The rocket that came from the cold (the official recognition of Russian superiority by the Americans)

February 15 2013

Everyone remembers what the struggle for technology was from the first days of the rocket era. It just so happened that initially German designers succeeded in rocket production; and even in the days of bloody battles, when the Red Army and the allies, overcoming the desperate resistance of the Nazis, were advancing deep into Germany, the specialists were already faced with the task of finding everything related to the technology of the FAA secret project.

With the beginning of the space age in the USSR and the USA nothing more closed than the national secrets of creating rockets existed. Rocketry has become the main criterion of the military power of states and their membership in the circle of superpowers.

How did it happen that the country that first discovered space, launched an astronaut, delivered moon rovers to the Moon and created space stations - lost this race in the end?

You can, of course, nod to perestroika and the collapse of the country that followed it; a sharp reduction in funds for the space program. But the reason is not only underfunding. In the years of the Great Patriotic War, it was even more difficult - however, we won the technical race with the Reich.

The unique documentary film “The Rocket that Came from the Cold”, released in the US in 2001, reveals the veil on this issue.

“Unique” - because it never occurred to the Americans even to somehow disguise the facts of the direct, in my opinion, betrayal of Russia's national interests by a number of people involved in its cosmic secrets. (Obviously, the directors were sure that our capitulation to the West was irreversible).

This is an amazing technology for American designers of the "closed type" of the NK-33 rocket engines, designed by S. Kuznetsov for the H-1 carrier in Samara according to the Soviet "lunar program".

This is what the American experts themselves say about this:

- This engine ... led to the revision of all US space technologies ...

- ... We did not know such technologies ...

-... These are the best engines on the planet. Western scientists considered this technology impossible ...

-... This level in the United States was considered impossible ...

The authors of the film do not hide the fact that they learned about its existence from intelligence.

The American film demonstrates the footage of how their MBR, potentially “aimed at Russia,” conducts a successful test launch.

When launching this ICBM, an imposing Russian representative is present, whom I identify as Yu.N. Koptev, head of Rosaviakosmos. (He later received a lot of accusations of prematurely flooding the Soviet Mir space station - not without persistent recommendations from the American "partners").

Russian specialist at the start of an American combat missile equipped with our engine? Who is crazy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LV1k1PlpE9k

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Vanek 15 February 2013 07: 05
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Our car industry may not be very good, with electric goods it is also not okay. But the most important thing is on top, our safety.

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- Western scientists considered this technology impossible ...
1. esaul 15 February 2013 07: 14
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  Good morning to all.
  Bitterly to tears, all that you learn from this article. The most important lesson from all this is the repetition of such a scale of betrayal, weakening the security of the country so much, it is impossible to forgive in any way, like betrayal in this sphere
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    Quote: esaul
    like betrayal in this domain - in general
    
    In my opinion, she said there for mistakes ...... But if you rephrase:
    
    “They do not forgive betrayal, they atone for it with blood!”
    
    Valery
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    Quote: esaul
    The most important lesson from all this is the repetition of such a scale, betrayal, weakening the security of the country so much, it is impossible to forgive in any way, like betrayal in this area - in general
    Hello Valery! Betrayal, which was also called business yesterday ... We sold almost all scientific developments of the Soviet era for American rubles ... and sold second-hand prices.
    It was for this that the KGB was dispersed, the army and the police destroyed ...
    And now the task (in connection with the restoration of power structures) is to get money out of the country and escape to some sort of London ... Catch and land in full, without regard to public and world opinion ...
    1. esaul 15 February 2013 08: 12
      
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      Seryozha, my respect
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      The betrayal, which was also called business yesterday ...
      
      Now, it seems, they are starting to call everything by their proper names ...
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      We sold almost all scientific developments of the Soviet era for American rubles ... moreover, we sold second-hand at prices.
      
