A US Army colonel spoke about the alleged use of a Patriot air defense system several months ago against an A-50 AWACS aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces over the Sea of ​​Azov

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A US Army colonel spoke about the alleged use of a Patriot air defense system several months ago against an A-50 AWACS aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces over the Sea of ​​Azov

The Russian A-50 long-range radar surveillance and control aircraft, allegedly shot down in January of this year over the Sea of ​​Azov, was hit by an anti-aircraft missile from the American Patriot air defense system. This statement was made by Assistant Chief of Staff of the 10th US Army Rosanna Clemente.

A US Army colonel in an interview explained the principle of air defense systems hunting Russian aircraft, which the Americans taught to the Ukrainians. According to her, the Patriot anti-aircraft systems transferred to Kyiv are used both to protect some objects and as “roaming” systems along the front. It was one of these complexes that ambushed a Russian AWACS A-50 aircraft operating over the Sea of ​​Azov.



The plane was hit by an anti-aircraft missile with an active seeker, from which it is impossible to escape after capturing the target. Clemente did not disclose other details, but noted that American air defense systems were also involved in the destruction of other Russian aircraft. The tactics of hunting aircraft, invented in the United States, are constantly being improved and brought to allies, including Ukraine.

Let us note that the alleged defeat of the Russian A-50 over the Sea of ​​Azov was actively reported by Ukrainian resources; there was no confirmation from the Russian Ministry of Defense. According to reports, in mid-January, an A-50 and an Il-22M, which managed to land in Anapa, were hit over the sea.
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  1. -13
    10 June 2024 10: 42
    This is our response for the statement about the supply of weapons to unfriendly regimes for the United States. Well, here we go, SPIEF is over. We have a base in Niger and maybe in Djibouti (it all depends on Samali).
    1. +2
      10 June 2024 10: 53
      There will be a Russian military base in Niger, but the most important thing, I think, is the Russian Navy base in Sudan on the Red Sea. good
      1. 0
        10 June 2024 11: 00
        I want Djibouti, we will be friends with the Chinese. The Americans have a very good berth line. The PRC has a naval base in Djibouti. hi
        1. -3
          10 June 2024 11: 14
          And what are “Varyag” and “Marshal Shaposhnikov” doing? They could pass through the strait between Sicily and “Boot” and convey warm greetings to Meloni. Russia is far away, Russia is nearby. Isn’t the anniversary of the Sicilian earthquake right around the corner, by chance?
          1. +2
            10 June 2024 13: 44
            Quote: tralflot1832
            What are “Varyag” and “Marshal Shaposhnikov” doing here?

            Let's go to Latin America. Apparently they will visit Cuba.
            So that Gorshkov won’t be too bored there when Yasen leaves.
            1. +2
              10 June 2024 13: 46
              Thanks Alexey, I don’t know at all. So they can imagine a 100% circumnavigation. hi
              1. +1
                10 June 2024 13: 48
                Quote: tralflot1832
                Thanks Alexey,

                Semen Semenych! wink
                1. +1
                  10 June 2024 13: 51
                  I apologize Alexander hi , for reasons beyond my control, I don’t have time to correct the text. SVO however. I live in the mountains above sea level.
                  1. +1
                    10 June 2024 14: 48
                    Quote: tralflot1832
                    SVO however.

                    Or “It’s high though..”? drinks
                    1. +2
                      10 June 2024 14: 54
                      Both. There’s nothing more to say. Otherwise I’m afraid they’ll knock on the door. laughing drinks
                    2. +1
                      10 June 2024 16: 37
                      Alexander, don’t give your source at the Russian Navy headquarters any more. laughing drinksLet's go to Djibouti!!!
                      1. +1
                        10 June 2024 17: 48
                        Uh my friend.
                        https://flot.com/2024/511236/?sphrase_id=7512632
                        https://russian.rt.com/world/news/1324691-rossiya-korabli-ucheniya-karibskoe-more

                        Moscow was not built in a day. They will also reach Cuba.
            2. +1
              10 June 2024 17: 23
              Quote: Alex777
              Apparently they will visit Cuba.
              So that Gorshkov won’t be too bored there when Yasen leaves.

