A high-ranking officer of the Ministry of Defense Department for State Defense Procurement was detained in Moscow

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A high-ranking officer of the Ministry of Defense Department for State Defense Procurement was detained in Moscow

The purges in the Ministry of Defense continue; after the head of the Main Directorate of Communications of the Russian Armed Forces, Lieutenant General Vadim Shamarin, high-ranking officer Vladimir Verteletsky, representing the department of the Russian Ministry of Defense for ensuring state defense orders, was detained. Russian resources report this.

Employees of the Department of Military Counterintelligence (DVKR) detained Vladimir Verteletsky, an officer of the Department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for ensuring state defense orders, suspected of receiving a large bribe. Previously, he carried out fraud with government tenders for defense orders and attracted third-party entrepreneurs for a certain bribe. According to available information, Verteletsky allegedly handed over a good contract with the military department to businessmen he knew, for which he received a house and a car, which he registered in the name of a relative.



Currently, Verteletsky is detained on charges of receiving a large bribe. The question of his preventive measure is being decided

— sources in law enforcement agencies say.

The court arrested Vladimir Verteletsky for two months, satisfying the investigation's request. At the moment, he has been charged with abuse of power in the performance of official duties. It is reported that in 2022 it accepted uncompleted work as part of development work under a government contract, causing damage to the state amounting to more than 70 million rubles.
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  1. +29
    23 May 2024 19: 41
    Remove weeds so that the wheat grows clean. Make them work. Make them do something. For reforestation, for forest clearing, or better yet, for the front line.
    1. +5
      23 May 2024 19: 49
      At least, dear sir, you write to whom you are addressing your proposals.
      1. +14
        23 May 2024 22: 59
        Who should I write to? One might think that Chief Lampas was not in the know, and the Supreme One was deceived again, as he himself likes to say lately...
        1. +11
          24 May 2024 00: 13
          The Supreme Commander is deceived by all and sundry.
          1. +3
            24 May 2024 06: 47
            Quote from Aken
            The Supreme Commander is deceived by all and sundry.

            Is the Supreme Commander in an information vacuum? You are naive.
            This means that “the time has come to scatter stones, and the time to gather stones; a time to hug, and a time to avoid hugs.” (King Solomon)
            1. +8
              24 May 2024 09: 06
              We have a good king. The boyars around are bad, deceitful, steal, take families to their adversary
              It is necessary to send walkers to the Kremlin so that they tell him the truth.
              1. +5
                24 May 2024 11: 59
                Quote from Aken
                We have a good king. The boyars around are bad, deceitful, steal, take families to their adversary
                It is necessary to send walkers to the Kremlin so that they tell him the truth.

                I support your sarcasm. But I repeat: “He knows everything perfectly!” Either they are holding him tightly by the bells, or the time for cleaning has not come. And yet, on our sofas, we see further and know more.
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              2. +2
                26 May 2024 02: 00
                The walkers do not reach the Kremlin...for some reason they explode.
              3. -1
                26 May 2024 11: 47
                ..but the “king” is too gullible or naive!!!
                1. -2
                  27 May 2024 23: 08
                  Just weird......
              4. +1
                27 May 2024 14: 19
                There is no need to simplify everything so much, there are much more complex games and combinations.
                1. -2
                  27 May 2024 23: 09
                  Moreover, it is not in the interests of the people.
            2. +3
              24 May 2024 14: 31
              Rather, the time has come for a new galaxy of “comrades-in-arms.” As Akinfiy Demidov said in the movie “The Demidovs”, addressing the exiled Prince Menshikov when he met: “Who were you? Did you steal from the treasury? They crushed you, what has changed - a profitable position has become vacant, now a new one will steal.”
              1. +1
                24 May 2024 19: 19
                In Russia I get robbed just like others, but this is a good sign and shows that there is something to steal

                Wrote by Empress Catherine II. ))
    2. -9
      23 May 2024 19: 53
      They will send them to the uranium mines the old fashioned way, alas... and there has long been leaching, white coats and less radiation than the average background on the street... recourse
      1. +6
        23 May 2024 20: 07
        Interesting, winked and what position will they be assigned to in the Northern Military District if they write an application from the zone?
        1. +5
          23 May 2024 20: 16
          I wonder, winked, what position will they be assigned to at the SVO if they write an application from the area?
          Orderly by company wink
          1. +4
            23 May 2024 20: 35
            Quote: Dutchman Michel
            I wonder, winked, what position will they be assigned to at the SVO if they write an application from the area?
            Orderly by company wink

            Is there anything to steal from this position?
            1. +3
              23 May 2024 21: 06
              In the army - in any position, there is something to steal. Unfortunately. It is possible without theft. Example: Our "ensign" exchanged canned "mackerel with added oil" in a trash bin in Afghanistan with the same ensign for "mackerel in tomato." It seems that the soldiers were not “loved”, but what would an ensign do without benefit? I didn’t even understand what the secret was. Both were written off. After six months of "mackerel with added oil", "mackerel in tomato" was considered "red fish".
              1. +2
                24 May 2024 10: 00
                I remember one such figure, the captain, sold solarium to spirits, was serving “chemistry” in Kohtla Yarve, Estonia, and also sought benefits, in general these animals have no conscience.

