Breaking what is set up during the “riot of democracy.” The army must become complete

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Breaking what is set up during the “riot of democracy.” The army must become complete

The topic that I would like to raise today will be somewhat unexpected for many. I want to talk about... a future war. Not about the SVO, but specifically about the one that is possible sometime in the future. I understand that this is not the right time, but I believe that the material is extremely relevant at the present time.

When a new Minister of Defense is appointed, a “new broom”, whose eyes are not yet “blurred” by the army routine, and for whom, in my opinion, it will be much easier to implement what we are increasingly thinking about.



I often talk with retirees who in conversation mention the military schools where they studied at one time with the bitter “additive” “it is now disbanded.” The problem of liquidating higher educational institutions has been voiced for a long time. What they just didn’t say or write about this.

Remember one of the main arguments of supporters of reducing the number of higher education institutions? We train a lieutenant for four to six years, spend public funds, and he serves his first contract and goes into the national economy. The company commander, captain, leaves. So why do we need to “work for the national economy”? For this there are civil institutions, universities, academies...

What care about the state. budget. No one then listened to the opinions of the officers on this issue. Then, in the opinion of the country’s leadership, we became part of a “friendly family of states”, where everyone cares about everyone and loves each other. What kind of war can we even talk about among friends...

But you should have listened! Yes, many lieutenants, and after five years captains, left for more “lucrative jobs” in civilian organizations. They left not because they didn’t like the army, they left because they saw no prospects for the future. No salaries, no apartments and service somewhere in the darkness, families were falling apart and so on.

But it so happened that the state needed not only an army, but also an army reserve. And this is where it turned out that those same lieutenants and captains were very useful in the Northern Military District zone. When deploying units and formations, not only privates and sergeants were needed, but also platoon, company and even battalion and regiment commanders.

And those same officers who were transferred to the reserve went to these positions. This is the trained reserve of the regular army. Minimal training, familiarization with new weapons and equipment - that’s all. This is especially noticeable among specialists - artillerymen, tank crews, sappers and others.

And at the same time, everyone knows perfectly well that it is platoon and company commanders who are the most vulnerable among all officers in war. They are always close to the fighters, in the thick of things. Always under the gun of enemy snipers, grenade launchers, operators drones and others. There is probably no unit or formation in the war where there are no vacant positions for a platoon or company commander...

There are not enough officers on the front line and in the rear


I remembered the conversation between newly elected President Putin and formation commanders immediately after the inauguration. Particularly memorable was the short speech of Major General Oleg Vlasov, commander of the Sevastopol 810th Separate Guards Order of Zhukov Marine Brigade of the Black Sea fleet.

Seems like a simple question. The brigade, which entered the battle with a strength of 2441 people, grew to 11 personnel, and even received completely new units and units under its command. Can you imagine the burden on the command of the brigade, under whose command 365 (!) new units and subunits appeared during participation in the Northern Military District?

It's like, what's the problem? Rename the brigade into a division - and that’s it. Moreover, it performs tasks on a divisional scale. But it was not there. This is another level of connection. This is a completely different personnel structure. You can even rename it to the army, but who will control this army? Officers are needed, including for the management bodies of the new division.

But they are not there! There are no trained junior and senior officers in the Defense Ministry reserve! Which, in principle, is what Putin said in his answer. No, but they will. They will be when they graduate from high schools, that is, in a few years. But General Vlasov does not have these years in reserve. He needs officers now! Competent, trained and knowledgeable officers about equipment and weapons.

It is clear that some part of the required quantity can be filled with “locally grown” commanders. Platoon, company and even battalion commanders. But even in this case, they must be sent for training. Even a genius needs knowledge. Commanders, especially from among the former corps of the Lugansk and Donetsk republics, were promoted due to personal courage and leadership qualities.

Another problem that has been visible for a long time, but for some reason is also hushed up, is tank crews, artillerymen and drone operators. That is, those who now, at this point in time, play the most important role in the destruction of the enemy’s fortifications and manpower. There are simply critical shortages of such specialists. Is it right if a specialist is already trained in the army?

I sincerely admire the heroes that the media talks about. But it hurts for the army when suddenly a correspondent, talking, for example, about the commander of a camera unit, broadcasts the following phrase: “But just recently, before mobilization, the commander was a simple taxi driver (salesman, businessman, etc.)" The commander of a unit without military education...

А aviation? How many military pilot schools do we have left? How many specialists do they graduate per year? Again, savings, due to which military pilots practically do not leave the battlefield. We talk a lot about the resource of technology, but what about the resource of people? We somehow keep quiet about him.

Moreover, I quite often see materials from LBS in which, perhaps without even realizing it, journalists talk about some soldier or officer as a combat robot. It seems that for this hero, war is life. The rest, like family, children, an apartment in a cozy town, etc., is secondary.

Remember how in the Soviet army there were areas where service life was limited? He served - and forward to a garrison more suitable for life. And this is not in war, but in ordinary military service in peacetime! The commanders understood that man is not a machine. It must be protected.

Well, one last thing. Why do commanders have to constantly come up with something to win? I’m talking about the “tsar-barbecue” again... There have always been entire institutes and special design bureaus for this work. There were military scientists sitting there who knew about the problem many times more than any non-professional and quickly solved the problems. Any military academy had faculties where these scientists were trained.

We need to decide, not come up with “surrogates”


We have fully experienced many of the shortcomings of our military reform. Starting with, to put it mildly, the not very good work of the MOVU bodies during partial mobilization and, I hope, ending with the destruction of the system of military education and training of mobilization resources.

Perhaps I am somewhat idealizing the Soviet system of preparing the army and the country for a possible war. Perhaps this is due to the common human tendency to idealize the past, comparing it with the present, but I do not call for restoring the system in its previous form. The system needs to be modernized, modernized, if you like.

There is clearly no way to get by with half measures. Any surrogates, temporary solutions for the period of SVO, etc. will not solve the problem. We understand perfectly well that for Russia what is temporary is the most long-lasting. We’ll build some kind of temporary barracks “for a while” and remember about it only when a whole city is built around it...

It is clear that all this requires money. Much money. Somewhere you will have to “shrink” and moderate your appetites. But I do not call for acting on the principle of everything at once. It is necessary to decide what needs to be done first, what second, etc. And determine the deadlines for completion. Without unnecessary conversations and discussions.

Judging by the events taking place in the Moscow Region, the new minister has been given carte blanche to restore order in the army. We need to point it out. Not only to drag corrupt officials into the light of day, but also to destroy and rebuild what has been heaped up over the years of “the riot of democracy.”

We must be confident that the Department of Defense can truly defend us. And this will not be done in the same way as during partial mobilization...
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  1. +30
    20 May 2024 04: 43
    No one then listened to the opinions of the officers on this issue. Then, in the opinion of the country’s leadership, we became part of a “friendly family of states”, where everyone cares about everyone and loves each other. What kind of war can we even talk about among friends...


    Tolerance and pacifism are good only as long as the delightfully beautiful intelligent beings surrounding our people sit at home and do not lay claim to our territory, worldview, mineral resources, wealth, power, and so on. We can love everyone as long as they do not violate the state border of our Motherland. But as soon as they violated it, they were already enemies who were subject to immediate destruction.
    Unfortunately, the thesis that only those who are unable to conduct a dialogue resort to fighting is, in fact, nothing more than profanity. History shows that in fact they start dialogue only when they are unable to achieve their goal by force. Taking something from a weak person is much easier than convincing him to part with something you need voluntarily. As a result, even the most peace-loving races must be armed to the teeth and very dangerous, otherwise they can die before it comes to the negotiating table.
    1. +27
      20 May 2024 08: 37
      Quote: kreck
      We can love everyone as long as they do not violate the state border of our Motherland. But as soon as they violated it, they were already enemies who were subject to immediate destruction.

      All this is good and correct! But the question arises... Where do you draw the borders of our Motherland? Just wondering when NATO, expanding, crossed these boundaries? When was the GDR absorbed? Poland with Hungary and Bulgaria? Montenegro? Baltic states? Or maybe when he was going to absorb Georgia and Ukraine? You paint such a blissful picture - we are so white and fluffy, we don’t bother anyone until they cross our border. So, in fact, no one crossed our borders either in 2008 or 2022! That's bad luck... wassat
      The interests of the state, including the Russian Federation, lie far beyond its own borders! While the USSR was resolving issues, including by military force, outside its borders - in Afghanistan, Angola, Nicaragua, Vietnam... Everything was calm inside the country. As soon as I stopped, the war came inside the country!
      1. +3
        20 May 2024 10: 55
        (c) "But we will still reach Al-Qatras,
        But we will still fall in battles,
        To from Venus to Mars
        My homeland is spread out..."
        1. -1
          20 May 2024 15: 09
          Quote: Quzmi4
          To from Venus to Mars
          My homeland is spread out..."

          Is Ukraine over the top?
      2. +21
        20 May 2024 11: 04
        Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
        While the USSR was resolving issues.....As soon as it stopped, the war came inside the country!

        “The USSR stopped” - it’s like a polite explanation of the fact that we betrayed our allies under the Warsaw Pact and pooped our USSR instead of curbing our thieves and traitors....?
        The author talks about an “unexpected topic,” which is strange. Like when ostriches start to take their heads out of the sand and see the “unexpected”.....

        For many, this was all quite expected 30 years ago, but they were not listened to and they were laughed at. And whoever “emerged”, for some reason quickly went to another world. For example, like General Rokhlin, who was allegedly killed by his wife, or like Deputy Ilyukhin......

        And today it suddenly turns out that it’s not funny. Wow ! laughing In my opinion, this is a sign of ordinary general foolishness, some kind of mental inferiority. This is the main thing, and everything else that the author told about is secondary.
        1. +10
          20 May 2024 14: 14
          Quote: ivan2022
          “The USSR stopped” - it’s like a polite explanation of the fact that we betrayed our allies under the Warsaw Pact and pooped our USSR instead of curbing our thieves and traitors....?

          Agree! They betrayed Honecker, Najibullah, and many others... The only question is, who are “WE”? I personally, in the late USSR, could not do this due to my age. I don’t think you betrayed anyone either. And which thieves and traitors should be curbed? If the leadership of the CPSU itself, since 1954, has decomposed and become bourgeoisified to such an extent that it decided to privatize the Country and become the Owners, real, capitalist ones! Remove the "living corpses" from the Politburo and all those remaining will be thieves and traitors! With very rare exceptions! The State Emergency Committee is the last attempt to stop the creeping bourgeois counter-revolution and the collapse of the Country. Naturally it failed, because firstly it was too late and secondly the GKChP members themselves, as individuals, were so-so...
          Quote: ivan2022
          For many, this was all quite expected 30 years ago, but they were not listened to and they were laughed at. And whoever “emerged”, for some reason quickly went to another world. For example, like General Rokhlin, who was allegedly killed by his wife, or like Deputy Ilyukhin......

          I don’t know how many people you are writing about. I saw a few people whom everyone treated as marginalized and a huge mass of the rest of the people who, in a single impulse, joyfully rode even cooler than the idiots on the Maidan!
          1. +14
            20 May 2024 15: 02
            [quote=AllX_VahhaB] If the leadership of the CPSU itself, since 1954, has decomposed and become bourgeois...... [/b]
            It couldn't itself decompose because all positions in the CPSU were elected and accountable. It decayed because our society turned out to be defenseless against thieves and traitors. They are everywhere in the world, but not everywhere thieves and traitors turn out to be the ruling class. Perhaps somewhere in Africa.... M. Delyagin formulated correctly: “An atypical state was created - a machine for plundering the country.”

            [quote=AllX_VahhaB]I don’t know how many people you are writing about. I saw a few whom everyone treated as marginalized and a huge mass of the rest of the people who, in a single impulse, joyfully jumped even more abruptly than the Ukrainians on the Maidan![/quote]

            Heh...heh....many enough so that no one today would say that “we knew nothing” and would not be surprised as the author of the article. YOU KNEW EVERYTHING!.. I remember how they pointed fingers and laughed at me and my comrades during protests. I remember the people’s deputies who defended the White House in Moscow in October 1993,... A familiar Russian folk song; “Nothing depends on us and it’s better to sit on the couch.... The deputies are bad.... "...

            No, the deputies are normal, they remember October 1993 and now wisely receive their salaries, watch on TV how the children and grandchildren of the “observers” of October 1993 die. Everything is logical, but what did you want? There are no more people willing to suffer for the people and there are no fools. laughing

            I remember the 90s, when collectives voted for privatization. And then they received a well-deserved kick in the ass and - gop-gop to the street! .

