“They tried to hack your personal account”: how scammers extort money from residents of the LPR and DPR and SVO participants

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“They tried to hack your personal account”: how scammers extort money from residents of the LPR and DPR and SVO participants

In the last few months, a form of telephone fraud has become extremely common in the republics of Donbass, and in the Northern Military District zone as a whole, when people receive calls from attackers who pretend to be “bank employees” and, under various pretexts, try to take over other people’s money.

Methods for luring money out can be very different - often attackers call victims, introducing themselves as “bank security officers,” and under various pretexts they try to force them to reinstall the Promsvyazbank mobile application (the only bank officially operating in the LPR and DPR) or download an additional application from PSB logo. After installing the file, the bank client enters the card details there, and the attackers gain access to his account.



There are other ways - applying for loans, surveys on behalf of the bank on social networks, messages about “an attempt to hack into a personal account” with a request to clarify personal data, etc. In the LPR, for example, in April, in just one day, telephone scammers stole from residents republics more than 1 million 200 thousand rubles. So, in Perevalsk, swindlers convinced a woman to take out a loan and transfer them a million rubles to the specified account, and in Lugansk, “representatives of the bank” and “representatives of State Services” stole another 266 thousand rubles from residents.

Calls from unfamiliar numbers to the LPR and DPR have, unfortunately, become commonplace - scammers are sometimes very persistent and call back several times from different numbers.

But what is the reason for this activity, and how can scammers find out citizens’ numbers?

Who leaks citizens' mobile numbers to scammers?


Fraudsters began to show the highest activity in the republics at the end of last year, when calls from unfamiliar numbers from supposedly “bank representatives” became regular. At the same time, cases of theft of money from personal accounts have become so frequent that both PSB and official media regularly began to publish information on how to resist telephone scammers.

Residents of the republics also repeatedly complained on social networks that allegedly “bank employees” called them for various reasons and tried to find out their card details. Moreover, scammers call even on Telegram if they cannot get through via regular communication.


Recently, scammers have found new ways to steal money from citizens of the Russian Federation: under the pretext of supposedly replacing their compulsory medical insurance policy, they began asking people to download a fake application from the Ministry of Health, which in fact is a malicious program that allows them to gain remote access to the device and steal money. In addition, unknown people began to introduce themselves as “representatives of the MKS company” (a mobile communications operator in the LPR) with offers to “extend the contract”, otherwise “the card will be blocked”, and demands to indicate passport data or SNILS...

Judging by the number of calls, a large group of scammers is engaged in extortion and theft of money, who are clearly coordinated by someone and leaking databases of citizens’ phone numbers.

There are actually not so many options for who can do this - either a bank or a mobile operator (in the case of the LPR, this is the ISS). The first option looks somewhat more convincing, since, firstly, not only residents of the republics become victims of scammers, but also members of the SVO in other regions of the Russian Federation, which have different telecom operators, and secondly, sometimes scammers call the last digits of a bank card number.

“We need money for treatment”


Relatives of SVO participants also regularly become victims of scammers who come up with various ways to defraud them of money. In this case, scammers operate according to the following scheme: they announce to relatives of military personnel that their son/husband/brother is wounded and needs money for treatment, or that he is in Ukrainian captivity and money is needed for a “ransom.”

Here, for example, is what Komsomolskaya Pravda wrote about one of the cases of fraud: a resident of Lesosibirsk (located in the Northern Military District) was written on social networks by his old friend, but for some reason from a new page, and not from the old ones, on which he had not been for three months. He wrote that he had allegedly been blown up by a mine, and even sent off a photo of his leg and asked him to put money on his phone.

A resident of Lesosibirsk did not send money to his friend, for which the “friend” immediately blocked him. But there were also those who “wanted what was best” and supported the “fighter.” And the newsletter reached dozens of citizens at once. Moreover, the text of the message varied. From some the swindler asked for “a thousand for painkillers,” from others “for communication.” Subsequently, it turned out that the fighter did not receive any injury and did not need help.

