“North Wind”: Assault groups of the “Fearless” advanced in the area of ​​the Volchansk Aggregate Plant

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“North Wind”: Assault groups of the “Fearless” advanced in the area of ​​the Volchansk Aggregate Plant

Fierce fighting continues in the Kharkov direction, Russian troops are slowly but surely moving forward. The situation is difficult both in Volchansk and near Liptsy, the enemy is making attempts to counterattack. This was reported by the TG channel “North Wind”.

In Volchansk, the Fearless assault groups are fighting for the Aggregate Plant, where the enemy has created a powerful fortified area. Despite fierce resistance, yesterday our troops managed to take two more buildings on the territory of the plant, knocking out the enemy, who launched several counterattacks in an attempt to regain their positions. The Ukrainian Armed Forces also made attempts to attack our positions in the area of ​​Gorky Park and in the eastern districts of the city. Ours reflected everything. The total advance in urban development was about 250 meters.



In the Liptsevsky direction, fighting is taking place in the Glubokoye area, where the enemy threw significant forces into the attack with the support of armored vehicles. However, this did not help him; our contract soldiers fought him off. At the same time, the situation is difficult, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is bringing new reserves into battle, trying in this direction to throw our people off the dominant heights. At the moment, it can be stated that ours have gone on the defensive, grinding down the Ukrainian forces.



Our advance in the area west of the village was also noted. Zelenoe village, where assault groups took control of two dominant heights.

Today, there are oncoming battles in the Kharkov direction, the advance of Russian troops has been suspended, but ours have pinned down significant forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with their actions. The Ukrainian command is forced to withdraw reserves from other directions, weakening them, which ours are already taking advantage of.
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  1. +18
    9 June 2024 08: 56
    So it turns out that the Armed Forces of Ukraine also have a human reserve, and not a small one, and with a b. There are no problems, there’s no shortage of FPV drones to speak of, as there hasn’t been any, it’s not just that our guys will have to, good luck to them.
    1. +6
      9 June 2024 14: 55
      Low bow to the guys, but comrade. the guarantor does not seem to understand that such a “economical” war in one place, for years, will ultimately result in much greater losses.
  2. +4
    9 June 2024 08: 57
    Judging by the drawn red line indicating our control, the enemy has noticeably pushed us back. Up to the river the city was under our control. And yet, the authors do not hesitate to write about the “general advance” of some hundreds of meters every day
    1. +1
      9 June 2024 09: 13
      Yesterday the map was posted here. Judging by it, in Volchansk we control only the outskirts.
      1. +3
        9 June 2024 10: 12
        The maps are not entirely up to date. The aggregate plant in Volchansk is not located on the outskirts of Volchansk. We need a detailed map of Volchansk. This means we have more control now.

        . In particular, we are now fighting for Volchansk. First, we took 2/3 of the city, then the Ukrainian Armed Forces pushed us out of there (let’s be blunt), and now the fiercest battle in this direction continues there.

        Both Zelensky, who arrived near Kharkov in a panic, and Syrsky did not hesitate to say that the situation was difficult for them. And now Ukraine is blowing all the trumpets that they have (oh my God), a new counter-offensive has begun. There is more military-political buffoonery here than real action. Yes, the enemy is trying to attack us in many areas. Sometimes they carry out 15-16 attacks per day. The Ukrainian Armed Forces aim to undermine our positions and show the world the most important thing - they stopped the advance of the Russian army. If the Kiev regime does not do this before the Swiss conference, the West may ask Zelensky: “We gave you mountains of money and weapons. Where is the result?” He can answer: “We drove the Russians out from near Kharkov.” Although here we need to put a big question mark: did they drive us away?


        https://ukraina.ru/20240609/1055557496.html

        As you can see on the map, the Aggregate Plant, for which there are now battles in Volchansk, is located in the northern part of the city and its southern part abuts the Volchya River. This means that the battles are not on the outskirts of Volchansk, but in the city center.
        1. +6
          9 June 2024 11: 13
          A week ago I read in messages that we control almost 70% of the territory of Volchansk, three days ago in another article, after routine messages about the successful advance, it was stated that 50% of the city is under the control of the Russian Armed Forces. This is such a successful negative offensive.
        2. Uno
          +2
          9 June 2024 11: 15
          Yes, yes, in the city center. Here is the map from May 15, find 10 differences - “North Wind: “Fearless” took Volchansk in a semi-circle, fighting is going on in the northern part of the city” https://topwar.ru/242412-severnyj-veter-besstrashnye-vzjali-volchansk -v-polukolco-boi-idut-v-severnoj-chasti-goroda.html
        3. +1
          9 June 2024 12: 15
          For about a month they wrote that we controlled almost all of Volchansk, because it was almost surrounded, and then it turned out that they hadn’t even reached the river yet
    2. 0
      9 June 2024 09: 13
      Quote from Hellcos
      Judging by the drawn red line indicating our control, the enemy has noticeably pushed us back

      Yes, ours had to retreat. The enemy even now retains an advantage in forces and means. They have now thrown almost all their free reserves there from other sectors of the front
      Quote from Hellcos
      And yet, the authors do not hesitate to write about the “general advance” of some hundreds of meters every day

      To do this, you need to understand that now the enemy is really losing to us in quality, winning in quantity, and what our fighters are doing are accomplishments of miracle heroes, the enemy has begun to “bend in”
      1. +10
        9 June 2024 09: 21
        If military propaganda begins to pump up the “heroic” theme, things are bad. This is the sign.
        1. 0
          9 June 2024 10: 08
          Heroism has never been a bad topic. It just happens that they don't notice him
          1. +9
            9 June 2024 10: 23
            It just happens that they cover up the mistakes of the command and senior political leadership.
        2. +6
          9 June 2024 10: 24
          If military propaganda begins to pump up the “heroic” theme, things are bad.


