About the armor of the same M1150 ABV

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About the armor of the same M1150 ABV

During the special military operation in Ukraine, our troops often received very interesting trophies in the form of certain examples of Western armored vehicles used by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. These include various types of armored cars, infantry fighting vehicles, and even French wheeled vehicles."Tanks" However, the past month turned out to be the richest for the harvest in terms of heavy products of the military industry of NATO countries.

So, somewhere in the Berdychi area, a relatively intact Leopard 2A6 was captured, blown up by a mine and abandoned by its crew. There, in the Avdeevsky direction, a similar fate befell the Abrams M1A1SA - however, its condition after the fire leaves much to be desired.



But perhaps the most talked about foreign beast that fell into the hands of the Russian military was the M1150 ABV assault vehicle.

Yes, one of those “cuttlefish” based on the M1A1 Abrams tank, armed with equipment for remote and contact mine clearance, which Ukraine received last fall. True, the increased interest in it was not caused by the equipment with throwable hoses with explosives and mine trawls, but by the armor package of the turret chine, which was successfully exposed as a result of the separation of the side section of the turret.

Tank armor, but what kind?


The only photo at the time of the car’s capture, which showed the armor filler of the M1150 turret, quickly spread literally all over the world and became the reason for numerous discussions. And, presumably, for a reason: after all, this is the first time that American armor, being intact and not destroyed, as was the case in Iraq, was available for viewing by a wide audience. So to speak, in natural form, without any diagrams.


However, it is under no circumstances worth making hasty conclusions that we have come across modern armor for American tanks. And there are at least two reasons for this.

Firstly, despite the information that comes up every now and then that the M1150, due to its relatively small age (in use in the USA since 2009), was equipped with third or second generation uranium armor components NAR-3 or NAR-2, like the Abrams “, we wouldn’t see it on Ukrainian cars anyway - the Americans don’t allow it abroad. So, if there was uranium in the assault vehicle at all, then before shipment the filler for the turret cheekbones would in any case be replaced with some kind of analogues.

And they could replace it with anything at all. Here it is enough to recall the confusion caused by the marking of M1A1SA turrets for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which, in addition to the digital index, contained the abbreviation UKR (Ukraine). But such familiar letter marks as M/U (indicating the presence of uranium in the armor), E (export without uranium) and A (new special armor without uranium) were missing. Based on this, the tank could have been stuffed with both export armor and completely outdated armor like the classic M1A1 - the situation with the M1150 could be similar.

Digital and letter index of the M1A1SA tank transferred to Ukraine
Digital and letter index of the M1A1SA tank transferred to Ukraine

Secondly, there is a possibility that this armor, shown in the photo, has not changed at all and is native to the M1150 from construction. That is, it does not have any uranium and is not XNUMX% similar to the frontal armor of more or less modern Abrams and did not have it initially.

Nevertheless, the lack of data on the belonging of the armor to a particular generation and class does not at all interfere with the assessment of its general structure, because this package of the tower chine, in the opinion of both our experts and Western ones, has already received the status of a prime candidate for copying, due to its supposed transcendental uniqueness.

Base – “reflective” sheets or NERA


Generally speaking, the public appearance of the M1150 turret armor filler revealed some interesting nuances. And first of all, they relate to some similarity in the composition of the armor with that of the sides of the turret of the old M1 Abrams, the diagram of which was published many years ago on the Internet. You can see it in the image attached below.


As can be seen from the picture presented, the tank's armor package consisted of the outer steel sheets of the turret, behind which was an assembly of "reflective" sheets installed at an angle, a support bracket (with holes) and three almost vertically located armor plates mounted on the rear turret steel sheet.

In the case of the M1150, there is something similar, but with some modifications: instead of the bracket and the armor plate that follows it, there is a second row of “reflective” elements, separated from the first by a thin metal partition. Fortunately, more detailed photographs have recently appeared, and you can see the “interior” in detail - who knows, perhaps this is the kit that is equipped on the sides of the turrets of more modern Abrams.


Close-up photo of the M1150 turret armor package

What are these “reflective” sheets?

The answer to this question is known to most readers interested in armored vehicles. Nevertheless, it is still worth stopping at them.