                .
            2. +3
              23 May 2024 21: 23
              Previously, it was possible to household. soap and a cloth - I don’t know now. And what difference does it make to them what to steal? The main thing here is not to lose your qualifications.
              1. +3
                24 May 2024 06: 50
                Quote: Alex 22 22
                Previously, it was possible to household. soap and a cloth - I don’t know now. And what difference does it make to them what to steal? The main thing here is not to lose your qualifications.

                You shouldn’t paint all ensigns with the same brush. I know honest officers and warrant officers.
                Can you tell yourself that you are crystal clear and did not take anything, of course, completely by accident?
                1. 0
                  24 May 2024 18: 56
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  You shouldn’t paint all ensigns with the same brush. I know honest officers and warrant officers.
                  You didn't understand me correctly about soap and a rag, I’m talking about orderlies. And about losing qualifications, I’m talking about Timurka and his pre-trial detention center team, and not about normal warrant officers and officers.
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  Quote: Alex 22 22
                  Previously, it was possible to household. soap and a cloth - I don’t know now. And what difference does it make to them what to steal? The main thing here is not to lose your qualifications.
                  Can you tell yourself that you are crystal clear and did not take anything, of course, completely by accident?
                  Such funny questions should be answered like this: Yes, I am crystal honest, untainted by anything, anyone next to me will seem like an absolutely dishonest person. I am the very measure of honesty and virtue that exists in our world!
            3. +1
              23 May 2024 22: 02
              These military officials-gentlemen remind me of the heroes of a fairy tale, for whom everything is not enough.
            4. -1
              24 May 2024 00: 14
              Is there anything to steal from this position?

              Regimental banner.
            5. 0
              26 May 2024 01: 44
              Professional ANALs, these will find something to hide on the nightstand.
        2. +4
          23 May 2024 20: 37
          Privateers, supply managers, grain cutters. Where else to place thieves...
          1. +3
            23 May 2024 20: 57
            They also forgot the position of head of the club.
            Judging by the last name, this one will most likely get out.
        3. +8
          23 May 2024 20: 52
          Quote: Clear
          Interesting, winked and what position will they be assigned to in the Northern Military District if they write an application from the zone?

          You see, Yasnaya, in theory it’s like joining an assault group as a private. But the trouble is that these people can let the fighters down and they will suffer unjustified losses.
          But there is a way out, bring all of them into one group and give a combat order - to take the “high ground.” And then, depending on your luck. Let those who remain alive continue to fight; they will ensure replenishment of the Belousov group. In any case, I hope, because Shoigu has created such a bug in the Moscow Region...
          1. +7
            23 May 2024 21: 09
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            bring them together into one group and give a combat order - take the “high ground”

            In simple terms, this is called a penal battalion.
          2. 0
            23 May 2024 21: 19
            State carriers and military secrets with the highest clearance and to the front line. It's congenial. What if they are captured? Maybe assign a platoon of special forces to each of them for security?
            1. +1
              23 May 2024 21: 31
              Quote: Alex 22 22

              State carriers and military secrets with the highest clearance and to the front line. It's congenial. What if they are captured?

              You're right, I didn't think about it.
              1. +1
                23 May 2024 21: 35
                Their work would be done by the masters who used to be. Although I hope that talents in Russia have not dried out even now. Yes, two months of intensive interrogations to get everything out of them. I think and execute there is nothing it would be.
              2. +1
                24 May 2024 05: 27
                Krasnoyarsk
                Let them be separate departments - provide clearing to parts.
                Well, there - whitewash, paint, sweep the yard.
                naturally - line personnel (janitor-landscaper, plasterer-molarist).
                1. 0
                  24 May 2024 06: 55
                  Quote from A17ttt
                  Krasnoyarsk
                  Let them be separate departments - provide clearing to parts.
                  Well, there - whitewash, paint, sweep the yard.
                  naturally - line personnel (janitor-landscaper, plasterer-molarist).

                  Great offer!
                  1. 0
                    24 May 2024 07: 37
                    BecmepH (Alexey)
                    Quote from A17ttt
                    Krasnoyarsk
                    Let them be separate departments - provide clearing to parts.
                    Well, there - whitewash, paint, sweep the yard.
                    naturally - line personnel (janitor-landscaper, plasterer-molarist).


                    Great offer!

