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Pakistan offered Iran military support, and in the US they spoke of an “umbrella”

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In February, Washington introduced new economic sanctions against Iran. US Treasury заявило about reducing the list of countries that can buy oil from Iran. In addition, it is argued that the measures make it difficult for Tehran to access the proceeds from the sale of oil. At the same time, America imposed sanctions on the state television company IRIB. This company, according to the US Treasury, is guilty of censoring broadcasts, as well as broadcasting confessions of political prisoners received "under pressure."

To impose such sanctions on an ideal world democratizer like Washington does not in the least interfere with the existence of the infamous Guantanamo base and the enhanced torture activities of the CIA. Brennan, who replaced the disgraced Petraeus, being the third person in the CIA at the time, was well aware of the use of torture, including drowning (this one is favorite with Bush).

Of course, Brennan justified himself in front of the senators: they say, my field of activity was somewhat aloof from the gloomy butchery occupation, but this does not change the essence. The fact that great America is possible is impossible for others. Why? Because in America it turns out democratically, while for others - with deviations from the democratic canon. What are the deviations? With those that Iran, for example, is not America.

A representative of the Treasury Department therefore frankly stated that "as long as Iran does not respond to the concerns of the world community with its nuclear program, the United States will apply sanctions and increase economic pressure on the Iranian regime."

Washington will never accept such a state of affairs in which someone becomes, if not stronger than him, then rises to a new level of military-strategic, economic and further geopolitical power. After all, then America will lose the right to the strong.

And that's it. The boss is always right. The United States may have nuclear weapons, Iran - no. North Korea-either. It is advisable to disarm Russia to the very foundation (it’s a pity that the cause of the friendship of nations that Mikhail Sergeyevich so fervently preached, and then Boris Nikolayevich, is dying in Russia).

As for Iran, it seems that this country is nuclear weapon already received. Neither militant Israel nor the United States go there. Alone sanctions and aggressive rhetoric. To which Comrade Ahmadinejad responds quite adequately.

The other day, while visiting Cairo, he gave an interview to the Al-Ahram newspaper and saidthat Tehran has a nuclear potential, but it is exclusively defensive in nature.

After a five-second pause, the Iranian president advised the international community to treat Iran as a nuclear power, as such is the Islamic Republic. Claiming the peacefulness of the Iranian people, he noted that his country is not seeking a military confrontation with Israel and is not going to threaten the "Zionist enemy."

At the same time, the President of the Islamic Republic of Iran said that Israel would very much like to attack Iran and invade its territory, but the Zionists are afraid to do it: they fear consequences. "Those who helped create Israel have ceased to support it, and this indicates the imminent end of the occupation," he noted.

And the next day, February 7, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei refused to participate in negotiations with US representatives. With a clever reservation. Any negotiations on the normalization of relations between countries, in his opinion, can only go after the lifting of the US sanctions. According to Khamenei, the United States offers Iran to negotiate "at gunpoint," that is, through sanctions.

A day later, the new US Secretary of State, Mr. Kerry, spoke. At the first of his press conferences, he hurried to express readiness for a diplomatic solution to the problem. John Kerry She urged Iran makes the "right decision" on the nuclear program, on which the further development of relations between Western countries and Iran depends. Then he scared Ahmadinejad with “sanctions” and expressed hope that the Iranian authorities would provide a clear report on the nuclear program during the upcoming talks with the “six” mediating countries in Kazakhstan (25 or 26 in February). And then America will express its readiness for a diplomatic solution to the problem.

For now - sanctions. Sanctions, sanctions and more sanctions. In no way can Washington comprehend that sanctions, threats and aggressive rhetoric give the government of the “sanctioned” country and its spiritual leaders a ready-made image of the worst external enemy. And not an image, not an “image”, not a picture, - in fact, there is a real enemy here.

By the way, the US sanctions policy against Iran was condemned by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia. Comrade Lukashevich called it "counterproductive."

February 7 during the Moscow briefing Alexander Lukashevich, the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry сообщилthat Russia’s Iran’s negotiations with the “six” in Almaty will be represented by Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov. Answering the question of the Voice of Russia correspondent, the diplomat emphasized that the next US statement on sanctions came on the eve of important negotiations. Lukashevich called it "symptomatic" and reminded the Russian position on the imposition of sanctions: "Such a policy is counterproductive."

Against the background of the increasing Western sanctions policy, Iran began to economically come closer to Russia.

February 12 стало известноthat Iran offered Russian companies to take part in the development of their oil and gas fields. This was told to journalists by the Minister of Energy of the Russian Federation Alexander Novak. During his meeting with Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi, an agreement was reached on introducing amendments to Iranian legislation that would allow Russian companies to participate in Iranian hydrocarbon projects. Earlier, similar agreements Iran braked.

In November, 2009, Gazpromneft, and the National Iranian Oil Company signed a memorandum of understanding. The document assumed the joint work of Russian and Iranian experts in the development of Iranian oil fields Azar and Shangule. But in 2011, Iran refused to cooperate. The reason for termination of the agreement was called the draft Russian.

Analyst Utro.ru Yury Levykin explains the “return” of Iran by the desire of his government to overcome the difficult situation caused by the country's energy blockade: after all, the West decided to ban gas imports from Iran and, at the same time, export oil and gas equipment and tankers to the Islamic Republic. The EU has an oil embargo, which prohibits the import, purchase and transportation of Iranian oil and oil products to the EU. Prohibited and related financial and insurance operations.

Iranian oil and gas cooperation with the Russian Federation, the analyst believes, could contribute to a partial circumvention of sanctions - for example, in terms of the supply of oil and gas equipment. In addition, the oil produced in Iran can be supplied to the markets as Russian oil. This is also a way to circumvent Western sanctions.

According to Yu. Levykin, the anti-Western rhetoric that is growing in Russia could come to the Iranian leadership as a signal: Moscow is ready for certain actions "in peak with the West."

“How much such cooperation can be justified for Russia is an open question. All recent experience with the Iranian side shows that the Islamic Republic prefers to use its partners for their own political purposes and to part with them in case of such necessity. This is evidenced by both the experience of the construction of the nuclear power plant in Bushehr and the last история with Gazpromneft.

It is also quite obvious that the cooperation of the Russian Federation with Iran under international sanctions will cause irritation on the part of the EU and the USA. Subsequently, this may lead to a deterioration of Russia's relations with these countries ... "


In the meantime, there is a discussion between Russia and Iran of possible oil cooperation, and the leadership of Pakistan has declared its support for Iran - and in full in the event of war.

Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari during a joint press conference with the presidents of Afghanistan and Iran on the results of the tripartite summit made a statement that Pakistan will fully support Iran in the event of aggression by other states. Zardari also promised the Iranian leader that he would not assist one of the main "enemies" of Iran - the United States. At a press conference, Zardari stressed the importance of a joint gas pipeline construction project with Iran.

The government of Pakistan has finally approved a gas pipeline project from Iran, the cost of which is about $ 1,5 billion to be laid. It is estimated that Iran will transport 7,8 billion cubic meters of gas to Pakistan in 2015 year.

For its part, Iran intends to provide Pakistan with a loan of $ 250 million, equipment and materials for the construction of a gas pipeline.

Alexander Serdyuk, Resource Analyst Pravda.ru, singled out two so-called myths generated by the Iranian atomic project.

The first myth is Iran’s desire to end Israel forever. In reality, the author believes, Iran, if it wants to acquire nuclear weapons, then in order to protect itself against invasion by the United States, as well as to create nuclear parity with Israel.

From here, a good time was chosen for the revitalization of activities in the nuclear field. After Iraq, the US economy is not in the best position. They will not have enough money for the second large-scale war in the region.

However, the analyst writes, Iranian scientists failed to achieve serious success. Therefore, the idea of ​​enriching a large amount of uranium to weapons-grade, most likely, Iran had to reject.

The second myth: the development of the Iranian nuclear program may trigger a new round of the arms race (and nuclear) in the Middle East. Indeed, in the footsteps of Iran, Turkey and Saudi Arabia can move.

But who said that the US will allow its satellites to acquire bombs and nuclear warheads?

If there is a large amount of 20-percent uranium and modern centrifuges in underground factories practically inaccessible to the enemy's air force, the expert writes, Iran will have the opportunity to enrich uranium in minimal time. What's next? And the fact that the “nuclear baton” is capable of cooling the ardor of the United States and its allies. Iran has nuclear delivery vehicles covering a range of 2 thousands of kilometers (a medium-range ballistic missile Shahab-3).

According to the latest IAEA data, Iran has 7611 kilograms of uranium enriched to 5%, and 232,8 kg of uranium enriched to 20%.

With the next forecast of how quickly Iran can create an atomic bomb, the Israelis came out.

To get a bomb, Iran needs from 4 to 6 months, said the head of the Israeli Institute for National Security Studies (INSS), Amos Yadlin. Tehran already has all the necessary components to create a nuclear weapon. The expert reported this at a press conference in Tel Aviv, the topic of which was devoted to the evaluation of Israel’s strategic prospects from the point of view of INSS. Amos Yadlin previously served as chief of Israeli military intelligence.

Yadlin’s words are in line with what Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said earlier (by summer Iran will reach an average level of enrichment of fissile materials, and then, in a few weeks or months, build a bomb).

However, American experts believe that Iran will possess nuclear weapons no earlier than in the middle of 2014.

Konstantin Sivkov, First Vice-President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, Doctor of Military Sciences, offered to the attention of readers "Military Industrial Courier" several options for military development of the situation around Iran. The analyst identified three options for the use of military force against Iran: limited missileaviation a strike to disable the most important facilities of the Iranian nuclear complex; large-scale air operation in order to completely destroy the nuclear complex and defeat the main objects of the Iranian economy, as a result of which Tehran will lose its leading position in the region; a full-scale war involving the air force, naval forces and ground forces until the complete defeat of the armed forces of Iran, the occupation of its territory and the establishment of a pro-American puppet regime.

Why is the United States and Israel still holding back?

First, Tehran has a very advantageous position - from a military-geographical point of view: the country borders on states that do not want to provide territory for the deployment of strike groups.

Turkey will not allow such a grouping to be placed on its territory: Ankara claims to revive influence in the Islamic world, and this world will not approve an alliance with Israel, which Ankara will have to conclude in case of aggression against Iran.

Highlights expert and Pakistan mentioned above. There are strong anti-American sentiment. Therefore, the presence of a contingent of NATO troops there, which will be based on the Americans, will be difficult.

Iraq is committed to maintaining good relations with its neighbor. He, too, is unlikely to provide territory to prepare for an invasion of Iran.

As for Afghanistan, there NATO forces are not even able to control the territory of the country. And there is no military infrastructure sufficient to ensure the intensive combat activities of significant groups of troops.

Here Saudi Arabia and nearby Arab monarchies can provide a relatively well-developed infrastructure for the war against Iran. But the distance from the Iranian border will allow to use their territory only to accommodate the Air Force grouping.

However, for the Arab rulers, the presence of the Israeli armed forces in their country would be an extremely undesirable step for ideological, political and social considerations, the expert writes.

The situation in the region is thus clearly not in favor of Israel and the United States. Moreover, Iran, the analyst notes, is building up its military potential.

Secondly, the Iranian armed forces, consisting of two independent components — the army and the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps — are the largest in the Middle East.

The large-scale air operation in order to completely destroy the nuclear complex and destroy the main objects of the Iranian economy, given the unwillingness of the American leadership to get involved in military conflicts on its own, may be, according to the scientist, conducted by a coalition of states led by the United States. Its participants are likely to become Turkey and Saudi Arabia, whose territory and military infrastructure will become a military strategic base. And without participation in the operation of Pakistan it will be impossible to ensure effective strikes on the territory of Iran by tactical aviation forces.

The operation will be very costly, and the economic crisis has not been canceled.

For a blitzkrieg on the Iranian front, the United States and its allies will have to ensure the overwhelming superiority of the air force. That is, it is necessary to create a grouping of aviation with a total number of at least 2000-2500 machines, writes Konstantin Sivkov, including up to 500 strategic bombers. It will probably be allocated from 1500 to 2500 cruise missiles, mainly for strategic aviation.

The total volume of cargo that needs to be delivered to the region, judging by the experience of military operations against Iraq, may exceed three million tons. The cost of such an operation will amount to more than a trillion dollars.

Such expenses are difficult even for the USA. Moreover, strikes on Iran will cause a spike in oil prices, which will aggravate the unfavorable economic situation in Europe.

This is not to say that neither Turkey nor Pakistan are going to fight with Iran.

Finally, there is a third - political - argument against the American attack on Iran. After the American lie about "Iraqi weapons of mass destruction," the analyst writes, few people can believe in the threat of "Iranian nuclear weapons" as an excuse for a military operation. In any case, the Americans will not be able to carry out the necessary resolution through the UN Security Council: Russia and China will not allow it.

The expert concludes: a large-scale air operation against Iran in the medium term is unlikely. There is even less chance of a full-scale war in order to completely defeat the Iranian Armed Forces, occupying the territory of this country and establishing a “puppet pro-American regime” in it. In this case, it will be necessary to additionally create a significant grouping of ground forces (at least 500 thousand people). The cost of the operation to defeat the armed forces of Iran and the occupation of its territory could exceed three trillion dollars. Then it will have to spend billions of dollars annually to fight the national liberation movement - without hopes of being able to use Iran’s resources. The moral and political losses of the United States and Israel will also be enormous.