            It is not the leadership that has decayed. The people have decomposed. Only, unlike the leadership, the people have their own....... they have and will still have to sip in full measure. The Bible (Deuteronomy chapter 28) says so: “You will be a terror and a byword and a laughing stock among all nations.” In my opinion this is fair. But the author of the article does not think about such things. He continues, like most of his compatriots, to pretend, according to the old Russian tradition, that he is a wretched man who “didn’t know and didn’t understand, but suddenly “saw the unexpected.” Stop pretending... God can’t be deceived. He will reward him according to his deserts.
          2. +1
            20 May 2024 18: 29
            We didn’t jump as moronic as the Ukrainians!!!! But they believed in a happy life according to the Western “shit democracy” no less than the galloping Maidan people. Sobering up came quickly. enterprises went bankrupt, salaries were not paid, they were detained in the army for periods ranging from 2 weeks to a month (personal memories). How does an officer feed his family? a monument should be erected to those senior officers and scientists who saved the army and the military-industrial complex of Russia from complete collapse.
            1. 0
              20 May 2024 21: 00
              There is no need to compare the Khokhlyatsky galloping and the expectations of a large part of our people - Russia did not have an example, and the Outskirts could already analyze past events in our country and, at least, understand what the state would come to, which bought into the “Bush legs”, and in in their case - for Nuland cookies.
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          3. +2
            20 May 2024 23: 10
            I agree with you. Honecker and Najibullah are the first persons. And how many were betrayed by lower ranks? For example, they did not give political asylum to Markus Wolf, the head of the Stasi. By the way, the West Germans put Honecker, as if mocking him, in the same cell in which he sat under the Nazis. After the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan, Najibullah only asked - help with fuel and food and we will hold out, remaining your allies. They didn't help. But Najibullah still held out for another three years without our help. And Cuba? How suddenly we stopped helping her...
        2. +5
          20 May 2024 22: 01
          Both to the author of the article and to you. In Moscow at the end of 1989, the 1st All-Army Meeting of Representatives of Officers' Assemblies took place. All delegates are elected from the units. All the officers recognized the critical state in the army, and no matter how they shut their mouths, they accepted an appeal to the leadership of the Armed Forces and the General Staff of the USSR Armed Forces demanding the development of reforms and transformations in the army as soon as possible... One of the reasons is the separation of the generals from the mass of officers... Army The majority were healthy, but the generals fell to the side... All decisions of this Assembly were falsified and erased and replaced with lies, and this is 1989. The army leadership silently watched the collapse of the USSR. The collapse of the army is one of the main reasons for the collapse of the USSR. The generals basically sold out and were in liberoid positions. Become enlightened... We urgently need to revive the institution of officer meetings in the Russian Armed Forces...
          1. 0
            24 May 2024 22: 52
            Vitov.(Okko077).20 May 2024 22:01. yours- "...Everything the officers admitted critical state in the army, and how they didn’t shut their mouths adopted an appeal to the leadership of the Armed Forces and the General Staff of the USSR Armed Forces demanding the development of reforms and transformations in the army as soon as possible...One of the reasons is the separation of the generals from the mass of officers...Army was mostly healthy , the generals fell off to the side.. ...Necessary urgently revive the institution of officer meetings in the Russian Armed Forces...."
            You're right. but not only on the issue of officer meetings. recourse ... although this is CLASSIC FEEDBACK. Increasing efficiency, including in the army.. feel How the military and military equipment was improved in the USSR Armed Forces based on proposals from the troops and the work of representatives of the military-industrial complex in the troops.
            The issue of officer personnel was “successfully failed” in the era of the “saints” of the 90s and not only (disbandment of personnel units
            and military schools.
            bully fool What they could then try to return...
            But now the question is the possibility of solving the personnel “hunger” of the platoon-company link. Urgently REMEMBER the experience of the Second World War, accelerated courses for platoon commanders (juniors) for proven soldiers and sergeants in the database... For now, reformation. vacation. treatment for those fit to continue serving. good
            It's faster and more efficient. than to wait at least 4 years. Next you can
            higher education to think through. Now the main thing is TIME and “PERSONNEL - which, as always, DECIDE EVERYTHING!” fellow
            That. on the topic you can remember that "...THE WALKING WILL MAKE THE ROAD!" soldier
            We need to act and resolve emerging issues.
            Moreover, think about those. who is in reserve and also start the preparation process
            mobile resources frame...
            feel
          2. +1
            25 May 2024 10: 00
            I support it. I wrote about this last year, when the supposed rebellion of “Wagner” happened and Prigozhin, in response to the betrayal of a number of generals (now we are starting to find out which ones), “went” to Moscow to seek justice not only for his soldiers, but also for the warring Russian army. The officers' assembly is the highest body of self-government, an indicator of the level of culture of the people and self-organization in moments of threat to the country and people.
            1. 0
              27 June 2024 22: 34
              Enough myths about that “march of justice”. It was the most natural rebellion with the aim of seizing power. And no one betrayed anyone there and no one bombed anyone’s camp.
      3. 0
        27 May 2024 14: 51
        “While the USSR was resolving issues, including by military force, outside its borders - in Afghanistan, Angola, Nicaragua, Vietnam... Everything was calm inside the country. As soon as it stopped, the war came inside the country!”
        GOLD WORDS! This is the huge mistake of our leaders. Look how the region and overseas are doing in Ukraine what you wrote about.
      4. 0
        14 June 2024 10: 58
        You are right, the same Yankees have bases and support many armies of the world just so that everything is calm for them with their way of life, and we fell for Hollywood.. Behind Gorbaty and Ebn.. And where is democracy, and where are we? In the same place...I'll tell you
    2. -1
      20 May 2024 13: 35
      An excellent slogan...to redo or redistribute everything
    3. +3
      20 May 2024 16: 19
      "Tolerance and pacifism are good only as long as the delightfully beautiful intelligent beings surrounding our people sit at home, ..."
      ************************************************** *************
      Yes, the fact of the matter is that the “leaders” of the country, during the collapse of the USSR and the active post-Soviet collapse, have no “tolerance and pacifism” regarding the history of THEIR OWN country, first of all, its Soviet period, its achievements and advantages, armed I never had any strength.

      A real, aggressive and total war of destruction was waged against everything mentioned above. Just as aggressively and uncompromisingly, the so-called garbage was implanted into the public (national) consciousness. "universal" or "universal values". IP, it was precisely the inculcation of these “values”, with the discarding of one’s own historical and civilizational experience (supposedly “erroneous”, almost from the time of Ivan the Terrible) that was declared “tolerance”...

      I believe the new Ministry of Defense will solve the task of integrating the “economy of the Russian defense industry” into the general outline of the country’s economy. But for the irreversible reconstruction of full-fledged armed forces, and their development and compliance with the level of current and predictable threats, this alone is not enough...

      To do this, it is still necessary to solve the problem of irreversibly recreating and maintaining the DEFENSE CONSCIOUSNESS OF THE WHOLE POPULATION OF THE COUNTRY. But this is no longer the task of the new Ministry of Defense...
    4. 0
      24 May 2024 09: 58
      while the delightfully beautiful intelligent creatures surrounding our people sit at home, and do not lay claim to our territory, worldview, mineral resources, wealth, power, and so on
      ----------------------------------
      Wow, you started talking about the Kremlin kleptocracy...
    5. 0
      25 May 2024 20: 49
      ...UNFORTUNATELY, the marked team was convinced that NATO would not expand to the East, without using blows to the face, liver, kidneys and genitals....
      ...IT'S A PITY! It wouldn't be so offensive...
  2. +7
    20 May 2024 04: 44
    Save the army again. What about the Ministry of Defense? All actions have been correct for 35 years. Whoever dares to accuse the ministers, starting with Pavel Grachev, will go to work at the Christmas tree center as a tour guide. There are never too many jokes. And there will be no action.
    As the saying goes: an army prepares for war or fights. This is in the USSR. Now - to peace. This is in vain.
    Don't tear the veins.
    Oak tree.
    Rose is a flower.....
  3. +21
    20 May 2024 04: 47
    To be honest, I expected something more... The conversation turned out to be short... But, in essence, the thoughts are correct... good
    You can at least rename it to the army, and who will control this army? Officers are needed, including for the management bodies of the new division.

    The army is a structure where a person appointed from above, with no experience or merit, stands out like a black sheep. This is the whole essence of our “shabby” life. They have adopted a fashion (apparently they liked it after a quarter of a century of irresponsible governance of the country) of placing “their own” and the “needed” in the highest positions. But we need state-owned, professionally trained specialists who have real results in their work in their previous place...Building and producing, for example, is not the same as collecting taxes (rip off, taxing people). Being a commander in the troops is not like driving a Kremlin regiment around the parade ground...
  4. +25
    20 May 2024 04: 51
    The king’s friends created this mess and continue to do so, he doesn’t abandon his own people, they will restore order when it’s like in China, otherwise everything will continue or he didn’t know what was going on in the army and the country and don’t say the king is good, the boyars are bad, they’re rotting, you know where
    1. +27
      20 May 2024 06: 13
      Totally agree with you.
      The army was being destroyed, military schools, border troops, the navy, the military-industrial complex, etc. were liquidated. under the direct leadership of the guarantor of the constitution.
      All this happens under his direct orders.
      1. -3
        20 May 2024 09: 10
        Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
        All this happens under his direct orders.

        Yes, no one argues with this. But the order is not given, in this case, by voice. An order is a piece of paper signed by the Supreme Commander. Who wrote this piece of paper, how did he determine the need for this or that solution? And, I’m sure, everything in that piece of paper was logical, supported by numbers and examples. And more than a dozen such pieces of paper fall on his desk (my guess). And he has to delve into all this? Those. Do not trust the compilers of these pieces of paper. Then why keep them? Delve into all the issues yourself and only then sign the papers. Is it possible? Should one person quickly sort out an urgent issue? And there are more than a dozen questions. Is he a genius? And here what comes to the fore is not the question of delving into everything yourself, but the ability to understand people. To understand a person, you need to eat more than one pound of salt with him (folk wisdom).
        In a word, it is easy to blame the Supreme for everything, but this does not solve the problem.
        Shots solve everything!
        1. kvv
          +4
          20 May 2024 10: 08
          Well, if he doesn’t have to delve into everything, then it will be like now as a wedding general - speaking from the stands, pulling switches and pressing buttons, telling children about his mothers and grandmothers, etc., then of course he simply doesn’t physically have time for paperwork will be enough
          1. +3
            20 May 2024 12: 33
            Quote: kvv
            Well, if he doesn’t have to delve into everything,

            Of course it is necessary. Then why keep a host of assistants, consultants, and generals? All by myself. He posed the question himself, collected the information himself, figured it out himself and made the decision himself. Grace. I wonder, have you ever managed a team of at least 2000 people? Which perform completely different tasks. I'm sure you haven't even thought about it.
            You can't even understand what it means to "get into everything"
            I would like to see you, so capable - both a Swede and a reaper and a player of the pipe.
            1. kvv
              +2
              20 May 2024 12: 55
              With your comment you immediately answered your own question, it’s immediately clear that you studied poorly and have no idea how the decision-making process works, about 2000 subordinates, I can only sympathize with them if they are led by people like you
              1. -1
                20 May 2024 13: 11
                Quote: kvv
                you have no idea how the decision-making process goes,

                Well why? After all, you explained to me that I must figure everything out myself before putting my signature. That's the whole process.
        2. +6
          20 May 2024 10: 46
          In a word, it’s easy to blame the Supreme for everything

          Yes, you are asking the wrong question. Here you need to ask, “Is he really Supreme?” If you personally, having seized factories, newspapers, and ships under Yeltsin, while strangling a bunch of others like them, at the end of Yeltsin’s reign, would you really have given your future (a position acquired through back-breaking labor) into the hands of someone? Probably, having agreed with the rest of the pack of the same, they would have chosen a convenient manager and taken care of a strict collar and muzzle.
          Just don’t give examples of Bereza, Gusinsky, Khodor - it was not Putin who “demoted” them, but the “Big Bradlam” of the fattest cats at the round table. How stupid adventurers were simply thrown out of their ranks.
        3. +4
          20 May 2024 12: 10
          Yes, here it is obvious to everyone that no matter how you look at it, VVP himself served and understands perfectly well that military guys are friendly, study and work together, and therefore you cannot allow the military-power bloc to be strong, otherwise you will quickly find yourself on the bunk. That is why under him there was not a single professional military man in the post of defense minister (Ivanov was trusted from Gebnya, Sergeev was appointed under Yeltsin).
        4. +1
          21 May 2024 10: 52
          But you don’t have your own head, even to make a decision on a super-strategic issue? There is time to discuss who to give a dog to, but there is no time to destroy the army or not? Or is it something else? Fulfilling the order set by the owners, continuing the policy of fighting the drunkard.
  5. +12
    20 May 2024 05: 26
    Quote: antivirus
    There are never too many jokes.

    How is it? Destroy what was built during the “rage of democracy”! Our country's leadership has remained unchanged for a quarter of a century. So this is the riot of democracy? So drive them all away!
    And how much we spent on the army, will we also chalk it up to violence - the trillions have disappeared? Or Ivanov alone will answer for everyone. All the money will be “pinned” on him wassat hi
    1. +20
      20 May 2024 05: 46
      This leadership will tell you that all these years they thought that they would be taken to Europe. There will be no need for a large army. But as always, they were deceived.
  6. +31
    20 May 2024 05: 36
    It has not yet been said that it was not the worst captains who left. Because negative selection works in the vertical. Officers with a useful set of qualities do not reach the rank of general.
    1. +13
      20 May 2024 07: 22
      ...Because negative selection works in the vertical. Officers with a useful set of qualities do not reach the rank of general...


      +100. Top ten.

      The army is part of our today's society. All the vices characteristic of the civilian environment are also inherent in the Army.
      And is it really a vice today that in any way you have to, not to earn money, but to “raise money” or “cut down greenery”. This is considered success.

      I often listen to the program “Iron Logic” on Vesti FM with the participation of S.A. Mikheeva.
      Mikheev heads the Foundation, which provides assistance to SVO soldiers.
      I present a monologue close to the original.
      S.A. Mikheev:
      “We receive many different requests to leave this or that equipment, things, etc. for the fighters.
      We ask you to submit your application in writing in all forms: TO WHOM, WHERE, HOW MUCH, etc.
      The person asking refuses this because the “chief” reported that they don’t need anything..."

      For thirty years they raised “new” people, developed and cultivated not the best qualities.
      We need “commissars in dusty helmets” (c) in units. But just where to get them. Maybe aliens from the planet Nibiru will help...
    2. +4
      20 May 2024 13: 58
      ... and the paradox of the article is that cool captains must be trained under the command of worthless generals. The actions of which the generals, of course, will not ruin in the bud and will not expel them somewhere to Africa or to become guards
  7. +3
    20 May 2024 05: 42
    Let's see, maybe the new minister will change something.
    1. kvv
      +7
      20 May 2024 10: 11
      in order to change something it is necessary to change the entire system of power and not only in the Moscow Region, but one in the field is not a warrior
  8. +35
    20 May 2024 05: 57
    You know this as a joke: It’s great to work in the fire department, but if there’s a fire, at least quit... A lot of people ended up in the army who shouldn’t have gotten there. There were good salaries, benefits, a preferential mortgage, but after the war they started quitting. As for the prospects, you know, I worked in one agency for almost 8 years, but I am a civilian specialist, and often crossed paths with various security officials in joint work. Here we are going on a raid to catch criminals, we all take the same risk, but the security forces have a salary 2,5 times higher, everyone has expensive cars, apartments, and I get to the meeting place in an old Japanese car from the 90s. Not only am I running ahead of everyone, otherwise we won’t catch anyone, but also without a weapon and body armor (civilian, not allowed), they detained me, the security forces start smoking, and I begin the main work, filming everything, documenting it, and so on, and on There are even fewer prospects for the civil service, and you write here, poor unfortunates..... But that summer, two hefty foreheads persuaded me to take a contract, go, they say, you’ve already lived, have pity on the young people, your health is not very good, they won’t send you to the front line. .... Therefore, you know the right things, write, but I’m afraid that everything will go through one place, they will change the signs and that’s it, we really lack love and respect for each other among the people, but only when it appears we will get a strong army, when people will go not for money and benefits, but because it is an honor to serve and protect. Then respect for the profession will rise significantly.....
    1. +5
      20 May 2024 06: 45
      "...but like fire, at least quit..."

