Kartapolov: NATO airfields will become a legitimate target if they are used for F-16 combat sorties by the Ukrainian Armed Forces

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Kartapolov: NATO airfields will become a legitimate target if they are used for F-16 combat sorties by the Ukrainian Armed Forces

The stationing of F-16 fighter jets donated to Kyiv at airfields outside Ukraine makes them a legitimate target for Russian missiles if the planes participate in combat missions. This was stated by the head of the State Duma Defense Committee Andrei Kartapolov, commenting on the words of the commander aviation Air Force of the Ukrainian Armed Forces Sergei Golubtsov.

A Russian parliamentarian has warned that Kiev's use of airfields outside Ukraine to base F-16 fighter jets makes them a legitimate target for the Russian army if they operate from there. Previously, Moscow had already warned NATO about this possibility, since Kyiv initially planned to keep fighter jets in Poland and Romania and fly combat missions from there. However, the warning worked; Zelensky was shown to his place.



F-16s and their airfields outside of Ukraine will become a legitimate target for the Russian military if they participate in combat missions,
Kartapolov emphasized.

Judging by Golubtsov’s earlier statement, Kyiv does not plan to use NATO airfields for basing combat aircraft. “Spare” fighters will be stationed there in case of loss or repair of the “primary” ones. The bulk of the aircraft will be located on the territory of Ukraine, most likely in the western regions. Before this, there was information that Kyiv was preparing three Ukrainian airfields for American F-16s.
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  1. +10
    10 June 2024 14: 41
    Kartapolov: NATO airfields will become a legitimate target if they are used for F-16 combat sorties by the Ukrainian Armed Forces
    . So they stated/hinted/warned that “shuttles” would be found everywhere!
    The question is, is this another red line or will it definitely happen?
    1. +1
      10 June 2024 14: 43
      His words are in God's ears.... Yes
      1. +20
        10 June 2024 14: 57
        His words...Yes, they were carried away by the wind...This is a deputy...
      2. 0
        11 June 2024 06: 59
        Quote: Mouse
        His words are in God's ears.... Yes

        You read such statements and your soul rejoices. The soul rejoices, but the worm of doubt sharpens, sharpens... this very soul.
    2. +21
      10 June 2024 14: 45
      How it will happen - all questions to Kartapolov. He and Dimnatolic have long since turned half of Europe into dust and ashes....
      1. 0
        10 June 2024 14: 54
        Kartapolov defined the expected event, and he was not the only one to do so.
        But decisions will be made at a slightly higher level.
    3. +2
      10 June 2024 14: 56
      The stationing of F-16 fighter jets donated to Kyiv at airfields outside Ukraine makes them a legitimate target for Russian missiles if the planes participate in combat missions. This was stated by the head of the State Duma Defense Committee Andrei Kartapolov, commenting on the words of the commander of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Sergei Golubtsov.

      So this is exactly what the Anglo-Saxons are trying to achieve, so that we destroy some airfield in Poland, Romania or the Baltic states in order to create a world hysteria and force the NATO countries to finance the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Ukraine with triple their strength, and at the same time send their troops to Ukraine.
      Our current and retired politicians and military officers still need to take this aspect into account, and not wave a wooden saber in front of the nose of a heavily armed bandit.
      It's time to look for other ways to respond and not throw around words in vain.
      The world is big and the Anglo-Saxons have boundless “vital interests”, that’s where we need to start, and not provoke an expansion of the front on our borders.
      1. +1
        10 June 2024 15: 05
        A world based on rules, that's for sure! These rules were written by the arrogant Saxons and only in their InterEs...
        What to do? What can be opposed to this?
        1. +2
          10 June 2024 16: 22
          What to do? What can be opposed to this?

          In my opinion, we have only two options: look for alliances and escalate faster than the enemy. Both options can be combined. Otherwise, they will boil you like a frog.
          1. +1
            10 June 2024 18: 04
            The country must come to war, not in parts, but completely...
            This, of course, is an impossible dream, but we still have to come to this, otherwise they will come to us and it will be bad!
        2. 0
          11 June 2024 04: 50
          rocket757 (Victor)
          What to do? What can be opposed to this?

