British expert: The 47th Mechanized Infantry Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces "Magura" ignored the American demand to withdraw Abrams tanks to the rear

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British expert: The 47th Mechanized Infantry Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces "Magura" ignored the American demand to withdraw Abrams tanks to the rear

American Tanks Abrams are again destroyed by the Russian army in the Avdeevsky direction, although they should have been withdrawn to the rear on the instructions of Washington. As it turned out, the command of the 47th separate mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine “Magura” refused to send military equipment to the rear. This was stated by British expert Alexander Merkouris.

The Ukrainian military ignored the American demand to send Abrams tanks to the rear, since they were unable to resist the Russians. drones. Instead, the tanks again take part in the battles in the Avdeevsky direction and are again destroyed by the Russian weapons. According to the British expert, the decision of the command of the 47th Mechanized Infantry Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was influenced by the fear of suffering even greater losses in personnel without equipment.



(...) the decision was made to withdraw American Abrams tanks from the front line because they were too vulnerable to Russian attacks, which was a disgrace to the United States. The military unit that operates these tanks, the Ukrainian 47th Mechanized Brigade, has apparently publicly opposed this, they refuse

- said Mercouris.

This decision came as a surprise to the Americans, who wanted to hide their tanks somewhere in the rear, but not to the Russians, who had the opportunity to knock out several more foreign tanks.

The first reports of the alleged withdrawal of American tanks to the rear appeared on April 26 in the Western press. At the same time, the 47th Brigade itself stated that it was not going to hide the tanks, since they allegedly performed “very well.”
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  1. +11
    9 May 2024 20: 55
    No one gave the order to withdraw the Abrams to the deep rear - only the fakers journalists in the West, and we are happy to pick up on it. For example, I get a kick out of Bloomberg - fake, on fake and fake drives - especially about our economy, oil and gas.
    1. 0
      9 May 2024 20: 59
      I would say that it’s the fog of war, but it’s more like some kind of dregs!
    2. +2
      9 May 2024 22: 24
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Yes, no one gave the order to take the Abrams to the deep rear - are the fake-throwing journalists in the west, and we are happy to pick up

      Absolutely right! They themselves came up with the idea of ​​“an order to withdraw the tanks to the rear” - and now they themselves are driving with forelocks :))
      Fake news is in its repertoire. Lie syndrome in the style: “The Russians plan to take Kyiv in three days” :))
      1. +4
        9 May 2024 22: 36
        It's all right, it's all right Yes
        Ah, Abrams winked They burn like pies in a frying pan.
        1. +7
          9 May 2024 22: 39
          Quote: Clear
          The Abrams are burning like pies on a frying pan.

          Eh, I’m not an artist... otherwise I would definitely draw a caricature in which Abrams and Leopold are pushing each other, each trying to push the other to the front line laughing
          1. +4
            9 May 2024 22: 43
            Quote: Peter_Koldunov
            Quote: Clear
            The Abrams are burning like pies on a frying pan.

            Eh, I’m not an artist... otherwise I would definitely draw a caricature in which Abrams and Leopold are pushing each other, each trying to push the other to the front line laughing

            Yes, this is not Iraq, Syria... where NATO troops, after carpet bombing, rolled out on tanks to drive and shot shell-shocked and unarmed natives.
            1. +5
              9 May 2024 22: 50
              Yes, the Americans distinguished themselves here with their impudence and arrogance: they didn't even bother to change the livery of their tanks! So they left them in their desert colors - supposedly, our tanks are so deadly and invulnerable that there is no need to camouflage them...
  2. +5
    9 May 2024 20: 58
    The first reports of the alleged withdrawal of American tanks to the rear appeared on April 26 in the Western press. At the same time, the 47th Brigade itself stated that it was not going to hide the tanks, since they allegedly performed “very well.”
    . They showed themselves well... are they burning, or what, did they show themselves well?
    However, if the crew remained intact and were able to escape, that’s good.
    However, an ordinary heavy tank... in some places everything is good in it, in others it’s not so good... it cannot withstand modern threats on the battlefield... however, the majority of similar equipment found themselves in the same situation.
    Means of attack are developing quickly, but means of defense are clearly lagging behind.
    1. 0
      9 May 2024 21: 05
      We do not know all the elements of this war. We see videos and read news about the victories of our weapons and the heroism of our soldiers. We rarely hear that their weapons kill.
      Therefore, the one-sided statement that Abrams burn well is incorrect. I dare to assure you that they also shoot accurately and our soldiers also die from their guns.