          I didn't notice that it was stopped. These continuous heroic successes in all directions have already set my teeth on edge.
          1. +5
            9 June 2024 11: 28
            Yeah. Another pearl is about a military surgeon who blocked the entrance to the tent with his body and prevented a Ukrainian drone from flying into it (!), which was going to kill all the wounded there. Compared to these anti-drone defense tactics, the notorious jars of cucumbers that Ukrainian grandmothers use to shoot down Russian UAVs look like quite standard weapons. And our propagandists, instead of writing nonsense, counting on an audience incapable of critical thinking (however, this approach works quite well), should focus on the very attack of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on a medical facility under the Red Cross, the murder of a doctor.
            We must recognize the superiority of Ukrainian propagandists (or their Western teachers and curators, but for us there is no difference) over ours. They squeezed everything out of the same Bucha by 110, if not 200%, reaching a level worthy of an Oscar, and if ours had been given a similar news feed, they would have mediocrely leaked it, muttering some clerical cliches like Konashenko with fish eyes.
            1. +5
              9 June 2024 14: 59
              cool Oscar, and if ours had been given a similar news feed, they would have mediocrely leaked it too

              So they were given Crocus, a reason 10 times stronger. They managed to drain him too. There was a real opportunity to call for the creation of an anti-colonial, anti-terrorist coalition. Now no one remembers the crocus. What's that... The guarantor couldn't even resolve the payment problem with the cunning neighbor.
      2. +16
        9 June 2024 09: 37
        Hmm.. In general, pulling back enemy forces from other directions should lead to our breakthrough in these places. There are no breakthroughs either in Pokrovsky, or in Chasovoy Yar, and especially not in Zaporozhye and Kherson. Liberation of several small villages, and that’s all. Grinding of the enemy ?So at the same time he is grinding us down too. Volunteers came from near Svetlodar - our Cossacks are fighting there. People are shocked by what they saw
        1. +5
          9 June 2024 09: 46
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          Hmm.. In general, pulling back enemy forces from other directions should lead to our breakthrough in these places.

          The problem with breakthroughs now is purely technical. The NATO guys are great, they found an alternative solution against our “tank wedges” - blockade of the combat area and cutting off supplies to the troops that broke through, while we, and no one else, can do anything to counter this
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          So at the same time he breaks us too.

          It’s true, the war has entered the most severe “extermination” phase. I think that everything will be decided this fall; whoever has more strength and resources will dictate the terms of the world
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          Volunteers came from near Svetlodar, where our Cossacks are fighting. People are shocked by what they saw

          They have not yet seen what is happening now in Volchansk
          1. 0
            9 June 2024 09: 49
            These people were transporting the necessary things (a lot of things) to front-line hospitals.. I don’t even want to think about what will happen at the front. About next autumn. Yes, and the commander of “Akhmat” talks about it. May God grant us to live to see this
          2. +5
            9 June 2024 10: 11
            Quote: svp67
            decision against our "tank wedges"

            Where did you see the tank wedges? belay
            Quote: svp67
            Well done NATO guys

            Quote: svp67
            blockade of the combat area and cessation of supplies to the troops that broke through, for now we, and no one can do anything to counteract this

            Wow! These NATO guys are great! How unexpected, how extraordinary! Real strategy geniuses!!! Well, who would have thought that this was possible? But they came up with it, for the first time in history! wassat You have to figure this out! Well done NATO members good Gods of war, really...
            Quote: svp67
            Whoever has more strength and resources will dictate the terms of the world

            The Russian Federation or NATO? And what are your predictions?
          3. +6
            9 June 2024 11: 37
            It’s true, the war has entered the most severe “extermination” phase. I think that everything will be decided this fall; whoever has more strength and resources will dictate the terms of the world

            In fact, you said that victory will go to those who feel less sorry for throwing their soldiers into the furnace of mutual grinding. Even if the result is ours, it can rightfully be called Pyrrhic.
            PS If we analyze the history of military conflicts, the side that was drawn into the war not by its own choice has less “sensitivity” to losses. It is no coincidence that both Patriotic Wars, victories in which our people are rightfully proud of, began with an enemy invasion of our state. By the way, both times the side whose allies were the Anglo-Saxons won. Now both of these factors work not for the Russian Federation, but for its enemy.
            1. +1
              9 June 2024 11: 45
              Now the leaven will give you heat))
              1. 0
                9 June 2024 11: 58
                I am happy with any reaction to my comments. Both likes and dislikes indicate that the comment was read and appreciated. But I have no need to please everyone - tea, not a red maiden, and not a 5000 bill.
              2. 0
                9 June 2024 14: 20
                Well, of course, if the person doesn’t moan and cry, “everything is lost, boss,” he’s definitely leavened, no less.
      3. +6
        9 June 2024 10: 03
        Quote: svp67
        the enemy began to "bend"

        It's been starting to sag for two years now... wassat Yes, everything will not start somehow...
        If we take the official Finnish sources from the Second World War, they also bent us throughout the war, bent us, bent us, bent us... And then BAM - and capitulation! request
        1. +2
          9 June 2024 11: 45
          And during the Winter War of 1939-1940, the Soviet people were told that our losses were many times less than those of the “White Finns” (the term white was then an analogue of the current Nazis). And then, when they finally opened some of the archives, it turned out that the Red Army had lost many times more than its enemy, and who had virtually no aviation or armored vehicles, which was significantly inferior to our army in artillery. And now the initial reports about the loss ratio of 1:10 - 1:8 have been replaced by a figure from the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the RF Armed Forces - 1:5. Will there be further adjustments? And to what ratio?
          1. -4
            9 June 2024 12: 00
            Quote: UAZ 452
            And then, when they finally opened some of the archives, it turned out that the Red Army lost many times more than its enemy

            What archives? Give me the link. Since today official historiography, including Western, proceeds from 48 people killed and 745 people wounded from the USSR and 19 people killed, 576 people wounded from Finland. As for
            Quote: UAZ 452
            The Red Army lost many times more than its enemy

            doesn't measure up...
            Quote: UAZ 452
            Will there be further adjustments? And to what ratio?