In the West they are called “non-explosive reactive armor” (Non-Explosive Reactive Armor or NERA), but in our country they are often simply “semi-active” armor or “reflective” / “intumescent” sheets. The purpose of these products is mainly anti-cumulative, and the composition is quite simple: two metal sheets with a layer of compressible elastic material such as rubber, polycarbonate, etc., sandwiched between them.

These designs operate on the principle of using the energy of a cumulative jet against itself.

Namely: the jet, penetrating into the first slab, due to the propagating shock wave, creates stresses, leading first to local swelling of its rear surface, and then to destruction. In this case, significant swelling occurs in the energy-intensive elastic gasket made of rubber, polycarbonate (or other materials) and a second steel sheet.

When the cumulative jet pierces the rubber layer and the second steel plate, the latter already begins to move away from the rear surface of the plate. Since there is a certain angle between the direction of movement of the jet and the second steel sheet, at some point in time the sheet begins to run into the jet, cutting it.


Comparison of explosive dynamic protection (explosive reactive armor) and non-explosive dynamic protection of the “steel + plexiglass + steel” type (inert reactive armor)

One pair of “steel + compressible layer + steel” cannot lead to tangible results, since the head of the cumulative jet manages to pass without damage, and when attacked by powerful cumulative missiles and the majority of the projectiles' stream does not receive any "injuries". Therefore, "reflective" sheets are placed in several pieces - thus, the increase in anti-cumulative resistance can reach 40% in comparison with the same mass of ordinary monolithic steel armor.

It is impossible to give any specific estimates on the equivalent of tower protection against cumulative weapons in this situation. However, with a certain degree of probability it can be assumed that the numbers of this indicator, with the interaction of all components of the armored “sandwich”, start from 500-600 millimeters.

It's more difficult with kinetic ammunition.

Considering that all the NERA sheets in the photo of the M1150 turret have a relatively small thickness, they almost do not work against tank sub-caliber armor-piercing shells made of heavy plastic alloys. More precisely, they do not have more or less tolerable spaced armor, like that of the T-72B in the upper frontal part of the hull, which could stop and destroy strikers of this type.

As for the rest of the content, these are roughly two thick armor plates behind the NERA blocks. Conventionally, because they can be either two solid metal sheets or casings for several thinner steel plates or other filler. You can guess for a long time here, but for solid sheets they have rather strange bruises in the lower parts - as if they were sides.

In any case, we are talking about passive elements, whose role is reduced to parrying the residual armor penetration of a cumulative jet that has passed through the blocks of non-explosive dynamic protection. They are not capable of anything more - resisting powerful kinetic ammunition - due to their relatively small thickness, even taking into account the angle of inclination. And even if there is “magic” ceramics there.

Conclusions


At least two conclusions emerge here.

Firstly, if the M1150’s armor did not change in any way before being sent to Ukraine and is standard for this model, then the unpleasant surprise here is more likely for the operators than for the opponents. It is clear that the complete vehicle should be equipped with dynamic protection, but its armor itself, taking into account the approximate thickness of 380–400 millimeters (measured by craftsmen from photos, so the result is not ideal) and filling most of the volume of NERA, is capable of containing only monoblock cumulative warheads of grenade launchers and anti-tank missiles.

It is not able to withstand the impact of modern sub-caliber shells from tank guns. And this is very strange, since the M1150 is positioned as a front-line weapon, intended, among other things, for making passages in minefields under enemy fire.


Chine of the T-72B turret with “reflective” sheets

Secondly, in our case there is nothing to copy there at all.

This NERA is a rather ancient method of protection, used for many decades by almost all leading countries where tank building is developed. We have actively used it since the mid-80s in the turrets of T-72B tanks. The Germans also used it in the construction of their Leopards 2. The Chinese also use it, and for Israeli Merkavas, assemblies of these anti-cumulative sheets generally form the basis of mounted protective modules.

