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  1. dmitreach
    dmitreach 14 February 2013 08: 11
    +12
    Regarding the calendar, there was a funny holywar on one resource. The warrior with the AR-15 stirred up water.
    Yes, he bought it himself.
    Yes, posing for a photo shoot is fun.
    No, he doesn’t go on assignments with her.
    Yes, he participates in competitions with sim karamultuk.

    And some of the "Negro" baffled laughing
    cool calendar good
    1. bddrus
      bddrus 14 February 2013 08: 36
      -3
      I honestly also think that this is a redraw of imported frames,
      By the way, is it really possible - "I bought it myself" - we do not seem to have such weapons for sale. Negro is also not with a Kalash
      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
        Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 08: 42
        +3
        In terms of drawing, you can show what Alpha walks in, plus this arch glowed in pictures from one competition.
        1. bddrus
          bddrus 14 February 2013 09: 07
          0
          drawing in the sense that it is not a clean photograph, but a processed one.
          And why ask - show what Alpha walks in
          1. Alexey Prikazchikov
            Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 09: 15
            +3
            See the post below, wait another thread I find. By the way, this is the arch on the calendar.

            1. Alexey Prikazchikov
              Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 09: 22
              +4
              Here are some more pictures














              1. kot11180
                kot11180 14 February 2013 09: 38
                0
                If you do not see the chevron - the US Marine Corps is not very nice to be honest.
                1. leon-iv
                  leon-iv 14 February 2013 09: 40
                  +6
                  If you do not see the chevron - the US Marine Corps is not very nice to be honest.
                  you checkered or go?
                  1. bddrus
                    bddrus 14 February 2013 09: 49
                    +1
                    no, seriously - you can get it wrong and with shouts of NATO is going to jump out of the window
                2. Alexey Prikazchikov
                  Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 09: 46
                  0
                  What did you mean by that?
                  1. leon-iv
                    leon-iv 14 February 2013 09: 49
                    0
                    me or another speaker?
                    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
                      Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 09: 55
                      0
                      Not you. Damn when they’ll bring the dialogue system to mind.
                  2. Samurai
                    Samurai 14 February 2013 11: 10
                    +2
                    You know bddrus is right, there must be at least some distinctive signs. Won Kvachkov, too, by the way said that it is worthless to copy the NATO drawing! There should be a drawing that matches the terrain. Well done in Belarus. The special forces and the army wear the uniform and pattern of domestic production. They have their own research institutes that develop camouflage for a specific area, and do not stupidly copy
                    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
                      Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 11: 32
                      +1
                      Yeah, only the Belarusian form and equipment gamno. And it’s such that in the Russian Federation they make equipment much better than theirs. They army men buy our army uniform for their money and alter. Since their glass is simply unrealistic to wear.
                      1. Samurai
                        Samurai 14 February 2013 11: 38
                        +2
                        In general, I completely agree with you that they still don’t know how to sew uniforms and make equipment at the Western level. On the other hand, I remember there was a discussion about whose equipment was better, so the Urapatriots shouted that there was nothing better than Gorki, and so on. It would be interesting to listen to their opinion.
                      2. Alexey Prikazchikov
                        Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 11: 53
                        -1
                        And they won’t say a damn thing, they have nothing to say. By the way, for comparison, Russia and Belarus, by the way, are completely different levels of quality and production. Our orders are higher.

                        RF




                        Belarus


                      3. KORESH80
                        KORESH80 14 February 2013 14: 33
                        +4

                        Alexey Prikazchikov
                        only Belarus uniform and equipment gamno.