                    I can only add that in 2-5 years or more, this will already be a new qualified specialist. Accordingly, with the entry and length of service in the work book, social contributions according to your salary.
                    This means that any housing office and Zelenstroy can objectively hire such an employee - within the framework of their existing experience and length of service.
                    True, no increase, because... You need a note stating that you do not have the right to occupy leadership positions.
                    1. -1
                      24 May 2024 19: 05
                      You are strange. Not all of their money was confiscated. And after they are registered by a mechanic at their expense, the Head of the city will run around and poke around in the toilets. And the Deputy Head should clean his shoes.
                      Quote from A17ttt
                      True, no increase, because... You need a note stating that you do not have the right to occupy leadership positions.
                      And when Pahan is actually in charge of the zone, does he have such a record? They cannot be released into life in any capacity! Do you understand this?! They will again buy whoever they need, build schemes, etc. The truth is on a different scale. You release a pike into a pond with crucian carp and forbid it to eat crucian carp. We'll see how it goes?
                  2. 0
                    24 May 2024 08: 22
                    Quote: BecmepH
                    Quote from A17ttt
                    Krasnoyarsk
                    Let them be separate departments - provide clearing to parts.
                    Well, there - whitewash, paint, sweep the yard.
                    naturally - line personnel (janitor-landscaper, plasterer-molarist).

                    Great offer!

                    I don't agree. Landscape designer on the construction of the Northern Latitudinal Railway Yakutsk - Magadan - this is a job that they can handle.
              3. +1
                26 May 2024 01: 48
                The Criminal Code needs to be changed. Under the USSR, these articles were executed by firing squad. They took me out into an open field, made me face a wall and shot me in the forehead.
                1. 0
                  26 May 2024 10: 06
                  They took me out into an open field, made me face a wall and shot me in the forehead. Yes Well, you are a master! Is there a wall in an open field? And if you’re facing the wall, you’ll probably get a bullet in the back of your head. But in essence, I agree with you.[media=http://]
            2. +1
              24 May 2024 00: 34
              Why security? In our age of high technology - a collar and 100g of explosives, as they show in the movies...))
        4. 0
          23 May 2024 21: 35
          Clear
          ......and what position will they be assigned to in the Northern Military District if they write an application from the area?

          If only the senior assistants were tempting the younger one. In general, they are not needed there.
        5. 0
          23 May 2024 23: 00
          To the economic department, and to the same place where they worked...
      2. 0
        23 May 2024 21: 17
        You also tell the fireman on a nuclear submarine to throw uranium into the firebox with a shovel.
      3. +4
        23 May 2024 21: 31
        high-ranking officer Vladimir Verteletsky detained

        I’m interested in how this werewolf got into this very department of the Ministry of Defense of the State Defense Order. Apparently, in the Arbat fortified area everything was seized and distributed for ten years in advance.
        1. +1
          26 May 2024 01: 50
          And I naively thought that the VKR takes them to the polygraph once a year, and they have a free spirit there.
          1. 0
            26 May 2024 08: 38
            Beck69
            I thought that VKR takes them to the polygraph once a year

            According to their status, they are not supposed to, and even if they lie like two fingers on the asphalt, they got into the role.
    3. +3
      23 May 2024 21: 25
      On the front line they can let you down. It’s better to sew or prepare something
  2. +2
    23 May 2024 19: 41
    We went well, however.
    more than 70 million rubles.
    It should have been enough for a modest house in London.
    1. +4
      23 May 2024 19: 46
      No, it’s not enough. The requests are not the same. Even here in the Krasnodar Territory it’s difficult..
    2. +1
      23 May 2024 19: 50
      And even slobber on travist maids... though not in the house anymore, and as a potential maid lol
    3. +22
      23 May 2024 19: 58
      You can go to the Moscow Region and write a decree of arrest, a carbon copy. How much dirt is there? And somewhere in hospitals, young boys without arms, without legs. Evil takes...(((
      1. +11
        23 May 2024 20: 12
        Alas and ah Andrey.... “it’s good where the butt is warm” (c) and alas, many live like this... I don’t understand these people... If there is a purge, and I see what’s brewing... I'm all for it good ... I had a situation 22 years ago... I was against the order... I had to carry it out... 2 good guys died, half a platoon was wounded and I cleaned up someone's face... for six months you know under what. He was demoted in rank and deprived of his reward for that battle (the show was cancelled). But the reward found that hero - in a similar situation he was ambushed six months later and, surprisingly, only he died recourse Awarded posthumously... Maybe he atoned for his guilt... I don’t know. request soldier I’m also to blame... emotions... the boy died alone in my arms... while they were moving away and dragging... well, they couldn’t do anything. After returning from the hospital... he just came and punched me in the jaw....
        1. +7
          23 May 2024 20: 42
          Quote from Enceladus
          I had a situation 22 years ago... I was against the order

          You have confused business and the army.
          The army is where they fight and, alas, die. And the mistake is life. But everything in the Ministry of Defense has nothing to do with the army, it’s business and there are different laws. Even the main one had to be changed.
          1. +2
            23 May 2024 21: 26
            Quote from: topol717
            You have confused business and the army.
            The army is where they fight and, alas, die.

            In war, the smart one will get rich, the handsome one will walk around, and get shot! This is what one official from the rear structures used to say. In war, the turnover of money is such....!!!! Everything is written off and attributed! One thing I noticed was that this kind of money does not bring happiness.
          2. 0
            24 May 2024 07: 01
            Quote from: topol717
            Even the main one had to be changed.