Today, the United States is unlikely to plan a powerful military operation against Iran - both in the short and in the medium term.

Retired General James Cartwright, who recently held the post of Deputy Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, at a conference in Washington saidthat the conflict around the Iranian nuclear program can be resolved by providing Tehran with guarantees of “extended deterrence” - such as those that the US gives its allies in Europe and Asia. The guarantees will prompt Tehran to abandon the creation of a nuclear weapon.

Noting that the main reason for the Iranian desire to acquire nuclear weapons is the fear of external attack, Mr. Cartwright suggested:

“Why not find an opportunity to provide Iran with guarantees of sovereignty — so that he himself does not need to arm himself for these purposes?”


Of course, before the idea of ​​a guarantee “umbrella” is implemented in practice, it will have to be worked out with regional partners.

Guarantees of “extended deterrence” are provided by Washington to allies and partners in Europe and Asia (members of NATO, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Japan, South Korea, Australia). In exchange for protection by all available means, the United States makes the countries under the “umbrella” dependent on themselves.

The idea of ​​an “umbrella” for Iran, we note, looks very strange. If Iran is afraid of aggression just from the United States (and its first ally Israel), then the “umbrella” from the United States, which will have to explain to Israel that it is now a sin to touch Iran, will puzzle Iranians and Israelis. Rather, someone here on the eve of negotiations in Kazakhstan is trying to confuse their heads, for which a neutral retiree was used - a person out of work.

On the other hand, like is treated like. Negotiations are coming, and the Iranians want to hear from the US, finally, sensible suggestions. Diplomacy is already tired from transfusions from empty to empty, and Israel continues to count weeks and months until the irretrievable moment when Iran will cross the "red line" indicated by Mr. Netanyahu.

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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 15 February 2013 09: 11
    +10
    This company, according to the US Treasury, is guilty of censoring the broadcasts, as well as broadcasting confessions of political prisoners received "under pressure".
    Sorry, then all US television companies need to be included in these sanctions.

    On February 12, it became known that the IRI invited Russian companies to take part in the development of their oil and gas fields.
    100%, Obama heard such a choke on his beer laughing

    Pakistan will fully support Iran in case of aggression from other states. Zardari also promised the Iranian leader that he would not assist one of Iran’s main “enemies” - the United States
    And here it’s already interesting, in Pakistan there are nuclear weapons belonging to Amers or not already belonging what If Pakistan supports Iran, then the entire map of the Middle East immediately changes. I can congratulate the USA on another failure hi

    The cost of such an operation will amount to more than a trillion dollars.
    Here come on with sloths more carefully, and there the USA is all in debt, and then there’s a trillion.


    Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
    Yes, who would doubt wink
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 15 February 2013 09: 23
      +5
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      come on with sloths more carefully, and there the USA is all in debt, and here is another trillion.


      I owe everything to whom, I forgive everyone.
      1. Beck
        Beck 15 February 2013 12: 46
        -4
        Again, if the West were to put money in their pockets, so the orthodox who aspire to nuclear weapons can be supported and stigmatized by those who do not want to spread nuclear weapons.

        There is an internationally recognized concept - the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. A simple move of logic. If Iran has nuclear weapons as the sovereign of the international community, then why not to have nuclear weapons on the same basis in Kazakhstan, the Baltic states, and Ukraine. Who will need it? The world community will not need, and especially Russia will not. Both the world community, and first of all Russia, will impede such a turn of affairs. And this is legitimate and explainable. So why are the patriots helping Iran to get nuclear weapons. Moreover, it will be in the hands of inadequate ayatollahs.

        Now torture. Torture was prohibited in all civilized countries. In the US, torture began to be used, but only in relation to to terrorists and in no way to criminals and scammers. And after 3 people died during the act, in the blown up towers of the shopping center. In my opinion, in order to save thousands of people, torture can be applied to individual terrorists.

        Sequence of logic. The FSB knows that the terrorists planned a ter.act of very great power in Moscow, in a crowded place. Either in the subway, or in the stadium during the match, or at the station. The FSB knows that the Ter.act will be committed today, but they don’t know where and when.. The FSB detains two terrorists on whom there is good evidence of their involvement in the upcoming terror act. Interrogated. They brazenly laugh in the face of the FSB officers, with the words - Yes, you went on ..., Allah akbar. Get what you deserve. Your wicked compatriots will die today in the thousands. And my soul will rise to heaven. And why wait for the explosion, persuading the terrorists and threatening them with a finger? For me, it’s not shameful to torture them, in order to find out where the explosives are laid and in time to neutralize them and save the lives of thousands of Russians.. Do not stand the painful suffering of terrorists, even one life of an innocent peaceful person.
        1. Don
          Don 15 February 2013 13: 15
          +2
          Quote: Beck
          So why are the patriots helping Iran to get nuclear weapons.

          Enough already about getting nuclear weapons by Iran. Well, bring at least one evidence that they are going to get it. Talk alone.
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 15 February 2013 17: 46
            +5
            Quote: Don
            Enough already about getting nuclear weapons by Iran. Well, bring at least one evidence that they are going to get it. Talk alone.


            Here is their proof. The little man with the picture who brought the "red line" to Iran's nuclear program by the summer of this fall. What other proof is needed. LEADERS OF ISRAEL NEVER LIE !!! lol As well as the USA in Iraq and Libya, too, "convincing" evidence has been provided. Well, neither the Americans nor we will give Iran nuclear weapons, all the more so if they wanted it for a long time, they would have already had it. They have no technical capabilities to produce weapons-grade plutonium, and without it, a warhead for ICBMs or MRBMs cannot be made, Enriched uranium-235 based on it you can make a large land mine (bomb) that you can't push into any rocket, except perhaps into the Proton. Yes, and the problems in Natanz have not yet been resolved and are unlikely to be resolved in the foreseeable future. Of course, it is not profitable for the Iranians or their opponents to talk to the whole world, so they scare each other. Over there, the DPRK and the warhead have delivery vehicles and the regime is equally ambiguous, and nevertheless, this does not bother anyone seriously, but no one has any desire to poke in there.
            So Iran, at least for the time being in words and not in allotment, wants to achieve the same parity for itself.
            1. Kaa
              Kaa 18 February 2013 12: 12
              0
              Quote: Ascetic
              ISRAEL LEADERS NEVER LIE !!