      During partial mobilization, it was necessary to call up those who resigned. And now it’s not too late. And also former prisoners who quit after a six-month contract. And those “non-military people” who were mobilized during partial mobilization, who never dreamed of early retirement from the military, will be given the opportunity to demobilize. Or get them interested.
    2. +1
      20 May 2024 08: 49
      Let me guess, are you an expert (technician, criminologist)? And as part of the SOG, do you go to the scene of the incident? If so, then it’s quite strange that an expert is running to catch a swindler, and even ahead of the security forces
    3. +4
      20 May 2024 09: 01
      And why were you, a civilian specialist, so scared that you took part in catching intruders, and even ran ahead of everyone?
      1. +2
        20 May 2024 09: 20
        Quote from AdAstra
        And why were you, a civilian specialist, so scared that you took part in catching intruders, and even ran ahead of everyone?

        There are such specialties, see my comment below. And the risks there are actually quite significant.
    4. +2
      20 May 2024 09: 12
      Quote from turembo
      As for the prospects, you know, I worked in one agency for almost 8 years, but I am a civilian specialist, and often crossed paths with various security officials in joint work. Here we are going on a raid to catch intruders, we all take the same risk... ...Not only am I running ahead of everyone, otherwise we won’t catch anyone, but also without weapons and body armor (civilian, not allowed), they detained me, the security forces start smoke, and I start the main work, film everything, design it, and so on

      Did you hunt? laughing
      1. +2
        20 May 2024 11: 40
        Practically), really related to environmental activities
        1. +3
          20 May 2024 13: 15
          Quote from turembo
          Practically), really related to environmental activities

          Well, yes, at least hunting inspectors are allowed long-barreled weapons for raids. But foresters are against breakers only with the “power of the word of the law.” And is it true that in the deep forest, what can “dashing” people oppose them against this? laughing
  9. +11
    20 May 2024 06: 01
    Breaking is not building... and then it turns out that building is very different from breaking!
    1. +1
      20 May 2024 11: 18
      Quote: rocket757
      Breaking is not building... and then it turns out that building is very different from breaking!

      And then it turns out that it is necessary to build in a new way, that this new one is radically different from the broken old one, and the appointed builders have no idea how this old mechanism worked...
      1. +2
        20 May 2024 11: 30
        Problems, difficulties that those people who exist will have to overcome now, and not wait for someone to come explain and teach!
        This is the only way, other options... are there other options?
        1. +2
          20 May 2024 11: 40
          To begin with, it will be enough to shake up the entire structure and choose between the purpose of the army: serve and protect or imitate activities and steal; learn military science in a real way or throw away energy and resources for show...
          I was leaving the army at the time when the EBN made it so that officers came to duty in civilian clothes. It's time to restore respect for the army by eliminating functions that are unusual for it.
          1. +2
            20 May 2024 11: 50
            It doesn't always work out the way we want.
            Also, if not the most important thing, then important, important... And who are the judges?
            Now our great future is being forged at the forefront, in all respects! Personnel, equipment and, of course, OO, which will make changes to the textbooks that will need to be used to teach new commanders...
            It always was, is and will be...
            By the way, they will resist this... it has always been so.
            In general, the process is complex and who knows what will happen in the end.
  10. BAI
    +2
    20 May 2024 06: 06


    It is clear that all this requires money. Much money.

    For war you need only 3 things: money, money and more money.
    That's why a new minister was appointed. Shoigu can only lead under conditions of unlimited funding
    1. +9
      20 May 2024 07: 06
      For war you need only 3 things: money, money and more money.

      Those who say that only money is needed for war do not understand what they are talking about. You can buy the most advanced weapons, hire the most desperate fighters, but if you do not have your own people ready to die for your ideals, then all this will cost a small coin.
      It's one thing to fight for a future for yourself and your children. Let blood be shed, but they will live better. And it’s completely different when you have to shed your own blood for masters with dual citizenship. The only thing worse than a civil war is the genocide of innocents. Especially if, in fact, strangers are destroying the country at the hands of its own inhabitants.
      1. +11
        20 May 2024 08: 03
        Right. Money can't buy patriotism. Homeland begins with a picture in your primer. And education itself has been destroyed since the turbulent 90s. They instilled the psychology of consumerism and cosmopolitanism. Hence the concept of being a citizen of the world, and not of one’s own country.
        1. -1
          20 May 2024 10: 38
          Quote: Glock-17
          Right. Money can't buy patriotism. Homeland begins with a picture in your primer. And education itself has been destroyed since the turbulent 90s. They instilled the psychology of consumerism and cosmopolitanism. Hence the concept of being a citizen of the world, and not of one’s own country.

          How can you buy it? Propaganda, education, etc. costs a lot of money. Play videos, hang posters, organize lessons, make films, etc., etc., etc.
      2. +4
        20 May 2024 10: 24
        Have you ever thought about the meaning of the expression “war requires money, money and more money”?
        If for you it all comes down to buying weapons and hiring specialists... well, you have some childish ideas about the army. Money is still needed to:
        1. Supply the army with provisions (you don’t want the army to eat what it captured from the enemy in battles?)
        2. Pay a salary (many military people have families at home, and for a “thank you” they won’t feed themselves, and some even have loans and mortgages)
        3. Support for logistics infrastructure (from timely repairs of bridges and locomotives, to the banal purchase of fuel for transport)
        4. Construction of military educational institutions and their maintenance (you can’t create your own specialists for nothing)
        5. The presence of a reserve for emergency purchases from private traders (during war, situations may arise when the army needs to buy something from civilians, from steamships to food).
        6. Maintaining the operation of the infrastructure of rear units (from missile defense radars to banal military warehouses in the deep rear)
        7. Construction and repair of military buildings (fortified bases, fortified warehouse bunkers, maintenance of military bases, etc.)

        ALL this, and more, requires money for yourself. But you can’t fight with the “Russian spirit and patriotism.” You can say a lot that “people are no longer the same, not patriots, etc.”, only to participate in hostilities when you have problems with supplies, personnel, organization, communications, etc. You can rely on patriotism alone, but such a specialist will not live long. And in general, it’s a little creepy when they want to be “ready to die for our ideals,” but at the same time do not consider it necessary to organize adequate service and supplies. It’s as if to win you just need more people ready to die, and not communications, intelligence, organization, supplies, etc.
        1. +1
          20 May 2024 10: 52
          Quote: Mustache Cock
          Have you ever thought about the meaning of the expression “war requires money, money and more money”?
          If for you it all comes down to buying weapons and hiring specialists... well, you have some childish ideas about the army.
          Well, actually, this phrase was uttered at a time when half of what you listed did not exist, but mercenaries and ordinance companies already existed (the end of feudalism).
          1. +4
            20 May 2024 11: 02
            Will we throw money at the enemy and hide ourselves in the money from his fire?
            1. -1
              20 May 2024 11: 12
              Quote: Quzmi4
              We will throw money at the enemy
              Exactly. There will be money, there will be an army, then they already fought not for land, but for gold. This was the answer to Louis 12.
          2. 0
            20 May 2024 15: 35
            Only here is the context of the topic that everyone is discussing here - it concerns today
    2. 0
      20 May 2024 11: 20
      Quote: BAI
      Shoigu can only lead under conditions of unlimited funding

      Shoigu was able to lead only in peacetime conditions and unlimited funding... Yes
      Quote: kreck
      You can buy the most advanced weapons, hire the most desperate fighters, but if you don’t have your own people ready to die for your ideals, then all this is worth a small coin.

      good
      Quote: Glock-17
      Right. Money can't buy patriotism.

      Yes
  11. +12
    20 May 2024 06: 17
    Thanks for the article, Alexander!
    It is clear that all this requires money. Much money. Somewhere you will have to “shrink” and moderate your appetites. But I do not call for acting on the principle of everything at once. It is necessary to decide what needs to be done first, what second, etc. And determine the deadlines for completion. Without unnecessary conversations and discussions.

    This is where I disagree; it’s not necessary to do everything at once.
    In our country, as it suddenly became clear to the top leadership, the army and especially the navy do not correspond to the tasks facing them. Having run into the drawbar of the Soviet-Finnish War of 1939-1940. J.V. Stalin just went for a complete reorganization of the army. As a result, by 1941 the army had already been reformed, but not completely rearmed, and the industry was basically ready for wartime. More time has passed since the beginning of the 2022 campaign than from November 30.11.1939, 22.06.1941 to June XNUMX, XNUMX, and the understanding that the army needs to be reformed has only come now?
    It’s good that while the enemy in the form of the NATO grouping in Europe is not yet a cake, but given the potential of industrial production controlled by the “Golden Billion”, the mobilization resource and the presence of motivated aggressiveness of our neighbors (Poland, the Baltic states, Finland) we have time to build up really no.
    1. -5
      20 May 2024 07: 23
      Quote: Victor Leningradets
      and the understanding that the army needs to be reformed has only come now?

      They began to reform the army back in the perestroika years, very actively, immediately after Rust landed on Red Square - these were not reforms but a real pogrom, which was accompanied by empty chatter. The slogan about the democratization of the army, that is, its disintegration, began to be imposed very intrusively; Gorbachev was a machine operator and a party apparatchik, and apparently did not know from history about the famous Order N1 of the Petrograd Soviet of March 01, 1917.
      After the collapse of the Union, there was nothing to reform; the army was a bunch of vagabonds.
  12. +8
    20 May 2024 06: 22
    Quote from turembo
    You know this as a joke: It’s great to work in the fire department, but if there’s a fire, at least quit... A lot of people ended up in the army who shouldn’t have gotten there. There were good salaries, benefits, a preferential mortgage, but after the war they started quitting. As for the prospects, you know, I worked in one agency for almost 8 years, but I am a civilian specialist, and often crossed paths with various security officials in joint work. Here we are going on a raid to catch criminals, we all take the same risk, but the security forces have a salary 2,5 times higher, everyone has expensive cars, apartments, and I get to the meeting place in an old Japanese car from the 90s. Not only am I running ahead of everyone, otherwise we won’t catch anyone, but also without a weapon and body armor (civilian, not allowed), they detained me, the security forces start smoking, and I begin the main work, filming everything, documenting it, and so on, and on There are even fewer prospects for the civil service, and you write here, poor unfortunates..... But that summer, two hefty foreheads persuaded me to take a contract, go, they say, you’ve already lived, have pity on the young people, your health is not very good, they won’t send you to the front line. .... Therefore, you know the right things, write, but I’m afraid that everything will go through one place, they will change the signs and that’s it, we really lack love and respect for each other among the people, but only when it appears we will get a strong army, when people will go not for money and benefits, but because it is an honor to serve and protect. Then respect for the profession will rise significantly.....

    Whose army had good salaries in the 90s? Were you serving in the army at that time? And I served. Try to find the village of Mayachnoye in the Primorsky Territory on the map. The area was “replaceable”, for a period of 5 years, just before the end of my 5 years, the “replacement” was cancelled... Life is downhill.
    The article is completely about me.
  13. 0
    20 May 2024 06: 23
    Everything is natural: the faded elite of the communists degenerated into Februaryists, and the army was also returned to the same era.
    1. +8
      20 May 2024 07: 12
      It has long been a tradition for people to forget the lessons of History. As soon as Humanity begins to live a peaceful life, it immediately does everything to quickly degrade into the state of overweight, lazy cats, not interested in anything other than personal comfort.
  14. +8
    20 May 2024 06: 29
    I didn’t recognize A. Staver... smile They changed the minister, lowered the tension a bit... Well, what did the new one do that was so good? Outstanding economist? I haven’t heard... And such a purely subjective moment. We are not Europe, our army has been accustomed, from time immemorial, to being led by military personnel... So, I think, in the army they look at this without optimism... But as for the officer corps, yes.... These will be knocked out, but there will be no new ones or not soon. And when they appear, there is no experience or they are safely forgotten, as always. And everything is new...
    1. -2
      20 May 2024 12: 08
      Quote: Medvedev_Dmitry
      Well, what did the new one do that was so good? Outstanding economist? I haven't heard

      And who is our outstanding economist? Was Gaidar? I think this man will still prove himself. And I think that they hired him not as an economist, but as a business executive - to build new enterprises, load old ones and organize logistics
      1. 0
        20 May 2024 12: 50
        Maybe. I mentioned the economist because that's the only thing he's known for. And it is known in whose team he worked... Well, a theorist from a business executive-organizer... you understand... And so, if it will be beneficial only for. But there will be no benefit.
    2. 0
      22 May 2024 14: 42
      Quote: Medvedev_Dmitry
      We are not Europe, our army has been accustomed, from time immemorial, to being led by military men... So, I think, in the army they look at this without optimism...