            Can it save? Apparently he had nothing to do with it...
        2. +2
          23 May 2024 21: 46
          Yes..Everything with us is through...))) My friend (a true friend and officer) told how at one time the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, Kuroyedov, inspected the engine room on the destroyer SF. I used a handkerchief to check if everything was cleaned. With a handkerchief!!! So, before Tsushima for the last time, the admirals inspected the engine room. That is OK. The SVO will throw out all this parquet dirt. Hope. Maybe smart front-line officers will come to the Moscow Region. And not bribe takers and young nipples. (from the word suck)
          1. 0
            24 May 2024 07: 03
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            young nipples

            Nipples sound good too...
          2. +1
            24 May 2024 10: 21
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            I used a handkerchief to check if everything was cleaned.
            Now, the general has nothing better to do than use a handkerchief to look for dirt in the hold of the ship. This is stupidity, and this is how our entire army is, at least it was like this under the USSR and now, as I understand it, it has not changed much.
    4. +6
      23 May 2024 19: 59
      "Let's go well, though."... good '37 you say laughing Oh well! It's only the beginning!
      1. +1
        23 May 2024 20: 09
        Quote: vladimirvn
        "Let's go well, though."... good '37 you say laughing Oh well! It's only the beginning!

        In you, grandmother and Putin - Leopold the cat winked
        1. 0
          23 May 2024 20: 14
          So the culprits were found for the failures at the Northern Military District.
        2. -1
          23 May 2024 22: 18
          I beg you... Glavnyuk of the Ministry of Defense did not suffer any punishment for the “pranks” of his deputy, Chmurik Ivanov, but was elevated to the post of Secretary of the Security Council of All Rus'! For memory - this is exactly the position that Boris Berezovsky asked for himself from the Guiding Glass - Yeltsin! Because this post is the third most important after the president and prime minister! It’s just that the beloved Dersu Uzala was carefully taken out of the attack and moved to a high post, but moved away from budget money - so that they wouldn’t stick! But the economic block remained the same - Nabiulina and Siluanov. Which means the continuation of the previous economic course according to the IMF patterns!
      2. +4
        23 May 2024 21: 00
        They probably “relaxed” too much after the Syrian campaign. Then it turned out that some of the adopted weapons turned out to be inoperative. They simply removed him from the army and terminated contracts for further production. And no one answered for this. We thought it would work here too, especially against the backdrop of the victorious declarations.
    5. +2
      23 May 2024 20: 45
      Well, you don’t think that he decided to take a bribe just once and was already caught? I think over the years of service there it is necessary to multiply by a hundred, if not more
    6. +1
      23 May 2024 21: 09
      We went well, however.
      "In shoals, in shoals." Or like leblyabi or like geese.
    7. +1
      23 May 2024 21: 21
      It should have been enough for a modest house in London.

      Not "Fatalo", so they continued caroling. I'm glad that what was collected earlier didn't end up in the sand.
  3. +31
    23 May 2024 19: 43
    How the new president began to clean... No match for the old one belay feel Something got in the way before, or I waited... For a long time. By the sea of ​​weather...
    1. +16
      23 May 2024 19: 47
      . How the new president began to clean... No match for the old one

      Dmitry... good drinks wassat )))
    2. +8
      23 May 2024 19: 48
      Took it off my tongue... Well, I'm not BBB laughing The new “term” of GDP clearly benefited good
      ZY hi soldier
      1. 0
        23 May 2024 19: 53
        Until the thunder strikes, the man will not cross himself!
    3. +11
      23 May 2024 19: 48
      Only the main one in this whole mess left in advance to work on another job recourse
    4. K_4
      +2
      23 May 2024 20: 39
      It seems that it was not Putin who started the purge, but someone who is behind him. Someone new who came to power with new elections, perhaps a real successor. Otherwise, Putin doesn’t go after the cleaner, at most the one who got his friend a pardon and a pension.
    5. +2
      23 May 2024 20: 48
      Just now they will find one builder of all sorts of island forts for 80 billion budget money
    6. +1
      23 May 2024 20: 51
      Quote from: dmi.pris1
      How the new president began to clean.. No match for the old belay feel. Something was in the way before, or he waited.. For a long time. The weather is bad by the sea

      Well, the new broom sweeps in a new way, with new strength, the old broom was already tired and worn out.
    7. +8
      23 May 2024 21: 01
      Quote from: dmi.pris1
      How the new president began to clean.

      Do you call Manturov's promotion a purge? Do you call leaving in the government all the famous names on which there is no place to put stamps a purge?
      Belousov began cleaning up, because, it seems to me, he was given carte blanche. But, I believe, they won’t let you touch the General Staff.
    8. +2
      23 May 2024 21: 12
      The eyes were simply “blindfolded.” Father didn’t notice, or the hated boyars reported. Their beards have already been tonsured. Or the rent is exorbitant.
  4. +9
    23 May 2024 19: 45
    And you kept asking why Belousov was appointed?
  5. +6
    23 May 2024 19: 46
    Will there even be anyone left there?
    1. +5
      23 May 2024 19: 48
      The guard will remain... We need to protect the property... So that the latter does not leave...
      1. +2
        23 May 2024 20: 58
        The guard will remain if he doesn’t get tired laughing
    2. +15
      23 May 2024 19: 54
      Quote from sdivt
      Will there even be anyone left there?

