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Iran transferred to Russia data from a captured US drone in exchange for information on C-300

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Iran transmitted the decrypted data from the captured American unmanned aerial vehicle to the Russian allies, the WND website claims, citing former Iranian intelligence officer Hamidrez Zakeri.

Iran transferred to Russia data from a captured US drone in exchange for information on C-300


According to Zackery, since 2007, the Russian military has been in Iran, who have settled down at the bases of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps to help military developments, as well as become familiar with American technology.

According to an intelligence officer, it was Russian experts who were able to intercept the management of the American UAV and plant it in Iranian territory. After the data of the UAV were deciphered, the Iranian side transmitted this information to Russia. Moscow, for its part, supplied Tehran with all the data on the C-300 anti-aircraft missile systems, because of the sanctions it was forced to cancel deliveries of the units themselves, writes NEWSru.co.il.

Earlier it was reported that the decrypted information from the American drone RQ-170, known as a stealth monitor, testifies to the operations of the Americans around Iran. This was announced by the commander of the aerospace forces of the IRGC of Iran, Amir-Ali Hajizade. According to him, after the information was decrypted and read from the magnetic disks of the drone, it became clear that he was carrying out a military mission in countries neighboring Iran and controlled mainly the launching of missile and bomb strikes in Pakistan and Afghanistan and military operations on territories of these countries.

Recall that in December 2012, the Iranian authorities stated that they managed to intercept two more American unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), in addition to the ScanEagle-type device, which the Iranian side had previously intercepted. According to the Associated Press, citing the local IRNA agency, according to Commander of the Navy of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Rear Admiral Ali Fadavi, American drones were intercepted even before December 4 of Iran declared the capture of ScanEagle. Fadavi noted that copies of this device are already being used by the Iranian military.
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  1. domokl
    domokl 12 February 2013 07: 08
    +30
    Just in time for the question of new technologies ... One drone handed over as much information as a bunch of scouts did not give ... And our fellows, fussed laughing
    1. stalker
      stalker 12 February 2013 07: 13
      +30
      he didn’t even have to be tortured laughing
      1. older
        older 12 February 2013 07: 17
        +15
        Quote: stalker
        he didn’t even have to be tortured laughing
        There hi-tech torture-type you will not say the battery is removed and you laughing
        1. Vanek
          Vanek 12 February 2013 07: 18
          +7
          Quote: older
          take out the battery


          Stick 220 instead of 380. Well, as an option.
          1. Pit
            Pit 12 February 2013 07: 45
            +6
            Quote: Vanek
            Stick 220 instead of 380. Well, as an option.

            Or shove their tail into the water laughing
            1. vadson
              vadson 12 February 2013 10: 47
              +2
              Well, amersky bird they have a voltage of 110 so that 220 for the eyes :-)
      2. demon ada
        demon ada 12 February 2013 07: 37
        +5
        we are for humanism in intelligence)))))
      3. Corsair
        Corsair 12 February 2013 10: 28
        0
        It is doubtful that in such an advanced UAV magnetic disk drives are used.
        1. ikrut
          ikrut 13 February 2013 03: 18
          +1
          Quote: Corsair
          It is doubtful that in such an advanced UAV magnetic disk drives are used.

          The device is advanced, but it was designed for a long time. They, over there, had Pentium processors on the Raptors. There was a problem that there was nothing to change, because their release was stopped. Apparently, these "birds" are not the latest developments used. And hard drives 4-5 years ago were much larger than flash drives. Now it is closer to parity - only at times. And several. years ago, "hard drives" were just that. This bird collects a lot of information. IMHO.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 February 2013 07: 28
      +10
      Quote: domokl
      One drone passed so much information,

      Not the only one was planted there, so the information leakage by "unmanned traitors" continues. Big hello to the Pentagon wink
      1. predator.3
        predator.3 12 February 2013 11: 41
        +1
        Iran transferred to Russia data from a captured US drone in exchange for information on C-300

