US reconnaissance drone spotted at record close distance from Sochi

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US reconnaissance drone spotted at record close distance from Sochi

An American reconnaissance drone is again circling over the Black Sea in maximum proximity to the Russian borders.

According to the Flightradar24 portal, the RQ-4 Global Hawk reconnaissance drone with the call sign FORTE13 has already been at record close distance from Sochi several times today.





In addition, a British reconnaissance aircraft RC-135W Rivet Joint with the call sign RRR7229 was spotted in the western part of the Black Sea.



It is worth noting that, as a rule, the activity of American and British intelligence aviation in the Black Sea ends with attempts by the Kyiv regime troops to attack the Crimean Peninsula, the bridge across the Kerch Strait or Sevastopol using missiles or unmanned boats provided by the West.

This pattern perfectly demonstrates the full involvement of the United States and its allies in the current conflict in Ukraine. At the same time, it should not be ruled out that in addition to transferring intelligence data and long-range weapons to Kyiv, NATO specialists can take a direct part in planning and implementing attacks on Russian territory.

Let us recall that right now there are active discussions in the North Atlantic Alliance about the possibility of lifting the ban on the Armed Forces of Ukraine carrying out strikes on Russian territory with Western weapons. At the same time, Russian President Vladimir Putin during yesterday’s conference warned leaders of European states, how such games could turn out for them.
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  1. +58
    29 May 2024 16: 23
    There is a suspicion that even if he crosses the border, nothing will happen to him. And period.
    1. -10
      29 May 2024 16: 28
      Quote: al3x
      If he even crosses the border, he won’t be in harm’s way

      Certainly. He will fly to us for permanent residence and save his life. There, AI must be present in the brain - this is intelligence that can make decisions. good
      1. +41
        29 May 2024 17: 18
        There is an option! Invite the Houthis to the Black Sea on a high-speed boat and take them under guard. And they will accidentally shoot down Reapers and similar UAVs!
        And another option like this! Everyone who is fighting with the Anglo-Saxons is the same Houthis, Taliban, etc.. Supply them with long-range weapons, and let them beat the Anglo-Saxons to the fullest! They should not exist either in Africa or in Asia!
        We need to work using their own methods! Right on the tracing paper...
        1. +15
          29 May 2024 17: 25
          There is an option, give the Abkhazians air defense systems and after they shoot down this device, roll your eyes and say that we have nothing to do with this...
          1. +10
            29 May 2024 19: 17
            "Yemeni rebels report another downed American MQ-9 Reaper drone"....maybe invite these guys
            1. +6
              30 May 2024 08: 47
              Quote from Egeni
              "Yemeni rebels report another downed American MQ-9 Reaper drone"....maybe invite these guys

              What difference does it make who presses the button? The main thing is where the missile that hit him came from. If our leadership does not make a decision, no Houthis will help. So they will silently watch these flights. Although everyone already understands that this is direct participation in hostilities against Russia. And what difference does it make whether the drone gunner is located on the territory of Ukraine or in the skies over the Black Sea?
              1. +1
                31 May 2024 11: 20
                Styopa, hello. It seems to me that some of the highest ranks in the Moscow Region have too much shoulder straps, and Monomakh’s hats are not the right size...
                They don’t press me, I only have four little stars and a different hat. But then a brilliant thought came into my “confusion”: why not send all the men of the General Staff to the LBS, everyone, starting with Gerasimov, and by the way, all the military registration and enlistment officers too... can you imagine what a reserve for re-education.)
                Moreover, the generals and their deputies should be distributed among all shelled points in the Belgorod region and Kursk region.
                I think that the remaining female officers could cope with the turnover... and not only that.
          2. +4
            29 May 2024 19: 28
            Quote: Staal
            There is an option to give the Abkhazians air defense systems and after they shoot down this device....
            You probably think that the Abkhazians are our friends
            1. -5
              29 May 2024 20: 48
              I do not think
              but with the help of a policy of threats and blackmail you can get your way
              1. +2
                30 May 2024 06: 44
                Quote: Staal
                I do not think
                but with the help of a policy of threats and blackmail you can get your way

                Unfortunately, we never learned this. And we don't want to learn...
                1. +1
                  30 May 2024 13: 54
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  Unfortunately, we never learned this. And we don't want to learn...

                  Who has the Black Sea in its Area of ​​Responsibility? Or with seven nannies, an unattended child? Question for the commander of the Black Sea Fleet - why don’t we shoot down the UAV? The equipment and people entrusted to you are dying due to the operation of enemy UAVs. What have you done to protect the Russian Federation? Who was asked about the losses? Or from whom are you expecting a “magic kick”? I grumbled about something today, it hurt. hi
                  1. 0
                    31 May 2024 06: 38
                    Quote: fif21
                    Question for the commander of the Black Sea Fleet - why don’t we shoot down the UAV?

                    So they fly over neutral waters
                    1. +1
                      31 May 2024 06: 52
                      Quote: BecmepH
                      So they fly over neutral waters

                      laughing Their "neutral waters" are where their ability to spy or strike ends! Let's dismantle Paris or Washington into gravel from neutral waters. Or NATO planes will dismantle St. Petersburg and Moscow from neutral waters to gravel. Is working from adjacent territory in the interests of the enemy’s armed forces no longer considered an act of aggression? "Woe from Wit" or deliberate sabotage? hi
                      1. 0
                        31 May 2024 07: 10
                        Quote: fif21
                        Let's dismantle Paris or Washington into gravel from neutral waters

                        So go ahead and figure it out? Why are you being a hero from the couch?
                      2. +1
                        31 May 2024 07: 14
                        Quote: BecmepH
                        So go ahead and figure it out? Why are you being a hero from the couch?

