Russian media report the detention of the head of the Main Personnel Directorate of the Russian Defense Ministry, Yuri Kuznetsov.

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Russian media report the detention of the head of the Main Personnel Directorate of the Russian Defense Ministry, Yuri Kuznetsov.

The head of the Main Personnel Directorate of the Ministry of Defense, Yuri Kuznetsov, was detained as part of a criminal case, this information is being disseminated by Russian media. What exactly the lieutenant general is suspected of is not reported.

According to available data, on the eve of May 13, the 235th Garrison Court of Moscow received materials regarding the full namesake of the head of the department in the framework of a criminal case for choosing a preventive measure in the form of detention. A number of Russian TG channels claim that we are talking specifically about the head of the personnel department of the Ministry of Defense, Yuri Kuznetsov.



According to TASS, citing an informed source, the investigation is being conducted by the Main Military Investigation Department of the Investigative Committee. However, what the general is accused of is again not reported. The Ministry of Defense does not comment on this information in any way; there is no confirmation or refutation.

So far, the following is known: the day before, the garrison court received materials to select a preventive measure against Yuri Kuznetsov; there is no information about the court’s decision. It is also reported that searches were carried out at the place of work and residence of the accused. At the same time, there is no information about the article of accusation, etc.

The Ministry of Defense website contains the following information about Yuri Kuznetsov: 55 years old, graduated from the Krasnodar Higher Military School in 1990, the Military Academy of Strategic Missile Forces in 1998, and the Military Academy of the General Staff in 2005. In 2010, he was appointed head of the 8th Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Federation. In 2023, he headed the Personnel Directorate of the Ministry of Defense. Lieutenant General, has departmental awards.
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  1. +42
    14 May 2024 06: 23
    Somehow the Moscow Region has become like a breeding ground for crimes. You need to weed out such a weed with its roots
    1. +12
      14 May 2024 06: 39
      . You need to weed out such a weed with its roots

      Well, it looks like that’s why they put a civilian
      1. +3
        14 May 2024 06: 53
        Personnel decides everything?
        Or are they destroying?
        What kind of crime can be committed in footage? Selling positions? Like, whoever gives the most is the commander?
        1. +5
          14 May 2024 07: 03
          An interesting trend is emerging in the Ministry of Defense!
          1. +4
            14 May 2024 09: 53
            Quote: krot
            An interesting trend is emerging in the Ministry of Defense!

            Yeah. Career growth in the opposite direction.
            He was the head of the State Administration of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, now he will become a librarian in the zone, he will issue books to former deputy Timur Ivanov + deprivation of his rank, state awards, prison and 10 years until retirement on a general basis.
            1. +1
              14 May 2024 14: 17
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Quote: krot
              An interesting trend is emerging in the Ministry of Defense!

              Yeah. Career growth in the opposite direction.
              He was the head of the State Administration of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, now he will become a librarian in the zone, he will issue books to former deputy Timur Ivanov + deprivation of his rank, state awards, prison and 10 years until retirement on a general basis.

              If so. But they will start sharing what they got and everything will be counted as undercover work, and therefore there will be a new post ahead...
            2. +1
              15 May 2024 11: 47
              He will be released on parole and will live to live and remember his past service...
        2. +20
          14 May 2024 07: 03
          Quote: Bearded
          Selling positions?

          Not my level. But in my district and during my service in the North Caucasus Military District there was a price list, columns with tasty things were sent to Moscow! And in my opinion, just look at some of the “military” in the leadership in the Dior uniform!
          1. +1
            15 May 2024 09: 12
            There are a lot of beautiful girls there, it’s almost blinding to the eye - the figure, the plaster, and the position.
            Probably, as in the old song it will be “well, and then the girls, and then the girls.”
        3. +24
          14 May 2024 07: 19
          Quote: Bearded
          What kind of crime can be committed in footage?
          It's not as harmless as it seems. Alternatively, the first thing that comes to mind is office furniture at the price of what the Supreme Commander has in his office. Premium company cars... You never know... Government procurement was invented by very naive people who firmly believe in the honesty of officials.

          About 15 years ago, abroad, in Europe, I lived in a hotel on the same floor with the governor of one of the regions - the price of a room per day is comparable to the annual budget of some working-class village in his region. I lived on my own money, on vacation. He was on a “business trip” with a whole staff of “assistants” and his family for government money.
          If you dig deeper into the targeted spending of funds in any government office, it will be the same.
          And you say ...
          Quote: Bearded
          what crime can be committed in footage?
          1. +10
            14 May 2024 08: 57
            No, you mixed up the folders with criminal cases.
            Selling chairs is the boss's business.
            And here is the chief of construction. Positions. Who to serve where? Some in Moscow, and some in Chukotka. Who to fire, who to call up...
        4. +11
          14 May 2024 07: 19
          Selling positions? Like, whoever gives the most is the commander?
          Judging by how much you can “earn” from these positions, even by selling them you can make quite a fortune.
        5. +13
          14 May 2024 07: 20
          Certainly. What you protect is what you have. He didn’t sell lieutenant positions and shoulder straps.
          Plus the payroll of the RF Armed Forces, with addresses and other things.
          And this is still the most primitive thing.
          I'm quietly amazed at who they took, what capabilities he had.
          And what could a person with his position and access do?
          1. GAF
            +2
            14 May 2024 13: 21
            “I’m quietly amazed at who they took, what capabilities he had.”

            Who else will they take? After the start of the Northern Military District, when discussing the volunteer movement, there was a reference to the opinion of the Deputy Minister of the Ministry of Defense for Supply of the general (I don’t remember his full name) that the armed forces on the front line are provided with everything necessary, and the fuss of providing assistance to the front is unnecessary.....
        6. +10
          14 May 2024 07: 23
          He was in charge of the department up to Personnel 8, and there the documents were classified as top secret.
        7. +12
          14 May 2024 07: 35
          I think things there stretch back to his command of the 8th Directorate. The handsome guy traded secrets for the campaign, just like Timurka
        8. +4
          14 May 2024 07: 58
          Quote: Bearded
          What kind of crime can be committed in footage?