              So it seems that both “Gorshkov” and “Kazan” are assigned duty in the Caribbean until the end of summer. It looks like they decided to strengthen our group of ships there, and it’s not a fact that the second group of ships doesn’t even have its own submarine underwater, because Yasenei-M is also enough for the Pacific Fleet. And somehow... a certain beauty is being drawn:
              - 16 + 16 = 32 cells for "Zircons" (and "Calibers", but I would not recommend) on "Gorshkov" and "Shaposhnikov",
              - 8 X-35 anti-ship missiles at Shaposhnikov,
              - 16 heavy anti-ship missiles on the Varyag,
              - 32 + 32 = 64 cells for “Zircons” on two “Ash” trees,
              - from 12 to 20 "Caliber" missiles of various types and purposes on two submarines for firing through the TA.
              Those. up to 96 Zircons for the east coast of the USA (the rest for self-defense).
              It is beautiful .

              Another Yasen-M may approach the west coast.

              I heard that Biden is very bad, but he doesn’t have an understudy. So anything is possible. hi
              1. 0
                10 June 2024 17: 51
                Quote: bayard
                So it seems that both "Gorshkov" and "Kazan" are scheduled to be on duty in the Caribbean until the end of summer

                "Kazan" is listed among the participants in the parade in St. Petersburg.

                Quote: bayard
                I heard that Biden is really bad, but he doesn’t have an understudy.

                The crisis in the United States is upon us. That’s why there are no people willing to replace Biden. Only Trump. And then, Trump said that it would be better if the crisis began before his victory. Otherwise they will call it the Trump crisis. And it’s as if he had nothing to do with it.
                I believe that Sunak rushed from the crisis to early elections.
                And Macron ordered re-elections to pin this crisis on Le Pen...
                1. +2
                  10 June 2024 18: 18
                  Quote: Alex777
                  "Kazan" is listed among the participants in the parade in St. Petersburg.

                  I know about this, but those plans were made earlier, and there were no rumors about a campaign in Cuba and Venezuela. So they could have replayed it. Yesterday in the “Results of the Week” program it was said that after Cuba the detachment is going on training in Venezuela, and then serving in the Caribbean until the end of the summer. Without Kazan, such a service does not make much sense, because what is needed now is not show-off, but a sufficient number of hypersonic missiles at a dagger-like distance from enemy shores.
                  And at the end of the summer another frigate may come to replace it from the Northern Fleet. And also with PLA in a duet. Just like in the good old days of the Cold War.
                  And I would completely cancel such parades. We have warships with Gulkin's pimple, the shipbuilding program has been disrupted again (last year the frigate was not delivered, but there should have been one last year and two this year), with the launch of "Nakhimov" and "Kuznetsov" for testing, it is also unheard of, but already summer . What kind of parades, when it can blaze at any moment. And this is no longer a game of “crazy Reagan,” they really have “the cuckoo has flown away.”
                  Quote: Alex777
                  And Macron ordered re-elections to pin this crisis on Le Pen...

                  Yes, in a good part of European countries the right is coming to power. But this certainly won’t do any good for us either.
                  1. +1
                    10 June 2024 22: 40
                    Quote: bayard
                    because now it’s not show-offs that are needed, but a sufficient number of hypersonic missiles at a dagger-like distance from enemy shores

                    Have you heard about the tests of Zircon with SSGNs? Me not.
                    Hypersound carriers: Gorshkov, possibly Shaposhnikov.

                    Quote: bayard
                    And I would completely cancel such parades. We have warships with Gulkin's pimple

                    War is a path of deception. We can only watch.
                    Now everything that we could realistically send to Cuba has been sent. hi
                    1. 0
                      10 June 2024 23: 26
                      Quote: Alex777
                      Have you heard about the tests of Zircon with SSGNs? Me not.

