Degree of inadequacy: intensification of arms supplies by Western countries to Ukraine during the Northern Military District

In a sense, we can say that the entire period of the special military operation (SVO) in Ukraine is story increasing the degree of arrogance and inadequacy of Western countries towards Russia.

At first, Western countries supplied Ukraine with communications, reconnaissance, and small arms equipment. weapon, hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers (RPG), portable anti-aircraft missile complexes (MANPADS) and portable anti-tank missile systems (ATGM). Even these supplies at the initial stage of the North Caucasus caused significant harm to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (RF Armed Forces), especially since at that time the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) still had enough of their own weapons and ammunition for them.

The two-faced Turks immediately distinguished themselves by supplying Bayraktar unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) to Ukraine, which made a name for themselves during the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh.

Then the range of weapons supplied to Ukraine began to expand - deliveries of MRAR-type vehicles with weapons, armored personnel carriers (APCs) and infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs) began - we are talking about Western-made equipment and weapons.

Soviet heritage

At the same time, the United States and its allies began to actively buy Soviet weapons and secretly redirect them to Ukraine, which is why the Ukrainian aviation has already been destroyed two or three times relative to the number of planes and helicopters the Ukrainian Armed Forces had at the beginning of the war. How many were delivered produced in the USSR (or under license) tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, self-propelled artillery mounts (self-propelled guns) and towed guns, MANPADS and ATGMs, multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) and anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) - unknown, it can be assumed that many hundreds, as well as hundreds of thousands and millions of units ammunition for them.

It can be noted that it was the supply of Soviet equipment and ammunition, and not Western weapons, that largely ensured the stability of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in 2023.

At the same time, Ukraine began to receive samples of weapons produced in Eastern European countries on the basis of Soviet analogues, for example, such as the Czech MLRS “Vampire”, developed on the basis of the MLRS BM-21 “Grad”, which the Ukrainian Armed Forces are actively using for attacks on Belgorod and other Russian cities.

These “Vampires” drank Russian blood, from the Czech Republic we have to ask special questions for them, according to the principle of “an eye for an eye”

At the moment, the United States is actively continuing the search for the “Soviet legacy” around the world, in return they promise to supply Western-made weapons, including those from the US Armed Forces. For the United States, such deals are doubly beneficial, since they not only support Ukraine, but also create new markets for spare parts and service for the US defense industry, and tie these countries to themselves.

Components for UAVs and BEC

One of the most serious problems of the Ukrainian Armed Forces has become the shortage of aircraft, ships and long-range precision weapons (HPE). It is worth giving the enemy his due - Ukraine largely compensated for the lack of aviation and long-range military equipment with the help of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) - kamikazes, and ships - with the help of unmanned boats (BEC) - kamikazes.

Of course, such things do not arise in a vacuum; American and British specialists, most likely from Turkey, and perhaps also specialists from other European countries, clearly had a hand in the creation of Ukrainian kamikaze UAVs and BEC-kamikazes. Also, European countries have established uninterrupted supplies of components for such UAVs and UAVs.

To a certain extent, this also applies to FPV.drones, which largely replaced RPGs, ATGMs, and partly MANPADS on the battlefield. Ukraine, most likely, copes with the development of FRU drones on its own, but the supply of components is provided by Western countries, and also by Eastern countries, including our “allies”, what can we hide - there is no smell of money.

Rђ RІRѕS, the fact that the Ukrainian industry is still provided with electricity in order for all these industries to function is already our fault.

Anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM)

Deliveries of air defense systems began with portable systems, gradually the list expanded more and more.

First, anti-aircraft artillery complexes (ZAK), including those with remote detonation of projectiles on the trajectory, then short- and medium-range air defense systems, including the fairly modern IRIS-T and NASAMS air defense systems, with their AIM-9 Sidewinder and AIM-120 air-to-air missiles, adapted for launch from ground-based launchers (PU).

Finally, Ukraine was supplied with American Patriot air defense systems, which many hat-throwing experts had previously constantly slandered. In fact, apart from the monstrously expensive anti-aircraft guided missiles (SAMs), these systems are quite effective.

Their underestimation resulted in extremely painful losses. Almost certainly it was an Il-76 transport plane with Ukrainian prisoners of war; we will not talk about other losses, since the Russian Ministry of Defense does not confirm them, and does not voice the reasons for the losses of certain aircraft.

In Ukraine, Patriot air defense systems were sometimes fired in almost “bursts”, expending hundreds of millions of dollars worth of ammunition in seconds

Some time ago we talked about Ukraine's air defense has become a little stronger, but much weaker, implying that a significant part of the Soviet-made air defense systems were knocked out by the Russian Armed Forces, and supplies from Western countries could not quantitatively compensate for the losses, even despite the fairly high quality of the Western-made air defense systems, no matter how various experts and haters squealed.

What will happen if the supply of air defense systems to Western countries increases significantly?

If the Ukrainian Armed Forces prove that they can isolate combat areas - create A2AD zones (anti-access and area denial - restriction and prohibition of access and maneuver), then other air defense systems may also be delivered to Ukraine (Defense), eg, laser weapons, which are already being supplied to the US Armed Forces, or microwave weapon, still undergoing testing.

Artillery and MLRS

The next stage of escalation was the supply of long-range Western-made artillery systems of 155 mm caliber, such as the French self-propelled gun Cesar, the German self-propelled gun PZ-2000, the Polish self-propelled gun Krab, and the American transportable howitzer M-777. Western countries have a limited number of unguided artillery shells - their mass production is only just beginning, but American Excalibur guided artillery shells, with a range of up to 70 kilometers, have become quite a serious threat to the Russian Armed Forces.

Recently, there has been noticeably less information about effective enemy strikes using Excalibur shells; it is possible that Russian electronic warfare systems have learned to suppress them (EW), if so, then this is no reason to relax – the US may well modernize the Excalibur shells.

HIMARS MLRS with GMRLS guided missiles of 227 mm caliber, with a firing range of about 100 kilometers, have become and remain an even greater threat. It is possible that the United States has already supplied Ukraine with ER GMRLS 254 mm caliber guided missiles with a firing range of up to 150–200 kilometers - they are used with the same HIMARS MLRS in packages of 6 missiles.

The United States supplies the APU and GLSDB small-diameter gliding bombs launched from the HIMARS MLRS with the help of an accelerating engine with a firing range of up to 150 kilometers. Data on the effectiveness of GLSDB vary - according to some sources, their effectiveness is very high, according to others, they are susceptible to the influence of Russian electronic warfare systems.

Potentially GLSDB gliding bombs with a jet accelerator can be very dangerous; their Russian analogue UMPB (universal gliding interspecific munition) causes significant damage to the Ukrainian Armed Forces

As a separate level of escalation, we can highlight the beginning of Western countries supplying ammunition with cluster warheads, which led to an increase in the number of civilian casualties.

Tanks

Despite loud, enthusiastic announcements and high expectations from the enemy, the appearance of Western-made tanks on the battlefield did not change anything.

Moreover, the German “Leopards”, British “Challengers” and American “Abrams” significantly spoiled their reputation, as we had previously assumed. Didn't even help modernization with the help of Soviet dynamic protection, which the Ukrainian Armed Forces began to install on both German Leopard tanks and American Abrams.

American Abrams tank equipped with Soviet dynamic protection

Now, when the Ukrainian Armed Forces do not have any forces for an offensive, Western-made tanks are mostly sitting in the rear. It can be assumed that they could realize their offensive impulse only with open air support from NATO countries, otherwise they would face a mediocre death on the line of combat contact (LCC).

Cruise and tactical missiles

So, the red lines were once again crossed, Western countries began supplying long-range cruise missiles (CR) to Ukraine - the British Storm Shadow and the French Scalp-EG, and there is no doubt that these missiles caused significant damage to our country. The Germans are still holding out on the supply of Taurus missiles, but sooner or later they will catch up.

Having waited for the required dramatic pause after the start of deliveries of the Storm Shadow and Scalp-EG missiles, and without seeing any clear reaction from Russia, the United States began deliveries of ATACMS operational-tactical missiles (OTR). Their range reaches 300 kilometers; in the future, it is possible that the most modern OTR PrSM with a range of over 500 kilometers will also reach Ukraine.

The next possible step is supply of stealth missiles JASSM-ER. In this case, the risks for Russian industrial facilities and infrastructure will increase significantly - unlike the low-power warheads of kamikaze UAVs, the specified JASSM-ER missiles carry warheads weighing over 400 kilograms. There is a risk of destroying entire branches of high-tech weapons production - as if industry would have to be transferred again, only now not to the Urals, but to the Far East.

Aviation

The supply of combat aircraft is a long-standing dream cherished by Kiev, and it seems that it is close to realization. With a probability of up to one hundred percent, F-16 fighters will be sent to Ukraine, initially several dozen aircraft, but in the future their number may exceed a hundred.