            We'll know the exact data in 50 years...
            1. 0
              9 June 2024 12: 04
              Since today official historiography, including Western, comes from 48 people killed and 745 people wounded in the USSR and 158 people killed, 863 people wounded in Finland.

              Uh-uh... Isn't this a lot? Check it yourself with a calculator. So I’m not giving a link confirming what I said - you’ve already found it yourself.
              1. 0
                9 June 2024 12: 12
                Quote: UAZ 452
                Uh-uh... Isn't this a lot? Check it yourself with a calculator.

                laughing Well, after all, “at times” suggests several times Well, there are four, five, six, seven... And when it’s TWO times, that’s what they usually write - twice! But “twice” doesn’t sound right! wassat Rђ RІRѕS, "factor of"! This is yes ... laughing
                1. 0
                  9 June 2024 14: 58
                  Well, for me at times - twice or more. If it’s 8 times or more, that’s already an order of magnitude. So, if the number of killed Red Army soldiers is more than two times greater than the enemy’s irretrievable losses, and the ratio of wounded is three and a half times greater, then so be it.
    3. -7
      9 June 2024 09: 49
      The enemy is trying to counter-grunt us to knock us out of our positions in the Kharkov direction in order to create a beautiful picture for LGBT get-togethers in Switzerland. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are transferring reserves to Kharkov that suffer losses, which allows us to improve our positions in other directions.
      1. +10
        9 June 2024 10: 13
        Quote: Bearded
        The Armed Forces of Ukraine are transferring reserves to Kharkov that suffer losses, which allows us to improve our positions in other directions.

        Can you give examples of this “improvement of positions”?
        1. -1
          9 June 2024 11: 45
          Damn, but this already happened. A long time ago. Leveling the front, improving positions...
          1. -1
            9 June 2024 12: 07
            Quote from: dmi.pris1
            Damn, but this already happened. A long time ago. Leveling the front, improving positions...

            In general, unhealthy associations are formed...
            Quote: Bearded
            The enemy is trying to counter-grunt us to knock us out of our positions in the Kharkov direction in order to create a beautiful picture for LGBT get-togethers in Switzerland. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are transferring reserves to Kharkov that suffer losses, which allows us to improve our positions in other directions.

            1) our heroic troops leveled the front line
            2) our heroic troops carried out an advantageous regrouping
            3) our heroic troops took more advantageous strategic positions.

            I won’t indicate whose manual this is and from what year...
        2. +2
          9 June 2024 12: 39
          Our troops entered Sokol.
          If you want to know more, go to Telegram. hi
        3. -1
          9 June 2024 13: 58
          These are positions on the external background. They pushed the French armies back from Ukraine, deciding not to advance near Kharkov anymore and reducing their supplies.
        4. -1
          9 June 2024 16: 12
          Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
          And examples of this “improving positions”

          Offensive in Chasovoy Yar.
  3. +4
    9 June 2024 08: 58
    There is only one conclusion: even in one direction, our troops are not able to break through the defenses of the Ukrainian Reich and break into operational space. Like all this time, they will get stuck and mark time for months.
    1. K_4
      -3
      9 June 2024 09: 11
      Vacationers say that there are a lot of foreigners. In some directions there are not even ukrov. I don't know why this is not voiced. Perhaps because even the most patriotic patriots will not understand such red lines. However, I don’t insist on truthfulness, because they chatted at 40 degrees.
      1. +5
        9 June 2024 09: 40
        Quote: K_4
        I don't know why this is not voiced.

        They talk about foreign mercenaries and military personnel posing as mercenaries from the very beginning.
        1. +3
          9 June 2024 11: 49
          But didn’t we claim that we were preparing to fight with all of NATO? So what difference does it make if some part of this very NATO is fighting on the side of Ukraine (which they are not really trying to hide)? How does this justify the insolvency of our Armed Forces revealed during the SVO?
          1. -3
            9 June 2024 14: 43
            Quote: UAZ 452
            How does this justify the insolvency of our Armed Forces revealed during the SVO?

            Your armed forces may be insolvent, but ours are completely crushing the enemy.
            1. +2
              9 June 2024 16: 41
              Glad for your aircraft. But ours, the RF Armed Forces, are, unfortunately, still far from unconditional dominance. They grind the enemy, of course, but they also grind them in the process. And your aircraft, then, take out the enemy in “one snout”? It's so enviable! What country are you from? Who are you fighting with?
              1. 0
                9 June 2024 16: 57
                Quote: UAZ 452
                The RF Armed Forces are, unfortunately, still far from unconditional dominance.

                Why did they aim so little? Take more, total and unconditional superiority. All it takes is the supply of NATO countries to be crushed by the forces of one country. I myself am not a supporter of our command, but you swung so hard, it’s scary to imagine your dreams of what unconditional dominance it should be like. Shells 1:20, numbers 1:10, equipment 1:5? Jokes aside, it’s one thing to argue that our country’s leadership was selling its face and not preparing for war. But such a scale of superiority is difficult to imagine, unless we are China.
                1. -1
                  9 June 2024 17: 02
                  Did I swing?! I am simply stating a fact - there is a push and pull throughout the LBS, mutual grinding. About:
                  the supply of NATO countries to be crushed by the forces of one country

                  I agree - fruitless utopian dreams. But if this was clear in advance, why did they start? For masochistic reasons?
                  1. -1
                    9 June 2024 17: 35
                    Quote: UAZ 452
                    mutual grinding


                    I have a feeling that you are diligently throwing in favor of one side. You speak in this message and in another as if we have equality in strength and losses are exactly the same. As you said there, who will be less sorry? I may have missed something, but somehow you are diligently missing such a small factor - our superiority in the sky and the enemy’s losses are much greater, based on this. I won’t talk about artillery, I don’t know how much of an advantage we have in ammunition consumption. Maybe it's about this, and not about who will scam more people? And the grinding is on one side here?
                    Quote: UAZ 452
                    But if this was clear in advance, why did they start?