                      It was even shown on TV - one or two missiles were launched, the first missile was definitely from a surface position (a couple of years ago), the second one I don’t remember from which one, maybe it wasn’t even there. They said the tests will continue. If there were subsequent tests, then they were definitely not reported, but we were not informed about the Burevestnik tests either, and they have already gone through the full cycle. So in two years they could already test and allow at least trial operation for the Zircon submarines. The meaning of "Yaseni-M" is as a SSGN only with "Zircons", which has always been implied, so I would not be surprised at their presence on board the "Kazan".
                      But even just 40 “Calibers” close to the United States is also not bad.
                      Quote: Alex777
                      Now everything that we could realistically send to Cuba has been sent.

                      We could do more, but this is more likely a demonstration of intentions for the United States and a demonstration of support for allies and friends in the region. And yes, war is a path of deception. hi
                  2. +2
                    10 June 2024 22: 47
                    Quote: bayard
                    Yes, in a good part of European countries the right is coming to power. But this certainly won’t do any good for us either.

                    This is generally a separate topic for discussion.
                    I can sketch out this as a starting point:
                    1. Sunak's resignation,
                    2. Re-elections in France,
                    3. Resignation in Belgium,
                    4. Türkiye in BRICS,
                    5. Biden is indispensable for Democrats.
                    6. Bibi resigns.
                    7. Picture of foreign policy visits of GDP (DPRK and Vietnam in the plan).

                    Coincidence? I do not think. hi
        2. 0
          10 June 2024 11: 21
          There is a time for everything, if you need a Russian Navy base in Djibouti, then there will be one. wink hi
    2. +4
      10 June 2024 11: 02
      In January, a response to the June statement?
      Rather, a statement is a response, and so far, say, not a single NATO AWACS has fallen. But it should be, it should be long ago.
      1. -2
        10 June 2024 11: 04
        They are pulling our ears, we can repeat it. Russians, give up! This is how I perceive it. Could the United States just remain silent.
        1. +3
          10 June 2024 11: 12
          But I think seriously - we have the longest-range missiles against aviation, Avaks, Poseidons and Reapers are actively working against us (contrary to chatter), hanging over the Black Sea, but we don’t shoot them down...
          Escalation? What, only they can?
          And...the Chinese version is interesting, when the launch vehicle, having launched the load into orbit, “accidentally” shifts into the Starlink orbit and there is destroyed into bolts and nuts. Firstly, these satellites do not belong to any state, they are private, however, and secondly, in space something always spoils and breaks down not according to plan.
          I think these two steps would greatly cleanse the power of both the Pentagon and Canon.
          And “we’ll think about it” no longer scares anyone except newspapermen and the media, and even then, with the goal of “you see...”
        2. -1
          10 June 2024 11: 19
          Quote: tralflot1832
          .Could the US just remain silent?

          And what is this individual from the class of primates happy about? They shot down the A-50, IL-22, IL-76, but how many mattresses died, along with their over-praised "Patriots"? And the Iron Dome is a colander. wassat Let him continue to rejoice, the candidate for the Zoo. hi
          1. -3
            10 June 2024 11: 20
            They simply remind you of themselves in their own style. hi
            1. -5
              10 June 2024 11: 22
              Quote: tralflot1832
              They simply remind you of themselves in their own style.

              If I had experienced the “Russian style” for myself, I would have lisped differently with my mouth. tongue
              1. -2
                10 June 2024 11: 28
                Yes, a Russian beret with a mug makes the brain turn on - why am I talking about this. But with the USA everything is very complicated, they won’t just give up. But they have weaknesses. Funny thing - the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the Central Bank of the world, gold came in second place, ahead of €. The EU has already jumped.
                1. -1
                  10 June 2024 11: 34
                  Quote: tralflot1832
                  Gold and foreign exchange reserves of the Central Bank of the world, gold came into second place, ahead of the €. The EU has already jumped.