          “In 2010, he was appointed head of the eighth directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces (this body of the military directorate of the General Staff heads the Service for the Protection of State Secrets, and in fact deals with the technical protection of information). He headed the Personnel Directorate of the Ministry of Defense a year ago, in May 2023.”
        9. +6
          14 May 2024 08: 04
          Do you think that the head of the personnel department of the Moscow City Police Department had a wagonload of money for beautiful eyes? I think it’s better to work in Honduras than to work in Honduras in Kolyma. Think for yourself where it is warmer to serve in coal mines or Adler.
        10. +6
          14 May 2024 08: 39
          Quote: Bearded
          Selling positions? Like, whoever gives the most is the commander?

          Yes, and for a long time. They either move their own people into “grain” and prestigious positions, or for the sake of... To be fair, this has already been going on since the early 2000s.
          1. +1
            14 May 2024 08: 46
            And even much earlier. The text of your comment is too short and, in the opinion of the site administration, does not contain useful information.
          2. +1
            14 May 2024 09: 29
            Come on, all this comes from the Union.))
            1. 0
              15 May 2024 10: 56
              Why from the Union? Wasn’t this something like this before? Everything comes from somewhere. And no one can change human nature: eat as sweetly as possible and for as long as possible and so that nothing happens to you for it.
            2. 0
              15 May 2024 13: 58
              Of course, it is not appropriate for the tsar to say a word in front of the cattle, but still I would like to hear from the person “responsible for everything that happens in the country”, who is to blame for the Polovtsians, the Pechenegs, the bloody tyrant, or still Lenin?
          3. +2
            14 May 2024 09: 33
            This has been going on all the time, since the creation of the world. Everyone is trying to improve their team.
        11. +1
          14 May 2024 09: 04
          Yes, many different ones. For example, transferring information about personnel to the enemy or stealing money, but you never know
        12. Elk
          +1
          14 May 2024 11: 06
          And not only positions, but also titles.
        13. +3
          14 May 2024 11: 10
          Quote: Bearded
          What kind of crime can be committed in footage?

          Probably a lot of things can be accomplished, judging by the amount earned through back-breaking labor... Then a message arrived about the results of the search:
          This was announced today, May 14, by the official representative of the Russian Investigative Committee, Svetlana Petrenko.

          “The Main Investigation Department of the Russian Investigative Committee has opened a criminal case against the head of the personnel department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Yuri Kuznetsov. He is suspected of receiving a bribe on an especially large scale (Part 6 of Article 290 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), she said. “During searches at the places of actual residence and registration of the suspect, funds in rubles and foreign currency in the amount of more than 100 million rubles, gold coins, collectible watches and luxury items were discovered and seized.”
        14. +5
          14 May 2024 11: 18
          Quote: Bearded
          What kind of crime can be committed in footage? Selling positions? Like, whoever gives the most is the commander?

          Position, rank, awards, place of service - personnel decides everything! wassat And don’t forget, this is Medvedev’s protege, the former head of the 8th Department of the Moscow Region, responsible for state secrets. A bribe taker is a godsend for a spy! laughing And the scale of corruption among security forces is depressing. hi
        15. +2
          14 May 2024 11: 45
          Questions arose for Kuznetsov within the framework of his leadership of the 8th Directorate of the General Staff (the service for protecting state secrets).
        16. -2
          14 May 2024 12: 06
          Quote: Bearded
          What kind of crime can be committed in footage? Selling positions?

          Personnel officer, this is a very satisfying job. In order to have the opportunity to serve in a “warm” place, in a “non-dusty” position, many are willing to pay.
          1. +2
            14 May 2024 13: 31
            //////For the opportunity to serve in a “warm” place, in a “non-dusty” position, many are willing to pay.///////

            Come on... No one would attempt these things of his. There's something bigger there, much bigger.
          2. +1
            14 May 2024 15: 46
            In the Ministry of Internal Affairs system, one of the employees in 2005 or 2006, in my opinion, was the head of the Internal Affairs Directorate of one of the provincial regions, he got the job for 200 thousand dollars and 200 kg of red caviar, with subsequent confirmation that it was not in vain that he sat in the position 1-2 times a year delivering caviar from 200 and more kg. Something like this(. Well, then rotation, went to another region, they will get a general
        17. +1
          14 May 2024 16: 09
          What kind of crime can be committed in footage?

          Take a look at this entry in his “work book”.

          In 2010 year appointed head of the 8th Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Federation.
      2. +5
        14 May 2024 07: 34
        Well, it looks like that’s why they put a civilian

        It’s absolutely true that Deputy Shoigu was “removed” for the inauguration, which provides for a change of cabinet.
        The MO consists of several groups of interests, it would not be logical to appoint one of these groups, so they appointed a person from the outside to clear the ranks of everyone...
      3. +2
        14 May 2024 07: 45
        Were you not civilians before? What about the former and several of his deputies, what about the one before him?
      4. -1
        14 May 2024 10: 00
        Well, it looks like that’s why they assigned a civilian...
        Don't they steal in civilian life?
        Don't make fun of my slippers!..
        Belousov was tasked not with fighting corruption in the Defense Ministry, but with integrating military production into the Russian economy.
        Bring out of the shadows.
        Make it clear.
      5. +2
        14 May 2024 10: 28
        So that he is not connected with them by family relations and mutual responsibility.
      6. 0
        14 May 2024 12: 00
        1990 ... Krasnodar Higher Military School, in 1998 ... Military Academy of Strategic Missile Forces, in 2005 - Military Academy of the General Staff.

        I wonder who (or what) provided him with such career advancement. I never ! I can’t believe what he achieved on his own, without a pusher. Now, probably, there will be purges of the personnel departments of large headquarters and departments, and not only in the Arbat fortified region. Get ready for the next one.
        1. +1
          14 May 2024 12: 55
          I graduated from this school. He talked with a teacher who knew him and taught him. He was smart and a careerist. I did a lot of things for the sake of stars, not very pleasant ones. And in the end, the HRT service became paper troops, when what is important is not the actual protection of information, but the presence of a piece of paper like some kind of act or letter. There was such a ball of snakes in the management itself; a person could never be rotted for anything. Denunciations and fawning are commonplace there.
          1. 0
            14 May 2024 13: 39
            Krasnodar Higher Military School named after Army General S. M. Shtemenko. As I understand it, Strategic Missile Forces or ZGT specialists were trained there? and further advanced training at the Military Academy of Strategic Missile Forces. I do not understand.
      7. 0
        14 May 2024 13: 28
        /////////You need to weed such a weed with roots //////

        ////////Well, it seems that’s why they installed a civilian ////////

        If you are not aware of the matter, we have had civilian ministers of defense since the beginning of the 2000s. Belousov's predecessor, also a civilian.
    2. +25
      14 May 2024 06: 39
      Things went well for the leadership of the Moscow Region. Serious cleaning is needed. It no longer smells of corruption schemes, but of treason. She and citizen Ivanov are charged. Stalin managed to carry out the purge before the War, and we would not be late.
      1. +20
        14 May 2024 07: 17
        Quote: bayard
        Needs serious cleaning

        A serious cleanup is needed throughout the government. Almost everyone there is like that, thanks to our “galley slave”. It’s just that the SVO shows some moments, while others continue to remain invisible.
        1. +7
          14 May 2024 07: 35
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          Almost everyone there is like that, thanks to our “galley slave”.

