Heckler & Koch will develop weapons for Soviet cartridges

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Heckler & Koch will develop weapons for Soviet cartridges
Intermediate cartridge 7,62x39 mm


The German company Heckler & Koch plans to enter new markets and attract new potential customers. To achieve this, they are going to expand the range of manufactured small arms. weapons all classes. New modifications of existing products will be developed, designed for Soviet / Russian-style cartridges. It is expected that such measures will lead to increased interest from buyers and improve the company's financial performance.



New calibers


Heckler & Koch's new plans to expand its product line were revealed on May 14 by the German publication Welt. The publication received information of this kind from unnamed representatives of the enterprise. Basic ideas, premises and solutions are reported, but precise plans for expanding weapons development and production have not yet been published.

According to Welt, the Heckler-Koch company will continue to produce weapons chambered for NATO standards, and this area will remain a priority. At the same time, modifications of such systems will be developed for USSR / Warsaw Pact cartridges. The company believes that there is a need in the market for such products, and they want to make money on it.

At the moment, the company is studying the proposed concept, determining its prospects and conducting preliminary research. In the future, full-fledged design work should begin, as a result of which updated weapon models will appear. Exactly which products from the current product line will be rebuilt for the new cartridges, and when this will happen, Heckler & Koch and Welt do not specify.


Heckler & Koch HK 433 automatic rifle chambered for the NATO cartridge 5,56x45 mm

In the context of market needs, Welt refers to the experience of Ukrainian armed forces. Despite the supply of foreign weapons for NATO ammunition, incl. Heckler-Koch products, militants of the Kyiv regime continue to use Soviet weapons and corresponding ammunition. Heckler & Koch believes that this situation shows the need to develop new weapons for Soviet ammunition.

The armies and security forces of different countries that retain the Soviet range of ammunition are considered as future buyers of new weapons. There are plenty of customers of this kind in Asia, Africa and Latin America, and Heckler & Koch plans to meet their needs for modern weapons without having to rebuild the entire weapons system. In addition, modified samples will be offered to civilian buyers in different countries, primarily in the USA.

Financial Prerequisites


In its article about Heckler & Koch's new plans, Welt draws attention to the company's financial statements for 2023. The company's operating results last year were mixed, and some indicators fell noticeably. At the same time, the company’s management does not see anything terrible in this situation. A drop in performance is called a respite before the next stage of growth.

Last year, Heckler-Koch supplied customers with products worth 301 million euros, which is slightly less than the results of 2022. The volume of orders for the year decreased by 11%, to 285 million euros. At the same time, the company notes that demand for its products has remained almost unchanged. Consolidated profit decreased from 50,6 million euros to 28,7 million euros.

In 2022, about 43% of the German company's products went to the United States, mainly to the civilian market. Last year, 2023, the share of exports to the United States dropped to 37%. At the same time, sales on the German domestic market increased - from 21 to 23%.


Product HK 132E using a Soviet intermediate cartridge

Overall, last year was not the most successful for Heckler & Koch. However, the company continues to operate and is looking for new customers. In recent months, it has received a number of lucrative contracts from the armies and other structures of European countries. This is expected to improve the performance of the current year 2024 and bring the overall results into positive territory.

Obviously, the idea of ​​​​developing new modifications of weapons for Soviet cartridges is directly related to the unsuccessful last year. With these products, Heckler & Koch wants to attract new customers outside of its traditional markets. Their contracts will help offset the decline in sales in the US and Europe, as well as improve the company's position as a whole.

Adaptation issues


It should be noted that Heckler & Koch already has experience adapting its weapons to Soviet-style cartridges. Design problems of this kind were previously solved in two projects. At the same time, as far as we know, both resulting samples were generally not of interest to buyers.

The first attempt to use Soviet ammunition took place back in the fifties. Then the Heckler-Koch company presented the HK 32 automatic rifle and its shortened version, the HK 32K. In essence, it was the well-known G3 rifle, rebuilt for the 7,62x39 mm cartridge. The abandonment of a powerful rifle cartridge made it possible to improve accuracy and accuracy, although it reduced the firing range.

The development company entered the HK 32 rifle into several foreign competitions, but did not achieve the desired results. According to various sources, it was possible to receive only one order for a limited batch of rifles. Due to lack of demand, Heckler & Koch stopped promoting this weapon in the sixties.


One of the variants of the HK 32 rifle

A new attempt to redesign an existing product was made in the recent past. Last December, Heckler-Koch presented the HK 132E automatic rifle, based on the serial HK 433. The basic product uses the standard NATO cartridge 5,56x45 mm, and the new model is designed for 7,62x39 mm. The company is now looking for customers and is probably preparing to participate in competitions.