                  The euro is a derivative of the dollar. It survived only thanks to trade with the Russian Federation for the euro. Now in BRICS there is only a debate about the gold standard. If it is accepted, it will be difficult to imagine the depth of the fall of currencies pegged to the dollar. hi
                  1. -1
                    10 June 2024 11: 44
                    I wouldn’t play with gold, which is a very risky asset, but I’m all for stirring up something digital. Although I don’t understand a damn thing about these coins. I guess it’s a scam.
                    1. 0
                      10 June 2024 11: 52
                      Quote: tralflot1832
                      I wouldn’t play with gold, it’s a very risky asset

                      Why is he risky? Is it rusting? Dries out? Evaporates? Lying underfoot? Can it be made from something? The only puncture with gold was discovered, and then, Bank employees pressed gold coins with force, after which they burned the cloth and enriched themselves with the gold rubbed on it. (Golden Fleece) And the smart-ass shareholders of the Fed sold China gold with tungsten inserts, but the Chinese are not suckers! We discovered this and realized that the “gentlemen” had no faith in their word. hi
                      1. -2
                        10 June 2024 12: 01
                        Gold is a “dead” asset that you can’t eat. It took us 10 years to cross the “damned line” of 2300 tons. Although the annual gold production is 200 tons.
                      2. +2
                        10 June 2024 18: 49
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        Gold is a “dead” asset that cannot be eaten.

                        belay I saw videos where they eat gold! Even here you are wrong. wassat
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        It took us 10 years to cross the “damned line” of 2300 tons.

                        Gold backing for one ruble is possible even if you have one kilogram of gold! Only this provision will be measured in nanograms, 10 to the minus hundredth power. lol
                        What happened with the US Federal Reserve System, in the 70s they abandoned the gold backing of the dollar, and received an uncontrolled issue, that is, the ability to print as many banknotes as there was enough paper and ink for. request Why did this happen ? The countries that gave their gold to Fort Knox stopped replenishing its reserves. And international trade required more and more money (currency) for settlements, and Fed shareholders simply abandoned the gold standard.
                        My proposal is to release the same dollar, but under a different name. For trade not regulated by the US Federal Reserve. But the US Federal Reserve's mistakes need to be corrected. Provide the “Brix” with a gold standard, put the entire process under the control of specialists in the monetary economy of the BRICS countries, the BRICS Central Bank, storage of gold and issuance of currency, set up in a neutral country, for example in Mongolia. hi
                      3. +3
                        10 June 2024 18: 52
                        I drank vodka with gold leaf in South Africa, it’s okay, 12 bucks duty free in Walvis Bay, now I don’t know how much it costs there.
                      4. +3
                        10 June 2024 19: 30
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        I drank vodka with gold leaf, nothing went wrong in South Africa,

                        They didn’t “slap” gold smuggling? lol Or did the clever bourgeoisie force them to leave it and add purgena to the vodka? wassat Where is the world heading? They bathe in baths with oil, animal blood, champagne, eat and drink gold, toilets made of gold, cars covered in gold... They go crazy with fat. hi
                      5. +1
                        11 June 2024 11: 50
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        Gold is a “dead” asset that you can’t eat. It took us 10 years to cross the “damned line” of 2300 tons. Although the annual gold production is 200 tons.

                        I can't agree with you here.
                        1. To introduce the gold standard in a new way, everyone must have a little of this gold.
                        2. Our gold reserves did not grow because, for step 1, we sold it to everyone who understood.
                        3. In return, we safely relieved those who understood of candy wrappers, which could depreciate at any moment, and immediately invested them in the development of our military-industrial complex.
                        I think everything is beautifully conceived and done. hi
                      6. +1
                        11 June 2024 12: 16
                        Alexander, this happened earlier, but we resold the artel’s gold. And now the artels have been abandoned for free grain. It seems that there is an artel with 100% capital. But what bad things are planned there with taxes.
                2. +5
                  10 June 2024 11: 51
                  Quote: tralflot1832
                  Yes ,Russian beret in a mug makes the brain turn on - what am I talking about?

