Taking over foreign experience ...

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The urgency of the problem of juvenile justice in Russia in recent times has often been mentioned in a number of media. The Military Review website also repeatedly published materials on the form in which the idea of ​​cultivating such a concept as the rights of a child can be converted without regard for family rights.

Numerous public organizations sounded the alarm, citing hundreds and thousands of examples of which option the situation with juvenile justice is degenerating, which has not yet had time to finally take shape in our country. In publications and television programs, this topic exposed all the existing problems with the protection of family values ​​in the modern state. Much attention was paid to the problem of juvenile justice at the Bishops' Council of the Russian Orthodox Church held in early February. The Russian Orthodox Church has categorically opposed the introduction of Yu's methods alien to Russia.

The overwhelming majority of Russians, as the analysis of all recent events shows, as well as the statistics cited by VTsIOM, are extremely negative about everything that today is trying to be imposed by certain forces in terms of juvenile justice.
Now we can state with confidence that all this uplifted, sorry for the pathos, the popular wave led to the fact that President Vladimir Putin himself paid attention to the problem. Obviously, one cannot say that the president was not aware of the problem associated with Yu, but the massive information campaign, revealing the essence of the concept of juvenile justice, clearly allowed the leading elite to look at the problem through the eyes of ordinary Russians. After all, you will agree, even when considering the same subject from two sides (from the side of an ordinary Russian and from a representative of the power elite), this subject may look quite uneven. In this regard, it is especially encouraging that the president, who unexpectedly for many, arrived at the congress of the parents of Russia in the Column Hall of the House of Unions, in fact criticized the norms of work imposed by our children and teenagers from outside.

One of the key phrases in the speech of Vladimir Putin at the congress of parents in Moscow was the phrase that state intervention in the family is possible only in extraordinary cases within the framework of all-round delicacy and without a formal approach, common to all. The President stressed that Russia should not blindly copy foreign experience, especially if such experience is associated with the moral suffering of the child and family, from which he was removed by the forces of state structures for one reason or another.

Taking into account the recent trends, it is possible to say with sufficient confidence that those who, with two hands and even feet, stood for the indispensable extrapolation of the laws of juvenile justice to the expanses of Russia, today will have to either change their point of view to the fundamentally opposite, or push this rather dubious idea without support from the state. The words of Vladimir Putin can be considered a fairly transparent signal to our current Parliament, which, frankly, has not been used to making decisions lately that differ from those of the Russian president. In many other cases, such a tendency with a “completely agreeable” parliament can be considered clearly not constructive, but in the case of the law on juvenile justice, whatever one may say, the parliamentary “no U” is identically equal to protecting Russian traditions and interests in terms of educating the younger generation.

After President Putin’s open remarks, there’s hardly any doubt that our legislators will have a different point of view than the one expressed by the head of state.

Once again, it can be emphasized that this is the case when the unity of opinions of the head of state and parliamentarians, even with possible initial differentiation of opinions regarding the expediency of introducing juvenile justice institutions in Russia, can serve the good of the whole country, the good of the family, the preservation of domestic traditions of upbringing .

It should be noted here that at one time the State Duma (of the previous convocation) had already considered the issue of amendments to the Federal Law Commission on the Russian Judicial System. One of the amendments concerned the creation of special courts throughout Russia that would deal exclusively with minors, as well as strengthening the role of the state in terms of its impact on the upbringing of the child. If the issue of the presence of juvenile courts then did not find much negative, then the question of state intervention in family values, when most families can feel the obvious pressure from the juvenile bodies that determine the fate of children, caused heated debates in 2010. Yelena Mizulina, a deputy from the “Fair Russia” faction in the State Duma, is now and will continue to relate to opponents of introducing UJ practices in the Russian Federation. Here is one of the phrases that Elena Mizulina expressed about 3 years ago in connection with the issue of building a juvenile justice system in Russia:

“Juvenile justice is inevitably transformed into a system of bodies vested with the authority to intervene in the affairs of the family. And in modern Russia, although juvenile courts do not exist in their pure form, a stable practice is emerging, similar to the practice of juvenile justice, including not only a specialized court to consider criminal cases involving juveniles in conflict with the law, but also a whole “army” of officials , including employees of the Department of Internal Affairs, guardianship agencies, social workers, assistants to “juvenile” judges, this is also a system of measures related to the institutionalized (usually excessive) interference in the internal affairs of the Lu, ultimately, it is the trial of the family, the parents. "


The deputy actually revealed the reverse side of UJ, and the reverse side of pushing through a positive decision on juvenile justice is: a) money, b) destruction of the family institution.

If we take into account that the practice of juvenile justice comes to us from the West, where the point “b” is mostly realized, then we, due to the corruption specifics of the bureaucracy, excuse me, the hordes in first place will obviously come out point “a”, which Ultimately, the point "b" for a too pull. After all, it is no secret to anyone that in Russia the so-called “local officials” are some kind of demigods who, by their own forces, have elevated themselves to this rank. And if the figures in the quarterly estimates for the “demigods” from the local guardianship and guardianship bodies suddenly come up and the problem of lack of funding from the state budget is revealed, then under the guise of “saving” children “from under the yoke of oppressors” of their parents, local orphanages and shelters "Understaffed" so that all estimates come together as needed ...

In order to realize what a swamp we can plunge into with the possible adoption of a law supporting the development of juvenile justice in Russia, let us give a few examples from those countries where the practice of U has already managed to gain serious momentum.

Sweden. Marianna Zigström lost her son Daniel by the local guardianship authorities who, with the help of the juvenile justice judicial authorities, determined that, say, the mother was paying too much attention to her 16-year-old child ... , it was necessary to thank her the same guardianship authorities. But we think so. Swedish guardians of the rights of children and young people (namely, these law enforcement officers are often given as an example) were decided differently. Daniel Zigström was sent to the family that was supposed to take care of him less than the mother of the young man did. As a result, the guardianship services were achieved: the guardians of Daniel, knowing full well what the young man was taken from his mother, decided that he did not need special care. It led to tragic consequences: during the next attack, no one helped Daniel, and he died. Was there after this a grandiose scandal of international scope, was the “Bergstrom act” approved, for example, in the USA? As you understand, there was no noise, because Swedish justice - he’s justice to all justice ... No cruelty, no arbitrariness ...

Finland. An interview with a representative of the Finnish government, Maria Guzenina-Richardson (Minister of Social Protection and Health) was published in a local newspaper. In this interview, a native of Transbaikalia states that tenders are being held in Finland for the redistribution of children withdrawn from families. The Finnish authorities have allocated for this purpose as much as 620 million euros. The meaning of the tender is that business representatives should, in fact, buy as many children as possible from the state. The more “bought”, the more benefits will receive from the state. But in order to “buy in”, it is necessary that the corresponding “goods” appear on the Finnish market. And where to get it? As an option: withdraw, taking advantage of interpretations of the laws of juvenile justice. To withdraw, for example, from persons with dual citizenship. They say that by non-Finnish methods you bring up - give it to us better, and we are already selling “special goods” at competitive prices.

By the way, among those children that the Finnish state is going to actually sell, there are 53 Russian children ... Apparently, Mrs. Guzenina-Richardson decided to actively naturalize into Finnish, once announcing the official Helsinki initiative as achieving European law ...

France. In this country there is a special article of the Civil Code, which sounds like this:

“If the health, safety, morality of a minor is under threat, or the fundamental principles of his upbringing are seriously undermined, a set of auxiliary educational measures can be taken in court. A petition to take these measures is filed by the parents of the minor (together or by any of them separately), by any other official guardian of the minor, by the minor himself, by any public institution dealing with the minor. Only in the most exceptional cases, these functions are reassigned to a juvenile judge. ”

In the third part of this article there are words that the separation of children from their parents in France can be carried out only if there is a special situation. However, more and more often, the French courts find precisely the “special situation” in this or that manifestation of family troubles. This often leads to surprising situations. Where children need to be immediately removed from criminal families, the guardianship does not manifest itself, and where no one is waiting for the representatives of these bodies - they are right there.

Here is one example: the seven-year-old Dylan from the town of Millau, for three years, was kept by his own parents, in fact, in slavery in his own house. He was not allowed out into the street. Food and water parents gave the child once a day. About the existence of a normal toilet Dylan did not know. For what purposes the child was held in captivity, the court decides. But that was before the trial.

