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“Meat Wars”: trade nuances or big politics

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Gaining momentum историяdue to the fact that Russia puts a barrier to imports of foreign agricultural products. The first months of 2013 of the year were very loud for a variety of bans and restrictions in terms of import into the territory of the Russian Federation of foreign products of the agricultural sector. Initially, the ban on imports touched chilled meat from the United States, then it spread to turkey, offal, and frozen pork and beef. Ahead - a ban on the import of chicken meat.


In addition to the American products, German meat and dairy products were banned from the Rosselkhoznadzor. In each of the cases mentioned, the Russian side cites the reasons that led to the restriction or a complete ban on the import of agricultural products from the United States and Germany. One of the main reasons for the occurrence of restrictive measures in relation to, for example, American products is the fact that such a food additive as ractopamine is actively used in the USA for growing farm animals. This additive is banned in the EU, and on this basis, Washington supplies to Europe products without ractopamine. Before the imposition of restrictions on the import of meat from the United States, Washington, frankly speaking, paid little attention and saw the Russian market as that segment of the world market, where it was possible, excuse me, to drag out all those products that are prohibited from being shipped to other countries (EU countries , eg).

To deal with the situation related to the ban on the import of meat products from the United States, it is necessary, let's say, to begin to see the root, which according to official ideas in this situation is the very ractopamine. What kind of animal is this, which was ordered the road to Europe, but on the presence of which Rosselkhonadzor looked through his fingers before the beginning of building barriers? Or did not watch?

Ractopamine, as already mentioned, is a special feed additive that is designed to intensify the growth of muscle mass in animals. If we talk about growing pigs, raktopamine in this case is used as a special substance that allows you to "deceive" the life cycles of this animal. The meaning is approximately as follows: as soon as a pig at the genetic level (after reaching a certain age) loses the ability to build muscle, it begins a period of growth of the fat layer. Obviously, the world market lard is not in demand such as pork, because the farmers who are engaged in the industrial breeding of pigs came to the aid of science, which gave rise to ractopamine. In essence, this beta agonist supplement was used to increase protein synthesis in the animal, resulting in savings for its daily nutrition, and at the same time its (animal) muscle mass was growing.

It should be noted that the use of ractopamine is permitted in 27 countries of the world, including North American countries, Brazil, etc. More than 120 countries (Russia with 2011 is among them), the use of ractopamine as an additive in feed for farm animals is under ban. The ban on ractopamine in agriculture is related to the fact that, after a number of studies, the negative effects of eating meat from animals, for which the additive in question was used as a complementary food, were discovered. Studies have shown that ractopamine actively stimulates the so-called beta-receptors in the body, increasing blood pressure and disrupting metabolism. At a certain stage of eating meat with ractopamine, a person begins to feel a surge of energy and vigor, but after a long ingestion of this meat, he (in humans) increases the risk of arrhythmia and even a sudden stop of the heart muscle, stress conditions become more frequent, and sleep disturbances occur.

In this regard, even China, which, as is known, is experiencing quite serious difficulties in saturating the domestic market with agricultural products, decided to abandon the use of ractopamine in agricultural production.

Naturally, those countries that actively use ractopamine for breeding farm animals, while exporting meat themselves, believe that the research results have been sucked from the finger, but no refutation has yet been offered to deny the negative impact of the feed additive. The only thing that appeals to the same Americans who are now losing the Russian market for meat products is the decision of the Food Codex Commission (Codex Alimentarius). This decision concludes that the specialized research groups of the United Nations last summer announced: the use of ractopamine in the production of meat products does not affect human health. It is noteworthy that the absence of negative effects of ractopamine on the human body was ascertained precisely when many large importing countries of foreign meat decided to classify this feed additive as prohibited or simply undesirable.

Honestly, it is difficult to imagine a situation in which the UN would take a different decision on ractopamine, because we will not forget who is the main financial donor of this organization ... With the particular desire of the main financial donor, they may even call sarin or mustard substances that bring exceptional benefiting the human body ...

With ractopamine more or less sorted out. So, immediately after Russia announced the refusal to purchase meat in those countries where this feed additive is used, many foreign countries decided to meet the demands of the Rosselkhoznadzor. For example, Brazil already now declares that it is ready to supply meat products to Russia that are in compliance with our sanitary standards.

Germany, in relation to which certain agricultural products are banned by Russia (not in connection with ractopamine, but in connection with the legal intricacies of the German veterinary control), also announced that it was ready to meet the Russian Federation and consider this type of veterinary (even joint) control that suits Moscow. Simply, both Germans and Brazilians did not want to lose the Russian market, which brings large sums in the budgets of these countries in the form of trading income.
But in this case Washington again decided to go its own way.

Recall that the Rosselkhoznadzor, in the fall of 2011, made a notification to foreign agricultural producers and distributors that Russia does not intend to purchase products with ractopamine in the future. Recall that a few months after that, the UN conducted its research and announced that there was nothing terrible in ractopamine. The chain can be traced: they say, where you will get away from our (North American) meat - both you bought and will buy - even with ractopamine, even with bleach ... Oh, our (UN) researchers understand more of you (Russian) in meat ...