Recently, the French degenerate President Emmanuel Macron announced the delivery of Mirage-2000 fighters to Ukraine, and the Swedes periodically talk about sending their Saab JAS 39 Gripen fighters. The Swedes are also ready to transfer two of their ASC 890 long-range radar detection and control (AWACS) aircraft to Ukraine. Many misleading articles and posts have again appeared on the Internet about how quickly these aircraft will be shot down. Maybe this will be the case, or it is possible that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will keep them in the rear and significantly reduce the effectiveness of strikes inflicted by Russian low-altitude, long-range, high-precision weapons.

Mirage-2000 is far from the most powerful air fighter, but an effective platform for launching the Scalp-EG missile system

Earlier we talked about the fact that NATO AWACS aircraft and supplies of NASAMS air defense systems to Ukraine will close low altitudes for Russian aviation, now the Armed Forces of Ukraine use data from AWACS aircraft of NATO countries patrolling the airspace within the borders of Poland and Romania - the visibility range of their radar is limited, but even today, judging by open data, we almost do not strike with long-range precision weapons in Western Ukraine, about aviation and there is no need to say that Russian planes almost never fly beyond the LBS.

Their own AWACS aircraft will allow the Ukrainian Armed Forces to expand the zone of destruction of Russian low-flying cruise missiles and kamikaze UAVs all the way to Kyiv, and even further, while their AWACS aircraft will be in relative safety.

An AWACS aircraft is always good for those who have it

And from time to time they can move towards the LBS and carry out coordinated attacks on our tactical aviation aircraft, which use aerial bombs with unified planning and correction modules (UMPC), as well as combat helicopters. The combination of AWACS aircraft with modern radars, fairly modern F-16 fighters and air-to-air missiles of the AIM-120 type is very dangerous, especially considering that all these machines can interact perfectly with each other, and some modifications of AIM-120 missiles have a firing range of up to 180 kilometers.

Aircraft basing in Poland and foreign contingents in Ukraine

The next serious round of escalation is the proposed introduction of foreign contingents into the territory of Ukraine, first into its western part to train Ukrainian Armed Forces fighters and replace them in secondary areas, for example, on the border of Ukraine and Belarus - this idea was first voiced by the aforementioned “militant cockerel” Macron.

Of course, in fact, military personnel and mercenaries of NATO countries have been on the territory of Ukraine for a long time, but their direct and open presence is already an actual participation in the war, a direct clash between Russia and NATO countries, and there is no doubt that they will reach the front line , however, they are already there, just raise the flags.

Another initiative is the proposed basing of at least some of the Ukrainian F-16 fighters in Poland. We talked about the fact that they could do this back in January of this year in the material F-16s will strike soon - we must be prepared.

“...In addition, NATO countries can get out of it, for example, from bases in Romania or Poland, F-16 fighters will take off unarmed, then make a short landing at Ukrainian airfields - refuel, arm themselves, maybe even exchange the Polish pilot for a Ukrainian one , and then take off and perform combat work. And that’s it, formally the flights are coming from the territory of Ukraine - we didn’t strike Poland or Germany because they began transporting damaged Ukrainian armored vehicles there for repairs? So the planes - they were fired, a short landing, a change of pilot and to Poland for maintenance - what will we do then?..”

Intelligence, control and communications

From the very beginning of the North Military District, Ukraine has been fighting at the expense of the intelligence, control and communications resources of NATO countries. It is with their help that attacks on military and civilian targets, on ships of the Black Sea fleet and the Crimean Bridge, against targets on the LBS and deep in Russian territory.

This is the most important support provided by NATO countries to Ukraine, and right now the United States and its allies are pumping up these systems in a real high-intensity conflict.

Conclusions

The degree of escalation is increasing - while our enemies are acting, we are conducting exercises that are unlikely to make any impression on them, of course, if these exercises are not a cover for the real deployment of tactical nuclear charges.

Unwillingness to act toughly and even cruelly can cost us dearly - there are ways to inflict significant damage on the United States and its allies, we have discussed them many times before, the only question is the readiness to stop the presumptuous boors.

Comments

[Vladimir_2U]

Once again, we see that failures in foreign policy (inadequacy and toothlessness of work with Ukraine before the Northern Military District, plus the shame of the “red lines”) and military policy (obvious negative selection in the leadership of the Defense Ministry and beyond) are causing the blood of the Russian Army and the people. The only saving grace is that Russia inherited the USSR in the form of the Strategic Missile Forces and bases for storing weapons and ammunition.

[Griffith]

Once again, we see that failures in foreign policy (inadequacy and toothlessness of work with Ukraine before the Northern Military District, plus the shame of the “red lines”) and military policy (obvious negative selection in the leadership of the Defense Ministry and beyond) are causing the blood of the Russian Army and the people. The only saving grace is that Russia inherited the USSR in the form of the Strategic Missile Forces and bases for storing weapons and ammunition.

We must not forget that there is also a clear negative selection in NATO. What is the mandatory quota in the NATO troops and military leadership for representatives of LGBT and other minorities worth? Of course, you can wave a saber, as the author advises, and the whole world into dust. But for this, the world majority must be convinced of the complete inadequacy of Western leaders. Then you can also blow the whole world into dust.
Of course, shooting mad dogs wouldn't hurt either. Unfortunately, most likely the West tried to prevent this from happening when, in 1992, it began to introduce its lackeys into various positions in Russia.
There are serious breakdowns in the leadership of Russia along the way, after all, they were under arrest for 30 years, as if on drugs.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Griffit

We must not forget that there is also a clear negative selection going on in NATO.

It’s little consolation, it smacks of victory in the taming, if only because the homoczyna is not only made up of idiots. And the same deputy for property management of the RF Ministry of Defense was not “one of these”, he just didn’t bring any benefit to Russia, to put it mildly...

[Ross xnumx]

Unwillingness to act toughly and even cruelly can cost us dearly

The lack of desire to act toughly and even brutally costs Russians dearly, especially those who live in the zone affected by Western weapons.
Two entrances to houses in Belgorod have already been destroyed. What to expect next? Destruction of houses in Moscow?
I look at the advertisement for “Scarlet Sails” in S-P... Some strange analogy with:

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True, it is unlikely that the enemy, seeing the celebration, will tremble with fear. He will try to do some nasty thing...

[carpenter]

Quote: ROSS 42

True, it is unlikely that the enemy, seeing idleness, will tremble with fear. He'll try to do something nasty...

This is the whole essence of Ukrainianness, which was created over centuries by the Poles, Austrians and Turks.

[Dutchman Michel]

Once again we see that failures in the external

Failures not only in foreign policy, but also the lack of propaganda directed against the enemy. I am sure that in the West there are media on which intelligence services have the opportunity to somehow operate. So, there is nothing anti-Ukrainian there, but there is RT, broadcasting in many languages, but there is nothing there either, except for the primitive cheap stuff that is made up of some poorly educated warrant officers from the Ministry of Defense. There are no anti-Ukrainian statements from famous sports figures, artists, or simply from well-known and respected people in the West who can say anything for money. This indicates that there is no work being done in this direction at all.

[Griffith]

Failures not only in foreign policy, but also the lack of propaganda directed against the enemy. I am sure that in the West there are media on which intelligence services have the opportunity to somehow operate. So, there is nothing anti-Ukrainian there, but there is RT, broadcasting in many languages, but there is nothing there either, except for the primitive cheap stuff that is made up of some poorly educated warrant officers from the Ministry of Defense. There are no anti-Ukrainian statements from famous sports figures, artists, or simply from well-known and respected people in the West who can say anything for money. This indicates that there is no work being done in this direction at all.

Yeah. And there was no interview with Tucker Putin. This is all the work of the Ministry of Defense. Can I ask a question? Have you personally watched all the RT channels in foreign languages ​​to express your opinion? It's surprising that such a polyglot forgot to comment on VO? Or did he just want to say something? Probably his knowledge of foreign languages ​​is so-so, close to zero.

[Deon59]

After Takeras' interview with Putin, the West, "out of fear," began to strike deep into Russia with the help of Ukraine.

[karabas-barabas]

Quote: Dutchman Michel

lack of propaganda directed against the enemy

In Germany, as many as two parties are promoting the Kremlin’s narratives, in the USA there is an entire former president and a lot of journalists and publications like Carlson and Alex Jones who are more for the Kremlin than for Ukraine.

[Dutchman Michel]

rather for the Kremlin than for Ukraine

In the case of them, you can’t talk like that. For them, the Kremlin is just a fellow traveler towards their goals. Di and feed them, probably, too

[karabas-barabas]

And what, downvotes, I answered the question that there is no propaganda, but it is perfectly broadcast live, on 1 channel in all Western media.