A neighbor accidentally learned about the slavery of a child and turned to the local guardianship bodies. However, no reaction followed. The man turned again and again, but as he was informed, the line of consideration of his appeal had not yet come (to the question of a purely Russian bureaucracy). Then he decided to break into the house, where the boy was kept by force. After that, he told the police, but instead of thanking the courageous man, he himself faces a prison for violating the law on the inviolability of private property ...

If we want this perverted system of social norms relating to our children to get to Russia, finally destroying the moral foundations and questioning the adequacy of the legal system, then the project for the development of juvenile justice should be urgently supported ...

And after all, someone will definitely support ...
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  1. +9
    12 February 2013 08: 10
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    1. +3
      12 February 2013 08: 44
      Yes, Pavlik was an ideological fighter! Leftist, you understand! am
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      Even somehow not in a line.
      Which, in other matters, does not at all plead with the quality of the article and the importance of the problem.
      Article +
      1. +6
        12 February 2013 09: 09
        Quote: 123dv
        Рђ Р · Р ° РєР ° РєРёРµ идеи предлР° РіР ° ется СЃРґР ° РИР ° ть родител ей РїСЂРё РЅРѕРІРРРРРРјРєРєРєРє

        But don’t have to surrender, let them be afraid.
        And we get a narcissistic egoist who thinks that the right is not necessary to be earned can only be obtained by opening his beak, then to get a freebie, then to screech: "Comrades, the tiger is not given meat!
        1. Atlon
          +7
          12 February 2013 11: 21
          Quote: andrejwz
          And get the narcissistic egoist out

          That's right ... There is an attempt to form a new generation of consumers ... Modernized, but do not play around! Then the "golden" age for the world government will come. On the one hand, people who do not know how to deny themselves nothing, but on the other hand, the world government, which can refuse (in which case), and this is like death, for the consumption of a new generation, modernized ...
      2. +4
        12 February 2013 12: 18
        Quote: 123dv
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        xxxxxxxxxx
        Once they laughed at the slogan "family is the unit of society." But this is correct. no matter what slogans, flags, speeches hovered over the country, we have always preserved OUR ancient, deep, basic. Life - family, society, WORLD. We help the victims of the fire - with the whole world, we protect our native land - with the whole world. They are trying to destroy this foundation, directing the blow to the most precious thing - to our children. They never had this, and they themselves destroyed the rudiments that were. And now it became enviable that someone has! So they climb to us with their theories. And we'll give up the pipes!
        1. Atlon
          +1
          12 February 2013 12: 30
          Quote: Egoza
          And give the pipes!

          If we unite.
      3. +7
        12 February 2013 14: 48
        They themselves are no longer happy, and they are trying to instill in their grief jurisprudence.

        For example, a young mother is trying to cram two very Israeli children, six and eight years old, into a car. The young mother is exhausted on a beach day, the children are hungry, tired and hit each other on the head with inflatable sticks for swimming. While the children find out among themselves who the larger young mother is trying to put in the trunk of the car a refrigerator bag, one hundred and twenty toys, an air mattress, a bag with half-eaten apples, and God knows what else. The mattress does not give up. A young mother decides to start all over and dumps the contents of the trunk on the asphalt. At this point, the youngest child is trying to shove the head of the oldest child in a bucket with sand tins. Then the young mother promises that she will now put the youngest son in the trunk and he will lie there until his arrival home.
        “I will sue you!” The sly younger child says immediately. - This is an infringement of my rights in the family.
        Then the young mother promises that she will put both sons in the trunk, in fairness.
        “We will both sue you!” - say smart sons. - This is child abuse.
        Then the young mother crawls into the trunk, curls up and closes her eyes.
        For a few seconds, the children are at a loss.
        “We will sue you!” - finally, the elder says joyfully. “You left us on the street unattended.”

        Funny Jewish children !!!
        1. +1
          12 February 2013 21: 01
          Quote: Lavr75
          “We will both sue you!” - say smart sons. - This is child abuse.


          There was such an incident in my pedagogical activity — one of the trainings — and by the way, any training activity is associated with physical pain, so when one of my pupils became pained during the training, he did not hesitate and remember the school lectures about the rights of the child, and promised sue me .... And here are my friends, I thought hard, but after all I will; and I will not prove to anyone that I acted in the interests of this child, that if you want to achieve something in this life, you must be able to endure pain, including. Like that ..... Thank God it was the only case in my practice
    2. Avenger711
      +2
      12 February 2013 15: 24
      In fairness, it should have been conveyed to Pashkin’s father, that bastard was still there.
      1. itkul
        -1
        12 February 2013 16: 48
        Quote: Avenger711
        In fairness, it should have been conveyed to Pashkin’s father, that bastard was still there.


        And not only, alas happens

    3. 0
      12 February 2013 21: 38
      Someone else's experience is useful when YOUR head is on your shoulders.
  2. -1
    12 February 2013 08: 42
    So far I think this: they will pass the law ... and then they will figure it out. Somehow the government cannot do without it
    1. vilenich
      +1
      12 February 2013 09: 18
      Quote: RedDragoN
      So far I think this: they will pass the law ... and then they will figure it out. Somehow the government cannot do without it

      This is our way. Let's get in first, and then we'll figure it out!
  3. UV58
    0
    12 February 2013 08: 44
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0n2zs_p2pg

    Putin at the parents' congress
  4. 0
    12 February 2013 09: 02
    Yes, we currently interpret the existing laws as convenient for people from above (the matter of defense service), and it’s too early for Russia to adopt concerning South Ossetia. IMHO.
    1. Kaa
      +3
      12 February 2013 10: 51
      Quote: RomCH
      to accept regarding SJ, it’s too early for Russia yet.

      Again the policy of "double standards. The family is under control, and in the Naglo-Sason countries they are returning to corporal punishment in schools. Are they not related to Yu?" Now, let me say a few words without a protocol. What are we being taught family and school?"
      “Bounce to school!” - decided in Britain and returned to such a radical method of punishing and preventing school violations. By the way, the return of assault in schools supports a significant number of Britons, including the students themselves. Such a tough reaction to the actions of students is an imitation of brutality, which the education system lacks so much.
      It is noteworthy that the first of the corporal punishment, as a humiliating and painful procedure, was abandoned in the Russian Empire, and this exception was made in 1783 for educational institutions located in the territories that left Russia after the partition of the Commonwealth. The rest of the country continued to be beaten, which almost all Russian classics complained about without exception. In Britain, officially began to refuse physical assault in schools only in the late 80s. Moreover, this concerned only public schools. In 1999, corporal punishment was prohibited in England and Wales, in 2000 in Scotland and in 2003 in Northern Ireland. Another leader in world democracy, the United States, was also in no hurry to abandon the practice of bodily suggestion. Again, the system of private schools and public education should not be confused.The ban on the use of physical measures was adopted only in 29 states of the country, and only in two of them - New Jersey and Iowa - corporal punishment is prohibited by law and in private schools too. Moreover, in the 21st state, punishment in schools is not prohibited. These states are mainly located in the South of the USA. However, private schools, including prestigious ones, have left this tool of influence on students in their arsenal. And now physical effects are returning to all British schools officially. According to Independent, with reference to the results of the Times Educational Supplement, 49 percent of adults are not opposed to publicly flogging and other corporal punishment in schools. This was stated by every fifth out of 530 children surveyed.The return of corporal punishment to educational institutions is also supported by the current Minister of Education of the country Michael Gove... This summer, teachers were still allowed to physically prevent teenagers from acting if they threaten public order. And after the recent riots in London, according to the Minister of Education, the school should become tougher. "If some parent now hears at school:" Sorry, we have no right to use physical force against students, "then this school is not right. rights. The rules of the game have changed, "- said the minister. http://www.pravda.ru/society/family/pbringing/23-09-2011/1092384-
      school-
      0/
      1. Atlon
        +2
        12 February 2013 11: 17
        Quote: Kaa
        Again the policy of "double standards. The family is under control, and in the Naglo-Sason countries they return to corporal punishment in schools. Are they not related to Yu?"