              To them and the word: DEBKA file Special report January 15, 2013, 10:56 AM (GMT +02: 00)
              After US intelligence admitted that it could not detect or stop the Syrian chemical attack, US experts now believe Iran will not be able to produce enough weapons-grade uranium for a single bomb or bomb until mid-2014 "without West detecting." DEBKA file: Barack Obama prepares the world for a "surprise" from Iranian nuclear tests. The new postponement, moreover, is based on a false assumption. Already today, Iran has acquired or produced enough uranium to build five nuclear bombs.
              DEBKA file Special Report February 17, 2013, 1:59 pm (GMT + 02: 00)
              North Korean tests of "miniature nuclear devices", combined with Iran's ability to launch a capsule with a monkey in the form of a payload into orbit, together create a nuclear potential of warheads by common efforts. Officials in Jerusalem were shocked to find that, instead of reducing this threat, members of President Barack Obama's circle are exploring a bizarre plan to appease Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in his desire to get the UN Security Council to approve his nuclear fatwa. /www.debka.com/search/tag/Iran%20nuclear/
          2. Beck
            Beck 17 February 2013 17: 14
            +2
            Quote: Don
            Enough already about getting nuclear weapons by Iran. Well, bring at least one evidence that they are going to get it. Alone talk


            One so one. Iran at one time signed an agreement on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. One of the clauses of the agreement states that the IAEA commission should be freely allowed, for inspection, at any nuclear facility. Iran does not let. Something is hiding. Here is one reason. In addition to statements by Iranian leaders themselves. It is now their statements have softened, as sanctions apply.

            Logics. The FSB or the KNB comes to me. Shows legal search paper. They say that in my attic there is a machine gun hidden. I am clean and say come watch. But if I’m not clean I’ll scream that I don’t have anything, that I don’t have a right, etc. And why, then, would the KGB officers believe me and leave. So their suspicions with such my behavior will only increase.
            1. Misantrop
              Misantrop 17 February 2013 17: 31
              0
              Quote: Beck
              Logics. The FSB or the KNB comes to me. Shows legal search paper. They say that in my attic there is a machine gun hidden. I am clean and say come watch.

              And if they bring PM in your pocket and call the prepared witnesses in the attic? How is this logic? And then first the inspectors come, and then the Israeli aviation flies ...

              By the way, about the enrichment of uranium, purification of plutonium and double standards. A couple of questions:
              a) For what reason, Japan did not allow emergency Fukushima no one foreign liquidator? What could they there this see?
              b) Where was the energy generated at 6 not the smallest units of this nuclear power plant spent? There is no substation and outlet power lines at this nuclear power plant, all energy was consumed locally
              1. Beck
                Beck 18 February 2013 11: 00
                +1
                Quote: Misantrop
                A couple of questions:


                Well, that’s how I know why the Japanese did not let foreign liquidators into Fukushima. The first thing that comes to mind is that they hoped for their own strength. And judging by the television reports, with an effort, but they managed. And the last thing that can be assumed in a fever dream is that the Japanese created a nuclear beast of unprecedented proportions on Fukushima. To split the globe in half and finally separate from the rest of the world.

                Where did the ergia go? The first and the natural is for the needs of the economy. Last and unnatural - to fuel tectonic processes near the Himalayas and under the Tien Shan, so that seismic activity leaves the Japanese archipelago.
                1. Misantrop
                  Misantrop 18 February 2013 11: 55
                  0
                  Quote: Beck
                  The first and the natural is for the needs of the economy.

                  Worn string bags? There NO power lines of sufficient power. To make sure personallyjust look at satellite images. At the same time, you can see that the whole area is bulk, i.e. the likelihood of finding underground plants there with a strictly defined focus is EXTREMELY high. An indirect sign of this can also be a supposedly nearby small hydroelectric power station (also without power transmission lines), whose water mirror looks more like a classic cooling pond, which is essential for a certain type of nuclear cycle production. Turn on the head, useful unit wink
                  Quote: Beck
                  judging by the television reports, with a strain, but they coped

                  A masterpiece, except for jokes. Judging by the extremely scarce information breaking out from there, the chain reaction of fission is still not even extinguished there on at least one block. Otherwise, 131 iodine in water samples is simply nowhere to come from, its half-life is only 2 days. Let me remind you that almost 2 years have passed since the accident. And it is they now they may consider that the situation has at least stabilized (in what state is another question). But at the time of the development of the accident, when there was an uncontrolled heating of the assemblies and the blocks exploded one after another? WHAT then made them stand to death, denying specialists from all over the planet the opportunity to take part in the liquidation of the accident? Secret blocks of nuclear power plants? So these blocks are made in the USA and have not been secret for half a century. By the way, specialists from the USA WERE NOT ALSO PUT ...
            2. 4eJloBe4er
              4eJloBe4er 6 March 2013 01: 21
              0
              You ask, do these mate go to Russia, China, North Korea, the United States? Of course not, but Iran is directly the root of evil!
        2. Ghenxnumx
          Ghenxnumx 15 February 2013 16: 10
          +2
          Quote: Beck
          Again, if the West were to put money in their pockets, so the orthodox who aspire to nuclear weapons can be supported and stigmatized by those who do not want to spread nuclear weapons.

          Beck, the United States, France, Israel and Pakistan are much more aggressive than Iran - nevertheless, no one has any complaints against them, as holders of nuclear weapons - so why such a screech in relation to Iran?
          It is unlikely that anyone will convince Iran that he is undeservedly afraid of aggression from the part of Iran - Iran has already seen what is happening to those who have trusted the mattresses - Panama, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, and therefore they are preparing insurance for themselves in the form of nuclear plush.
          1. Beck
            Beck 17 February 2013 17: 51
            +1
            Quote: Ghen75
            Beck, the United States, France, Israel and Pakistan are much more aggressive than Iran - nevertheless, no one has any complaints against them, as holders of nuclear weapons - so why such a screech in relation to Iran?


            But because not a single leader of these nuclear countries has officially declared that it is necessary to physically destroy someone, to wipe some state off the face of the earth. Iranian leaders have officially stated that it is necessary to destroy such and such a people, to wipe such and such a state off the face of the earth. The Ayatollahs claim that they will arrange the New Islamic Order on the loan .. And so say the leaders, and not Vanka, blurted out a booze.

            Quote: Ghen75
            IRI has already seen what is happening trusting mattresses - Panama, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, and therefore prepares insurance for itself in the form of nuclear plush


            That there is no logic. Let Iran even make two self-made bombs. So in the event of a serious conflict, these bombs will explode on Iranian territory. Technologically, Iran will not be able to catch up with the West for three centuries.
            1. Misantrop
              Misantrop 18 February 2013 11: 59
              0
              Quote: Beck
              But because not a single leader of these nuclear countries has officially declared that it is necessary to physically destroy someone, to wipe some state off the face of the earth. Iranian leaders have officially stated that it is necessary to destroy such and such a people, to wipe such and such a state off the face of the earth.