[Magic archer]

If the Saloreich gets a full-fledged air force, then the border area will become generally bad.... The same Mirages will operate at a jump from bases in Poland... And we will have to react to this somehow. Or hit home airfields or wash yourself with blood. And this could lead to direct confrontation with a NATO member. And then World War 3 could begin...

[carpenter]

Quote: Magic Archer

And this could lead to direct confrontation with a NATO member. And then World War 3 could begin...

This is what scares us. And the question is: “despite the media tension, will the West escalate to the Third World War, or will they quickly calm down if they get hit in the face at their own airfields?”

[Uncle lee]

Unwillingness to act toughly and even cruelly can cost us dearly

If there is something to do...

[andrewkor]

The current situation and its inevitable escalation are a direct result of the unclear start and subsequent delay of the SVO. At the beginning of the operation, large-scale international exercises were taking place in the Far East at the same time, how could these forces and means be useful in Donbass! Then, once again, the West deceived Putin with all sorts of "Minsk agreements" and "bread deals". And again Putin started talking about negotiations!
Either downvote or bante, but the situation is only getting worse every day, despite the liberated villages.

[Griffith]

The current situation and its inevitable escalation are a direct result of the unclear start and subsequent delay of the North Military District. At the beginning of the operation, large-scale international exercises were taking place simultaneously in the Far East, as if these forces and means would be useful in the Donbass! Then, once again, the West deceived Putin with all sorts of “Minsk agreements” and “grain deals”. And again Putin started a barrel organ about negotiations!
Either downvote or bante, but the situation is only getting worse every day, despite the liberated villages.

How categorical. Are you so categorical in your personal life too? To yourself and to your surroundings? I advise you to try. After all, what is the main rule? Before you demand from others, first demonstrate it yourself.
Firstly. Regarding negotiations. If you look carefully, Putin has been constant and predictable in terms of negotiations at least since 2007, when he made his Munich speech.
Secondly. In 2014, for some unknown reason, Putin and the Russian leadership made, in my opinion as a layman, a very big mistake by recognizing the transitional power in Ukraine after the Maidan. Maybe they overestimated the West, maybe themselves, but having seized Crimea, Putin had to introduce troops into Eastern Ukraine and through Crimea into Odessa. To protect the Russians. And there was a justification, since the first law that the junta adopted was about the abolition of the Russian language. Moreover, Yanukovych's resignation in the Verkhovna Rada after the coup was carried out in violation of the law. The Americans covered this point six months later by organizing the elections of Poroshenko. And on the Russian side, the oligarchs decided the issues. How history would have developed if the Russians had introduced troops into Ukraine, no one knows, but Putin, having taken Crimea, stopped. And this is a very, even a super-big mistake, in my opinion.
Thirdly, hindsight is everything. I am sure that most Russians who are now criticizing the government didn't give a damn when the coup happened in Ukraine in 2014, because it didn't affect them. This is the truth, whether someone likes it or not.
Fourthly. I can understand the indignation of those who are in the SVO zone in 2014 or now. But from armchair commentators, indignation sounds too hypocritical.

[2 Level Advisor]

Having read your message, I understood his idea as the phrase “don’t dare anyone to doubt the Leader”... but let me ask - why shouldn’t the people evaluate the actions of their own - whom they chose, the Leader? Do we have all the Emperor's Sardaukars by default?
“fanaticism is commitment to any beliefs or views taken to the extreme, intolerance to any other views..”
and if you have fanatical faith in the Leader, then you don’t need to distribute it to everyone, they will somehow figure out the pros/cons themselves, looking at their actions.. and no one is stopping you from fanaticizing further..
P.S. Based on your other messages, you can see the repetition of thoughts from TV - this explains a lot ..

[Non-fighter]

In relation to Crimea, exemplary sanctions were immediately introduced, isolating Crimea from card payment systems, and also restricting the supply of electronics to us. How many times did Luna-25 take off, how many times was the launch moved to the right, and what was the result? This was widely reported in the press.
Regarding payment systems, how did Crimeans pay in 2014 and beyond? Now scale the instant refusal of payment systems throughout the country. This is a catastrophe. I remind you that in 2022 Visa and MasterCard ran away from us, dropping their slippers faster than the Americans from Afghanistan. And this is over 70% of payments as of February 2022. We were saved by the presence of our own national end-to-end payment system “Mir”, which did not exist in 2014. And they made an analogue of Swift for interbank banking.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: andrewkor

At the beginning of the operation, large-scale international exercises were taking place simultaneously in the Far East, how these forces and means would be useful in the Donbass!

And in August 2022, the International Army Games “Army-2022” were held, just before the Kharkov offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. You said everything correctly

despite the liberated villages.

The Germans, too, in 1918, carried out a relatively successful spring offensive, but did not achieve a turning point, and then, after just six months, the Allies pressed on with numbers, with the help of the arriving Yankees. So local successes, in the form of captured villages, have little effect on the overall course of the war. The front has not been broken, but time passes

[Russian jacket]

Our main persuader just mumbles and moans. And the press secretary is talking about an outright blizzard. And everything rests on the heroism of a simple soldier. Further only epithets...,..

[Belisarius]

Many facts are presented correctly, but the conclusions are very strange.
The conventional West took advantage of the undoubtedly "brilliant" decision to attack all of Ukraine, recognizing its government and territorial integrity, and successfully moderates the conflict by precisely and meteredly supplying weapons (mostly old ones), and not allowing the parties to leave it. That is, acting in strict accordance with the canonical "against Russia, at the expense of Russia and on the ruins of Russia."
But at the same time, it is his actions that the author calls inadequate and boorish. What's inappropriate here? We can say that these actions are dangerous and destructive for Russia, but they cannot be called “inadequate.”
In addition, he constantly talks about some kind of “war”. Maybe he will clarify what kind of mysterious war this is from the point of view of the laws of the Russian Federation. Not of the West and Ukraine, but of the Russian Federation itself?

[Griffith]

We can say that these actions are dangerous and destructive for Russia, but they cannot be called “inadequate.”

Well, if you consider the destruction of the Nord Streams to the detriment of your population, the introduction of 20000 sanctions in violation of WTO norms, and the illegal seizure of assets as adequate behavior, then yes, everything else is also adequate, no doubt.

[Vladimir M]

Griffith, you can of course say the West is inadequate and all that. Of course, it's hard to argue with this. But the West does exactly as much as it is allowed to do. And here it is still worth admitting that our response to the antics of the West is not adequate.

[Griffith]

Griffith, you can of course say the West is inadequate and all that. Of course, it's hard to argue with this. But the West does exactly as much as it is allowed to do. And here it is still worth admitting that our response to the antics of the West is not adequate.

You'll be surprised, but the West's margin of safety took 300 years to build up. And what about Russia's? Even China, the world's number one economy, is acting cautiously, sending out the XNUMXst Chinese warning, and the US doesn't give a shit about it. And you, yeah, are a real dick, waving a virtual saber from the couch.

[Vladimir M]

You contradict yourself. According to you, the West created a safety margin for 300 years. Russia simply will not survive by delaying the NWO.

[Griffith]

You contradict yourself. According to you, the West created a safety margin for 300 years. Russia simply will not survive by delaying the NWO.

Where is the contradiction here? Russia is currently building a new foundation. The West has a solid foundation, but over the past 300 years, cracks have appeared. That is why China, Russia and other countries are acting cautiously, slowly driving wedges into these cracks. Or do you think that the hysteria and escalation of the situation in the West came out of nowhere? It means that they are really in trouble somewhere, since they are screaming so much. But due to the total control over the press, this is not immediately obvious. For example, how do you like this information. During the NWO, more than a thousand man-made accidents related to production and logistics occurred in the United States. A sharp recession suddenly began in Europe. The cost of losses in the West from the consequences of the NWO, according to Western newspapers, is estimated at about 4 trillion dollars. In just one year, the US national debt has grown by 3 trillion dollars.
Although yes, some people in the Northern Military District are at a dead end. Maybe not in the SVO, but in some people’s heads there is a dead end due to the inability to analyze information?

[Vladimir M]

Things aren't so bad in the West. I am more interested in the situation inside Russia. And yes, there is Europe, and then there is the USA and Britain. True, it is not very clear why the United States and Britain, while harming Russia, are at the same time purposefully destroying the economies of France and Germany. Maybe they have already found a replacement for them in the person of Poland. And so it is worth admitting that the USA and Britain are doing well so far.

[Griffith]

Things aren't so bad in the West. I am more interested in the situation inside Russia. And yes, there is Europe, and then there is the USA and Britain. True, it is not very clear why the United States and Britain, while harming Russia, are at the same time purposefully destroying the economies of France and Germany. Maybe they have already found a replacement for them in the person of Poland. And so it is worth admitting that the USA and Britain are doing well so far.