                        wassat I don't have a red button or a special suitcase.
                        But I have a question about why reconnaissance means can be used from neutral waters to cause damage! But there is no answer. hi
                      3. 0
                        31 May 2024 08: 38
                        So our reconnaissance planes also fly along Alaska...
                      4. +1
                        31 May 2024 09: 32
                        Quote: BecmepH
                        So our reconnaissance planes also fly along Alaska...

                        And what ? As a result of their flights, at least one US warship was sunk or damaged, or US citizens were killed? Norway prohibited entry into the port of a Russian civilian ship, citing that it could carry out a reconnaissance mission.
                      5. -1
                        31 May 2024 11: 45
                        Quote: fif21
                        Norway prohibited entry into the port of a Russian civilian ship, citing that it could carry out a reconnaissance mission.

                        Everything was mixed together.
                        Find other (brainless) ears.
                        All the best.
                      6. +1
                        31 May 2024 11: 49
                        Quote: BecmepH
                        Find other (brainless) ears.
                        All the best.

                        Brain in ears? This is something new . recourse
                        And you do not have to be ill .
                    2. +1
                      31 May 2024 12: 18
                      Quote: BecmepH
                      So they fly over neutral waters

                      So, if some ships from neutral waters, or planes from neutral airspace fire at our territory, is this normal? Can you just watch in silence? But in fact, Global Hawk does this, directing attack drones
                      1. 0
                        31 May 2024 13: 45
                        Quote: Piramidon
                        Quote: BecmepH
                        So they fly over neutral waters

                        So, if some ships from neutral waters, or planes from neutral airspace fire at our territory, is this normal? Can you just watch in silence? But in fact, Global Hawk does this, directing attack drones

                        And you put it all together. They don’t shoot at our territory from neutral waters! We also conduct reconnaissance from neutral territory and they don’t shoot at us. Be objective. You are already an adult.
                        Some kind of childish judgments, honestly))
                      2. +1
                        31 May 2024 17: 27
                        Quote: BecmepH
                        We also conduct reconnaissance from neutral territory

                        And what, after our reconnaissance, strikes are carried out on the reconnaissance targets? Do not confuse simply reconnaissance and targeting weapons. These are slightly different things.
                      3. 0
                        1 June 2024 15: 42
                        Quote: Piramidon
                        Quote: BecmepH
                        We also conduct reconnaissance from neutral territory

                        And what, after our reconnaissance, strikes are carried out on the reconnaissance targets? Do not confuse simply reconnaissance and targeting weapons. These are slightly different things.

                        You yourself wrote about the shelling of our territory, and now write about targeting. How boring. No objectivity((
                      4. +1
                        1 June 2024 15: 50
                        What is the difference between the actual shelling and the guidance and adjustment of this shelling? Spotters are always considered the same enemies as artillerymen, rocket men and other shooters.
                        Well, about your boredom, this is not a complaint against me. Roll a hundred and sing and dance to the accordion. Maybe the boredom will disappear. laughing
                      5. 0
                        1 June 2024 16: 10
                        Quote: Piramidon
                        What is the difference between the actual shelling and the guidance and adjustment of this shelling? Spotters are always considered the same enemies as artillerymen, rocket men and other shooters.
                        Well, about your boredom, this is not a complaint against me. Roll a hundred and sing and dance to the accordion. Maybe the boredom will disappear. laughing

                        If you don’t see the difference in aiming and firing, then it’s even more boring to be with you. You understand everything, but pride does not allow you to admit a mistake. As for the sotochka and dancing, that’s up to you. I have other priorities
                      6. +1
                        1 June 2024 16: 13
                        I understood you. You just like to troll out of constant boredom.
                      7. 0
                        1 June 2024 16: 17
                        Quote: Piramidon
                        I understood you. You just like to troll out of constant boredom.

                        I have no time to be bored. And, this is not trolling, but the truth, which you do not recognize as a child.
                        All the best. I don’t want to talk to you about anything and waste time.
            2. +2
              30 May 2024 17: 10
              Quote: Bad_gr
              You probably think that the Abkhazians are our friends

              Of course not. They are not friends, but consumers who will betray as soon as the opportunity arises (as has always happened to us without a strong hand).
              But where should they go now? If they are not friends, Russia will withdraw recognition... and the proud Abkhazians go straight into the friendly hands of Vano, Kote, Valiko and other Mimino. For Abkhazians this is the worst nightmare.
          3. 0
            1 June 2024 08: 00
            The Abkhazians only need billions from the Russian budget, but they don’t give a damn about Russian interests, especially the military...
        2. +4
          29 May 2024 18: 03
          Quote: krot
          There is an option! Invite the Houthis to the Black Sea on a high-speed boat and take them under guard. And they will accidentally shoot down Reapers and similar UAVs!
          Just before that, call the Scarecrow, appointed US Ambassador to Russia, to the Foreign Ministry and warn her that we understand the hints and that our air defense is already on constant combat readiness. Thank you for the “gesture of goodwill” - a warning about the upcoming Ukrainian attack on Crimea.
          am
        3. -2
          29 May 2024 18: 32
          Dreamer.... you called me.... have you heard such a song? We don’t have any channels to put there because there is no intelligence, no services there that deal with this.
          We don't have the USSR... We don't have a KGB. SVR is a fiction of a sidekick
          1. 0
            29 May 2024 18: 52
            We don’t have any channels to put there because there is no intelligence, no services that deal with this.

            If the UN sanctions that we signed are not imposed on Libya or Yemen, then we can quite easily supply weapons to anyone by military convoy!
            Do you dream about spy passions, about D. Bond? ))) So that the KGB secretly supplies..))
            ..have you heard such a song?

            And by the way, you will poke your wife...
        4. +3
          29 May 2024 18: 48
          The Houthis destroyed their sixth Reaper today. It’s a shame when the Houthi air defense shoots down American UAVs, but the domestic air defense does not shoot down American UAVs.