                        I won’t say anything about it, but only the Russian berets somehow somehow lasted 1,5 weeks in difficult conditions. I was in a light shock, shoes from the Republic of Belarus do not upset.
                        The Russian army is already somehow ashamed to have a bad shape, so much money has gone into this business, there are a lot of options - eminent fashion designers are working, and a full copy of NATO (American).
                      4. Alexey Prikazchikov
                        Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 15: 56
                        +1
                        Our shoes have always been shitty. Although one and a half weeks, and you bought something. I know a few normal RFash brands, but there are such shoes that I got 7200 rubles winter boots and 5600 summer ones.
                      5. leon-iv
                        leon-iv 14 February 2013 16: 35
                        0
                        but there are also brands such that winter boots of 7200 rubles came to me, and summer boots of 5600.
                        Faraday?
                        You can change to tracking, for example, red fox
                3. alex_asch
                  alex_asch 30 March 2013 23: 20
                  0
                  all the same pleased with such a high level of equipment of our specialists
              2. bddrus
                bddrus 14 February 2013 09: 51
                0
                pictures from the Caucasus are more interesting, at competitions everything is very "cultural"
        2. dmitreach
          dmitreach 14 February 2013 09: 17
          +1
          Well, even more so. filmed in competitions, then someone dophotoshopil.
          1. bddrus
            bddrus 14 February 2013 09: 46
            +1
            you are not a former military man? often "on" use laughing
            1. dmitreach
              dmitreach 14 February 2013 09: 49
              +2
              laughing typed fast on!
      2. dmitreach
        dmitreach 14 February 2013 08: 58
        +2
        Now it’s not so expensive to hire a photographer and make a calendar. (especially if you chip in and s / n allows) The work is no more difficult than an artist to draw from scratch. (Just a job)
        By photographed, also made a calendar. Why not?
        We have already sold AR 15 in Russia. Not everyone laughing
        Vepr-15 (VPO-140) - self-loading hunting carbine of the VEPR-15 model of .223Rem caliber for .223Rem hunting cartridges (5,56x45) based on the AR-15 rifle, designed for the extraction of wildlife objects related to hunting objects, in areas with temperate and cold climates at ambient temperatures from minus 50 to plus 50 ºС.
        More details: http://molotarms.ru/index.php?p=shop&action=showproduct&id=331&cid=11&pname=kara

        bin-039-vepr-15-039-vpo-140

        I can be mistaken, I forgot, it seems the photo from the site of Denis Mokrushin. In the photo special forces at the competition with a very rare karamultuk ar15 production Zbroyar Ukraine, under the cartridge 458 SOCOM (rare and expensive).
        1. bddrus
          bddrus 14 February 2013 09: 04
          0
          I generally thought that it was some kind of M4 - an assault rifle - they definitely can’t be traded
          1. Alexey Prikazchikov
            Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 09: 16
            +1
            He has a civilian rifle. And not 4 m, but the arch.
            1. bddrus
              bddrus 14 February 2013 09: 48
              0
              they look the same to me. But it looks like it is fighting - why is it "defective" from an assault rifle? Why is it allowed to trade?
              1. dmitreach
                dmitreach 14 February 2013 10: 15
                +1
                no automatic firing mode.
        2. Alexey Prikazchikov
          Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 09: 06
          +2
          By the way, ar 15 is already being produced on the hammer, from scratch, it seems, and not from components like Ukrainians and Czechs. And in the photo a man, by the way, in Russian clothes. Amazingly good quality, I use it myself.


          http://www.gruppa99.com/
          1. dmitreach
            dmitreach 14 February 2013 09: 25
            +1
            on the hammer of the Boar 15.
            By the way, on topwar, the article was
            http://topwar.ru/13286-vstrechayte-rossiyskiy-variant-amerikanskogo-karabina-kol
            t-m4-karabin-dlya-ohoty-vepr-15.html
    2. Rustam
      Rustam 14 February 2013 11: 04
      +5
      black man knocked down a table
      ____________

      1) probably we are talking about the second photo of the person on the left? where did you see a black man? Surpat camouflage people in a green color mask