      But now the lafa for the striped parasite is over. Therefore, it wriggles ...
      1. alexng 15 February 2013 09: 07
        
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        Yes, this Lafa especially was not. It is one thing to get data and even samples, and quite another thing to reproduce all this. As someone who was talking on a business trip with one person, more precisely, with the head of an armored personnel carrier factory in the territory of Slovakia. They sold all this technology to India and even built a plant for the Indians, and India did not succeed in normal APCs. There is always a zest in any business, without which the whole idea is not worth cloning a dedicated egg. And here is another example from my personal practice. In the dashing nineties in our creative group developed a cryptograph, i.e. data encryption system. So the person who did the encryption and decryption core itself, as well as was engaged in its optimization, later admitted that he realized only a year later how it all works.
        
        123dv 15 February 2013 10: 54
        
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        Absolutely charming remark.
        Everything ingenious is so simple that it is impossible to understand it with the mind, but only to agree ....
    2. Was mammoth 15 February 2013 08: 22
      
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      Quote: older
      The betrayal, which was also called business yesterday ...
      
      Why yesterday? Taburetkin and others like him. Treason to the Motherland is called a financial crime and is carried out in a very "humane" way, unlike some Vasya who stole a bag of potatoes without any electric current, gas mask and bottles.
    3. Vadivak 15 February 2013 08: 50
      
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      We are for American rubles
      
      We? Sergey is not necessary for everyone. And these engines are not Russian and Soviet, and are not produced in Russia. And the fact that it is planned so for the deadlines they give, strict regime
    4. Nickanor 15 February 2013 08: 54
      
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      Yes, for such cases do not plant, but it is necessary to shoot!
      1. alexng 15 February 2013 11: 07
        
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        Nope, it’s not humane to shoot, you just need to bring in a thread a hot spot, and then an unforeseen set of circumstances. And that’s it. All questions will disappear on their own. In addition, blame everything on Western intelligence agencies trying to cover their tracks.
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    such a scale of betrayal, so weakening the country's security, can not be forgiven in any way
    
    It has long been time to supplement the view from the Kremlin with a decent series of various kinds of personalities, guilty of treason, picturesquely hung on the gallows.
    The deputy approached the window and looked out - and immediately remembered why and for whom he was working here.
    1. Black Colonel 15 February 2013 11: 04
      
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      In my opinion, in ancient Persia, the judge was sitting in a chair covered with the worn leather of his predecessor, caught in bribes. It would not be sick to carry out such a practice with respect to responsible sovereign servants, so that it wouldn’t be mischievous in the future!
  4. Kite 15 February 2013 20: 29
    
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    Yesaul, do not be discouraged right away to tears! The author writes about technologies inaccessible to Americans, and the fact cites the use of a rocket engine sold by him. Maybe you need to clarify ?? Did they sell the technology? (example: Amers do not own the technology for welding titanium, but we order parts from titanium for Boeing from us)
    I remember they wrote more than 10 years ago that the already-made rocket engines that did not find application were partially sold to amers for use in peaceful missiles. Compare if there is a difference - the product and the technology of its manufacture: we buy Intel processors, but there is no way to do this in the country, we sell the S-300, but not the license (design documentation) for its production, etc.
    PS: weld a fence or a garage and I can make a homemade weld. apparatus and electrodes from the store, but I won’t be upset for welding the main gas pipeline!
2. Pit 15 February 2013 07: 16
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  Quote: Vanek
  But the most important thing is on top, our safety. If: - Western scientists considered this technology impossible ...
  
  Is our security at the height if the officials, and not the locals, are selling secret technologies openly.
  For this you need not just to plant, but to the count, and the whole family!
  1. Vanek 15 February 2013 07: 25
    
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    If I am not mistaken, they could not copy it. I mean the engine. So that ...........
    
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    1. Pit 15 February 2013 07: 37
      
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      Quote: Vanek
      If I am not mistaken, they could not copy it.
      
      And this is essentially not important, the fact of betrayal is important.
      
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      1. Vanek 15 February 2013 07: 48
        
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        Quote: Pit
        the fact of betrayal is important.
        
        No comment.
    2. esaul 15 February 2013 07: 59
      
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      Ivan
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      If I am not mistaken, they could not copy it.
      
      You are not mistaken, countryman. Not so long ago there was an infa that they bought another batch of RD from Russia.
      At the same time, there was an infa about the fact that they could not repeat NK-33, and that we had a new engine, more filpers.
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        Quote: esaul
        At the same time, there was an infa about the fact that they could not repeat the NK-33, and that we had a new dvigun, more filpersovy.
        