          Well, everyone is probably a strong word, but individuals for sure! For example, the old Komsomol-party “lady” crushed Kislovodsk and turned it into a family fiefdom. Another hoarse, corrupt official, the commander of industry and trade, “privatized” Gelendzhik and its surroundings... There are more, of course! Yes
          But! The Tsar is good, these boyars are bad! wink
          1. +6
            14 May 2024 08: 36
            Quote: LIONnvrsk
            Well, that's it - it's probably said loudly

            Almost everything - with the rarest exceptions. You see, the government will always be corrupt to some extent, the temptations are too great. Even if you shoot and imprison 25 with confiscation. But in our country, all power is built on the principle “you are faithful to me, and I turn a blind eye to your arts,” this is essentially the general line of the party.
            Like everywhere else, there are honest people there, but... as an exception to the rule.
      2. +1
        14 May 2024 22: 11
        Several of Shoigu’s deputies have already submitted reports of dismissal. One of whom had children with American citizenship. One of his favorites, who was in charge of accounting for the Moscow Region, also quit. And even before the Ministry of Defense, I think I worked with him.

        The Investigative Committee confirmed Kuznetsov's arrest this morning. According to the official representative of the Investigative Committee, Kuznetsov is accused of receiving a bribe on an especially large scale. I wonder what in return?
        1. 0
          14 May 2024 22: 29
          Quote: alystan
          Kuznetsov is accused of receiving a bribe on an especially large scale. I wonder what in return?

          He is also accused of this for his “exploits” in his previous position, when he headed the 8th Directorate and was responsible for maintaining secrecy. He allowed a cunning company for a bribe to work on laying fiber optic lines to units and facilities of the Strategic Missile Forces...
          Quote: alystan
          Several of Shoigu’s deputies have already submitted reports of dismissal. One of whom had children with American citizenship. One of his favorites, who was in charge of accounting for the Moscow Region, also quit.

          This is just the beginning, there is still so much work for Hercules in the “Augean Stables”.
          And this is in war conditions.
          1. 0
            14 May 2024 22: 36
            I know that in his previous position he got into development.
            What could businessmen be interested in in the secrets of the General Staff of the Moscow Region?
            Either the businessmen were not serious, or the investigation gave us a not entirely successful legend “to divert attention.”
            1. +1
              14 May 2024 22: 51
              Quote: alystan
              The investigation gave us a not entirely successful legend.

              So Ivanov is accused of treason against his homeland.
              Or do you think that a top-secret communication system can be installed by a “cunning company” for a bribe to the head of the department?
              Quote: alystan
              What could businessmen be interested in the secrets of the General Staff of the Moscow Region?

              Are you serious ?
              1. 0
                14 May 2024 23: 02
                Either the businessmen were not real

                Does this mean anything to you?
    3. +30
      14 May 2024 06: 44
      Quote: rusich
      Somehow the Moscow Region has become like a breeding ground for crimes. You need to weed out such a weed with its roots

      But mobilization in 2022 showed nothing?
      And the third year of the SVO does not push you to think about anything?
    4. +12
      14 May 2024 06: 46
      It's just the bottom. There is nowhere to go further. After the SVO, you need to change the army. From the trenches to the cadres. From frames to cameras.
      1. +4
        14 May 2024 11: 36
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        From the trenches to the cadres. From frames to cameras.

        laughing After the Northern Military District they will try to get rid of the “trenchmen”, just as they got rid of them after the Chechens. Nervous, shell-shocked, having seen death - do not fit into the market, and horror of horrors - they can call a nit a nit, and not dear Ivan Ivanovich wink By the way, they have now remembered the Chechen comfrey soldiers, and are calling them up from the reserves for the Northern Military District. It's not for the parquet floor to do the dirty work. hi
        1. 0
          15 May 2024 09: 18
          Nervous, shell-shocked, having seen death - do not fit into the market, and horror of horrors - they can call a nit a nit, and not dear Ivan Ivanovich- "Afghans" fit into their time
          The "Chechens" of PChV fit in.
          What makes you think that these won't fit in?
          And those who did NOT fit in - alleys in cemeteries. And the luckier “colleagues” put them there

          The naive belief that only the best survive on the front end - the nimble and cunning survive. And the best, honest, brave, decent ones usually die.
          1. 0
            15 May 2024 12: 47
            Quote: your1970
            What makes you think that these won't fit in?

            You write about the criminal market, organized crime groups that protect their business on their own. I write about the "social elevators" of power ministries. Afghan-Gromov..., Chechnya-Lebed, Troshev, Kazantsev, Rokhlin... which of them has integrated into the system?
            Quote: your1970
            The naive belief that only the best survive on the front end - the nimble and cunning survive.

            I agree, but brave and decent people can also be cunning and nimble. wink
            1. 0
              15 May 2024 12: 57
              Afghan-Gromov..., Chechnya-Lebed, Troshev, Kazantsev, Rokhlin... which of them has integrated into the system?
              governor(12 years in the Moscow region!!!), politician, etc. - NOT fitting in?
              Oh well....
              I agree, but brave and decent people can also be cunning and nimble - can not. They cannot stand behind someone’s back at the right moment or disappear to the rear in time.
              Therefore, personally, I would be careful not to let them into power - into the army, no more...
              1. 0
                15 May 2024 13: 10
                Quote: your1970
                governor (12 years in the Moscow region!!!), politician, etc. - NOT fitting in?