          Photos and videos at the link below.

          https://m.vk.com/wall-104764077_526136

          But this is interesting.
          Almost an entire American MQ-9 Reaper reconnaissance and strike UAV was shot down by Houthi air defenses in Marib province.

          On the American side, they stated that the car was allegedly lost due to technical problems. In total, since the beginning of the war against Yemen, the United States has lost 6 Reapers.

          As they rightly note, the contents of the car will be closely studied by the Iranians and used in the development of the Iranian unmanned program. The main interest is the filling, since the airframe itself has long been copied by both the Iranians and the Chinese.

          1. +2
            29 May 2024 18: 54
            Video of the Houthis on the downed Reaper.

            https://m.vk.com/video-104764077_456285118
            1. +2
              30 May 2024 00: 02
              By the way, judging by the picture, he was not shot down but landed! Iran did this at one time, after which it created its own unmanned program.
            2. +2
              30 May 2024 00: 27
              Laughing, writing, zushka
        5. 0
          29 May 2024 22: 14
          And they will accidentally shoot down Reapers and similar UAVs!

          Why shoot down?
          Isn’t it possible that our aircraft with electronic warfare would be hovering next to them?
          What prevents?
        6. +2
          30 May 2024 00: 00
          That’s what I wanted to say - let’s hire the Houthis, since our authorities are so indecisive...
        7. +1
          30 May 2024 00: 38
          Give them long range weapons
          Will it fit?
          Already reported:
          The life-giving Houthis received a sea-based ballistic missile "Ghadr" from Iran.
          Naval combat in the Red Sea and Gulfs reaches a new level.

          The Ghadr-110 is an improved version of the Shahab-3A, also known as the Ghadr-101. Shahab-3 was developed on the basis of the North Korean Nodong-1, enlarged by the R-17 Elbrus.
          "Gadr-110" has higher maneuverability.
          They carry a warhead weighing from 650 to 1000 kg.
          The Ghadr-101 and Ghadr-110 are expected to provide Iran with anti-satellite and IRBM capabilities.
          The missile is entirely manufactured in Iran.
        8. +2
          30 May 2024 07: 08
          Quote: krot
          There is an option! Invite the Houthis to the Black Sea on a high-speed boat and take them under guard. And they will accidentally shoot down Reapers and similar UAVs!
          And another option like this! Everyone who is fighting with the Anglo-Saxons is the same Houthis, Taliban, etc.. Supply them with long-range weapons, and let them beat the Anglo-Saxons to the fullest! They should not exist either in Africa or in Asia!
          We need to work using their own methods! Right on the tracing paper...

          Our authorities are afraid of offending their partners.
        9. +3
          30 May 2024 09: 52
          Our capitalists have small intestines and tiny testicles. They are not capable of this. These are not communists.
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        1. +6
          29 May 2024 17: 17
          The Houthis need to lease ten square kilometers in Crimea.
          Why don’t we declare to the UN that, according to super-duper classified information from top secret agents, the Americans are striking our territory using target designation from drones in the Black Sea? Highly liked. And after that shoot down all the drones. Or you can do the opposite: first shoot down, then declare.
          There will be another blow tonight. am
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      2. +5
        29 May 2024 16: 42
        Quote: kvv
        apparently the partners made a good suggestion to the guarantor after an extremely memorable incident with their intelligence officer

        Let's assume. But what will he do to the air defense crew/pilot who doesn’t get pissed and knocks down the drone?
        Perhaps we need to rehearse the “who threw the felt boot on the start button?” (no one was to blame, there was no one, and in general it went astray on its own). laughing
        1. +6
          29 May 2024 16: 51
          But what will he do to the air defense crew/pilot who doesn’t get pissed and knocks down the drone?

          And then the air defense crew/pilot will be given a suggestion at the command of the guarantor and their lives will be ruined.
        2. +4
          29 May 2024 17: 09
          But what will he do to the air defense crew/pilot who doesn’t get pissed and knocks down the drone?

          If this had been possible, he would probably have been shot down. BUT, apparently, our air defense officers have strict instructions on this and no one wants enemies for themselves and their loved ones.
    3. +7
      29 May 2024 17: 32
      Meanwhile, Yemeni Houthi rebels from the Shiite Ansar Allah movement reported the downing of another American MQ-9 Reaper drone. The seventh American drone of this type shot down since the beginning of the escalation of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was hit by rebel air defense forces in the airspace of Marib province.
      Previously, a similar drone was destroyed in Yemeni airspace over Al-Bayda province. The American car was allegedly hit by an Iranian-made missile.
      Notice!!! - without screams, without groans and rantings, without any red lines and final warnings - they just shot it down, and that’s it.....
      Maybe our officials and politicians should be sent to advanced training courses with the Houthis?????
      1. +3
        29 May 2024 18: 03
        Quote: zloybond
        Notice!!! - without screams, without groans and rantings, without any red lines and final warnings - they just shot it down, and that’s it.....

        To be fair, they knock them down over their territory. But they tried to attack the AUG at sea, but nothing happened
      2. +5
        29 May 2024 18: 07
        Quote: zloybond
        Meanwhile, Yemeni Houthi rebels from the Shiite Ansar Allah movement reported the downing of another American MQ-9 Reaper drone.
        ...
        Notice!!! - without screams, without groans and rantings, without any red lines and final warnings - they just shot it down, and that’s it.....