        And SO just against the parents, in favor of the state (read world government). And therefore, parents cannot flog, but the state can! in general, some kind of wildness ... All this recalls some kind of terrible sci-fi story ...
        1. Al_miller
          0
          12 February 2013 14: 29
          Creepy - yes. But where is science fiction here? Some kind of surrealism. With elements of psychopathy and hysteria.
  5. +5
    12 February 2013 09: 02
    Alarming Putin's resume - "no need to rush"
    How to understand - he is against the principle or, like, the people have not matured, and later .... on how the card will fall.
    For whom it is interesting: Oleg Vereshchagin "Raising a Warrior"
    1. 0
      12 February 2013 09: 29
      Quote: andrejwz
      Alarming Putin's resume - "no need to rush"
      How to understand - he is against the principle or, like, the people have not matured, and later .... on how the card will fall.

      It seems to me that there is no need to look for subtext in all words, maybe in this case "no need to rush" means "no need to rush", otherwise we do a lot quickly, but then it takes a long time to redo.
      1. +4
        12 February 2013 11: 26
        The apotheosis of the idea of ​​juvenile justice combined with traditional Catholic "values" are Quebec, Canada 1944-1959. The so-called children of Duplessis. On the initiative of the authoritarian Catholic Premier of Quebec, Duplessis, children born out of legal marriage were taken from their parents and sent to orphanages. When there were not enough places in shelters, they began to send them to psychiatric hospitals (healthy !!! Children). Documents about real parents were destroyed so that children could not find them in the future. The Catholic Church ran the orphanages and psychiatric hospitals. Because They gave more money for keeping a child in a psychiatric hospital; many shelters were renamed into a psychiatric hospital. Both in psychiatric hospitals and in shelters, there were massive cases of sexual harassment of children. In psychiatric hospitals, they were also injected with medicines (healthy !!!). Only 20000 children passed through the mental hospital. Due to the nature of Canadian federal law, the central authorities were able to repeal all this feast of traditional catholic spirit panopticon only in 1960-1966. So it goes

        PS By the way, at the same time in Australia, the removal of children from mixed (white-aboriginal) families and their "re-education" in orphanages, and their transfer to foster parents continued. Such actions ended only in 1970.
        Hence the conclusion suggests itself. In fact, any interference by the authorities in the affairs of the family is evil, and absolute evil, for it is covered by good wishes (and it is known where the road is paved with good intentions). The only exception is cases of domestic sexual violence.
    2. wall
      +1
      12 February 2013 12: 01
      There is such an opinion, walking on the Internet, that this organization (the congress of parents, parental resistance) was created specifically to "ride" the popular indignation about Yu. Discontent is ripening very actively among the masses, and it will not take long to reach the massacre of juveniles and popular riots. Therefore, we decided to unite the parents in at least some kind of organization. And parents are not bad - they are heard. And the authorities are good - everyone is active under supervision. Who knows it all good or bad. It is good - if the opinions of representatives of all the parents of the country are taken into account when developing YU (and YU will be, do not hesitate). It’s bad if the leaders simply wipe out the whole movement, turning it into an ordinary talking shop and letting off steam for the people.
      1. +5
        12 February 2013 20: 18
        Quote: wall
        (and Yu will be, do not hesitate)

        Nine legislative initiatives submitted for adoption almost simultaneously radically change the relationship between family and the state and, in essence, all are juvenile, i.e. destroying the institution of parenthood.
        No. 1. Law No. 42197-6 of the Federal Law “On Amending Certain Legislative Acts of the Russian Federation on the Implementation of Social Patronage and Activities of Guardianship and Guardianship Bodies”
        For a long ten years he has been promoted by a member of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation B. Altshuller. It creates a system of forced control over each family and legitimizes the very process of removing a child from any family.
        Based on the actual content, the project may also be called the “Law on the Safe Selection of the Child from Any Family”.
        Included in the sample program by the decision of the State Duma for July 2013
        No. 2. Law No. 3138-6 of the Federal Law “On Public Control over Ensuring the Rights of Orphans and Children Left Without Parental Care”
        Also, for ten years he has been promoted by the same B. Altshuller and is accepted complete with the first, the first reading was held on October 20, 2012
        The bill opens for some non-profit public organizations (NPOs), according to the project, financially prosperous, the possibility of uncontrolled access to "no one's children": the right to freely enter children's homes, to have access to personal data and medical records of “children and other persons”, the right to copy them, the right to arrange these children at their own discretion, the right to mediate between the management of the orphanage and other persons and organizations.
        The law was adopted in first reading on March 12, 2012.
        No. 3. Law No. 284965-3 of the Federal Law “On state guarantees of equal rights for women and men” (“On state guarantees of equal rights and freedoms of men and women and equal opportunities for their implementation”)
        The bill has been lobbied by State Duma deputies E. Lakhova (since 2003) and E. Mizulina (since 2008); it suggests the abolition of the concept of “biological gender” and its replacement with the concept of “gender” (social gender, one’s own attitude to a person’s role, which may not coincide with physiological characteristics and distort its nature), the introduction of a “gender policy” in Russia, which will create a new reality in our lives — priority of the rights of perverts, “positive discrimination” of the current majority, legitimization of “relations” between certain persons who are in the bill are called “persons with family responsibilities”, entails the abolition of true parenthood
        The law was adopted in the first reading in 2003, the second reading was broken twice
        No. 4. Law No. 617570-5 of the Federal Law “On Culture in the Russian Federation”
        The bill will consolidate the country's prospects under Law No. 284965-3 on gender equality. It radically differs from the current law in its focus on “priority of human rights, tolerance and openness to the world community”;
        There was no public discussion of the bill at the moment, but its author, the former deputy G. Ivliev, who has now become deputy minister of culture, has already announced the need for its urgent adoption, and State Duma Chairman S.E. Naryshkin May 25, 2012 called for the modernization of culture. Both laws constitute the second dual twin juvenile scheme that destroys parenthood.
        1. +3
          12 February 2013 20: 26
          No. 5. Law No. 38463-6 “On the Accession of the Russian Federation to the Convention on Jurisdiction, Applicable Law, Recognition, Enforcement and Cooperation in Respect of Parental Responsibility and Measures for the Protection of Children” (The Hague Convention of 1996)
          The Hague Convention of 1996 is the second of the three Hague Conventions that Russia should adopt in the near future. All proposed Hague Conventions (1980, 1996 and 2007) are defined by lobbyists as “conventions aimed at protecting the rights of children,” even a whole project with a budget of 500 thousand euros was created for their implementation in Germany by the German Foundation, and their main goal is to replace the original and inalienable “parenthood” with two acquired and alienated rights - “custody rights” (the right to communicate with the child) and “access rights” (the right to determine the location of the child)
          The 1996 Hague Convention in Russia was adopted on May 25, 2012.
          The law has not yet been adopted
          No. 6. National plan (strategy) for children for 2012-17.
          The national plan paves the way for the reorientation of all state policies to the priority of the rights of the child and the protection of these rights within the family, thus declaring the family an enemy of the child and legitimizing juvenile technology in the state.
          The decree on the adoption of the “National Strategy for Children” was signed by the President on June 1, 2012.
          No. 7. Agreement between the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) and the CIS Interparliamentary Assembly on cooperation in promoting reproductive health and rights
          UNFPA Continues 1994 Cairo International Conference on Population and Development population decline in the world.
          The agreement was signed on May 21, 2012.
          No. 8. Model Law on Reproductive Health and Rights
          Reproductive technologies are the absolutization of the right to abortion, budget financing of IVF (artificial reproduction of people), the introduction of sex education for children in schools.
          The law has not yet been submitted, although most likely it has already been prepared, and, possibly, will appear on the scene very soon. assured by V. Matvienko.
          No. 9. Draft Law of the Federal Law “On the Commissioner for the Rights of the Child” (with expanded powers and autonomy of the institute being created)
          The goal of adoption of the law declared by V. Matvienko is to remove the Commissioner from the influence of the President, expand his rights and powers, focus on the juvenile goal - the priority of the rights of the child, unlimited control of the family, greatly increase the risk of creating uncontrolled parallel power and the destruction of the institution of parenthood. A bill submitted personally by the President of the Council of Federations to the President of the country, not presented to the public.
          1. +3
            13 February 2013 13: 11
            Hmm, really destroy. And where they look, the name of this juden is the corresponding Altshuller (supervor) laughing And if I’ve been pushing for 10 years, then oooooochen it’s necessary, (you should see the grandmother hapanul, you need to work out, or in proportion) negative
  6. +3
    12 February 2013 09: 43
    Why Juvenile Justice? Look at the Finns, there this yuyu turned into an elementary bureaucratic racketeer. Why is it imposed on everyone? They want to destroy a family, raise a generation without traditions, their mother is like that. Now, after the 90s, the Pepsi generation is growing. Everything is upside down. Patriots in prisons, voryo with a song in life. The TV in general has turned into a zombie box. I remember in the 80s we showed Western students, they loudly admired our television program:
    "Your television provides food for both the heart and the mind", then he was still very surprised. Now you tell your daughter - she is surprised. That's really what you don't value.
    1. +9
      12 February 2013 10: 24
      TV PROGRAM
      March 25 - 31, 1985
      (Moscow)
      Monday
      25 MARCH
      First program. 8.00 - Time. 8.35 - Football Review. 9.05 - "Answer me, buglers!" 9.35 - "We call this land the Motherland". 10.35. 14.30. 16.00 - News. 14.50 - Rural horizons. 15.30 - Mom's school. 16.05 - Premiere of the film. film for children "Guest from the Future". 1st series. 17.10 - "Greece. Independence Day". 17.55 - "Boldinskaya insomnia". 18.45 - Today in the world. 19.00 - Cartoon. 19.10 - Business and people. 19.45 - "350 days in pickets". TV sketch. 20.05. 21.35 - Premiere of the film-play "White Tent". 21.00 - Time. 22.30 - Today in the world.