              Do you want to say that Israel is an extremely peace-loving country, which has never bombed its neighbors absolutely without sanctions and coordination with anyone? Why was she allowed to develop and create nuclear weapons?
              1. Beck
                Beck 18 February 2013 12: 21
                +1
                Quote: Misantrop
                Do you want to say that Israel is an extremely peace-loving country, which has never bombed its neighbors absolutely without sanctions and coordination with anyone? Why was she allowed to develop and create nuclear weapons?


                Since 1948, Israel has been waging defensive wars from neighbors attacking them 5 times. That is, the Arabs attacked. In 1973, the situation was critical for the existence of the state of Israel. Israel cannot contrast the countries around it with the same quantitative human potential. Therefore, he created his nuclear weapons as an element of deterrence from physical complete destruction.

                But, unlike Iran. Israel has never signed a nuclear weapons non-proliferation treaty. Therefore, he did not violate legally international provisions. Second, Israeli leaders have never stated that they need to wipe Syria or Iran off the face of the earth, and physically completely destroy Arabs or Iranians. And the leaders of Iran have repeatedly stated that Israel is not worthy of existence, and that all Jews must be thrown into the sea. Nuclear weapons of Israel is a deterrent. Neighbors will not attack him and Israel will never use nuclear weapons. And if it applies, then in the most extreme situation, when the Israeli troops themselves can no longer resist aggression.

                The same as with Israel. Pakistan never stated that it was necessary to destroy India or Afghanistan. In Pakistan there is no dictatorship of religious fanatics, there are no elections there. That is why the world community, at one time, was more or less calm about the fact that Pakistan took possession of nuclear weapons.
                1. Misantrop
                  Misantrop 18 February 2013 12: 36
                  0
                  Quote: Beck
                  Israel has never signed a nuclear weapons non-proliferation treaty

                  And when did North Korea sign it? wink
                  Quote: Beck
                  Nuclear weapons of Israel is a deterrent. Neighbors will not attack him and Israel will never use nuclear weapons

                  Syria attacked to Israel, since he recently bombed on its territory? And if the next time the spy brings in information that (allegedly) something that poses a threat to Israel is being developed in a well-fortified underground bunker, which cannot be destroyed without nuclear weapons?
                  Quote: Beck
                  Since 1948, Israel has been waging defensive wars from neighbors attacking them 5 times. That is, the Arabs attacked. In 1973, the situation was critical for the existence of the state of Israel. Israel cannot contrast the countries around it with the same quantitative human potential. Therefore...
                  ... letting him develop nuclear weapons, knowing how he "likes" to coordinate the use of his weapons with someone, is fraught with VERY big problems for the world. When is the next time the Israeli authorities will think that it is on the brink of destruction? And what will they do in this case?
                  1. Beck
                    Beck 18 February 2013 13: 28
                    +1
                    Quote: Misantrop
                    And when did North Korea sign it?


                    When the DPRK signed an agreement on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons I don’t know. But she complained. To date, there are only three non-signatories: India, Pakistan, and Israel.

                    Quote: Misantrop
                    Syria attacked Israel, since he recently bombed on its territory?


                    Israel did not attack. He committed a military incident as a preventive measure of his safety. The Soviet Union in 1945, in violation of the non-Adenaean treaty, also attacked Japan.

                    Quote: Misantrop
                    letting him develop nuclear weapons, knowing how he "likes" to coordinate the use of his weapons with someone, is fraught with VERY big problems for the world. When is the next time the Israeli authorities will think that it is on the brink of destruction? And what will they do in this case?


                    Israel use nuclear weapons only if the Jewish people are threatened with complete destruction. In all other cases, Israel will have enough of Zahal.
                    1. Misantrop
                      Misantrop 18 February 2013 22: 57
                      0
                      Quote: Beck
                      Israel use nuclear weapons only if the Jewish people are threatened with complete destruction.

                      What is it like? belay This refers to the people of Israel or the Jewish people? The first option is possible only when using a multi-megaton thermonuclear charge (after which there will be no one to use nuclear weapons in return), the second is not realistic at all in principle (unless they invent a supervirus). But who then to bomb? recourse wassat
                      Quote: Beck
                      Israel did not attack. He committed a military incident as a preventive measure

                      Who can guarantee that the next "preventative incident" is not nuclear?
                2. Don
                  Don 19 February 2013 18: 55
                  0
                  Quote: Beck
                  Since 1948, Israel has been waging defensive wars from neighbors attacking them 5 times. That is, the Arabs attacked. In 1973, the situation was critical for the existence of the state of Israel.

                  What are you talking about? It appears during the Suez War of 1957-1958 Egypt attacked Great Britain, France and Israel. It turns out that the Six Day War was not the first Israel to strike at Egypt, but vice versa. And Israel did not invade Lebanon. Read the story before defending Israel as usual.
                  1. Beck
                    Beck 19 February 2013 19: 55
                    +1
                    Quote: Don
                    What are you talking about? It appears during the Suez War of 1957-1958 Egypt attacked Great Britain, France and Israel.


                    Since 1956 he was mistaken; we all walk under God. But the main line is the Arabs were disagreeable with the division of the land, not Israel.

                    In 1967, Israel launched a preemptive strike because it knew for sure about the impending attack of Egypt, Syria, and Jordan. I would be two rui for if on June 21, 1941 the Red Army would deliver a preemptive strike on German troops on the entire western front.

                    In 1973, Israel also knew about the impending attack of Egypt and Syria (not a day or an hour, but preparation), but in order to avoid political speculation it did not take a preemptive strike. For which he paid dearly for heavy losses and stood on the verge of defeat.

                    Lebanon. In those years, detachments of Palestinian militants ousted by the king of Jordan from Jordan settled in Lebanon, in the camps of Sabra and Shatila. And for about two years, they regularly bombarded the northern regions of Israel and made terrorist attacks there. (Georgia did not do this, but was subjected to an invasion of Russian troops. I do not approve of Georgia’s policy itself)
                    Therefore, Israel led troops to Lebanon and the defeated Fatah units were relocated to Syria.

                    If you do not know this, why recommend something.
                    1. Don
                      Don 20 February 2013 15: 10
                      0
                      Quote: Beck
                      Since 1956 he was mistaken; we all walk under God. But the main line is the Arabs were disagreeable with the division of the land, not Israel.