      I would formulate the question differently: Is there anyone there who doesn’t steal?
      1. +14
        23 May 2024 20: 01
        I'm afraid this question can be asked not only about MO...
        I am sure that in all these arrests we see only the tip of the iceberg, and we do not understand either the scale or the true reasons for what is happening
        1. +1
          23 May 2024 21: 04
          Well, we've been seeing it for a long time. And “we don’t know much.” In fact, what exists is what it is - there is no need to create illusions. They have never been justified yet. And then there is one blogger who develops strategic offensives and slams the boilers after taking a village of three houses. This is the same case.
        2. 0
          27 May 2024 14: 52
          The state simply does not have the strength to imprison all the thieves; it is simply technically impossible. But it is possible to carry out a campaign, to imprison the most greedy ones, so that others are scared. The main thing is that the process has begun.
      2. +9
        23 May 2024 20: 15
        Is there anyone there who doesn't steal?

        If you take a couple of average analysts and reveal to them the data on the property of those about whom the late Prigozhin said:
        -
        Perfumed like "women"
        Then in a couple of weeks, we’ll have to build a separate colony, General’s.
      3. +1
        23 May 2024 20: 50
        This is the wrong question. It has to be like this - but besides stealing, does anyone know how to do anything else in their profession? I think if the army had been stationed near Lvov, we would not have noticed that someone was living beyond their means. Like, well, they take too much, but they know their stuff.
      4. +1
        23 May 2024 21: 48
        Quote: Good evil
        Quote from sdivt
        Will there even be anyone left there?

        I would formulate the question differently: Is there anyone there who doesn’t steal?

        Menshikov was the first to answer this question to Peter: “We steal everything. If you hang you, you’ll be left alone.”
  6. +2
    23 May 2024 19: 46
    They started the wrong ones.
    Ministry of Western Coverage, Economic Coverage. Governors FZ44, 94. and the entire economic system requires a song instead of blank verse about aunas, everything is fine.
    And who dumps 300 billion dollars offshore?
  7. +2
    23 May 2024 19: 47
    Grinding is underway. They kept taking the generals, but now they just sent the officers. What's next? request
    1. +4
      23 May 2024 19: 54
      The corporals remained there too!
    2. +3
      23 May 2024 20: 24
      Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
      Grinding is underway. They kept taking the generals, but now they just sent the officers.

      Not quite “just an officer”, also a fish from large breeds.
      1. +6
        23 May 2024 20: 34
        Oh, and in the note they wrote that he was an officer! Generals are offended when they are lumped together with officers... laughing
    3. +1
      23 May 2024 20: 51
      Ensigns are next!
      1. +4
        23 May 2024 21: 33
        Quote from alexoff
        Ensigns are next!

        Don't you dare touch the foundation of the army laughing This is a micro lieutenant general, or a micro colonel general! wassat
        1. 0
          23 May 2024 22: 19
          Don't you dare touch the foundation of the army

          This is written by those who do not know the intricacies of the service. For example, how to exchange a “labor” department for a day for paint for the barracks. And in such a way that everyone is satisfied. And the Voentorg base, and the working cadets, and commanders laughing
          1. 0
            23 May 2024 23: 11
            Quote: dauria
            And in such a way that everyone is satisfied. And the Voentorg base, and the working cadets, and commanders

            Wow, everyone is happy! But real lieutenant generals and colonel generals don’t know how to do that. wassat
  8. +10
    23 May 2024 19: 49
    VO is late... Oh well. Akhmetov, who commanded the 20th Army, was also removed. So far, they have just removed it (put it under disposal), but there is hope that this butcher will answer for Ugledar.
    The next one will be Muradov. And then you see the NGSh.
    1. +4
      23 May 2024 19: 56
      Akhmetov into attack aircraft, or at least for logging. Dreams...
      1. +2
        23 May 2024 20: 12
        Yes, it’s easy, he’ll get a prison sentence and leave the zone. The conveyor is working. But I think at the front (in assaults), they won’t see him. Yes, that’s good, otherwise he’ll sit on the 2nd line for six months and with a “clear conscience”...
        These two (Muradov and Akhmetov), ​​for the sake of the next title and position, put people in packs into the ground. And HUNDREDS of equipment were lost.
    2. -2
      23 May 2024 20: 47
      Yeah, it’s too bad that the Wagnerites didn’t reach the Moscow Region....
      1. +6
        23 May 2024 21: 07
        Yeah, it’s too bad that the Wagnerites didn’t reach the Moscow Region....
        Have you ever wondered why they went?
        Or do you - like a kindergartener - believe in honest oligarchs? After 30 years of capitalism?
        They tried to take away his uncontrolled loot from the oligarch - the oligarch was offended and stumbled on the banal arrow. Style a la 90s...
        When they explained to him that the accounts were frozen and the cash was seized, he immediately turned in the opposite direction...
        Or do you naively think that in that stew that he supplied to the army, the meat was coming out of the edges?
        1. -2
          24 May 2024 06: 35
          I think one thing. That many of them should be put up against the wall. For the death of the guys in the Northern Military District.. And the Wagnerites might have been the first firing squad..
          1. 0
            24 May 2024 09: 06
            And the Wagnerites might have been the first firing squad... from historical experience ( and not only ours!!) it is known that the first firing squad is almost immediately executed by another
  9. +1
    23 May 2024 19: 49
    God grant that Belousov be awarded the title of “Captain Obviousness”
    1. +7
      23 May 2024 20: 12
      Quote: Bacha
      God grant that Belousov be awarded the title of “Captain Obviousness”