        This is called mutually beneficial cooperation! drinks good
    3. kostyan77708
      kostyan77708 12 February 2013 07: 45
      +8
      whoever doubted, it was immediately clear that our hand was put there. Good news +
    4. Professor
      Professor 12 February 2013 08: 46
      -6
      Just in time for the question of new technologies ... One drone handed over as much information as a bunch of scouts did not give ... And our fellows, fussed

      Do you even understand what "technology" is? Having received a sample, you will not receive any technology. Take the iPhone, for example. Disassemble it "to the clue" and try to produce the same. wink This applies to materials and software, and much more. You can sketch only a design and nothing more.
      1. Dinver
        12 February 2013 09: 09
        +29
        Quote: Professor
        Do you even understand what "technology" is? Having received a sample, you will not receive any technology. Take the iPhone, for example. Disassemble it "to the clue" and try to produce the same. This applies to materials and software and much more. You can only sketch the structure and nothing more.

        Go tell the Chinese about the iPhone, they released their original copy of the iPhone 5 two weeks earlier laughing
        1. Funker1981
          Funker1981 12 February 2013 09: 24
          +3
          Quote: Dinver
          Go tell the Chinese about the iPhone, they released their original copy of the iPhone 5 two weeks earlier


          So the Chinese have these technologies, the Americans themselves and the Japanese gave them for free. They just had to sketch the design wink

          But unfortunately, while there is no equipment to reproduce the electronic components of the iPhone in the same process sad Hi, Nano Chubais ...
        2. yanus
          yanus 12 February 2013 10: 15
          +3
          Quote: Dinver
          Go tell the Chinese about the iPhone, they released their copy of iPhone 5 two weeks earlier than the original laughing

          Well, the Chinese are just messing up. Bought from our avadvigateli, copied, and they work for 60 hours and bend. And all because the form is repeated one thing, but the materials are completely different. Technology is not just that, you need to know it.
          1. AlNikolaich
            AlNikolaich 13 February 2013 10: 59
            0
            So the Chinese "iPhone" works as much!
      2. Hammer
        Hammer 12 February 2013 09: 10
        +7
        Quote: Professor
        Do you even understand what "technology" is? Having received a sample, you will not receive any technology. Take the iPhone, for example. Disassemble it "to the clue" and try to produce the same. wink This applies to materials and software and much more. You can only sketch the structure and nothing more.

        I support, for example, you can look at the 5th generation Iranian cabe plane. Laughing from the heart ... laughing
        The same applies to the phrase from the article:
        Moscow, for its part, supplied Tehran with all the data on the S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems, since due to sanctions it was forced to cancel deliveries of the installations themselves,

        The transmission of "data on the S-300" is finally a gem! Hold me seven. laughing
        Why the hell, one wonders, is Tehran "data on the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system"? And what does that even mean? !! fool That they were presented with several littered advertising booklets from past arms exhibitions signed by Medvedev ?! laughing
        If Russian specialists participated in the UAV fishing, then they participated in the evisceration of these devices for any reason. And in any case, they got everything they wanted. The Iranians would give this to us without any data about the air defense systems (free of charge, i.e. for nothing), they also said thanks. The thing is that no matter how Tehran puffs out its cheeks for greater importance, and in an effort to intimidate all enemies, only Russia can really help Iran in protecting itself from aggression.
      3. neri73-r
        neri73-r 12 February 2013 09: 11
        +9
        Your words are true if they will be disassembled .............., for example, Berbers! If ours were dismantled, then they will be sure that everything that is needed will be received, at least that was the case under the USSR! In the early 1990s, I had the opportunity to see two women, laboratory assistants (those who are not of a scientific degree) in one Ural research institute of defense significance, so that they could receive a sample of the material to do a full chemical and other analyzes and put the whole picture about this material. A full copy is not necessary, you need to take a rational kernel and do better!
        1. mamba
          mamba 12 February 2013 10: 11
          +10
          Quote: neri73-r
          A full copy is not necessary, you need to take a rational kernel and do better!