          Take what they give. Expanding its borders to the borders with Germany and all the way to the Norwegian Sea.
          This is not only the land, but also all biological resources and climate.
          And citizens who independently left the territory before the precedent will return to their home in the future. At the same time, with their specialized competencies (experience, knowledge, etc.). and this is exactly the knowledge that is so loved by the citizens of the Russian Federation - when they buy assembled European equipment.
          Only the territory of the Russian Federation will be a little larger and the borders will abut the junction, which will reduce the number of intermediate and buffer states.

          And as they say, “When you take off your head, you don’t cry over your hair,” “Money is lost, you can make it, time is lost, you can’t get it back.”
      2. +5
        10 June 2024 15: 09
        Quote: credo
        Our current and retired politicians and military officers still need to take this aspect into account, and not wave a wooden saber in front of the nose of a heavily armed bandit.

        So you don’t deny that we have an armed bandit in front of us, who approached us not to talk about the weather? You understand that in this case the saber should not be waved in front of the bandit’s face, but somewhere between his head and shoulders?
        1. +5
          10 June 2024 15: 22
          So you don’t deny that we have an armed bandit in front of us, who approached us not to talk about the weather? You understand that in this case the saber should not be waved in front of the bandit’s face, but somewhere between his head and shoulders?

          This was clear even when our government weakly agreed to the absorption of the GDR and other CMEA countries by the NATO bloc, and when the Baltic states were attached there, this became the final touch before the upcoming military adventure of the Anglo-Saxons.
          Since 2022, we have been hearing our politicians keep talking about certain red lines and places of decision-making that should be destroyed, but things are still there.
          The enemy becomes impudent from our toothlessness and modesty at a time when he should feel the tip of our “dagger” in a place just below the groin or in the anus area. angry
          1. +11
            10 June 2024 15: 32
            Well, it's hard to argue with this, but you see, the problem is that you look at our military, political and financial leadership as a single team, with common goals, but in fact there are several clans that are fighting among themselves and external forces in the form of NATO or the IMF, some of them are considered not as opponents, but as allies, and even overlords. It’s surprising that the special operation is going at least the way it’s going
            1. +3
              10 June 2024 16: 20
              some of them are considered not as opponents, but as allies, and even overlords.

              What demand is there for these people, they need to be removed like a tumor. Questions for those who started the SVO, and therefore had specific goals.
              1. +3
                10 June 2024 16: 22
                Quote: IvanIvanov
                some of them are considered not as opponents, but as allies, and even overlords.

                What demand is there for these people, they need to be removed like a tumor. Questions for those who started the SVO, and therefore had specific goals.

                I don’t have a question for those who started it, I have a question for those who prepared it
                1. +4
                  10 June 2024 16: 24
                  I don’t have a question for those who started it, I have a question for those who prepared it

                  Most likely these are the same people. If they are from different clans, then the question for those making the final decision is: why the hell are you keeping personnel that is inadequate to the situation?
                  1. -4
                    10 June 2024 16: 39
                    Quote: IvanIvanov

                    Most likely these are the same people. If they are from different clans, then the question for those making the final decision is: why the hell are you keeping personnel that is inadequate to the situation?

                    Well, it's hard to explain briefly. Imagine, you are appointed as a shop foreman, you see that most of the shop foremen, instead of doing work to order, are doing the work or are generally incompetent, but any attempt to move them rests on their general sabotage. You can, of course, fire them all at once, but in this case they will leave along with the lower-level team, as a result, your workshop, instead of a weak semblance of work, will stop altogether. Or you, by washing and rolling, gradually survive those who are stopping you from working (while not forgetting to protect yourself from those who are surviving you). At the same time, only you are interested in the efficiency of the workshop. Have I clearly described the overall picture? A special operation is one of the elements of that game to eliminate unwanted foremen
                    1. +3
                      10 June 2024 17: 54
                      Quote: faridg7
                      Imagine, you are appointed as a shop foreman, you see that most of the shop foremen, instead of doing work to order, are doing “stuff” or are generally incompetent