The Heckler & Koch product catalog contains a range of small arms of all major classes, from pistols to machine guns. The company already has experience in adapting rifles for the Soviet intermediate cartridge and can use it when creating new projects of this kind. In addition, existing developments can be expanded to other classes. In particular, it is possible to create modifications of machine guns chambered for the 7,62x54 mm R rifle cartridge, which is also popular around the world.

Obvious difficulties


It should be expected that the implementation of the proposed concept and the development of updated weapons will encounter various difficulties. There may be technical and economic difficulties due to which development will be delayed and commercial results may not meet expectations.

First of all, you need to take into account that rebuilding a weapon for a new cartridge always involves reworking its main parts. A finished design optimized for a specific ammunition cannot always be changed without compromises and risks. At the same time, the tactical and technical characteristics and reliability of the resulting sample may be insufficient.

The commercial prospects of such rifles and machine guns are also questionable. They are going to be sold, first of all, to foreign armies using Soviet-style weapons. However, there is no guarantee that such potential customers will actually want to buy Heckler & Koch products and change their weapons system, even while maintaining existing cartridges.


The MG5 machine gun using the 5,56x45 mm cartridge is a potential candidate for rebuilding

In addition, competition must be taken into account. Some of the countries that Heckler-Koch is paying attention to continue to cooperate with Russian or Chinese weapons manufacturers. For them to change the main supplier, serious arguments will be required in the form of decisive technical or economic advantages. Whether Heckler & Koch will be able to provide them is unknown.

Promising projects are also considered from the point of view of the civilian market, and in this case problems should also be expected. The fact is that the bulk of Soviet-style cartridges are on foreign markets, incl. in the USA and Germany, supplied by Russian companies. Sanctions against our enterprises led to a halt in such supplies and to a deterioration in the situation on foreign ammunition markets. Foreign manufacturers cannot fully replace the lost part of supplies, which leads to understandable negative consequences of various kinds. In such a situation, Heckler-Koch rifles chambered for the Soviet cartridge can hardly count on commercial success.

Big plans


Heckler & Koch, like many other German companies, has faced serious difficulties in the last year or two, and its financial performance has fallen markedly. In this regard, we have to look for new markets and new buyers. For this purpose, it is proposed to expand the range of products, and through the implementation of an interesting and seemingly promising idea.

In the near future, Heckler-Koch will have to develop and introduce new modifications of weapons for Soviet / Russian cartridges. Then they will be brought to the market and begin to look for buyers. How successful this process will be is unknown. So far there are reasons for both positive and negative forecasts.
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  1. +7
    17 May 2024 04: 03
    Hecklers are certainly serious guys.
    1. +6
      17 May 2024 06: 00
      Yes, for sure, I think their barrels are the best on the world arms market.
      1. +4
        17 May 2024 06: 28
        At one time I was in the UAE at a conference and exhibition. So, the Emirates let it slip that they are working hard with the Hecklerites and the guys from Haenel to create their own national assault rifle. The Hecklerites advise them and so on. But they didn’t say or show what kind of karamultuk they had.
        1. -5
          17 May 2024 09: 48
          (As a joke) The guys prepare in advance. They understand that soon Russia will reach the English Channel laughing
          Or maybe not a joke wassat
        2. 0
          11 July 2024 00: 14
          Why do the Emirates have their own national rifle? With their army... Or will it be a rifle for the faithful?
          1. 0
            11 July 2024 05: 32
            As they themselves say, sooner or later they will run out of oil. And then you can’t live on tourism alone. So they are trying to expand production. Including weapons, at least rifles. Again, they planned to build a water desalination plant. They understand that freebies with oil cannot be endless.
            1. 0
              11 July 2024 06: 28
              This is roughly what I meant by "rifle for the faithful". Entering the international market and creating demand for your own rifle is not easy now. With such plans, it will be easier for the Emirates to buy H&K itself, at least part of it, and make a profit from it. Let's say, open a branch there, at least...
      2. -2
        17 May 2024 08: 26
        They may be excellent, but there is such a thing as “price-quality ratio”. If the price tag is crazy, then who will buy it?
    2. +8
      17 May 2024 10: 48
      Quote: Alien From
      Hecklers are certainly serious guys.