      If this continues, then Belousov, at first, will not be hindered by a bulletproof vest.
  10. +13
    23 May 2024 19: 55
    Almost haiku:

    Strong wind in a pine forest...
    This hasn't happened in a long time
    Cones fall noisily from the tops...
  11. +6
    23 May 2024 19: 58
    And how could it be possible to go to war with such corruption, theft, nepotism and essentially betrayal among the generals?
    Didn't the Supreme Commander-in-Chief know the state of affairs in the army?
    Or was he deceived again by Shoigu, the FSB and other security services?
    This is no longer Through the Looking Glass, but some kind of animal world. Lampasniks still can’t get enough of it at the state trough.
    And not only them. The top of the vertical power structure has rotted.
    Cosmetics and spot-fixing alone cannot improve the health of the state machine.
    1. -2
      23 May 2024 20: 13
      And what about such corruption, theft, nepotism?

      Who knew that there was less nepotism and corruption in Ukraine? The damned NATO controllers didn’t let things go wild. laughing
    2. +3
      23 May 2024 20: 19
      And how could it be possible to go to war with such corruption, theft, nepotism and essentially betrayal among the generals?

      Do you think how NATO intelligence got a detailed plan for the Gostomel operation long before it began?) We were also very lucky that Zelya turned out to be a short-sighted “warrior”, otherwise it would have been the darkest day in the history of the Airborne Forces and a meat grinder in which no one would have survivedNo.
      1. +2
        23 May 2024 20: 23
        It seems that Putin gave the go-ahead for the arrests of stripers not so much for corruption, but specifically for betrayal.
        Prigozhin shouted about this all over the airwaves, and he was eliminated.
      2. 0
        23 May 2024 21: 52
        Quote: spirit
        Do you think how NATO intelligence got a detailed plan for the Gostomel operation long before it began?

        This cunning plan was published two months before the start of the SVO in all newspapers.
    3. 0
      23 May 2024 21: 01
      Quote: Factor
      And how could it be possible to go to war with such corruption, theft, nepotism and essentially betrayal among the generals?

      Yes, as always, the tops pulled out the shoals from us at the expense of the grassroots performers.
    4. -1
      23 May 2024 21: 10
      Quote: Factor

      Didn't the Supreme Commander-in-Chief know the state of affairs in the army?
      Or was he deceived again by Shoigu, the FSB and other security services?

      Are you familiar with the expression “The retinue makes the king”?
      He doesn’t watch TV, he doesn’t roam around on Telegram and various VOs, how can he know the truth? And the retinue reports in such a way as to remain a retinue.
      1. +3
        23 May 2024 21: 22
        Russian President Putin has the right to confer the rank of general

        All key positions in the state are his nominees and appointees. So he creates a retinue for himself.

        So Putin is turning the retired senior figures into crap.
        1. 0
          23 May 2024 21: 27
          Quote: Factor
          So he creates a retinue for himself.

          Yes, everything you say is correct. But this does not invalidate Machiavelli's observation.
          The instinct of self-preservation forces the retinue to lie in order to remain retinue as long as possible.
  12. +12
    23 May 2024 19: 59
    So, willy-nilly, you will think that Stalin’s methods were correct. After all, loosen the supervision a little, and immediately there will be total theft, embezzlement, betrayal of the Motherland at every turn. Judging by the scale of the arrests, there is no doubt that the reports are only about high-ranking generals and officials, and how many smaller ones are arrested in these cases: colonels and lower ranks. It was not for nothing that Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov said that any quartermaster who has served for more than ten years can be safely shot - you can’t go wrong.