However, Russia did not give in to this apparent pressure and remained unconvinced. And because the step with the ban (which, it is necessary to emphasize once again, has been announced for more than a year), caused a real hysteria overseas Agriculture Minister Tom Vilsack, along with United States Trade Representative Ron Kirk, made a rather dramatic statement addressed to Russia. The statement says that both of these honorable gentlemen are extremely disappointed with Russia's decision to ban the import of meat products from the United States, in fact, quote:

"With its (production) production, the highest international standards were observed."

But the apogee of the document:

“The Russian Federation has not ratified the code and the international (read American, approx. Author) standards approved in it, which raises the question of its (Russia) commitment to fulfill its obligations in the international system of trade agreements.”

The message of pressure on Russia through the WTO is obvious. They say that you are now in the World Trade Organization, which means that you must “hawk” our products without any internal commissions and barriers.

In this regard, the appointment of the WTO, which is not to protect the buyer from low-quality products and support domestic producers in each of the countries, once again manifests itself, but to push the products of "exceptional" states, protecting them from outside competition. If Russia can defend its industrial independence and declare that it (Russia) will play by international rules in the case when these rules do not infringe on domestic interests, then it will only be possible to applaud.

By the way, in the same United States there are reports that Moscow declared a new Cold War to Washington (apparently, a war with frozen meat ...). They say that this is another step directed against attempts to introduce democratic norms in Russia - almost a new response to the “Magnitsky Act”.

Apparently, Washington forgets that he was warned about a possible ban on the import of meat to Russia long before the appearance of the same act. Obviously, this very act is already causing real paranoia among the representatives of the American authorities themselves. Perhaps now even the excitement of the water masses in the Gulf of Mexico will be attributed to the fact that these Russian submarines “muddy the waters”, protesting against the adoption of the Magnitsky list ...

Meanwhile, it should be noted that Russia is far from the only country that imposes restrictions and bans on the import of American agricultural products. For example, since 2003, Japan has not bought beef in the United States after finding cattle encephalopathy in it. But Japan has long been the largest Asian market for American meat products. Nearly 10 for years, Tokyo did not make concessions, although the Americans claimed to the Japanese authorities that spongiform encephalopathy had long been defeated, that meat from the United States complied with all norms ... Only a few days ago, Washington ensured that Japan resumed imports of meat from the States. But if, after the ban from the Russian Federation on the import of American meat, Japan would continue to buy meat from other producers (not from the US), then the losses of the American agricultural industry would simply be huge ...

For your information:

According to the Rosselkhoznadzor for January 2013, more than seven dozen violations of the legislation of the Customs Union were revealed. The violations concerned both non-observance of veterinary norms and legal aspects of trade. Such countries as Australia, Italy, China, USA, Singapore, Finland, Germany, Cuba, Norway, Sweden, Poland, France, the Czech Republic, Ukraine and a number of others are among the violators of the CU legislation. 1537 tons of agricultural products were found to be inappropriate to the CU standards. Many of these countries are trying to eliminate the inconsistency in action. Many, but not the United States ...

Washington is trying to look for any reasons to realize its interests to the detriment of the interests of Russia, even making frozen policies on frozen turkeys.
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  1. Bender
    Bender 13 February 2013 09: 46
    23
    We must eat our meat!
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 13 February 2013 09: 49
      +5
      Let them eat their own chemistry, and we will produce our own healthy products!
      1. 4961
        4961 13 February 2013 10: 02
        15
        I don’t eat and don’t eat meat or sausage in shops. Thank God there is still a village.
        1. Bender
          Bender 13 February 2013 12: 07
          +9
          This is good! But not everyone has the opportunity to live in the village, so you need to establish their own production!
        2. ikrut
          ikrut 13 February 2013 21: 46
          +2
          Quote: 4961
          I don’t eat and don’t eat meat or sausage in shops. Thank God there is still a village.

          And for five years now I haven’t eaten either sausage or meat. And I feel great. What I wish to everyone. :))
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 13 February 2013 21: 57
            +3
            ikrut,
            - even bacon? I do not believe! Even here in Kazakhstan, "the Kazakh boy does not like bacon", but here right in the Nezalezhnaya itself he is not a fan of bacon! "I don't believe" - ​​Stanislavsky
            1. starpom
              starpom 14 February 2013 12: 47
              +4
              Quote: aksakal
              and here right in the most Independent and not a fan of fat

              So where does the fat come from, if all the pork comes from Poland (and besless)
              1. Region65
                Region65 15 February 2013 08: 05
                0
                bezsalny pork from Poland? completely poles overgrown! starved sows! )))))))))))))))
      2. older
        older 13 February 2013 10: 54
        +8
        ShturmKGB
        Let them eat their own chemistry, and we will produce our own healthy products!
        There was, more precisely, we have a huge meat processing plant Bacon and we ate its products with pleasure .. But then we modernized and all the products went to other regions, we don’t need it ... Trash ...
        GOSTs must be made mandatory
        1. w.ebdo.g
          w.ebdo.g 13 February 2013 11: 15
          17
          older, absolutely true.
          GOST is not just invented. it must be performed earlier with the union.
          just try to deviate from GOST - the prison is your home, immediately)))