      From time immemorial, the army has been accustomed to not washing dirty linen in public, but to handing out beautiful reports (it’s a pity the enemy doesn’t read them). To them, of course, the boss from the outside is as sharp as a knife.
    3. 0
      27 June 2024 22: 48
      Marshal Ustinov (USSR Minister of Defense in 1976-84) was not a professional military man.
  15. +8
    20 May 2024 06: 52
    It’s funny, if the enemies of the USSR, with their freedom from the communists, which they so craved, did EVERYTHING badly, then why should they do one thing well? In 32 years they have already proven everything about themselves - what they want, what they are capable of, and nothing more will happen.
  16. +2
    20 May 2024 06: 53
    The words of the author, God bless, and someone else, into the ears. But so much has been done by amateurs that the spies would not have been able to do it if they had such a task.
  17. +20
    20 May 2024 06: 54
    Actually, there was a “triumph of democracy” during the time of Serdyukov. Then they converted divisions into brigades, closed shelters, and canceled airfields. In a word, this was the current president’s favorite optimization. He left the optimizers in the government.
    As for the new Minister of Defense. He hasn’t done anything yet, but people are already singing his praises with might and main. Aren't you afraid of being disappointed?
    1. +11
      20 May 2024 10: 30
      Serdyukov was removed in 2012.
      From the moment he was taken away until today, 12 years have passed.
      What prevented the receivers from doing at least something non-cosmetic for 12 years?
      The more they try to blame Serdyukov, the more questions there are for those who came after him.
      Excusing problems with the failures of past leadership is a favorite pastime of those who do nothing. They constantly seem to kick back at the past. I just want to ask, “WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING ALL THIS TIME???”
      1. +5
        20 May 2024 10: 51
        Why scold Serdyukov, he did everything on the instructions of the party and government.
        By the way, we also optimized medicine. There was no last resort to optimize your pension; you had to do it yourself.
        And lo and behold, Serdyukov is criticized for the same thing, but they are proud of it.
        1. +7
          20 May 2024 11: 12
          What a great start about Serdyukov. Can you tell me who appointed him there and who assigned such tasks to him? In my opinion, our GDP is legitimate. So I have a question just for the Supreme. How did it happen that today there are not enough lieutenants and they put home-grown ones in command. A beautiful gesture, from lieutenants to majors. The whole country watched. The president lacked foresight in military terms. Abolish the military education school. Sorry, reform. And then ask the military man what he is missing on the front line.
      2. +5
        20 May 2024 11: 05
        Quote: Mustachioed Kok
        What prevented the receivers from doing at least something non-cosmetic for 12 years?
        What are you going to do here? In one unit, Serdyukov fired a bunch of people because they had high ranks. They left, settled in the national economy, that’s all. Who should carry out their tasks? Remaining? They have enough tasks of their own. Instead, lieutenants could appear, but the school did not graduate them for 5 years. Okay, Serdyukov left, we set the course. He must unlearn. How many years? Here.
        Or another thing: Serdyukov sold a piece of land in the Moscow region. And there was a repeater tower on it. Yes, people immediately started to get excited, they urgently organized a connection to a replacement fiber-optic line (because without communication, normal operation of the unit is impossible), but the earth, bye-bye, the radio relay cannot be restored. But this is a small matter. Imagine restoring a shortened airfield, for example.
        1. +1
          20 May 2024 15: 39
          You say it like this:
          a) These are irreversible actions
          b) Serdyukov ruined a lot of things, but he didn’t ruin EVERYTHING. And relying on the elements that were slightly damaged, it was possible to begin restoration
          c) This still has not canceled the funding of the army, which would have allowed everything to be corrected after his departure, but along with the restoration and maintenance of schools, on the contrary, we continue to reduce and optimize
          d) And where is the conclusion from the action? Serdyukov was appointed by VV himself, did the leadership draw conclusions from his reforms? It seems that not much, because the problems of the army of the 90s, as the Northern Military District showed, partially still remain.
          1. +2
            20 May 2024 20: 17
            Quote: Mustachioed Kok
            You say it like this:
            a) These are irreversible actions
            Yes, these are irreversible actions: you cannot “fix” them, you can only do them again.
            Quote: Mustachioed Kok
            b) Serdyukov ruined a lot of things, but he didn’t ruin EVERYTHING. And relying on the elements that were slightly damaged, it was possible to begin restoration
            The army was already not in the best shape, if only the results of Serdyukov’s “work” had been corrected, then maybe something would have happened, but there were too many points for recovery.
            Quote: Mustachioed Kok
            c) This still has not canceled the funding of the army, which would have allowed everything to be corrected after his departure, but along with the restoration and maintenance of schools, on the contrary, we continue to reduce and optimize
            What are you about? What kind of funding? If you are talking about the promised trillion for defense, then this was just talk.
            Quote: Mustachioed Kok
            d) And where is the conclusion from the action? Serdyukov was appointed by VV himself, did the leadership draw conclusions from his reforms? It seems that not much, because the problems of the army of the 90s, as the Northern Military District showed, partially still remain.
            They drew conclusions - Serdyukov was not imprisoned, he was even awarded the Hero of Russia. And talk about 70% of new weapons, and the result is communication on the Baofengs, T-62s are fighting, etc. It’s good that some businessman started riveting Lancets in a former shopping center, otherwise it would have been completely sad.
        2. +1
          22 May 2024 14: 55
          Quote: bk0010
          What are you going to do here?

          Well, I do not know. Until 2014, Ukraine didn’t have an army at all, seriously. I remember how they used SMS to collect fuel for tanks, and we all laughed. And nothing, in 8 years they did it from scratch with a military budget ten times smaller and an almost non-existent military-industrial complex. Although it was not Clausewitz and Jomini who sat there either, but the same “chicks of the nest” as with us.
  18. +1
    20 May 2024 07: 00
    Nothing new. The eternal debate is how much money is needed for the army. But in the bastion of democracy and liberalism, where the president received the peace prize, they don’t worry about 800 yards of green space for defense per year, and everyone and everything is sneezed at.
  19. +12
    20 May 2024 07: 19
    To solve some of the problems, it is necessary to at least reduce the period of study in existing schools to 2-3 years. This will make it possible to saturate the army with junior commanders in the shortest possible time.
    I studied for 4 years, but I still don’t understand why the 4th year was needed. It may not be a higher education, but the officer corps will arrive. Remember, a long time ago you studied for 3 years and received not a “diamond” at graduation, but a VU badge and nothing.
    Second: stop the vicious practice of dragging “your people” from one duty station to another after the colonel or general. And this is not only in the army - in all law enforcement agencies. Are these not prerequisites for corruption and protectionism?
    1. +3
      20 May 2024 08: 23
      Four years is normal. Five years are definitely not necessary. In three years you are a technician, in four you are an operations engineer, in five you are an engineer.
    2. 0
      8 June 2024 21: 37
      It may not be a higher education, but the officer corps will arrive.
      Well, firstly, you need to create a full-fledged “sergeant corps”. Officers must rely on the cohort professional junior commanders and instructors. So you will have an increase in specialists without higher education, who will not have to be “marinated” for 5 years in the status of “students with shoulder straps” before they even taste real service. They called me up for an "emergency" job, he showed himself to be a smart guy, I liked it, I have commanding and pedagogical inclinations - I signed a contract, went to sergeant courses, received badges, got a position, and moved into a dormitory. Service, exercises, shooting, participation in the training of privates. Not up for a civilian job after the first contract? I signed the second one, took advanced training courses, and moved with my “beloved” into a service apartment. And service, service, service. And there I received official qualifications and the position of instructor for such and such training. It's simple. This approach will even make it possible to “save” on the number of officers in the army. (Which does not mean that it will be possible to “forget” about training the officer reserve. The sergeant reserve and the reserve of technical specialists, by the way, will also need to be trained somehow. But a “peacetime army” is a “peacetime army” because it cannot be to inflate indefinitely with either “epaulets” who have nowhere to go, or “extra” millions of “young organisms” locked away from the world for a couple of years and girls in barracks, which simply CAN be sent to a “hot spot” in the midst of “peacetime.” ", a high-quality reserve of trained personnel, a normally trained "extras" in the reserve - these are the three components of a sound formula for maintaining the combat effectiveness of the army.) And secondly, in general, an officer with a higher education is a zer gut. Therefore, it is not about the 100500th closed “officer” school that we need to grieve. It is necessary to go to the point that for a graduate GOOD a civilian university that did NOT “buy” a diploma for itself, an officer’s career would be NORMAL OPTION "career trajectory" in his life. And not “UNTHOUGHT” madness, which NO ONE will agree to, not even an “abnormal” person. Literally - at the age of 18 I wrote to the military registration and enlistment office that I was taking a deferment in order to enter an officer school after receiving a higher education, wait! I studied at a university, lived in a normal civilian environment, did physical work, immediately explained to the girl that there would be “hardships and hardships” in the future - and after graduation I applied to officer school. General officer training course, specialization course, practice in the troops, appointment to a position. Now THIS can be accommodated in the required shorter period. Or - you were drafted into the army, stayed on a contract, felt that you could and wanted to “finish” from the “academy”. Well, then go get a higher education at a CIVIL UNIVERSITY. If you want, take a long “vacation” (under the condition of passing annual standards), or if you want, take it in absentia. Otherwise, a good part of the insanity in the army is due to the fact that officers simply do not understand conscript soldiers and the “double basses” and warrant officers who emerge from them... And it takes 5 whole years to “prepare” a beardless youth for a future “tanker”, “rocketman”, “commander” motorized rifle platoon”... And then immediately give him a group of healthy foreheads, stupefied by long-term isolation from the world without days off (dismissal is a “privilege” that can be “deprived”) and from this “stupidity” they arrange cosplay among themselves as a juvenile prison ... From among the “second-year students”, from among whom, with a certain level of “non-recruitment” of the unit’s officer corps, it was more than possible to make “real soldiers”, due to which the unit could “shine” at important exercises. After which the “excellent students in combat and political training” simply... went for demobilization. After which... “not only everyone” could be called up for training “reserve soldiers and sergeants.” And those who were nevertheless included in the “partisans” using the “Russian roulette” method were entered there at most a couple of times in their lives, with many-year intervals between these “a couple of times”. Without any once a year, once every two years for the first few years, without any contracts for service in the reserves... Less “insanity” and that after which “they don’t laugh in the circus” - more emphasis on QUALITY and more of a SYSTEM APPROACH.
      Second: stop the vicious practice of dragging “your people” from one duty station to another after the colonel or general.
      Why does our officer need to keep going like this from platoon commander to division commander? I served as a commander here for several years, entered the academy, served as a military adviser there, served as a military attache, commanded there... More variety, more! A “highly qualified specialist” should not become sour! Look, in every place I was under the command of a new “superior boss.”
  20. +4
    20 May 2024 07: 30
    There are not enough personnel - this happens due to personnel and other errors.

    At the same time, it is completely clear who is responsible for this - the one who appoints the Minister of Defense to the post.
  21. +10
    20 May 2024 07: 32
    I was a cadet, the prospects were bright, I came to the unit - everything was immediately canceled, and my salary was three times less than that of my former classmates, so why serve? So that the rich continue to get fat? No, and many have decided the same. And now, how many have fallen off the mobile phone? Those who are richer and will never go to war, and cover the rest of their asses so that they can continue to ride around Thailand while the guys die? We were unnecessary for the army, but now it’s burned out and they called, not
  22. +6
    20 May 2024 07: 34
    First you need to punish the culprits. This will create a motivational package for others.
  23. +6
    20 May 2024 07: 36
    I have an old friend. About seven years ago, he was unofficially awarded the title of “the oldest battalion commander of the Aerospace Forces.” After the 14th year, in all seriousness, he almost called me back to RTV after a ten-year break from retirement. There were more than enough tasks for air defense in Crimea, and in the units there were 50% l/s and even fewer specialists in junior officer positions...
    What I mean by this, I still don’t know for sure or not, that in the GDR in RTV the head of a station (radar) could easily rise from lieutenant to lieutenant colonel in one place at his native radar station, and his company-battalion commanders were quite usually captains - majors...? Isn't this healthy careerism in a good sense?
    1. +7
      20 May 2024 08: 32
      Where is it possible to become a lieutenant colonel in a captain's position? I served in the Army Aviation from 1984 to 1994 at the RSP. So there are only companies and only one battalion in the district. Then he moved to RTB, but even there there were a lot of promoters, despite the fact that all but three officers were from Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. I served continuously in the Western Military District, Mongolia, Dalvo for 10 years, after the replacement some two years passed, rumors began to circulate about service again in remote areas, I quickly retired at the first opportunity
  24. +1
    20 May 2024 07: 38
    There should not be an army in which conscripts are hidden far in the rear. And for this the service life must be 2 years.
    What’s stopping you from starting training sessions with reservists? Once every three to five years, those who have served military service undergo military training. Then the mobilization will be competent. And now there are many reserve officers and generals who served in the headquarters of divisions, armies, and military districts. Oh yes, they are Soviet and know too much. It’s difficult to manage such people; you need brains.
  25. +13
    20 May 2024 07: 59
    And this is where it turned out that those same lieutenants and captains were very useful in the Northern Military District zone. When deploying units and formations, not only privates and sergeants were needed, but also platoon, company and even battalion and regiment commanders.