                      but this is not the case when it was you, the team, who selected and appointed yourself for many years... many years ago a similar picture existed... since then - almost none of those who were at that moment are left...
                      1. 0
                        10 June 2024 18: 03
                        What if the team is appointed by clans based on the magnitude of their influence? It is not enough to remove a clan person; it is necessary to deprive the clan of the opportunity to put its own person in the financial flow, only in this case something changes due to a reshuffle of personnel. Now there have been changes in the government's power bloc. Theoretically, Shoigu was promoted in rank, but in practice, the clan that Shoigu represents was moved away from the financial flow that passes through the Moscow Region. What kind of undercover games were there before this, if you only know.
                      2. +2
                        10 June 2024 18: 07
                        Well, how can I say.. 90 percent of the “shop workers” (if you even look at the composition of the government) today are connected with the St. Petersburg clan, which has one boss, and now there are clans under it.. and Shoigu, yes, is already dismissed..
                      3. +1
                        10 June 2024 18: 12
                        Quote: 2 level advisor
                        Well, how can I say.. 90 percent of the “shop workers” (if you even look at the composition of the government) today are connected with the St. Petersburg clan, which has one boss, and now there are clans under it.. and Shoigu, yes, is already dismissed..

                        It’s difficult for me to judge the clans in this workshop; I’m a simple mechanic. I see only the general picture - there is a workshop foreman and there is sabotage by a group of foremen who are clearly not appointed by the foreman
                      4. +3
                        10 June 2024 18: 16
                        Quote: faridg7
                        which are clearly not appointed by the master

                        even if their fate in 80-90 is closely connected with him? trained with someone, worked with someone, oh, long before the position... there are 90% of them, just ask... and, for example, when clan Sh. had to be moved, they just moved it, so it can?
                      5. 0
                        10 June 2024 20: 59
                        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                        when the Sh. clan had to be moved, they just moved it, so it can?

                        Is it called simple? organize a “rebellion”, crashing a couple of helicopters, two planes, involve the president of a neighboring country, carry out an investigation into corruption at the top of the Moscow Region. It’s not all that simple and easy.
      3. 0
        10 June 2024 16: 03
        So this is exactly what the Anglo-Saxons are trying to achieve, so that we destroy some airfield in Poland, Romania or the Baltic states

        Well, if they want war, then they will achieve it, which means we definitely shouldn’t hesitate, except to produce and train warheads at an accelerated pace.
        1. +1
          10 June 2024 16: 50
          Quote: IvanIvanov
          Well, if they want war, then they will achieve it, which means we definitely shouldn’t hesitate, except to produce and train warheads at an accelerated pace.

          Exercises on the use of tactical special ammunition were carried out; they included checking the combat readiness of units, equipping delivery vehicles with combat units and entering combat patrol areas (use); a specially invited military attache was even shown the process of installing warheads on carriers. Has anyone been shown the process of dismantling them? For example, I have no doubt that somewhere there, not far from the area where the air defense is being conducted, the units that participated in the “exercises” are still on combat duty.
          1. 0
            11 June 2024 00: 19
            Well, on combat duty and what next? If there is no will to use it, then there is no need to take the gun out of the holster. Is there a will? Or not?
        2. 0
          10 June 2024 18: 12
          You need to have at least 10-20 thousand warheads in this case. Based on the seriousness of the situation.
          1. 0
            10 June 2024 20: 55
            Quote: Sergey Prutkov55
            You need to have at least 10-20 thousand warheads in this case. Based on the seriousness of the situation.

            According to various estimates, there are from 12 to 6 thousand tactical charges in the warehouses of 10GUMO. Who knows how many of them there really are - Rosatom is constantly reprocessing irradiated fuel, and there’s just heaps of this plutonium in it, where should it be put, why not make tactical charges out of it, especially since their number is not limited by any treaties
        3. 0
          11 June 2024 00: 17
          Quote: IvanIvanov
          So this is exactly what the Anglo-Saxons are trying to achieve, so that we destroy some airfield in Poland, Romania or the Baltic states

          Well, if they want war, then they will achieve it, which means we definitely shouldn’t hesitate, except to produce and train warheads at an accelerated pace.