                  As usual, illiterate crap:
                  In the Russian language, there is a group of nouns that are used only in the plural and do not form a singular form.

                  For example: ankle boots, trousers, glasses, name day...
        3. +1
          10 June 2024 11: 44
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Russians give up! That's how I perceive it. Or the United States could simply remain silent.

          The air force's strikes on drones and a couple of missile strikes (Zircons) on American military bases in Syria will shut them up... And explain (if necessary) - Assad gave the coordinates of terrorist bases, and we have an agreement... feel
          1. +2
            10 June 2024 19: 32
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Assad gave the coordinates of terrorist bases, and we have an agreement...

            laughing This is called - to squint under Psaki. hi
    3. 0
      10 June 2024 11: 49
      What does this have to do with the answer? Our Ministry of Defense should have known everything about the defeat/non-defeat of these planes by the Patriot for a long time from the fragments and holes in the body. But, it seems, the A50 flew “further than the furthest” from the affected area
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    5. kig
      0
      11 June 2024 17: 02
      Quote: tralflot1832
      it all depends on Samali

      Not everything is written as it is heard.
  2. AAK
    +3
    10 June 2024 10: 43
    So what? What was the reaction to such actions from our highest political leadership and military command? And the same as always...
    1. -1
      10 June 2024 10: 53
      Why? They're moving the border by 300 or however many kilometers.
    2. +1
      10 June 2024 11: 05
      Tough? laughing Well, the leadership is not ready for such decisions. Remember “An Ordinary Miracle” by Zakharov. There the king stood next to his wife, who was being strangled, and repeated: “be patient, maybe everything will work out”... Russia in the role of that same king, with new “heralds”.
    3. 0
      10 June 2024 13: 55
      ////////So what? What was the reaction to such actions from our highest political leadership and military command? And the same as always...///////////

      The answer is standard. As usual. This will not change the situation on the battlefield. (WITH)
  3. 0
    10 June 2024 10: 43
    You don’t even know what’s worse, “friendly,” or from the enemy. Happy memory to the heroic pilots.
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  5. -7
    10 June 2024 10: 45
    there is hope that under Belousov the situation can change in our Moscow Region
    1. +4
      10 June 2024 10: 56
      Revive rotten fish? Highly doubtful. An operation was performed for the plebs (fight against windmills).. By the way, how are Serdyukov and Vasilyeva doing?
      1. +2
        10 June 2024 11: 10
        By the way, how are Serdyukov and Vasilyeva doing?

        Well, judging by the fact that they stopped writing about them, they are doing well, definitely 100 times better than us.
  6. +2
    10 June 2024 10: 46
    The Russian A-50 long-range radar surveillance and control aircraft, allegedly shot down in January of this year over the Sea of ​​Azov, was hit by an anti-aircraft missile from the American Patriot air defense system.

    It may well be true. We ordinary citizens are not allowed to know this. And even if it was an S-300 missile, it wouldn’t change anything. The Americans definitely highlighted the A-50.
    1. +5
      10 June 2024 10: 51
      The AWACS aircraft does not need to be “illuminated”; it itself “glows” like a Christmas tree due to its operating principle.
      1. 0
        10 June 2024 10: 54
        The AWACS aircraft does not need to be “highlighted”