        Don’t poison your already wounded soul, Ivan Fedorovich!
    4. +16
      29 May 2024 17: 35
      There is a suspicion that even if he crosses the border, nothing will happen to him.
      I read the entire comment thread, the conclusion is clear - how is everyone fed up with this situation when we see everything, we know everything, we can do anything, but nothing is being done other than unfounded statements from our elite. recourse
      1. -1
        29 May 2024 19: 00
        This is the reality now. I'm at a dead end, and a complete one at that. belay
    5. AAK
      +9
      29 May 2024 17: 42
      We are waiting for the arrivals, and the leadership of the Russian Federation and the command will once again dry off...
    6. 0
      29 May 2024 18: 40
      What if our leader is in Bocharov Ruchey? It’s scary to think what they are raising their hand to!
    7. 0
      29 May 2024 21: 07
      here, my friend, it turns out that only the Houthis have titanium Faberge!!! Yes .....and we will only chew snot and rejoice for the Houthis. By the way, this will already be 6 after confirmation. I agree that HE flies internationally and if we kill him, then in Alaska they will also do the same with our Air Force
    8. +1
      30 May 2024 00: 16
      It is still flying, it is already 00,16 Moscow time
    9. 0
      30 May 2024 05: 27
      I agree, with our policy of snoring into a rag, this is possible.
  2. +7
    29 May 2024 16: 23
    “US reconnaissance drone spotted at record close distance from Sochi” -

    — There are no Houthis against him...
    1. 0
      29 May 2024 16: 54
      hi
      It’s a shame our dryers didn’t have a hundred liters of kerosene for it.
      1. +5
        29 May 2024 18: 17
        There is plenty of kerosene... no eggs delivered
    2. +4
      29 May 2024 17: 05
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      “US reconnaissance drone spotted at record close distance from Sochi” -

      — There are no Houthis against him...

      Or a real leader of the country, and not a puppet of the oligarchs. How disgusting it is to realize this.
    3. +7
      29 May 2024 17: 20
      But there are fellows in the very top management Yes
  3. +9
    29 May 2024 16: 25
    The hunt for Yavorovo was remarkable, apparently. Since the Yankees and Saxons began to fuss so quickly. Looks like we left some very important ones there.
  4. +1
    29 May 2024 16: 25
    Run out of kerosene? So bring it!
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  6. +5
    29 May 2024 16: 27
    there are 16 drones flying there at 00:3, one from Turkey
    1. +2
      29 May 2024 16: 47
      Quote from farelouz
      there are 16 drones flying there at 00:3, one from Turkey

      Wow... Looks like they are preparing a good operation and will do a lot of mischief to us. It’s a shame that we know about this, see everything, but do nothing. Because the main one blew his pants.
    2. +4
      29 May 2024 17: 13
      there are 16 drones flying there at 00:3, one from Turkey

      The Guarantor and the Minister of Defense in Tashkent have no time to drink tea.
      1. -3
        29 May 2024 18: 33
        Well, they won’t get it to Tashket... well, but Sochi... Sochi is there and Sochi.... it happens.... it will fly, and it’s a fic with it
  7. +5
    29 May 2024 16: 29
    I sincerely don’t understand why these things stubbornly refuse to, if not shoot down, then at least drop them with a jet stream? This isn’t technically considered a shoot down, is it? Whose fault is it that your device is so unstable? Avon - during the times of the USSR, there were many cases when refueling was interfered with in this way, and no one saw a reason for war in this..
    1. +9
      29 May 2024 16: 35
      Global Hawk is obviously conducting electronic reconnaissance at such a distance from our coast. To counter this activity, you don’t even need to shoot it down, it’s enough to place an electronic warfare aircraft between it and our coast. The main question is, why is this not being done?
      1. +10
        29 May 2024 16: 39
        Quote: Cympak
        Global Hawk is obviously conducting electronic reconnaissance at such a distance from our coast. To counter this activity, you don’t even need to shoot it down, it’s enough to place an electronic warfare aircraft between it and our coast. The main question is, why is this not being done?

        How many electronic warfare boards do we have available and suitable for use?
        1. +10
          29 May 2024 16: 49
          How are the beauties doing there? The range of 150-300 km also seemed to have no analogues. Or was it purely an exhibit of Shoigov’s ceremonial army?
          1. +6
            29 May 2024 17: 15
            How are the beauties doing there?

            Are they really there? Maybe only on paper?
            1. +4
              29 May 2024 18: 06
              Are they really there? Maybe only on paper?


              That's what I'm talking about. I remember how many different types of equipment that had no analogues were shown in the “military acceptance”, but if you look at the reports from the front, there is practically nothing else besides the Soviet one.
            2. 0
              29 May 2024 20: 49
              But what a tank biathlon we have! It’s good that it was canceled this year. They understand that people can be completely annoyed with such tinsel...
        2. +1
          29 May 2024 16: 50
          There are completely new Su-34 NVOs with new electronic warfare containers, but they will need to be refueled during long duty in the air, and this requires highly qualified pilots
          1. 0
            29 May 2024 16: 55
            Quote: Cympak
            There are completely new Su-34 NVOs with new electronic warfare containers,

            I hope this is not about the almighty “Khibiny”?
            Quote: Cympak
            only they will need to be refueled during long duty in the air,

            How many “working” gas station attendants do we have?
            Quote: Cympak
            and this requires highly qualified pilots

            Haven't you really learned anything in all this time? But what about Syria, through which 100% of combat pilots passed?
            But seriously, then the confrontation between the RA “partners” apparently was not worked out during the entire time of the conflict, or... or there are no real opportunities for this.
            Except for the "rough landing (splashdown)" of course. But here other aspects come into play.
            1. +3
              29 May 2024 16: 57
              Everyone was preparing for Aviadarts and parades, learning songs, yes, a lot of things... read FighterBomber, he writes a lot about the Lao Aerospace Forces
              1. +3
                29 May 2024 17: 03
                Quote: Cympak
                Everyone was preparing for Aviadarts and parades, learning songs, yes, a lot of things... read FighterBomber, he writes a lot about the Lao Aerospace Forces