      Second program. 8.20 - "Striving in depth". 8.50 - Concert. 9.35 - "Do not be told for the wedding." 10.05 - Science and Life. 10.35 - "The heart is full of song." 11.05 - "BAM continues". 11.25 - Fundamentals of the Soviet state and law. 11.55 - Film for children. "About Vitya, about Masha and the Marines." 13.00 - Russian speech. 13.Z0 - Cartoon. 13.50 - Program of the Perm television studio. 14.45 - "Kuzedeevskie miracles". 15.10. 18.00. 23.10 - News. 18.15 - I serve the Soviet Union! 19.15 - Rhythmic gymnastics. 19.45 - "Good night, kids!" 20.00 - USSR Football Championship. Dynamo Moscow - Chornomorets. 2nd half. 21.00 - Time. 21.35 - "The Seagull". Hood. movie.

      Moscow program. 19.00 - Moscow. 19.30 - Moscow region. Subsidiary farm. 20.00 - "Good night, kids!" 20.15 - "Science and Technology". 20.25 - "I can't help but sing." 21.00 - Time. 21.35 - Information Bureau. 21.50 - "Moscow meetings". 22.40 - Advertising. 22.55 - Moscow news.

      Tuesday
      26 MARCH
      First program. 8.00 - Time. 8.35 - I. Stadnyuk. "White Tent". Film performance. 10.20 - "Spring". Cinema sketch. 10.25 - Premiere of the TV show "You won't get bored with us". 1st series. 11.10. 14.30. 16.15 - News. 14.50 - The five-year plan is everyone's business. 15.20 - Schoolchildren are in the concert hall. 16.20 - Premiere of the film. film for children "Guest from the Future". 2nd series. 17.25 - Premiere doc. film "Do you love Bach?" 17.45 - "Dmitry Gnatyuk". Film concert. 18.45 - Today in the world. 19.00 - Science and Life. 19.30 - Concert. 19.50 - Premiere doc. film "Victory Strategy". Film 3 - "From the walls of Moscow". 21.00 - Time. 21.35 - The writer and life. 22.30 - Today in the world. 22.45 - Concert.

      Second program. 8.20 - "The Seagull". Hood. movie. 9.55 - "Alarm clock". 10.25 - Chess school. 10.55 - "Baikal and Transbaikalia". 11.25 - Concert. 12.00 - Your Leninist library. 12.30 - Dagestan television program. 13.25 - "You are not an orphan." Hood. movie. 14.40 - French. 15.10. 18.00. 22.45 - News. 18.15 - "... Up to sixteen and older." 19.00 - International panorama. 19.45 - Concert. 20.00 - "Good night, kids!" 20.15 - "Labor lesson. Excellent". 20.30 - Sports for the week. 21.00 - Time. 21.35 - "Dangerous turn". Hood. movie. 1st series.

      Moscow program. 19.00 - Moscow. 19.50 - "Round table" of the propagandist. 20.00 - "Good night, kids!" 20.15 - Folk art. 21.00 - Time. 21.35 - Concert of brass music. 22.30 - Moscow news.
      1. +4
        12 February 2013 15: 05
        Grunted, already in his throat. Now I tell my son, he listens with his mouth open. And I’m worried, because he’s living in today's shit, this is also x ... e Yu. Oh, they dragged the country, now how much blood spitting, to revive traditions and values, etc. But I think we can handle it. soldier
        1. +1
          12 February 2013 18: 15
          thank you .... neither Ukraine nor Russia has died yet, new fighters will stand up
          1. 0
            12 February 2013 19: 39
            The return of the prodigal son can take place only from the very depth of the fall, from the very bottom of the garbage can. Then only when it becomes so sick for everyone that it is already impossible to endure, then we can experience the joy of turning from the paths of evil to the light of the common good.
  7. Etna
    +4
    12 February 2013 10: 30
    The state needs to pay close attention to the revival of family values, which are traditional for the Russian family. What have we got as a result of trying on various models of behavior that have come to us from the West? Almost complete loss of moral and family values, when relations between men and women or women and women or men and men are built on the principle "To you or to me?" - "OK Bye". And nobody wants to create families and take responsibility for raising children. A nafig bother? Everyone is having fun - and everyone is hanging out on Mamba or the like. sites. Of course, it is easier to bring in several million foreigners from the former Soviet republics. Population growth? Height! But what about the quality of this very stuff? Let's polish everything with juvenile justice - and that's it, take us with your bare hands. It's all sad ...
  8. +10
    12 February 2013 10: 42
    Thanks to Alexey for the article. Clear business - my hot and active support is all who are against! And those who are FOR are just moral perverts, or they don’t want to turn on their head and think.
    There is a usual UK. If, for example, a scumbag-father cripples a child, then everything is simple - the father is in the zone, but the guardianship authorities scurry around and try to break through the allowance for the loss of the bread-winner.
    If the parents crippled the child, then let them prove that it was intentional, and then they sit down. If the parents are both perverts and cripple the child, then they can be deprived of their rights, and the child can be given to relatives by paying them a benefit.
    So it was before !!!! But here some moral chikatil decided to introduce a juvenile with us in order to hammer their snouts into our families. And there you look, we can parents and some money in order to pay off tossed. And how many ways are there to raise money for children. They say many children are generally taken to Kosovo and there they are disassembled. A kidney costs 200 thousand dollars.
    It is necessary not only to slow down the SJ, but also to severely punish all those freaks who have already taken their children from their families.
    What happened to the children of the Zaitsev-Voskresensky family? I wrote an article about them. Then Malakhov showed them. They decided, therefore, to give the parents a probationary period, but I did not understand what were they going to experience? What will they get out of poverty sharply? No comments. By the way, I'm sure Malakhov is an ardent admirer of Yu.
    1. Marek Rozny
      +3
      12 February 2013 16: 13
      Magadan, I will support your opinion. Absolutely agree.
  9. anchonsha
    +6
    12 February 2013 11: 03
    Let's live our way, according to Russian, with our way of life, with our life values. The West has lost its chastity and it is irreversible. YU, too, that homo-geism is alien and disgusting. In the Federal Republic of Germany, priests corrupted children by raping them. And now "gloriously known" Posner accuses us of homophobia in his video and calls us a dense people
    1. Atlon
      0
      12 February 2013 11: 54
      Quote: anchonsha
      The West has lost chastity and this is irreversible.