                    The question “why did you start” is not at all appropriate. The question is why our command is so rotten, but you don’t ask about that. You immediately say that you shouldn’t have started, not what mistakes there were, but that the SVO is wrong.
                    So you don't:
                    Quote: UAZ 452
                    I'm just stating a fact

                    You are specifically arguing in the spirit of defeatism and other “non-twinists.” I don’t want to offend, but your messages are extremely unpleasant to read.
                    1. 0
                      9 June 2024 18: 22
                      I respect people who give reasons for their own opinions, so I cannot help but respond to your well-reasoned comment.
                      I have a feeling that you are diligently throwing in favor of one side.

                      Sorry, but how can the word “mutual” be interpreted in favor of one of the parties? Then - which one exactly? Because in the comments of official speakers of both sides, in ours and in Ukrainian media, it is stated that the enemy’s losses are much greater than their own. Here you either blindly believe one or the other, or admit that during OWN war everyone always lies.
                      you diligently miss such a small factor - our superiority in the sky and the enemy’s losses are much greater, based on this

                      Why do you think so? Before the advent of kits for converting FAB into UPAB, our aviation could not engage in precision bombing at all - only by pitching somewhere towards the enemy. Army aviation helicopters are still hitting with NURS from a pitching position somewhere “there”. Now both sides are suffering losses from UAVs, and not from “big” aviation, and in terms of them we have only parity with the Ukrainian Armed Forces. So don’t wishful thinking.
                      I won’t talk about artillery, I don’t know how much of an advantage we have in ammunition consumption.

                      You are not following this thread. Here, at VO, there was enough material (you can find it yourself if you want, don’t ask for links, I didn’t save it) that in terms of ammunition consumption we, of course, surpass the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and the lunar landscapes performed by our artillerymen look brutal, but there is a lag in reconnaissance and target designation , the efficiency of opening return fire, and with the advent of Western artillery systems - at range, leads to the fact that the efficiency of these ammunition, if calculated in terms of shell consumption per unit of real losses caused, is lower than that of the enemy. General Popov was removed from his post after he reported to Gerasimov, among other things, about problems with counter-battery warfare.
                      The question “why did you start” is not at all appropriate. The question is why our command is so rotten, but you don’t ask about that. You immediately say that you shouldn’t have started, not what mistakes there were, but that the SVO is wrong.

                      Well, let’s still use the logic: the command is ineffective, but they were put in positions by specific (and from the highest) ranks in the political leadership. But they were the ones who made the decision to start the SVO! How is it that the leadership, which has made a wise, well-founded, timely decision to start a military defense system, has been unable to resolve the issue of adequate (here I am quoting you) command in the field army for three years now? You yourself don’t see any contradictions in this? If not, then I was probably too hasty in recognizing your comment as reasoned.
                      You are specifically arguing in the spirit of defeatism and other “non-twinists.”

                      If you can describe a realistic image of the post-war (post-war) world, which will be better than the pre-war one, then I will publicly admit that you are right. If you find it difficult to formulate this, then any optimism you have will be nothing more than “rubbishness.”
                      I don’t want to offend, but your messages are extremely unpleasant to read.

                      You didn't insult me. I would also prefer to write about victories and great achievements, but so far reality is not conducive to this. It’s also unpleasant for me to read messages from the same military correspondents (who are really trying to write what is there, and not just what comes out of Konoshenkov’s department).
                      1. +1
                        9 June 2024 21: 24
                        I understand that we are not there for a walk either. There is no such thing as a war without losses, but too many people are needed and they are openly fleeing from the streets in sheer lawlessness. You don't have to believe blindly. Without faith, you can already guess who has more to lose, who has more needs.
                        As for aviation, this is not only FAB, these are other means of destruction, the very fact that the sky is behind us speaks volumes, for some countries this actually decided the outcome of the war. From pitching up or in another way they beat the question of the fifth importance. Where there is still parity, it is in UAVs; in this chaos, it is generally difficult to count anything on each side; there is simply a huge amount of these means.
                        Regarding artillery, I agree that it is superior in accuracy, only if before we were inferior in accuracy and quantity, now at least there is no hunger for shells, and this is an important factor on the battlefield. If earlier you had to go on an assault without artillery preparation, now, I hope, this is not the case. Let there be lunar craters, but the enemy will still receive his share of cast iron, and the assault infantry also goes under cover. Again, assaults take place after artillery preparation, after aviation work, and not in a swoop.
                        And let’s not go to extremes, if I say that you are, to put it mildly, pessimistic about the course of the Northern Military District, that you are even talking about defeat, this does not mean that I directly support the leadership of our country in everything. It’s as if you have only 2 views - “cursing,” as you say, and “everything is lost,” can I have another option in the middle? I support the decision to start the SVO and, if not for the rotten command, the course of the DB could have turned out completely differently. So I don’t see any contradictions here, unless, like you, you go to extremes, that either everything is perfect, and if it’s not, then everything is bad. And there is no need to talk about cursing, nor to fall into thoughts that defeat awaits us, since not everything is going perfectly. Shoigu was removed, I hope this will yield results, although this start with Popov is, of course, discouraging.
                        Well, for better or worse after the war, this is already demagoguery. Can be divided into maximum and minimum tasks. I’m not ready to write it all down yet, I’ve written so much
                        This is my opinion, which is why your words, which I called defeatist, hurt. I am far from the illusion that everything is good and ideal with us, I have experienced from my own experience what a mess we have, but still this does not mean that everything is lost for us. You never know, maybe there will be reports of victory, I would like to believe in it, but it’s clearly too early to think about defeat. We have many problems, just like the enemy. In addition, Russia always entered the war unprepared, do you have to get used to it?
                        PS Writing such a sheet on this site is a real pain with its speed.
              2. -4
                9 June 2024 17: 46
                Quote: UAZ 452
                They grind the enemy, of course, but they also grind them in the process.