          I agree completely. At my previous work, I had the opportunity to analyze foreign quantum electronics devices that entered the USSR through special channels. Everything was investigated: parameters, reliability, design, technology. The results were not in favor of the instruments of well-known companies, and their parameters and reliability did not correspond to the declared ones. This greatly facilitated further communication with the PP, which required the development of devices with operating parameters, no worse than that of foreign firms. And for their devices, these parameters were extremely acceptable.
          I also had the opportunity to engage in industrial espionage within the framework of the native Ministry of Electronic Industry. According to one of the developments, I had to visit a competing enterprise that specialized in the production of devices of this type. For those half an hour while I was waiting for a reception from their superiors, I was able to identify and remember the entire technological chain and design features of a competing device. When their superiors found out who I was and where I was from, my pass was immediately closed and they asked me out. But it was too late. Then I did everything in my own way and my device surpassed the competitor by several times in parameters, and was structurally, technologically, and schematically different from it dramatically.
      4. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 12 February 2013 09: 19
        +3
        I disagree. Your statement is for hammer-chisel-pliers specialists only. At one time, in the USSR, they received only an obscure snapshot of an American microcircuit, and the specialists tried to cook up their own. In this case, the parameters of the "prisoner's" equipment, the layout of systems, etc. are important. And our specialists, at least, will install their software on such a gadget as well. good
        1. mamba
          mamba 12 February 2013 10: 21
          +6
          Quote: Black Colonel
          At one time in the USSR they received only an obscure snapshot of the American microcircuit, and the specialists tried to cook up their own.

          I'm afraid you are wrong. One obscure snapshot of the chip topology makes it impossible to create a copy. We need a sample of a suitable microcircuit, which is subjected to layer-by-layer etching with the identification of the geometry of all the layers that make up the elements of the microcircuit. Along the way, the materials making up these layers are also being investigated. Only after this can we proceed to identify the parameters and operating modes of the investigated microcircuit, determine its functionality and software.
        2. PiP
          PiP 12 February 2013 12: 29
          +2
          Quote: Black Colonel
          obscure snapshot of an american chip

          The MS snapshot never helped anyone in developing their MS / ICs. In order to create an MS it is not enough to take a snapshot of a hull or one "floor", knowledgeable people will understand. The production of ICs is a substrate, photolithography, diffusion, sputtering and much more, so you can't do anything from one photograph, alas.
        3. to water
          to water 12 February 2013 17: 11
          0
          As for technology, for some reason no one is discussing the creation and manufacture of modern materials. To create a modern model of weapons, it is necessary to have your own modern materials in your own production. For example, where I work, for the creation of special civilian products working in extreme environments, pressures and temperatures, bourgeois materials are used at 50%, because there are simply no domestic ones, and if there are, they are not technologically advanced during processing (they give a large percentage of defective products) because manufacturing technologies are, at best, 30 years old. But there is nothing new. Yes, take any electric motor of our production. An enamel wire made exclusively with imported varnishes is used there. In our country, varnishes are not produced. Prosrali technology in the mid 80-ies. REFUT if you can.
          1. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 12 February 2013 21: 00
            0
            Quote: regar
            Prosrali technology in the mid 80-ies.