    It was just the opposite, and we remember how sergeants and officers “professional contract soldiers” with the beginning of the Northern Military District en masse broke contracts and, under any pretext, left the army, which for them was simply a “feeding trough” where they could quietly steal and wait for a free apartment and pensions by age 40-45.....
    And instead of THESE professional “defenders”, they mobilized 300 thousand workers, tractor drivers, drivers... and now they are fighting in the Northern Military District zone defending the interests of the Motherland.
  26. -2
    20 May 2024 08: 06
    Breaking what is set up during the “riot of democracy.” The army must become complete

    right.
    and we need to start with full mobilization from 18 to 30 years old, in some places older, not excluding boys and girls.

    because There are objective reasons for this - primarily in the labor market.
    both for those who have passed the SVO and for other older citizens.

    and this:
    - informal exclusion from the opportunity to occupy a workplace or position - if absent from it for more than 2 years
    - informal age limit (up to 35 years) for professions and middle managers
    -etc. (the list is extensive and will only grow)
    1. +2
      20 May 2024 08: 20
      Addition
      which means:
      1. you will be offered a lower vacancy, with a lower rank - accordingly, lower pay
      2. they will offer to study a new direction from the bottom - accordingly, lower pay
      3. looking for happiness on the side in another organization - increases the period of not working in the profession

      and in general, the territorial labor market in terms of wages does not want to grow to wages in the northwestern region.
      such levels are only in limited areas and during shifts.
      which means, in fact, a conflict of interest and lack of quick employment.
      which will lead to a massive flow to territorial areas (regions/cities) with high income levels.
  27. +5
    20 May 2024 08: 16
    This is all because in Moscow there are either not smart people or traitors.
    I can't find any other explanation for this situation.
    1. +2
      20 May 2024 11: 09
      Judging by what we all see, have you thought about the REAL purpose of the strange operation?
      1. 0
        20 May 2024 13: 15
        You are probably an emotional person and are not familiar with such a science as Logic.
        Drawing conclusions based not on facts, but on assumptions is the lot of not smart people.
  28. +5
    20 May 2024 08: 23
    The army was not prepared for a full-scale war. Hence the reduction of divisions to brigades. And they wanted to deal with Ukraine in a week. So here the questions are about strategy in general, at the highest level, and not specifically to Serdyukov, for example.
  29. 0
    20 May 2024 08: 40
    I absolutely agree with all the problems that the author voiced, I think like any sane person.
  30. +11
    20 May 2024 08: 50
    The author apparently has not heard anything about the economic basis and superstructure, which includes such an organization as the army.
    Why all these moaning about the lack of trained soldiers and officers? There are no collective farms, there are no tank crews, there are no industrial enterprises, there are no technical specialists. Where do they come from in a country filled with office plankton and civil servants?
    The Russian leadership is generally incapable of long-term planning - their only measure is money. If something is missing, you need to give money and everything will appear. Other logic is inaccessible to them. The very basis of state power in the Russian Federation is the distribution of material benefits from the export of natural resources.
    But at the same time, it is known that there is no strong army without a developed manufacturing industry.
    In other words, first of all it is necessary to start with industry, and the horse is not lying there. All the same disgusting degenerative faces.
    1. +4
      20 May 2024 10: 05
      The highest rise of mass patriotism and heroism among our Soviet people manifested itself during the Great Patriotic War, then this happened later and until now, but this is also explained by the fact that then the older generation of people well remembered life under the Tsar before the 17th year, it was who and with what to compare, which means there was something to defend during the attack of “enlightened Europe”. Now there are many similarities with the situation in the war with Japan in 1905, with the events of the First World War - somewhere there was something missing for some “good” reasons, then somewhere officials stole something, destroyed it in In the 90s, enterprises were (or were privatized), which caused enormous harm to the economy, and as a result, to the defense capability of our country. What do I mean by all this: in the Soviet school we were once told that in the history of mankind there is always a development of society: one system is always replaced by another... In our country, as I understand it, everything happened the other way around, that is, we again they rolled back somewhere with all the ensuing consequences, and as a result they got what the “French” say: “what is possible, then is possible”...
  31. +9
    20 May 2024 08: 53
    Quote: Million
    This is all because in Moscow there are either not smart people or traitors.
    I can't find any other explanation for this situation.

    In Moscow there are proteges of international financial capital, the most powerful and organized force on the planet.
  32. +7
    20 May 2024 08: 55
    Quote: Sergey Iv
    What’s stopping you from starting training sessions with reservists? Once every three to five years, those who have served military service undergo military training.

    There is no material base for holding training camps. Where to conduct them? There are no personnel units like the USSR? Everything is optimized.
  33. +7
    20 May 2024 09: 00
    Quote: Glock-17
    Right. Money can't buy patriotism. Homeland begins with a picture in your primer.

    Yes, and someone from the picture has a villa in Dubai or on the Cote d'Azur in the advertising brochure.
  34. +7
    20 May 2024 09: 03
    Quote from turembo
    Therefore, you know the right things, write, but I’m afraid that everything will go through one place, they will change the signs and that’s it, we really lack love and respect for each other among the people, but only when it appears we will get a strong army, when people go not for money and benefits, but because it is an honor to serve and protect. Then respect for the profession will rise significantly.....

    And who to protect - Denis Manturov with a salary of 800 million rubles per year? His children who dream of London?
  35. +1
    20 May 2024 09: 05
    1. If the Economy is designed for an army in the event of a big war, it will lose to economies that are not designed for this. Especially if the whole West is against you. There is only one way out - to have developed nuclear power and to have an economy that will allow you to survive during the sanctions/blockade. 2. I would reassign many of the functions of junior officers to sergeants (when I was in my service, I did just that - I chose the most adequate one who perfectly replaced me for the goodies). 3. The economy, including the military one, cannot be left entirely to the military, I saw an interview with a general in the 70s: how many tanks we have - 30-40000, and why so many - they give us money, we order. And then these tanks are sold for scrap - it’s more expensive to store.
    1. +6
      20 May 2024 10: 31
      And that nuclear weapons are a panacea for everything. The Ukrainians don’t have it, and nothing prevents them from striking our territory. When they fought in Afghanistan, they delivered one blow to a village in Tajikistan and what was the answer, that after that no one dared. And now the Americans, British and others are supplying us with weapons and nothing.
      1. +1
        20 May 2024 14: 36
        But Ukrainians are supplied by NATO. They don’t spend money on these weapons, their economy is not so hot anyway, but if they had to produce all these weapons themselves, what would happen to their country?
        1. +1
          20 May 2024 15: 43
          As for the fact that the SVO is in its third year, this is normal. 2022 Ukrainians captured 37 thousand km2, 2023 500 km2, and ours liberated about 600 km2. They write that the Ukrainians are bad with defense, with shells and with personnel, so ours are mean to defeat such an enemy. They almost surrender in units, but it turned out that there were 68 people, which is not even enough for a company.
  36. +1
    20 May 2024 09: 13
    Quote: Medvedev_Dmitry
    I didn’t recognize A. Staver... smile They changed the minister, lowered the tension a bit... Well, what did the new one do that was so good? Outstanding economist? I haven’t heard... And such a purely subjective moment. We are not Europe, our army has been accustomed, from time immemorial, to being led by military personnel... So, I think, in the army they look at this without optimism... But as for the officer corps, yes.... These will be knocked out, but there will be no new ones or not soon. And when they appear, there is no experience or they are safely forgotten, as always. And everything is new...

    Was Ustinov a military man?
    1. -2
      20 May 2024 10: 01
      Was Ustinov a military man?

      Well, I screwed up that everything was wrong.
      For him, the army was an appendage of the military industry, where he understood something. Therefore, questions of strategy and tactics, as well as command and control of troops, were alien to him. Not to mention the issues of technical re-equipment of defense enterprises. He adored all kinds of design innovations, which led to a breakdown in the arms race.
  37. +8
    20 May 2024 10: 17
    One of the main troubles in Rus' today: a huge number of people are out of place. Servants in Rulers, Traders in Service, Rulers in Trade. You need one “simple” rule: you can be rich, powerful and simply successful only within the framework of your PROFESSION.

    The civilian Minister of Defense is a mistake. An obscenely smart person can head the Ministry of Defense Industry, but not the Army! What will happen if an excellent aircraft manufacturer heads the Ministry of Health, and an outstanding organizer of oil production heads the Ministry of Education? Obviously - nothing good.

    As long as the authorities continue to “pull the cows into the hayloft”, contrary to everyday common sense, no good will happen. Although... maybe "The Baron likes things more complicated" (C;)
    1. +1
      22 May 2024 15: 14
      Quote: Bayun
      The civilian Minister of Defense is a mistake. An obscenely smart person can head the Ministry of Defense Industry, but not the Army!

      Well, what will happen if a lazy teacher gives one of the students to check tests and give grades? He will judge like this: “Vaska and Petka are my friends, Marinka is my sister, I roll balls with Dasha, Pashka promised to give me a fashionable case for a smartphone, Kolyan knows bad things about me from summer camp... That’s a lot of A’s already, in front of the others, how- it’s inconvenient now... Everyone is at least 4, which means only Tanka and Gray get C grades for credibility, I haven’t liked them since first grade.”
    2. +1
      30 June 2024 12: 55
      The civilian Minister of Defense is a mistake. An obscenely smart person can head the Ministry of Defense Industry, but not the Army! What will happen if an excellent aircraft manufacturer heads the Ministry of Health, and an outstanding organizer of oil production heads the Ministry of Education? Obviously - nothing good.


      Maybe the main mistake is that the country has been ruled by a “colonel” for 25 years, and not by an outstanding economist and politician....
  38. +3
    20 May 2024 10: 30
    The last time officer salaries were considered good was in the 70s. It was necessary to overcome the consequences of the Khrushchev reduction, when many officers were kicked out without length of service, benefits and a civilian profession, many already at the age of 40.
    In the early 80s, this still somehow persisted, then with the advent of Gorbachev, empty promises began under the ensuing inflation, pandering to nationalists and defamation of the military, who “ate everyone, otherwise they would live like in Germany.”
    I won’t describe what happened in the 90s, there will be a complete collection of works here, but in the fat XNUMXs...
    Salaries for the position of izvaniya have not changed for years, amounting to (you won’t believe it!) 2-3tr and 1tr, respectively. The rest was inflated through all sorts of “unnecessary bonuses,” including disastrous corruption ones “for achievements in service.” That is, one lieutenant could receive 10 tr, and the same lieutenant next to him - 4 tr. At the discretion of the commander and the availability of funds.
    Also, who forgot - the pension of military and other security pensioners, calculated from such “salaries”, did not reach the minimum size of the old age pension in the country (then, for example, 5 thousand), and therefore the so-called “presidential thousand". This was the case until 12 (not under Gorbachev, and not under Yeltsin!).
    Then salaries increased significantly, pensions were large. Therefore (well, don’t pay?) They began to cut them off by annual decrees, starting with 52%, and they are still cutting them, in my opinion, at a level of about 82% of the legal (!) pension.
    And to celebrate, military salaries were indexed once or twice by 10% over 4 years. Although the prices of the 12th year and the 22nd year... I would estimate approximately twice, for housing and cars - three or four times.
    And now Solovyov’s opening refrain sounds: the military should be paid normally, they deserve it!
    Hello, we've arrived!
    Every time we need to wander around the desert for 40 years for our brains to fall into place?
    Yes, and got up, however? Or are promises also money?
    Proverb: “If the Motherland thinks that it pays us, then let it think that we are protecting it!” did not arise out of nowhere.
    1. ANB
      0
      21 May 2024 00: 25
      . The last time officer salaries were considered good was in the 70s.

      In the 80s it was still normal. Even under Gorbachev. At least they gave it out on time. But since the 90s, everything died, and it’s still like that.
  39. -1
    20 May 2024 10: 45
    It would be nice if the top leaders of the Ministry of Defense began to think not only about themselves and their offices!
  40. +1
    20 May 2024 11: 02
    It is clear that all this requires money. Much money. Somewhere you will have to “shrink” and moderate your appetites.

    The appetites of the oligarchs.
    1. +2
      20 May 2024 11: 26
      Quote: Pavel57
      The appetites of the oligarchs.

      laughing Well, the regiment of dollar billionaires of the Russian Federation arrived in 2023. But eggs never got cheaper.
      Well, in general, you understand who still has to “moderate their appetites.”
  41. +2
    20 May 2024 11: 05
    Of the five units in which he served, only one remained alive. And the military department was destroyed. The result is obvious
  42. 0
    20 May 2024 11: 17
    The question is not only in the number of officers, but also in quality. The cadet goes to a school where he is taught by graduates of the same school, then courses, maybe. academy. And everywhere there are the same people, trained by people just like them. A person gets into a rut and over time it only gets deeper. It's like an automatic shaving machine. There seems to be a system for signing up students from civilian universities. Fresh blood, fresh, different views.
  43. +4
    20 May 2024 11: 23
    Strangely different!!! How do Americans manage with one academy for the Army, one for the Air Force, one for the Navy? It’s scary to think, but their aircraft carrier is commanded by pilots, an officer from a submarine is transferred to headquarters, and after serving at headquarters, he is sent as a first mate to a destroyer. The point is a well-functioning system and the ability and desire to work with personnel, develop them, and prepare for a real war.
    1. +1
      20 May 2024 14: 23
      Quote: alberigo
      How do Americans manage with one academy for the Army, one for the Air Force, one for the Navy?

      Who told you that? Many American universities have officer training programs, practically an analogue of our “military departments.”
    2. +1
      22 May 2024 15: 57
      Everything is a little more complicated there. In addition to the three Academies (actually four, the BO is also part of the Armed Forces), there are six more large military colleges, which are still very similar to ours - with uniforms, barracks, military discipline, etc. Plus the Medical University of the Armed Forces, common to all types of troops. This is not counting almost three hundred military departments of the Reserve Officer Training Corps in civilian universities and officer and warrant officer schools for non-commissioned officers.
  44. +4
    20 May 2024 11: 25
    We have fully experienced many of the shortcomings of our military reform.

    With this everything is clear. It’s not clear what our rulers have been doing for 8 years, since 2014? And in comparison with Ukraine, which is all in corruption and chaos, according to statements from our media, our leaders look somehow pale.
  45. +3
    20 May 2024 11: 33
    Yes, many lieutenants, and after five years captains, left for more “lucrative jobs” in civilian organizations. They left not because they didn’t like the army, they left because they saw no prospects for the future. No salaries, no apartments and service somewhere in the darkness, families were collapsing and so on.

    Many lieutenants went into civilian life straight from college. In the mid-80s, even in one of the court divisions, officer positions “in the field” (battalion and below) were 90-10% occupied by two-vipers and VRIDs from sergeants. The schools train 000 lieutenants each - but there is no one to command.
    Why do commanders have to constantly come up with something to win? I’m talking about the “tsar-barbecue” again... There have always been entire institutes and special design bureaus for this work. There were military scientists sitting there who knew about the problem many times more than any non-professional and quickly solved the problems.