Yes, yes, I believe, I believe.
When America disposes of its population by passing laws to permit pederasty, drug addiction, gender reassignment, and legalizes prostitution, this means all is well. And when millions of homeless people are brought in to elect a president, this is also wonderful. And when the English economy is in recession and the number of excess deaths is growing significantly, this is also great. and taxes from drug trafficking, what could be better?
I suggest you promote these things in Russia, because America and England benefit from this very well. Am I right?

[Vladimir M]

Remove the words America and England from your text and put the word Russia. Did you find many differences? Well, maybe only there is no official permission, but Russia is such a country that for pederasty, drug addiction, migrants, prostitution, murders (practically without punishment) of the correct population and no official permission is required for all this to flourish.
But in America, the “indigenous population” has the right and opportunity to defend themselves, their family and their home with weapons.

[Griffith]

Remove the words America and England from your text and put the word Russia. Did you find many differences? Well, maybe there is only no official permission, but Russia is such a country that pederasty, drug addiction, migrants, prostitution, murders (with virtually no punishment) of the correct population do not require official permission for it all to flourish.
But in America, the “indigenous population” has the right and opportunity to defend themselves, their family and their home with weapons.

As soon as you show specific facts, your opponent switches to blanket condemnation. Can I have the facts? Or are there no facts in the methods?
I especially liked the one about protecting the indigenous population. Kissing a black man’s ass turns out to be protecting the “indigenous population”. And why in quotation marks? Where did the indigenous population itself go? Everything is also according to the law.

[Vladimir M]

I don't care how "bad" things are for them. I am interested in what would be good in the territories of Russia. Well, here they “kiss” the ass of foreigners no less, although here the diasporas resolve issues. I have never heard of a foreigner in the United States grabbing a police officer by the chest in public and saying, “let’s go out and talk without a uniform.”

[Griffith]

I don't care how "bad" things are for them. I am interested in what would be good in the territories of Russia. Well, here they “kiss” the ass of foreigners no less, although here the diasporas resolve issues. I have never heard of a foreigner in the United States grabbing a police officer by the chest in public and saying, “let’s go out and talk without a uniform.”

Before you write like this, first, understand what is good and what is bad. I am also for everything good and against everything bad. Everyone says so. The question is what you personally did for this, since you say such words. Or are you waiting for all this to be done for you? Maybe this is the reason for your dissatisfaction?

[ZloyCat]

“During the SVO, more than a thousand man-made accidents related to production and logistics occurred in the United States”
and how many of them have we had? But the production and logistics of the Russian Federation is a small fraction of that of the United States.
“In one year alone, the US national debt grew by $3 trillion.”
America doesn't care much about it, unlike you. it will continue to grow

[karabas-barabas]

Quote: Griffit

Europe has suddenly entered a sharp recession

Who told you this? In Europe, economic growth is normal, as always. The only thing that is slowing down is Germany, but it is not a recession, but a lack of growth, less than 1%.

[Neutral Neutral]

Don’t try to talk about a topic you don’t understand. For example, fertilizer production has disappeared in the EU. In Japan, the yen collapsed, in Germany, in May 24 alone, the index of industrial production fell by 6% - the collective West is objectively crumbling, the USA planned to conquer and rob the Russian Federation - but in reality they are robbing their colonies, but this cannot continue indefinitely - the French President will not allow lie.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Griffit

but in the West it took 300 years for the safety margin to be created. What is it like in Russia?

The problem is not strength, but the actions or inactions of one of the parties. After all, at the beginning of the Northern Military District in February 2022, the whole world was convinced that Ukraine had no chance in a military conflict with Russia... some “analysts” said that in 3 days Russia would take Kyiv and win the conflict, others that everything would last a couple of weeks - a month, and everyone agreed with this, what we have, what they have.

But what happened? Russia was unable to effectively use its military potential, gross mistakes were made, and the steps that should have been taken were not taken, resulting in the failure of the “first phase” and a protracted conflict.

Now imagine that we rewind time and again in February 2022... we could more effectively strike at the Ukrainian Armed Forces and destroy most of the “military potential” of Ukraine??? They could have... if they had not spared the Ukrainian army at the initial stage (nobody pitied ours there), serious mistakes were made politically (withdrawal of troops from near Kyiv), in the military (regrouping in the Kharkov direction - after all, if they had taken a more serious approach, everything could have hold) + more competent training would solve many of our current problems.

Therefore, it is not a matter of strength, but of efficiency…. The West is quite effective, it is 2-3 steps ahead. What do we have? GDP has been trying to solve the Donbass problem since 2014, 8 years! his partners led him by the nose... when in 2014 the people of Russia (in the majority) were convinced that the issue needed to be closed now, because there is a legitimate Yanukovych - there is a power vacuum, a weak Armed Forces of Ukraine and the support of the Ukrainians - Russia. But they managed to lose everything... you need to “be able to” do this.

[Griffith]

Therefore, it is not a matter of strength, but of efficiency…. The West is quite effective, it is 2-3 steps ahead.

Yes Yes. Effective. And a dollar for 200 rubles. And the economy is in ruins after the sanctions. It’s funny to see when the same result is effective for some, but negative for others.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Griffit

Yes Yes. Effective. And a dollar for 200 rubles. And the economy is in ruins after the sanctions. It’s funny to see when the same result is effective for some, but negative for others.

Everything is known in comparison, here you wrote well-known cliches where we supposedly have a "victory", but if you look closely? In 2013-2014, the dollar costs 31-34 rubles, and now 90 (on average +-), is this a victory? How many goods in the store could you buy in 2013 and now for the same money? The purchasing power of Russians has fallen, but prices for everything have increased, from food to especially equipment.

GDP says that we are the 4th economy in the world (in PPP terms), but if calculated at face value, we are in 11th place. But the most objective indicator is the standard of living of the population...that’s when the population with average income/or higher and a decent level of education wants to move to live in Russia, not in Canada, Germany, Spain, Italy, Norway, Denmark, etc. (the list goes on) then we can confidently boast about the economy and how people live, otherwise on TV they tell us how hard life is for residents of Western countries, how expensive it is to pay for utilities, buy food, etc. but something is not visible, crowds of the middle class, on the way to Russia.

And in general, the future is technology, the country that will dominate in the technological sphere (chips, self-driving cars, artificial intelligence, new generations of mobile communications... in medicine that can cure any type of cancer, prolong life, etc.) and will rule the world. For now, only 2 centers are emerging: the USA - China, but there are already attempts by Great Britain to become a leader in the technological sphere and limit the transfer of technology to other countries; Japan, South Korea and other high-tech countries will follow the same path.

The only question is, where will we be? Therefore, be glad that we don’t have such “….” in the economy that we were promised, of course it’s possible, but overall the situation is sad.

[Griffith]

that’s when the population with average income/or higher and a decent level of education wants to move to live in Russia, not in Canada, Germany, Spain, Italy, Norway, Denmark, etc. (the list goes on)

It is interesting, however, before hanging cliches, first: what population and whose? Second: data on the desires of the population in different countries. Third. I can also claim that the white population of the entire world of traditional values ​​is burning with desire to move to Russia. So what? Your cliche is completely beaten by mine. And in fact, in the comments, both mine and yours, there is a complete zero information. Only propaganda.

[Griffith]

but there are already attempts by Great Britain to become a leader in the technological sphere and limit the transfer of technology to other countries; Japan, South Korea and other high-tech countries will follow the same path.

Again, another cliché. In the modern world, only in the products of the first and second stages can one be completely independent. Products from the third stage and above no longer have technological sovereignty in any country. Because resources, processing, further processing and assembly are carried out in different countries. Purely physically, well, every country does not have all the resources. I especially touched about the UK and Japan. They are a storehouse of all resources.
And non-volatile to boot.
For reference: you sleep, live, eat, communicate only because there is electricity. Both England and Japan are completely dependent on external resources in this matter. Artificial intelligence also requires gigawatts of energy. Indeed, there is a complete lack of understanding of the basic needs and life support mechanisms of the population.

[Belisarius]

Quote: Griffit

Well, if you consider the destruction of the Nord Streams to the detriment of your population, the introduction of 20000 sanctions in violation of WTO norms, and the illegal seizure of assets as adequate behavior, then yes, everything else is also adequate, no doubt.