                Well, what is the ratio of losses between the RF Armed Forces and yours?
                1. -1
                  9 June 2024 18: 29
                  The Russian Armed Forces and “ours” fought for one day only last summer. You can see the ratio for yourself if you haven’t been banned.
                  1. -2
                    9 June 2024 18: 37
                    Quote: UAZ 452
                    The Russian Armed Forces and “ours” fought for one day only last summer.

                    Truth? But I read that they have been fighting for two years now.
                    Quote: UAZ 452
                    About the ratio

                    Well, like this?
    2. +4
      9 June 2024 09: 18
      Quote: wladimir
      There is only one conclusion: even in one direction, our troops are not able to break through the defenses of the Ukrainian Reich and break into operational space.

      In modern conditions, no army is capable of doing this now; the units and units that break through are immediately blocked and cut off from supplies by drone and artillery strikes. As a result, they cannot move further, God forbid they hold their positions
      1. +8
        9 June 2024 09: 25
        What then is the point of fighting if both sides of the conflict are unable to achieve results acceptable to themselves? It turns out - a mutual senseless slaughter...
        1. +1
          9 June 2024 09: 39
          Quote from invisible_man
          What then is the point of fighting if both sides of the conflict are unable to achieve results acceptable to themselves?

          You just have to fight correctly. Tactics and strategy are based not on wishes, but on the weapons that exist at the moment. Dashing breakthroughs in the spirit of WWII are now impossible, unless the enemy becomes stupid, or resorts to the tactics of inundating with corpses, so the offensive is much slower. The main thing is that it goes.
          1. +8
            9 June 2024 10: 14
            Quote: Dart2027
            breakthroughs in the spirit of WWII are now impossible

            It's not about breakthroughs. After 2 years of fighting, there are no fools left on the front line.
            The problem is that the resources of NATO countries began to fight against Russia. But isolating combat areas and destroying enemy communications is not possible for some unknown reason. More precisely, there is a reason, but our leaders do not want to officially voice it. “After all, mothers with children are constantly walking along Bankovaya in Kyiv” - GDP.
            1. +2
              9 June 2024 11: 29
              Quote: Vitaly_pvo
              But isolating combat areas and destroying enemy communications is not possible for some unknown reason.

              The reason is that it is basically impossible to destroy communications. Let us at least remember the Second World War, so beloved by some - how many partisans and saboteurs operated behind enemy lines, who fought on foreign territory, and how many of our planes carried out air strikes on railway junctions? And what? Yes, they caused serious damage to it, but there was no destruction of communications. The reason is that they will be restored, and this is not so difficult. The emphasis is on destroying communications during the offensive and within the framework of this offensive. For example, when they began to storm Volchansk, they destroyed all the bridges leading to the areas occupied by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And then the enemy constantly establishes crossings, which also have to be destroyed.
              I don’t remember how many times this was explained.
              1. +1
                9 June 2024 11: 41
                Quote: Dart2027
                I don't remember how many times this has been explained

                We are talking about communications that go through the Carpathians on the borders of Poland and Romania. As well as satellite communications, banks, radio and TV.
                1. 0
                  9 June 2024 14: 42
                  Quote: Vitaly_pvo
                  We are talking about communications that go through the Carpathians on the borders of Poland and Romania.
                  And I'm talking about them. Yes, you can hit them with missiles, but the damage will be quickly restored.
                  Quote: Vitaly_pvo
                  As well as satellite communications

                  She's American.
                  1. +1
                    9 June 2024 15: 53
                    Dashing breakthroughs in the spirit of WWII are now impossible

                    Why are they impossible? The factors “surprise, speed, onslaught” have not gone away, they have simply reached a new level of technology.
                    1. 0
                      9 June 2024 16: 06
                      Quote: IvanIvanov
                      Factors "surprise, speed, onslaught"

                      How tired of the same thing. There is no surprise. It’s just not there, that’s all. Forget it. It is impossible to hide the concentration of a large group in our time. As soon as someone begins to concentrate some forces, they start talking about it all over the Internet, not to mention the enemy’s headquarters.
                      1. +2
                        9 June 2024 17: 04
                        What can you say about the great regrouping from Kharkov in 2022?
                      2. -1
                        9 June 2024 17: 50
                        Quote: UAZ 452
                        in 2022 year

                        Only the lazy have not written about the fact that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are concentrating their forces before this. Another thing is that our own strength was not enough.
                        What can you say about the great counter-offensive in 2023?
                      3. 0
                        9 June 2024 18: 34
                        What can you say about the great counter-offensive in 2023?

                        The fact that it failed (and you don’t agree?) - our Ukrainian Armed Forces could not break through the front, so what happened was the same mutual grinding as in Bakhmut (the losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are unknown to me, and Wagner, according to Prigozhin, lost 20 thousand killed), what is now in Volchansk. After the fall of 2022, neither we nor the Ukrainian Armed Forces had any breakthroughs in the enemy’s defenses. The Verdun meat grinder in all its glory.
                      4. -2
                        9 June 2024 18: 39
                        Quote: UAZ 452
                        I don’t know the losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces

                        Well, look for them, they are often talked about.
                        So what about surprise?
        2. +5
          9 June 2024 09: 43
          So this all became clear by the fall of last year. There will be exhaustion and destruction of each other without any success. For years
          1. K_4
            +1
            9 June 2024 10: 09
            It’s strange with Volchansky, and in general in Kharkovsky: they walked briskly, our friends were already on the outskirts of Kharkov, then someone gave the command to “stand” and that’s it, they lost the initiative, the Ukrainians pulled up their forces.
            1. +9
              9 June 2024 10: 21
              There is a lot of “uplifting” propaganda that does not correspond to the real state of affairs.
            2. +1
              9 June 2024 10: 32
              Transfer of enemy reserves, and not only from LBS
              but also opening the bins. So “lying down, standing, being afraid” is not the topic.
              Rubilovo is going badly now, and here, IMHO, the main thing is not advancement, but pulling out reserve units for butchering
            3. +2
              9 June 2024 10: 54
              Quote: K_4
              It’s strange with Volchansky, and in general in Kharkovsky: they walked briskly, our friends were already on the outskirts of Kharkov, then someone gave the command to “stand” and that’s it, they lost the initiative, the Ukrainians pulled up their forces.