            No one in the mid-80s wasted technology, you were mistaken for a decade.
            1985 is the heyday of Soviet science.
            1. to water
              to water 13 February 2013 00: 15
              0
              I’m not mistaken, even then the officials decided that it would be inappropriate to further develop varnish brands, and replace them with imported ones. it was more convenient for them, more reasons to once again go to Italy as well.
        4. AlNikolaich
          AlNikolaich 13 February 2013 11: 06
          0
          I agree, the software can be written, but here's a picture to make a chip!
          Reminds of the Soviet film Old Man Hottabych, where he "conjured" a pay phone "from pure marble and gold."
      5. leon-iv
        leon-iv 12 February 2013 09: 58
        +4
        Disassemble it "to the clue" and try to produce the same. This applies to materials and software and much more. You can only sketch the structure and nothing more.
        It depends on what level the specialist understands.
        At the same phonograph, the main feature is software
        and circuitry is not that complicated.
      6. aksakal
        aksakal 12 February 2013 11: 02
        +7
        Professor, I dare to remind you that the losses of aircraft of the Soviet troops in Afghanistan fell sharply after the capture of "live" Stinger missiles. That is, the data of interest by the Russian specialists are still removed. In this UAV, it is unlikely that ours were interested in the glider and dvigun - no need to flatter ourselves, in this Russia will give odds to almost everyone in this world. But radio, electronic content and software are interesting things, and Russian specialists will definitely have enough to figure out their skills.
      7. Mcsim
        Mcsim 12 February 2013 11: 30
        +1
        Do you suppose that in Russia we have a task to do the same? Combat codes "friend or foe" and the like, I think this is of greater interest
      8. slvevg
        slvevg 12 February 2013 13: 04
        0
        I have no respect for many of your compatriots on a national basis, but in this case you are right in many ways, and acne as a technological product is needed only for pimpled teenagers, fundamental science needs to be promoted so that only then can you rip off money for products generated by this science.
      9. Che
        Che 12 February 2013 13: 35
        +1
        Professor,
        Well, let's say technology and its own is enough to create a drone, and information is never superfluous. Iran respect and respect. Keep it up.
      10. ikrut
        ikrut 13 February 2013 03: 26
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        Take the iPhone, for example. Disassemble it "to vignette" and try to produce the same

        All the "strength and power" of the iPhone in Apple's SOFTWARE. BUT ONLY! And similar "iron" is riveted into the lung. The parameters are removed from the element base, analogs are selected, the diagrams are read. Now the Chinese are doing it en masse. Fortunately, they now also have American technologies. But to do SOFT is more serious. But even here the possibilities exist. Even understanding what, how, why and why in this UAV is already a good thing. Find out the level of the element base, the field for materials science is huge. So, it's not all bad. There is an apparatus - many secrets are revealed. Otherwise, why would the Americans keep their UAVs and A-22 secret if there is nothing to take from them? :))) And the software will be written by the craftsmen. The same as they write to the Americans. They work for the money - not for ideas.
    5. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 12 February 2013 09: 13
      +1
      ... in the credits the comment "During the landing, not a single drone was injured." The curtain. Spectators at the Pentagon are wiping away their tears with trembling hands. belay belay belay
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 12 February 2013 14: 20
        +1
        And Clinton held out her: - Wow!
        And immediately she received a slap from her husband: - What are you talking about? not the case to wow ...
    6. 11 black
      11 black 12 February 2013 14: 59
      0
      Quote: domokl
      Just in time for the question of new technologies ... One drone handed over as much information as a bunch of scouts did not give ... And our fellows, took a laugh

      I completely agree, but the fact that it was ours that "caught" this bird was clear a long time ago, because Iran has nothing of the kind in terms of technology (or was not), I am certainly not an expert, but I think the 1l222 "carpool" worked there, or something more secret ... by the way, here she is beautiful laughing
      PS and our fellows, they helped Iran, and got the technology ... it means all the same, as the amers did not try to destroy our intelligence "The Cheka does not sleep, the Cheka is working." wink and it pleases...
      1. Zubr
        Zubr 13 February 2013 00: 17
        +1
        Indeed, the Cheka is chewing, and the Central Committee is buzzing .... laughing
  2. Vanek
    Vanek 12 February 2013 07: 14
    +5
    This is called mutually beneficial cooperation.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 February 2013 07: 44
      +6
      Quote: Vanek

      This is called mutually beneficial cooperation.

      With the pentagon wassat
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 12 February 2013 07: 45
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        With the pentagon


        laughing and with him too laughing
  3. ruton
    ruton 12 February 2013 07: 14
    +4
    Oh, how probably the ordinary Americans good
    1. older
      older 12 February 2013 07: 18
      +4
      Quote: ruton
      Oh how probably ordinary Americans good
      Duc ... It turned out that in a computer game they also beat at a time laughing
  4. alkach555
    alkach555 12 February 2013 07: 15
    +5
    The source of information is somehow dubious.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 February 2013 07: 40
      +3
      Quote: alkach555

      The source of information is somehow dubious.