Look how strange (I’m using a very mild term) your idea. You tried to select the most beneficial and obvious examples for you, but each of them literally screams the opposite.
1) Illegal seizure of assets - The West deeply despises this wonderful company of "democratic patriots" who have been ruling the Russian Federation since 1993. They despise it despite the fact that these wonderful people took all the stolen Soviet assets and wealth of Russia to the West. And then they are given a great excuse to confiscate these assets (both state and private, of which there are many times more). You call this "inadequate". In fact, it is simply a brilliant operation. And a very elegant one - the assets are frozen until the aggression stops, but then you will have to pay for this aggression again.
2) Sanctions in violation of the WTO. First of all, a simple question - why did we enter there? After all, when the regime frantically dragged Russia into the WTO, reasonable people shouted, “don’t do this.” The WTO is an organization created by the strongest capitalist countries for themselves and for themselves. For Russia, due to the peculiarities of its economy, it is completely unprofitable, but the Putin-Grefov regime pushed through this decision no matter what. And now they cry and complain. This is just inadequate. But they beat fools in church too.
And then, what does the WTO have to do with it? After all, sanctions are adopted due to violations of international law; do not attack another country and you will not face sanctions. This is how your complaints will be answered.
In fact, the West is limiting the Russian economy while simultaneously taking away sales markets for itself. What is “inadequate” about this?
3) Explosion of the Nordic Streams. Firstly, what are these “interests of the population”? Do you know that in the West there is capitalism? If you think that bankers in the City care about the interests of farmers in Devonshire, then this is such childish naivety that I give up.
Secondly, our propaganda screams every day that Europe is controlled by the USA. Well, from the point of view of the USA, undermining the flows is simply a Klondike, a gold mine. And from the point of view of the globalists, this is simply wonderful because it accelerates the processes of energy transition. Where is the inadequacy here?
I didn’t write all this to offend you. It’s just that the autistic thinking into which the authorities have plunged most of the population of the Russian Federation is our common problem.

[Griffith]

I didn’t write all this to offend you. It’s just that the autistic thinking into which the authorities have plunged most of the population of the Russian Federation is our common problem.

Yes Yes. I understand your point. Throw out mercy, sympathy, prudence. Cut, beat, steal, kill, force, rape and you will be happy. The West will not let you lie.

[odometer]

Degree of escalation... And the fact that the Russian Federation is in first place in gas supplies to Europe (having overtaken the USA) and regularly pays for transit to Ukraine... Is this a degree, lines or an asymmetrical response? Retribution, so to speak...

[turembo]

You know, I don't like the trend of relying on TNW lately, everyone started shouting in one voice that we will show TNW and everything will calm down. Nothing will calm down, we are starting to write like God forgive me, like Ukraine, about some miracle weapon that is about to change everything and all that stuff. If you bought black bread, you can't make white bread out of it. If you created a dead-end conflict for yourself with incompetent foreign policy and diplomacy, then putting out the fire with gasoline seems strange, to put it mildly. And everyone in one voice says that we will load TNW and the West will run away in fear. Well, we will demolish a couple of dozen garden toilets, but as the ashes settle, the West will immediately understand that this is another one, we haven't started yet. Yes, it will be much more effective to throw tactical sofas and analytical chairs at the enemy along with passengers who will be able to destroy the enemy's potential with advice and nagging, and also equipment with a direct sofa hit. War is no joke, people die there, and unfortunately they will continue to die, we need to moderate our nuclear ardor and start thinking with a sober head about how to win it, or at least not lose face.

[Griffith]

War is no joke, people die there, and unfortunately will continue to die

You'll be surprised, but people are, oddly enough, mortal creatures. And even your words would have been considered an insult just recently, literally a century ago. Dying on the battlefield, and not feeble in bed, was considered an honor. How everything has changed, how everything has become petty. And yes, it's strange, maybe you could tell us how you acted when the Americans killed more than a million Iraqis? Or Syrians? Or Libyans? Didn't give a shit? And then suddenly it exploded?
All of Europe is in recession after the Great Patriotic War, and you have a dead end. It's funny, when one fart spread a million newspapers, some suddenly began to choke and vomit. They suddenly found themselves pampered, that’s sadness.

[turembo]

Um, what specific words of mine would be considered an insult? It’s just interesting for your general development. Please note that the war has changed a lot, when those fighting could directly see each other, and the stronger, more dexterous, etc. won. Now you can be a real terminator, and die from a toy helicopter from a boy with a joystick with anime chevrons, and if Do you see great honor in such a death, it is not clear for what, for what purposes, and for whom, for the homeland? Officially, we are not at war with anyone, and no one attacked us. I consider the question about Libya, Syria, Yugoslavia and all the others incorrect; one might as well ask how you saved these countries? Agree, it doesn’t come out correctly, especially since a self-respecting person will not get personal.

[Griffith]

Do you see great honor in such a death, it is not clear for what, for what purposes, and for whom, for the homeland? Officially, we are not at war with anyone, and no one attacked us. I consider the question about Libya, Syria, Yugoslavia and all the others incorrect; one might as well ask how you saved these countries?

I live 40 km from the BS line. For family reasons I can’t leave. And he has been coming to us for 2 years now. When you live in such conditions, your attitude towards death will change. And about Syria, Libya and Yugoslavia. Yes, it had nothing to do with me. And now, too, it concerns only indirectly. Therefore, I am not indignant at the actions of the parties, because I can’t influence this. And therefore, I consider someone’s indignation without any action to be ordinary hypocrisy.

[Deon59]

You are probably glad that it has been flying in for two years already. And you happily ran and voted for the one who allowed it to fly in to you. It is such an honor that they will let you die not in bed.

[solar]

And even your words just recently, literally a century ago, would have been considered an insult. To die on the battlefield, and not sick in bed, was considered an honor.

A century ago there was the First World War. No one on it any longer considered it an honor to die, on the contrary.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote from solar

A century ago there was the First World War. No one on it any longer considered it an honor to die, on the contrary.

That's for sure, it's enough to read Schweik. Even the psychotypes of some commentators here are described

Meanwhile, the feldkurat met upstairs in the office a lady from the “Union of Noblewomen for the Religious Education of the Lower Ranks,” an old, nasty fury who had been walking around the hospital since the morning, handing out icons of saints right and left. Wounded and sick soldiers threw them into spittoons.
She irritated everyone with her stupid chatter about the need to sincerely regret one’s sins and correct oneself, so that after death a merciful God would grant eternal salvation. She was pale when she talked to the sergeant major:
“This war, instead of ennobling soldiers, turns them into beasts.”
Downstairs, the sick people stuck out their tongues at her and said that she was “a mug” and “Balaam’s donkey.”
And she began to talk about how she imagined the religious education of a soldier. Only then does a soldier fight valiantly for his sovereign, the emperor, when he believes in God and is full of religious feelings. Only then is he not afraid of death when he knows that paradise awaits him.
The chatterbox said a bunch of similar nonsense, and it was clear that she did not intend to let the sergeant-at-arms go. However, the feldkurat did not bid farewell to her gallantly.
- We're going home, Schweik! - he shouted into the guardhouse.

[Bolt cutter]

All of Europe is in recession after the SVO

Oh Shlomo, yes, yours was just like hiss. .

[Vladimir80]

We are starting, God forgive me, like Ukraine, to write about some kind of miracle weapon that will change everything and everything else

to be fair, we have been writing about miracle weapons since 2018 (cartoons, sunburnts, armata, 57s, etc.)

[Aleksandr21]

Quote from turembo

War is no joke, people die there, and unfortunately will continue to die, we need to moderate our nuclear ardor and start thinking with a sober head about how to win it

Your suggestions ?

In my opinion, without tactical nuclear weapons or strategic nuclear forces, Russia has no chance in a war with the West if an open conflict breaks out (with the official deployment of NATO troops to Ukraine) because mobilization resources are not comparable, USA + EU = 1 billion population, Russia – 145 million, subtract the share of women/children/old people and get an approximate picture. In technological terms, the USA is ahead of the rest, soon we will have drones/UAVs completely controlled by AI, the computer power of the USA will still increase... + by 2030, Germany will remember its “past” and will drive Europe to new “feats”, in addition to its production capacity The West is many times superior to the Russian ones but... They are just getting started and don’t want to rebuild the economy on a war footing, but if this happens, it’s clear which side will have the advantage.

And that is why we suddenly remembered about tactical nuclear weapons in the event of the introduction of an official NATO group into Ukraine because without him there is no chance.

And if NATO is not considered and only Ukraine is taken into account, then it will just be a meat grinder for N number of years, we are of course at the expense of the mob. we will draw out the resource... but the losses could be colossal, especially if Ukraine, with the support of the West, equals the amount of ammunition with Russia + new-generation UAVs (AI + mass production... already now in some sectors of the front there are 4-5 drones for 1 of our attack aircraft!).

[karabas-barabas]

Quote: Aleksandr21

In my opinion, without tactical nuclear weapons or strategic nuclear forces, Russia has no chance in a war with the West if an open conflict breaks out (with the official deployment of NATO troops to Ukraine

In your opinion, is it adequate to use nuclear weapons because of the territory of Ukraine?? It’s one thing if the occupation of internationally recognized territories of the Russian Federation is under threat, as it is written in the doctrine of the Russian Federation, and quite another thing for territories that could not be captured and controlled. Moreover, attacks on Ukraine will be followed by attacks on the territory of the Russian Federation. In my opinion this is some kind of stupid exchange. And what other NATO contingents are there when the West has not yet really armed Ukraine?