There were also more interesting cases: people received calls allegedly from the “authorities”, demonstrating full knowledge - they gave the name and address of the fighter, his phone number - and asked to transfer money either “for treatment” or for “transporting the body” (sometimes the scammers claim , that the fighter allegedly died). What’s interesting here is this: where do scammers get their information?

Some claim that the calls are made from Ukraine, and the fact that they come from Russian numbers is explained by the fact that temporary virtual numbers can be bought on the Internet, but too much awareness casts serious doubt on whether they are related to Ukraine. With a high probability, information is leaked to scammers by sources in banks, hence the high level of awareness. Journalist Andrei Medvedev shares the same opinion.

“This is becoming a widespread problem. Calling the relatives of our military by scammers... Some ghouls are leaking information to the enemy about the families and relatives of our soldiers and officers. The first thing that comes to mind is banks. Because it’s not at all difficult to compare the amount of monthly charges on the card with who the recipient is. Well, further raise the data on relatives. This is if the one who surrenders our fighters to the enemy does not have access to another base, which is being formed jointly with the Ministry of Defense.”

Such activity of scammers in the Northern Military District zone, and in the Donbass in particular, is not surprising, because scammers are well aware that they can make money here. Here it is worth remembering the illegal migrant taxi drivers from the Rostov region, who profited from the soldiers of the Northern Military District, as well as the ethnic gang of Rasul Magomedov, detained in the Belgorod region, who were engaged in racketeering of taxi drivers and did not allow them to work in the area of ​​​​the military unit of the RF Armed Forces, and were taxiing there themselves, raising the fare to 20 rubles.

What is surprising is that the situation has not yet changed. Considering that this problem has recently become widespread, the relevant authorities should pay attention to it.
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  1. +2
    13 May 2024 05: 00
    The number of auto-dialers from unknown numbers is equal to the number of sales of one database of numbers on the left, and then the new owners use auto-dialer to check the relevance of the purchased database. How many times did I buy a new SIM card, after a week or a month calls began from the wrong numbers and different banks, while I never called using the SIM card and it was in an ancient push-button phone.
  2. +14
    13 May 2024 05: 09
    This problem concerns not only residents of the DPR and LPR, it affects all regions of Russia. And this mockery has been going on for many years. People contacted the police many times and complained, but to no avail. The police have more "important things to do"...
    At first, their impudence and impunity amazes me. then you get used to it. This is the very structure of life in the Russian Federation.
    P/S The only thing that is surprising is the split consciousness of our people. After all, the same author yesterday published an article with a sympathetic description of K. Krylov’s legacy. So he was also a troubadour of the market economy and private property. Why then is the author dissatisfied? Here you have both in their pure form. No other market economy could have been created in the real conditions of Russia. Do you want such a device of life? Welcome to the world of banditry and legalized fraud.
    1. +3
      13 May 2024 05: 33
      Well, for our “rightists” everything is very simple in this regard. There is no king, therefore capitalism is wrong. And as soon as there is a Tsar, there will be no more telephone scammers. And whoever doesn’t understand this is, like, “noviop” laughing In the meantime, capitalism is not entirely correct, which they even admit, but as soon as there is a king, everything will immediately improve. laughing
      1. 0
        13 May 2024 07: 20
        Without a king? And for whom did more than 80 percent vote then? I really don’t know anyone like this, but somewhere they found someone over 80, so his cohort allowed this to happen, they don’t call them, they live in another world
      2. man
        +2
        13 May 2024 08: 35
        In the meantime, capitalism is not entirely correct, which they even admit, but as soon as there is a king, everything will immediately improve.
        I’m already used to this, but the publications about how wonderful the village lived before the abolition of serfdom, how kind the landowners were, just their own fathers, etc., have already begun to seriously frighten me.
        1. +2
          13 May 2024 09: 26
          ... publications have already begun to seriously frighten.... ----man