                The governor is a civilian position; there was no continuation of his military career. Pasha's Mercedes turned out to be faster lol
                Quote: your1970
                They cannot stand behind someone’s back at the right moment or disappear to the rear in time

                You gave the definition of a coward (hide behind someone’s back, run to the rear), a career, especially a military one, is not his and business is not his either (a coward does not play hockey, he who does not take risks does not drink champagne - popular wisdom. ) hi
                1. 0
                  15 May 2024 13: 17
                  The governor is a civilian position; there was no continuation of his military career. you originally wrote about "those who do not fit into the market" - and there are a lot of security forces who have gone through all this and they are all in system were. Including trench ones - whoever wanted.

                  You gave a definition - a coward, a career, especially a military one, is not his and business is not his either (a coward does not play hockey, he who does not take risks does not drink champagne - folk wisdom.) hi the likelihood of a coward, cunning and nimble to survive is much higher. Naturally, this is not the case, but more of them survive after any war than honest and decent people
                  1. 0
                    15 May 2024 13: 26
                    Quote: your1970
                    Naturally, this is not the case, but more of them survive after any war than honest and decent people

                    I would like it to be the other way around. We didn't have panties. hi
                    1. 0
                      15 May 2024 14: 45
                      I would like it to be the other way around. We didn't have panties. - The “Tashkent Front” has existed at all times. It’s not for nothing that Vysotsky sang “about Seryozha Fomin”...
    5. +14
      14 May 2024 06: 57
      Well, yes, a piece of fruit with foulbrood... We’re not talking about the structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. There is quiet horror there.
    6. 0
      14 May 2024 08: 53
      Konashenkov is also a lieutenant general. Coincidence? Not .................
      1. +1
        14 May 2024 10: 38
        The head of the personnel department of the RF Ministry of Defense Kuznetsov was arrested on suspicion of bribery

        During the searches, the official was found with cash in the amount of about 100 million rubles, as well as gold coins, collectible watches and luxury items.

        A criminal case has been opened against the head of the personnel department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Yuri Kuznetsov. The official is suspected of receiving a bribe on an especially large scale. The court decided to arrest. The Investigative Committee (IC) of Russia reported this on Tuesday, May 14.

        “A criminal case has been opened against the head of the personnel department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Yuri Kuznetsov. He is suspected of receiving a bribe on an especially large scale,” said a message published on the department’s Telegram channel.

        According to the investigation, in the period from 2021 to 2023, Kuznetsov received a bribe from representatives of commercial structures. At that time, he served as head of the eighth directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

        https://www.kp.ru/online/news/5805909/
        1. +1
          14 May 2024 11: 46
          Quote: Nexcom
          Kuznetsov received a bribe from representatives of commercial structures.

          What kind of intelligence service did this commercial structure work for if it is interested in state secrets of the Moscow Region? hi
          1. +1
            14 May 2024 11: 52
            Well, how do I know this? But the press doesn’t write about it... hi
    7. 0
      14 May 2024 12: 12
      The root has already been transplanted into another pot.
  2. +11
    14 May 2024 06: 23
    Another thief turned out to be
  3. +16
    14 May 2024 06: 30
    For Kuznetsov, turning out to be a thief is the easiest option for him, but if the accusation is related to his previous work in the 8th Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Federation, then this is an ass for all of us.
    1. +8
      14 May 2024 06: 32
      this is an ass for all of us.

      And for what?
      1. +18
        14 May 2024 06: 50
        Because this man was guarding secrets. Willy-nilly, the question arises: to whom, when and how much.
    2. +18
      14 May 2024 06: 50
      Otherwise, I see how unbridled NATO behaves... Apparently they know something that they should never know...
      1. +1
        14 May 2024 13: 33
        Apparently they know something that they should never know...

        So, complete transparency was observed even before the SVO. Biden was not shy about publicly announcing our plans...
  4. -13
    14 May 2024 06: 33
    Shoigu resigns and is immediately imprisoned. They investigated him in his presence, but they imprisoned him without him. And the Secretary of the Security Council, this is an obvious “promotion and demotion.” Did you take the blame? If so, it’s a pity - he’s a good manager.
    1. +19
      14 May 2024 06: 42
      Is the manager good??? Yes, with a good manager this rot would not exist... However, the current system of relationships will spoil any good person.
      1. +3
        14 May 2024 07: 58
        A good Ministry of Emergency Situations almost got killed!
      2. -1
        15 May 2024 09: 46
        Is the manager good??? Yes, with a good manager this rot wouldn’t exist.. Under Stalin, a good manager, 5 or 6 generals were shot for embezzlement during the war. The middle and lower echelons of the rear guards broke away as best they could.
        The fake military unit confirms...
        There was no correspondence with her, commissions/inspectors did not come to her, secretaries/encryptors did not work, special officers were not interested.....
        Only finance and awards like that strangely passed it on and that's it...
        This is a chain of dough up to command of the front - no lower
        1. +1
          15 May 2024 11: 42
          Yes, for you Stalin is like a red rag for a bull Yes Just like Soviet society. But live now, I don’t want to...
          1. -1
            15 May 2024 12: 14
            Yes, for you Stalin is like a red rag for a bull - no, just me realist and I understand that he also had to maneuver among clans and “elites”. Possessing forces, means, finances and people..
            Or do you think it’s just that “Bonapartism” got into the Red Army before and after the war?
            It was possible to appoint Zhukov to the NGSH of the Red Army (with “Unsuitable for staff and teaching work”) either under pressure or because there were no more suitable ones at all.. ..
            This confirms Stalin’s idea that personnel decide everything.

            Just like Soviet society.
            I don’t like Soviet society, but attributing to it something that was never there and double standards.
            I’m sure that 90% of those who praised him - if he were suddenly in the USSR now - they would quietly freak out (mat) in surprise. They're stupidly screwed now...