        2. Romch
          Romch 13 February 2013 14: 02
          +8
          In this regard, Belarusians are great, the Soviet guests have preserved and their products are very tasty, in particular sausages. And the Yankees along the way already ate this ractopomin, judging by their obese nation.
          1. sq
            sq 13 February 2013 22: 25
            +3
            Thank you for your kind words, but this chemistry has been creeping into Belarus too, and for a long time, almost from the mid-90s. There are a lot of additives of all sorts of rubbish in sausages, and even worse in feed for agricultural animals. I say this because I myself worked on a collective farm and drew conclusions for myself. The presence of a large amount of chemistry in meat cannot be interrupted by any flavoring additives. And our people in this regard are quite advanced, there is something to compare with and word of mouth works well. Therefore, that little-edible sausage-like "bliscuchai papiertsy" simply stop buying, and the manufacturer has awesome difficulties with sales. At the same time, no advertising helps, and the controlling authorities have to make a "control shot". True, enterprises do not collapse, someone is punished, management changes, and everything starts on the next turn of the spiral of life.
            Another thing is that without chemistry (premixes, growth stimulants, etc.), it is very difficult to get competitive meat at this stage of livestock development.
            1. knn54
              knn54 14 February 2013 13: 30
              0
              They say you also put tobacco in cigarettes. But seriously, a synthetic product for synthetic creatures. The West wants to make us biorobots.
          2. Region65
            Region65 15 February 2013 08: 06
            0
            I completely agree! Belarusians GOOD FELLOWS! GIVE THE FATHER TO THE PRESIDENTS OF THE CUSTOMS UNION!)))))
      3. Bender
        Bender 13 February 2013 12: 06
        +2
        And about the same thing! Why do we need a third-rate product, don’t understand how it is grown and what feeds! We need to raise our farm!
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 13 February 2013 13: 28
          +9
          Quote: Bender
          It is necessary to raise your economy!

          Right! But until we have established our own, we will buy in Belarus. There, just on the "tourist's breakfast", as on other banks, there is the USSR quality mark.
          They say that long before joining the CU, there was a meeting of Belarusian and Moscow canned meat producers. So "Muscovites" said that they "will go around the world if they put the same amount of meat in canned food and sausages." wink
          1. Bender
            Bender 13 February 2013 13: 45
            +5
            So Belarusians are brothers Slavs. We are one people, you can buy from them!
          2. knn54
            knn54 14 February 2013 18: 01
            0
            In Belarus, almost all collective farms and state farms have been preserved. The history of Russia and the USSR has proved the advantages of such / similar farms over farmers. When you come to a meat processing plant (RB), you see that they brought live cattle to slaughter. And in our country, as deputy Shufrich said, two things cannot be shown to the people — how politics is made and how sausage is made is dangerous to health.
      4. does it
        does it 13 February 2013 16: 25
        +1
        and we will produce our own healthy products!; and everything will depend on the honesty of our agricultural producers.
    2. predator.3
      predator.3 13 February 2013 10: 01
      +2
      Quote: Bender
      We must eat our meat!


      Yes, and our meat leaves much to be desired, especially chicken, what our producers are now selling are no different from "Bush's legs", no taste! compared to the village, the sky and the earth!
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 13 February 2013 10: 53
        +3
        I’m fine. I’ll take the products of a local poultry farm. Chilled chickens.
        pork brought to the market by nine in the morning
      2. Bender
        Bender 13 February 2013 12: 08
        0
        I was lucky, I am exclusively on home-made meat, real! But there are also our producers who are good!
      3. DeerIvanovich
        DeerIvanovich 13 February 2013 14: 58
        +4
        Muscovites - manufacturers do not go towards the consumer. but in the outback, yes, a natural bird, without GMOs and chemistry
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 13 February 2013 10: 05
      16
      As I understand it, our Onishchenko spit out whether Russia joined the WTO or not. He lives his life and his own rules. laughing
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 13 February 2013 10: 16
        34
        "I spit your OBE"
        1. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 13 February 2013 14: 06
          +1
          wrong finger bro ... here digitalus finus must be shown, shameless average ..
          1. vadson
            vadson 13 February 2013 18: 43
            +5
            he shows that finger which amers prostate is massaging am
            1. vadson
              vadson 13 February 2013 19: 48
              +2
              and such a look ... promising a lot of something, in general, he loves the sworn in one word bully
      2. Armata
        Armata 13 February 2013 10: 19
        +8
        Fortunately, my wife is a biologist. So this is what she told about how these supplements work. In order to add a growth gene, it is necessary to break the chain of chromosomes and integrate there. So, by and large, when you eat beef with GMOs, you don’t eat a cow, and there’s no one mutat from the category of artiodactyls who have not yet come up with the name, but it already exists and looks very much like a familiar cow. So think whether Onishchenko is right. Personally, I even take milk only from the local farms around Ekat. I know that their cows grow on vitamins, and not on supplements.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 13 February 2013 10: 23
          0
          So you eat, if possible, St. George pigs (St. Georgievskaya) and milk too (well, when there is an opportunity)
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 13 February 2013 12: 39
          -7
          The hysteria about GMOs was invented by manufacturers in order to further increase the price of agricultural products and pump money from a duped population! Therefore, the level of secondary education is overwhelmed so that all advertising (even the most stupid and distorting facts) believe !!!
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 13 February 2013 14: 58
            +4
            Krasnodar,
            The GMO hysteria was invented by people who don't want to throw off their tail after eating some "new properties" beef or pork. GMOs are a very tricky thing. For the new year, there was a branch about GMOs, we argued about the possibility of embedding various chains into the human genotype. Overall, this is likely. And, as you can imagine, it is very dangerous.
            1. wax
              wax 14 February 2013 01: 04
              +2
              That's right, and the growth of cancer in all organs confirms this. True, the food industry itself also contributes to the rise of oncology (even without GMOs and hormones).
            2. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 14 February 2013 01: 21
              -1
              Dear Botanologist, you, apparently, have seen enough films about Spider-Man? The whole chain? Is it built in? Into the genome? NIGHTMARE!!! Only viruses are capable of this, for your information, which evolved with the host cell for millions of years! And they do not change the host's genome and do not cause "tail growth", but stupidly copy themselves dear ones! In general, any product (except for human meat, of course!) Is an antigen, and is disassembled "brick by brick" in the digestive tract, and then used by the body. Not a single Ukrainian has grunted after consuming lard, and an Arab has not bleated! As they say - "teach materiel"! hi
        3. Botanologist
          Botanologist 13 February 2013 14: 54
          +7
          Mechanic