      And even without a doubtful source, it was clear that our gift would not be missed. It’s just that they won’t endorse everything
      1. Guun
        Guun 12 February 2013 07: 59
        0
        Some 30 years later the documentary film will show the confrontation between Iran and the USA, then we can learn a lot. Good exchange.
  5. Predator-74
    Predator-74 12 February 2013 07: 18
    +13
    The drone emigrated to Russia through Iran, so he reacted to the news about the imminent collapse of the US economy !!!
    bully
    1. Pit
      Pit 12 February 2013 07: 46
      +5
      Quote: Predator-74
      so he reacted to the news of the imminent collapse of the US economy

      Or lost faith in the ideals of democracy laughing
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 12 February 2013 09: 23
        +3
        The drone faced a choice - to enroll in Friends of America or not. He chose the first! good
  6. maksim
    maksim 12 February 2013 07: 30
    +1
    why do industrial espionage or hijack an aircraft, it was decades ago, and now they’re hijacking an aircraft right from the front line, even a tank is harder to steal
  7. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 12 February 2013 07: 35
    +6
    I’m looking at Iran, the C300 analogue appeared very quickly, everything else sinned on China, but no, it turned out
    1. mamba
      mamba 12 February 2013 10: 24
      +1
      Quote: Ragnarek
      that I look at Iran very quickly appeared analog C300

      Yes, several missiles of the complex were towed by an evening submarine across the Caspian. laughing
      1. Dinver
        12 February 2013 14: 02
        +2


        Containers for missiles did not even try to disguise somehow as their development laughing
  8. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 12 February 2013 07: 35
    +1
    Fable change the flea, I won’t believe
    1. Pit
      Pit 12 February 2013 07: 48
      +1
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Fable change the flea, I won’t believe

      And why not, just found a reason to fulfill the terms of the contract
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 12 February 2013 07: 54
        +4
        You do not understand what is written. give secret information on the S-300 for a radio-controlled airplane. What is so awesomely secret in that airplane, a glider, so in Russia they can build like that, electronics, yes it’s typical, control codes, it was planted with the help of a Belarusian installation. S-300 today has as many secrets as there aren't in any drone, so duck it all
        1. Guun
          Guun 12 February 2013 08: 01
          +2
          It is not necessary that they were conveyed, if there Russian specialists simply helped adjust their air defense to the minimum performance under the S-300.
        2. neri73-r
          neri73-r 12 February 2013 09: 15
          +3
          I agree with you more than disagree, but if ours gave info on the S-300, I could fit this version to the export version, and not the one we have in service.
          1. Pit
            Pit 12 February 2013 09: 36
            0
            Quote: vladsolo56
            give secret information on the S-300 for a radio-controlled airplane.

            This airplane was just an excuse not to fall face down in the mud because of the refusal to supply air defense. Against the background of a supposedly "you give us an airplane and Old from it, and we give you air defense"
            probably did what it says Guun
            And for one, they gave rise to Israel’s doubts as to whether it is worth flying to Iran;
        3. PSih2097
          PSih2097 12 February 2013 19: 09
          0
          S-300 today has as many secrets as there aren't in any drone, so duck it all

          Well, the S-300 is removed from combat duty with a replacement for the S-400.
  9. UV58
    UV58 12 February 2013 07: 39
    -1
    no, don't believe it.
  10. demon ada
    demon ada 12 February 2013 07: 40
    +7
    helped Iran to create its air defense with architecture, components, and software resembling S-300.
  11. Krsk
    Krsk 12 February 2013 07: 59
    0
    s nothing personal ... hi
  12. Region65
    Region65 12 February 2013 08: 07
    +3
    Russian experts were able to take control of the American UAV and land it on Iranian territory. crying they took the toy away from Uncle Sam ... why did they offend the little one ??? what and so he needs drinks
    1. Professor
      Professor 12 February 2013 08: 50
      -7
      Russian experts were able to take control of the American UAV and land it on Iranian territory.