          That’s when it started! About 15 years ago, I stopped buying books in stores, and started only online. There was an opportunity to view and get acquainted with a large number of books. I was horrified when I saw the mass of children’s books, how good it was in the village under the Tsar! Satiety, prosperity, good looks, everyone in good, neat, durable clothes, they either pray, or work, or go to church... Apparently LN Tolstoy lied when he wrote his HUNGER. Yes, and the 1898 population census also apparently lied when he wrote about the average age of life is 30 years. (sarcasm)
          Although it is also written about life in the city, by class. Workers, townspeople, merchants.... Everyone lived very well, with dignity.... Each class had its own good clothes.... The workers studied and received treatment at the expense of the factory owners..... And it is not clear why they suddenly decided to rebel .?? request sad sarcasm
          1. man
            +1
            13 May 2024 09: 44
            I was horrified when I saw the mass children's books, how good it was in the village under the Tsar!
            We've already reached the children... sad
            1. 0
              13 May 2024 10: 04
              We've already reached the children.... ---man

              Just not “already,” but, in my opinion, in the first place. Sometimes in the garden, sometimes at school, slip books, or recourse They will be beautifully laid out on a stand in the library.
              True, sometimes there were big good beautiful children's ones, for example, HOW DO WORKERS GET FROM THE VYBORG SIDE TO THE PALACE SQUARE? Or HOW THE WORKERS LIVED IN ST. PETERSBURG. I can’t vouch for the accuracy of the name, but I bought a second one. I was already over 30 then. A gorgeous children's room with pictures, but... I didn't feel sorry for 1000 rubles for such beauty, I'm working.... But not all parents will be able to give their children request .... and someone will slip you in to look at the Tsar. Later
              gave to small relatives
          2. man
            +1
            13 May 2024 09: 58
            Quote: Reptiloid
            ... publications have already begun to seriously frighten.... ----man

            That’s when it started! About 15 years ago, I stopped buying books in stores, and started only online. There was an opportunity to view and get acquainted with a large number of books. I was horrified when I saw the mass of children’s books, how good it was in the village under the Tsar! Satiety, prosperity, good looks, everyone in good, neat, durable clothes, they either pray, or work, or go to church... Apparently LN Tolstoy lied when he wrote his HUNGER. Yes, and the 1898 population census also apparently lied when he wrote about the average age of life is 30 years. (sarcasm)
            Although it is also written about life in the city, by class. Workers, townspeople, merchants.... Everyone lived very well, with dignity.... Each class had its own good clothes.... The workers studied and received treatment at the expense of the factory owners..... And it is not clear why they suddenly decided to rebel .?? request sad sarcasm

            Do they really want to drive the country into the Middle Ages?
            It’s not clear, then why did they start the war? request
            1. +1
              13 May 2024 10: 08
              ??

              I think yes. Only clever. Sometimes they become more active, sometimes slowly, sometimes “crawling,” sometimes loudly
              1. man
                0
                13 May 2024 10: 16
                Quote: Reptiloid
                ??

                I think yes. Only clever. Sometimes they become more active, sometimes slowly, sometimes “crawling,” sometimes loudly

                Where will they hire weapons developers? Aren't they complete idiots sitting there? But the Soviet legacy is not endless..
              2. man
                +1
                13 May 2024 10: 30
                Well, it's not scary. Now it’s like joining a party under the USSR, it’s compulsory according to your position smile
                1. +1
                  13 May 2024 10: 37
                  NOT SCARY? In my opinion, there should be criteria for scientific work, and not love of kings, regality, religiosity...
                  Although now there are dual citizenship and all sorts of relatives..... there are.
                  1. man
                    -1
                    13 May 2024 12: 01
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    NOT SCARY? In my opinion, there should be criteria for scientific work, and not love of kings, regality, religiosity...
                    Although now there are dual citizenship and all sorts of relatives..... there are.