              There is nothing strange there. Read Pereslegin's analytical strategy.
            4. +3
              9 June 2024 16: 03
              Kharkov, then someone gave the command to “stand” and that’s it, they lost the initiative, the Ukrainians pulled up their forces.

              From the perspective of the sofa, there was a surprise to some extent, but they did not ensure isolation of the battlefield and allowed the enemy to gather. The result is a new state.
              1. K_4
                +3
                9 June 2024 16: 16
                That's what I'm talking about. The loss of momentum allowed the enemy to gather, the situation could have been corrected, but the troops suddenly stood up. Although even the right flankers and the Ukrainians would have gone to Kharkov, they clearly intended to do so. So everything is murky there.
                1. +4
                  9 June 2024 16: 19
                  Yes, it’s murky in the sense that the great chess player suddenly announced at the height of the operation that he did not want to take Kharkov.. Well, he didn’t want to take Kharkov and would collect damage in Belgorod, Kursk, Voronezh.. unfortunately, with the lives of ordinary citizens.
        3. 0
          9 June 2024 10: 07
          It makes no sense not to fight against the Nazis who want to build a Ukrainian Reich
          1. +4
            9 June 2024 10: 21
            That’s how it was necessary to fight. When it was just emerging. And this is not even 2014... However, there was still too much time. Deriban, we had to grab it in time. And now what? Do you think that in the current conditions we are capable of destroying the Ukrainian Reich. About denazification don't remember anymore...
        4. -8
          9 June 2024 10: 16
          Quote from invisible_man
          What then is the point of fighting if both sides of the conflict are unable to achieve results acceptable to themselves? It turns out - a mutual senseless slaughter...

          There is only one way out - escalation. To start with tactical weapons...
          1. +5
            9 June 2024 10: 20
            Are you tired of living? No to me.
            1. +1
              9 June 2024 10: 22
              Quote from invisible_man
              Are you tired of living? No to me.

              I'm not calling! I predict... Kasandra complex wassat
            2. +2
              9 June 2024 15: 41
              Are you tired of living? No to me.

              Then we will be simmered. And so there is a chance that the enemy is not tired of living either.
        5. +3
          9 June 2024 10: 23
          What then is the point of fighting if both sides of the conflict are unable to achieve results acceptable to themselves?

          I don’t presume to judge the meaning of fighting for Ukraine, but for our government, concluding peace on the terms of our opponents (and there will be no others) means political death (and possibly physical death) - the people will not forgive the huge number of young men who died
          1. +2
            9 June 2024 11: 50
            Ukraine will have to cede some territories, there is no question.
          2. +2
            9 June 2024 11: 54
            The history of recent years shows that there is nothing that our people (or rather, the population) are not able to “grab”. No matter what conditions peace is concluded on, our media will trumpet that we have won, and the majority will be completely satisfied with such a “victory.” Simply because it’s easier to live this way.
            1. 0
              9 June 2024 12: 38
              So the other side will trumpet the same thing. “They retained their statehood, remained on this (or that) side of the Iron Curtain,” etc. Actually, it has already begun. Listen to Arestovich giving out “interviews” to his own “journalists”.
              1. +1
                9 June 2024 14: 03
                Quote: UAZ 452
                No matter what conditions peace is concluded on, our media will trumpet that we have won, and the majority will be quite satisfied with such a “victory.”

                Quote from invisible_man
                So the other side will trumpet the same thing.

                But here everything is simple, for both sides. The population will hear first of all “what it wants to hear.” And those who disagree with their opinion and vision will be politely (or not so politely) asked to shut up.
            2. +2
              9 June 2024 14: 42
              Quote: UAZ 452
              The history of recent years shows that there is nothing that our people (or rather, the population) are not able to “grab”.

              You, apparently, have taught history poorly in general, or are deliberately sketching in the spirit of ukrismi. Especially the history of the 20th century, they grabbed it like that at the beginning of the century. I don’t undertake to say for the entire people what the reaction will be under the agreement, but it’s clearly not worth saying, based on the experience of history, what will be grabbed. For lesser reasons, people were indignant, you can remember the manege, but it’s completely impossible to imagine how the army of DB veterans will react.
              And in general, your messages clearly show defeatism: “Pyrrhic victory”, “whose side the Anglo-Saxons are on is the winner.”
          3. +1
            9 June 2024 12: 23
            They'll come up with something, for the first time or something
      2. +2
        9 June 2024 14: 02
        In modern conditions, one side can eliminate enemy artillery with a bunch of lancets, and drones can be crushed by electronic warfare, find where they are launched from and cover them with artillery. But we have nothing, especially when the West is threatening to impose sanctions, send troops, and so on. At the same time, lancets instantly disappear from the front, corruption is no longer found in the Defense Ministry, and air defense begins to let drones through over and over again.
  4. +8
    9 June 2024 09: 40
    The Banderlogs have everything - military personnel, equipment, and ammunition. And fighting spirit, by the way. And they don’t foresee any problems with all this, judging by what is happening and what’s to come
  5. +3
    9 June 2024 10: 05
    How our people take the plant when they lost a block before it. There's something wrong with the map in the news
  6. +1
    9 June 2024 10: 28
    In Volchansk, the Fearless assault groups are fighting for the Aggregate Plant, where the enemy has created a powerful fortified area.