The only exception in the case of M1150 can be those two “plates” behind the blocks of “reflective” sheets, and even then, provided that they contain something more interesting than ordinary steel of medium or high hardness.
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  1. +2
    8 May 2024 05: 13
    I wonder how a filler like expanded clay can be removed between the armored space of a tank turret?
    Drain through a cork or melt with a torch?
    1. +1
      9 May 2024 20: 04
      Wash with water under pressure or blow out with air from a powerful industrial compressor. You will only need a catch filter, otherwise it will be blown over the fence of your neighbors in the industrial zone.
  2. +4
    8 May 2024 05: 21
    We've been scammed... we're leaving (c) lol Maybe no other uranoceramics exist in nature and the king was always naked? recourse
  3. +2
    8 May 2024 07: 12
    After Reagan’s Star Wars program, I treat all American new products with a certain degree of skepticism... No.
  4. 0
    8 May 2024 07: 24
    We still learn quite a few interesting things, and if the armor is some kind of tricky, it’s only in the front, the rest are vulnerable zones.
    1. 0
      15 July 2024 18: 47
      I remembered something I read a long time ago. When, in the first Gulf War, the Iraqis on the T-55/62, Type-69/2, looking like surrender, deployed the turrets and went for a breakthrough, they drilled several abrams into the sides and stern. One point-blank shot with a hundred square meter shot into the cheekbone was also recorded. There seemed to be no penetration. It survived from several meters. And there he was early.
  5. +16
    8 May 2024 08: 32
    Quote: ROSS 42
    After Reagan’s Star Wars program, I treat all American new products with a certain degree of skepticism... No.


    How would you say...
    These “private” Maksars, which conduct photographic reconnaissance in almost real time, are also a legacy of SDI. There are even the same people in the engineering management.
    Those. ideas that were false at that moment matured with technological progress and went into series.

    You should never indulge in self-soothing “we couldn’t, ha-ha, here are the woodpeckers,” because this is not a guarantee that an idea, having been left on the shelf and “given juice,” will not be easily implemented at a new stage of technological development.
    1. -1
      10 May 2024 00: 44
      Well...
      I'll add my 5 cents.
      SDI and Star Wars are just cartoons.
      What are X-ray lasers pumped from a nuclear reactor worth!!!
      SDI required critical thinking
      But those sums that were poured into SDI, they just didn’t all go to waste, some technologies were born with this money
  6. +7
    8 May 2024 09: 24
    Conclusions
    ...
    It is not able to withstand the impact of modern sub-caliber shells from tank guns. And this is very strange, since the M1150 is positioned as a front-line weapon, intended, among other things, for making passages in minefields under enemy fire.

    The author made incorrect conclusions.
    The effectiveness of NERA armor against kinetic munitions is not in "deterrence" but in destruction. The most recent tests of such armor were conducted by the German-French Research Institute for Defense Research in Saint-Louis.
    The purpose of the NERA armor is not to contain the penetrator, but to initiate destructive cracks in it through asymmetric contact with the deformation plates.
    At first glance, the penetrator penetrates the NERA armor without any problems, practically without losing speed.
    (Fig. 1). But this is only at first glance. The asymmetrical effect of the plate material leads to the formation of cracks in the penetrator (Fig. 2), reducing its strength and, accordingly, armor penetration.
    1. 0
      8 May 2024 17: 54
      The author made incorrect conclusions.
      The effectiveness of NERA armor against kinetic munitions is not in "containment", but in destruction.

      Re-read those two paragraphs - it says that ARMOR will not hold back a projectile, the entire armor of the vehicle, and not individual components. There is no need to draw conclusions for me.

      “It is clear that the complete vehicle must be equipped with dynamic protection, but her armor itself, Considering the approximate thickness of 380–400 millimeters (measured by craftsmen from photos, so the result is not ideal) and filling most of the volume of NERA, it is capable of containing only monoblock cumulative warheads of grenade launchers and anti-tank missiles.

      It is not able to withstand the impact of modern sub-caliber shells from tank guns...”

      What's wrong?

      Any spread causes damage to the striker. So does the NER. This was known long before the studies you cited. Only this damage acquires any significance if the NER is part of the heavy combined armor, which provides the main contribution to resistance to kinetics. For some reason you kept silent about this.