          I hope you’re right and it’s not just the MP who’s tongue-tied
      4. +10
        10 June 2024 16: 03
        Quote: credo
        It's time to look for other ways to respond and not throw around words in vain.

        There’s no need to look for anything, otherwise we’ll spend another 2,5 years “searching.” It is necessary to stop the operation of railway and road transport with neighboring countries. So that when the wheels turn, it immediately arrives! And finally turn off the sewer! And yes, finally stop refueling Ukrainian tanks! am
        1. +11
          10 June 2024 16: 13
          There’s no need to look for anything, otherwise we’ll spend another 2,5 years “searching.” It is necessary to stop the operation of railway and road transport with neighboring countries. So that when the wheels turn, it immediately arrives! And finally turn off the sewer!...

          By the way, about the sewer.
          When you listen and read the domestic media, which reprint Ukrainian groans and NATO tears about the knocked out energy capacity in Ukraine, of which no more than 30% are supposedly left, you understand that this is the usual misinformation.
          If it were so, residents of all Ukrainian cities would have long ago moved from there to the banks of rivers and lakes in order to relieve themselves and drink water, because the water supply does not work without electricity. But there is no mass exodus of citizens, which means that the power supply in Ukraine is more or less in order, which is why electric trains run across the border and throughout the country and there is a constant supply of weapons to the front.
          We do not understand the logic of our leadership, which does not give the command to reset electricity in Ukraine.
          1. +1
            10 June 2024 16: 20
            Quote: credo
            We do not understand the logic of our leadership, which does not give the command to reset electricity in Ukraine.

            There are still three nuclear power plants left - whether you like it or not, they produce a decent amount of electricity. But if you cut down the water and shit pumps, there will be an effect. Here, at least you shine like a light bulb, but you can’t run into the courtyard from the 24th floor...
            1. +5
              10 June 2024 16: 24
              There are still three nuclear power plants left - whether you like it or not, they produce a decent amount of electricity. But if you cut down the water and shit pumps, there will be an effect. Here, at least you shine like a light bulb, but you can’t run into the courtyard from the 24th floor...

              The fact of the matter is that if the power grid in Ukraine is reset, according to the general rules for operating nuclear power plants, they must be stopped. So it's just a matter of our decision.
              By the way, as far as I understand, we stopped the Zaporozhye NPP precisely because of the liquidation of the APU transmission networks from the station. hi
              1. 0
                10 June 2024 16: 27
                So we stopped it, our specialists. Can you imagine if the process is taken over by x-holes?! belay Three nuclear power plants! Chernobyl may seem like a children's sandbox...
                But destroying water intake and treatment stations is a useful thing. And keep an eye on the repairmen - wait until they repair and start up - and again! wassat
                Moreover, large cities and million-population cities need to be a nightmare. Fellow sufferers, instead of tears and screams, I advise you to go to the Avenue of Angels...
      5. -1
        10 June 2024 16: 33
        force NATO countries to triple the funding of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and Ukraine

        You might think that before this there is no funding with triple strength, they are already using all their opportunities for financing, so this must be taken into account, and not wave a saber in front of one’s nose, but already begin to cut off the parts that are especially zealous...
        1. 0
          10 June 2024 16: 40
          You might think that before this there is no funding with triple strength, they are already using all their opportunities for financing, so this must be taken into account, and not wave a saber in front of one’s nose, but already begin to cut off the parts that are especially zealous...

          Knowing the tight-fisted nature of all European satellites, the Anglo-Saxons understand perfectly well that simple persuasion no longer works on their subordinates and they should be stimulated by a real threat of destruction, and for this they are provoking Russia.
          1. +1
            10 June 2024 17: 52
            This is precisely what Russia is being provoked to do.