      Hat-kicking to no one
      1. +6
        9 May 2024 21: 12
        But I only have victory chants... where?
        When I write about problems for EVERYONE, it’s not just for the enemy...
        EVERYONE has failures, EVERYONE has victories... there is a war going on and it brings troubles to ALL OF US.
        Of course, what is important to me is our victory, it is our losses, but... there is a war going on, there will be a lot of things until it ends.
      2. +1
        9 May 2024 22: 41
        Oh how belay So at first it’s confident
        Quote: Svetlana
        We do not know all the elements of this war.
        then, having changed his shoes, just as confidently
        Quote: Svetlana
        I dare to assure you that they also shoot accurately and our soldiers also die from their guns.
        1. -2
          10 May 2024 07: 43
          Just imagine how quickly I change my shoes. Learn.
      3. -15
        9 May 2024 22: 52
        I'm surprised that there aren't a couple of dozen minuses. After all, the Arams are made of plywood, and now it’s almost a year old, and as many as 5-6 have been damaged. Moreover, they are on LBS.
        And they pulled out a whole one, and that one was in “indecent form”
        P.S.: At the same time, according to Kakashenkov, every day we knock out 2-3 tanks on average.
        Disablement and irretrievable losses.. Our readers don’t care
        1. +4
          9 May 2024 23: 17
          Quote: Aleks88
          Almost a year later, and as many as 5-6 have been shot down. Moreover, they are on LBS.

          and since when have Abrams been installed on foreheads?
        2. +1
          10 May 2024 00: 24
          Quote: Aleks88
          P.S.: At the same time, according to Kakashenkov, every day we knock out 2-3 tanks on average.

          I have a feeling that in Ukraine people watch Skabeeva, Solovyov and Kanashenkova the most. The whole argument comes down solely to their words.
  3. -8
    9 May 2024 21: 01
    The most advanced ones become obsolete. With a broom. Abrashki in the oven. The course of history and science. Soon there will be directed explosions across 100 km of the continent.
    Albon get ready
  4. +4
    9 May 2024 21: 02
    This decision came as a surprise to the Americans, who wanted to hide their tanks somewhere in the rear, but not to the Russians, who had the opportunity to knock out several more foreign tanks.

    For the first time, the Americans encountered Ukrainians who did not listen to them. SHOCK! Wait, they’ll send you to hell. There was no need to let the genie out of the bottle and treat him with cookies. So they fed it on their own!
  5. +1
    9 May 2024 21: 03
    TAKE IT TO THE REAR...The tank itself does not go to the rear, it is carried on a trawl. The trawl broke and the tanks were destroyed!
  6. +4
    9 May 2024 21: 09
    The fastest runner in the Abrams crew is the loader. Pay attention to who is the champion in sprint distances! And next time, maybe the reconnaissance drone can film the crew running closer. There might be a surprise. bully
    1. +2
      9 May 2024 23: 25
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Next time, maybe the reconnaissance drone can film the crew running closer.

      It's better to bury it nearby, but in any case it's good
  7. +1
    9 May 2024 21: 10
    Quote: Svetlana
    I dare to assure you that they also shoot accurately and our soldiers also die from their guns.