      Share your thoughts with us. how can you take control of a UAV and why if he was "planted" is he all glued and repainted? laughing
      1. Dinver
        12 February 2013 09: 14
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        Share with us your thoughts on how you can intercept the control of the UAV and why, if it was "planted", is it all glued and repainted?

        Something like this, well, maybe a little more complicated:

      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 12 February 2013 09: 25
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        Share with us your thoughts on how you can intercept control of the UAV and why, if it was "planted", it is all glued and repainted

        Professor, and he probably sat on the Iranian airfield laughing
        Your question must be addressed to the Pentagon, but they will probably not be answered there either, since its landing was a big surprise for them.
        Do not assume that everything in the world is made with a finger hi
        1. Windbreak
          Windbreak 12 February 2013 12: 11
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          and he probably sat on the Iranian airfield
          And the proof in the form of this fake .
          Made from the video of another P-175 Polecat drone http://www.metacafe.com/watch/256412/polecat_uav
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 12 February 2013 22: 19
            0
            Until the last moment, statements by the Iranian authorities about hacking RQ-170 UAV systems and technologies were not supported by substantial evidence. Some details about the activities of this instance of the drone in Afghanistan and in the USA, in California, and some other amount of secondary information were published. But experts found that such data could be obtained by Iranians through traditional intelligence operations and analysis of information from open sources (OSINT, Open Source INTelligence) .But the published video serves as clear evidence of the penetration of Iranians into the secrets of the drone. This video shows the shots taken by the camera installed in the lower part of the drone. The shooting demonstrates the area around the Kandahar airfield, the infrastructure elements of this airfield, the C-130 transport aircraft and the Reaper drone, standing in one of the airdrome hangars.
            From all of the above, it follows that the "memories" of the drone still contain a lot of interesting information that for some reason was not erased by the security protocol procedure, which should have been activated in case of loss of control over the drone. Naturally, the video shown does not contain any specific secret military information, which may be contained in the drone's memory, but it was simply not included in the public video for obvious reasons.
      3. PiP
        PiP 12 February 2013 12: 48
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        how can you intercept control of the UAV and why, if it was "put", is it all glued and repainted?

        It is not a problem to intercept a radio wave, but decoding a signal and realizing (interpreting) commands is much more difficult. Since interception was carried out only in flight and landing commands were not known (landing gear release, flaps, flaps laughing ) Therefore, a hard landing
      4. Ascetic
        Ascetic 12 February 2013 18: 12
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        Share with us your thoughts on how you can intercept control of the UAV and why, if it was "planted", it is all glued and repainted


        According to GPS expert Richard Langley of the University of New Brunswick (Canada), it is theoretically possible to take UAVs under control by suppressing the protected P (Y) channel. Typically, a UAV simultaneously uses a more reliable “military” P (Y) code at L2 and a simpler civilian C / A code at L1. If the autopilot loses data on the P (Y) channel, it switches to C / A. At this moment, it becomes possible to replace the simpler “civilian” signal with a false one, and bring the drone to the right place.
        If the Iranians can deliver selective interference at frequencies L1 and L2, they can use this autopilot vulnerability and replace the true coordinates with false ones.