[DenVB]

Quote: Aleksandr21

And that is why we suddenly remembered about tactical nuclear weapons in the event of the introduction of an official NATO group into Ukraine because without him there is no chance.

And even without NATO, we apparently have no chance of winning without tactical nuclear weapons.

[Maxim73]

Well, what else can you offer people? The SVO is quite fed up - it’s the same thing every day. Tanks and guns fire, drones fly, and the mention of tactical nuclear weapons is such good information doping. It starts bubbling like in a cesspool after a packet of yeast. They'll talk about tactical nuclear weapons and calm down - the F-16 is on the way. There will be another color line and expert hysteria on federal TV channels. It will subside in 3 days. On the weekend they will throw it in again for another 3 days.

[Yuri L]

I'm ready to bet with anyone that dozens of RLFL launchers designed to launch Tomahawk missiles are being prepared for delivery to Ukraine (they are currently being delivered to the US Marine Corps). This is at least 2500 km, i.e., the entire Urals. In addition, detailed lists of Strategic Missile Forces targets are being compiled (the missile silo is fairly well protected, but the Strategic Missile Forces control systems, it turns out, according to the latest facts of unanswered strikes, have vulnerable spots). In addition, lists of targets are being compiled, a strike on which will lead to the need to evacuate millions of people (there are such enterprises in the Russian Federation, usually they are located in closed administrative-territorial entities). So, as a result of the absolute cowardice of the political command of the Russian Armed Forces (Shoigu and Gerasimov are just cogs here), the Enemy received a unique opportunity to painlessly dismantle the Strategic Shield, which has been created since the times of the USSR. After this, the exclusion of the Russian Federation from the UN Security Council will follow (remember the story with Taiwan!, it is quite possible, gagging the PRC), and the immediate introduction of * peacekeeping * armed forces of the UN (remember what the troops opposing us in the North Korean conflict were called?) on the territory of the Russian Federation, which is already militarily safe for them, with its division into regions-states that have been at odds for decades (which for some reason they did not do in the 1990s, apparently Yeltsin absolutely groveled under them then). And where will all our Elite be then? And there it will be, where is its money, real estate, its children (remember for a second whose daughter lived under the notorious .for some The Hague until 2021?), whose citizens (or having a residence permit they are). The question is, was one of the Kremlin towers striving for such a prospect, starting with the North Korean War, for such *security*? This is what the absence of even the slightest Will does (they can say that it is simply not interested in this) another Kremlin Tower (a group of influential people, accustomed since 1990 to receiving trillions of comprador *interest*), but is it easier for us, ordinary citizens of the Russian Federation? The West has really prepared for us a multi-decade civil war for survival (they will also stop supporting Ukraine then, that's enough), an annual change of small regional dictators (there is a whole strategy for this in the US). What, hello here, local, Russian Iraq, only in a much worse version? Was our old *evil friend* Z. Brzezinski really right, in one of his interviews with Russian journalists in 2009, asking *Are you sure that your elite rules you, and not ours?* Here they are, *red lines*. This is what we can come to already in 2026-27, if we continue to *fight* like this (or will we never start* to fight for real*?) They have their own clear plan, it's just that every day now they are experimenting with how far they can go (and they have already gone very far)

[Griffith]

I’m ready to bet with anyone that dozens of RLFL launchers intended for launching Tomahawk missiles are being prepared for delivery to Ukraine (they are now supplied to the USMC). This is at least 2500 km, i.e. the entire Urals. In addition, detailed lists of targets of the Strategic Missile Forces are being compiled ( the missile silo is quite well protected, but the control systems of the Strategic Missile Forces, it turns out, based on the latest facts of unanswered strikes, have vulnerabilities). In addition, lists of targets are compiled, a strike on which will lead to the need to evacuate millions of people (there are such enterprises in the Russian Federation, usually they are located in BUT).

After such a bunch of words, a simple question arises. Why didn't they do all this earlier? After all, the USSR collapsed 30 years ago. Russia was in total ass. And America had more and newer Tomahawks, and more weapons. And I'll even tell you a big secret. CIA agents were sitting in almost every management, agency and design bureau. They didn't even need Tomahawk missiles. Come and pay. They'll do everything for you. They'll dismantle it for scrap metal and sell it. And then they suddenly woke up? According to you, CIA agents fucked everything up here, since they needed missiles? Someone's logic is probably zero.

[Vladimir80]

Why didn't they do all this before?

it was necessary for the generation of winners to leave and for a generation of consumers to come who would give up the country for “Tyndeksmarket and a glass of coffee with syrup” after the first arrival... as I understand it...

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Vladimir80

it was necessary for the generation of winners to leave and for a generation of consumers to come who would give up the country for “Tyndeksmarket and a glass of coffee with syrup” after the first arrival... as I understand it...

the generation of Winners, as I understand it, was mostly already retired by 1990..

[Vladimir80]

the generation of Winners, as I understand it, was mostly already retired by 1990..

true, but it still had “weight in society”, but now the most active generation is the infantile “tik-tokers”, whose meaning of life is comfort and pleasure...

[alexoff]

This generation of consumers came under Khrushchev, the winners were sent into retirement and silenced back then. And the country was betrayed by lovers of boiled jeans, Pepsi and three hundred varieties of sausage

[Blackmokona]

Quote: Griffit

After such a bunch of words, a simple question arises. Why didn't they do all this before?

And look at the graph of the number of nuclear shields. The dismantling was in full swing and with whistling and dancing. Until it stopped due to a change in Russia's course.

[Griffith]

And look at the graph of the number of nuclear shields. The dismantling was in full swing and with whistling and dancing. Until it stopped due to a change in Russia's course.

What is Russia's change of course? Haven't you read all the comments above? Judging by them, there is no change in course. In the Moscow Region there are only thieves and hucksters, the President and the leadership of Russia are cowards, etc., etc. On the contrary, they steal even more than in the 90s. What kind of change of course is this? Everything is complete ass. Or there is a change of course, but then the commentators above have complete ass in their heads. Otherwise, some kind of bipolar disorder in people. We need to decide somehow.

[Yuri L]

Well, because Yeltsin created the feeling that Russia had already fallen under their control forever. But in general, if you believe the same Brzezinski, in the 90s there was a battle of opinions in the shadow government of the USA about whether Russia should be divided or not. The faction that won (and Brzezinski was not part of it) believed that a unified Russia was better than a fragmented one, because it would not be possible to completely remove Russia's nuclear weapons to the USA, and in the chaos some ultra-patriotic dictator of regional scale would take and withstand an environmentally unfriendly Armageddon on the scale of Russia, or organize the sale of nuclear loaves to all those who want it of a terrorist nature. And what would they do first? That's right, a nuclear September 11 in damned America (it hadn't happened yet). Therefore, the more peaceful point of view won. But now it is unlikely to win. But they don't know what to do with our nuclear weapons. There's too much of it. And that's what stops their decision-making centers. And they should be stopped by our Skull-Crushing Victory over the Enemy. That's what should be the only thing stopping a Bandit by nature. There's no other way now. But, alas, there are other "Kremlin Towers." They've been there since the mid-80s, since the time of the "party gold"...

[Dante Alighieri]

Yuri, you have a very accurate assessment of the situation. Moreover, I note that during the Northern Military District, the stockpiles of conventional weapons on the territory of the Russian Federation, which the Soviet country had been accumulating throughout its existence, have significantly decreased, which means that in the event of a potential intervention and the destruction of the main production facilities along with the nuclear shield, there will be absolutely nothing to oppose to the occupiers. By the way, this is the fundamental difference between today and the 90s, when after the expulsion of the army from the GDR, warehouses were simply bursting with everything and everyone, and relatively unkilled equipment was literally standing in the field. There was a shortage of personnel (especially conscripts) - this is true, but there was an abundance of everything that shoots and brings death. And there were enough Soviet officers who could bring all this stuff to life and train replacements. And this would become a big problem for everyone who, having dealt with strategic nuclear forces, decided to come to our land. Now the situation is radically different. Today, only one thing encourages me: China, although it may not openly oppose the introduction of a “peacekeeping contingent,” will still not sit still, because no matter how you look at it and what share in the global economic distribution of labor it does not occupy, but if you at least hypothetically If you apply for the role of “the first guy in the village”, then you will be next. Especially if you suddenly suddenly lost the powerful nuclear cover of your now former neighbor. What can China do in this case? The answer is to take control of the maximum possible part of the territory, ensuring relative order and the opportunity for the population living on it to carry out calm and normal economic activities, as well as evacuate highly qualified personnel, production equipment and nuclear remnants from territories under the control of other countries. arsenal. Is China capable of this? Answer: absolutely. What territory may fall under Chinese protectorate? In order not to fall under the article, I will answer - significant, just look at the map. The result: with Chinese mediation, a fairly large piece of the country is quite capable of surviving, at the same time significantly strengthening the position of China itself. I believe that the Pentagon understands this very well and extremely does not want this scenario to develop. Plus, as you correctly noted, everything related to the nuclear component is a big problem. And we are talking not only about nuclear weapons themselves (although tracking tactical charges is already quite problematic), but also about the nuclear industry in general. Each plant, each plant, during its operation, accumulates a large amount of quite a few specific substances, the entire volume of which is simply impossible to remove from the enterprise, which means they may well serve the partisans as raw materials for creating unpleasant gifts for the “liberators” and “democratizers.” These two factors, it seems to me, influence why today we are still a relatively independent international entity.