      While Russia (USSR) was behind the Iron Curtain, the West was corrupted, trampled and crushed by the world government. The period of socialism, many interpret as a lag behind the whole world. 70 years of "lagging behind" have preserved our family, enduring values, individuality. After the fall of the Iron Curtain, we are rapidly catching up with the "civilized" world in terms of unscrupulousness, consumption, money-grubbing, tolerance, ersatz food and other abominations ...
  10. +2
    12 February 2013 11: 05
    Something tells me (from the bottom of my heart) that Putin’s words about juvenile justice are nothing more than a ritual mumble aimed at drowning out public grumble ... And the law will be quietly adopted for this mumble ... Well, maybe a little correction for cosmetics will bring ...
    ... There is an order (read - decree) of the foreign rulers of Russia - that means it must be fulfilled ... What did Putin say about the shortcomings of educational standards and the law on education ??? And the law has been adopted. What rulers are sick of about the fight against corruption - and it blooms ... And so in everything. In words, one thing, in fact, another.
    And it will be the same with Yu ... (I would like to make a mistake).
  11. Psychojoker
    +4
    12 February 2013 11: 09
    The European values ​​are there, the European values ​​are here. Do they really up there believe that everything foreign is necessarily the best and right? Or if this is done for profit, then for what? What money is there, what are the benefits? belay
  12. Atlon
    +7
    12 February 2013 11: 10
    When I was a child, I was raised quite strictly. Especially grandmothers. Parents were still more liberal. And here is my grandmother, the old pre-revolutionary school (from the "noble"). Therefore, in the summer at my grandmother's, it was hard for me ... No pampering like sweets, ice cream. Everything is according to the "norms". Breakfast, lunch and dinner are strictly on schedule. No snacks. Do you want to eat? Don't eat, next meal is on schedule. Candy (one, two) on weekends. Pocket money, dosed. Cinema and ice cream, twice a week. games with peers, in the afternoon, in the morning, housework and chores. TV only in the evening, and one children's film during the day. Honestly, it was difficult for me. And even offended. Now I understand that everything is correct!
    Well now what? For example, I am against any Pepsi, lollipop, and other nonsense. However, do not give the child chips, so what? Violation of rights with all that it implies? I wasn’t flogged, but my parents were flogged! Especially boys (father and brothers, and mother's brothers), on weekends, at the end of the week. But the girls also got it sometimes. All grew up with normal, adequate people. I believe that UJ is another attempt by the world government to squeeze control over people. Now in the most important thing, in the family. And this is the fundamental unit of society. The resolution of homosexuals, the ability to select children, and the promotion of tolerance, is violence against traditional values. And the main task is to regulate the population.
    You know, you read the news, and you think: "The world has gone crazy!"
    1. +3
      12 February 2013 11: 19
      Quote: Atlon
      And the main task is to regulate the population.

      Dear Atlon, I wonder if you have your own vision of what needs to be done now? How to fix this, after all, in France, "gomosyatina" did not always have conclusions, then it is necessary to do. It was the fascists who came for the adult population. and the liberals have come for our children and grandchildren. How do you think?
      1. Atlon
        0
        12 February 2013 11: 34
        Quote: ziqzaq
        This is the Nazis came for the adult population. and the liberals came for our children and grandchildren. How do you think?

        It is not Liberasti who came for your children. This world government has come for your children! You look around. About what is happening (and we gradually, imperceptibly got used to it), about 30 years ago, I could only read in a gloomy, delusional, science-fiction novel! In vain, many underestimate the information about world government. This is reality, and the reality is terrible. I don’t know, it can be twitching too late, but it will only get worse. The world is rapidly degrading, and this is the direct activity of the Masonic government.
        1. +2
          12 February 2013 11: 56
          Quote: Atlon
          The world is rapidly degrading, and this is the direct activity of the Masonic government.

          Well, this is clear to everyone, but what to do then? I repeat: I would like to hear your opinion on how to resist this Jewish Freemasonry?
          1. Atlon
            +3
            12 February 2013 12: 27
            Quote: ziqzaq
            and what to do then? I repeat: I would like to hear your opinion on how to resist this Jewish Freemasonry?

            1. Recognize that it is! Those who talk about this are often ridiculed. Many people consider this to be nonsense. But if you read some sources (David Icke for example), look at the news, study history over the past 100 years and turn on logic, you can simply "calculate" it (the world government).
            2. Disseminate information about him wherever possible! Try to convey to people what is actually happening, although it looks fantastic ...
            3. Provide support to the President, real, not online. I am sure that only together we can counter this. He alone cannot handle it. Report corruption to investigative authorities. Write to the reception of the president and prime minister. Not swamp rallies, but real things we need!
            4. Introduce severe censorship! Revise the broadcasting network, close harmful programs, ban idiotic TV shows.
            5. Review the standards for admission of food products to the market. exclude all chemistry.

            In general, I’m not an expert, of course, and I don’t know what to do ... But the fact that all this will not end in good, I understand.
            1. +2
              12 February 2013 12: 39
              Quote: Atlon
              Recognize that it is! Those who talk about it are often ridiculed. Many people think this is nonsense.

              Yes, I completely agree with you, I just call them liberalists.
              Quote: Atlon
              This world government has come for your children!

              They came for all the children. They create with the help of television, school programs, juveniles. justice is such a situation that the youth erases the cultural traditions of the nation, which actually makes us Russian. As a result, a generation will grow up who do not remember their kinship, "citizens of the world", and there is no need to defeat anyone. The most powerful weapon FIGHTING SPIRIT, now the enemy is aiming against him ....
              1. Atlon
                0
                12 February 2013 12: 54
                Quote: ziqzaq
                Yes, I completely agree with you, I just call them liberalists.

                Not entirely true ... Liberation is a weapon, "fighting" squads of the world government (MP). The children of the MP are brought up differently. In severity, in abstinence (this is far from the "golden youth), in the traditions of the family, they receive an excellent education, etc. Liberals are just sixes. But they are destroying the entire human society, regardless of national or geographic characteristics.

                Quote: ziqzaq
                They came for all the children.

                Quite right! Recently, he began to doubt the "eternal confrontation" between Russia and the West. A picture of a contrived confrontation emerges. Initiated MP who is over the scrum. We were inaccessible to them for 70 years, now we are rapidly catching up with the rest of the world.
                1. 0
                  12 February 2013 12: 59
                  Quote: Atlon
                  Not quite right ..

                  I will not go into terminology.
                  Quote: Atlon
                  We have been inaccessible to them for 70 years

                  This is the point ......
                  1. Atlon
                    0
                    12 February 2013 13: 54
                    ziqzaqread this: http://rustimes.com/blog/post_1295870961.html
                    I think you will like it. By the way, I highly recommend it to everyone!
        2. +1
          12 February 2013 15: 32
          The world is really changing, and not for the better, but you need to twitch, this has already happened more than once. Let us recall whether the Great Patriotic War was 1612. If Minin and Pozharsky didn’t wave and kick the Poles, that would be, and then there would be no country at all, practically. Or if the partisans would not derail thousands of trains with troops and ammunition, as it would be at the front. And in the search for partisans, the most efficient Wehrmacht troops were involved, in the forests, and not at the front. So you should always twitch, this is the spirit of SLAVES, and he ALWAYS, I emphasize ALWAYS won, even when it was really bad.
    2. Psychojoker
      +1
      12 February 2013 11: 21
      Regulation of the European population, the smallest race. Paradox recourse
      1. Atlon
        +2
        12 February 2013 11: 37
        Quote: Psyjoker
        European population regulation

        No, not European, the whole population. Just the weakest will die out first. Corrupted by tolerance. Those who do not want to die out themselves will be reduced by military means. Arab spring, this is the second direction of impact. In a mess and constant warfare, enough people will perish.
    3. Skavron
      +2
      12 February 2013 11: 35
      I believe that UJ is another attempt by the world government to squeeze control over people.

      He said everything correctly. See at the root.
    4. Natalia
      +2
      12 February 2013 11: 39
      Quote: Atlon
      SJ is another attempt by the world government to squeeze control over people

      This is an attempt to make us idiots (to put it mildly), to corrupt and decompose those values ​​and the upbringing that has developed over more than a few hundred years ... I think this is an attempt to prevent us from properly educating our children.

      This is a criminal law; it cannot be passed. negative
      It's just unheard of that someone will come to my house and will teach me how to raise my child. A stupid idea to adopt disgusting laws from countries where men sleep with men and women with women (and this is in the order of things), what other abomination will we take from them? fool

      I won’t give my child to anyone! angry
      1. Atlon
        +3
        12 February 2013 11: 44
        Quote: Natalia
        I won’t give my child to anyone!

        I thought about it somehow ... And I decided for myself, I will shoot REALLY everyone who came on this topic ... So, from a double-barreled shotgun. Of course, one cannot hold out for long, but at least create a precedent.
        1. Natalia
          +5
          12 February 2013 11: 56
          Quote: Atlon
          I will shoot REALLY everyone who came on this topic ...