                Yes, I take your word for it laughing. To have no doubt, it is enough for me to see the situation in my industry request
      2. +1
        29 May 2024 16: 52
        There are civilian aircraft flying there, then you need to come close and target it with electronic warfare, and so you have to bring down weapons... I just can’t believe that ours will do this (sort of masochism), in short, there are no words, one 5-story , which everyone quickly understands.
      3. -2
        29 May 2024 16: 57
        Are you sure that we are not doing anything? I wouldn’t say that. We’ll see if the media tells us anything.
    2. -5
      29 May 2024 17: 27
      Because it is in neutral waters, and if we shoot it down there, then our aircraft can be attacked in neutral space, for example, an IL-76 flying to Syria or Africa... or a ship going to the same Syria with cargo for the group.
      1. +2
        29 May 2024 17: 33
        There is still some difference between a UAV and a manned vehicle, don’t you think?
        1. -3
          29 May 2024 18: 11
          for the military there is no difference
      2. +2
        29 May 2024 22: 18
        Quote: Staal
        Because it is in neutral waters, and if we shoot it down there, then our aircraft can be attacked in neutral space, for example, an IL-76 flying to Syria or Africa... or a ship going to the same Syria with cargo for the group.

        can Stop “shying away from your own shadow” already...?!!
        First:
        over the past 10-15 years, several RF aircraft (How then the Il-20 reconnaissance aircraft, between Syria and Turkey, as well as several military transport aircraft), were already shot down (!) , and not even by the parties to the conflict (!). And the most “furious response” of the Russian Federation was the tomato war....
        Secondly:
        When the conflict starts with the United States, they do not care not only about “neutral airspace,” but even the territories themselves, of any independent state (!), do not save them from the entry of their troops and the use of weapons. It is enough to say through the UN the magic phrase - "to ensure the interests of US National Security" ... !!!
        Just when planning and conducting SVO, apparently Russia has no will for - "ensuring YOUR national interests" ... !!! wink
        Everything else is a tale for the poor... what
        1. 0
          30 May 2024 00: 28
          Well, tell us how we should have reacted? - an atomic bomb on Istanbul? a strike on an airbase? on an airport? declare war “to ensure the interests of the National Security of the Russian Federation” and to the delight of many of our “partners”? What measures should be taken for a downed plane?
          1. 0
            30 May 2024 19: 04
            Quote: Staal
            Well, tell me how you should have reacted?

            If you allow me, I’ll try to answer your two replies to my comment with one...

            for the first
            highlighted above
            , probably would be example of USSR actions, when four employees of the Soviet Embassy were taken hostage in 1985 in Beirut....
            (there are different versions of the same thing, right up to sending the fingers of their relatives to terrorists, and almost by Vympelov, within a week or two ...) But as a result, - FACT, all four captured employees of the USSR Embassy were quickly released safe and alive..!!! smile
            That is, the shortest possible answer to your question is:
            Quote: Staal
            What measures should be taken for a downed plane?
            may sound - "decisive and effective!!" Yes
            To put it simply, - really different from - “drawing red lines” .. !!!

            and to the second answer, -
            Quote: Staal
            ..in the center of Ankara there was a powerful explosion of a car bomb, and 22 Turkish Air Force pilots were killed, am I the only one who thinks that there is a connection between these two events?
            I would like to believe that you are right...
            and if indeed, -
            Quote: Staal
            ...Among the dead was the same pilot, which with a sneaky strike “from around the corner” shot down a Russian plane over Syria.
            , then I am sincerely glad!!!
            Yes
            otherwise, the principle that says is “impunity, waits - permissiveness!!”...
            hi hi
        2. +2
          30 May 2024 00: 34
          And yes, on November 24, 2015, our Su-24 was shot down, and on February 17, 2016 (3 months later), a powerful car bomb exploded in the center of Ankara, killing 22 Turkish Air Force pilots. It seems to me alone that there is a connection between these two events ?
          Among the dead was the same pilot who shot down a Russian plane over Syria with a sneaky “around the corner” strike.
  8. +3
    29 May 2024 16: 30
    Why don’t our Sirius aircraft fly along the perimeter of the international space of the states?
    1. +1
      29 May 2024 16: 58
      Quote: Fatalist
      Why don’t our Sirius aircraft fly along the perimeter of the international space of the states?

      If our bases were in Mexico, Canada or Cuba, we would fly. And so... request
  9. +1
    29 May 2024 16: 30
    Here some people wave their swords towards NATO, but then they say you can’t touch this piece of metal because of the start of the Third World War.
  10. +17
    29 May 2024 16: 32
    The downing of a drone by Western partners will spoil the negotiating background for the chief Kremlin negotiator. He still has to sign an agreement in the emirates, don’t kill his illusory hope of becoming one of his own, bourgeois.
    1. 0
      29 May 2024 17: 00
      He still has to sign an agreement in the emirates, don’t kill his illusory hope of becoming one of his own, bourgeois.

      Exactly, he and his team are still sub-bourgeois, and they will remain so, even if the whole country is sold.
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    0
    29 May 2024 16: 34
    I wonder what the consequences will be for us if we shoot down?
    1. +18
      29 May 2024 16: 36
      NO_KA_KIH!!! Except, raising our authority in the world and the inspiration and pride of our fighters on the front line.
    2. +2
      29 May 2024 16: 40
      I wonder what the consequences will be for us if we shoot down?

      It depends on what.
      Well, the consequences depend on who you are.
      If you are not someone close to the Guarantor and not an oligarch, then for you the sun will still shine with the fire of its rays.
    3. 0
      29 May 2024 16: 46
      I wonder what the consequences will be for us if we shoot down?