        EVERYTHING!!!
        
        I think further discussions on this topic are pointless.
    3. 123dv 15 February 2013 11: 02
      
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      They could not only not copy, but, as far as I remember, an agreement was signed on not reproducing the layout itself until such and such a year.
      Among other things, the materials themselves are by and large irreproducible, or difficult to reproduce.
  2. older 15 February 2013 08: 05
    
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    Quote: Pit
    Is our security at the height if the officials, and not the locals, are selling secret technologies openly.
    In principle, there is an explanation .. But I must say right away, my opinion is pure ... The engine was shown to the Americans simply because we already have better samples. But the fact that the new technologies were most likely given out by a flaw in intelligence, or the victory of American intelligence .. .
    Why do I think so? Yes, simply because as soon as any of the specimens is declassified, it turns out that a bunch of completely unknown discoveries and inventions were applied there ....
3. Armata 15 February 2013 08: 45
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  Hello everyone. Damn canceled all flights due to the fact that a meteorite passed over the entire Urals. Fell in Chelyabinsk. We are waiting for new ones.
  1. Alexander Romanov 15 February 2013 08: 49
    
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    . Damn canceled all flights due to the fact that a meteorite passed over the entire Urals
    
    So now in Russia they call board number 1
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    Fell in Chelyabinsk
    
    Yeah, Putin came to Chelyabinsk.
    Hi Zhenya.
    1. Armata 15 February 2013 08: 55
      
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      Not Sanya seriously. A rummage in the internet. They say that the tail was even seen in Novosib. Really announced. He watched from the window. Sorry I did not take the camera. They say that if it weren’t for the fragments and the whole figured it wouldn’t have happened already in 9-00 in the local Ural Federal District.
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        An explosion occurred in the sky over the Urals
        According to eyewitnesses, an airplane exploded over Chelyabinsk. According to them, there was an outbreak and a blast wave broke glass in buildings. Currently, people are being evacuated from buildings, as well as children from schools. All cellular communications have disappeared in the city, Interfax notes
        
        Meanwhile, reports of an outbreak in the sky come to the SMS portal of our radio station also from Kurgan, Yekaterinburg and the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Area. Messages also come to our forum. Here, for example, from a user who signed up Dmitry Tkachenko: “Guys! 20 minutes ago in Kurgan I saw with my own eyes a comet entering the atmosphere! At first it looked like a signal rocket, then it got brighter and bigger ... over the horizon (like over the roofs of houses) exploded, bright red small pieces flew in different directions, and the trace remained like a jet plane for about five minutes in the sky ... ”
        
        As ITAR-TASS was told by the Ministry of Emergency Situations in the Sverdlovsk Region, “perhaps these are meteors. “We collect all the information,” the agency said. Recall, it was previously reported that an asteroid, the diameter of which is comparable to half a football field, should pass by Earth today.
        
        Ren 15 February 2013 09: 51
        
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        I personally saw that it didn’t look like an airplane, it’s very bright, even blinded, a huge tail from the smoke, after 3-5 minutes, it was covered with a blast wave, the building shook, the judges in gowns ran out into the street, the glass in many buildings was knocked out, many really fearfully
      2. older 15 February 2013 09: 44
        
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        They say that the tail was even seen in Novosib.
        He was walking with a dog at this time ... In Western Siberia, no tails flew across the sky I wonder where he could have drawn, if astronomers didn’t predict anything like that. Maybe you yourself pressed the wrong thread on the wrong button?
  2. older 15 February 2013 09: 42
    