            And you consider the war at the hands of the Ukronazis to be a provocation, but I believe that this is not a provocation, but a full-fledged war to destroy Russia, and they don’t even hide it...
      6. 0
        11 June 2024 07: 02
        Quote: credo
        So this is exactly what the Anglo-Saxons are trying to achieve, so that we destroy some airfield

        I think they do what we allow. If they get punched in the teeth once, they’ll shut up and complain to the whole world.
        The only question is: “How long? How long can you endure these humiliations?”
    4. -1
      10 June 2024 15: 22
      Quote: rocket757
      The question is, is this another red line or

      Or brown? smile
      1. -2
        10 June 2024 15: 51
        We have enough people who draw the lines... but they are not the ones who make the decisions.
        By the way, the one who makes the decisions speaks much less than the others...
        It seems to be correct, but still, a lot of things are not clear in a way that is concrete and without discrepancies.
        1. +6
          10 June 2024 16: 00
          A chess player can be cunning as he likes, only as a result the situation degrades from diapers to all types of weapons except tiao. Maybe there is something wrong with the cunning/cunning one?
    5. +4
      10 June 2024 15: 54
      Kartapolov: NATO airfields will become a legitimate target if they are used for F-16 combat sorties by the Ukrainian Armed Forces

      We have already seen how weapons unloading stations for the Armed Forces of Ukraine become a legitimate target for Russian missiles...
      Tired of watching how drones, AWACS and other flying crap, transmitting intelligence data to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and leading Ukrainian drones to the target, become legal targets...
      In the ruins lie warehouses from which rockets are pouring in, bringing death to the inhabitants of Russian cities...
      This has never happened before, and here again!
    6. -2
      10 June 2024 16: 20
      It was smooth on paper. You still need to prove use. That a specific plane took off from a specific airfield, and this flight was a combat flight :)
      1. +3
        10 June 2024 16: 47
        You still need to prove the use

        To whom to prove? If you hit it, it means you’re right! Let him shit himself out of fear, otherwise he’ll have to prove it to him.
        The main thing is to hit with the greatest damage.
    7. +4
      10 June 2024 16: 35
      For this, the Russian Federation must launch a nuclear strike on these airfields!
      1. +1
        10 June 2024 18: 01
        Without anticipating events, just wait and see what happens.
    8. +3
      10 June 2024 18: 50
      The question is, is this another red line or will it definitely happen?
      Another red line will definitely happen. wassat
  2. +11
    10 June 2024 14: 43
    But I doubt that our leadership will decide to hit NATO airfields.... And the kakels found an excuse - like they will keep “spare” and “training” aircraft there.....

    And what difference does it make where they keep them - they took off from Romania, scraped their wheels along the runway of an airfield in Ukraine for show (sat down for 5 minutes), stood there and continued to hit us - is this already taking off from Ukraine or not?
    1. +5
      10 June 2024 14: 50
      Do you have any doubts? And you're doing it right! Today Sushki and Migi live in Poland and Romania and only fly to Xxxxxlndia to work. Why is f16 worse or better?
    2. 0
      10 June 2024 16: 30
      Almost everyone has doubted this for a long time, but a handful of naive people probably still remain. Power is the face of the people, if the people doubt, then the government will support us in this with both hands winked
    3. 0
      10 June 2024 17: 59
      I doubt it