      For example, a useless zone over the international waters of the Black Sea.
      I think that the consequence of the fall of the “pissed” Reaper was a small agreement along the lines of: we don’t touch them, they do us
      1. -3
        29 May 2024 18: 36
        and they will be able to provide it..... these are fantasies....
  12. +20
    29 May 2024 16: 36
    At the same time, Russian President Vladimir Putin, during yesterday’s conference, warned the leaders of European states how such games could turn out for them.

    It's time to warn the president that people are not tin soldiers!!!
    Enough with the political masturbation. Shoot down everything that harms Russia.
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  15. +3
    29 May 2024 16: 38
    in Sochi will they hammer ?????? It seems that some countries allowed to hit the Russian Federation! if they start hitting the Russian Federation, then the Russian Federation should start hitting with any weapon who has authorized it!
    1. +11
      29 May 2024 16: 53
      Quote: opuonmed
      in Sochi will they hammer ?????? It seems that some countries allowed to hit the Russian Federation!

      More likely at the Black Sea Fleet base in Novorossiysk. To finally drown the remnants of the fleet. After all, now almost all the ships from Sevastopol have fled there. But NATO intelligence officers identify them there too and guide NATO missiles. It seems that our guarantor has lost his sense of reality out of fear and is ready to sacrifice the Black Sea Fleet. But NATO reconnaissance forces will definitely not counteract or, moreover, shoot down. I endured...
      The remnants of the Black Sea Fleet in this case find themselves in a trap. If you do not leave the base and remain under the cover of the booms, then they, standing at the pier, will be hit with missiles. If they go out to sea, then at night the scouts will direct a swarm of BECs at them.
    2. -1
      29 May 2024 23: 06
      Maybe they’ll hit Putin’s palace, he just finished renovations there
  16. 0
    29 May 2024 16: 38
    It seems that Hawk flew closer to Adler two or three days ago, almost into the turnaround area for takeoff and landing at Adler airport. But it didn’t reach the “fence”
    1. -2
      29 May 2024 19: 55
      It seems that Hawk flew closer to Adler two or three days ago, almost into the turnaround area for takeoff and landing at Adler airport.

      But how did the 1st battery of 102 air defense missiles, which is supposed to cover the airport, allow this to happen?
      1. +1
        29 May 2024 20: 08
        In my comment it says “didn’t cross the fence.”
  17. +3
    29 May 2024 16: 41
    Quote: paul3390
    I sincerely don’t understand why these things stubbornly don’t want to, if not shoot down... Avon - during the times of the USSR
    ..

    You answered your own question. This is not the USSR now.
    1. 0
      29 May 2024 20: 14
      What about the Korean Boeing over Severomorsk, which the Boeing commander landed on the ice of the lake thanks to his skill all the way to Karelia.
  18. -1
    29 May 2024 16: 42
    According to the Flightradar24 portal, the RQ-4 Global Hawk reconnaissance drone with the call sign FORTE13 has already been at record close distance from Sochi several times today.
    Too shy to ask...
    And how would we live and what would we gossip about if there were no magical portal Flightradar24?!...
    I think our Moscow Region does not have access to it...
    That's why they don't shoot down.
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  20. +1
    29 May 2024 16: 50
    This is a bad sign. They still can’t decide to finally discourage them from flying over the Black Sea.
    Even the Figaro newspaper began to consider the possibility of missile attacks on Crimea and the Crimean Bridge.
    1. +6
      29 May 2024 17: 03
      Come on. Effective Khusnullin will repair it with the hands of irreplaceable specialists, and the bridge will be as good as new. Let's calmly continue the fight in the permitted space for the forester's hut.
  21. 0
    29 May 2024 16: 53
    The Houthis are shooting down in Yemen, why can't we?
    Introduce a ban on the flight of all UAVs or other aircraft (unfriendly) over the Russian exclusive economic zone 200 nautical miles (370,4 km) from the nearest point of the coastline. We just need to pass the law.
    Without the adoption of a law, navigation, the laying of pipelines and the use of airspace are allowed in the EEZ.
  22. 0
    29 May 2024 16: 55
    Quote: Aerodrome
    Houthis! pamagiteee!!!

    We made it. We are already asking the Houthis for help.
  23. 0
    29 May 2024 16: 56
    Well, they would have shot him down... By accident))).
    1. -3
      29 May 2024 17: 18
      pissing as if something would happen angry
  24. -1
    29 May 2024 17: 01
    N.S. Khrushchev also felt uncomfortable at his residence in Sochi when American missiles were in Turkey.
    True, after the brilliantly carried out Operation Anadyr, he had no reason to worry
  25. +9
    29 May 2024 17: 09
    Yes, everything is going according to plan as usual, “Voronezh” has been gouged, NATO is calmly flying and aiming, the State Department has approved strikes on Russia.... well, what about us..... “cunning plan” in action.... now they will strike Sochi the coast is just the season for vacationers... but here they just mumble about some kind of lines
  26. +2
    29 May 2024 17: 12
    US reconnaissance drone spotted at record close distance from Sochi