Of course, everything described is fantasy, free speculation on the proposed topic. The author of this commentary does not encourage anyone to do anything and does not give any recommendations for specific actions.

[avia12005]

It seems that the main principles of Russian politics in recent times have become quotes from Carlson: "Calm down, just calm down" and "It's nothing, it's part of life."

Needless to say, the endless and unpunished escalation on the part of the West will sooner or later lead Russia to a dilemma: surrender or use nuclear weapons.

[Alex 1970]

(SVO) in Ukraine is a story of increasing degrees of arrogance and inadequacy of Western countries in relation to Russia. This is a consequence of the leadership's toothlessness to respond to the very first delivery of weapons. All these loud statements about strikes on decision-making centers and other empty threats are not supported by anything. Now we have what we have. The West only took advantage of the situation.

[S.Z.]

The author says that we are not acting tough enough. But we are acting as harshly as possible based on what funds we have available.

In order to act tougher, it is necessary to either mobilize or start using nuclear weapons.

Both of these scenarios have the risk of Russia ceasing to exist within its current borders due to the emergence of internal problems.

In the first case, there is a huge risk that mobilization will fail, since a significant part of the mobilizers will run away and hide, as was the case before, which will be taken advantage of by the internal enemies of the current government.

In the second case, there is a risk of us losing all allies and military defeat, but not in a local conflict, but in a nuclear war.

Therefore, the behavior of our government under existing conditions is the safest for Russia.

[Griffith]

The author says that we are not acting tough enough. But we are acting as harshly as possible based on what funds we have available.

Don't bother trying to reason with the crowd. Crowds want spectacles like the Colosseum. And preferably more blood, guts and severed heads. True, when you invite them to go down to the Colosseum arena themselves, they immediately shout, sputtering with saliva: and why are we here?

[parma]

Wait, wait... I’m completely confused... this is how the West delivers “small, outdated, useless” or “guard, everything is lost! F16/Mirage 2000 is being delivered, we are raking it in!”? I’m tired of all these fairy tales, like “they don’t have anything of their own, we’ve already knocked everything out 5 times, but they’re bringing new ones”... things like Su-27, Su-25, Su-24, T-64, BTR-3/4 and there is simply nowhere else to get a lot of other stuff for supplies to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, although these machines are still often found. And how many loud words there were in the summer-autumn of 2022 (when they regrouped from the Kharkov region) that there were no more personnel in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, only Poles and blacks... what will we do if NATO actually come to a showdown, and will not “cheer from the stands” "?

[Vladimir80]

this is the story of the increasing degree of arrogance and inadequacy of Western countries

No, this is rather a story of weakness and puppetry at the top of North Caledonia...

[tralflot1832]

What clear reaction does the West expect from Russia, to check their readiness to use Article 5 of NATO? There are two red lines, the deployment of NATO troops to Ukraine or the same deployment of troops to Russia and everyone’s “favorite” nuclear weapons.

[BAI]

this is a story of increasing degrees of arrogance and inadequacy of Western countries in relation to Russia.

The West is acting correctly and consistently.
And the reason for everything is the cowardice of the Russian political leadership.
He who chooses between shame and war will receive both shame and war

[Don Analyst]

No need for fuss
The lack of results for NATO is already a victory for Russia.
The confrontation on the battlefield continues.

[Freddy]

It's too late to draw lines with a red marker now. It's too late to show exercises with nuclear weapons. What's the point of waving them around if no one in the West has even seen the results. And they've forgotten what it is. We need to behave the same way they behave. They wanted to blow up a gas pipeline, so they need to cut off the communication cables and the Internet in response. They'll yell and calm down. We're organizing terror in public places, if we adequately stop the gas supply and other things, then it will be even worse for them. Until the people of the West understand the hard way that all the taps are closed, then they'll start thinking.

[Bogatyrev]

Unwillingness to act harshly and even cruelly

Like how is this?

[Blackmokona]

Quote: Bogatyrev

Like how is this?

Stomp your feet louder, cry, kick your boot and call your mother. How else?

[Illanatol]

Quote: avia12005

Needless to say, the endless and unpunished escalation on the part of the West

In this conflict, the side that moves faster up the escalation ladder will lose. Because this ladder also has an end - a nuclear conflict or surrender of positions.
It is obvious to me that the West will ultimately choose. The West will not risk everything for the sake of Slavic Papuasia.
Everything has a price, and so does Ukraine, and it is not so great as to go all-in.

The West's escalation is not a manifestation of the West's strength, but a manifestation of its weakness. The West is forced to raise rates because previous rates did not give the West and Ukraine the desired positive result.
The chips in this casino will soon run out and there will be no more bets. Nobody will give nuclear weapons to Ukraine; there are no suicides there.

Russia should not fuss and take hasty measures. You just need to methodically and systematically physically destroy the Banderlogs (which is real demilitarization with denazification), since their supply is not endless. Just continue, not paying attention to the barking of provocateurs.

[Vladimir80]

Quote: Don Analyst

No need for fuss
The lack of results for NATO is already a victory for Russia.

bravo, you finally voiced what the elite will call a victory in 3-4 years....

[Mikhail Toropov]

Only stubborn guards can consider the behavior of the West to be inadequate against the backdrop of the impotence that Putin and his entourage demonstrate in relation to this very West. Those who forgot how it all began and how careful the West was in the first months.

[Larich]

Here's something else that surprises me. Peace is always better than war for the economy. Since the time of Borka the drunkard, our elite have been bought and sold up to the tailbone. Why did they decide to go to war? It’s not like fighting with Libya, or even with Iran. But they still teased us about heading east

[Konnick]

Quote: Larich

Why did they decide to go to war? It’s not like fighting with Libya, or even with Iran. But they still teased us about heading east

Let's go back to the classics -

“So they called me yellow fish?”
- Yes! Yes! Fish! And a worm! Earthworm!
“They called me the spotted frog?”
- Yes! Yes! A frog! And an earthworm!

Talked too much...too insolent

[Alexander_First]

Degree of inadequacy: intensification of arms supplies by Western countries to Ukraine during the Northern Military District

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What inadequacy of NATO and Co.? Look at the goal they chose for themselves 30 years ago. And how they are moving towards it. Step by step. The Russian Federation is another matter. It is running at the speed of a locomotive whistle into the "friendly embrace" of "civilized countries and peoples". "Reforming" the Armed Forces and the military-industrial complex. (Why do we need them? If we have become such bourgeois that all the bourgeois of the world envy us) Then we declare sovereign (souvenir) democracy. Then we do business with the Kyiv Nazis. Then we conduct SVO against them. We draw some "red lines." Then we turn them into "blue" ones, etc. The enemy cannot be underestimated. Remember, US President R. Reagan was completely inadequate in his last term. And USSR President M. Gorbachev was in full sense of mind. So what, which country fell apart?

[Kmon]

Interestingly, during the Korean and Vietnam Wars, ordinary Americans were probably also indignant at how dare these arrogant Russians supply their “puppets” with a bunch of weapons, and demanded that their ships be sunk, or even punished with a nuclear bomb.

[Octillion]

The USSR supplied Elbrus missiles to Vietnam and allowed them to attack not only deep into South Vietnam, but also at American bases in the Pacific Ocean? No, they didn’t even deliver Luna with a ridiculous range there.

[Kmon]

Well, the USSR and the USA respected and feared each other as a strong adversary. And now the West is not afraid and does not respect us. However, in other respects this is a typical proxy war, following the rules of a proxy war (do not touch each other directly, and certainly not think about using nuclear weapons). They also supplied Vietnam much more than they supply to Ukraine.

[Octillion]

Well, the USSR and the USA respected and feared each other as a strong adversary. And now the West is not afraid and does not respect us.

This is already one reason why the analogy is lame. And the conflict itself was different. There was a plus or minus symmetrical situation with the same proxying.

However, otherwise this is a typical proxy war.

Well, a “proxy” can be to very different degrees. So, if you think about it, then the US war against the Reich before the full opening of the second front was a proxy. And maybe even after. Not to mention the Crimean War.