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    Damn canceled all flights due to the fact that a meteorite passed over the entire Urals. Fell in Chelyabinsk. We are waiting for new ones.
    Zhenya, why the hell is a meteorite? In the Urals, and so on, minerals are higher than the roof You need to be more modest;
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      Dear, what the hell is a meteorite? In the Urals, and so on, minerals above the roof You should be more modest, dear
      Hi guys. That take his health. We do not need nafig. The entire Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Urals already flew to look for him, where he shied away. Departures are prohibited, from Chelyabinsk all flights for landing go to us. In short, there is a panic team in the city. And I didn’t have time to go to Moscow. They called and canceled the departure.
Denis 15 February 2013 07: 10
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This is known without them, we are proud!
But when the enemy scolds, everything is clear. But when he praises ...
Something is not right, one must not yawn!
1. Zubr 15 February 2013 08: 06
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  Right! Trying to put to sleep vigilance ...
Renat 15 February 2013 07: 16
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Well, where is this traitor now? Why not punished? Redeemed, hid? Trotsky also tried.
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  I know they put one test engineer from Plesetsk, for 13 years, he gave secret information to the tsrushchiks, why I don’t understand why they didn’t shoot on the spot ...
2. Alexander Romanov 15 February 2013 07: 37
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  Quote: Renat
  Well, where is this traitor now?
  
  He lives in a mansion and is probably reading this article now, smiling slightly at our comments.
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  Trotsky also tried.
  
  wrong time
  1. Renat 15 February 2013 07: 44
    
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    Time is always that. Decisiveness is not enough.
    1. Alexander Romanov 15 February 2013 07: 54
      
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      Time is always that. Decisiveness is not enough.
      
      Do you think that to give the order to be taken out to the forest and to quietly bury the corpse under the birch need a lot of determination? This was in the 90s and so the lads acted.
      Pozhyznyak with the complete confiscation of the property of not only the traitor, but also relatives. Economic means are often more effective.
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        I meant there was no determination to give the command to pick up the ice ax. And not quiet. And so that everyone knows.
        
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        give the command to pick up the ice ax.
        
        There isn’t enough ice picks for all this ... Yes, and that’s not the point. Anecdote: Russia-Germany football, grandfather and Georgians watch, our godlessly lose, grandfather:
        -And at 45 we piled on them like that!
        -Eh, then the trainer was different
        
        this is just about:
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        no determination
        
        times are different "panimaesh"
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    For GRU, times are always the same ...
Masterzserg 15 February 2013 07: 28
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Thinking people in Russia, every first philosopher, and prudent in America. These two qualities will always alternately overtake each other. But in the end, those who think will win, although the prudent will doubt it. That's just the traitors need to hang)
Che 15 February 2013 07: 39
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Russian specialist at the start of an American combat missile equipped with our engine? Who is crazy?

EBN with a hunchback gone crazy? No, they just trite sold their homeland. They have no forgiveness from our generation or from the future, if they survive. And I believe that we will stand and survive this national shame.
fight 15 February 2013 07: 46
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an article is licked. a similar one has just been published. Plagiarism
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  And here most of the articles are taken from any sources ..
_Igor_ 15 February 2013 07: 51
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Negotiations with North Korea on large-scale technical projects ended in failure. The problem is that North Korean officials do not understand well the words "kickback", "bribe". The words "rastrel", "prison with confiscation", which are out of fashion in Russia, are in use there.
ziqzaq 15 February 2013 08: 04
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Humpbacked, Ebn ki there are simply no words, but there is another creature that has crawled to us since those "nasty" years - the Chubais-siliter. The worst thing is that almost everyone who sold the country now in chocolate, and the patriots are imprisoned. This thought alone causes some kind of mental pain .........
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  Yes, in chocolate. But we were assured that if they steal a bag of potatoes, they would also go to jail.
djon3volta 15 February 2013 08: 11
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Moment of Truth 11.02.2013
- What can the Russian armed forces be proud of today?

I advise you to watch, I love Karaulov.
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  Of course, it’s interesting, however (!) To someone, but I'm sad : running late.....
  True PR, sipping ...
  
  PS The last third is pure "snow for the Eskimos"
- = ALEX = - 15 February 2013 08: 46
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Not a rocket that came from the cold, but an engine that came from the cold (The Engine That Came In From The Cold). Yes, sometimes unique things were created in the USSR. But you can’t go far on nostalgia and past Soviet merits and backlogs. How is it in Russia now?
1. Alexander Romanov 15 February 2013 08: 54
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  Quote: - = ALEX = -
  How is it in Russia now?
  