      2) regarding imported snacks
      the quality of standard ammunition does not suit many - therefore, people buy themselves
      although there are official deliveries example American callimators, surefire lights, MULTICAM lumps
      and whoever knows why, naturally natural camouflage from Chinese fabrics like numbers doesn’t need anyone
      here and the people it also concerns the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and other security officials takes everything himself
      mostly in two places
      1) on a tactical variator
      2) in the Survival Corps, well, you can look at the Alloy mainly gloves mechanics and 5.11 Tactics
      what to do if for example the quality of shoes is much higher than domestic
      An example in due time had to change winter berets (new garsing) to American beleville 880 now for 3 years now they went like new
      3) you can buy such a calendar in Alfa.ru for 500 rubles already hanging on me

      here on the video how they don’t fight there according to some
      good luck to the guys and most importantly return from business trips lossless, because at home you are waiting for relatives and friends
      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
        Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 11: 29
        +1
        Rustam thank you for the video. Interesting kamenty English-language read. Yes, I dropped it on my computer.
      2. bddrus
        bddrus 14 February 2013 11: 40
        0
        people in green mask
        - in what sense in the mask? a real mask or just smeared the face with "black oil"
      3. super-vitek
        super-vitek 15 February 2013 16: 44
        +1
        Thanks to the author for the video! By the way, on the video there are a lot of people in "Gorki", I saw "Twilight" in my video. Personally, I dreamed of buying a "Gorka" barsovskaya, which I did. not military, mostly fishing, hunting, but in places that are difficult to access, you move a lot, in general, with thermal underwear, it's just gut and the price is adequate. And at the expense of shoes I will take imported ones. The leak is not ice.
  2. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 14 February 2013 08: 12
    0
    Cool photos! Or sketches! good
    1. dmitreach
      dmitreach 14 February 2013 08: 17
      0
      Initially, a photo + artist-designer, Photoshop guru (or other editor).
  3. Krsk
    Krsk 14 February 2013 08: 15
    +7
    Glory to you guys, thank you for Beslan ...
    1. lechatormosis
      lechatormosis 14 February 2013 08: 25
      +8
      Yes, 10 Alfovites died in BESLAN. Alas, the force majeure situation did not allow us to quietly destroy the bandits and save the lives of children and our officers.
      1. andrey903
        andrey903 14 February 2013 08: 57
        -21
        In Beslan, 8 fighters of Vympel and 2 gigolos died. All that remains of the alpha is the name, they don’t go on business trips (which everyone envies them for), they mainly perform security functions of the first and not so many people. They are allowed to roof
        1. Alexey Prikazchikov
          Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 09: 29
          +2
          Who told you that they are not fighting? !!!!!!
        2. kot11180
          kot11180 14 February 2013 09: 40
          +3
          Nonsense, I worked with them on business trips, don’t need to say such things without knowing.
          1. Alexey Prikazchikov
            Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 09: 45
            0
            Is that me or that booby?
          2. Cadets
            Cadets 14 February 2013 10: 52
            +1
            I agree, I also crossed paths with "A" on business trips, although they have been arguing about the merits of "A" and "B" for a long time and may not be unreasonable, which does not detract from the heroism and memory of the dead guys. Blessed memory of those who gave their lives for the security of Russia!
        3. leon-iv
          leon-iv 14 February 2013 09: 45
          +3
          you burn the verb A and B constantly hang out in the Caucasus, replacing each other.
          I very rarely put cons but you deserve it.
        4. The shelezyak
          The shelezyak 14 February 2013 10: 42
          +3
          I’ll go and tell my sister’s husband, otherwise he has wrapped 8 business trips in Alpha in recent years and does not know this belay
      2. SSR
        SSR 14 February 2013 09: 31
        +14
        - I said: almost all ten were literally shot when they performed the task of covering children. They did not storm, they literally set up their bodies. It had nothing to do with what they were taught, ”answered the employee, who agreed to talk on a mobile phone.
        You can talk about the assault, which we saw from the picture on television, what and how much. But it must be said that the FSB officers were given the task of covering up the hostages and they completed it, having suffered terrible losses in terms of their professionalism.
        - In the event that Alpha worked only for the assault, the group would have had no losses at all. But a hundred more children would die, ”our interlocutor explained.

        - That is, dozens of children saved at the cost of their lives?

        - Not that it was, but saved. And, I assure you, there is no such order: to perish, but to protect. There is a belief that this is the only way.