          Well, about the chain of chromosomes, your spouse has clearly got excited, the chromosome is a huge part of the body’s genetic material package. Genes are embedded in DNA. . The problem is that each such gene does not just affect one process - there are conjugated rivers that have been studied very well. The same gene, which prevents pigs from building fat, can provoke other processes - for example, the accumulation of unsaturated fats or the preservation of lactic acid, or something else. And here the consequences can not be foreseen. Dyspnea may seem like happiness ...
          1. Armata
            Armata 13 February 2013 15: 55
            +4
            Quote: Botanologist
            Well, about the chain of chromosomes, your spouse obviously got excited,
            No, apparently I didn’t understand it correctly
            1. Botanologist
              Botanologist 13 February 2013 19: 27
              +6
              it seems I misunderstood it

              And this is already dangerous. wink An incorrectly understood spouse can be a cause of a violation of the central nervous system. And in severe cases - and peripheral wassat
      3. older
        older 13 February 2013 10: 55
        10
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        As I understand it, our Onishchenko spit out whether Russia joined the WTO or not. He lives his life and his own rules.
        Onishchenko really can spit on everything .. He is a sanitary doctor and is responsible for the health of the nation
        1. Roman Skomorokhov
          Roman Skomorokhov 13 February 2013 15: 37
          +4
          He does not care in the right direction!
      4. wax
        wax 14 February 2013 00: 59
        0
        The WTO does not prohibit the protection of its market from low-quality products. That is why the amers fussed with the UN commission. But we did not agree with this conclusion. And there is our research. If the Yankees rest, the lawsuit will last for many years. Amer is an amer. I recall how, a few years ago, amers closed their market for cheese with holes larger than some size. And then the hormone. Nothing will come of them.
    4. donchepano
      donchepano 13 February 2013 10: 39
      +4
      They (amerikosy) want us to eat their hormone-filled GMO meat with chlorine and other rubbish.
      Well, to hell with them on the collar
      1. riding
        riding 13 February 2013 11: 20
        +6
        Most US residents themselves eat stuffed GMO products, hence their metabolic problems grow. Pure, non-chemical products that many villagers sell here for the rich.
        Interesting things happened in the United States quite recently: small farmers are busted, private farms are banned, even the collection of medicinal plants is prohibited. The average American can’t easily go into the forest, in which they only make scary films about all kinds of monsters.
        1. Roman Skomorokhov
          Roman Skomorokhov 13 February 2013 15: 38
          +3
          Look at the reports from there: a country of stray pigs! The fattest nation!
      2. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac 13 February 2013 17: 38
        +1
        rejoice that not GOMOSetyanu. and Onishchenko respect
      3. Gregazov
        Gregazov 13 February 2013 21: 40
        0
        Rather, Newton's Horseradish
    5. older
      older 13 February 2013 10: 52
      +2
      Quote: Bender
      We must eat our meat!
      It is necessary that our meat was cheaper than ours .. And it would be enough for everyone ... otherwise your own cows are twice as expensive
    6. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 13 February 2013 11: 18
      +2
      I have indigestion from the legs of the bush .... the body, like a thoroughbred dog, is critical of a chemically stuffed product ....
      1. 755962
        755962 13 February 2013 11: 48
        +3
        The meat industry consumes 80% of all antibiotics

        Last year, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration made a number of suggestions designed to wean the meat industry from being overly addicted to antibiotics. Since then, they have been trying to find a way to implement their program, while the meat industry, according to the latest data, continues to sit on antibiotics with pleasure and produce meat with antibiotic-resistant pathogens.