    I’m embarrassed to ask, but the record closest distance is how many in kilometers?
  27. +1
    29 May 2024 17: 17
    As they say, security can be high or low. The Kremlin has long adhered to the second option. Therefore, stop flying...
  28. +3
    29 May 2024 17: 21
    US Secretary of State Antony Blinken arrived on an official visit to Moldova.
    Well, apparently we will soon see battles in Transnistria.... Lavrov, as usual, will express concern
    1. +1
      29 May 2024 19: 54
      Moldova is being prepared as a springboard to prevent the Russian army from taking Odessa. Here the Amer martinets, paddling pools and Romanian camps have been training for a long time and feel at home.
  29. +1
    29 May 2024 17: 28
    Shoot down anything that poses an immediate threat to the state.
  30. +1
    29 May 2024 17: 31
    Urgently, urgently, guided by the comments, Russia must violate all international norms and territorial borders! To attack the damned infidel, who conducts reconnaissance without shame. laughing good
    1. -5
      29 May 2024 18: 03
      Well, yes, what are the “norms” drunk or what?
  31. -2
    29 May 2024 17: 34
    It is necessary to make the presence of this junk near the borders of Russia uncomfortable. How ? The experts know.
  32. -3
    29 May 2024 17: 54
    Someone is seriously calling for an end to the lawlessness regarding the flights of foreigners in international airspace. Have you moved away from Budun or something? According to the same international law, our hawks fly everywhere.
    1. -1
      29 May 2024 18: 08
      no one is calling on civilian aircraft to shoot down drones and AWACS only, especially since our AWACS shoot down
  33. +3
    29 May 2024 17: 56
    Is it a big problem if our plane flies underneath it and gets in the way in every possible way?
  34. +2
    29 May 2024 17: 56
    Well, we are preparing for news like: “the missile attack was repulsed, debris fell on the airfield,” and videos of the night glow from the airfield are circulating online
    1. -1
      29 May 2024 18: 05
      Yes, judging by the fact that Gelendzhik was attacked, there will be an attack on the resort area of ​​Sochi - Lazarevskoye - Adler
  35. +1
    29 May 2024 18: 02
    A questo punto credo che inglesi e Amerikani stiano per partorire qualcosa. Sarà meglio cominciare ad abbatterli!
    1. -4
      29 May 2024 18: 12
      il ragazzo dice tutto correttamente
  36. +5
    29 May 2024 18: 05
    There is a big difference between just an aircraft in neutral airspace and the same ones, but providing strikes against the Russian Federation. You must first warn, and then shoot down.
    And there is no need to piss about our planes in neutral airspace. They do not support strikes on the US and EU.
  37. +3
    29 May 2024 18: 27
    As for Sochi, this is a record short distance to Armavir, where the strategic missile attack warning system has already been hit. Have you decided to finish it off?...
  38. -1
    29 May 2024 18: 27
    How many brave people with balls are on the forum, wow. there are balls but no thought. completely neutral waters and the same air space. no? doesn’t mean anything?
    1. +3
      29 May 2024 20: 00
      That is, let the military and peaceful Russian citizens die, the infrastructure be destroyed, but neutral waters and airspace are more important for the Kremlin?
  39. +1
    29 May 2024 18: 37
    Is it possible to send some unmarked cargo ship to sea with a Buk on board?
  40. +1
    29 May 2024 18: 43
    Call the Houthis - let them close the issue
  41. +2
    29 May 2024 19: 42
    Probably only after such a UAV excursion something flies into Bocharov Stream will our INDEPENDENT one begin to do something. Or do the Houthis have steelier belongings? But no, they simply have nothing to lose in Europe and the Americas
  42. +5
    29 May 2024 21: 30
    Putin’s partners were allowed to fight only on the territory of Ukraine, and Medvedev was allowed to fight only with his tongue. Both are lawyers and know that American rules and red lines cannot be violated.
  43. +3
    29 May 2024 23: 02
    It was in vain that Putin closed the military base in Cuba, very in vain. He makes all gestures of goodwill to his “partners”, he’s such a good-natured guy, he made all his friends, acquaintances and relatives billionaires, and the common people bled his “kindness”.
    1. -1
      30 May 2024 10: 48
      He did not close it, everything happened since the betrayal of the marked gang.
      1. +1
        30 May 2024 12: 44
        On October 17, 2001, President Vladimir Putin announced at a meeting at the Ministry of Defense the liquidation of military bases in Lourdes and Cam Ranh. The withdrawal of the base was carried out in August 2002.

        Since 2004, due to the gradual deterioration of Russian-American relations, the Russian leadership has been considering the possibility of restoring the Russian base in Lourdes. At the beginning of 2014, negotiations with Cuba on this matter intensified.

        In July 2014, according to a number of media reports, during the visit of Russian President V. Putin to Cuba, an agreement in principle was reached on the resumption of the center’s activities. However, V. Putin himself denied information about such an agreement, emphasizing: “We are able to solve the problems facing the defense capability without this component.”
      2. 0
        30 May 2024 16: 04
        everything was covered up in front of him and personally by him. You can’t even blame it on Dimosik....he wasn’t even on the “throne” then..
  44. +1
    30 May 2024 00: 14
    far from aviation, but why not launch our “wooden training drone” into neutral waters, which, having “lost” control, will cause an accident (aircraft accident). if something happens, you can even apologize, saying that it happened, anything can happen. and no deliberate impact such as knocking down and dousing with kerosene.
    1. 0
      30 May 2024 16: 06
      but we simply don’t have those capable of flying like that in principle, and even at such a distance)) there is no communication or satellites... or the UAVs themselves)) and they can shoot down air defense on a campaign only overhead... and not 200-400 km away ..... and in order to piss on kerosene again, you still need to find it there... and fly... and as soon as our aerospace force immediately falls from the sky onto the airfields... the threat of a missile attack is announced
  45. 0
    30 May 2024 00: 24
    involvement is not involvement, once again we state the fact that they are located close to our borders, they are deciding the issue of allowing strikes into the depths of Russia, and we are pulling the cat by the tail. Shoot them to hell, what should they do away from their shores, especially not the first time they have corrected their corrections and shared intelligence with the Ukrainians. Rommiya keeps mumbling, they are getting more and more impudent
  46. 0
    30 May 2024 02: 18
    This pattern perfectly demonstrates the full involvement of the United States and its allies in the current conflict in Ukraine. At the same time, it should not be ruled out that in addition to transferring intelligence data and long-range weapons to Kyiv, NATO specialists can take a direct part in planning and implementing attacks on Russian territory.