                    Even before 2014, I heard that openly atheists were no longer hired as governors; deputies were allowed smile
                    In my opinion, I would also add business and personal qualities, but I suspect that they will not listen to us laughing
          3. 0
            13 May 2024 20: 35
            During the reign of Nicholas II, the population of Russia increased by 20 million, although there was famine in lean years and disease: is this due to oppression?! Re-read "Anna Karenina", it perfectly describes the life of all classes of Russia, and even better, watch Metropolitan Tikhon's film about how they ruined Russia and deceived the People with false revolutionary ideas, fooled them with atheism!!! There are only facts, no embellishment....
      3. -1
        13 May 2024 09: 56
        Yes sir! When the Lord places an Orthodox Russian Tsar on the throne, everything will work out. Our Russia will return to the times of Equal-to-the-Apostles, which means there will be no masters or slaves. The whole world will be surprised, although the Orthodoxy that was there will no longer be... And there will be no scammers, because they will no longer be sent to Siberia. This is what the Orthodox elders said, who are a torch for us Russian Orthodox people. And the ruble will be gold.
    2. +1
      13 May 2024 06: 21
      You noticed correctly. We live in an arrogant, unprincipled world and people need to think with their heads and be more cunning. I trolled one scammer for about ten minutes. And all because the owner of the phone was drunk and was in inappropriate company. They used his phone. But this in particular. In general, this has been going on for several decades now. And it all started with the sale of mobile operator bases.
      1. +2
        13 May 2024 09: 36
        people need to think --- dmi.pris1

        Of course we must hi Dmitry, who's arguing? But we have the Ministry of Digital Development and other organizations.... what do they do? Digitalization. As they often write ---- our country is ahead of the rest! And why? If the globalists need this primarily, then what do we have to do with it? If somewhere we are fighting globalism, but somewhere else we are not listening? How is that? Right now, sanctions and talk about NATO troops (Although what can I say, NATO is already like that) Why not withdraw from various international ones? am(And note, I didn't suggest this)
      2. man
        0
        13 May 2024 10: 09
        people need to think head
        Golden words! good
        Moreover, it is with the head, and not with the heart, stomach and other organs
    3. -1
      13 May 2024 06: 32
      Quote: Belisarius
      People contacted the police many times and complained, but to no avail. The police have more "important things to do"...

      Every fourth crime is committed on the Internet, and police officers “do not know how” to use the Internet. They don't care what's going on on the Internet. And this is essentially the result of the “super effective” work of the Mishustin government, which is in charge of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
      And in wartime, counterintelligence should also deal with crimes for which the Ukrainians’ ears often stick out. But it seems they don’t even care about the outrages.
    4. +2
      13 May 2024 09: 53
      And what does this have to do with, excuse me, private property? Comments in the spirit of “damned capitalism is to blame for everything, we need to return to communism and heaven will come on earth!” This is apparently a sort of fetish for the “leftist” regulars of this forum. Instead of discussing a specific problem, they often prefer to fantasize in the style of “if only mushrooms grew in my mouth.” At the same time, completely ignoring the fact that, firstly, in the times about which many are nostalgic, there was neither the Internet nor mobile phones, and secondly, in those days there were a lot of other problems. Today's China, which some commentators consider communist (although this is not entirely true), is also full of Internet and telephone scammers. As a result, instead of talking about some very specific measures (for example, checking banks, finding who is leaking information, etc.), the real problem fades into the background, and specific things are replaced by wandering from one abstraction to another of the same abstraction.