                      Let's not confuse warm with soft. In the 1956th act of aggression. And the point. No need to move out now who was happy with what.
                      Quote: Beck
                      In 1967, Israel launched a preemptive strike because it knew for sure about the impending attack of Egypt, Syria, and Jordan. I would be two rui for if on June 21, 1941 the Red Army would deliver a preemptive strike on German troops on the entire western front.
                      In 1973, Israel also knew about the impending attack of Egypt and Syria (not a day or an hour, but preparation), but in order to avoid political speculation it did not take a preemptive strike. For which he paid dearly for heavy losses and stood on the verge of defeat.

                      Well, of course. Or maybe you will remember about international laws, about which you like to recall talking about nuclear weapons, and Iran, and very quickly forget about Israel. In international laws there is no concept of a preemptive strike, but there is a concept of open aggression.
                      Quote: Beck
                      Lebanon. In those years, detachments of Palestinian militants ousted by the king of Jordan from Jordan settled in Lebanon, in the camps of Sabra and Shatila.

                      As for Lebanon, I am aware of the events of those years. The thing is different. Again, in accordance with international laws. Conducting a counter-terrorist operation is one thing, and occupying a state and supporting one of the parties in a civil war is another.
                      Quote: Beck
                      (Georgia did not do this, but was subjected to an invasion of Russian troops. I do not approve of Georgia’s policy itself)

                      Georgia has done something else. She bombarded the peacekeepers and citizens of Russia in South Ossetia. The Russian Federation had the right to protect its citizens located in the territory of another state. De jure South Ossetia is part of Georgia, de facto no.
                      1. Beck
                        Beck 20 February 2013 17: 48
                        +1
                        Quote: Don
                        Well, of course. Or maybe you will remember about international laws, about which you like to recall talking about nuclear weapons, and Iran, and very quickly forget about Israel. In international laws there is no concept of a preemptive strike, but there is a concept of open aggression.


                        This is the paradox. Iran has signed the international law on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons and must fulfill its obligations. India, Pakistan, and Israel did not sign the law on NNW; therefore, while creating their nuclear capabilities, they did not violate either the letter or the spirit of international laws. Secondly, in India, in Israel and partly in Pakistan, there are free elections in which parliaments are elected and governments accountable to parliament are formed. Democratic ayatollahs are in power in Iran. And what they will think of when they wake up tomorrow morning, only Allah knows.

                        Quote: Don
                        Georgia has done something else. She bombarded the peacekeepers and citizens of Russia in South Ossetia. The Russian Federation had the right to protect its citizens located in the territory of another state


                        Terrorists from the camps of Sabra and Shatila not once, but every day, for about 2 years, fired on Israeli territory. And Israel had every right to protect its fellow citizens located in northern Israel. Subjected to everyday shelling.

                        What is the Russian Federation in Georgia, what is Israel in Lebanon. The motive is one. Even Israel is more justified. Russia could withdraw its people from, de jure, the territory of Georgia.

                        I repeat. I consider the policy of Georgia regarding Abkhazia and South Ossetia illegal. When leaving the USSR, Georgia relied on the same motives and slogans that Abkhazia and South Ossetia now rely on. That is, for Georgia, these motives were legal, and for two autonomies that were illegal. There can be no such thing in the concept of justice.
                      2. Don
                        Don 20 February 2013 18: 55
                        0
                        Quote: Beck
                        This is the paradox. Iran has signed the international law on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons and must fulfill its obligations. India, Pakistan, Israel did not sign the law on NNW, therefore, while creating their nuclear capabilities they did not violate a single letter,

                        Wait. So, according to international laws, if Iran does not have the right to have nuclear weapons, then Israel started three wars in violation of international laws. Is it logical? and of course it can be justified, but then Iran can also be justified.
                        Quote: Beck
                        Terrorists from the camps of Sabra and Shatila not once, but every day, for about 2 years, fired on Israeli territory. And Israel had every right to protect its fellow citizens located in northern Israel. Subjected to everyday shelling.

                        I agree. It was possible to carry out the operation, but not to occupy the country and take part in the civil war.
                      3. Beck
                        Beck 20 February 2013 19: 59
                        +1
                        Quote: Don
                        I agree. It was possible to carry out the operation, but not to occupy the country and take part in the civil war.


                        You and I are making progress. In the last comment, your tone is no longer annoyed. The points of view may not coincide, but communication should be calm.

                        Quote: Don
                        Wait. So, according to international laws, if Iran does not have the right to have nuclear weapons, then Israel started three wars in violation of international laws. Is it logical? and of course it can be justified, but then Iran can also be justified.


                        If you look historically. Jews came to the Palestinian lands about 3300 years ago. About 2000 years ago they lost their statehood. Arabs came to Palestine in the 7th century with the formation of the Arab Caliphate by gas factory. In 1948, in order not to expel anyone, the UN divided Palestine into Jewish and Arab parts. Jews were delighted and singled out after 2000 years of wandering. The Arabs in the person of the League of Arab countries said that the state of Israel does not have a right to exist, and the Jews to life, that they must be drowned in the sea. The armies of 5 Arab states attacked Israel .. The Jews resisted. (Such as with Georgia, in the concept of justice should not be). And since then, Jews have only responded to aggression. 1967, 1973, 1982. And in general, who until 1967 did not allow the Arabs of Palestine to build their state? So these are just Arabs. From 1948 to 1967, the West Bank was occupied by Jordan, Gaza, Egypt.

                        It was not necessary to start in 1948 to the Arabs. Now a completely different situation would be. Just like Germany did not have to start a war in 1941. Then she would not lose Silesia, Koenigsberg, Sudetenland. And this is also justice.
          2. 4eJloBe4er
            4eJloBe4er 6 March 2013 01: 35
            0
            Rather "trusted" than trusted. Steps to meet with huge concessions were made from the hopelessness of the situation, and not from the desire to get a rotten democracy.
        3. 4eJloBe4er
          4eJloBe4er 6 March 2013 02: 01
          0
          You forgot about US double standards! They live by the rule "nothing is true, everything is allowed!" Therefore, any person of Arab appearance who interferes with the ruling elite can become a terrorist! Do you support the torture of innocent people, or do you think that a staged terrorist attack gives them the right to do so? In Russia, there were real terrorist attacks, but in the United States there were more terrorist attacks besides two towers? (by the way, not only two towers were destroyed there, but also a couple of other buildings, which, as some American media said, could not stand it and self-destructed!)
    2. core
      core 15 February 2013 09: 29
      +5
      a trillion court, a trillion there, for the debt of the United States do not play a role. decide to bomb. draw as needed. CITIZENS STOP BUYING GREEN FANTASIES.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 15 February 2013 16: 46
        +2
        Quote: Beck
        There is an internationally recognized concept - the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons.
        Very incorrect information. Imagine that SOME countries wanted to spit on all sorts of contracts there!
        1. Beck
          Beck 18 February 2013 12: 23
          +1
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Very incorrect information. Imagine that SOME countries spit out like all sorts of contracts there!