      Yeah... even if they make mistakes, they do so in strict accordance with the Customer’s specifications. smile
      Pomnitsa, the Bundeswehr tried to attack HundK with claims for the accuracy of the army G36, whose barrel was set in a plastic receiver that softened during prolonged shooting. In response, the army men poked their noses at their own technical specifications and were asked to indicate the inconsistencies of the products with this technical specifications.
      On September 2, 2016, the Koblenz court issued its verdict against the arms manufacturer, according to which the Bundeswehr can only blame itself. According to the judges, Heckler & Koch clearly fulfilled the terms of the terms of reference prepared by the German Ministry of Defense. Thus, there can be no claims against the manufacturer. That is, the Bundeswehr Arms Directorate should have formulated its demands more precisely.
  2. +1
    17 May 2024 04: 41
    It's called "empty". Yes, they themselves understand this. They will not invest.
    1. +3
      17 May 2024 04: 52
      In general, it’s clearly for the European market, Africa is too poor to buy HK in mass quantities... Most likely 404 is an idea, like nata weapons, prestige and all that... and the cartridges are native Soviet... Although I wouldn’t mind touch 33 at 5,45 feel
      1. 0
        19 May 2024 22: 58
        Quote from Enceladus
        In general, clearly for the European market

        To India.
        1. +1
          20 May 2024 00: 52
          Well, yes, prance with HK....
  3. +7
    17 May 2024 04: 45
    It’s strange, there Brandon and Matt are complaining that in the states they really shut down the market for cheap Soviet cartridges (Romanian, Bulgarian, not to mention ours)... and even before the SVO. And that they are massively switching back to AR-15 because it’s expensive to sit on ours... although to be honest, the quality of TPZ or Barnaul.... it’s hard to call it cartridges lol
    1. 0
      18 May 2024 13: 18
      Barnaul has normal quality.
      1. +2
        18 May 2024 16: 52
        Can you tell me about individual calibers?
        1. +1
          19 May 2024 05: 02
          7.62x39 makes Barnaul excellent. What are your complaints about him? I have been using their products for twenty years and I am satisfied.
          1. +3
            19 May 2024 08: 24
            The fact of the matter is that “our” calibers are more or less and the quality, yes, right now is better just in the last “20 years”. I won’t argue here... but it’s generally difficult to screw up the same 7,62x54R, because Welted cartridge. lol
            But not ours, which appeared in great abundance... let’s take the 7,62 chassis, for example .308, .30-06 (since carbines and cartridges are cheaper for them) - classic problems.
            1. Case overhang - sometimes up to 1,5!!! mm - which leads to liner inflation or rupture
            2. Gunpowder - differs from theirs in characteristics and for the worse because of which, taking into account point 1. Even within a pack the speed fluctuates. Maybe at 100-300 meters this is not critical, but for those who like to shoot at 500+ meters, the bullet varies significantly in height and produces not a circle, but an ellipse quite elongated in height. And such carbines are bought not just for hunting, but for long-range shooting and keeping in shape, so to speak.
            3. even in one pack you can see cartridges from different batches... how is this even possible??? is it normal??? You can immediately tell by the cartridge case that they were made at different times. and by the height (again, the cartridge case protrusion and how the bullets are recessed)
            1. +1
              19 May 2024 09: 08
              Well, maybe for a high point these cartridges are not so hot. To be honest, I don't shoot further than 300 meters. And I don't collect piles. I categorically don't like the cartridges of the Ulyanovsk plant - the powder is very dirty and apparently burns very poorly. Barnaul is not bad for hunting.
  4. +1
    17 May 2024 06: 02
    According to Welt, the Heckler-Koch company will continue to produce weapons chambered for NATO standards, and this area will remain a priority. At the same time, modifications of such systems will be developed for USSR / Warsaw Pact cartridges. The company believes that there is a need in the market for such products, and they want to make money on it.
    Some strange story... maybe they want to make extra money on government contracts for supplies from Germany for the Armed Forces of Ukraine... then why can’t they keep NATO calibers... request
  5. 0
    17 May 2024 06: 47
    The management of Heckler & Koch apparently had the idea of ​​​​creating weapons for the “Soviet” cartridge against the backdrop of the Ukrainian conflict. It is clear that the company, intending to develop new markets, plans to displace Russian small arms. And they thought through to the end the option for selling their products, because... Will those who are armed with Soviet (Russian) small arms today agree to buy expensive German ones? And these are mostly poor countries that cannot afford to “throw away” a proven and reliable AK and buy a German one, albeit from a company highly ranked on the arms market. But these are problems exclusively for the company.
    1. -3
      17 May 2024 08: 25
      German products were expensive before, but in the current economic realities, they can even become golden.
  6. 0
    17 May 2024 07: 38
    Probably the Germans are planning an attempt to squeeze out markets that traditionally focus on weapons chambered for the Soviet type of cartridge. At the first stage, they will accustom to Western weapons, at the second stage, they will talk about replacing the cartridge, especially since it has become not so cheap now, and its quality does not reach the Soviet one.
  7. -7
    17 May 2024 08: 23
    Developing a new weapon for an old cartridge is a so-so idea.
  8. +6
    17 May 2024 08: 24
    It's just that guys create modifications to their weapons for users with a large number of other cartridges. The AK-101 and similar modifications chambered for the NATO cartridge were created for the same purpose
  9. +2
    17 May 2024 11: 13
    Quote: TermNachTER
    Developing a new weapon for an old cartridge is a so-so idea.