    Are you from the General Staff? Well, it’s just information of this level, maybe only from the General Staff, where all the reports come. Although I think not. It is unlikely that a staff officer would write in topvar. And there is no time, and they are under cover. So it’s simple...you have a heel, albeit with an attempt to disguise it. True, if you think about it a little, it is immediately visible. )))
    1. -7
      9 May 2024 21: 45
      and are you broadcasting from the front? I have long noticed that the generals of the couch-farting troops most often here, and on other sites, yap and bleat about how the weapons in the West are crap, and in general the mattresses are morons and idiots, they can’t do anything, they don’t know how to do anything. And what they write on this site from a PC with American processors and with an American OS is tsipso propaganda (by the way, unlike the yap-aloks, I know that Windows is written by Indians, processors are made on Dutch scanners (Japanese ones are also used, but Intel and TSMC work on Dutch equipment from ASML). But perhaps this reminder will remind the yap-aloks that mattresses may not be what they think from Zadornov’s speeches.
      Miles, pardon me if you are one of those who personally was at SVO, but as practice shows, those who were there do not write uryakly comments.
  8. +2
    9 May 2024 21: 14
    Are the Americans upset?
    Strange)
    The Russians are not upset at all)
  9. +7
    9 May 2024 21: 21
    American tanks are at least trying to fight, but the British expert doesn’t want to explain what’s wrong with the Challengers and where they are located? laughing The British won’t even miss a moment to vilify their fellow Amers. What kind of people...
    1. 0
      9 May 2024 21: 41
      So Challenger Zwei launched to save jobs. I could be wrong, but after the centurion with tanks they have negative selection.
    2. 0
      9 May 2024 21: 51
      What about Challengers? Where did the first leopards and AMX-10RC hide? Even if they are used as self-propelled guns, they also fly in from self-propelled guns, even from extremely rare air defense systems, but these ones just evaporated
  10. +3
    9 May 2024 22: 38
    Good trolling on our part after the destruction of Western armored vehicles brings results. But in fact, any equipment is destroyed. It's only in Hollywood movies that Tony Stark/Iron Man is invulnerable. But anti-advertising of Western technology is good. After the SVO, it will be easier for our military-industrial complex to compete.
  11. +1
    10 May 2024 00: 21
    If there was such an order, then it is further proof that the amers don’t need anything other than money.
  12. +1
    10 May 2024 00: 55
    That’s how they fight, there is no single command and goals, some have one war, others have another, and who obeys whom the devil will break his leg.
  13. +1
    10 May 2024 01: 11
    Taking the "best in the world" Abrams tanks to the rear is contrary even to the strategies of the armchair experts from the online game Tank of World. For armchair tankers, this is simply a brain explosion. In the game strategy, Abrams tanks pierce several T-72s with one shot, but in real life, these "best in the world" tanks are taken to the rear. One can safely predict suicidal thoughts among armchair tankers.
  14. 0
    10 May 2024 02: 03
    (...) the decision was made to withdraw American Abrams tanks from the front line because they were too vulnerable to Russian attacks, which was a disgrace to the United States.
    The United States is no stranger to shame. Suffice it to recall the “urgent evacuation” from Afghanistan. By the way, by supplying its M1 Abrams tanks, the United States only bought off the Kyiv regime, no more and no less.
  15. 0
    10 May 2024 02: 41
    They gave us only 31 tanks and they are shaking, misers...
    Although they were given not to fight, but to promote Scholtz to Leopards, since he blurted out that he would give permission only after the Americans. Well, the Americans promised, Scholtz had to give Leopards and permission to other countries to supply them. And the Americans then added: we’ll give it in six months. But, six months passed, it was time for the Americans to give 31 tanks, having taken advantage of all the most valuable and new things.
    Yes, what’s interesting is that Challenger is the most invincible so far, since he is not on the battlefield. Apparently Ze is more afraid of the British ban than the American one. Well, that’s right - his bodyguards are British...
  16. 0
    10 May 2024 03: 22
    The whole world was convinced by PR - there is no better tank than the Abrams, only the Russians didn’t “buy” into this bullshit, they shoot them like “leopards”. It is no longer possible to save the image with fakes.
  17. NSV
    +2
    10 May 2024 03: 32
    How nice it is to hear the smell of roasting bucket-headed pigs on an American grill!!!
  18. 0
    10 May 2024 05: 19
    Quote: rocket757
    They showed themselves well... are they burning, or what, did they show themselves well?

    at least they are not forced to turn around with their backside towards the enemy in order to roll back.
  19. 0
    10 May 2024 15: 00
    Quote: LuckyBlog
    and you are broadcasting from the front line

    Wow, you're so burned. In what place am I, as you put it, urya? Quote, specifically.
    I just asked where the previous commentator got the information: I dare to assure you, they also shoot accurately and our soldiers also die from their guns. (C)
    1. 0
      10 May 2024 15: 22
      Quote: Skobaristan
      I just asked where the previous commentator got the information: I dare to assure you, they also shoot accurately and our soldiers also die from their guns. (C)

      The question is, in return they burn us too. Our equipment, our people. And now I can’t help but count them. Behind every cheerful “let’s burn everything!” there are corpses, cripples, mountains of scorched iron and hell. And someone watches this hell as if it were a show on their phone, and someone participates.

      https://t.me/shouvalov/153
  20. 0
    10 May 2024 15: 25
    Quote: DenVB
    The question is, in return they burn us too.

    Next. You don’t have your own thoughts, since you brought banalities from the cart?
    Let me repeat the question to you. On what basis is this: I dare to assure you, they also shoot accurately and our soldiers also die from their guns. (C)
    What exactly are the Abrams that have shown themselves to be good and they shoot accurately and it’s easy and simple for them to kill our soldiers. Is there any data? Or simply and simply: well, this is an American Abrams.
    1. 0
      10 May 2024 17: 31
      Quote: Skobaristan
      You don’t have your own thoughts, since you brought banalities from the cart?