      Similarly, everyone saw how the pale “guarantor” acted, frightened by the fact that he had started the SVO, by his own action. If I were brave, then there wouldn’t be endless red lines, but it was - said, did...
      And the fact that he served in intelligence in his youth is not because of courage, but because he went to serve in the authorities in order to hide behind these authorities...
  3. +5
    10 June 2024 14: 43
    They may become a legitimate target, or they may not. How Putin will wake up. It doesn't matter to him. According to my mood.
  4. +6
    10 June 2024 14: 44
    Declaring does not mean bombing.
  5. +4
    10 June 2024 14: 44
    Very familiar words. Another red line.
  6. +7
    10 June 2024 14: 44
    Corrupt officials of the Moscow Region are still a legitimate target, but this does not mean that they are in any danger. It’s the same in NATO countries - the goal is legal, but no one will force the investigator to start an investigation
  7. +2
    10 June 2024 14: 45
    Is it time to run for another pack of red pencils? Fresh food... We must do, not talk.
  8. +5
    10 June 2024 14: 46
    You listen to people like Kartapolov, Gurulev...you feel ashamed of the army.
    1. 0
      10 June 2024 14: 52
      So, probably such decisions - to hit NATO airfields - are made not by the army, but by the top leadership...
  9. +2
    10 June 2024 14: 46
    Of course, this is logical, but they don’t seem to have any problems with concrete hangars. And you’ll have a lot of trouble breaking hangars. (There’s a ball under a cup, there’s a ball under a cup) I’m talking about the price of such statements. The air base must be destroyed at once with a 100% guarantee and this is not Kartapolov is in charge. I'm tired of listening to deputies. Matvienko, no matter what, she is second in rank.
  10. +4
    10 June 2024 14: 49
    It seems that characters higher up in the Kremlin food chain will not agree with the head of the defense committee. More precisely, they will find 1000 and one reasons to stick their heads in the sand. The maximum is another stand-up from the formidable Maria, and the LADY will again be given a telephone, and he, in turn, will put on a sofa general’s jacket..
  11. +5
    10 June 2024 14: 55
    Blah blah blah blah blah blah am blah blah blah soldier blah blah blah am angry blah
  12. 0
    10 June 2024 14: 59
    It would not be bad if this idea was conveyed by someone from the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff of the Russian Federation. So that the enemy has no doubt that there will be a response. Otherwise, they will completely sit on your neck.
    1. +7
      10 June 2024 15: 26
      I don’t remember verbatim, but once there was a statement by the former Minister of Defense that if there are attacks on our territory by Western weapons, then we will respond in kind.
      You know the result.
    2. -1
      10 June 2024 17: 55
      They write that recently the new Ministry of Defense is gathering military correspondents and bloggers on military topics. Let's see what comes out. I hope that the guys will not be shy and will say a lot of interesting things
  13. +1
    10 June 2024 14: 59
    Everything is correct - but who will give the order??????..Who is not pissed??
  14. +2
    10 June 2024 14: 59
    Such a statement should be made by Belousov or Gerasimov, and so that words do not diverge from deeds, then they will listen and hear
  15. +2
    10 June 2024 15: 04
    Quote: Nexcom
    So, probably such decisions - to hit NATO airfields - are made not by the army, but by the top leadership...

    But talk about attacks on airfields? They don’t hit Bankovskaya, but here they got excited
  16. +2
    10 June 2024 15: 05
    Quote: Gory
    Everything is correct - but who will give the order??????..Who is not pissed??

    It's good to tease a dog with a stranger....
  17. +7
    10 June 2024 15: 18
    Kartapolov is a typical jingoist, propagandist and representative of Solovyovism, that says it all. I found a good part-time job to supplement my parliamentary salary in the form of trading my face on all kinds of political talk shows.
  18. +1
    10 June 2024 15: 19
    Kargapolov revealed a terrible state secret. But we thought that NATO airfields had always been the target of our strategic forces for the last 70 years..... And our military was not interested in legal issues. And there it is!

    It turns out that for these 70 years NATO troops from airfields have not threatened us at all, and only now.....? I'm shocked....Where is the money that was spent on defense for 70 years?
    1. 0
      11 June 2024 00: 28
      The money was spent on yachts, palaces and mistresses.
  19. +5
    10 June 2024 15: 24
    Judging by the number of statements since the beginning of the SVO, we have these legitimate goals of “a carriage and a small cart.” The result is known to everyone. request
  20. +1
    10 June 2024 15: 25
    A strike on a NATO airfield will spread throughout the world as Russian aggression against the democratic world, about which Western politicians have been warning their population for so long. And here it is, “aggression,” even if it is not aggression, but a retaliatory strike for the purpose of defense.
    Who will listen to us and whether they will hear us at all, especially in the West.
    I have been saying for a long time that there is no longer international law in the world, there is force and financial power that forms this force. Whoever has them is the one who is “right”.
    It’s high time for Russia to stop paying attention to international institutions, especially now that we are being openly killed. Especially after Israel and Gaza.
    1. 0
      11 June 2024 05: 05
      Reaper (Reaper)
      Iii?
      Why does the Russian Federation need someone to listen to it?
      Judged by deeds! With one hand - answer (hit), with the other hand - welcome (develop economically beneficial alliances for you and others).
  21. +2
    10 June 2024 15: 29
    well, for an empty car there is no demand from the fraters, he said, he took it
  22. +2
    10 June 2024 15: 33
    How interesting it is to read the comments... especially those who here, foaming at the mouth, advocated for the strike of tactical nuclear weapons... And now the agenda has changed slightly - they allow themselves to condemn the top management and the red lines... Your deeds are wonderful smile
  23. +8
    10 June 2024 15: 39
    The placement of F-16 fighters transferred to Kyiv at airfields outside of Ukraine makes them legitimate purpose for Russian missiles