There was also the Spanish Civil War. There was also a “typical proxy war”, with the typical “we are not a party to the conflict, we are just helping.” When the Italians, persistently pretending to be Spanish nationalists, bombed Barcelona, ​​the already losing Republicans put “we_just_helpers” in their place, threatening to respond in kind against Italy, and not against the nationalists. This is what real “red lines” look like, not “pink” ones. Of course, the use of nuclear weapons (which in fact is not entirely tactical) before the use of conventional weapons is unscientific fiction.

They also supplied Vietnam much more than they supply to Ukraine.

Hardly any more. The war simply lasted longer and the weapons were simpler. They scoop out almost everything they can, but so as not to obviously expose themselves.

[Kmon]

Well, there was direct participation of the army/navy/air force in the hostilities, so there is not much of an analogy. But the example with Barcelona is indicative in the sense that threats do not work when there is no real force behind them. The Republican threats could only make the Italians laugh (since the Republican Air Force flying to Italy is ridiculous), and had no effect, since the bombing did not stop (there were as many as 728 raids during the war). Even if the Republicans really tried to do something on Italian territory, it would make them feel even worse, since then the Italian army would fully enter the war. Now the situation is similar: NATO is much stronger in a conventional sense, and therefore they are afraid to provoke a direct conflict with it, and no one believes in the reality of the use of nuclear weapons - this is geopolitical suicide.

[Octillion]

Yes, Barcelona is not a very good example, I agree. I found news from that time, Negrin was forced to clarify that his threat of a strike did not concern the territory of Italy.

Now the situation is similar: NATO is much stronger in a conventional sense, and therefore they are afraid to provoke a direct conflict with it, and no one believes in the reality of the use of nuclear weapons - this is geopolitical suicide.

Firstly, NATO is 30 countries. Even Hitler could not even come close to using the full military potential of the occupied territories and allies. And as for the fact that “the situation is similar”, “they are not afraid and do not respect”, you, of course, support the West, but why did they start using ATACMS relatively recently? Why did only GMLRS come with HIMARS/MLRS launchers for so long? Why did Reapers used to fly close to the border, but after one of them drowned, they rarely came even within 100 km? This means that they are not so “not afraid”. The West is “united and determined” while they themselves are not directly threatened. Here the Russian leadership itself is trapped in its own narrative, in which Ukraine is recognized as quite subjective, the West is only “preventing an agreement”; and the database itself is a kind of limited war (“special military operation”), therefore only recently it began to at least somehow react to the escalation, when the “partners” began to become completely impudent.

[Kmon]

Well, think for yourself why. The West could flood Ukraine with weapons - in much larger quantities than now. But why does he need a quick (possible) victory for Ukraine? On the contrary, the longer the massacre lasts, the more Russia's strength is depleted. And fear of Russian nuclear weapons is a convenient excuse for slowness. One cannot directly admit that a protracted conflict is beneficial to them.

And NATO may have 30 countries, but there is only one main one. They were practically united in the first XVIII century, and they are practically united (not counting Orban) now.

And one should not confuse the West’s reluctance to personally shed blood with a willingness to retreat in the event of a direct conflict. The Japanese have already been burned by this.

[Octillion]

Well, think for yourself why. The West could flood Ukraine with weapons - in much larger quantities than now. But why does he need a quick (possible) victory for Ukraine? On the contrary, the longer the massacre lasts, the more Russia's strength is depleted.

“We haven’t really started anything yet” and “cunning plans”, Western version. Probably, when Reaper was "wetted", the Americans suddenly decided that Ukraine was overpowering too quickly, they should fly farther so that the intelligence data would be worse :) In quantitative terms, there is no dosage. In the late spring of 2022, this collapse began, they began to rake out all possible Soviet weapons from Eastern Europe. And not only Soviet.

Already on November 22, 2022, Ukraine received from the West:

390 tanks
107 MLRS
268 SPG
271 howitzers
828 armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles
1373 army trucks and MRAPs
85 radars
60 units engineering technology
At least 3382 sets of uniforms

Well, if they didn’t “fail” it, then what? In what even larger quantities? Where else, for example, were they supposed to get Soviet-style tanks from? But the Western ones need to be taught - which is what we saw. Well, or go in with large forces ourselves.

And NATO may have 30 countries, but there is only one main one. They were practically united in the first XVIII century, and they are practically united (not counting Orban) now.

PMV? You should also remember Rome. In WWI, in fact, there were the Entente and the Central Powers. I already wrote about this: it’s easy to be united when nothing threatens you.

And one should not confuse the West’s reluctance to personally shed blood with a willingness to retreat in the event of a direct conflict. The Japanese have already been burned by this.

What Japanese, the situation is completely different. Iran has repeatedly directly hit the bases of the "main ones". Well, if Russia is supposedly so weak, then what can we say about Iran? No one will start World War III from one strike, especially a retaliatory one. That's what we need to do: say publicly that strikes by NATO countries with cruise and ballistic missiles, including all sorts of intermediate options like GLSDB and GMLRS-ER from the territory of Ukraine deep into Russia will be considered the same as strikes not from the territory of Ukraine. With an appropriate response. How much they laugh at the self-invented "red lines", but the point is that they were not really drawn. We need a clear criterion, which the "partners" definitely cannot do. If they risk striking us, they will get struck themselves. The first time with an hour's warning. But for this, first of all, "domestic political" courage is needed. It is difficult to explain how Bryansk is better than Belgorod or, especially, Donetsk. It will be difficult to explain that it is possible to strike at Crimea because it is in front of the “red line” and not behind it.

[mitlantecutli_zen]

Me ha gustado mucho este artículo. Desde acá, desde latinoamérica muchos vemos ese asunto de manera muy similar, coincidimos con la opinión del autor.

[Sibiryak70region]

I would like to look at all the clowns from TV who crowed and crowed that the Saloreich was about to run out of weapons and money

[nordscout]

Let's take a sensible and, if possible, adequate look at the events of "international life" and our place in it... I'll start "from the beginning". We are still part of the "friendly family" of capitalist states, with all the consequences that follow from this... For twenty-five years we have been "head over heels" building THIS bright, carefree and satisfying "bright future". trampling into the "mud" of oblivion all the good that had been developed in the previous years of the "stagnant - backward" USSR, starting with the ideological education of the population and further down the list.... "Indifference" at all levels, immersion in the egoism imposed by the West, "the pursuit of the ruble - dollar", in all its forms, - have become a "national sport", the arrival in ministries, departments - under the patronage, "nepotism" of random, thieving and not devoted to the cause and Russia individuals, often active participants in the "fifth column", which immediately affected the level of everything and everyone, including foreign policy, economics and the financial sphere... Russia is no longer considered a "serious neighbor" that can "stand up for itself", in fact, and not draw red lines, of all shades, on all "international corners"... And now, in the process of conducting the SVO, we are "reaping the fruits" of all this in the form of various sanctions, "wiping feet on Russia", whoever wants to, without even thinking about the consequences... And being in a "friendly family" - adds "fuel to the fire" to the West's confidence that we will not use against them the entire arsenal of means and methods of struggle for sovereignty, independence, and ultimately for a multipolar denazified world... And what kind of struggle can there be in a "friendly family" if they are tied "hand and foot" by common business, money, agreements, possible prospects for the future... And who knows what else.....

[Proctologist]

These “Vampires” drank Russian blood, from the Czech Republic we have to ask special questions for them, according to the principle of “an eye for an eye”

Perhaps these are the Czechs, using the tit-for-tat principle, to “thank” us for 1968?
https://www.kommersant.ru/projects/prague68

[crossbow]

The article is excellent. It’s just not clear why the author considers the West’s strategy of increasing escalation to be inadequate? Vice versa. NATO generals, seeing that Russia is prolonging the war, instead of ending it in a few weeks through the use of tactical nuclear weapons, are supplying the Ukrainian Armed Forces with more and more modern weapons. In the war that is going on in Ukraine today, there is absolutely no possibility of making deep defense breakthroughs or encircling large military formations. I think this is clear to everyone. You can win only by disabling the entire enemy infrastructure. It is necessary to destroy the country's electricity supply to zero, destroy large transport hubs, disable all airfields and large enterprises, destroy all bridges and tunnels. If we don't do this, the enemy will do it to our infrastructure while we audit the Department of Defense and fight corruption. This is easy for the West to do, given the high level of operational-tactical awareness and the availability of high-tech weapons of various types.

[acetophenone]

In a sense, we can say that the entire period of the special military operation (SVO) in Ukraine is a story of increasing the degree of arrogance and inadequacy of Western countries in relation to Russia

Can. You can say it. But to say this means to lie. I don’t understand why the arrogance and inadequacy? We have our own interests, they have theirs. We defend ours, they defend theirs. Who will take it out is the question. Will it come to an exchange of nuclear weapons strikes? Also a question. And “arrogance and inadequacy” is just talk.