        A low bow to all the Fighters that protect us from the degenerates .. and the Bright Memory of the fallen.
  4. Renat
    Renat 14 February 2013 08: 28
    +1
    Honor and respect for the guys. And in the first 2 x drawings, is it really M16?
    1. Samurai
      Samurai 14 February 2013 09: 01
      0
      Aha M-16, it’s kind of used when attacking planes and other objects when precision shots are needed. It’s strange that they don’t use Abakan, it’s also like an exact weapon
    2. dmitreach
      dmitreach 14 February 2013 09: 11
      +1
      as an option.
      http://kolchuga.ru/internet_shop/?SECTION_ID=965&ELEMENT_ID=72552
      H&K MR223 .223
      176 880 rub.
      M16 can not be because it is an army version. (series M) although if only from stocks from the Tie ... laughing But knowledgeable people say that a fighter for personal use acquired some of the many civilian versions. Initially, the system was called AR 15. Eugene Stoner invented. Then he sold the rights to the Colt Firearms Division.
      1. bddrus
        bddrus 14 February 2013 10: 16
        0
        explain why this device is for sale? Vidocque is quite combat and not civilian
        1. dmitreach
          dmitreach 14 February 2013 10: 59
          +1
          and where does the video?
          1. bddrus
            bddrus 14 February 2013 11: 51
            0
            those. you can not say why it is freely sold? (or is it still not for sale?) Kalash are not for sale, why is this thing for sale? Yeah, above found the answer
            1. dmitreach
              dmitreach 14 February 2013 12: 32
              0
              Already answered above. You can also mention the legislative restriction on the use of stores over 10 rounds.

              Saiga and Boar have an ancestor Kalashnikov.
              In the photo, a self-loading rifle hunting Saiga-22 isp.043, many will not distinguish from Kalash.
              1. dmitreach
                dmitreach 14 February 2013 12: 37
                0
                Rifled hunting carbine VEPR-K-VPO-133 caliber 7.62x39 1952-1959 model year with a milled receiver (AK-47)

                The kit comes with a regular store from a Kalashnikov assault rifle (AK-47).

                TECH SPECS
                - caliber: 7.62
                Price per unit (pcs): 24 700 rub
                http://www.grand-oxota.ru/katalog/product-details/5337-vepr-k-vpo-133-7-62x39-19
                52-1959g-v.html
              2. dmitreach
                dmitreach 14 February 2013 12: 39
                0
                Rifled hunting carbine VEPR-K-VPO-133 caliber 7.62x39 1952-1959 model year with a milled receiver (AK-47)
                The kit comes with a regular store from a Kalashnikov assault rifle (AK-47).
                Price per unit (pcs): 24 700 rub
                http://www.grand-oxota.ru/katalog/product-details/5337-vepr-k-vpo-133-7-62x39-19

                52-1959g-v.html
                1. AlNikolaich
                  AlNikolaich 14 February 2013 12: 58
                  0
                  Test !!!, This is the trunk !, not yet massive (default). If the clash was not very used, then the accuracy should be awesome! (If the barrel on the "Hammer" was not replaced).
  5. dominion
    dominion 14 February 2013 08: 31
    0
    Somehow too much like Americans here.
    1. Samurai
      Samurai 14 February 2013 08: 40
      0
      So I think why Alpha is only in imported gear. From domestic only a Kalashnikov assault rifle and even that one is hung with imported devices. By the way, the first picture shows an American-made helmet, Boker combat knives, Glock pistols. And according to Russian news, we are told that the best combat knives are made in Russia. Somehow unpatriotic support NATO manufacturers
    2. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 08: 46
      +3
      Well, for example, a photo from the Caucasus