    Why are they fighting? Are we out of shells and bombs again? Or is it the winter of 42, when shell hunger forced us to conduct night attacks?
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      1. +7
        9 June 2024 11: 07
        Well, someone was there. I'm fed up with this kind of command. When the thoughts of the command are not to win, but to profit more from a soldier, people regret their lives, and someone thinks not about the war, but about their fleet of vehicles and a larger yacht. What victories can they achieve with such, at what cost? If only people wouldn’t have questions for our generals.
        1. +5
          9 June 2024 16: 21
          Again, the fish rots from the head. If you have such a command, at least start cleaning up the ranks.
          1. +3
            9 June 2024 16: 33
            Yeah, we can roll our lips. They found a couple of culprits, and that was the end of it. I can’t even imagine how rotten everything here is, even if our division commander was closed for left-wing movements with combat, they haven’t even taken charge of my regiment commander. With such a command, there is no need for enemies, and you propose a breakthrough with such father-commanders. Such people have their heads occupied with others.
    2. 0
      9 June 2024 10: 42
      Well, set an example. Go into battle and finally support our leadership. Obviously, you’re not writing from the trenches
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        1. +2
          9 June 2024 11: 42
          And I’m not speculating. But what people see is here in the rear. And when they come on vacation from the front
          1. K_4
            +4
            9 June 2024 12: 14
            Exactly, we listen, read, discuss, and why? But because all this concerns us directly, through the economy and the general socio-political state of the country. Yes, and it can directly affect us, because at any moment we can take up arms. Why should we remain silent? It’s like we’re also working and there’s no way to front the front without a strong rear. What kind of fortress is there with our leaders?
        2. +4
          9 June 2024 11: 52
          Comments on the site are intended to share subjective views on current events. Otherwise, you can safely close them.
    3. +3
      9 June 2024 12: 27
      We are from people like you, we read this for almost two and a half. They say at the General Staff and the Defense Ministry, they know better than the sofa fighters. And then we look at the map or listen to the news, how we heroically take another village every year. And if two, then this In general, the entire General Staff should be given orders
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  10. -4
    9 June 2024 11: 03
    Our people are tearing apart the gangsters. They drove the rainbow into a situation where it is impossible to retreat and they can only hold on by burning their reserves.
    1. +5
      9 June 2024 11: 10
      But it’s too early to rejoice, they are now mobilizing, supplies have been resumed from NATO, they are just building up their forces.
      1. -1
        9 June 2024 11: 32
        Dahl's Explanatory Dictionary. JOY - fun, delight, enjoyment, joy.
        Read more carefully.
        1. +2
          9 June 2024 11: 34
          I can also advise you not to take everything literally, especially in online communication, and you yourself used the word “rainbow” in this vein, and you also show me the dictionary. No one is saying that you are doing somersaults for joy and doing cartwheels.
          1. +3
            9 June 2024 16: 23
            But it’s too early to rejoice, they are now mobilizing, supplies have been resumed from NATO, they are just building up their forces.

            What’s most annoying is that they didn’t even take advantage of the pause properly. The chess player sat and waited for something, for “humanitarian reasons”
      2. +1
        9 June 2024 13: 42
        Quote: suhorukofal
        They are now mobilizing, supplies have resumed from NATO, they are just building up their forces.

        They build up or plug the resulting holes. So the volunteers left in the first wave, then those who were called up. Now we had to lower the conscription age, but there are no more volunteers at that age. It is somewhat doubtful that they will become stronger than at the beginning of the war.
        1. +1
          9 June 2024 13: 51
          Quote: Naked Man
          It is somewhat doubtful that they will become stronger than at the beginning of the war.

          But they don’t need quality, they take advantage of numbers, don’t you remember their tactics in the advertised counter-offensive? But here, in general, the task is simply to slow down our offensive when units trained in NATO countries arrive. And so they will fight until the last Ukrainian.
          1. +3
            9 June 2024 14: 45
            Quote: suhorukofal
            This is how they will fight until the last Ukrainian.

            This means they will be destroyed down to the last Ukrainian.
            1. +3
              9 June 2024 14: 51
              Quote: Dart2027
              This means they will be destroyed down to the last Ukrainian.

              Well, if they want it that way and are happy about it, then... We have nowhere to go, the war is, of course, difficult, but there is enough cast iron for Ukraine.
              1. +1
                9 June 2024 16: 03
                Quote: suhorukofal
                We have nowhere to go

                Exactly. Actually, the failures at the beginning were precisely because they hoped to do without it, but
                Quote: suhorukofal
                If they want it that way and are happy about it, then...
  11. -2
    9 June 2024 12: 29
    Only forward.
  12. -2
    9 June 2024 12: 32
    The M113 armored personnel carrier of the Ukrainian Armed Forces burned down.
  13. -2
    9 June 2024 12: 38
    Special Operation Z: chronicle of the main military events of June 7
  14. -1
    9 June 2024 12: 39
    Special Operation Z: chronicle of the main military events of June 8
  15. -3
    9 June 2024 12: 51
    Lost illusions of the collective West.
  16. -2
    9 June 2024 12: 59
    Russian army: new tactics - Security Council
  17. -3
    9 June 2024 13: 04
    Stars in embroidered shirts - Military secret
  18. -4
    9 June 2024 13: 08
    Why does the Outskirts go underground?
    1. +4
      9 June 2024 13: 35
      Is this RenTV, or what? Everything is clear... Don’t watch this nonsense.
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      2. 0
        9 June 2024 15: 16
        Strange. Views are growing before our eyes. probably someone would be interested in watching, not just reading..
  19. 0
    9 June 2024 13: 46
    I understand that here, as soon as we take several villages, there are dozens of comments - “they fought for the village for three years, we need to change the commander-in-chief,” if we retreat a hundred meters - “we couldn’t break through, the Ukrainians are winning.” Which fits perfectly with the official propaganda of the neighbor, where victory lies in the fact that they have not yet lost.
    It is already difficult to distinguish some patriots from cypsos.
    1. -2
      9 June 2024 14: 37
      I’m actually in shock; you can see similar sentiments on ukrosites. It is clear that the situation is difficult, the enemy has received support. But there are already shouts that we will lose and that “everything is lost” right now. It seems that this is not a site where patriotic men, especially military men, but a committee of soldiers’ mothers, where they can only cry.
      1. -3
        9 June 2024 15: 12
        Pensioners here cry a lot, they’re essentially grandmothers on a bench, the hormonal levels are the same
      2. +3
        9 June 2024 15: 25
        For example, I cry every day about one thing - the lack of military-political thought among the authorities and the reluctance to learn from mistakes, which is reflected both at the front (in marking time) and in the rear (kebab with cognac). Take any successful campaigns, from the Macedonian to the Second World War - there were no months-long battles for the forester’s hut, and those that did exist were not presented as a successful strategy, they were called a military dead end.. The same Battle of Rzhev or the trench war of the First World War.
        1. -2
          9 June 2024 15: 45
          Quote: IvanIvanov
          lack of military-political thought among the authorities