            And I repeat - I hate it double standarts level of “Now it’s complete - and then it was paradise.” I’ll give you a complete analogue of the demons in paradise - “you’re anti-Soviet” or “This is not a shield, Stalin wasn’t here anymore”

            Here is an example with the fake part - you served, you know - the vertical of power, access, secrets, awards, etc.
            Why did SMERSH or the checkpoints never inquire about the part with the stamp from the heels, where they took the forms, on the basis of which the higher-ranking stick leaders signed awards in the part that was not on the lists, where they took gasoline without invoices and intake sheets....
            And so on.
            A banal telephone number without a call sign - some of it is not on the lists, but what if it was the Germans who got in touch?
            Как minimum the general commander of the rear of their front was involved. Roofs at a lower level would crumble within a week...
    2. +13
      14 May 2024 06: 44
      Yeah, he’s good, he’s good, it’s not clear what exactly he’s good at
      Apparently in the ability to show off dust and read beautiful reports that have no connection with reality. About rearmament and stuff
    3. +16
      14 May 2024 06: 46
      Quote: Grizzled Dashing
      Shoigu resigns and is immediately imprisoned.

      But it’s always like this with us...Wait until Putin leaves...
    4. +8
      14 May 2024 08: 41
      Quote: Grizzled Dashing
      If so, then it’s a pity - he’s a good manager.

      Is this about Shoigu? If yes, then they made you laugh, although it’s a kind of laughter through tears.
  5. +26
    14 May 2024 06: 37
    Is Krivoruchko next?

    “According to independent investigations, Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Alexey Krivoruchko is married to Ekaterina Toropova, 2012, whose daughter was born in Miami, and who, by right of birth, received an American passport.

    According to the investigation, six years before his appointment, while still the head of the Kalashnikov Concern Krivoruchko visited the United States 26 times, mostly visiting Miami. In 2011, he opened a company there, for which he registered an apartment with an area of ​​255 square meters and worth several million dollars. But after some time, he transferred the company to an employee of his company, Mikhail Tiraturyan. This is supposed to be one of the denominations of Krivoruchko’s possessions.

    Journalists also found information that already on September 23, 2016 Krivoruchko's second daughter Anna was born in the USA, who also received the right to American citizenship. As Shoigu’s deputy, Alexey Krivoruchko began buying expensive real estate in Russia. For example, in 2019, he built a house with an area of ​​1500 square meters on a plot of 35 acres on Rublyovka. Now his real estate is hidden in the Rosreestr database, since recently all declarations of officials, including representatives of the Ministry of Defense, have been classified
    . "
    @grey_zone

    It's a shame if it's true
    Who did the Tuvan marshal surround himself with?! Raven to crow?
    Prigogine was right about everything!
    1. +2
      14 May 2024 06: 43
      who by birthright received an American passport.
      By right of birth one is not given an American passport, but the right to receive one upon application at age 18. This is how they covered up the whole thing with Nigerian women who were going to see the Statue of Liberty Yes with a belly, induced labor with the help of underground doctors, and remained as the closest relatives of a born US citizen.
      Who did the Tuvan marshal surround himself with?
      I surrounded him with whoever needed it Yes .
      1. +2
        14 May 2024 07: 22
        They give American citizenship, not a passport. The parent does not have the right to remain in the US on this basis, but the child may return to the US at 18 years of age.
        1. -2
          14 May 2024 07: 35
          Gives American citizenship
          They give the right to obtain citizenship. If an 18 (or later) year old does not need it for some reason, then he does not become a citizen.
          1. +1
            14 May 2024 07: 48
            Do a search on the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution.
            1. +1
              14 May 2024 14: 50
              Don’t you think that US citizenship seems like a coveted gift from heaven not for everyone on the planet?
    2. -3
      14 May 2024 07: 45
      Quote: Ivan№One
      According to the investigation, six years before his appointment, while still the head of the Kalashnikov Concern, Krivoruchko visited the United States 26 times, mostly visiting Miami. In 2011, he opened a company there, for which he registered an apartment with an area of ​​255 square meters and worth several million dollars.
      recourse “What if this is love?” (Title of the film) To a beautiful life..... But an excellent family man and a reliable social activist. feel
    3. +6
      14 May 2024 08: 16
      And there is also this Mr. Tsalikov, whom Shoigu has been dragging along with him for 30 years. If Ivanov was considered Kuzhugetovich’s left hand, then Tsalikov, without a doubt, was the right. We wait...
    4. +3
      14 May 2024 11: 59
      Yes, it looks like Prigogine knew too much.
    5. 0
      15 May 2024 10: 03
      as recently, ALL declarations of officials, including representatives of the Ministry of Defense, have been classified.”
      @grey_zone

      - this slightly lies. The declarations of security forces and members of the SVO are classified - no more. The rest are served as usual.

      Prigogine was right about everything! man under red drowns the flag for the dollar billionaire - oligarch?
      But....
      There was something wrong with the supply of food to the army by his companies, no? The stew apparently had too much meat content - probably...
      And there was something fun with breakfasts at schools...

      He is in SOVIET times I would have received a bullet in the back of the head for any from my manipulations - no options...
  6. +9
    14 May 2024 06: 38
    materials regarding the full namesake of the head of the department in the framework of a criminal case

    This moronic phrase wanders from one media to another. Which Kuznetsov exactly is still not clear. Well, there's already a lot of noise.
    1. +9
      14 May 2024 06: 49
      What the general is accused of is again not reported
      Probably exceeded the speed limit!
      In short, it’s not a military organization but a breeding ground for you know who!
    2. 0
      14 May 2024 06: 59
      It seems that the namesake is the Fly Agaric from "Street of Broken Lanterns".
      “The minister is in town! What do you have?” stop
  7. +8
    14 May 2024 06: 39
    Apparently it's time to sweep out the garbage, 20 years without a general cleaning, a lot of living creatures have grown up.
    1. +17
      14 May 2024 06: 45
      Here it’s generally not clear where to start the cleanup... It looks like it’s from the Kremlin... If the most important one doesn’t control, but only delegates to someone, leaving nothing to do with it... What can I say.
      1. +4
        14 May 2024 08: 59
        If the most important person does not control, but only delegates to someone, remaining with nothing to do with it..