    Because official structures do not work quickly. First the topic opens. Then statistics are collected. Then the project is developed. Then the project is approved or left for revision. Then - the first experimental product. Tests - factory and military. Revision based on test results. The cycle can be repeated several times. Then GOS. Improvement again. And finally, adoption and official order for the first batch. And again tests with modifications - because the series may differ from the experienced one.
  46. +2
    20 May 2024 11: 38
    But I disagree with the author.
    As I understand it, the main issue he raises is the shortage of officers and military specialists. The question is posed correctly. But here's the solution...
    To begin with, there is ALWAYS a shortage of officers in a warring army. There is no way to avoid this. Ever since the armies of states ceased to be knightly squads and a crowd of militias with pikes, states have always been faced with a paradox: a large trained army is needed for war, but a large trained army is critically dangerous in peacetime. Therefore, as soon as the war ended, they tried to disband the army as soon as possible. Even if there was a possibility of collecting it again in the near future. In modern times they came to the concept of compact armies, but not for long. Soon all countries came to the concept of wartime and peacetime armies. And then magazine rifles, machine guns, large-caliber guns and aircraft happened. And the understanding came that a regular army was only suitable for dying heroically in the first days (weeks, months) of the war. And completely different people will win the war. Each country looked for a way out of this situation on its own. In the USSR they followed the path of VseVoObucha. That is, universal military education. A structure was created that generally lasted until the collapse of the country: initial training in schools and the DOSAAF system, training in the first year of conscription, military departments at universities, regular training for “reserve soldiers.” It was this system that formed the Soviet mass army. And it is precisely this, and not a large number of military schools, that would ensure the deployment of the Soviet army from peacetime states to wartime states. And, by the way, it was precisely for this system that the vast majority of Soviet weapons systems were created.
    The author’s reasoning about “reserve” officers (not reserve officers, but about the training of officers for whom there are no positions in the peacetime army) is naive. Firstly, where should we put them then? Well, at the school you will train an artillery lieutenant “for the reserve.” AND? Are gunners needed somewhere in factories? Maybe in banks or offices? The military specialist you trained as a “reserve” will, in fact, lose 5 years of his life on something that he personally does not need. After all, the army and the national economy do not have many related industries. I can’t think of anything other than transport, construction and something related to road and pipelines. Well, maybe BTA pilots. But! How to employ them? Yes, a BTA pilot can become a civil aviation pilot. What if there are no vacancies for him?
    And, secondly, it follows from the first. Dequalification. Like any profession, officership requires constant maintenance of the level of training. It is clear that in a peacetime army there are much more opportunities to ignore this need, but “reserve” officers will not even have the theoretical opportunity to maintain their qualifications. Or regular fees? So then they won’t be hired. Yes, sure
    did not see prospects in the future. No salaries, no apartments and service somewhere in the darkness, families were falling apart and so on.

    But the author forgets that at that time there was a reduction in peacetime army personnel. That is, this measure was forced. The country was unable to support such a number of parasites. Yes, forgive me for being rude, but in peacetime an officer is a freeloader. He only consumes without producing anything. And the experience of the USSR cast serious doubt on the advisability of keeping these parasites. And even now it’s somehow not particularly pleasant to understand that the officer corps, even with apartments and salaries, turned out to be lousy for a serious war, and the generals even evoke thoughts of Stalin. Taburetkin was put in charge of breaking the army system for a reason. The army system has rotted from top to bottom. What was clearly shown by the war of 888, where our army entered as if straight from 1988.
    In fact, after the collapse of the USSR, the army, having lost outside control, turned into a closed structure where corruption, secretiveness and nepotism flourished. Remember? “The son of a colonel cannot become a general, since the general has his own son.” Army construction stopped and maintenance costs were largely simply privatized. And, apparently, it was customary to “cut to hell.” The figure of the “surgeon”, of course, was not the best. Not every butcher can. And they broke a fair amount of wood. But one thing was done right. The army structure became professional. This, by the way, is still the pain of former Soviet gold miners. The longing for the army of disenfranchised conscripts breaks out every now and then in attempts to return 2-year service or cancel deferments for students. The age was recently changed.
    But it so happened that the state needed not only an army, but also an army reserve. And this is where it turned out that those same lieutenants and captains were very useful in the Northern Military District zone. When deploying units and formations, not only privates and sergeants were needed, but also platoon, company and even battalion and regiment commanders.

    And as I said above, the “reserve” officers would not have helped in any way. Because over the next 3-5 years they would simply cease to be officers. Or does the author propose to keep them in service WITHOUT SERVICE?
    In general, any modern army experiences a personnel shortage when deployed in wartime states. Even the US government, with its colossal budget, suffers from chronic shortages. This is simply a PROPERTY of the modern army. And you either somehow raise the general level of military education of the population, or you suffer. And the number of military schools will not save you.

    And those same officers who were transferred to the reserve went to these positions. This is the trained reserve of the regular army. Minimal training, familiarization with new weapons and equipment - that’s all. This is especially noticeable among specialists - artillerymen, tank crews, sappers and others.


    Yes, but they ended up in the reserves after serving in the regular army. When it is reduced. But the army has been reduced and what to do with the surplus of graduates from military universities?

    But they are not there! There are no trained junior and senior officers in the Defense Ministry reserve! Which, in principle, is what Putin said in his answer. No, but they will. They will be when they graduate from high schools, that is, in a few years. But General Vlasov does not have these years in reserve. He needs officers now! Competent, trained and knowledgeable officers about equipment and weapons.


    I hasten to assure you: even if the USSR had begun deploying the army to wartime states, everything would have been exactly the same. Because “...competent, trained and well-versed officers in equipment and weapons.” This is not a product of a ONE-TIME program. This is the result of regular operation of the SYSTEM. Specialists of this level require constant training.

    gunners and drone operators. That is, those who now, at this point in time, play the most important role in the destruction of the enemy’s fortifications and manpower. There are simply critical shortages of such specialists. Is it right if a specialist is already trained in the army?


    Funny... :) We had an artillery school in our city. It was closed about 10 years ago. Instead, they then created a training center for drone operators. The only problem was that they started training officers. And this is the public... not very trainable. :) In general, they made a systemic mistake with drones: they relied on large reconnaissance drones, but small ones were needed. And accordingly, conscripts had to be trained at the platoon level, not officers.

    What about aviation? How many military pilot schools do we have left? How many specialists do they graduate per year? Again, savings, due to which military pilots practically do not leave the battlefield. We talk a lot about the resource of technology, but what about the resource of people? We somehow keep quiet about him.


    Is our fleet of combat aircraft growing? As a result of the dominance of Pogosyanism, we are now spending all our resources on replacing the outdated fleet with a new one. Our Air Force is not growing in numbers. We are so terribly smart that we are building the Air Force on the basis of heavy information security. Nobody in the world does this, only us. Smart and rich...

    Well, one last thing. Why do commanders have to constantly come up with something to win? I'm talking about the “tsar-barbecue” again

    Well, as far as I know, the commanders there didn’t invent anything. There was a tank with a damaged turret. The task was to lead the group along a potentially mined road. At the level of amateur military activity, everything was decided without officer participation, at the workshop level. Yes, and there is nothing strange if it was. Don’t forget, military-technical education is still almost engineering. And if an officer cannot, within the framework of his education, offer an engineering solution to a problem that has arisen, he has no place in the army. I think so.
  47. -1
    20 May 2024 11: 50
    In fact, the army is built according to the military doctrine of the state. It is not designed to fight NATO using the methods of the 1st and 2nd World Wars. For this purpose, there is a nuclear triad to deter the enemy. He knows about this and does not interfere openly. And in Ukraine this is not a full-fledged war, but a so-called SVO, which should be short and effective. But it didn’t work out... So, you’ll have to learn military science the real way. The current situation is temporary and will end, and it is not worth expanding the army by many hundreds of thousands; they will not be needed for a new world war...
  48. +1
    20 May 2024 11: 55

    There were military scientists sitting there who knew about the problem many times more than any non-professional and quickly solved the problems.

    :) Army amateur activities have always been and always will be. The information must still reach the design bureaus and institutes, they will summarize it and analyze it... And the army workshop is right next door. It is there that SZU-23-2 is piled onto trucks over and over again. There, an assault tank was made from Shilka. And from the Mi-24 they made a support helicopter (prototype of the Mi-28) not from special, but from ordinary weapons design bureaus. And the history of the Russian army is replete with examples of army creativity.

    We have fully experienced many of the shortcomings of our military reform.

    Yes, if only :) We are now feeling the jambs of the army construction process in the last 50 years. The late USSR with its moldy conscription system in which hazing and misuse of personnel, who sometimes did not hold weapons in their hands, flourished. The pre-reform army of the Federation, systemically degraded in all directions and busy with the privatization of Soviet property and categorically did not want to change the existing foundations, which were perfect for the corrupt activities of the general. An absurd reform of the military-industrial complex, which began as a conversion and almost left the country without a weapons industry at all, where to this day there is such a generational gap that one half of the design bureau cannot work with the other at all, and therefore neither aircraft nor ship projects come together. Taburetkina reform, which was entrusted to a person who did not want to delve into the specifics of the “industry”. All this has brought us to where we are. Where we as a whole country collect clothes, food, generators, tools, materials, medicines, equipment items for the soldiers at the front... And there are no good officers, competent specialists...
    So what to do? But precisely, to restore the military education system of the USSR, only at a new level. And first of all, TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE ARMY. Finally, understand that fighting and teaching to fight are DIFFERENT skills. Do not repeat the mistakes of the USSR, where everything degenerated into formalism and military field stupidity. Start with CVP at school. Re-create the system of military departments in universities. Balance the military training system and the needs of the army, create a new reserve system so that it works to maintain the level of training. And finally, create mobilization plans at the General Staff level. Realistic and objective.
  49. +1
    20 May 2024 12: 01
    It is clear that all this requires money. Much money. Somewhere you will have to “shrink” and moderate your appetites.

    First of all, it is not money that is needed, but brains capable of deciding in the technological realities of the 21st century where to spend this money. Then submit your decisions for open discussion in order to really take into account all objective comments. But they are not there. And until the current ilite is replaced and will not be. The Tsar was stuck after 2012 in his “ceremonial” reality. Those around him are either stuck with him or are wisely using this to line their pockets. And, as the last two-plus years have shown, they obviously do not need any global changes. They already have “everything according to plan.” Belousov can only slightly embellish the picture and add a couple of new fig leaves to the existing ones.
    Calling for something to be improved globally under the current system is still trying to treat the tail of a fish whose head has nothing left. They will eat up this “lot of money” and not choke. And instead of a report and responsibility, they will propose how to rally more closely around the Tsar’s body for the last two-plus years and threaten those who do not want to shut up with an article for discrediting.
  50. +1
    20 May 2024 12: 28
    What is this about?
    for all the good, against all the bad?
    so all for it.
    But everyone is still in charge of the same untouchable “elite” (full name says no, no), so the first thing is to check your pockets....
    because among the population - rising prices. And the Elite and statistics have an increase in income...
  51. -1
    20 May 2024 13: 50
    Quote: abc_alex
    And from the Mi-24 they made a support helicopter (Mi-28 prototype)

    What are you talking about... you need to have a snack...
  52. +1
    20 May 2024 14: 19
    The problem is not democracy, but capitalism.
  53. 0
    20 May 2024 14: 54
    There are many problems, the same problem for everyone, you had to think with your head when they started to break things, apparently money was more pleasant than thinking and rooting for the state
  54. +1
    20 May 2024 15: 06
    Serdyukov, too, was given carte blanche by the GDP to reform the army. After this, Shoigu was forced to redo what Serdyukov had done. For some reason this has always been the case! A new minister is appointed in order to eliminate the mistakes of the previous one, but it is necessary to appoint one who would only build up potential, and not destroy it. The officer training system in the Russian Army was destroyed from the moment military schools were converted into universities and institutes. After the cadets were given a free exit and made them contract soldiers after 1 year of study. The result is that discipline fell apart and the process began not of training, but of obtaining diplomas - managers. In the Soviet Army, we all served in order to achieve certain high (we hoped that high) ranks and positions, and for this we tried, if possible, to choose both the place of service and subsequent training at the academy. And now why do we serve!? Mainly because of the salary and the apartment! We served and received CASH, and now officers go to WORK and say: “SALARY”!
    In addition (I can imagine how some haters will howl now) once again (to be more precise, the second) the system of educational work in the Army was almost completely destroyed. Yes, there is a CHIMERA called "Military University". There are no words for how to call this higher educational institution more “kindly”. In the Soviet Army, each branch and branch of the army had its own military-political school, and there were not enough political officers. I'm not even talking about command and engineering officers. What about air defense!? Which is on everyone's lips TODAY. Now air defense officers of the Ground Forces are trained only in Smolensk. In the USSR there were 5 such schools, plus its own Military Academy (in Kyiv, by the way) - and these are only anti-aircraft gunners. And there were also anti-aircraft and missile defense schools of the country, radio engineering schools... Well, this is an example. And training an anti-aircraft gunner officer is much more difficult (no offense intended) than a tanker or infantryman. And so on for all types and branches of the military. I would like the new MO to take all this into account. But, seeing that none of the last three served in the Army...
  55. -1
    20 May 2024 15: 13
    The son of a general will not be able to become a marshal, because... The marshal has his own children. True story?
  56. 0
    20 May 2024 15: 44
    The system needs to be modernized, modernized, if you like.

    With us, as always: “to the ground and then...”
    In 1917 it had to be completely destroyed, but in 1991 it had to be modernized...
  57. 0
    20 May 2024 15: 47
    Why the hell did they “betray the Warsaw Pact allies”? At first they were voluntarily and forcibly invited there. At the same time, Yugoslavia managed to remain neutral. And then all these Hungarians and Czechs fled from the police department so that their ears were blocked from the wind
  58. +2
    20 May 2024 16: 04
    The closure and liquidation of Military Schools is, of course, a wrong step, but there is a big BUT! All these schools trained military personnel for the army of the USSR, with its population of almost 250 million people!! for the army of the USSR which amounted to almost 4 million people! People from all Soviet republics studied there! Plus the status and payment were at a high level!! Naturally, there was a great competition for admission to these schools; the best were selected and served conscientiously! After the collapse of the USSR, how much of the population was left in Russia? I won’t even remind you about the size of the army, and everyone knows better than me about the cuts and lack of money in the 90s! As I understand it, many military schools experienced shortages and were working, one might say, idle! The question is, maybe it’s worth preserving and reforming, cutting down the program somewhere, changing it, trying to still preserve the unique teaching staff!! But they decided to live and quickly! They didn’t think about the future, they just closed it!! Here is the result..... maybe I'm wrong....
  59. 0
    20 May 2024 16: 06
    The question is - how do You want to do this? How do you want to make all that money to build an army?
    Point is, that you are starting from the wrong side. First - build strong country, strong economy, infrastructure, industry etc. Next step is to build an army. Trying to build a strong army in the current economic situation is pointless. You have 20 times smaller economy then the West and You just can't win arms race with them.
  60. +1
    20 May 2024 16: 06
    Good article, but a lot of banality. There is an impression that the author is a good guy, but is not a military man and does not really understand how the budget of any state is formed for military structures and needs.
    And the principle is approximately the same everywhere, planet Earth (the third from the sun):
    - Maintaining an army in proper form and in normal combat capability for a long time of peace is VERY, EXTREMELY expensive, even for the richest countries.
    And the Russian Federation is not an exception at all, but rather exactly the opposite! A clear example!
    An example of expenditures and budget for the army in peacetime, to be para bellum throughout the ENTIRE territory of the country within the perimeter of the demarcation lines. And the presence of a lot of “shortcomings”, which are quite rightly listed, is... a banal norm.
    In other words, not a single state will be able to maintain its army at the proper level and for its hard-earned military budget for a long time of peace.
  61. -3
    20 May 2024 16: 20
    Quote: Barking_one
    The question is - how do You want to do this? How do you want to make all that money to build an army?
    Point is, that you are starting from the wrong side. First - build strong country, strong economy, infrastructure, industry etc. Next step is to build an army. Trying to build a strong army in the current economic situation is pointless. You have 20 times smaller economy then the West and You just can't win arms race with them.