        Another way hack secure channel codeBut it looks unlikely because for the sake of one drone they would not lose such a strategic "trump card"

  13. Rus_87
    Rus_87 12 February 2013 08: 10
    +4
    The S-300 (with all my respect and admiration for this complex) is the technology of the 80s of the last century, and the RQ-170 drone is a treasure trove of modern secret technologies (airframe material, its so-called "anti-radar" coating, electronics, intelligence systems and data transmission, etc.) So the exchange is more than equivalent (let's not be greedy and individual farmers in relation to allies drinks ), the more Iranians need S-300 technology, and we also have S-500 on the way, do not forget hi
  14. Tatar-in
    Tatar-in 12 February 2013 08: 24
    +1
    Now it would not be bad ... to make an advertising campaign for an installation that intercepts drones. Intercept him anywhere in the world and put him on the Red Square ... arrange a photo shoot ...
    And to sell this installation to friends of Syria.
    who will come to us with a sword ...
  15. Fox
    Fox 12 February 2013 08: 38
    +1
    I really hope that this is not a fake ... somehow contrary to the policy of our authorities.
    1. tungus
      tungus 12 February 2013 09: 03
      +1
      Just the opposite. Everything is in line with Putin’s policy. We strengthen allies, weaken enemies.
      After all, it’s not fools who sit in the Kremlin, no matter how they treat them, and there they understand that Iran is a cover for the Caspian. As long as Iran is independent of the Americans, they will not be in the Caspian. And they really want to find themselves there. Because both Turkmen gas and Kazakh and Azerbaijani oil too. So Vova supports Iran to the best of his ability. Unlike a teddy bear.
      There is of course another way to the Caspian Sea for the Americans-Azerbaijan. Apparently, including in connection with this, they are strengthening the Caspian flotilla. But there must also be political moves. Let's see what they will be.
  16. 3030
    3030 12 February 2013 08: 48
    +1
    I think transit through Ulyanovsk will give us more technology and information! yes
  17. Nayhas
    Nayhas 12 February 2013 09: 03
    0
    Some kind of crap "Moscow, for its part, has supplied Tehran with all the data on the S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems" - what data? What is the use of these data if Iran does not have the equipment for the production of the necessary components ?, the rocket fuel of the right brand? Iran trolls as always.
    1. novik225
      novik225 12 February 2013 09: 19
      +1
      By the way, a year ago Rogozin said something about the organization of a joint Russian-Iranian enterprise, which will be engaged in the development and production of air defense systems. Here is the answer. Our share in the assets of the enterprise is equipment and technology. Iranian share - drone data.
  18. Stiletto
    Stiletto 12 February 2013 09: 16
    0
    Dear Pendagon Generals! Let's change your drones to our C-300 missiles! Exchange in the air - isn't that great ?! If you like it, we can manned ....
  19. w.ebdo.g
    w.ebdo.g 12 February 2013 10: 06
    +4
    First of all, our developers received UAV software.
    combat codes. friend or foe codes. control algorithms, target tracking, and much more ...
    Now the amers will have to change their friend-alien codes throughout the army, and this is good money, time ...
    including design features of the engine and glider.
    it is very difficult to start designing from a "blank" sheet, when you look at the white field and understand how much to do ...
    Finishing someone else’s successful project is always much easier, faster, cheaper.

    I think so.