    Now, just for fun, I entered the key phrase “legitimate purpose” into the VO search
    Ten pages!
    Ten pages, 240 articles.
    We already considered satellite reconnaissance a legitimate target, and training camps for Ukrainian Armed Forces abroad, and Rheinmetall enterprises, and NATO transports with weapons for Ukraine, and all nuclear facilities of NATO countries, and...
    It's easier to list what we don't consider our legitimate purpose
  24. +7
    10 June 2024 15: 50
    I remember a couple of years ago, in our media, some Western politician of the 3rd category was a laughing stock, who also prophesied in the spirit of “If they (Russians) ... then we ... wow!” They rightly laughed at the fact that such a thing was said by a person 1) who did not have official authority to do so and b) who did not have his own strength and means to implement what was said. Afterwards I got tired of counting how many of our deputies, etc. behaved in the same way (even to the point of talking about nuclear war)... and at the same time no one laughs at them and no one pulls them back. Although maybe Are they laughed at abroad?
  25. +8
    10 June 2024 15: 54
    Lord... and such people rule us? They still can’t cope with Ukrainian airfields
  26. +7
    10 June 2024 15: 55
    This man, at the age of 21, was dismissed from the Ministry of Defense by GARANT with the wording (relieved from his position) in connection with his election to the State Duma, to the party EAT RUSSIA, there are only dreamers with offshore companies and dual citizenship. Unfortunately, they are no different from RADA.
  27. 0
    10 June 2024 16: 01
    Don't scold the pianist, that's his job. Talking is not moving bags. You have to declare yourself, show yourself, etc. This is practically showbiz, if you don’t talk about yourself, they will forget.
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  29. +3
    10 June 2024 16: 15
    Again, 25, you know, it seems to me more and more that our senushis are blah blah blah about the fact that we will crush hedgehogs with our naked butts, it’s just stupid PR, cheap hype for gaining points, like I’m such a hawk, and I’m so tired of listening to the next one the storyteller about the fact (what if we hit you like that) that just yesterday you want to hit us, because while blah blah blah we hit you, our guys are dying who are waiting for WE to hit you, so all this neighborhood riffraff will go on tour to Bandera
  30. +6
    10 June 2024 16: 17
    Oh, stop talking already, Mr. Kartopolov about some kind of legitimate goals... Russia is being bullied from all over with everything possible. They hit air defense systems, destroy oil refineries and the latest Su57s at airfields. They are hitting residential areas of Lugansk, Shebekino and Belgorod. People are dying. Maybe stop looking for legitimate goals and get down to business, huh? Idle talkers
  31. +2
    10 June 2024 16: 21
    Who is Kartapolov? Will he decide whether to hit or not to hit? An armchair expert who is not responsible for anything.
  32. +1
    10 June 2024 16: 25
    NATO airfields will become a legitimate target

    As in the joke: 50/50. Maybe they will, maybe they won’t. The second, given some fear of the authorities to launch a preemptive strike, is more likely.
  33. -2
    10 June 2024 16: 31
    Let's see what happens! NATO is no longer afraid, it is speaking out openly! I hope that the Russian Federation will launch a nuclear strike on these airfields for this!
    1. -1
      10 June 2024 18: 04
      For starters, cassette rocket heads will suffice. Not all at once!
  34. +3
    10 June 2024 16: 36
    A formidable statement, taking into account the fact that it is not for him to make the decision and it is not for him to answer either.

    However, even if we recognize these very airfields as a “legitimate target,” then what will we do with it? Shall we mark it with a red marker? Or will we fight with NATO?

