to NASA scientists, the trajectory of the Russian meteorite was significantly different from the trajectory of the asteroid 2012 DA14, which makes it an absolutely unrelated object. Information about the Russian meteorite is still being received, and all conclusions are currently preliminary. The fall video shows that the object flies from left to right against the backdrop of the rising sun, which means that it was moving from north to south. The asteroid DA14 is moving in the opposite direction, from south to north. ”
  36. R1a1
    0
    20 February 2013 23: 31
    And then there is a whole article on this topic, which I tried to publish, two days ago, here, but it was hacked to death. Probably correct. But the facts are only growing. For example, about the same wormwood. They won't find anything there) Have you ever stewed a hot frying pan in cold water? As a geologist, I am telling you this. There would be a trace of splashes of melted ice scattered on the sides four times more. Pits, holes, not evenly edge, throw a hot pan in boiling oil into hot water ... Well, now carefully study the Chebarkul funnel) This is not the Lord's funnel) And there are reptilians. And really someone was shot down. Shot down not by accident. Not our air defense, but our friends with birch eyes. And the fact that we have the same friends with "magic" cylinders on guard and they constantly monitor everything, they try not to talk about it. By the way, our blue-eyed ones appeared much earlier) Something serious begins. Perhaps we really better not know about this? Reptilians are not ours, ours are there and there are enough of them, space is like a city, if quite simply, there is a pair of every creature. Can we really get scared? Or can we not scare us with anything and tell the truth? I would say that the people at least have prepared, our people. Our minimum.
    1. Volkhov
      +1
      21 February 2013 08: 56
      If this topic is so interesting to you, then try not to start with external impressions, but first look at the materials on the explosion of comets - all this has already been studied in the basic elements, the Chelyabinsk case only supplements.
      What seems to you to be knocking down is part of the natural explosion process - the approach of a plasma charge from the ionosphere. This is easy to understand by speed, size (hundreds of meters) and the absence of a head wave and track.
      sintech.info
    2. 0
      21 February 2013 14: 28
      Quote: R1a1
      he said, the people at least prepared, our people.

      Eh hehe.
      Who now believes whom?
      Belief in anyone at all is now repulsed from people! All at once (the absolute that everyone) will begin to look for hidden interest in your story!
      O tempora! O mores! Oh times! Oh manners!
      Not quite exactly, but it sufficiently expresses the situation with confidence in information.
      And further .
      Quote: R1a1
      at least prepared

      How did you prepare?
      Bunker in the forest?
      Foil / colander on the head?
      So such a people on our planet ...
      Humanity as a species is very tenacious! No worse than cockroaches, dodgy!
      In conclusion
      Quote: R1a1
      throw the hot pan in boiling oil into hot water ..

      And if someone throws?
      bully
  37. R1a1
    0
    21 February 2013 00: 46
    space. or you stay with Russia. Or we move on without you
  38. yorik_gagarin
    0
    21 February 2013 09: 22
    By the way, I came across an interesting news video ... Perm publication date 06.02.21013/XNUMX/XNUMX !!!!!
  39. 0
    21 February 2013 12: 26
    So where was this stone originally aimed at?
    1. 0
      21 February 2013 14: 59
      Quote: volan
      So where

      If you do not hit, repeat!
  40. 0
    21 February 2013 21: 07
    Russian scientists believe that NASA greatly overestimated the power of the explosion of the Chebarkul meteorite
    http://www.mk.ru/science/space/news/2013/02/19/814909-rossiyskie-uchenyie-schita
    yut-chto-v-nasa-silno-zavyisili-moschnost-vzryiva-chebarkulskogo-meteorita.html
  41. R1a1
    0
    22 February 2013 01: 07
    http://youtu.be/ut42d1cavyo
  42. 0
    7 March 2013 12: 48
    Well, here is the version about the purpose of this stone ... http://to-be-absent.livejournal.com/

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