        But as he says, the welfare of the people is improving, life has become better, richer. The only question is, who began to live better - the answer arises in this article, these are the thieves with whom the “guarantor” has surrounded himself, starting with members of the government, officials at various levels, oligarchs, who have been legitimized robbery at the state level... That’s because This is why we live so “richly”, because everyone at his own level robs the country, sells it in parts, exports capital to his second (permanent residence) ...
        1. +1
          14 May 2024 10: 31
          Interesting news... The namesake of the general from the Ministry of Defense was arrested... Damn, the whole country already knows.. And here - “he looks like the prosecutor general” (c).. Yeah..
    2. +7
      14 May 2024 06: 46
      Apparently it's time to sweep out the trash, 20 years without a spring cleaning
      This should have been done earlier, before the start of the SVO
      1. +10
        14 May 2024 07: 40
        This should have been done earlier, before the start of the SVO

        To do this, you had to have wisdom, and not just old age.'' But Stalin is of course a tyrant and executioner.''
  8. +5
    14 May 2024 06: 39
    “We are talking specifically about the head of the personnel department of the Ministry of Defense” -

    — “Personnel decides everything”...
    1. +14
      14 May 2024 06: 49
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      — “Personnel decides everything”...

      It was under Lenin that cadres decided everything. Nowadays, personnel must agree with the management’s decision, implementation is not necessary...
      1. -2
        15 May 2024 10: 07
        It was under Lenin that cadres decided everything. Nowadays, personnel must agree with the management’s decision, implementation is not necessary...
        Zhigarev?
        Voroshilov?
        Kalinin?
        And 3 more echelons...
  9. +2
    14 May 2024 06: 43
    Head of the Main Personnel Directorate of the Ministry of Defense Yuri Kuznetsov was detained as part of a criminal case
    The process has begun! wink
  10. +5
    14 May 2024 06: 46
    My personal conviction is that executions are absolutely necessary. Especially in the officer corps, there is no place for swindlers and corrupt officials. Also, tear off shoulder straps before the formation.
    1. +7
      14 May 2024 08: 24
      Where can you find honest and incorruptible people to trust them with compiling hit lists? In our reality, this activity will be “monetized”, like any other. For not being included in these lists, and, on the contrary, for your competitor to be included in them, such a hefty price tag will be assigned, and they will pay.
      1. +1
        15 May 2024 10: 09
        In our reality, this activity will be “monetized”, like any other. For not being included in these lists, and, on the contrary, for your competitor to be included in them, such a hefty price tag will be assigned, and they will pay. that is why during the NEP period the Cheka was liquidated - the powers of the OGPU were significantly curtailed. So that they don’t start making lists too...
    2. +1
      14 May 2024 08: 31
      You can drive them through the ranks, hit them with ramrods. In the fleet you can use gramps and let them pass under the keel. Good old traditions
      1. +6
        14 May 2024 09: 18
        Quote: Knizhnik
        Good old traditions
        The good old tradition is when an officer put a bullet in his temple if he was suspected of a dishonorable act! Now the concept of officer honor has been somewhat... optimized!
        1. +3
          14 May 2024 11: 00
          A bullet to the temple is about honest officers, we are not talking about them here. And thieves and traitors in uniform, alas, did not appear yesterday or 300 years ago.
    3. +1
      14 May 2024 13: 51
      ///////My personal conviction is that executions are absolutely necessary. Especially in the officer corps, there is no place for swindlers and corrupt officials. Also tear off shoulder straps before the formation.////////


      The fact is that many of them have fake shoulder straps - fake ones. And if they are thwarted, then these “generals” will not experience any moral trauma.
  11. +2
    14 May 2024 06: 57
    Main Personnel Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

    Functional:
    The presence of rich service experience and strong business skills allow officers and civilian personnel of the State Administration to quickly and efficiently carry out the tasks assigned to them.
    These at the present stage include the following:
    - formation and implementation of personnel policy in the Armed Forces;
    organization of military service for military personnel under contract;
    planning, organizing and controlling the recruitment of the Armed Forces with contract military personnel;
    - organizing the entry of citizens into the state civil service, its passage and termination;
    - organization of staffing for filling employee positions;
    - organizing work with citizens who have the military rank of officer and are in the reserves of the Armed Forces;
    - long-term and current planning for the training and accumulation of reserve officers;
    - general management of military training of citizens in military training centers, faculties of military training and military departments at federal state educational institutions of higher professional education;
    - organizing work on rewarding military personnel and civilian personnel and presenting them with state awards of the Russian Federation and departmental insignia of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation;
    - organizing staffing for international military and military-technical cooperation activities of the Russian Federation with foreign states and international organizations;
    - organizing the departure of military personnel and civilian personnel from the Russian Federation;
    - organizing the provision of services to foreign states for the training of national military personnel and technical personnel;
    - prevention of corruption and other offenses;
    - organization and maintenance of personal and statistical records of officers undergoing military service under a contract and reserve officers, records of military personnel by personal numbers, personal and statistical records of civilian personnel.


    и

    - participation in the development and implementation of the Concept and Plan for the construction of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation;
    - preparation of draft normative legal acts on issues of public service, regulation of labor relations with employees of military units and organizations, as well as on the organization of work with citizens who have the military rank of officer and are in the reserves of the Armed Forces;
    - organization of work to consider appeals from citizens and organizations on issues of working with contract military personnel and civilian personnel received by the Main Personnel Directorate;
    - formation of state orders in assigned areas of activity.
  12. +7
    14 May 2024 07: 06
    For some reason, none of the commentators pay attention to the fact that Kuznetsov has had a mind-blowing career over 20 years.
    1. +2
      14 May 2024 07: 22
      tralflot1832 (Andrey S.)

      "Beware of the Car" (1966)
      “This leg belongs to the one who needs the leg!”
    2. +4
      14 May 2024 07: 26
      For some reason, none of the commentators pay attention to the fact that Kuznetsov has had a mind-blowing career over 20 years.

      so it developed well before
      I graduated from college in 1990 and from the General Staff Academy in 2005 - I can’t explain such growth in 15 years
    3. +13
      14 May 2024 08: 39
      A normal career, but what's wrong?
      You just need to get married right! For example, on a relative of a certain Luzhkov.
      By the way, it is his wife who is the author of the book “My Uncle Luzhkov” and it is completely incomprehensible how the main guardian of state secrets did not prevent his wife from direct contacts with an American institution and the publication of a book in which the existing state system in the Russian Federation is attacked, as well as the bodies of the Federal Security Service RF.
    4. +2
      15 May 2024 10: 12
      Well, in 8 years it was quite easy to grow up to the Academy beforeI personally knew about a dozen lieutenants who were rushing to the top; at about this age, they received a major and left to study.
      WITHOUT hairy arms
  13. 0
    14 May 2024 07: 10
    Does anyone really think that if you look into ANY department, any administration, you won’t find any violations (crimes, negligence....)?
  14. +16
    14 May 2024 07: 13
    So, whatever control you take, just shake the top of the tree, there will be such fruit lying around..... In general, there should be a lot of questions for everyone. When I see a car for 32 million rubles in my modest city, I have a question, where does the money come from? And there is no need to say that you have earned it, because if you honestly run a business, such an asset looks superfluous and not profitable, if a person has money for luxury, then it seems to me that questions should be asked by the competent authorities, but in fact, they often ask me questions, although I I have never seen a life worth more than 500 thousand rubles.....
  15. +10
    14 May 2024 07: 48
    According to the classic - “I acknowledge my guilt.
    Meru. Power. Depth
    And ask me to send
    On the current war.