      In the case of Nera M1150, the thickness of the steel sheets in it is not optimal for a strong impact on heavy alloy “scrap”, which is enough to ensure the existing resistance. Especially in such a size and the composition of the entire protection. Nera acts much more effectively on kinetics, as in the T-72b turret with thick sheets.
    2. +2
      8 May 2024 18: 19
      If there was something like the simplest style of an external steel sheet with a thickness or reduction of 200 millimeters, a layer of nerf and behind an insert of steel sheets with an equally thick rear tower sheet, then we can talk about some kind of significant protection from kinetics . But in reality, the overall size is about 440 millimeters, taking into account the angle of the M1150 tower, in which the outer steel sheet is about 30 mm, a thick layer of two blocks of nerf and two sheets with a back plate that are insignificant in thickness. Well, God willing, if it has the same resistance against obs as the NLD M1 Abrams. That is, nothing for the end of the XNUMXs, much less modern times.
    3. 0
      8 May 2024 19: 05
      I corrected the first message.
      1. +3
        8 May 2024 19: 09
        In your article it is written:
        It is not able to withstand the impact of modern sub-caliber shells from tank guns.

        In my comment it is written:
        The purpose of the NERA armor is not to contain the penetrator, but to initiate the formation of destructive cracks in it through asymmetrical contact with the deforming plates.

        Do you disagree with my comment?
        I didn’t write anything about durability at all.
        1. 0
          8 May 2024 19: 13
          In your article it is written:


          In my article it is written that the M1150 armor itself, taking into account the filling of nero, can withstand the blow of monoblock PCBs. It is unable to withstand the blow of tank kinetics.

          For this purpose, I highlighted the words about armor and sent them in the comments.
          1. +3
            8 May 2024 19: 20
            In my article it is written that the M1150 armor itself, taking into account the filling of nero, can withstand the blow of monoblock PCBs. It is unable to withstand the blow of tank kinetics.

            Where did I state otherwise?
            1. 0
              8 May 2024 19: 25
              The author made incorrect conclusions.
              The effectiveness of NERA armor against kinetic munitions is not in "containment", but in destruction. Very recent tests of such armor.

              There is no need to go off topic. You wrote that I drew the wrong conclusions by extracting the phrase from the text:

              It is not able to withstand the impact of modern sub-caliber shells from tank guns

              Where did I write about whether Nera does or does not hold back projectiles?
              1. +3
                8 May 2024 19: 31
                extracting a phrase from the text

                I didn't take the phrase out. I just didn't read the paragraph carefully, which is why I concluded that your conclusion applies only to NERA, and not to protection in general.
  7. 0
    8 May 2024 11: 12
    Why guess? They'll cut out a more intact piece and evaluate it with tungsten scrap.
  8. +1
    8 May 2024 12: 29
    Real samples arrive in Ukraine in pieces, are tested by Western crews and return home. I think you can only get modern Western equipment by accident
  9. +1
    8 May 2024 18: 24
    Is the photo showing the turret side armor package?
    1. +2
      9 May 2024 02: 02
      Is the photo showing the turret side armor package?


      No, cheekbones. In other words, the forehead of the tower. That is, the most powerful armor within the design.
      1. 0
        30 May 2024 00: 14
        In the photo, it’s hard to tell in the jumble of iron whether it’s a chine or a side. The author added a diagram where the side part is shown. And in the photo it looks like the side is just a torn sheet of steel, without this lasagne.
  10. O_A
    +1
    9 May 2024 00: 53
    Actually, back in 2013, a much more detailed “Analysis of the armor of the M1A2 SEP Abrams tank” was published here.
  11. 0
    9 May 2024 11: 15
    Again in the comments there are battles about millimeters, tank battles and bops... But in real life, all these Abrams and others are taken by drone.
  12. 0
    9 May 2024 19: 08
    Well, at least the compositions of the steels are interesting. And in general, the West has over-promoted its wunderwaffles in order to sell them at a higher price, that’s why they howl because, in their opinion, everything is advanced and only they have it, and then chatter about how they’ll steal it, how will we become unadvanced, killing with comfort will become more difficult ah ah ko ko ko .
  13. +1
    13 May 2024 02: 39
    Some kind of simulation was carried out here

    https://youtu.be/oB9T8iairvw
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  15. 0
    2 August 2024 23: 51
    I was more interested in the trawl.
  16. 0
    22 August 2024 20: 28
    It seems to me that if the speed of penetration of the jet is unthinkable, then even multi-layer armor will not have time to react to the jet. Physics. It all depends on the inertia of the jet itself; if the speed of the jet is greater than the reaction of the armor, then the jet will not even feel it. Strengthening the chemical composition of projectiles. We remember that tungsten and other projectiles were invented.