          Here, and so many will do, I am sure. And I, including, and neighbors will help to fight back from such.
          Because it's unheard of .......... I have no words. The people will clearly not understand such a "joke of humor".
          1. Atlon
            +3
            12 February 2013 12: 46
            Quote: Natalia
            The people will clearly not understand such a "joke of humor".

            And people are taught gradually ... Many came out against homosexuals? No. And homosexuals do not hesitate to "defend" their "rights". Many openly oppose bog bastards? No ... Take the blogosphere, some tolerastic blogs ... You read it, and it really seems that EVERYONE is dissatisfied. We were dismembered, divided, embittered. We have lost the main Russian values. In our street they do not help the fallen one, or they pass by the crowd beating one, or against the Caucasians sticking to the girl. We have lost ourselves. Almost lost ... And none of the neighbors will come to the rescue. Everyone will "shoot back" himself, alone. That's what needs to be broken! Indifference. Then we will win! The public should be above the personal. Now I understand that. I was younger, I thought differently. For only together we are strong, and if everyone is good, then everyone too!
            1. +4
              12 February 2013 13: 01
              Quote: Atlon
              ... And homosexuals do not hesitate to "defend" their "rights".

              Well, it’s in Moscow, let it out in the provinces and declare their rights angry
              Quote: Atlon
              We have lost the main Russian values.

              No, they didn’t lose, it’s just under the word We, there are people, there are officials, but there are homosexuals. So not all of us have lost values, far from all.
              Quote: Atlon
              On our street they don’t help the fallen, or they pass by a crowd of beating one, or against Caucasians adhering to a girl.

              What is true is true !!!
              Quote: Atlon
              And none of the neighbors will come to the rescue.

              It all depends on our neighbors, while friendly.
              Quote: Atlon
              at. For only together we are strength, and if everyone is happy, then everyone too!

              Just +
            2. Natalia
              +3
              12 February 2013 13: 41
              Quote: Atlon
              You read, and the truth is that everyone around is dissatisfied.

              But on the account of this, you are right, you read komenty in rambler, everything is bad with them. Putin doesn’t like their life shorter than a full r .... But I think that it’s just impossible to think like that, so I’m sorry, you can caress anyone. And it seems that these are the so-called blogs and sites, they are specially trying to create the appearance of general discontent ...... but in fact there are a bunch of bastards (like Udaltsov) sitting there and just trying to create the appearance of revolutionary moods ... I’m sick of these.
              And in this sense, we need to create more sites like THIS (Military Review), such sites should be created by political sane people, and not by pseudo-patriots.
              Quote: Atlon
              Many went against homosexuals? No

              As for homosexuals, they just need to be beaten and beaten mercilessly, so that they do so that we look for them, so that thoughts do not appear in public. It is necessary that people always perceive such people as moral freaks (mental unhealthy) and their place in the best mental hospital.
              1. +1
                12 February 2013 14: 02
                Quote: Natalia
                As for homosexuals, they just have to beat and beat mercilessly

                Well, if a lady already says this, then perhaps it's time to wet them in the outhouse laughing
                Hi Natasha drinks
                1. Natalia
                  +1
                  12 February 2013 14: 06
                  Hi Sasha) Yes, it's high time, as comrade Putin said: "- We will soak in the toilet."
                  1. 0
                    12 February 2013 14: 27
                    Why so cruel? And even litter the toilets. It is better to be kinder to the type of people - 200 grams of castor oil 3 times a day, in severe cases, increase the dose and / or frequency.
                    1. 0
                      12 February 2013 15: 00
                      Quote: siber
                      200 grams of castor oil 3 times a day, in severe cases, increase the dose and / or frequency.

                      Well, now all the toilets will also be clogged with them. They want love, let them go to Paris or where they still love them.
                      1. 0
                        12 February 2013 15: 12
                        Fertilizer source for agricultural enterprises, let them sit right in the fields. They still do not care about love.
              2. 0
                12 February 2013 14: 14
                just beat and mercilessly beat

                as well?
              3. +2
                12 February 2013 14: 54
                Quote: Natalia
                As for homosexuals, you just have to beat and beat mercilessly,

                I will support.
                1. 0
                  12 February 2013 16: 17
                  And you, "fighters", offer them just ... to beat! And you stuffed a lot of queers!
                  How much per month, quarter, year ???? Something in the criminal news does not write that "in the city of N over the past month 20 people with non-standard sexual orientation have suffered from hooligans. Eighteen of them are in serious condition in the hospital"!
                  Because these are just words !!!! We talked and that's it !!! Do not do anything else!
                  Therefore, I propose to think over the question of how to find an opportunity to return the article for sodomy to the Criminal Code. Can create a thread on the forum for collecting opinions against "alternatively" oriented "type of citizens", organize a collection of signatures for the return of this article. Arrange a social advertisement on this topic. The people must understand that being a fagot is bad! That is not normal!
                  In the meantime, we see this scum on the "zomboyaschik", they live in a high, have "grandmothers", and do not work, arrange their "parades", and their advertising is already in their lifestyle - "Become this, and you will live like this same "!
            3. Natalia
              +1
              12 February 2013 13: 56
              Quote: Atlon
              We were dismembered, divided, embittered

              And about this I can say that soon everything will be fine with us (according to the law of compensation) ..... we are a people that endures and endures all the time, and that I understood for the long-term existence of the Russian nation that never there will be such a force in the world that could defeat us, not one enemy can do it (no matter how great its strength may seem) .... because we are a tenacious and indestructible nation. Proven by time.
              1. Atlon
                +3
                12 February 2013 14: 45
                Interestingly said the Russian philosopher Ilyin Ivan Alexandrovich (1883-1954)

                “What promises the world the dismemberment of Russia. 1950 "

                “We will establish right away that the international backstage dismemberment of Russia does not have“ the slightest reason ”, no spiritual or real-political considerations, except revolutionary demagogy, an absurd fear of united Russia and a long-standing hostility to the Russian monarchy and Eastern Orthodoxy. We know that Western peoples do not understand and do not tolerate Russian identity. They experience a single Russian state as a dam for their commercial, linguistic and aggressive distribution. They are going to divide the all-united Russian “broom” into twigs, to break these twigs one by one and to kindle with them the fading fire of their civilization. They need to dismember Russia in order to lead it through the Western equation and unleashing, and thereby destroy it: a plan of hatred and lust for power ...

                And when, after the fall of the Bolsheviks, world propaganda throws the slogan “Peoples of the former Russia, dismember!” Into all-Russian chaos, then two possibilities will open: either the Russian national dictatorship will emerge inside Russia, which will take strong “reins of government” into its own hands, and extinguish this blank slogan and lead Russia to unity, suppressing all sorts of separatist movements in the country; or such a dictatorship will not work out, and the country will begin an unimaginable chaos of movement, return, revenge, pogroms, the collapse of transport, unemployment, hunger, cold and anarchy ...

                It is not clever. Not far-sighted. Hastily hated and hopeless for centuries. Russia is not human dust or chaos. It is, first of all, a great people who did not squander their strength and did not despair in their calling. These people were hungry for free, for peaceful work, for property and for national culture. Do not bury him prematurely!

                The historical hour will come, he will rise from the imaginary coffin and demand his rights back! ”


                Pay attention to the year of publication! 1950th !!!
                1. Natalia
                  +2
                  12 February 2013 15: 36
                  Quote: Atlon
                  Interestingly said the Russian philosopher Ilyin Ivan Alexandrovich

                  In short, it can be emphasized from this that the time will come (it is necessary to get it soon) and we ourselves will divide all of them ....... mmmm well, or they ourselves (by stupidity, by chance of course) ....... Eurozone crisis multibillion-dollar debts and all that ...... ......)
                  1. +1
                    12 February 2013 15: 58
                    Quote: Natalia
                    .. Eurozone crisis multi-billion debts and all that ...... here)

                    Natasha, money and crisis is not the main thing. In America there was a crisis in the 30s, but they survived, people survived. Now society has degraded so much that man is an enemy to man. It is the absence of a human face and mores that will aggravate them.
                2. +1
                  12 February 2013 15: 55
                  Quote: Atlon
                  Pay attention to the year of publication! 1950th !!!