      Ah, vulgaris shouted.

      Quote: Skobaristan
      Or simply and unpretentiously: well, this is the American Abrams.

      Well, this is an American Abrams, how can it shoot accurately?
  21. 0
    10 May 2024 17: 56
    Quote: DenVB
    Well, this is an American Abrams, how can it shoot accurately?

    Quote: DenVB
    Well, this is an American Abrams, how can it shoot accurately?

    Why are you writing nonsense? Abrams is a fighting machine, but only those who have access to statistics know how it performed in the current conflict. What I said. Assuming that our General Staff has such summary information. I only have this knowledge: they were delivered in tiny quantities, they do not have OFS in the classical sense, there is a video of their destruction. Do you have data that it definitely fires and played a significant role? Or are you going to make things up for me again?
    1. 0
      10 May 2024 18: 01
      Quote: Skobaristan
      Do you have evidence that he shoots accurately and played a significant role?

      Of course not.

      Quote: Skobaristan
      Assuming that our General Staff has such summary information.

      Where are these from?
  22. 0
    10 May 2024 18: 11
    Quote: DenVB
    Where are these from?

    No, not GS? Then tell me which part of the RF Ministry of Defense collects statistics and analyzes them.
  23. 0
    10 May 2024 18: 29
    Quote: Skobaristan
    No, not GS? Then tell me which part of the RF Ministry of Defense collects statistics and analyzes them.

    Look on Google, I'm not a help desk.
  24. 0
    10 May 2024 18: 46
    Quote: DenVB
    Look on Google, I'm not a help desk.

    Yes ? Then why bother getting into the conversation? Tell me about some crazy things? Or is the word Abrams a trigger and you have to work anyway? )
  25. 0
    10 May 2024 19: 11
    Quote: Skobaristan
    Yes ? Then why bother getting into the conversation?

    Sorry for interrupting your rant.
  26. 0
    10 May 2024 21: 05
    Quote: DenVB
    Sorry for interrupting your rant.

    So you don’t have data on the use of Abrams? ) Sorry, sorry.
  27. 0
    10 May 2024 21: 52
    Quote: Skobaristan
    So you don’t have data on the use of Abrams? ) Sorry, sorry.

    If no one in the comments found official data, certified by the signature and seal of the National General Staff, about the losses suffered by the RF Armed Forces from the impact of the Abrams weapons, with full name, passport data, INN, SNILS and compulsory medical insurance policy numbers of the dead and wounded military personnel of the RF Armed Forces, then from This clearly follows that we have no losses from the Abrams.

    A chorus of howls begins:
    - YAY! YAY! YAY!
    - Let's burn Abrashek! YAY!
    - We have no losses! YAY! YAY!
    - We grind the Ukrainian! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAYYYYYY!
    1. 0
      11 May 2024 17: 15
      Again, I'm talking about "hurray"? It's even boring somehow. Or should I ask for a quote again where I have "hurray"? I can see how you're throwing it in circles. I've repeated the same idea to you several times. That there is no data on successful use. There are facts of losses, there is the fact that the shells there are specific. And that the Abrams itself was originally an anti-tank system. And again, there is no confirmation that it has proven itself against armored vehicles in Ukraine. Not the one I answered, who confidently says that it shoots accurately and has had successes. I have to believe and wring my hands with books: how is that possible! Shame on us! The Abrams is digging us up for nothing! For how long!.....
      1. 0
        11 May 2024 17: 25
        Quote: Skobaristan
        I repeated the same idea to you several times. That there is no data on successful use

        And I have already repeated to you several times the same idea, obvious to any idiot: the absence of evidence is reliable evidence of absence. Especially in wartime.
  28. 0
    11 May 2024 17: 47
    Quote: DenVB
    And I have already repeated to you several times the same idea, obvious to any idiot: the absence of evidence is reliable evidence of absence. Especially in wartime.

    Then there is no need to tell that he shoots accurately in Ukraine and causes a lot of problems. Is not it ?
  29. 0
    12 May 2024 00: 30
    Quote: Skobaristan
    Then there is no need to tell that he shoots accurately in Ukraine and causes a lot of problems. Is not it ?

    Next time I will definitely ask your opinion if I want to talk about something. And I will recommend it to others.
  30. 0
    12 May 2024 10: 05
    Quote: DenVB
    Next time I will definitely ask your opinion if I want to talk about something. And I will recommend it to others.

    Dada and tell me more about Urya. Wherever it is possible and where it is not necessary. Russians should know that all their victories are all far-fetched and “everything is not so simple, I am the daughter of an officer.” )