    1. Zubr
      Zubr 13 February 2013 00: 19
      +1
      Not always of course, but this cow is ours and we started milking it .... drinks
  20. sxn278619
    sxn278619 12 February 2013 10: 36
    -1
    All this is a big linden tree. Iran will not be able to copy anything. And the nonsense that all his past operations on the disk are - does anyone really believe that.
  21. spy master
    spy master 12 February 2013 12: 00
    0
    For me personally, the fact that control was intercepted by a BELARUSIAN device became interesting (and a little offensive); especially since I recently read an article about cooperation between Russia and the Belarusian defense-industrial complex - it turns out that we buy so much from Belarus - especially all kinds of radio electronics and other computing devices - and this is after numerous conversations about Russian programmers-hackers and various developments of our research institutes ... I, of course, respect Belarus and am happy for it ... but the point is that "it's a shame for the State."
  22. TSOOBER
    TSOOBER 12 February 2013 12: 13
    +2
    Regarding the article: there are two options, whether they planted it or not (like a blonde can meet a dinosaur on the street) the option didn’t put it; it makes no sense to discuss public relations for its own people;
    1- interception of control: the communication channel is quite "thick" data exchange is constant (both with the base and with the GPS satellite) it is "-", no matter how you protect it, hacking, interception, just "hammering" - it is quite possible - it means real.
    2 Planted - what does it give? Firstly, the materials of manufacture (we assume that Russian specialists worked), and secondly, the arrangement of all elements of both the engines and the electronic component, in the third the composition of the fuel, which is important and what if a breakthrough, and we are not aware, in the fourth, the software (I doubt that this drone developed a separate programming language, tea is not a virus to write, there are so many components in a heap to collect) Russian programmers are one of the best and will disassemble it "at once", to have an idea of ​​"how it works" is definitely the most important thing, in the fifth there is an element base whether breakthrough technologies or how on a "respected iPhone" everything was invented before us just successfully compiled, in the sixths about the information on the hard disk, if it was not physically destroyed, then the information can really be raised, and there 100% ssd stand, infa is superfluous, in Seventh whether or not it has a system of recognizing one's own stranger to dig deeper into it, too, a thing, etc., etc. PS-all this + plus the genius of Russian engineers and in a couple of three years we will see something similar in Russia!)
  23. TSOOBER
    TSOOBER 12 February 2013 12: 31
    +2
    spymaster - do not be discouraged during the times of the USSR, it was accepted that someone built aircraft (in Ukraine) someone produced electronic components like PLANAR in Belarus (by the way, it produced "coordinate tables" for microelectronics, the only production in the Union, and in the world there are only a few was infa that together with Russia they are going to "raise" the shop again) -we have one country, why divide?
  24. spy master
    spy master 12 February 2013 22: 05
    0
    TSOOBER,
    TSOOBER - thanks, after a bit of deliberation, I remembered this fact ... about one country - I completely agree.
  25. spy master
    spy master 12 February 2013 22: 07
    0
    TSOOBER, in Soviet times, it was so customary
    TSOOBER - thanks, after a bit of deliberation, I remembered this fact ... about one country - I completely agree.
  26. spy master
    spy master 12 February 2013 22: 09
    +1
    Quote: TSOOBER
    in Soviet times it was so customary

    TSOOBER - thanks for the reminder; in general, having wished, I remembered this fact ... about one country - I completely agree.
  27. Zubr
    Zubr 13 February 2013 01: 02
    +1
    At one time, in the early 2000s, in order to support the Almaz-Antey concern, ours agreed to sell the S-300 complexes to America. several complexes were purchased, but then the Americans refused due to the fact that they could not figure out the combat algorithms (they broke their brains). Couldn't decipher them. But Almaz-Antey was able, against all odds, to release several prototypes of the S-400 with these funds. Just once again I'm convinced that our school of military programmers is much stronger. And it's not easy to intercept a UAV.
  28. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 13 February 2013 11: 45
    +1
    Concerning the interception, they convinced it is technically possible. Everything is clear with the channels and the interception method. But I can’t imagine how to make the intercepted device move to the desired area, lower its height and land. Commands in the form of complex code messages of a few kilobits in size are transmitted to control the device. Moreover, each part of the message should be identified by the receiving equipment as it should. Any deviation from the message structure is ignored! The "brute force" method does not work here, the "random" method is the same!
    In order to "fully" take over control of the device, and land it Need to know team structure, and the teams themselves!
    The question arises, did our specialists already know the commands for this device? !!! If so, respect Respect mined Old !!!
    If you didn't know, "... was there a boy ..."
    1. to water
      to water 13 February 2013 18: 45
      0
      I’m a teapot in these matters. But theoretically suppose that the device was convinced that it was in the approximate area of ​​its regular landing after completing the task. And ensured the lack of feedback from the operator. Could it be that according to the flight program in the absence of commands by the operator, the device automatically performs a landing?
    2. Zubr
      Zubr 13 February 2013 23: 37
      +2
      Well, intelligence probably did a good job.
      I think that the capture of mobile intelligence played a significant role in this. center in Georgia in 2008 year. Well, there probably was a set and maybe not complete but rather capacious.