                  It is a pity that we, out of habit, do not listen to our ancestors, but listen to EBN and its shushary. Many people predicted it.
            4. +1
              12 February 2013 14: 53
              Quote: Atlon
              And people are being taught gradually ..
              Naturally, before the revolution it was difficult to imagine that the very name "Russia" would disappear, however, it disappeared. So what is incomprehensible and abnormal today will become the norm tomorrow. But we should not forget the third player after man and the devil, God. He can intervene with all his strength and determination, remember Sodom and Gomorrah.
              1. Atlon
                0
                12 February 2013 15: 30
                Quote: Uncle
                He can intervene with all his strength and determination, remember Sodom and Gomorrah.

                Maybe ... but then it’s all bad for everyone. It is better not to wait, but to point the devil in his place, and send him and his minions, straight to Hell!
        2. antinon
          +2
          12 February 2013 13: 36
          think about it too
        3. 0
          12 February 2013 14: 49
          Quote: Atlon
          And I decided for myself, I will shoot REALLY but everyone who came on this topic ...

          They are much trickier, you can’t take them with a double-barreled shotgun ...
    5. 0
      12 February 2013 16: 57
      Quote: Atlon
      Honestly, it was hard for me. And even offended. Now I understand that everything is right!

      I support from and to! Himself from grandmothers got it (though his grandfather was softer, but he was probably out of male solidarity). And they flogged regularly - especially when he brought deuces from school, but didn’t have enough spirit to confess (for some time he was even a pathological liar). I realized that they all did the right thing only in the year 2003 (when over 20 years passed). But disciplined, educated, cultured. I bow to them for this.
  13. +3
    12 February 2013 11: 41
    The article is good, the author - respect.
    Yu is a Western democratic notion. From the same opera - education reform and other "innovations" of homegrown children .... krats.! Jokes are jokes, but it is not for nothing that they say: "What is good for a Russian, then death for a German!" Everything must be adapted to our conditions, and at the same time the rational grain is lost. And so it is everywhere. Now it has become fashionable to call laws by proper names, and this law should be called "Pavlik Morozov's Law"! Who agrees"?
    Remembering the Soviet times, I recall that in all police departments there were units for working with minors. There were inspectors who knew in their territories all dysfunctional families, all street children. And they worked with them, and took measures, and guided the true path, and deprived of parental rights. And it was like that. But the work was underway. And the money for this was clearly gone no more than it would go to the South Ossetia, judges, the new apparatus, etc. But now the police are not up to the trinkets. The next change of bosses, the next generals occupy offices, and there is no one to work. And no one has been thinking about children for a long time - what the hell, you still can’t make money with them, just some problems. This is how the number of homeless children grows with the growing number of billionaires. Could these be interconnected processes?
    1. Atlon
      +1
      12 February 2013 11: 59
      Quote: Very smart
      And no one has been thinking about children for a long time - what the hell, you still can’t make money with them, just some problems.

      Yes, at least start making children's films !!!

      Quote: Very smart
      This is how the number of homeless children grows with the growing number of billionaires. Could these be interconnected processes?

      But what about ?! If somewhere has arrived, then somewhere has necessarily gone ...
      1. Marek Rozny
        +1
        12 February 2013 16: 18
        Quote: Atlon
        Yes, at least start making children's films !!!

        In-in. Very important point. Cinema has a gigantic effect on children. Unfortunately, I can’t recall a single decent normal educational Russian children's film or cartoon.

        Eeeh, where are the traditions of Soviet children's cinema? (
    2. 0
      12 February 2013 14: 16
      In general, who knows this nonsense promotes juvenile justice so actively in the names and names of organizations?
      Yes, the same deputies, working promoting the law? What government bodies are promoting this and who is managing them by name?
      The country must know its "heroes"!
      And then it turns out the majority is against (I think any parent is against), but the idea is moving at a good pace.
      There the President did not even say - nonsense, but expressed himself more than streamlined.
      Although it is clear that he can really stop any law, both by authority in the EP, and by law.
      1. 0
        12 February 2013 16: 04
        Gentlemen, teach the material part! Decisions on the preparation of a law are most often made in the relevant committees of the State Duma. If you are interested in knowing the names of the heroes, welcome to the DG website.
      2. 0
        13 February 2013 10: 03
        Listen to their last names: Altshuller, for example. More recently, on a round table on television they showed a representative of supporters of Yu.Yu., the surname is Georgian, the fatherland is Lazarevich ... Does it clarify?
  14. +5
    12 February 2013 11: 51
    Quote: Atlon
    When I was a child, I was raised quite strictly. Especially grandmothers. Parents were still more liberal. And here is my grandmother, the old pre-revolutionary school (from the "noble"). Therefore, in the summer at my grandmother's, it was hard for me ... No pampering like sweets, ice cream. Everything is according to the "norms". Breakfast, lunch and dinner are strictly on schedule. No snacks. Do you want to eat? Don't eat, next meal is on schedule. Candy (one, two) on weekends. Pocket money, dosed. Cinema and ice cream, twice a week. games with peers, in the afternoon, in the morning, housework and chores. TV only in the evening, and one children's film during the day. Honestly, it was difficult for me. And even offended. Now I understand that everything is correct!

    I absolutely agree with you and I was brought up in about the same way, Dad flogged and happened to flog specifically, and now I sometimes jokingly say to him, "Dad you missed me."
  15. SEM
    SEM
    +4
    12 February 2013 12: 14
    Russia doesn’t need any Western culture .... Forget about South Ossetia, leave it to those who invented it, let them live if they like, and we will live according to Orthodox laws as we have been living for 1000 years.
  16. +5
    12 February 2013 12: 21
    Juvenile justice is a business for children of clean water.
    The guardianship authorities have the right to inspect my family as a foster family at any time without warning. But on the other hand, I have the right not to let anyone else into my house without a court order, even the police. This is the right I will use.
    1. rubber_duck
      0
      12 February 2013 16: 16
      Quote: lewerlin53rus
      . Here I will use this right.


      This right is declared, however, it is far from always practicable. The peculiarity of the legislation under capitalism, however.
  17. +2
    12 February 2013 13: 34
    Does someone support? And who put forward the bill? BEAR !!!!

    I can’t wait to be removed from the country, not even from the government. I do not recall a single indisputably positive action on his part.
  18. Vladislav
    0
    12 February 2013 15: 20
    Good article, fat plus!
    We always try to quietly pass such laws, and the Public Chamber "and others like them"
    First they will.
    Then they wait until a desperate person left without children takes a gun and goes to educate tutors from the guardianship authorities, who took his children from him.
    Then they will count the corpses and begin to THINK and modify the law. Which was written off in Europe, mired in LGBT traditions ...