        A study was conducted comparing the figures for antibiotics used on livestock farms and antibiotics used to treat people for illnesses. The result is a graph that we give below (yellow indicates the number of antibiotics that went to livestock, green to human). Note that the level of antibiotic consumption by people is almost unchanged, and livestock farms are growing rapidly. Almost four fifths of all antibiotics consumed are already on the animals, and their appetites continue to grow.

        http://mixednews.ru/archives/31148
        1. PDM80
          PDM80 13 February 2013 12: 57
          +4
          In the USSR there was one sort of sausage, but it was a real sausage made of meat (it’s 80 years old) and not that bright and beautiful G ,,, which appeared in abundance. Gado will return to the satara guests and support their producers
          1. wax
            wax 14 February 2013 01: 15
            +1
            In the USSR there were enough varieties of sausages of very high quality (canteen, doctor's, Odessa, Krakow, cervelat, pork, hard sausages ...). Today there are probably hundreds of varieties, but what kind of varieties are there: a dozen doctoral varieties, but you will not find a real doctoral (according to Gost), the same with others. So all the time I want to buy at least a tooth (remember) Krakow, but ... mate on the site is prohibited.
      2. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 13 February 2013 15: 39
        +3
        I would recommend buying napkins with the American flag ...)))
    7. Tersky
      Tersky 13 February 2013 12: 47
      +6
      Quote: Bender
      We must eat our meat!

      recourse Bender, I generally prefer beef, pork, lamb wink. And you have a direct call for cannibalism laughing laughing laughing
    8. NKVD
      NKVD 13 February 2013 20: 49
      +2
      One gets the impression that our "friends" are working in the long term to poison the population of Russia. Why fight with us when you can poison ...
    9. Lucky
      Lucky 14 February 2013 00: 01
      +1
      We must eat quality meat!
    10. Kommunisten
      Kommunisten 14 February 2013 00: 54
      +1
      Meat is the corpse of a brutally killed animal!
      1. goal
        goal 14 February 2013 01: 42
        +1
        And tomato juice is the blood of the slaughtered tomato. laughing
  2. ShturmKGB
    ShturmKGB 13 February 2013 09: 49
    0
    Let them eat their own chemistry
  3. Apollo
    Apollo 13 February 2013 09: 50
    +7
    Since February 11, Russia imposed temporary restrictions on the import of frozen pork and beef, as well as turkey meat and intestinal raw materials and offal from the United States, the Rosselkhoznadzor said in a statement. Charts illustrating the production and import of beef and pork in the Russian Federation, quotas of countries after Russia joined the WTO, the largest importers of meat from the United States and changes in quotas for the import of beef and pork
    1. 755962
      755962 13 February 2013 11: 51
      +3
      SCHEDULE

      If you collect a large number of animals in one place and constantly feed them with antibiotics, it will not be surprising that the bacteria living on them, in the end, adapt to these antibiotics.

      An organization called the National Antimicrobial Resistance Monitoring System (NARMS) purchases meat products and carefully examines them for pathogens. The results to which she came can be called sobering. Here are a few conclusions:

      Salmonella, found in minced meat from turkey, in 78 percent of cases was resistant to at least one antibiotic. Half of these bacteria were resistant to three or more antibiotics. These numbers are higher than in 2010.
      Nearly three-quarters of Salmonella bacteria found in chicken breasts are resistant to at least one antibiotic. About 12 percent of chicken breast and ground turkey meat are infected with salmonella.
      The bacterium helicobacter pylori, which is most often found in chicken, has an increased resistance to the antibiotic tetracycline. According to the study, about 95 percent of chicken products are infected with this bacterium, and almost half of these bacteria are resistant to tetracycline.
      In the meantime, the meat industry continues to feed antibiotics on animals and birds and to market meat contaminated with bacteria that do not respond to antibiotics.

      http://mixednews.ru/archives/31148
    2. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 13 February 2013 11: 55
      0
      Most likely we agreed with Brazil to buy more meat!
  4. Tersky
    Tersky 13 February 2013 10: 03
    14
    Countries including Australia, Italy, China, USA, Singapore, Finland, Germany, Cuba, Norway, Sweden, Poland, France, Czech Republic, Ukraine, and a number of others were among the violators of the laws of the CU. 1537 tons of agricultural products were found to be inconsistent with TS standards. Many of these countries are trying to eliminate the inconsistency in their actions. Many, but not the USA ... Onishchenko is rampant laughing ! with what is correct and adamant. yes !
    12.02.2013
    MOSCOW - Senior officials from the US administration expressed dissatisfaction with the ban on imports of American meat products imposed by Russia and expressed doubts about Moscow’s commitment to comply with its international trade obligations, according to a joint statement by U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk and United States Department of Agriculture Tom Vilsak.

    “The United States is very disappointed that Russia has taken steps to stop importing American meat, which is produced in accordance with the highest world safety standards,” the heads of US departments say. Russia's reluctance to endorse the standards set by the International Food Codex (Codex Alimentarius) "casts doubt on its commitment to the principles of the global trading system," the document posted on the website of the Office of the US Trade Representative says.
    (read in full-http: //www.golos-ameriki.ru/content/meat/1602001.html) [Well, in the subject; center][/ Center]
  5. BARKAS
    BARKAS 13 February 2013 10: 10
    +5
    In order for our village farm meat to appear in the supermarket, it is necessary to create logistics structures in the regions that will remove resellers from the market and this applies to all agricultural products.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 13 February 2013 10: 31
      +5
      our meat is both in the markets and in stores. but in order to make it larger and at normal prices, to begin with, reduce fuel prices
      1. BARKAS
        BARKAS 13 February 2013 10: 54
        +3
        Lowering prices for fuels and lubricants will not change much, it will only save us from bankruptcy, and then not all peasants simply can’t sell their products to the processor and trading networks without intermediaries who get the lion's share of the price we pay in stores!
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 13 February 2013 10: 59
          +2
          What kind of intermediaries are they talking about? Well, for example, I go to the market or to the store for meat. There it is brought directly from the village. Some people sell it themselves. The meat factory buys directly. What, do I liquidate the meat factory as an intermediary?
          and the village peasant will have cheaper meat and a desire to raise livestock when fodder becomes available. and fodder will become more affordable when fuel and agricultural equipment are available. Here's a start where you might think. although I'm not against control on other issues
          1. BARKAS
            BARKAS 13 February 2013 11: 13
            +5
            Quote: Gleb

            What kind of intermediaries are they talking about? Well, for example, I go to the market or to the store for meat. There it is brought directly from the village. Some people sell it themselves. The meat factory buys directly. What, do I liquidate the meat factory as an intermediary?