    The transformation of the army into a breeding ground for all evil spirits, for traitors and worthy successors to the work of Judas and Vlasov is a sad and terrible story. While our guys were drowning in blood, and their mothers were mourning the dead, these, excuse me, ghouls, as well as their relatives, were plundering our army, mocking the most sacred. By robbing and stealing, trading in the Motherland, they undermined the trust of many in their own country. And for this, for good reason, they should be shot, like their relatives, koros and other swamp mud.
    1. +5
      23 May 2024 20: 24
      Read the memoirs of German prisoners who worked on our construction sites. You will learn a lot of interesting things about the supposedly absent theft under Stalin. Under any regime, skilled ass-lickers are allowed, if not everything, then a lot.
    2. 0
      23 May 2024 20: 54
      in the conditions of a totalitarian camp system only by Stalinist-Leninist methods. and in conditions of democracy and democracy, other mechanisms work. Unfortunately, in 17, Russia was driven into camp dictatorship and terror.
  13. -5
    23 May 2024 19: 59
    Contrary to earlier statements, we have finally entered the year 37? At this rate, it’s time to build a separate pre-trial detention center for the Moscow Region.
    1. +6
      23 May 2024 20: 27
      A branch of the General Staff is being formed in Lefortovo wink
      1. +5
        23 May 2024 20: 32
        A branch of the General Staff is being formed in Lefortovo

        There is a great lack of "famous wood carver" chess carve wink
        1. +5
          23 May 2024 20: 38
          Too close to the body. They scold such people, they may even shout at them (tete-a-tete), but they don’t put them in prison... request
      2. 0
        23 May 2024 20: 55
        and who will be the commander in chief?
  14. +3
    23 May 2024 19: 59
    It feels like specially appointed “switchmen” are being pulled out over little things.
    Again, for the amount of damage we always assign not the amount of actual losses incurred, i.e. the amount stolen or spent on kickbacks/bribes/dummy contractor companies, etc., but the entire amount of the contract in which the episode occurred.
    It also sounds louder for the press!
    And the contract amount is not too big.
    And it cannot be that those involved in much larger murky schemes and the details of their implementation would not have been known “yesterday.”

    Like “a bone is thrown from the master’s table” to a people yearning for justice and retribution from the rotten elite...
    1. +9
      23 May 2024 20: 31
      Yes, at least this way, not to the point of fat...Which of us could have dreamed of such a thing six months ago? If you mention a change in the Defense Ministry or the National General Staff, all the sneakers in the world are flying at you - “how dare you...”, “horses in the crossing...”, “this is sedition...”. Internet, he writes everything down. And now all Skabeev’s chatterboxes, like the Morozovs, have suddenly “seen the light”... Disgusting...
      1. +5
        23 May 2024 21: 06
        Until the purge reaches the FSB, all this is not serious. More for the amusement of the public, but at least this way...
    2. +2
      23 May 2024 21: 25
      It feels like specially appointed “switchmen” are being pulled out over little things.
      hmmm... Lieutenant General - switchman???
      But ...
  15. +3
    23 May 2024 20: 04
    But I think that we were always told about some samples “that have no analogues in the world”! And this was clear about the scale of the theft of the generals) The top leadership was proud, but for the time being they could not speak out loud about such “unparalleled” generals.
  16. +3
    23 May 2024 20: 14
    It looks like the new Minister of Defense is sorting things out like this wink
    1. +7
      23 May 2024 21: 02
      He would not have had time - it would take several days to delve into such an economy as the Moscow Region. Most likely they gave the go-ahead, permission to plant those characters who had been developed for more than one month (and they wrote about Ivanov for years). It’s still unclear with Popov’s case - maybe Kuzhugetovich’s order was still being processed, or maybe Gerasimov was personally angry with him. But if so, this case will most likely be reversed.
  17. +3
    23 May 2024 20: 18
    An entertaining boss fall in Moscow Region. laughing
    1. +8
      23 May 2024 21: 04
      Yes, in the Arbat district (Moscow Region and General Staff), grab anyone - you can’t go wrong. At lower levels you need to figure it out - honest people sometimes come across there.
  18. +4
    23 May 2024 20: 19
    Eh...I feel like heads are going to fly...to London....
  19. +3
    23 May 2024 20: 26
    And how can we now compensate for the damage that he caused??
  20. +8
    23 May 2024 20: 27
    Theft has always been considered a sin, but in wartime it is treason. Betrayal. The report is finished.
  21. +5
    23 May 2024 20: 27
    Is a “Ministry of Defense in Exile” being formed in Lefortovo? However... feel
  22. +5
    23 May 2024 20: 30
    The people help the Russian army with their own money, and Putin’s generals from the Ministry of Defense, at this time, steal from the same army. But I didn’t see Shoigu, and Putin didn’t know.
    1. 0
      27 May 2024 15: 19
      You won’t be pleased; plantings have started - bad; they haven’t started - also bad. It’s as if they didn’t steal in the army before, before Shoigu and Putin. And when they opened it up and started to really fight, I immediately “didn’t see, didn’t know”...
      1. 0
        27 May 2024 16: 30
        They've stolen before. But to steal when your country is at war is a betrayal of the Motherland. And they opened it not because of theft; others from the vertical of power steal no less, but even more. It’s not corruption here, it stinks of treason a mile away, so we couldn’t turn a blind eye any longer. To gather so many traitors in one ministry, the most significant one today, is undermining the country’s security. Tell me what kind of footage you have, and I will tell you who you are.
  23. +5
    23 May 2024 20: 58
    The landing of the generals of the Defense Ministry and the General Staff is the right thing, there are such Augean stables there that they need to be cleaned and cleaned. But the notorious principle “they cut down the forest and the chips fly” would not have been realized when, for example, Popov became such a chip, more than adequate, especially by the current criteria of the Russian generals. And cunning people will certainly try to spin their schemes on the sly - to free the sought-after position from the occupant, to dump a competitor...
    And most importantly, I will never believe that corrupt officials in the Armed Forces, in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the special services, the FSB, the prosecutor's office, the courts, the Investigative Committee are all exceptionally clean, crystal honest. Again the age-old problem - who will watch the watchmen? But if the cleansing does not reach these departments, and not only at the level of pawns, then everything that is happening is nothing more than a game for the public and a redistribution of spheres of influence.
    1. 0
      27 May 2024 15: 25
      Unfortunately, there will always be “chips”, no matter how you look at them, but this does not mean that cleaning is not necessary. These are costs. It has never been clean and smooth before (remember Stalin’s purges), and it is not now and will not be in the future, it is impossible. Just as there are no state leaders who never make mistakes, there has not been one in the entire history of Russia.
  24. +4
    23 May 2024 21: 31
    A high-ranking officer of the Ministry of Defense Department for State Defense Procurement was detained in Moscow