    Guys, in my Supreme opinion, we need to stop making all this legal fuss and strive to be a good guy.
    This won't work in war.
    Why are we so afraid of everything? Get into the fray and fight!
    Why don't we arm the Houthis with anti-ship missiles and UAVs?
    What are we waiting for?
    Why don't we hit, say, the factories that produce weapons, whose missiles are hitting Belgorod?
    For Czech military factories? Let them burn properly. Otherwise they won't stop. What is needed is a sudden, powerful blow or a series of attacks on weapons factories. For the company Matra BAE Dynamics Aérospatiale, which produces Scalp missiles hitting Crimea?
    Without the determination to win, there will be no victory... it's time to realize this and act.
    1. 0
      30 May 2024 16: 10
      simply because one can only portray their appearance and presence of mind... like a lawyer... like)) so he’s making a fuss) and the other is not there. all the others..long ago...at 14 and later...gone
  47. +1
    30 May 2024 04: 19
    Kerch. The ferries were damaged. That’s the answer why we were flying.
  48. +1
    30 May 2024 06: 36
    It’s okay, our red line runs through the Urals. So, let him enjoy flying and explore for his health. After all, the motto of our leadership is “Soplizhuystvo and Solzhivstvo.”
  49. +1
    30 May 2024 10: 16
    When I read that the reconnaissance officer was flying over Sochi, I thought, “probably the Krasnodar coast will be bombed, don’t worry, it will be a good night in Kerch,” but I miscalculated because the information was very stupid. The drone, as it turned out, judging by the map, flew along a route parallel to our borders from Sevastopol to Sochi, and Kerch was right in the center of the recon route. The night was ruined by the hiss of rockets and numerous explosions. My wife said, “..at first I thought these fireworks were about another holiday,” and then she ran to take blood pressure pills.....
  50. +1
    30 May 2024 10: 46
    I wonder how many seconds the Anglo-Saxons, not to mention the Zionists, endured this before making a decision to destroy the UAVs, especially during and during their military operations in the region? Something tells me that they would have accompanied him from the moment of takeoff and upon entering the affected area, he would have been guaranteed to be destroyed or blocked for the purpose of capture, and then they would not have given a damn about the whining and barking that arose. But we are not like that, we are good, we will suffer and obsequiously fulfill, not even the laws, but the rules written by our enemies for their colonies.
  51. +2
    30 May 2024 10: 52
    Guys - what are you doing?!! Our GDP is a lawyer to the core! He will observe all the laws that no one on the other side already observes! He said - if a fight is unavoidable, then strike first, but we all know what happens to those who follow the “rules” in a fight. The enemy uses the entire possible range of vile techniques! Let's draw conclusions...
  52. 0
    30 May 2024 12: 04
    I’m an amateur in the field of electronic warfare, but maybe the pros can tell me about the use of tools with powerful EMP (electromagnetic pulse). Is it really impossible, if not to knock him down, then to blind him to death? And look for him, find him... who, what and how... if Faberge is not made of steel today, alas!
    1. +1
      30 May 2024 15: 48
      Not so simple. Firstly, in order to be guaranteed to burn out on-board equipment, and more than one, it needs such a power that it will be detected even in Argentina, and accordingly, the location of the source will be known to the whole world (somewhat exaggerated). And most importantly, equipment throughout the region will suffer, incl. and civilian airliners in the air, and this is risky. There are other ways, but still it is not so simple and hidden, taking into account its (UAV) repeated escort, incl. satellite. Something like this in general terms, also taking into account the waters of NATO countries. And technically, there are no problems, up to a banal air defense missile or fighter, again you need the will and command of the authorities, and they are the only ones in the whole world who comply with some laws, while at the same time trying to play with the cheater on his own field.
      1. 0
        30 May 2024 20: 15
        Thank you for your reply. Regarding air defense and the actions of fighter aircraft, there is no doubt and never was. It is clear that these weapons have no stealth.
  53. 0
    30 May 2024 16: 03
    Yesterday he flew and at night Kerch was shaken by explosions.... oh... pops...
  54. +1
    30 May 2024 17: 37
    A simple script to solve the problem. A certain company buys an old cargo ship flying the flag of Moldova or Mongolia or.... They load a BUK installation on board and set it to cruise in the Black Sea, accidentally enter a reconnaissance patrol area, then a two-missile salvo.....
    1. 0
      30 May 2024 22: 26
      then a two-missile salvo.....

      What can we say? Mitrich is handsome, that's all! I AM FOR!
      It is also advisable to install the Krajina BUK on the Soviet model. They say the Ukrainians are to blame...
      What about aiming at a target from the ground with a good radar if the Soviet doesn’t take the enemy right away??!
  55. 0
    31 May 2024 00: 20
    Quote: Vl Nemchinov
    will for - "ensuring YOUR national interests" ... !!!


    It is enough to look at the new nesting places of high-ranking officials who left Russia with the beginning of the Northern Military District, and it will become clear why the Reapers do not go astray.
    All these deputy prime ministers, governors, members of the APashechki (former) and just ghouls, like Moishi and Israelevich Sagal (nee Chubais), ended up in Israel, the USA, Germany (Klebanov).
  56. +1
    31 May 2024 11: 32
    Spotted and for some reason not shot down, because it’s boring! We must take an example from the Houthis; soon a dozen will be shot down!
  57. +1
    31 May 2024 12: 13
    In this confrontation on the part of the enemy there are no longer any laws or rules. “An enemy NATO reconnaissance agent in neutral waters near the state border of the Russian Federation is subject to destruction” - Putin’s Decree. Signed by the Federation Council. Unconditional liquidation. Stop celebrating the humanitarians.. Beat the Anglo-Saxons with a backhand.
  58. 0
    31 May 2024 13: 02
    Why don't they shoot down? I don’t care about conventions - in war it’s like in war.