    After this article, I had a desire to associate with Udaltsov. Just then, to spit on our lawmakers!
  19. Avenger711
    0
    12 February 2013 15: 28
    No bureaucracy, no matter how useless it may be, once it has arisen, it will cling with all hands and feet to its existence. It will fit everywhere, but will not be responsible for anything.
  20. +2
    12 February 2013 15: 41
    Article large +. It is good that this topic is being raised more and more often. Among acquaintances, many did not even hear about the horrors of the juvenile justice system. A book by Natalya Zakharova, “Give Me Back Daughter”, is published on the Internet, which tells about the monstrous diabolical arbitrariness of the UJ system against the love of mother and daughter. Who has not read, I advise you to read http://www.kingdomoflove.org/natalia_zakharova_kniga.pdf. History causes a state of shock in all normal people. But the decision of the judges, even contrary to the laws, no one can cancel and there is no way within the law to counter the collective responsibility of the UJ system.
    Orthodox Russian psychologist Irina Yakovlevna Medvedeva said that the demographic situation among the indigenous population of Europe is much worse than in Russia. The reason Europeans do not want to give birth is not so much in crisis (and the problem of extinction was before the crisis), but in the unwillingness of normal families to be dependent on the arbitrariness of juvenile justice. Parents have the right only to give birth and support their children, but to raise them is not (this is a violation of the rights of the child). So such moral and spiritual freaks have grown up for which their rights are above all and the normal phenomenon of these legal people is gay marriage. It is clear who will grow up in the families of such perverts, and yet they will be given children from normal families ...
    Europe has chosen a path to self-destruction, but this is their choice. We are out of the way with them.
    And what kind of revival of Russia can the president of the GDP dream of if the laws supporting the introduction of a juvenile justice system are adopted in Russia?
    But in the first reading, United Russia supported this draft law.
    EP and others, do not be Judas!
  21. rubber_duck
    0
    12 February 2013 16: 13
    But I remember the reform of education, the Unified State Exam and others like it. ALL! Everyone was shouting, from teachers to academics, that it was SO impossible that we would lose the fucking education system. Where was Putin? Haven't you heard? Did you listen badly? Or did he consider himself smarter than everyone, including professionals? Throughout Serdyukov's activities in the Ministry of Defense EVERYTHING (!), From pre-conscript to general, and not only ours (!) Shouted that it was SO impossible, that we would deprive the Armed Forces of the fucking combat capability. Where was Putin? Haven't you heard? Did you listen badly? Etc. etc. Why am I, do not rejoice (or, more correctly, do not be fooled (?)) By the words of the "national leader." It has somehow become a tradition, when "from above" you hear: "What is the conversation about? We will not allow"! - it means it will be so. Anything that is "not allowed" will happen in the near future, whether it be an increase in utility tariffs, prices for railway tickets, the actual destruction of agriculture, etc. etc. In a word, chatting is not about turning bags. But if the bags are turned away from their native land, then these are not such different things ...
  22. +1
    12 February 2013 16: 30
    The laws of Juvenile Justice are killing the institution of the family. Its very definition and essence. I say this, say, as a witness to this disgrace in a very developed country across the ocean. Only among my friends 3 families were ravaged and 2 are still holding. The rights of the child in South Ossetia are a lie. The child is still weak to think about anything. Moreover, what is Yu and how it works. For him, organizations are thinking of knocking out financing from the state. Children can be taken away just like that ... because some lesbian aunt (this is normal, even better than a normal woman), in a serious smiling office, your family just didn’t like it. And if your child says at school that you scolded him for poor grades ... Goodbye to the child. Maybe you can get out, but your nerves and money will not stretch a little. This situation of pulling money is beneficial to all parties (conflict). And taking away and protecting, since protection is lawyers who protect for naturally crazy money (you understand your children). And you borrow money from a bank to pay for the services of these crooks. Yes, here the bank is very pleased ... Everyone is happy in general, except for the family itself, which is torn apart by the ruthless services of Yu. The adoption, even the fact of considering such a law, is a spit in the soul of religion, culture, and the history of our people. The Yu system is completely the idea of ​​a world government, for the creation of biorobot people, without feelings, love of conscience, and history. The pushing of this shameful idea is financed in Russia by the forces of the world government, mainly through very pompous and important ladies mired in the betrayal of the interests of their homeland.
  23. +1
    12 February 2013 16: 56
    Recently I read an article by O. Vereshchagin entitled "Euro Madness". About what is happening in Europe with children.
    samlib.ru/w/wereshagin_o_n/evro.shtml
    1. Van
      +1
      12 February 2013 18: 45
      Quote: Anphy
      Recently I read an article by O. Vereshchagin entitled "Euro Madness". About what is happening in Europe with children.

      In principle, it cannot be called any other way except as a great madness, and it sinks down to their "civilized" level, which is dearer to itself. wassat

      Along the way, the whole world is going crazy, and you need to do something about it. what
      1. 0
        12 February 2013 22: 24
        Quote: Wang
        РџРѕ С ... РѕРґСѓ, весь РјРёСЂ СЃС ... РѕРґРёС ‚СЃ СѓРјР °, Рё РЅР ° РґРѕ С З С‚Рѕ-то СЃ этим дел Р ° ть

        Do not be like the hostess from the movie "Mister X"!
        - "The whole city has gone crazy and I don't want to lag behind!"
        РЎРІРѕРёРј СѓРјРѕРј РЅР ° РґРѕ жить, своей историей, Р ° РЅРµ РЅР ° Р — Р ° РїР ° Рґ РіР »СЏРґРµС‚СЊ. РґР ° РµС ‰ Рµ Рё РѕР ± ъяснять, РїРѕС З З РµРјСѓ это РїР »РѕС ... Рѕ.
        1. Van
          0
          14 February 2013 16: 47
          This is just the point, how to explain to everyone that ...

          Quote: Egoza
          РЎРІРѕРёРј СѓРјРѕРј РЅР ° РґРѕ жить, своей историей, Р ° РЅРµ РЅР ° Р — Р ° РїР ° Рґ РіР »СЏРґРµС‚СЊ. РґР ° РµС ‰ Рµ Рё РѕР ± ъяснять, РїРѕС З З РµРјСѓ это РїР »РѕС ... Рѕ.
  24. 0
    12 February 2013 20: 13
    These laws symbolize a NEW STAGE in the destruction of Russia ... All simple methods have already been used, it remains to use deep and not very obvious, but no less destructive means. This is an attempt to destroy the culture of the people formed for centuries. And adjust it to "values" that are completely inappropriate for this people. And so the people are dying out, and with these laws this degeneration and extinction will only intensify and become more CONTROLLABLE. It is a shame and a pity that such a powerful and original country like Russia will simply cease to exist with the help of all these tools.
  25. 0
    12 February 2013 20: 36
    Quote: Egoza
    РєРѕСЂРѕС З З Рµ Р · Р ° РІСЃРµ это Рє РІР ° Рј РјРѕРіСѓС ‚прийти Рё Р · Р ° Р ± СЂР ° ть реР± енкР°.

    This is a good argument for talking with a child in order to counter this phenomenon. For greater clarity, take them to see how the children chew in the orphanage. laughing Questions will disappear by themselves.

    a little off topic, but: the site is overloaded with all sorts of nonsense, a lot of trackers, intrusive ads, overloaded functionality .. and not the slowest computer, the brakes are terrible .. in the end, instead of thinking about comments, you spend in agonizing waiting for the response of the systems. ((
  26. +2
    13 February 2013 07: 16
    Just let us remember everything: under no "good intentions", no gingerbreads and postulates, no rights to take children can be given to the guardianship authorities or anyone else !!!! If one of the parents deliberately mutilates a child, then he goes to prison. The state helps the other parent with the loss of the breadwinner. If both parents intentionally mutilate the child, then they both go to jail. In this case, the child is taken by relatives and the state helps them. If there is no one else, then yes, the child goes to an orphanage, tk. his parents are sitting in the zone. And when the parents are in the zone, then let the guardianship raise the question of depriving them of their rights or not! What if they get better after the zone ???
    In short, the process of deprivation of parental rights should be complicated to the maximum! Once again - there is no need here for examples of individual morons. There is a UK for them! And besides the Criminal Code, we don’t need anything and nobody else!
    And then here one comrade tearfully painted what kind of fools there are in the world and it means that you need to protect children from the fools and create laws. An example of American law immediately came to mind that you should not go to the theater with a lion. After all, someone went once they came up with such a law ?! And now we will start for the sake of 0.0000000001% of morons to write laws and create separate structures? Yes, and to allow because of this 0.000000001% hollow the snout in ALL of our families?
    To all these questions of mine, all the supporters of Yu are bashfully silent.
    1. 0
      13 February 2013 08: 54
      Let's just remember everything: NOT under any "good intentions", not for any price tag ...

      And do you think that the point here is "good intentions"?
  27. sdd23wesdg
    0
    13 February 2013 13: 37
    The base of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of all citizens of the Russian Federation, Ukraine and other CIS countries is on this http://zipurl.me/sng site and the main thing was done as if to search for lost relatives, but here is all the information about each of us: correspondence with friends, addresses, phones, place of work, and the worst thing is even my naked photo (though I don't know from where ...). In general, I was very scared - but there is such a function as "hide data" of course I used it and I advise everyone not to hesitate, you never know
  28. Dmitry T.
    0
    19 February 2013 17: 07
    First-hand information.
    A young woman turned to us, to the local parental committee, from whom a 3-month-old (!) Daughter was seized on a tip from her neighbors.
    This young mother was given a room in a dormitory, which the neighbors mentioned had a look at, which when she moved into this room told her literally: we won’t let you live here anyway. And soon after this, the organs of social. the guardians seized the child, placed him in the regional hospital, where he contracted some kind of infection and is now in intensive care.
    The young mother has no one who could intercede for her, as they say, neither relatives nor the police.
    Moreover, in the organs of social. guardians told her directly: they say, do not rock the boat, we have already found adoptive parents for your daughter.
    And this is characteristic: when a situation arises, what really would be better for a child to be taken away from an alcoholic mother, for example, social organs. custody is not available, and when everything is fine, BUT there is no one to stand up for a single mother, then they are right there.
    This I personally encountered, I repeat.

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