          Correctly. Some sneeze. And in the first place, and the only wrong ones are Iran and the DPRK.

          Did you mean them?
  2. vorobey
    vorobey 15 February 2013 09: 19
    +5
    Is the American gopot offering Iran a roof?

    It flows often.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 15 February 2013 09: 48
      +5
      The fact that Iran will have a bomb is no doubt. therefore, press it to the fullest

      Today

      Chairman of the Iranian Reconstruction Committee of Lebanon, Hisam Hosh Noveys, died on the way from Damascus to Beirut at the hands of a terrorist group. Earlier, AP citing Iranian media reported the death in Lebanon of General IRGC Hassan Shateri, commander of the IRGC forces in Lebanon.
    2. wax
      wax 15 February 2013 14: 41
      +1
      In Libya, this roof completely collapsed.
  3. Vanek
    Vanek 15 February 2013 09: 20
    +10
    The US Treasury announced a reduction in the list of countries that can buy oil from Iran.

    This, estimate, you go to the store for a loaf of bread, and a neighbor tells you:

    - You cannot buy in this store. In no case!

    T

    Oleg hi
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 15 February 2013 12: 32
      0
      Quote: Vanek
      This, estimate, you go to the store for a loaf of bread, and a neighbor tells you: - You can’t buy in this store. In no case!

      Swinging a gun at his nose ... soldier
  4. older
    older 15 February 2013 09: 21
    0
    The article echoes the article of Jemal very much .... And just proves a simple truth, the Americans will give a piece only when it simply does not reach into the mouth due to lack of space
  5. ayyildiz
    ayyildiz 15 February 2013 09: 40
    +2
    Iranian experts watched the conduct of an underground nuclear test in the DPRK 12 on February. This was reported by the Japanese news agency "Kyodo", ITAR-TASS.

    According to journalists citing diplomatic sources, Iran in November last year asked the DPRK to allow its specialists to observe the underground nuclear test. In exchange, Tehran allegedly paid Pyongyang several tens of millions of dollars in Chinese yuan.

    Unlike the DPRK, Iran denies the military focus of its nuclear program. Tehran says it is engaged in peaceful enrichment of uranium.
  6. Apollo
    Apollo 15 February 2013 09: 48
    +10
    The fact that Iran will eventually acquire nuclear weapons is beyond my doubt, for several reasons:

    1. There was an info that at the last test of nuclear weapons in the DPRK, Iranian nuclear experts observed the results.
    2. It is possible, but I do not exclude this, that during the test of nuclear weapons in the DPRK, in the direct preparation of a nuclear explosion, Iranian experts again participated.
    3. Iran does not need to test nuclear weapons in its territory; it can very well use the territory of the DPRK.
    4: Given the fact that Iran owns delivery vehicles, so, in my opinion, Ahmednijat did not dissemble when he talked about the status of a nuclear power.
    1. Kaa
      Kaa 15 February 2013 10: 37
      +3
      Quote: Apollon
      Iran does not need to test nuclear weapons in its territory

      Moreover, he already did it. laughing ..said an earthquake. How to experience in a seismically unstable area?
      "Some media in Iran suggest anthropogenic nature of the earthquake
      Iran earthquake caused by underground nuclear weapons tests. This is stated in the message distributed by the Iranian web resource Balatarin. In discussions on this topic, site visitors suggest that For this reason, the Iranian government refuses foreign humanitarian aid, intends to underestimate the scale of the tragedy and silent on its details. All this causes indignation, discontent among citizens, and also serves as a breeding ground for all sorts of rumors. "Http://haqqin.az/npo/ictimai/1826-zemletryasenie-ili-yadernoe-ispytanie.html
      Quote: Apollon
      , he may well use the territory of the DPRK

      The Israelis also think so, they, I think, know better:
      "North Korea conducted nuclear tests. With their inherent black humor, the Communists timed the tests to the American Day of Remembrance of the Fallen. The success of the tests was confirmed by an earthquake of 4,7 points. The charge capacity was decent - 15-30 kilotons. The main question for Israel is who North Korea sold its nuclear weapons - to Iran or terrorists? Http: //samsonblinded.org/newsru/9042 ". 26 May 2009
      1. wax
        wax 15 February 2013 14: 43
        +1
        An earthquake from a nuclear explosion clearly differs from a natural one in a seismogram. So only the DPRK.
    2. Son
      Son 15 February 2013 10: 42
      0
      Competently ...
  7. Denis_SF
    Denis_SF 15 February 2013 10: 24
    +3
    The Pakistanis were young people, they pulled a denyuzhku out of the tan, and as funding stopped, they immediately repainted. Pakistan is now a serious field of play for China has become.
  8. Son
    Son 15 February 2013 10: 41
    +5
    "Retired General James Cartwright, who recently served as deputy head of the US Chiefs of Staff, said at a conference in Washington that the conflict over the Iranian nuclear program can be resolved by providing Tehran with" extended containment "guarantees, such as the US gives to allies in Europe and Asia. The guarantees will induce Tehran to abandon the development of nuclear weapons. "

    It seems like - Milosevic and a number of other figures have already been given "guarantees" ...
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 15 February 2013 11: 19
      +1
      Quote: Son
      It seems like - Milosevic and a number of other figures have already been given "guarantees" ...

      Yeah, and then - "Carthage must be destroyed."
    2. SPIRITofFREEDOM
      SPIRITofFREEDOM 15 February 2013 11: 43
      +1
      Such guarantees result in a coffin wassat
  9. Magadan
    Magadan 15 February 2013 11: 09
    +8
    How much such cooperation can be justified for Russia is an open question .... The Islamic Republic prefers to use its partners for their own political purposes and to part with them if such a need arises.

    HM, actually, on Bushehr, our money worked well, I didn’t understand what claims to Iran? We are there anyway in the black!

    it is clear that cooperation between the Russian Federation and Iran, which is under international sanctions, will cause irritation from the EU and the USA.

    Well, yes, the same song. Yes, we wanted to put on this relationship! This relationship only orange and bureaucrats unclean on hand excite. What will US and Europe do to us? Will iPhones stop selling? So it’s faster, then we’ll have to finally develop our electronics. Well, at the extremes in China we will buy everything. I can directly imagine how Europe stops selling meat to us, and we give them gas. I wonder who will come faster krandets? drinks
    1. Don
      Don 15 February 2013 13: 20
      +1
      Quote: Magadan
      I can directly imagine how Europe stops selling meat to us, and we give them gas.