    "You have 20 times smaller economy then the West and You just can't win arms race with them." - really????? Are You completely sure by saying "20 times smaller economy "?
    You know, would add a point:
    Russian Federation is not starting but is even already performing (and enough successfully) construction of the own army based on the same own (not world!!!!!) taking into account the own strong army already built based on the own economy due to the own strong army already existing based on the own economy due.... etc.....
    Hope, You'll like the sentence above compiled based on the already available strong national army built and formed due to the strong national economy etc.... 8-))))
    1. 0
      20 May 2024 16: 34
      Official data.
      Russian GDP - 2 trillion USD
      USA GDP - 27,4 trillion USD
      UE GDP - 18,5 trillion USD

      So it is around 23 times smaller.
  62. +1
    20 May 2024 16: 31
    Judging by the events taking place in the Moscow Region, the new minister has been given carte blanche to restore order in the army


    Does the author really think that an economist will restore order in the army? Will it be more effective than previous representatives of the Ministry of Emergency Situations and the Federal Tax Service? However...
    It always seemed to me that everyone should mind their own business: a doctor should treat, a driver should drive, etc.
    These seemingly simple truths are based on the most important postulate - “do what you know.”
    If it is not observed, then even if you are an economist from God, you are not capable of modernizing and strengthening the army due to the fact that you do not understand the meaning of what needs to be done. Moreover, it will be impossible to create a team of professionals around you to implement your plans, because you will be unable to control them due to ignorance of the “subject”...
  63. 0
    20 May 2024 17: 07
    Quote: Barking_one
    Official data.
    Russian GDP - 2 trillion USD
    USA GDP - 27,4 trillion USD
    UE GDP - 18,5 trillion USD

    So it is around 23 times smaller.


    Arguable calculation(s).
    So, for ex, based on Your data: what are the expenses from "USA 27,4 trillion USD" and "Russian GDP - 2 trillion USD" for, let's say, the medical care or heating during the autumn - winter - spring seasons ? 8-))))))))) What "big" amount of money left will You and "me" have after subtraction (minusing) these costs from both budgets and not only these expenditures? 8-)))))))))
    What are the prices for box cigarettes in USA and Russia? And a simple cup of coffee in cafe in Moscow and New-York? Etc....
    You know, I know well these "calculations". And you?

    And....., pls, do not make calculations in US-bucks. I do prefer to use the Russian rubles or Indonesian Rupies or as option Francs of Central Africa or Rands of South Africa, at least. No dollars....
    1. -1
      20 May 2024 20: 34
      You know nothing about economy, do You?
      Lets compare GDP PPP which is GDP with prices consideration:
      Russia 4,3-5,1 trillion USD (there are different data because there is no indenpendend statistic given)
      USA - 27,8 trillion USD
      EU - 26,4 trillion USD
      Canada - 2,4 trillion USD (I forget to add it last time)
      So we have 4,3-5,1 vs 56,6 which gives us around 11-13 times more.
      Lets compare it per capita - which means, how much can average person buy. Data from IMF based on official reports.
      Russia - 34000 USD
      Portugal - 47000 USD
      Poland - 49000 USD
      EU average - 52000 USD
      USA - 85000 USD

      As You can see average person in European Union can buy around 1,5 times more goods. It is of course a fake picture, beacuse of different prices on goods and let's find why.

      Average salary in Russia according to Trading Economics is 762 Euro. Average salary in Poland is 1882 Euro. This is one of the problems - in Russia GDP is pumped by very small amount of very rich people like Melnichenko while in Poland wealth is more equally distributed.

      Fuel is cheap in Russia - according to Internet 1 liter of Super 95 in Moscow is around 0,55 Euro, while in my city it is around 1,5 Euro. So You can buy 1385 liters of fuel, while average Pole can buy 1254 liters. Is it really so big a difference?

      But let's compare cars. Cheapest Kia Ceed in Russia is around 2,25 million rubles which is 23,800 Euro. For that money you can buy Kia Ceed in Poland. Point is, that Russian Kia is far worse, with older engine (1.6 128 HP, without turbo while in Poland you get 1.5 turbo 140 HP). Russian Kia comes without traction control, without side curtains, without driver's assists like LFA, LKA, without LED lights etc.
      Now - person in Russia needs 31,2 monthly salaries to buy this car, while person in Poland only 12,7 monthly salaries.
      Can You see the difference?

      So maybe electronics? Samsung S24 Ultra 1TB Russia 1730 Euro (Wildberries.ru), Poland 1629 Euro (Morele.net). So You have to spend 2,5 salaries for this smartphone, while Your firend in Poland can buy it for less than 1 salary.

      As You can see Your purchase power is pumped because of oligarchs and cheap fuel, cos everything else is more expensive and often of lower quality (like cars)

      Of course You can prefer rubles or whatever You want. Problem is, that rubles are not acceptable in most western countries, while USD is money loved everywhere.
      1. -1
        21 May 2024 02: 13
        Average salary in Poland is 1882 Euro.
        With this kind of digits there would be no polish diaspora in England and Germany. Yet poles do prefer living abroad, so it's not that great out there.
        You have to spend 2,5 salaries for this smartphone
        Property in Poland is significantly more expensive, leaving your average pole out of pocket for years.
        1. 0
          21 May 2024 13: 19
          Yes and no. Today there is not much people leaving Poland for work. Of course - salaries in Germany or UK are higher, but not so much. Most people don't come back, because they left Poland 15 years ago or so, and they have families, houses etc. in UK or Germany. But on the other hand according to official statistic beureau 160000 Poles came back to Poland between 2017-2022.
          Here is article about Poles coming back and leaving Poland - green bar shows people returning to Poland.
          https://www.bankier.pl/wiadomosc/Polacy-wracaja-z-emigracji-Wiecej-powrotow-niz-wyprowadzek-8698136.html
          1. 0
            21 May 2024 13: 29
            Most people don't come back, because they left Poland 15 years ago or so
            There is definitely another reason- 1882 euro salary is actually before tax figure, and median salary-more precise statistical factor- stands at 1536 euro. That's merely 1048 euro after tax, so Poland is nowhere near successful western countries. 1000 euro in my experience is just one modest weekend in Gdansk for 2.
            1. -1
              21 May 2024 13: 56
              Yes and no - again. Remember that you have taxes also in UK, Germany etc. Also median salary is lower in UK, Germany etc. than average salary. It is normal. Also your data is from 2022, because there were no new official data of median income. In nonofficial survey about Krakow and Warsaw median pointed as 1900-2100 Euro while median salary in UK in 2023 was 2500 Euro.
              https://wynagrodzenia.pl/artykul/porownanie-wynagrodzen-w-warszawie-i-krakowie-w-2023-roku

              1000 Euro for weekend in Gdansk is real price, but every one in Poland says, that prices at our sea shore are crazy and people prefer to take a flight to Tenerife or Mallorca cos it is cheaper there
              1. 0
                21 May 2024 14: 08
                Average salary in Poland is 1882 Euro.
                After tax its just 1281 euro. in England minimum wage after tax is 1740 pounds. So don't get too excited.
                1. 0
                  21 May 2024 14: 12
                  After tax 2500 Euro is 1536 Euro and 2000 Euro is 1377 Euro.
                  1. 0
                    21 May 2024 14: 17
                    1536 Euros
                    Is hardly a sum to be proud of, even if some things are cheaper in Poland.
                    https://en.antal.pl/insights/salary-calculator
                    I used this one.
              2. 0
                21 May 2024 14: 39
                median salary in UK in 2023 was 2500 Euro.
                Median salary in the UK now is 2390 pounds after tax.

                https://www.avtrinity.com/uk-average-salary#:~:text=The%20median%20average%20salary%20for%20full%2Dtime%20workers%20(male%20and,and%20%C2%A338%2C131%20in%202021).

                https://www.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/salary.php
          2. 0
            21 May 2024 13: 47
            And Yes - properties are expensive. In Warsaw - about 4200 Euro per square meter, but salaries in Warsaw are also high - about 2500 Euro.
            Flats in smaller cities aren't so expensive - for example in Olawa (25 minutes of car ride from Wroclaw) it is around 1800 Euro so it is around 1 square meter for 1 month of work.
            Many people in Poland live outside big cities, because You can buy a flat/house for 50% of the city's price. Also because roads are quite good it is easy to reach city.
            1. 0
              21 May 2024 13: 52
              about 2500 Euro.
              I know just as many poles as you do, so don't tell me these stories. Poland is not an economic powerhouse you are trying to show. There is a certain success in economics, yes- but mostly because of western industry migration and polish remittancies from abroad.
              1. 0
                21 May 2024 13: 58
                Official website of statistical beureau
                https://warszawa.stat.gov.pl/warszawa/

                Przeciętne wynagrodzenie (III 2024) 10634,91 zł ↑
                1. 0
                  21 May 2024 13: 59
                  Official website of statistical beureau
                  Your "statistics" seem to be shamelessly doctored.
                  1. 0
                    21 May 2024 14: 01
                    Do you have any evidence of it? Or just anything which is not corresponding to your vision of world is fake?
                    1. 0
                      21 May 2024 14: 05
                      Do you have any evidence of it?
                      I do- words of polish friends of mine, own experience of visits, just simple GDP numbers- everything points at you exagerrating your success story.
                      1. 0
                        21 May 2024 14: 09
                        What succes story? I just point numbers and give sources to it. Your visits - probably years ago, cos probably You are not allowed to enter Poland anymore. And Poland made a huge jump in the last 10 years. Really.
                        And friends - personal opinions are worthles if we talk about big numbers. If you ask me or my friends than You will have completely different picture, because I'm happy enough to be in the upper part of society and my earnings are above average. On the other habd You can know someone working for poor money in local shop and this person would give You completely different picture on Poland. That is why I point average numbers, not some individual ones.
                      2. 0
                        21 May 2024 14: 14
                        You are not allowed to enter Poland anymore.
                        I grew up in London and hold 2 passports of NATO countries tongue .
                        I'm happy enough to be in upper part of society
                        Yeah, right Yes Even if you are doing well, Poland in general- not so. Skilled workers in England are not too keen to move back home, polish diaspora in the UK does't seem to dissipate. Even nominal GDP comparing to western countries is small.
                      3. 0
                        21 May 2024 14: 18
                        Most polish people in UK lives there for 15 or more years, cos it was the only country, which was available to Poles, to work, after Poland joined EU. Now they don't want to come back, because they have everything there - houses, families, friends. Just like my schoolfriend, who left Poland in 2005 and lives in UK. Why should he come back? He has wife, children, home. No point of coming back for him.
                      4. 0
                        21 May 2024 14: 23
                        Most polish people in UK lives there for 15 or more years
                        Not really- a lot came to save up for own house back home, so not the case- in fact< only half of who i knew were there for 5+ years.
                        No point of coming back for him.
                        To live in wealthy country with high salary and excellent quality of life laughing So yes- there's no point for him.
      2. 0
        21 May 2024 09: 48
        eight-)))))
        Completely not correct.
        All the data are taken from Internet-carbage including wrong conclusions.
        I'm in a position to argue with You in terms or each point/item You've mentioned. At the same time, It's a little bit boring for me to discuss in details Your points.