          So I agree with this. I’m talking about something else, local citizens (VO) were already ready to lose, the conversation started that victory would be on the side of those who were drawn into the war.
          Quote: IvanIvanov
          there were no months-long battles for the forester’s hut

          But I don’t agree with this. At least for the right man’s hut, at least to stand still, but if the enemy suffers losses that cause him to have a new law on tightening mobilization and demanding new people, then I agree to hang out like that. Some people's desires for big victories and breakthroughs are fraught with big losses. The Ukrainian Armed Forces confirmed this with their counterattack.
          Quote: IvanIvanov
          called a military dead end...

          Deadlock or not, this is a difficult war, which has not happened since 45, with a completely new character of warfare. And both our leadership and the local public need to understand this. Some are embarrassed to take sudden steps, some half measures, others are jumping in the clouds, the progress for them, you see, is small.
          This is the information background if you stay at VO for a long time
          1. +3
            9 June 2024 16: 10
            Some people's desires for big victories and breakthroughs are fraught with big losses. The Ukrainian Armed Forces confirmed this with their counterattack.

            I don't agree. This is if you hit it in the forehead, without imagination. It is precisely a long-term trench war that results in large overall losses, including civilian infrastructure. The First World War is a good example. The same Suvorov, one of the most successful commanders in history, was a categorical opponent of trench sitting, understood the risks of large final losses in this duel, and spoke about this more than once. It must be said that in his time there were many supporters of leisurely warfare, and in historical disputes with them he always turned out to be right.
            1. +2
              9 June 2024 16: 29
              "It was smooth on paper.."
              Quote: IvanIvanov
              It is precisely a long-term trench war that results in large overall losses, including civilian infrastructure.

              It’s good to talk about Suvorov, but the enemy has experience - the Ukrainian counter-offensive. How did it end, perhaps with greater losses due to the tightening of mobilization? It’s better to learn from the mistakes of others. Do you think they are so stupid that after such mistakes they didn’t organize a defense and break through it so easily? I will disappoint you, they are not standing out of nowhere. For a breakthrough you need a decisive advantage - numerical, qualitative. We have it, but we don't have it. The command did not take any retaliatory steps; Shoigu and the Ivanovs were busy with other things. And air defense has again begun to be supplied to Ukraine; it is still unclear from the sky how much of it is ours. In such a situation, do you want to storm the fortified area head-on, according to Suvorov’s precepts? Me not.
    2. -1
      9 June 2024 14: 49
      Quote: Naked Man
      It is already difficult to distinguish some patriots from cypsos.

      Two categories of "patriots".
      1) These are those who love to whine about any reason.
      2) These are those who dream of overthrowing “this government” and again trying to build a utopia.
      1. +1
        9 June 2024 17: 01
        try again to build a utopia

        If by “utopia” we mean the Soviet state, then at the same time remind people who buried Hitler’s Germany. Maybe a state of oligarchs and state corporations?
        1. -1
          9 June 2024 17: 55
          Quote: Bully
          then at the same time remind people who buried Hitler’s Germany

          The Russian Empire defeated Sweden, Prussia and France, the latter with the forces of the "twelve tongues", being a feudal country. This means serfdom is a more developed form of economy than capitalism.
          Quote: Bully
          Maybe a state of oligarchs and state corporations?

          And at the same time, remind people who buried the USSR.
          1. +2
            9 June 2024 18: 26
            And at the same time, remind people who buried the USSR

            Really, who? On March 17, 1991, in a referendum, 77% of USSR citizens spoke in favor of preserving the Union
            1. +1
              9 June 2024 18: 36
              Quote: Bully
              On March 17, 1991, in a referendum, 77% of USSR citizens spoke in favor of preserving the Union

              So where is he?
              Yes, there are no objections about the Russian Empire?
    3. -5
      9 June 2024 15: 09
      there are a lot of people not from Russia at all, in addition to the local liberda, Israeli activists are working
      1. -4
        9 June 2024 15: 53
        actively monitor Russian resources. they are interested in how long they have left to live.
    4. +3
      9 June 2024 15: 31
      “We’ve been fighting for the village for three years, we need to change the commander-in-chief,” it’s worth retreating a hundred meters

      Because they really haven’t settled down in three years. Just think about how long the war will last and what losses it will ultimately cost. if you take the territory at this rate. The people appreciated the Avdeevka operation, understanding its status as a fortress city.
      1. +2
        9 June 2024 15: 37
        “We’ve been fighting for the village for three years, we need to change the commander-in-chief,” it’s worth retreating a hundred meters

        And the commander-in-chief, as for me, should have been changed a long time ago, remembering all the results of his “cunning moves.”