      As for the troubles of today's Russia, the issue here is not private property. There are plenty of examples of quite successful capitalist states in which there are no problems with migrants, normal wages, etc. - in Europe this is Hungary, for example, in the Middle East, the UAE, etc.
      1. -1
        13 May 2024 10: 32
        I answer according to the first thought and leave, I’m in a hurry. The topic intersects with the topic of bureaucracy, in my opinion... Under socialism there were no computers, the Internet, there were fewer officials (%) in the population. But there was no mess, because of responsibility and education.
        True, it should be added that in WW1 there was order in the sense that, for example, disabled soldiers, while traveling on the train home after being wounded, during this time documents were somehow drawn up and, upon arrival, they immediately received a pension, and We didn’t wait (there was no internet). What there was an article about here a long time ago by a good author, Doctor IN, the name needs to be clarified. And now, with this medical bureaucracy, a lot has already been written.
        1. 0
          13 May 2024 11: 43
          Feudalism was dealt with. Everything is much simpler and more complex, and most importantly, it does not depend on “ism”.
      2. 0
        13 May 2024 11: 40
        Any "ism", as I see it, has an almost religious connotation. Some strike their foreheads in praise of the infallible Marx and his prophet Lenin. Others in the name of the holy market economy. Still others into monarchism
      3. -1
        13 May 2024 12: 31
        Why did you “turn the switch” to other countries? We live in a capitalist Russian Federation under a government, a system, an economy that was imposed by critics of everything Soviet. And who for 32 years have not been able to offer anything useful to Russia and the people.
        1. 0
          13 May 2024 22: 36

          tatra
          -2
          Today, 12: 31
          Why did you “turn the switch” to other countries? We live in a capitalist Russian Federation under a government, a system, an economy that was imposed by critics of everything Soviet. And who for 32 years have not been able to offer anything useful to Russia and the people.

          Out of 32 years, you have already been “sitting” in the State Duma for two terms. So you won’t be able to distance yourself from the mistakes of the government, at least the legislative one. The slippage of law enforcement agencies and the oxymoron highlighted in the article is directly related to your colleagues ignoring the tools of scammers. There is only one law determining the responsible person for receiving a telephone call from an anonymous or fake number. Will force operators to take real action. A legislative ban on banks and other credit institutions offering their services by telephone or through IT technology would not prevent them. It is not uncommon for criminal culture centers to be created on the territory of prisons and correctional colonies! Similarly, artificial intelligence can be banned in advertising through telephony and other gadgets. All this will stupidly exclude the most vulnerable segments of the population from the number of potential victims.
          I’ll say more: didn’t you find “instructions”, “decrees”, “notifications” and other documents with blue stamps in the mailbox? But the banal administrative article “On the prohibition of official names of documents in advertising mailing brochures” marked unscrupulous entrepreneurs with a letter.
          For enlightenment, in a number of countries of the rotten West there is a ban on public offers. Two articles in the Civil Code of the Russian Federation were changed and 50% of fraudulent schemes were eliminated!!!
          And lastly, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation voted “for” when the police were killed. I’ll stop here Irina Batkovna. You personally and all your 449 colleagues are not in authority for me. Therefore, asking me to write to my hangers-on in a personal message with threats and admiration for you is useless to me. I'm old and it doesn't matter to me who sits in the Kremlin, red or white.
          If you want to achieve at least something, then in my post I gave you ideas for several parliamentary initiatives. Go for it.
      4. -2
        13 May 2024 16: 27
        Quote: Viktor Biryukov
        And what does this have to do with, excuse me, private property?

        And despite the fact that just yesterday you sympathetically expressed the views of K. Krylov. The very meaning of these views is that by abandoning the way of life characteristic of Russia/USSR and the type of interethnic relations that have developed in it, we will rebuild our society on the model of the civil society of the West with inclusion in the global market economy. His differences with the Chubais-Putin authorities were of a cosmetic nature; he “sorried the Russians” and argued without evidence that in Russia it was possible to carry out such a restructuring and get a result different from what we received in practice. In reality in specific conditions of Russia we got exactly the result we were supposed to get. And your particular problem is the omnipotence of criminal relations at the bottom of society and the disregard for them by law enforcement agencies is a necessary part of modern life in the Russian Federation.
        Comments in the spirit of “damned capitalism is to blame for everything, we need to return to communism and heaven will come on earth!” This is apparently a sort of fetish for the “leftist” regulars of this forum.