    Well, the Ministry of Defense has started to fall, and as you can see, the rear rats from the “peaceful” ministries and departments will get their hands on it.
    It's high time to look at the engines of inflation and corruption.
  25. +1
    23 May 2024 21: 43
    “The Supreme Court sent to Balashikha the case of two Investigative Committee investigators accused of receiving a record bribe of more than 2,7 thousand bitcoins”
    1 cue ball now is more than 6 million rubles. I hope these are not the people who will conduct the investigation?
  26. +3
    23 May 2024 22: 14
    Thieves for theft on an especially large scale must be shot.
    And dispossess ALL relatives.
    So that the surviving thieves who are not caught know that they will die, and their relatives will not only not inherit what they stole, but will also lose their blood!
    Look, they will stop stealing.
  27. 0
    23 May 2024 22: 20
    Quote: German Titov
    In the army - in any position, there is something to steal. Unfortunately. It is possible without theft. Example: Our "ensign" exchanged canned "mackerel with added oil" in a trash bin in Afghanistan with the same ensign for "mackerel in tomato." It seems that the soldiers were not “loved”, but what would an ensign do without benefit? I didn’t even understand what the secret was. Both were written off. After six months of "mackerel with added oil", "mackerel in tomato" was considered "red fish".


    This is bullshit... we had to buy uniforms with our own, and on business trips 1 dry ration for two, as the rest was sold by the company commander at the market. I am already silent about the fuel that was poured into fuel tankers at night and sent to city gas stations.
    In general, the unit had double accounting, which was maintained by the relatives of the unit commander.
  28. 0
    23 May 2024 22: 33
    Apparently there are not enough investigators, so they take turns, otherwise it would be possible to have the entire management team in one day.
  29. -1
    23 May 2024 22: 39
    It looks like campaigning, despite Peskov’s statement today. One can expect that they will begin to further label the detainees as failures in the SVO. If you dig deep, you can even get a tram conductor involved for something. (We don’t count Timur Ivanov - that’s different good )
  30. +1
    24 May 2024 07: 27
    If you look at how Russian generals fight and how they steal, you begin to think that at the academy they are taught not strategy and tactics, but how to fill their pockets
  31. +1
    24 May 2024 07: 36
    There was a conspiracy by Tukhachevsky, now there is such a conspiracy. Then people were accused of espionage so that the people would understand, and now they are accused of embezzlement and bribes for the same reason.
  32. 0
    24 May 2024 17: 44
    It is necessary to distinguish between parquet and combat generals. Plant the parquet soldiers, confiscate what was stolen from the combatants, forgive them and go back to war. If incompetent - with a demotion. Let him repent, return what he stole, and you give him an amnesty, so that even after the war no one can get hold of him.
    An officer and a general at the front can die any day. Service on the front line is worse than any term, and you start business with them. Demote him in rank, if necessary, and go into battle. The Wagnerites were released after the verdict. Grant amnesty to generals who have committed crimes before sentencing, subject to active repentance. What is the difference?!
    Likewise for those under investigation. They want to fight: let them open up and fight.
    .
    But parquet - to the nail
  33. 0
    26 May 2024 11: 44
    Yes, it’s unlikely that corruption is the only reason!
    There are too many traitors in the Ministry of Defense!
  34. 0
    27 May 2024 18: 57
    When Misha came to power in Georgia in the early 2000s, the first thing he did was disband the cops completely, because everything there was rotten through and through. There were no cops in the country for 2 months. During this time, they recruited new ones and gave them a good salary. about 2 thousand in dollar terms. The main requirement was the absence of previous experience in the police.
    Maybe we can learn something smart from our Georgian brothers?