            The meat that you see on the market got there in the following way people go to villages and buy livestock from peasants. All this happens in small volumes, then the meat is sold on the market at not quite adequate prices, not expensive and high-quality meat can be bought only if you have your own people in the village .
            1. Hleb
              Hleb 13 February 2013 11: 24
              +2
              dear! I myself was born in the village and the family always kept the household. therefore, of course I can imagine how all this happens. There are buyers too. There are fairs and where they bring their products. Believe the prices are not so different. I can go to the village and buy a pig entirely, in this case it will be cheaper. if they sell in parts in the same village, it’s not so much cheaper. than in the market. at least to go to the village to follow him. this is the normal procedure. either the peasant himself should go and turn in or to sell (and he will sell at the prices of the region again). Either do not bother and make cheaper to buyers.
              Well, for myself, I personally found two points. They sell themselves. They make home-made sausages on order, they bring what people need.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 13 February 2013 12: 47
                +1
                To reduce fuel prices and develop logistics is very healthy for meat producers. However, the biggest obstacle, in my opinion, is the device of monopolistic possessions, as, for example, in our Krasnodar Territory. A huge number of both small and simply huge, profitable pig farms are artificially bankrupted by the governor throughout the region. Now almost all of his farms have access to the market. Guess how prices have fallen? crying
                1. Skavron
                  Skavron 13 February 2013 13: 42
                  +1
                  In Ukraine, logistics centers have been created where the manufacturer can deliver its products bypassing resellers. They are half-empty, and everyone worked the old fashioned way, and they work. Those. raised and are waiting for a reseller to come pick up. Further, the chain may still increase.
                2. Fox
                  Fox 13 February 2013 15: 47
                  +1
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  A huge number of both small and simply huge, profitable pig farms are artificially bankrupted by the governor throughout the region

                  the same thing in the Samara region. A relative of the artyakovs, he tried very hard, destroying livestock in the region. Now for a long time to rake everything to the new governor.
              2. Gregazov
                Gregazov 13 February 2013 21: 49
                +1
                In order that it would be inconsequential in the village to keep all sorts of pigs there is such a good thing - pork plague and other diseases. Previously, the police, and now the police walks in the countryside and robbed the people of the animal. For several years, such a hunt in the Rostov region almost no pigsties, and in private pigs almost none.
  6. Vladimir 70
    Vladimir 70 13 February 2013 10: 31
    11
    It's time for Onishchenko to erect the monument "Defender of the Russian Land!" laughing
  7. anchonsha
    anchonsha 13 February 2013 10: 42
    +3
    It is also bad that in Russia there are no adequate laws against their entrepreneurs who feed people with expired products, acquire obviously unsuitable products for the purpose of making money abroad and bring them into their country. That is why crappy meat from the United States might not come to us.
  8. Denis
    Denis 13 February 2013 11: 01
    +3
    Do they eat it themselves? And it’s like with the legs of a bush, then in the bird themselves white meat, breast, etc., and they sell red chicken legs. It’s also with joy that you don’t throw
  9. fenix57
    fenix57 13 February 2013 11: 04
    18
    All of their arguments stand against one HIS opinion, BRAVO:
  10. Kolyma
    Kolyma 13 February 2013 12: 02
    +3
    They walk in the woods with their rubbish, personally, I have long ago announced a maratorium to support the US producer. And this applies not only to meat products, in stores for a long time enough domestic products, at least basic ones. Of course, there is not everything that some of the products are presented by a number of foreign manufacturers, but products from the USA will always be in last place for me, I can only buy it in case of emergency, I can often get by. and it’s not even a matter of additives, I don’t want to complicate the development of the agricultural and other industries of the criminal state! Article, plus, thanks to the author :)
    1. Marine One
      Marine One 13 February 2013 15: 33
      -4
      Quote: Kolyma
      I don’t want to complicate the development of the agricultural and other industries of the criminal state!

      For the final destruction of the American imperialists, disconnect from the Internet and throw in the trash the system unit with an Intel processor.
      1. Kolyma
        Kolyma 14 February 2013 02: 27
        0
        Yes, it’s complete with you, I’m not at all calling for the destruction of the states, it’s not about that and not about high technology, and not even about the auto industry ... Your remark is certainly true, but this article hardly concerns it.
  11. Ghenxnumx
    Ghenxnumx 13 February 2013 12: 21
    +2
    Article "+" for revealing the true essence of Yusovites - instead of giving up harmful baits, like other countries interested in further cooperation, they are ready to go for any lie to protect their capital and further superprofits
  12. werr17
    werr17 13 February 2013 12: 23
    0
    Just released today. There was a flu. No antibiotics helped. Made a conclusion. Now I will eat only homemade meat, it’s time to tie it with the store meat.
    1. Marine One
      Marine One 13 February 2013 15: 30
      0
      Quote: werr17
      There was a flu. No antibiotics helped

      You virus tried to cure the flu with antibiotics? Oh well. I strongly advise you not to go to this hospital anymore. And with the meat you decide.
  13. Black
    Black 13 February 2013 12: 24
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    As I understand it, our Onishchenko spit out whether Russia joined the WTO or not. He lives his life and his own rules.