  Yes, thank God, production and design are being restored.
  What about you?
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    Everything is fine with us, Brazil is completing a cosmodrome and Kazakhstan, after it withdraws part of the bikonur from the Russian lease, will launch Zeniths.
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      Everything is fine with us, in Brazil a cosmodrome is being completed
      
      Uh, and what does Brazil have to do with it, how many years you have been building all this there is understandable. I ask how things are in Ukraine?
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      Kazakhstan, after it withdraws part of the Baikonur from under the Russian lease, will launch Zeniths.
      
      In Kazakhstan, build zeniths and engines yes
      Do not withdraw, do not worry
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Honestly, we will not be able to appreciate the scale of betrayal that occurred during perestroika and in the 90s. Even now, the feeling is that they are monstrous. And after 30 years, they will look disastrous.
How many technologies have flowed ... great scientific and engineering solutions. How many programs were minimized and destroyed. Russian genius sold west for 30 pieces of silver. And the worst thing is that there are people who sing praises to both Gorbatom and Yeltsin, as if what they were doing was a great blessing to Russia.
I would like to ask all these admirers ...... when was this a betrayal of the interests of our own people, was it good for him?
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  And the worst thing is that there are people who sing praises and Gorbatom and Yeltsin,
  
  So one must explain to prove not with empty words but with facts and figures.
  It is necessary to show what is not obvious to them, but it has already become obvious to us.
  It is necessary to remove from the eyes these "golden petals" that cover their view.
  
  However, a full hungry one does not understand!
  
  It is very good that the thirst for the golden calf passes. This phase shift in the heads gradually returns to its normal position!
  Short-term clouding in the heads, the dream of becoming a mulller, turned out to be stupid - foolishness!
  
  The main thing now is to leave convincing evidence to descendants for edification in order to warn them against the next attempts to breed, to suck dope in the head. Well and adequately answer the Anglo-Saxons.
  But as ? if we are not charged with meanness, deception, cheating.
  
  Moreover, if we see the plight of the bending Sysyashka we rush to save her, we will give the last cracker.
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Somewhere closer to 2005-2006, I watched a film about the NK-33 on the bourgeois either Discovery or another channel, and it was terribly disappointing that the government almost openly betrayed the interests of the motherland and merged everything over the hill. Until now, these people live and prosper as if nothing had happened, they speak beautiful speeches to the inhabitants of the inhabitants
1. Old skeptic 15 February 2013 12: 17
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  Even if amers receive the drawings, this does not mean that they will make it. Production technology, materials, control systems, no one transferred. The engines are sold old (there are many new ones on their basis), for specific projects, we know exactly what goals an engine is set for (do not forget about the engine’s own telemetry, how do you know what data it transmits about the operation of their missile systems, and who else besides them accepts it?). They sold the scrap and earned money for the further development of their own (do not forget that our entire defense industry in the 90s survived thanks to foreign customers).
  
  And in general, what kind of national inferiority complex is this, we already know that our engineers are the best, stop whining and chewing snot. We’ll make new ones, even cooler.
  