    There is no war - I will accept everything -
    The link. Hard labor The prison.

    But preferably in July,
    And preferably in Crimea."
  16. 0
    14 May 2024 08: 01
    I forgot something, from which side does surströming begin to prepare?
  17. +6
    14 May 2024 08: 04
    What exactly the lieutenant general is suspected of is not reported

    I suppose someone got the rank of army general in the military for money.
    The show "Timur and his team" continues.
    It's high time to clean it up.
  18. +3
    14 May 2024 08: 05
    Antiresna, will the generals remain by inheritance or will they take fresh ones?
  19. +10
    14 May 2024 08: 07
    The funny thing is that even before the SVO, liberal channels, which were banned and destroyed, talked about theft in the army. And Shoigu’s department was defended by dedicated patriots
  20. +5
    14 May 2024 08: 09
    "Timur and his team -2"
    1. +3
      14 May 2024 08: 59
      Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira (Sebastian Aristarkhovich)
      I would like to see other sequels of the film until 2026, in the following areas:
      1. Ministry of Industry and Trade, including industry
      2. Ministry of Energy
      3. Ministry of Construction and Housing and Communal Services
      4. Ministry of Economy and Development, creation of free and special economic zones, as well as priority development areas
      5. Ministry of Labor and Health
      as well as in the direction of the Federal Antimonopoly Service, the Federal Customs Service and the Ministry of Transport
  21. +10
    14 May 2024 08: 11
    And our lousy “elite”, which has castles in “deERMOcratic” countries, only counts extra profits and takes them offshore in conjunction with naibulina. And production began to move to China. But I know the owners of small “candle factories” who constantly organize assistance to our soldiers, take part in this themselves and send part of the profits to this assistance in their own
  22. 0
    14 May 2024 08: 16
    Let's go... But the minister has already jumped off, you can’t ask him
    1. 0
      14 May 2024 09: 20
      vvn_vl (Viktor)
      Not certainly in that way.
      The RF Armed Forces will decide based on the degree of severity and other standards, based on the collected data.
      And since 2014 (Crimea), earlier (Syria), etc. the range of data for determining severity is significant.
      The main thing here is to turn on resonance in time. So that there are no closed doors.
    2. +3
      14 May 2024 09: 43
      The minister did not resign, but was transferred to another job. Moreover, in one where there is no one to lead (operatively), and there are practically no people around. A kind of isolation. So you can ask how
  23. +4
    14 May 2024 08: 19
    I suppose he took immeasurable bribes for finding a good and safe place of duty. Where you can wear a uniform once a week for a couple of hours.
    1. +9
      14 May 2024 08: 22
      Yes, there are rumors that there are VIP fine officers who stole in civilian life (governors, officials, their deputies), and then they write applications for SVO in order to have their criminal record expunged. And again they are heroes and again in service
      1. 0
        15 May 2024 10: 16
        fine officers who stole in civilian life (governors, measures, their deputies), and then write applications for the SVO in order to have their criminal record expunged. And again heroes and again in service

        Name
        at least ONE convicted - served - current governor/mayor/deputy. It’s just interesting to know about the warring governor...
        1. 0
          15 May 2024 10: 21
          Rumors. I don’t keep statistics. But there were reports that high-ranking officials suddenly broke down and fled to the Northern Military District
          1. 0
            15 May 2024 10: 27
            Rumors. I don’t keep statistics. But there have been reports

            If a person has been convicted, his verdict is on the court website.
            If the person was in the SVO zone, you can search.
            If a person after this began to occupy a position higher than the senior janitor, it will be in the media.
            И all this information open, legal and accessible.
            Otherwise, these are just rumors from the OBS category.
        2. 0
          15 May 2024 10: 25
          That's about
          https://fedpress.ru/article/3234065
          1. 0
            15 May 2024 10: 45
            That's about
            https://fedpress.ru/article/3234065
            examples given ASSUMED that the person was stealing.
            But conflicts of law are really a problem. The problem of criminals who went to war, even in the Second World War, even now.
            For example, what about awards? What if he really accomplished a feat?
            We have a man walking around the city who killed 2 people and served in Wagner. He only served a year and a half...
            1. 0
              15 May 2024 10: 49
              The conversation is a little different. About VIP battalions, where thieves sit out for a small share and also have awards.
            2. 0
              15 May 2024 10: 58
              We have a man walking around the city who killed 2 people and served in Wagner. He only served a year and a half...

              This is crooked justice. Imagine that he stabbed your relatives. How will it feel for you to see him free?
              1. -1
                15 May 2024 11: 03
                This is crooked justice. Imagine that he stabbed your relatives. How will it feel for you to see him free? Exactly the same problem as the Second World War - or do you think that no one felt sorry for the victims of the bandits at that time?