        To put it mildly, you are distorting. I just didn’t say anything about any high-level abstractions, or about any “capitalism” or “communism”. I spoke about our common misfortune - a split consciousness (and then in a postscript), for example, you simultaneously sympathetically present Krylov’s views and criticize those relationships that directly follow from the implementation of his own ideas. You sincerely don’t see the connection and think that “Ivan Nikiforovich’s nose can be put on Ivan Ivanovich’s lips” to make it “like in Hungary.”
        Quote: Viktor Biryukov
        As a result, instead of talking about some very specific measures (for example, checking banks, finding who is leaking information, etc.

        I wrote about specific measures - people contact the police , complain to authorities, deputies of all levels. Result- nobody cares.
        The mechanism of the proposals is clear - toughening criminal liability, blocking the transfer of databases. and finally just attention to this problem.
        What can I tell you about specific measures? Contact law enforcement.
        1. +2
          13 May 2024 18: 50
          This is a problem in Italy too. However, many computer scams originate from overseas. So how can we go after criminals who steal money in Russia and perhaps live comfortably in Malaysia (for example)?? Additionally, many IT scams target large numbers of people with small amounts, causing people to not report them, such as phone bill scams where foreign phone calls are disguised as domestic calls.
    5. man
      -1
      13 May 2024 13: 08
      Welcome to the world of banditry and legalized fraud.
      Is banditry already legalized or is it just expected?
    6. 0
      14 May 2024 10: 18
      This is the very structure of life in the Russian Federation.
      ...............
      No other market economy could have been created in the real conditions of Russia.

      Where is it better? Examples.
  3. +4
    13 May 2024 05: 56
    I did not see anything new in the described telephone fraud schemes. Does anyone still solve financial issues over the phone? It seems like a no brainer that questions about your money should be resolved personally at the bank.
  4. 0
    13 May 2024 06: 18
    Well, it’s a button accordion, so there’s a police plaque hanging on every corner. Sberbank employees called, say hello to them in the style of an hour in the joy of chifir for sweetness and disconnect, the bank doesn’t call about any bullshit, but calls to sell you a loan at 25% plus extras))) so in any case, these are scammers either from the zone or from the bank)) ) these are the realities, the captain from GUSK called me and said this approximately))) I was happy for him and sent him to the farm)) you know, they found a sucker with five years of imprisonment)) I’m not surprised with such an electorate, show some the finger, they laugh, why don’t cut the hair of the goyim)
  5. +2
    13 May 2024 06: 41
    I am especially touched by calls supposedly from Sberbank of Russia. They are calling from unknown numbers. The phrase “the conversation is being recorded” is a catchphrase and seems to make me believe that the call is serious. If I have the mood and time, I can have fun chatting. Otherwise, I just dump it or send it to the forest or to the farm... laughing
    1. man
      0
      13 May 2024 23: 29
      I am especially touched by calls supposedly from Sberbank of Russia. They are calling from unknown numbers. The phrase “the conversation is being recorded” is a catchphrase and seems to make me believe that the call is serious.
      How is this supposed to happen? Why, when after the next call I promised to tear off Gref’s balls, did they immediately stop calling?
  6. +4
    13 May 2024 07: 24
    And everyone is forced to transfer all their data to these moronic pro-government sites, to push all the information about themselves into all sorts of state laws, tax laws, data about their family, car, and so on. And then they have some kind of malfunction, and you receive a bill for housing and communal services as for the entire entrance, not to mention larger leaks. The authorities want to completely control the people, everyone, so that they don’t earn an extra penny, so that the top Lars doesn’t escape unnoticed through some thread, but the fact that all and sundry is stealing all this information is something else.
    1. man
      -1
      13 May 2024 08: 50
      Quote: Vadim S
      And everyone is forced to transfer all their data to these moronic pro-government sites, to push all the information about themselves into all sorts of state laws, tax laws, data about their family, car, and so on. And then they have some kind of malfunction, and you receive a bill for housing and communal services as for the entire entrance, not to mention larger leaks. The authorities want to completely control the people, everyone, so that they don’t earn an extra penny, so that the top Lars doesn’t escape unnoticed through some thread, but the fact that all and sundry is stealing all this information is something else.