  And whiners like "our missiles began to fall often," I will say - missiles have fallen before without this, one cannot move in front, all the problems at the stand cannot be solved, all conditions cannot be provided. With the alliance, it was possible to make 12 test lunar rockets, so that the 13th flew with a person on board, now there are no such opportunities, they are working on innovations on the stands and forward, took off well, did not take off well too. Korolev also said that if a rocket flew right away, it was bad, because there would probably be some problems, and it would be better to immediately identify and systematically eliminate them.
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And why the Russian industry can not copy simple 2-core processors, and China the Russian aircraft engines?
And why did they put a liquid engine on a solid fuel ICBM? To increase energy efficiency?
CCA 15 February 2013 09: 27
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The rocket that came from the cold (the official recognition of Russian superiority by the Americans)
We would also have officially recognized the superiority of the USSR in the exploration of the moon ... Our moon rovers still shine through telescopes with their reflectors ...
Quote: Vanek
If I am not mistaken, they could not copy it. I mean the engine. So that ........
And they can’t ...
Tartary 15 February 2013 10: 04
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And for me it is still not too late, or rather the time itself, to punish these "merchants" who traded their homeland in troubled times.
There should be no statute of limitations for these scum and oblivion of their misconduct before Russia (USSR).
That Gorbachev, that his other associates, that went along the path of betrayal of the interests of the Motherland and the people, scientists, functionaries, and other villains, should be raked to the fullest.
korvin1976 15 February 2013 10: 32
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All this is of course interesting, betrayal and so on, although the development of engines has not been handed over to amers. And the engines are made in Russia. Well, okay, the question is different:
on Atlas which brought amers to the Moon there were 5 engines
1 NK30 engines were on our N33 rocket, Korolev calculated that less power would not be able to bring the ship to the moon and return it back.
Now the calculation: RD180 is 10 times more powerful than the Atlas engine, and RD180 is 33 times more powerful than the NK5. That is, the Atlas engine can be taken as unit (1), therefore RD180 - 10, and NK33 -2. There were 5 engines on the Atlas, therefore, the power of the Atlas will be 5, and now we calculate the power of H1 with 30 NK33 engines, and we get a power equal to 60. Somehow it does not converge, 5 for Atlas and 60 for H1. How did the amers with such power bring Atlas to the Moon and bring it back? I doubt very much that Korolev was mistaken in calculating the necessary power for flying to the moon and back.
Question: Maybe it’s true that the amers on the moon weren’t :)
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  Saturn-5 lunar launch vehicle (payload more than 100 tons), and Atlas was launched by Mercury spacecraft (payload weight 1,4 t)
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  Do not worry, the rocket was built to fly to Mars.
  And from the sawn parts made elements of farm buildings, and even a bus stop.
  Khrushchev didn’t need Mars, nor did the Moon either, since the Americans had already been there.
  There is nothing to carry the bonbs on, and you say outer space.
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a film was shown about this engine (2004-2005)

The American engine specialist said something like this:

- we know about such technologies and ourselves considered the principle of such a mixture of oxidizer and fuel during the lunar race, but were forced to abandon this principle because there were no materials and it was necessary to conduct expensive experiments. they chose the simplest and less heavily armed option.
- This engine - they use it because of high thrust-weight ratio and cheapness (they bought ready-made).

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"amazing for American designers technology of" closed type "rocket engines NK-33" - ????
can a closed-cycle engine with gas afterburning from a turbopump

And where does the launch of ICBMs go - the last liquid-launched ICBMs in the United States were in the 1960s (Titan, it seems). NK-33 bought for space launch vehicles.

NK-33 was created in the 60-70s for the N-1 rocket. In connection with the closure of the Soviet lunar program were unclaimed. On those 4 N-1s that were launched, the NK-15 stood on the 1st stage (as many as 30 pieces, since the thrust was insufficient). And the background of the Kuznetsov LRE is this. Korolev and Glushko quarreled and the first had to turn to Kuznetsov (Glushko at that time was fond of very effective fuels and oxidizing agents, but also very toxic like fluorine, and Korolev insisted on oxygen-kerosene and oxygen-hydrogen engines). Kuznetsov Design Bureau of rocket engines before was not engaged at all.

I do not think that the topic of betrayal is appropriate in this case. We sold finished products that had been in the warehouse for more than 20 years, but not finished products. In principle, the Americans can reproduce them at home, but how much will it cost money and time. Therefore, they will buy ready-made. And it is unprofitable for Russia to be a "dog in the manger".
1. kot11180 15 February 2013 13: 34
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  Maybe I'm wrong, but in my opinion amers sold the Energia engines, which seem to be the most powerful among the rocket engines.
2. 123dv 15 February 2013 17: 53
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  Well done, a sound answer.
  And guys - crucify him - accustomed to screaming!
  The plant was dying, there were no people left, there was no hope for anything.
  They managed to successfully sell goods that were completely unclaimed by anyone,
  revived production, attracted specialists, purchased new equipment, develop and launch new, much more powerful and modern engines. We are ready to work for the future and thereby ensure the future opportunities of the country!
  And just at this very interesting moment, the familiar always starts to sound from all sides - crucify, crucify him !!!
  Just an exercise for the vocal cords, you say?
  No, my friends. Examine the media field on this topic over the past month, and you will see that this is a specific bullying campaign. Not good. It is necessary to support the domestic manufacturer, and not drag it to the wall, as usual. Moreover, we also fly on its engines. Probably. If we do not kill each other from flashes of anger ...