    IMHO, the Ukrainian Armed Forces will not attack Russia from NATO airfields. They won't be given it.
  35. +2
    10 June 2024 16: 55
    There are not enough eggs to bomb Poland and Romania. The litaki will remain safe and sound until they meet the rocket in the air. There is nothing more to comment here.
  36. +1
    10 June 2024 17: 02
    We also need to declare as legitimate targets aircraft and drones that carry out reconnaissance and target designation near our borders, even in neutral waters. Mattresses would have done this a long time ago.
  37. +3
    10 June 2024 17: 06
    Who is Kartapolov and what is his relation to the RF Armed Forces?
  38. 0
    10 June 2024 17: 20
    Quote: AC130 Ganship
    Who is Kartapolov and what is his relation to the RF Armed Forces?

    Who is “AC130 Ganship” and what does it have to do with the aircraft? I don’t know this, but Kartopolov is a deputy and someone elected him
    1. +1
      10 June 2024 18: 03
      Quote: Strannik96
      Who is “AC130 Ganship” and what does it have to do with the aircraft? I don’t know this, but Kartopolov is a deputy and someone elected him

      and which of them decides what the RF Armed Forces will do? nobody? This means they are no different in this matter.
    2. 0
      10 June 2024 18: 28
      Kartopolov is a deputy and someone elected him

      No one elected him, he became a locomotive of a deputy, we have an election system like this, you don’t personally elect anyone, only parties, and I don’t understand who sits in the State Duma... And they created this system for themselves, so that there would be pocket deputies...
  39. +3
    10 June 2024 17: 39
    They ask about the SVO, they say, why.... Apparently this is an insult for sending our NATO ultimatum in three letters. And Donbass and its immensely suffering people... Well, there were the Minsk agreements, to which there was no alternative, and according to them Donbass had to be shoved into Ukraine. It was only later that one knight was deceived once again...
  40. +1
    10 June 2024 17: 45
    Nata violated the previous red lines outlined by the Russian Federation with impunity - moving to the east, supplying heavy weapons, using prohibited ammunition, and therefore Nata has no reason to comply with the current red line of the Russian Federation, especially since the Duma is not a military, but a political structure and does not have real influence on the course of the war
  41. 0
    10 June 2024 18: 01
    It's a clever idea. Under the guise of pilot training in Romania and Poland, they will hide some of the planes abroad. After the raid on Russia, cover your tracks there. Who are the smartest? And others won't understand? What oak tree did you climb out of and what did you smoke? It is necessary to track the actual deployment of aircraft striking Russians. They figured out how to hide after terrorist attacks, ensuring impunity. And at airfields in the outskirts they will put up mock-ups. We know all this! Get it!
  42. 0
    10 June 2024 18: 52
    ..........................................
    1. +1
      11 June 2024 00: 32
      Let's click, the guarantor said
      1. 0
        14 June 2024 22: 48
        We trust the guarantor, he always does what he promises - that’s what they say on TV, and we also trust TV.
  43. +1
    10 June 2024 19: 04
    And the MiGs and Su's taking off from there, with NATO missiles, doesn't make them like that? Speaking words is not cutting wood, deputy in one word.
    1. 0
      11 June 2024 01: 26
      Is there a red line in the picture or not?
      1. +1
        11 June 2024 07: 34
        No, I don't see anything. (Irony and sarcasm)
  44. 0
    11 June 2024 07: 52
    F-16s and their airfields outside of Ukraine will become a legitimate target for the Russian military if they participate in combat missions,
    Kartapolov emphasized.
    If only the horse could resist the weight of what lies on it (the horse), and it would be better to remain silent about what is behind the horse...
  45. +2
    11 June 2024 09: 05
    a manual without action doesn’t scare anyone. Maybe stop talking about the ONE thing over and over again..
  46. +2
    11 June 2024 10: 32
    I do not believe. Medvedev also promised Armageddon for shelling Russian territories.
  47. kvv
    0
    12 June 2024 13: 27
    Kartapolov is now a chatterbox from the Duma, now he is not responsible for his words, so he says that he is in trend
  48. 0
    12 June 2024 16: 35
    Alla NATO adesso bastano i Satelliti per mirare gli obiettivi russi da abbattere con i missili Amerikani!