      Yeah, it seems that making life more difficult for the population is the main task of the rulers
    2. 0
      13 May 2024 10: 53
      Well, why - fines come quickly, but sometimes it’s funny - I came to the MFC:
      - “Did you bring such and such a document?”
      -"No"
      - "What about this one?"
      - “no, I didn’t know it was needed”
      - “And such a certificate?”
      - “no...could you tell me what other documents are needed, otherwise I’m already confused on the Internet, different sources give different lists..”
      - “no, I don’t know, we don’t give such information, we only accept documents”
      What is this? An attempt to get away from work and to annoy another person, a not very smart employee, an instruction that really creates problems for the population or just “an unpolite message in three letters”?
    3. +1
      13 May 2024 11: 57
      The authorities want to completely control the people
      Everything is like according to George Orwell in the novel 1984. And they said: anti-communist, anti-communist laughing We live in the era of “revolutionary conservatism”. smile
      1. man
        +1
        13 May 2024 12: 51
        Everything is like according to George Orwell in the novel 1984.
        Yes, but it wasn’t the communists who implemented it...
  7. +1
    13 May 2024 08: 30
    I also used to think that only complete idiots would do such things. My mother is not a very stupid person, but she collected loans and transferred several million.
    At first, the manager supposedly wrote to her on WhatsApp that the FSB would contact her... and then it was business as usual.
    Moreover, the banks gave several million to the pensioner without any questions.


    At work, by the way, the company management also communicates through the cart, with about the same thing.
    1. man
      +1
      13 May 2024 08: 57
      I have mom the man is not very stupid, but collected loans and transferred several million.
      Your mother is simply a titan of thought...
  8. +3
    13 May 2024 08: 42
    In this article, no cause-and-effect relationship can be traced... Only the author is surprised
  9. BAI
    +1
    13 May 2024 08: 48
    All banks are leaking information. As soon as you see a phone number somewhere, you immediately get calls.
    I left VTB a long time ago, they still call me.
    Calls from Sberbank are the norm of life
    1. man
      0
      13 May 2024 09: 07
      Quote: BAI
      All banks are leaking information. As soon as you see a phone number somewhere, you immediately get calls.
      I left VTB a long time ago, they still call me.
      Calls from Sberbank are the norm of life

      Yes, but all these are just minor pranks compared to how 10 years ago I some years persistently persuaded to install a hot water meter smile
      The trick is that our house is old, it has no hot water, everyone has speakers laughing
  10. +1
    13 May 2024 09: 36
    My boss’s telegrams are hacked all the time and on his behalf they write me all sorts of nonsense about the FSB and so on. And the funny thing is that he is standing next to me and is freaking out about it. Even if he weren’t around, I wouldn’t believe what he writes, since we use other messengers and the style of communication is completely different, the construction of phrases, etc. There was a case when someone called from the police, and he also boldly sent it. And I use all sorts of blocking programs, which help a lot by the way.
  11. +1
    13 May 2024 11: 10
    I agree with the author that the actions of government agencies should be slightly changed. Firstly, identify and send lectures to the minds that are merging the bases. Moreover, there are not so many drain points. Secondly, identifying local intermediaries who are engaged in cashing or withdrawing money. Well, the call centers themselves are cut down either by a direct hit or by the removal of substations or by the seizure of territory.
    P.S. New methods of fraud are constantly being developed and updated.
    1. 0
      13 May 2024 23: 14
      Alas, there are “call centers” in Russia too. Covered regularly
      1. 0
        14 May 2024 10: 34
        Here we need to figure out whether this is an “amateur activity” or a branch.
        1. +1
          14 May 2024 11: 41
          This is a network structure, similar to a franchise. Someone wants to make money, finds a group on the Darknet, they transfer the technology to him, leak the databases, and in response, they regularly receive money. This network is coordinated and fed by the Ukrainian special services (it is possible that the Westerners are also involved - as you know, the CIA regularly targets various criminal businesses). They can also provide you with the necessary equipment.
          1. 0
            14 May 2024 11: 46
            I think that the forelocks are only intermediaries. Otherwise, without a meadow roof, they would have long been put to use.
            1. +1
              14 May 2024 11: 58
              Among the long-haired people there are also many “fools with initiative.” Who has already bought a cool car and a house in a quiet country?
  12. +1
    13 May 2024 11: 29
    Never called from scammers. Can you guess why?
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      13 May 2024 13: 36
      Quote: Ivan Ivanov_36
      Never called from scammers. Can you guess why?