      I think you’ll somehow live without European meat, given that you yourself produce 70% of the meat you consume. And the EU will buy gas anyway, not for nothing that they invested in the Nord Stream and are planning to invest in the South.
    2. 4eJloBe4er
      4eJloBe4er 6 March 2013 00: 53
      0
      American domination is coming to an end. All great empires frantically jerked in dying convulsions before their death.
  10. Fornit
    Fornit 15 February 2013 11: 56
    +2
    Quote from the article: "Iraq is committed to maintaining good relations with its neighbor. He, too, is unlikely to provide territory to prepare for an invasion of Iran."
    Who will ask him? He is under amers ...
    Article +. It seems that the whole world has perceived that the best stun gun from a bandit is a nuclear missile ...
    And before crawling under someone's "guarantees" it is necessary to strongly consult on the situation of those who are already under them.
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 15 February 2013 12: 59
      +1
      But what about without demand? Amer in Iraq created a government of chaos and powerlessness, in which there was simply not even a couple of people left who could agree among themselves. Amer can only buy in bulk a certain number of votes in support and try to push their demands, but even in this case it will be very difficult at the level of performers. In such a situation, they will have to defend themselves against Iraqis ...
    2. Don
      Don 15 February 2013 13: 22
      +1
      Quote: Fornit
      Quote from the article: "Iraq seeks to maintain good relations with its neighbor. It is also unlikely to provide territory for preparing an invasion of Iran."
      Who will ask him? He is under amers ...

      They won’t ask, it’s just that Amers are unlikely to want to conduct a ground operation against Iran. In addition, the Shiites of Iraq will strongly resist this.
  11. Sars
    Sars 15 February 2013 12: 54
    +2
    Pakistan is an ally of China.
    It turns out that China is seizing the initiative from Russia in "friendship" with Iran.
    And, in general, the PRC can significantly strengthen its presence in the BVI.
  12. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 15 February 2013 13: 06
    +1
    Ahmadinijad made a very sharp detour in rhetoric. He constantly kept repeating that Israel would be the first to be cleaned up, well, after receiving the bomb, it’s clear that for the electorate, he also said something outward. And then another time I stopped. Now he is a sweet bunny, Israel, from his words, of course, evil, but perfectly permissible, but the bomb is lying around ... It’s as if he hadn’t got a couple of friends ready for use by someone from friends, for religious reasons. And a friendship such as began to be traced - Pakistan. Of course they are raging at home, but their brother by faith swear to protect, they are almost ready to lie with their bones. No matter how much they have lent to one friend, bombs and heels will be enough for two or three, they will remain fifty for themselves, as a token of friendship, otherwise they will be idle, and you can get oil and chum for the gas pipeline too .. .
  13. VadimSt
    VadimSt 15 February 2013 13: 18
    +2
    The universe once again reminded the world that there was nothing unshakable!
  14. Alikovo
    Alikovo 15 February 2013 15: 53
    0
    America has pushed Pakistan to the limit with its drones and they want to turn their backs on them.
  15. homosum20
    homosum20 15 February 2013 19: 57
    +1
    As for whoever can and what cannot.
    There is such a stupid book "Richard Long Arms". Rather, a series of books for the younger generation. They are kind of primitive, but they explain rather complicated things in simple words. These are, for example:
    “War criminals,” he repeated. “Who is this?
    “All those,” I said firmly, “who have stained the laws of chivalry, offending peasants, raping women, and robbing!”
    Prince aimed first:
    - Your Highness, but, if it’s completely honest, then our heroes do this sometimes! .... they amuse themselves.
    The Duke specified with reluctance, but objectivity, a noble man:
    - Even the high knights.
    “This is condemnable,” I snapped, “and not in a Christian way, but we are victors, there is no one to hang us. But the vanquished - grief. "
    Children's questions - children's answers. The Romans (2 thousand years ago) said - woe to the vanquished.
    1. Corneli
      Corneli 15 February 2013 20: 45
      +1
      Quote: homosum20
      The Romans (2 thousand years ago) said - woe to the vanquished.

      Not true)
      "Vae victis" said the chief galls To the Romans, when, during the weighing of gold for ransom, they tried to convict him of cheating and underweight, he said "woe to the vanquished" and Schaub still did not seem to live like raspberries and put his sword on his side)
      P.S. Yes, yes .... the Romans grabbed the stars from the Gauls, then, and not vice versa). Since the same time, incidentally, and the saying "geese saved Rome"
  16. Apollo
    Apollo 15 February 2013 21: 46
    +1
    The Six will offer Iran to ease sanctions on the sale of precious metals

    MOSCOW, February 15 - RIA Novosti. The "Six" of international mediators are ready to offer Iran the easing of sanctions banning the sale of gold and other precious metals to the Islamic Republic in exchange for steps to wind down the nuclear program, Reuters reported on Friday, citing diplomatic sources.

    According to the interlocutors of the agency, this proposal will be made at the upcoming February 26 meeting of representatives of Iran and the "six" in Alma-Ata. In response, Tehran is expected to close the Fordu uranium enrichment plant, the agency said.

    Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi at a news conference in Moscow on February 12 said that Iran is ready to make concrete agreements in the negotiations if other participants in the meeting also demonstrate a desire to resolve this issue.

    In 2012, representatives of the "six" (Russia, USA, China, France, UK, Germany) and Tehran held three rounds of negotiations. Prior to this, the negotiations between the Six and Iran had not been held for over a year. The United States, several other Western countries and Israel suspect Iran of developing nuclear weapons under the guise of a peaceful atom program. Tehran says its nuclear program is aimed solely at meeting the country's electricity needs.

    http://ria.ru/world/20130215/923180641.html
  17. fenix57
    fenix57 16 February 2013 07: 55
    +1
    Pakistan + China + Iran, and all, to one degree or another, are NOT allies of star-striped. The trio will be good. Well, and if also the DPRK. hi
  18. Lucky
    Lucky 16 February 2013 12: 05
    0
    The USA needs a big war, here Iran will fall a victim of this war!
  19. fero
    fero 17 February 2013 21: 25
    0
    Finally, there is a third - political - argument against the American attack on Iran. After the American lie about "Iraqi weapons of mass destruction," the analyst writes, few people can believe in the threat of "Iranian nuclear weapons" as an excuse for a military operation. In any case, the Americans will not be able to carry out the necessary resolution through the UN Security Council: Russia and China will not allow it.

    Yes, they wanted to spit on the approval of the Security Council, and without it, if necessary, they would start. When did it stop them?
    As for the cost of waging a war, they most likely do not bother either - a trillion more, a trillion less ... the rest of the world will pay.