    Well done, Mr. Onishchenko. By the way, in the interview to one of the bodies. channels, he said that American producers are not at all opposed to supplying us with meat without "nasty", ie the question is simply politicized.
    Regarding - you have to eat your own meat. Seasonally I live in the village of Volgograd region. People have no jobs, many were engaged in the cultivation of "meat". First, they invented "leukemia" in cattle and knocked it out !!!!! among the people of cows, people kept 3-7 cows, now barely one at a time. They begin to raise pigs - from the finger they "sucked" ASF - destroyed the domestic livestock and ruined their peasants.
    It is impossible to sell meat grown by peasants at a standard price — only dealers — at a ridiculous price — 80-110 rubles per kg. You can’t enter the market.
    T, about. the policy of the authorities is understandable - to kill a small producer (and he also has that PURE meat).
  14. IRBIS
    IRBIS 13 February 2013 12: 32
    +5
    Say what you don't, but Onishchenko, with all his "oddities", is doing his job well. And if “there” they howled, it means he is going in the right direction. Moreover, it has its own, dear. If only this ban lasted three years, at least. Then we could see a real revival of our animal husbandry.
    1. riding
      riding 13 February 2013 14: 00
      0
      But doesn’t it bother that some of his prohibitive initiatives exactly fall on the period of complex dances around certain political realities?
      PS. American and other products do not consume
      1. Marine One
        Marine One 13 February 2013 15: 35
        -1
        Quote: koni
        PS. American and other products do not consume

        Slyly. You consume this very second. smile
      2. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 13 February 2013 15: 43
        +1
        It is embarrassing. But I don’t eat imported either, as I live where everything is enough.
  15. leon-iv
    leon-iv 13 February 2013 13: 05
    0
    By the way about pigs.
    I used to love beef. Now after 7 years of family life with an ear I love pork.
    Threat and the carcass of mine ends, I need to go buy a new one.
  16. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM 13 February 2013 13: 33
    +1
    Let them eat their chicken and cow wassat
  17. sdd23wesdg
    sdd23wesdg 13 February 2013 13: 35
    0
    The base of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of all citizens of the Russian Federation, Ukraine and other CIS countries is on this http://zipurl.me/sng site and the main thing was done as if to search for lost relatives, but here is all the information about each of us: correspondence with friends, addresses, phones, place of work, and the worst thing is even my naked photo (though I don't know from where ...). In general, I was very scared - but there is such a function as "hide data" of course I used it and I advise everyone not to hesitate, you never know
  18. 4fedor1
    4fedor1 13 February 2013 13: 41
    +1
    you have to eat your own! their meat is crushed by our production, for a long time it was necessary to ban or severely limit the cart. and then completely villages without cattle left.
    1. JonnyT
      JonnyT 13 February 2013 14: 06
      0
      Yes, now it’s extremely unprofitable to keep your farm, fuel and lubricants is expensive, then the plague is still some kind of disease .... In supermarkets, meat is much cheaper, and you don’t have to work in the fields to grow, it’s easier to buy ....
  19. Magadan
    Magadan 13 February 2013 13: 56
    +2
    Well done Onishchenko! One of the few officials whom I respect. By the way - not a joke about American meat. When I was in the States, they told me a story of how one familiar girl began to gain sharply abnormal forms, although she didn’t eat so much. Someone guessed in an independent laboratory to test beef. They found some terrible growth hormones. If you look at the Americans, it’s a nightmare - a fat trust on a fat trust and the figures of many men are obviously womanish. And they didn’t say so much. Looks like some organisms do not care for these additives, and some react like this.
  20. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 13 February 2013 14: 08
    0
    Reminds a joke in which a priest says to the chairman of the regional party committee, "Oh, you will give the pioneers to clean up the territory! Then fuck you and not nuns in the bathhouse!"
  21. Tsoi is alive
    Tsoi is alive 13 February 2013 14: 42
    +1
    Studies have shown that ractopamine actively stimulates the so-called beta receptors in the body, increasing blood pressure and disrupting metabolism. At a certain stage of eating meat with ractopamine, a person begins to feel a surge of energy and vitality, but after a long meal of this meat, he (in a person) increases the risk of arrhythmia and even a sudden stop of the heart muscle, stress conditions become more frequent, sleep disturbances occur.


    Excerpt from the instructions for this supplement.