                another. About VIP battalions, where a thief sits out for a small share and also has awards. he returned to the position of mayor?
                And yes, due to the absence and search, the criminal case was not terminated for one character.
                Therefore, “about battalions” - we’ll wait and see...
  24. +1
    14 May 2024 08: 23
    I sat down on the path, boo-ha-ha. Don’t steal!!!!
  25. +8
    14 May 2024 08: 42
    And they would also check nuclear weapons, who is responsible for them, etc., etc. Just in case, the West is behaving very arrogantly!
  26. +3
    14 May 2024 08: 43
    Only a total cleansing of the ranks will help here; it is necessary to leave only the most experienced military generals who have not stained themselves with corruption and dubious gray schemes, and all these parquet generals must be urgently dismissed.
  27. +3
    14 May 2024 08: 49
    What about other ministries? After all, it has long been known that an honest person will never stay at the top. Because for everyone at the top, his boss in the Team must have a leash in the form of some of your deviations from the law (this is what their own security services and the FSB do). There is no leash - you are uncontrollable, you they will survive in any way, even though the one in charge put you on this. However, there is one subtlety here - if the chair under your boss suddenly wobbles, then, unlike him, you will go not to another place of work, but to the bunk, the place must be vacated by other members of the Teams , and the new Chief, using your example, should show the struggle with the previous one, who ruined everything. This was and will be in control systems, where renewal does not take place not by election, but everything depends on the Will of the first person. However, there is one subtlety. When there are battles actions, about any reshuffles in the Ministries directly involved in them must be kept silent at the level of State Secrets, because this far from contributes to increasing the Authority of the authorities during this special period, but it does contribute to the propaganda of the Goebbels opposing you (coming out). During the Second World War in NGOs, some who were “levelled” for various reasons, especially in 1941-42 (it was clear that there was a reason for it, and dozens of all sorts of mediocrities - sycophants from Team Budyonny, Voroshilov, Timoshenko (no, these were respected...grunts in 1918-21) quite They felt at ease there back in 1941. But the “new” People’s Commissar of Defense whistled at both their Chiefs and these lickers) in all directions. But absolutely quietly. Because it was absolutely necessary to work here absolutely quietly.
  28. +1
    14 May 2024 09: 00
    In all law enforcement agencies, “Accountant”, “Personnel Officer”, “Tilovik-Veshevik” and “Builder” have become extremely influential. The “crickets” need to be seated on their rightful “legs”. For example, civilian ladies without shoulder straps can also be bookkeepers.

    Or better yet, immediately replace them all with IskIntellect. He will calculate and distribute more honestly and quickly. But then, lo and behold, “SysMilitaryAdmin” in marshal’s uniform will come out;)
  29. 0
    14 May 2024 09: 39
    Quote: Rakovor
    Come on, all this comes from the Union.))

    Soviet joke:
    Son to father colonel
    - pa, I'll be a lieutenant
    Da
    - captain?
    Da
    - major
    Da
    - Colonel?
    - yes son, yes!
    - and a general?
    - no general
    - why is this?
    - generals have their own children
  30. +2
    14 May 2024 09: 47
    The situation with Shoigu's castle surprises me. So he collected billions of bribes, but didn’t pay them to the top? Is that how it works? And the boss didn’t know or see anything?

    Or are their offices located in different countries?
  31. +4
    14 May 2024 10: 40
    The angle of the photo is bad. He probably has the same iconostasis as Ivanovna? Honored efficient galley slave? What happened? How many such slaves are there in other departments? It would be nice to take on migration services. This is where the abyss will open.
  32. +1
    14 May 2024 10: 46
    Based on the latest “rearrangements,” it seems Timur has begun to “speak.” recourse As if the kondrashka would not suffice him in the pre-trial detention center what
  33. +2
    14 May 2024 11: 03
    One more news

    Alexey Kopaygorodsky, who served as mayor of the resort city of Sochi since September 2019, sent a letter of resignation to the city assembly. This was reported by the press service of the Krasnodar Territory administration.


    Alexey Kopaygorodsky is 39 years old, he graduated from the Krasnodar Higher Military School with a degree in “Comprehensive protection of information objects”, until 2013 he served in the armed forces of the Russian Federation, then went to work in the department of internal policy of the administration of the Krasnodar region. From 2017 to 2019, he served as vice-governor of the Krasnodar region for domestic policy.
  34. 0
    14 May 2024 11: 22
    Where did your uncle screw up on an interesting article? He all had access to state secrets.
  35. +3
    14 May 2024 11: 44
    Here we go...Deputy Minister of Defense Tatyana Shevtsova resigned. Rambler reports this. Next: https://news.rambler.ru/army/52751861/?utm_content=news_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink
    1. 0
      14 May 2024 14: 00
      /////////Here we go...Deputy Minister of Defense Tatyana Shevtsova resigned. Rambler reports this.////////


      Well, she definitely won’t disappear, there will be a position. She has been in the Moscow Region since the time of Serdyukov, and has safely survived all the scandals.
  36. +2
    14 May 2024 13: 08
    That’s why the PNDOS don’t care about our red lines and other stages of escalation. They have our generals and other bureaucrats in their pockets. Class (none) sad
  37. +3
    14 May 2024 13: 58
    In Gazmanov’s voice: “Officers, officers, your bribes are at gunpoint...”
  38. +2
    14 May 2024 14: 49
    After all this personnel nuclear explosion, the beautiful building can only be blown up and the place leveled into a park. For these defendants could well have been recruited and installed technical means for espionage in every office and computer.
  39. 0
    14 May 2024 15: 32
    is this new? Our harant took his hunting partner out of the fire and put him in a warm place. but it was not for nothing that Prigozhin was indignant and his words were confirmed over time, and for this he was removed. that in Moscow and the Ministry of Internal Affairs are the same. There are also tariffs and rates for each position. laughter and sin, they only now learned about these bribes. Slippers wouldn't make people laugh. this has long been common knowledge
  40. 0
    14 May 2024 15: 45
    It wouldn’t hurt to check the financial parts of some units there as well
  41. 0
    14 May 2024 16: 06
    I am sure that the head of the personnel department of the Ministry of Defense has a couple of packages more awards than his deputy colleague. Minister Kozhugetych Ivanov :)
  42. -1
    14 May 2024 17: 56
    Quote: qqqq
    ... To be fair, this has been going on since the early 2000s.

    Oh damn... It was in the early 2000s that we elected our guarantor for the first time, and he still rules.
    And I think this is not only in the Moscow Region. what request
  43. 0
    14 May 2024 20: 46
    Well, dispossess a dozen generals from the Garden Military District and you can arm another army...
  44. 0
    15 May 2024 07: 49
    Russian pediatricians reported the arrest of another pediatrician.
  45. +1
    15 May 2024 09: 20
    During the times of the USSR, personnel officers in uniform who held positions never suffered financial poverty. Just now they always saw the shores, yes. And this comrade... oh, not for the movement of positions, but for something much more serious.
    What makes me very happy is that they clean it. If only the death penalty could be returned for traitors and spies.