    If the country has a cartridge factory built by the USSR, but there is no production of Kalashnikovs, then the Germans can get in with their weapons.
  10. +1
    17 May 2024 11: 41
    The Americans began producing Soviet small arms, the Germans began producing their weapons under the Soviet cartridge. However, the trend is.
    Probably businessmen got wind of something and are trying to make money.
  11. AB
    0
    17 May 2024 12: 54
    It would be interesting to see their civilian versions at reasonable prices.
  12. Owl
    0
    17 May 2024 19: 35
    The question will arise: “cost - efficiency - reliability”. Tests for the reliability of the products in extreme conditions, carried out by specialists from various countries leading in the development of weapons (USSR, USA, etc.), showed that on the first day almost all weapons (AK, M-16, etc.) ) works equally reliably, on the second day, without cleaning and lubrication - with AKs there are delays when firing, for other models - delays when firing increase exponentially, on the third and next days - the situation progresses. If you buy Heckler-Koch, in the amount of 500-1000 pieces for a parade crew, it’s normal, but to arm combat units at war, sacrifice them. Israeli special forces, when working for up to 1 day, took M-4s; when going on longer combat missions, they took GDR AKs.
  13. +2
    17 May 2024 19: 58
    Apparently the Germans are seriously worried about the successes of Sig-Sauer with their MCX-SPEAR LT chambered for 7,62x39. :)
  14. -1
    17 May 2024 20: 02
    Quote: Eagle Owl
    Israeli special forces, when working for up to 1 day, took M-4s; when going on longer combat missions, they took GDR AKs.

    They have strange rules there, in Israel... They probably find time to eat/sleep, but have no time to clean the machine gun...
    1. Owl
      +3
      17 May 2024 22: 55
      Forgive me for the question, have you been in a situation of fighting with a dirty machine gun, with a machine gun covered in clay? Did you pull the bolt carrier back with the butt on the ground and your foot hitting the charging handle? Personally, I had only one case of an AK-74M failure, the bolt frame was warped by an explosion, I (according to the words of those repaired) tried to open fire until I lost consciousness. Visit it and you will understand.
  15. 0
    17 May 2024 23: 08
    Quote: Macsen_Wledig
    Apparently the Germans are seriously worried about the successes of Sig-Sauer with their MCX-SPEAR LT chambered for 7,62x39. :)


    Yes, it looks like their toad has eaten them.
  16. +1
    18 May 2024 12: 47
    The AR15 chambered for 5,45x39 was presented in the Russian Federation a long time ago. The 7,62x39 is a more difficult matter - it is more powerful and is produced by a bunch of countries with different quality... and Western systems like quality ammunition.
    By the way, the AR15 at 5,45 is the main idea for the civilian market for fans of the AR15 and a cheap cartridge similar in ballistics.
  17. +1
    19 May 2024 19: 25
    IMHO, such projects arise long before announcements and leaks in the media, and for a specific strategy or sales. Where would it be easiest and for what to sell a large batch of these rifles in the near future? Yes, in 404, because she hurries to NATO, dropping her panties and slippers, plus she agrees to everything just to play a foreign tchotchke. Here are the sales that will pay for the program, and with (the success of the whole with Donbass and Crimea) you can go to the whole world under the sauce of the Russians, it’s outdated, take ours! The issue of providing ammunition is also not unimportant - NATO’s ammunition production capacity will not be enough to quickly provide, not to the detriment of itself, the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ needs for NATO cartridges, but there are mountains of them in warehouses instead. Then you can gradually build new factories and bring everything to the same NATO model by replacing and selling conventional rifles and resell these. Profit. But something went wrong and the project will apparently stall at the stage of delivery of small batches.
  18. 0
    10 June 2024 14: 42
    I recently shot Chinese 7.62 x 39 cartridges from the SKS. Out of 20 rounds - 2 misfires. Those. marriage - 10%. It’s one thing at the shooting range, and another at the theater of operations
  19. 0
    1 July 2024 18: 18
    MG5 machine gun chambered for 5,56x45 mm - a potential candidate for restructuring
    The Czech Army purchased these machine guns. Well, that’s their problem, but for some reason it seems to me, and the practice of fighting in Ukraine shows that this caliber is not enough for practical combat. But this is a divided opinion. Friends, what is your opinion about this cartridge, is it satisfactory? I think no. am
  20. 0
    11 July 2024 22: 01
    How many Kalash under the NATO cartridge have been sold?
  21. 0
    15 August 2024 12: 57
    Quote from Enceladus
    Let's take the 7,62 chassis, for example .308, .30-06 (since carbines and cartridges are cheaper for them) - the problems are classic.

    I'll add about steel bullets. You can't shoot them from a decent weapon - it's a shame for the barrel.
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