        Maybe, only one:
        ************************************************** ******************************
        "Russia - 34000 USD
        Portugal - 47000 USD
        Poland - 49000 USD
        EU average - 52000 USD
        USA - 85000 USD"
        and
        "Of course You can prefer roubles or whatever You want. Problem is, that roubles are not acceptable in most western countries, while USD is money loved everywhere." (including information on KIA Ceed prices 8-))))))) ):
        ************************************************** ******************************
        As mentioned earlier: pls., subtract all the expenses for "the medical care or heating during the autumn - winter - spring seasons. etc etc etc (there are a lot of additional costs to be paid as obligation!!!!!!) "from "Russia - 34000 USD" and "Poland - 49000 USD". Believe me.... You will be very and at the deapest surprised having the final results.
        For ex: what is the price in Poland to change medically the crystal in (one!) eye? 8-)))))))))) And to compare the price with that in Russia 8-)))))))) You will be very and very surprised!
        "roubles are not acceptable" - NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For ex., in Turkey or China or India or Thailand, or Ungarn, etc, Russian Ruble are very acceptable.
        And pls be surprised: people in the territory of the Russian Federation don't need to have "USD money loved everywhere", completely and at all !!!!!! Because there are no needs to have dollars for visiting shops... Yesyesyes! We, Russians, do prefer to support our own national economy (and big and strong national army, as well) therefore we are paying everywhere in Rubbles.
        I do understand reasons for a just opposite situation in Poland where people have to pay attention every day to the (fail!!!) exchange rates between Poland national currency (Zloty) and Euro/USD. For sure, that's pity, but no harm is done, cheer up, everything will be ok and very soon, for Poland nationals!
        Regards, My Dear Friend from Poland!
        1. -1
          21 May 2024 13: 40
          I took data from Internet. If You have better - please show it. Fuel is expensive in Poland - yes. About heating? Is it very expensive? For heating of 63 square meters flat I paid 1000 Euro for a whole year. Is it much?
          Medical care in Poland is free. You pay medical tax and get free medical care. Changing crystal in eye (I think, I translated it correctly) costs you (in commercial hospital) between 720-2500 Euro (depends of crystal type).
          https://www.optegra.com.pl/cennik/klinika-wroclaw
          Is it expensive? Completely affordable for people here.
          Next thing - roubles. Turkey, India, Thailand... OK but what can You buy there? Car from Thailand? Smartphone from India?
          And I don't understand why do we have to pay attention to exchange rates between PLN and USD/Euro. Almost no one cares about that.
  64. -1
    20 May 2024 17: 17
    In philosophical "categories" there are such concepts as substance and function. Substance, in our country, is an objective reality, that full-fledged power subject, formed over the last 40...50 years, by the Soviet nomenklatura and their “children”, for specific purposes and tasks of the regime of domination of private property, on which VERY dependent MANY phenomena in our lives, and function is the sphere of activity, including state systems, and structures that ensure the existence and development of “substance”, also in the specific interests of this “elite”. Therefore, it is impossible to change the girls, boys, beds or clients in our “brothel” and radically change the substance of the dominant commercial economic and political interest, based after 1989, on financial usury and trade speculation, and achieve fundamental, qualitative changes in all areas. And all this propaganda is “for redheads,” that is, for naive and gullible idiots (. Without a systemic, revolutionary replacement of legal relations of the dominance of private property and the state, with legal relations of nationalization (socialization) of property and the state, ANY replacements and reforms will be the cynical lie of the “rich” nouveau riche, who have been robbing and stealing from the Russian population for the last decades. Now, each layer of the country’s population, divided in relation to privatized property, already has its own truth and the bulk of the Russian producing population can no longer be deceived. in my opinion, it is necessary to talk about the creation of a new substance based on scientific and industrial advanced development, and not about intrigue and behind-the-scenes fuss in the existing “gross establishment.”
    1. 0
      20 May 2024 17: 38
      We have already gone through revolutions. Is it possible somehow without valuations?
      “Intrigues, conspiracies, scandals”, “elites and elite children, coupled with “brothels” - they will always be there, no matter the substance, powerful or not. This is how homo sapiens works. Are you going to upgrade a person? Cut something off from him and Sew something on him, insert a new one? It’s in vain.... It’s in vain.
      “Russian productive population” sounds beautiful and intriguing. I wonder what categories of professions you mean by “producing”? 8-)))) And which of them “cannot be fooled”?
      And the last question, please: Would it be difficult for you to name it in a geographical sense as “NOT a bar establishment”? Where to look on the globe in search of a new "substance" where there is no presence "dominant commercial economic, and political interests, based after 1989, on financial usury and trade speculation"? Where is this? Intrigued!
      Explained very cleverly and sensibly!!!!!
      1. +1
        20 May 2024 17: 57
        Unfortunately, a person cannot be changed; neither is the laziness of the human mind (... I can only recommend one effective method - from the abstract to the concrete. Good luck.
  65. +2
    20 May 2024 17: 18
    Alexander Staver, in his article, tried to raise the issue of increasing the combat capability of the RF Armed Forces. But he began to look at it from the wrong side. We need to start with the nineties of the last century. When the greedy traders who seized power began to rule the country. Traders literally don’t need an army at all. For them these are non-core expenses. They want to become part of “civilized humanity” (the world bourgeoisie).
  66. -1
    20 May 2024 18: 33
    I hear the cry of the soul, but there are no concrete proposals. Something needs to be done, and what exactly, but let the new minister think - his eyes are not dusty. Blank article.
    1. +3
      20 May 2024 20: 23
      “For now, Alexander is not yet President!” - paraphrasing a soldier's song.
      The following circle of officials can answer your question:
      - The President, having heard a report on the current situation and the forecast timing of the start of a major war at the Security Council, its possible scale, and gave instructions to conduct command post exercises on the topic;
      - the NGS, based on the results of the command and control exercise, appointed the necessary forces and deployment dates to ensure the defeat of the enemy;
      - The Minister of Defense, who has decided on the order of actions to transfer the economy to a war footing and proposes a mobilization plan;
      - Prime Minister, who developed an action plan for the implementation of the mobilization plan and its material and financial support;
      - Again the President, who signed the relevant decrees and appointed those responsible for their implementation;
      - And finally, the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council, who notified the world of our unyielding determination to defeat everyone.
      1. ada
        +1
        21 May 2024 07: 50
        Greetings!
        KShU - unnecessary.
        According to the mob plan, they will decide late; what they managed to put down is what they will live on.
        The Prime Minister is changing the mob plan to the industrial work plan for the first half of the war.
        There is no need to announce anything - press all the buttons - this is the only event that provides!
        laughing
  67. -1
    20 May 2024 19: 11
    Well done. Short and to the point.
  68. -1
    20 May 2024 19: 17
    Quote: Desperado
    Judging by the events taking place in the Moscow Region, the new minister has been given carte blanche to restore order in the army


    Does the author really think that an economist will restore order in the army? Will it be more effective than previous representatives of the Ministry of Emergency Situations and the Federal Tax Service? However...
    It always seemed to me that everyone should mind their own business: a doctor should treat, a driver should drive, etc.
    These seemingly simple truths are based on the most important postulate - “do what you know.”
    If it is not observed, then even if you are an economist from God, you are not capable of modernizing and strengthening the army due to the fact that you do not understand the meaning of what needs to be done. Moreover, it will be impossible to create a team of professionals around you to implement your plans, because you will be unable to control them due to ignorance of the “subject”...

    Knowledge of the subject boils down to: the commander is always right! That’s the whole “academy” that caused the rush in the first months of the Northern Military District. The stripe on the forehead from the cap is not a gyrus.
  69. -1
    20 May 2024 19: 40
    "Unit commander without military education..."
    why this sorrow? Zhukov also had no military education, a simple furrier, Shoigu, too, a simple foreman, and this new one, also an incompetent economist. ok, at least not a gynecologist. although our soldiers are used to everything
    1. -2
      20 May 2024 21: 33
      Zhukov graduated from Higher School of Cavalry and Frunze Military Academy.
      1. 0
        21 May 2024 20: 58
        "Zhukwov graduated Higher School of Cavalry and Frunze Military Academy"
        where did you read this? or did you study with him? laughingCavalry courses are just
  70. +1
    20 May 2024 20: 09
    If we are to begin to restore order in the Army, then we should pay attention to those who determine the “personnel policy” in the troops...
    The guy, who throughout his entire service was never away from his desk with a pen, and then from his computer, is in charge of all the appointments, movements and awards of officers... In any case, he prepares and substantiates his proposals for this or that candidacy.
    As a result, the leadership has orders and medals all over its chest and back, and with the beginning of the Northern Military District, completely different officers and generals are conducting successful military operations.
    Soviet times in SA -
    - The head of the division's personnel department...there were no special conditions for the appointment - he is worthy and forward, but from a major position, at least.
    - Head of the corps personnel department - former battalion commander, deputy regiment commander...
    - Head of the army personnel department - commander of a regiment, brigade...
    - Head of the district personnel department, Group - division commander...
    That is, the personnel was “managed” by those who experienced and know how cold and shitty it can be in the trenches!!!
    And suddenly a figure... of virtues - all the service at headquarters in boots and trousers for exhaust, well, it’s advantageous to get married.
    No, I agree, there may be exceptions and there were...but the trend was clear - only those with experience of real SERVICE in the troops were promoted to the "top" cadres! Yes, there were plenty of team idiots, but... the approach was correct - experience and knowledge of real service, which contributes to high-quality and responsible study of personnel in practical work...
    How can you determine the career prospects of a particular officer-general if your military skills include only the knowledge of which folders to “store” secret documents, how to stitch them and seal them correctly? I'm exaggerating, of course. But the service of “eight-wingers” is very far from the specifics of a particular command, engineering or logistics position in military units, formations and associations of the Armed Forces.
    "Personnel decides everything!" and not “Personnel decides everything”...
  71. +2
    20 May 2024 20: 12
    Again, the naive belief that now everything will change. That everyone with power and money will begin to think not about themselves, but about him - the “common” people and country. But, alas, there will be no miracle.
  72. +1
    20 May 2024 20: 47
    Once again I am re-reading the memoirs of the People's Commissar of the USSR Navy, Admiral N.G. Kuznetsov “On the Eve” and am amazed by his foresight in taking measures for the combat readiness of the fleet before the start of World War II and the Great Patriotic War. And at the same time, I am indignant at the facts of uncertainty in taking urgent preventive measures in preparation for repelling the invasion of fascist Europe on the USSR by senior state officials. But the same dual policy of England and France is especially indignant. Well, there are a lot of historical parallels with today's international situation. It's alarming, though.
    1. +2
      20 May 2024 21: 00
      European politics have not changed at all in 1000 years. But as for the events of the 41st, everything is not as it seems, we do not know much and 1/100, the reasons, the meaning of all the views and motives of this or that figure, as indeed now in our time, and we think only from our own level bell towers.
  73. +2
    20 May 2024 20: 49
    Not only military education and military science, the engineering school were reduced (destroyed), entire branches of the military and mobilization potential were destroyed. There were not enough air defense officers in the ground forces in peacetime (closer to the body, without begging other specialists), and this is a specialist of an elite (so to speak) level of training, more difficult than the SNR, humanity has not yet come up with anything, i.e. You can’t train such a specialist in a year.
    This is also taking into account the fact that in all military universities scientific, analytical, design and invention work was actively carried out, new techniques and methods of combat work were developed, educational and methodological work was carried out, methods of training troops were developed, etc. Those. It’s not enough to build (repair) new buildings and barracks, assemble a training base, the most important thing is where to get teaching staff of the highest level and qualifications, course commanders, the continuity and traditions of “ours” which had roots and have not been interrupted since the times of the Republic of Ingushetia, the first imperial artillery cadets courses that have now been thoughtlessly terminated by “effective managers”.
    It is not enough to prepare a lieutenant who is not yet an officer in the full understanding of this rank; the officer’s formation time is necessary, when selection for professional suitability also takes place. Before accepting a battery, a division, not to mention a brigade and an army, an officer goes through a long path of formation, selection and qualification at each stage, without exception, of career growth. In the SA, this was a mandatory condition even for the most “thieves” lieutenant; you will never become a battalion commander if you were not a company commander, this was the law. The army environment and activity is not an area where you can neglect experience and professional, business, moral qualities in your career, “jump over steps and walk over corpses,” the fate and lives of your subordinates, your friends and colleagues, and the country are at stake.
    Of course, you can sigh and lament for a long time, but what was destroyed cannot be returned or restored in its original form. But it is necessary to start this work, at least with something, while veterans and people who know how to do this are still alive, who, if necessary and want to attract them to work, regardless of age, need to create ultra-comfortable and ultra-attractive conditions. Savings and our usual bureaucratic idiocy in this matter will result in catastrophic losses and losses, or even complete collapse.
  74. +2
    20 May 2024 22: 21
    The real estate auctioned by the Deputy Minister of Defense, worth several billion, will already cover some of the problems. And how many ministers are at the helm? Their capital is enough for more than one reform
  75. +2
    20 May 2024 23: 22
    Judging by the events taking place in the Moscow Region, the new minister has been given carte blanche to restore order in the army. We need to point it out. Not only to drag corrupt officials into the light of day, but also to destroy and rebuild what has been heaped up over the years of “the riot of democracy.”

    We must be confident that the Department of Defense can truly defend us. And this will not be done in the same way as during partial mobilization..


    Alexander approaches the question from the wrong end. It hits the tops. The country really needs a strong army to protect its vast territory. Only the country needs not only officers, but also taxpayers who are ready and willing to support officers and a huge army. The army and the entire military-industrial complex of the country do not exist in a vacuum, but surrounded by respectable taxpayers or citizens. For every officer there must be at least several dozen taxpayers and for every soldier, too, not to mention the military-industrial complex. If they are not there, they were not born due to difficult living conditions, or they fled to other states for the same reasons, then there is no one to support the army and the state and it is necessary, as in Ukraine, to catch future officers, and this is the agony of the state. Officers must not forget who they protect and at whose expense they command. Stalin also commanded and Zelensky commands, only the consequences are sad.
  76. +2
    21 May 2024 14: 23
    Everything said is absolutely correct. When the stool idiot with his associates, and the idiots before him too, destroyed the military education system, even then it was clear that in any more or less serious conflict we would have a lot of problems. What is a commander untrained in military affairs? This is loss of life.
    So we are reaping the bloody fruits of our deeds in the 90s and XNUMXs.
  77. +2
    21 May 2024 17: 40
    In 2023, Ivan Popov was removed from the command of the 58th Army. For criticism. Combat general, Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, Northern Military District. Now, on a trumped-up criminal case, he was locked up in a pre-trial detention center. Well, who will we go with next? With those who deal with heroes for criticism? It’s terrible what’s going on here, and we know 10 percent of it...
  78. +2
    21 May 2024 18: 30
    The army mess is invincible. I am a communications engineer, I went to the Northern Military District as a communications operator, and was ready to become a drone operator. Result: machine gunner and senior flamethrower. I don't regret it, but I could have done more.
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  80. +1
    11 June 2024 02: 32
    A mistake occurred in the heads of the authorities; they naively and sweetly thought that “we are our own, we are bourgeois” (c). And these wolf eyes glowing in the dark are “our Western partners.” They love us and want to marry us. Such a girlish mistake cost us... very dearly. The destroyed military schools are only a small part. Well, the roast rooster pecked in the back, the authorities woke up, although it was late, but understanding came to them. And as for the fact that we ourselves, not they - we, have NEVER been “our own, bourgeois,” and they will also understand this.
  81. 0
    12 June 2024 21: 27
    Yes, command squads and companies are vulnerable in war, so it is necessary for a platoon and a company to have 3 sets of commanders!? What nonsense!!!!! Will those who served in the army really support this? Does anyone really think that they need to churn out a bunch of lieutenants and put them in the position of platoon commander until they retire? Maybe it would be better to look towards the non-commissioned officers? Now the mood is at most in the department, do we want to make the position of commander an officer? If we need more sergeants then why more officers? Let's look at the US Army, how many military universities are there? And what armed forces? Why do they cope with so many? The secret is in recruiting civilians and sergeants
  82. 0
    14 June 2024 11: 02
    Would you also try to explain why those who actually work with personnel, are on combat duty, do not leave the training grounds, and with the same rank, have less money than those who have a normal working day and do not get off their chairs in the office?