      No phone?
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        13 May 2024 14: 19
        Of course I have. Like now without a phone.
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          14 May 2024 11: 37
          Yourself?
          (just a placeholder, otherwise the site won't let you through)
  13. -1
    13 May 2024 12: 36
    During the anti-Soviet period, starting with Perestroika, it immediately became clear how many people were susceptible to both propaganda and manipulation by other people.
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      13 May 2024 20: 21
      During the anti-Soviet period, starting with Perestroika, it immediately became clear how many people were susceptible to both propaganda and manipulation by other people.

      Yeah, in the Soviet period there were no hooligans and thieves?
      By the way, out of 12 types of criminals who were involved in theft under the Soviet Union, 7 remain in modern Russia. Plus, IT crime has been added, which is more related to fraud rather than theft. Under tsarism there were about 17 types of “thieves” who were engaged in illegal seizure of property. For example, a separate type of the criminal world was engaged in the theft of galoshes and umbrellas from dressing rooms and front doors!!!
      I remember it took the state three generations to wean people not to hide the key under the rug from the apartment where the money is located!!!
      Now we are fighting with individuals who, in a back alley, in the presence of persons clearly from crime, illuminate their path with the latest model iPhones.
  14. +1
    13 May 2024 13: 51
    To the demands of the “telephone operator” to extend the contract, I answer: What a shame, I myself don’t know anything about the contract, the number is corporate, please contact me in your database with whom you have an agreement with my number. For some reason they don’t want to talk further, why I don’t know. The left are getting at me calls from banks to take out a loan, the mood strikes, and then bam - do you think our pensioners are rich enough to take out a loan?
  15. 0
    13 May 2024 18: 38
    Similar scams exist all over the world. I received a message from my bank saying that someone had hacked my account. As soon as you clicked on the message, an internet page similar to my bank's page opened. Oddly enough, they asked me for all the information to access my account. The account number, password, and phone number associated with the account. An elderly person could have been deceived. When these scammers smell money, they attack like sharks.
  16. +1
    13 May 2024 22: 02
    Nonsense! It is necessary to properly instruct personnel...
    My friend spent a long time explaining to my mother how to talk to telephone scammers. And so, he hears a conversation with the next scammers:
    - Crooks, sobbing into the phone: “Mom, it’s me, your daughter, I had an accident, I need money for an emergency operation!!!!”
    - Mom, with sympathy in her voice: “So you’re not dead?!”
    -At the other end they even dropped the pipe after a couple of minutes... laughing
  17. 0
    13 May 2024 23: 10
    I may offend someone, but apparently life in new regions is getting better, since scammers have started operating there. For Russia this has been nothing new for 10 years.
    And the bases have been merging for a long time. I think by different structures, including the Moscow Region. It cannot be done without the participation of the special services 404. The “work” here is too “well” done.
    Perhaps there is some kind of “integrator” that collects information and updates information from different databases.
    How to deal with this? To combat ringing calls - analyze the voice and cut off the ringing noises. It's time to filter social networks. They will only say thank you to “Big Brother.” There are no other options for fighting.
    Will telecom operators do this? I doubt.
    And people just need to be vigilant. No one has yet canceled the mind.
    And personally, I always make fun of moshes. Now I downloaded the laugh of the kookaburra, now I’m waiting for calls