        Well, they pointed to a goal or identified priority goals.
        1. +1
          10 June 2024 11: 10
          What should I indicate there? The AWACS has a powerful, specific radar; its operation can be seen from hundreds of kilometers away.
  7. +6
    10 June 2024 11: 01
    What... Woke up... Or overslept wink VO has already forgotten about this. And at that time, independent resources and carts provided information... The Moscow Region remained silent, as always, and those who left comments on this topic on VO flew into wild minuses smile
  8. +3
    10 June 2024 11: 02
    Haven't we signed an agreement on military-technical cooperation with Yemen yet? Then such actions will continue. They beat the one who allows himself to be beaten.
  9. +2
    10 June 2024 11: 06
    Why "supposedly"? Are you afraid of offending your “partners”? Feverishly drawing new red lines?
  10. 0
    10 June 2024 11: 17
    What are the reasons for deleting a comment?
    again:
    An active pilot of the Russian Aerospace Forces writes: on account of which there are several hundred combat sorties in the Northern Military District zone.
    In 2024 alone, our Aerospace Forces lost 2 A-50U, 1 Il-22, 2 Su-35S, and Su-27 to the air defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But this is the tip of the iceberg of real losses., which for the MOST part our aerospace forces suffered from UAVs and enemy missile attacks on airfields.
    In the USSR, capital reinforced concrete structures were built at airfields of two standards. The first under the small MiG-21, and the second under the Su-17 and MiG-23. These concrete fortifications can withstand direct impacts from the FAB-250. The Su-34, for example, fits into such concrete structures with great difficulty and these concrete shelters are not available at all airfields.

    The problem is not being solved. No way. At this rate of losses of the Aerospace Forces aviation and the increase in the production of UAVs of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, in 1,5 years we will be left without aircraft.
    https://voenhronika.ru/publ/vojna_na_ukraine/10_06_2024_khronika_boev_iz_volchanska_poslednie_novosti_s_ukrainy_i_karta_boevykh_dejstvij_problema_vks_s_betonnymi_ukrytijami_21_video/60-1-0-15344

    what happened in Akhtubinsk? - from the same “opera”...?
    1. -5
      10 June 2024 11: 33
      Not in defense of the Moscow Region, but one can logically think about the two A50Us. The first one, “shot down over the Sea of ​​Azov.” The sea is like a puddle, it is impossible to drown. This means measures should have been taken to raise it from the bottom. Photos of such an operation would have long been on the Internet from the satellites of the Kremlin’s Western partners, and the Ukrainian Reich would have already issued a commemorative stamp in honor of this date. About the second there are only words, no photos, no videos, nothing intelligible, again, taking into account the intelligence capabilities of the Kremlin’s Western partners. So, the words of this mattress fool can be divided by 250.
      1. 0
        10 June 2024 11: 35
        First we minus, and then we start thinking “logically”?
        Maybe we should do the opposite?
        and the material was not distributed from TsIPSO kak.lov
        1. -1
          10 June 2024 11: 36
          If this is my minus for you, I’m sorry, the devil has confused me.
    2. -1
      10 June 2024 13: 00
      The problem is not being solved. No way.

      How can it not be solved? Starting in 2021, we are actively deciding
      https://topwar.ru/200400-v-rossii-vedutsja-raboty-po-massovomu-stroitelstvu-specukrytij-dlja-voennyh-samoletov.html
  11. +1
    10 June 2024 11: 45
    It seems that the rules of the game here are set by mattresses and we strictly follow them. But this is of course not true lol
  12. -1
    10 June 2024 15: 29
    They lie like they breathe. The maximum range of the Patriot is 150 km. They will never reach Azov.
    1. +1
      10 June 2024 21: 36
      They will never reach Azov.

      Exactly.
      Rather, it is a modified S-200 missile.
  13. -1
    11 June 2024 11: 58
    It was one of these complexes that ambushed a Russian AWACS A-50 aircraft operating over the Sea of ​​Azov.

    Well, at least the Americans themselves admitted that our A-50u and Il-22 were attacked by their patriots, otherwise our generals would probably still be in the dark about what it was and how the Nazis got hold of these planes. Most likely, our command had complete confidence that our AWACS aircraft were completely safe over the Sea of ​​Azov and could circle for weeks without changing their route. But in war it’s fraught with repetition, even lieutenants after college know this.