    "... When mixing and handling this product, use protective clothing, impervious gloves and a dust mask. Operators should wash their hands thoroughly with soap and water after handling the material. In case of accidental contact with eyes, rinse immediately with water. If irritation persists, consult a doctor."
  22. MG42
    MG42 13 February 2013 15: 10
    +4
    Onishchenko = hammer >>> clearly defends the interests of Russia, taking care of food security, even Ukraine relatively recently helped to establish the production of domestic cheese, raising its quality, >>> on the shelves of Ukrainian. stores significantly decreased the number of cheese products.
    1. Tsoi is alive
      Tsoi is alive 13 February 2013 16: 30
      +1
      Quote: MG42
      even Ukraine relatively recently helped to establish friendly production of domestic cheese, raising its quality,

      Yes, you fit the monument to him and not only him. wink
      You understand that this is a weapon that Russia uses (at first timidly, and now already loudly).

      Another thing is very interesting, the USA having lost the WTO dispute to Europeans on ractopamine.
      What are they counting on, to prove in court that for Europeans it is dangerous and not for Russia? request
    2. Eugene
      Eugene 13 February 2013 16: 31
      +1
      Cheese product is cool! Especially processed cheese! Window putty (if anyone remembers) in foil. They also charge for this!
      1. Tsoi is alive
        Tsoi is alive 13 February 2013 16: 50
        0
        Quote: eugene
        Window putty (if anyone remembers) in foil. They also take money for this!

        Are you talking about this?



        All processed cheeses have a high content of unnecessary phosphate and chemical additives, as well as a large number of harmful salts.
        1. Eugene
          Eugene 13 February 2013 19: 21
          +1
          No, there is such an ingenious invention as TU. The company decides for itself what and how much to put in the product. What, nafig GOST? Here are our processed cheese curds from some kind of shit! It is written "Druzhba", and small letters are a cheese product ...
        2. Eugene
          Eugene 14 February 2013 09: 36
          0
          Well, yes, here it is, a darling, cheese product. People are buying from hunger. It costs 1,5 hryvnias, normal 6. Feel the difference. And so on. From sausage to condensed milk!
  23. Masterzserg
    Masterzserg 13 February 2013 15: 36
    0
    They refused the chicken, now you will not find it in the afternoon with fire, mainly ours, nafig and meat, you would also have to press South America a little on this issue, and perhaps agriculture has risen a bit.
  24. Eugene
    Eugene 13 February 2013 16: 28
    +2
    Guys, collective farmers have long learned to feed livestock growth stimulants. Maybe some grandmother still has an ecological chicken in the yard, but those who grow poultry for sale have no time to lose ...
  25. Raphael_83
    Raphael_83 13 February 2013 19: 09
    +2
    [quote] The promise of pressure on Russia through the WTO is obvious. Like, you are now in the World Trade Organization, and therefore, you must "haw" our products without any internal commissions and barriers.

    In this regard, the purpose of the WTO once again manifests itself, which is not to protect the buyer from low-quality products and to support domestic producers in each country, but to push the products of "exclusive" states, protecting them from outside competition. [/ quote]


    Exactly. Most normal people did not need to prove that the WTO is just another instrument of pressure on the geopolitical / economic opponents of the "world behind the scenes" and a means of destroying the national wealth of these very opponents. The situation with the national economy in a number of countries once "occupied" by the Soviets (the same Balts) is evidence of this.
  26. e-froloff
    e-froloff 13 February 2013 20: 47
    0
    God bless Russia to become a brand Flint, and not sold for bucks !!!
  27. Alikovo
    Alikovo 13 February 2013 21: 39
    0
    need to grow your own and export
  28. Forest
    Forest 14 February 2013 11: 08
    0
    The food dependence, the most difficult for our country, allows “global political power” to pursue a policy in Russia in its own interests and thwarts attempts to defend our national interests. Recall that revolutions always began with hunger riots — they hid (did not supply) food and immediately dissatisfied with the authorities. In the last year in our region a lot of farms and immediately processing plants for cattle and poultry were built. I hope he is not as it seems and decided to break with the food collar. Maybe with this the revival of Russia will begin.
  29. Kolya
    Kolya 14 February 2013 11: 32
    0
    Russians, take care of your health, do not eat food from the USA. 90% of all American foods are based on carbon derived from corn. (google the book "Omnivores dilemma", read and understand why). Not to mention all the rest of the chemistry. Meat is different from meat. Man consumes food to live, why do you pay for what makes you sick. Buy Russian, preferably from a village garden!

    This resolution is beneficial for the village, as it will stimulate their own agriculture. Pay attention, all these years the village was destroyed at the suggestion of raw material industrialists (oligarchs) in order to "squeeze" from the villages cheap labor for their enterprises. It is the oligarchs who are destroying the Russian village and not some invented "natural" processes!

    This resolution is beneficial for the village, as it will stimulate their own agriculture. Pay attention, all these years the village was destroyed at the suggestion of raw material industrialists (oligarchs) in order to "squeeze" from the villages cheap labor for their enterprises. It is the oligarchs who are destroying the Russian village and not some invented "natural" processes!
  30. kukuruzo
    kukuruzo 14 February 2013 22: 42
    0
    I don’t know about chemistry .. is it or not ... but it’s already good. that there is no one’s product on our market, maybe pig-houses will be restored in the country
  31. Kolya
    Kolya 16 February 2013 09: 41
    0
    This resolution is beneficial for the village, as it will stimulate their own agriculture. Pay attention, all these years the village was destroyed at the suggestion of raw material industrialists (oligarchs) in order to "squeeze" from the villages cheap labor for their enterprises. It is the oligarchs who are destroying the Russian village and not some invented "natural" processes!