      They are not masochists to use domestic equipment.
      1. dmitreach
        dmitreach 14 February 2013 09: 02
        +4
        They can buy ammunition from the world's best manufacturers. And there are not many of them. So do the Amer special forces and ours. Vote by wallet. And they have a full moral right to it.
        Although there is a "left-handed" in Russia
        http://k-a-r-d-e-n.livejournal.com/30101.html

        comment by sgt_packy (in LJ Mokrushin, on a calendar topic)
        All the elite units in the world look and use the same thing. Simply the best in the world. These are the sights of EOTech, Aimpoint and Trijicon. These are OpsCore helmets. This is a Blackhawk Cabaret. These are Oakley glasses and Blackhawk gloves. This camouflage cartoons and uniform sets from Cry Precision. These are active headphones and accessories Peltor and Sordin. Etc. And here the alpha looks like the US SEAL, British or Australian SAS, German KSK, Polish Grom or Ukrainian Alpha SBU. All quite look almost one to one. That's why they are the elite.

        And the calendar is not a fail. He made for his own, and his own and so in the know.
        1. Alexey Prikazchikov
          Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 09: 14
          +2
          Cardin himself uses a bunch of Western so do not flatter yourself. By the way, I advise you to read his review of the Tiger SPM. Which local dodgers love so much.
          1. dmitreach
            dmitreach 14 February 2013 09: 22
            +2
            Yes. read. competently writes. in general, he does a useful job. like hardingush. (I'm talking about their LiveJobbies hobby, service - of course.)
            Western uses both Fusion, and 99, and grishka, and he sews it himself, and orders it from others. In our country, quality things have noticeably increased.
          2. Sleptsoff
            Sleptsoff 14 February 2013 11: 35
            +3
            I slipped this article a year ago to them, and they’re all fussing about it: D
      2. leon-iv
        leon-iv 14 February 2013 09: 17
        0
        By the way, when these pictures are taken apart, they find an over dofig of our equipment. from MTR HF Stich ANA, etc.
        1. Alexey Prikazchikov
          Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 09: 30
          0
          Ana just makes a normal outfit, but Stich, what kind of company is this?
          1. leon-iv
            leon-iv 14 February 2013 09: 48
            +2
            http://www.stich.su/
            we ordered ourselves
            http://www.stich.su/shop/detail/36/872/
            and here it is
            http://www.stich.su/shop/detail/68/1000/
            1. Alexey Prikazchikov
              Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 09: 57
              0
              Thanks did not know about this desk.
  6. Samurai
    Samurai 14 February 2013 08: 54
    0
    The fact of the matter is that they are not masochists! Is Russian industry really unable to arrange the production of elementary things for the army, such as tactical overalls, Camelback, and more, and if there is a war with a likely enemy, then how?
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 08: 59
      0
      Well, it turns out and can not and do not want to. Plus add to this a bunch of people with Kalashism of the brain and get an answer. Although we still have several companies making equipment and equipment (quality), but for a country like the Russian Federation it is very small. By the way, in these photos that I provided the equipment all the same RFeshnaya in the multicam.
    2. DERWISH
      DERWISH 14 February 2013 09: 02
      +1
      we will remove from amers and rob their warehouses
  7. DERWISH
    DERWISH 14 February 2013 09: 05
    +1
    after acquaintance, a friend of mine offered me a NATO bronick really beautifully practical, reliable and easy infection
  8. zambo
    zambo 14 February 2013 09: 09
    -1
    The sketches are good, but not Alpha, but the world team ...
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 14 February 2013 09: 18
      0
      lol what? why did you decide that not alpha?
  9. Alikovo
    Alikovo 14 February 2013 10: 24
    0
    in one photograph, the boar-12 seems to be
  10. Samurai
    Samurai 14 February 2013 10: 56
    -1
    All the same, it’s wrong that the fighters are equipped with imported equipment. After all, a superpower. Take for example the German special forces, all the equipment plus German-made weapons, current multitools Laserman staff.
    1. konnd
      konnd 14 February 2013 14: 07
      +1
      They will definitely be equipped with OUR equipment. It is SNARYAGA, and not the shit that massively brings down the Moscow Region, the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and VV. Yes, damn it in relation to our producer, I'm not a patriot. I can say the following to all wiseacres. Take our SVD and not even an army, but a completely civilian hunting Czech Zbroevka. Shoot not even at 600, but at 300 meters. Take uniforms, shoes, ties, optics. Unfortunately, there are areas in which our production behind seems to be FOREVER !!! A sofa patriotic call to be in all of our. Go ...... The tasks are yesterday and now, and not when the industry sees-whether deigns to do normal things. And I don’t want and will not die during the execution of the BZ because of the worthless equipment!
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 14 February 2013 16: 43
        +2
        Well, do not be so categorical.
        This market is in demand; it is slowly filling up.
        Yes, many people sew in China or from foreign fabrics, but 10 years ago this was not there.
        Take the same MTR 10 years ago and now. The difference in assortment. True quality does not always keep up with the need
        but the phrase of the MTR representative
        Are they willing to pay for quality materials? We have nylon 1000D (the so-called "codra") and INVISTA CORDURA 1000D (though in woodland, which somewhat narrows the scope of its application) - from such materials, with "duraflex" fittings, products are 30% more expensive. No matter how much we tried to launch products from such materials, the demand immediately fell sharply. We use nylon only on especially loaded nodes - everything else is made of polyoxford. Therefore, there are "high-quality" beautiful materials in the warehouse - in case someone purposefully orders. So I recall a dialogue from one "historical" series:

        - Do you have black matter?
        - We have everything, but do you have money? : grin:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T7VSxB3Sl8

        And the seams are crooked for a very simple reason - the demand is great, the seamstresses do not keep up, so they sew with "staring eyes": shock: at maximum speed.
    2. leon-iv
      leon-iv 14 February 2013 16: 37
      0
      these are what such super special forces.
      KSK is also plagued from around the world.
    3. patsantre
      patsantre 14 February 2013 22: 18
      -2
      Who is a superpower?
  11. Sleptsoff
    Sleptsoff 14 February 2013 11: 43
    -3
    If we copied the form of a fighter and a drone from amers, then what can we say about equipment.
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 14: 31
      0
      What are you, the guy fell from the moon, what form of fighter. You compare incomparable things.
      1. Sleptsoff
        Sleptsoff 14 February 2013 15: 33
        -1
        This is due to the fact that for some reason we are trying to copy Amerovsky while scolding them strongly. So it is possible to degrade, copy the uniform and equipment in general shame.
        1. Alexey Prikazchikov
          Alexey Prikazchikov 14 February 2013 15: 59
          0
          Actually, this is the normal practice of all countries without exception. About smiles for a long time laughing. F22 and T50 are not even externally similar.
          1. Sleptsoff
            Sleptsoff 14 February 2013 17: 11
            +1
            If they were completely identical, the amers would condemn us. I'm talking about the type of glider, the same thing with a drone. Amer did, we looked and copied like the Chinese.
            1. leon-iv
              leon-iv 14 February 2013 17: 52
              0
              If they were completely identical, the amers would condemn us.
              Lolco T-50 and F-22 are the essence of different platforms. They even have different aerodynamic designs. Like a different application philosophy.

              same thing with a drone
              oh oh
              Tu-123 Hawk looks at you with a misunderstanding.
        2. leon-iv
          leon-iv 14 February 2013 16: 44
          +1
          But what is their physics different?
          Managers agree I have no engineers
  12. Zomanus
    Zomanus 17 February 2013 08: 46
    +1
    The fact that they use imported weapons and ammunition is a shame to our gunsmiths. And really do not care whose production, if it saves life and helps to work. I personally have a phoenix flashlight, a bench knife. Because domestic analogues gamno. You take two copies and the parameters are very different, because the production is sharpened by the quantity and low price.
  13. pidluts
    pidluts 17 February 2013 12: 46
    +1
    )) I'm "of course" sorry but pictures "sex" _))))))))))))) laughing

    cool !!!
  14. smershspy
    smershspy April 26 2013 14: 05
    +3
    Quote: kot11180
    If you do not see the chevron - the US Marine Corps is not very nice to be honest.


    I agree! Everything is clear, but the sediment remained!