Spanish media: the effect of the transfer of Leopard tanks to the Ukrainian Armed Forces is nullified by the dominance of the Russian Aerospace Forces

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Spanish media: the effect of the transfer of Leopard tanks to the Ukrainian Armed Forces is nullified by the dominance of the Russian Aerospace Forces

The effect of the transfer of the German Armed Forces tanks Leopard has been nullified by the dominance of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the air. The benefit of this technology for the Kyiv regime is actually approaching zero.

This statement was made to journalists of the Spanish newspaper El Pais by a source who, according to him, acts at the front in the interests of Ukrainian intelligence.



Leopard's usefulness at the front is now zero

- said this character, who asked to call himself “Phoenix” and stated that he works for Ukrainian intelligence and the high command on the “Pokrovsky Front”.

Since “Pokrovsk” is the Ukrainian name for Krasnoarmeysk in the DPR, it can be assumed that it is related to one of the Ukrainian units stationed in the city or its environs.

I have spoken to thousands of soldiers on this front and my conclusion is that NATO military theory is useless unless combined with Soviet

- the interlocutor told European journalists.

Representatives of the Spanish media also spoke with some of the servicemen of the 47th mechanized brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. During these conversations, they came to the conclusion that on the front line there is now a significant advantage of the Russian army over the Ukrainian Armed Forces. In particular, Ukrainian troops are inferior to the Russians in terms of the number of infantry fighting vehicles and the number of personnel.

Earlier, in the American magazine The National Interest, one of the journalists drew attention to the large amount of Western equipment destroyed at the fronts by the Russian military. In this regard, he called Ukraine a “tank graveyard.”
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  1. -5
    April 22 2024 18: 39
    MAYBE IT'S TIME TO GIVE IT IN THE ASS
    1. 0
      April 22 2024 18: 44
      In the West, your words may be misinterpreted. And it’s too late. Leopard 2A6 was captured. The Leopard 2A6 evacuated by Russian soldiers is a fairly modern version of German tanks. For example, in the same Bundeswehr they are considered the most widespread, and the arrival of such a model can be considered a rather painful blow for the German military and the companies involved in the production of this machine. So, The 120-mm L55 smoothbore gun installed on it is currently considered the most advanced of those mass-produced in the West. In addition to the Leopard 2 family of cars, its version is planned to be used on the new British Challenger 3. The possibility of installation on other NATO tanks was also studied.
      1. -2
        April 22 2024 20: 33
        They were going to install 155mm on the LeClerc in response to the appearance of the Armata. But Armata never appeared.
        And I think the idea of ​​installing a 152-155 mm smoothbore is justified in the current conditions
        1. +1
          April 22 2024 21: 00
          Well, how come it didn’t appear? Now it has been tested in the SVO and the identified shortcomings are being corrected. It’s just that at the moment, taking into account the SVO, priority is given to cheaper and, as a result, massively available tanks. It’s just that the T-14 is now being added protection against drones and electronic warfare But the T-14 tank itself exists. You speak as if it does not exist.
          1. -3
            April 22 2024 21: 02
            Appeared, this is when he goes in echelons to the "NWO" zone, and does not actually participate in the tests
            1. +2
              April 22 2024 21: 06
              I told you why the T-14 doesn’t come in trains. There aren’t many tankers trained on the T-14, and the price is not conducive to mass production, and it’s not even the price, but the ability to produce the T-14 in large quantities here and now, especially in the conditions of the Northern Military District .For here and now, so that it is possible to quickly train and crews, the T-90M, T-80BVM, T-72BM3 are more suitable, but this will not always be the case. The future lies with the T-14 Armata. Producing a lot of tanks here and now is about T-90M, T-80BVM, T-72BM3.
              1. -3
                April 22 2024 21: 09
                It is also not clear why invest effort and limited funds into restoring the production of T-80BVM, when it is tedious to increase the production of 90 and 72.
                No logic
                1. +1
                  April 22 2024 21: 15
                  Because at the moment there is no technical possibility to produce 1500 new T-90M per year. If there were such an opportunity, no one would bother with modernizing the T-80BVM, T-72BM3 and would not think about producing a new version of the T-80 from scratch when the tanks which can be upgraded to the level of T-80BVM, T-72BM3, the warehouses will run out. We need a lot of tanks, here and now, that’s why they’re taking on all the tanks at once, whichever ones they can take on, since they just need a lot of them.
                  1. -2
                    April 22 2024 21: 19
                    The question is not about increasing production, but rather about restoring the lost production of the 80s. There is no time, money or energy for this now.
                    Reactivation of the T-80 is different. This is not production from scratch. And from the Moscow Region we are talking about production from scratch.
                    The article is right there. "Production of T-80 tanks from scratch: a very interesting statement"
                    1. +1
                      April 22 2024 21: 26
                      The question is not about increasing production, but rather about restoring the lost production of the 80s. There is no time, money or energy for this now.


                      Well, the warehouses will run out of tanks for modernization, and then what?Will we really have any other options other than increasing production of new T-90Ms and starting production of a new version of the T-80 from scratch?Well, the chassis for the same TOS-1/2, produced from scratch, if I understand correctly, is taken from the T-80, which means it is technically possible to start producing the T-80 after some time. Again, new engines are installed on the modernized T-80BVM GTD-1250. There is already something to dance about.
                2. Qas
                  0
                  April 24 2024 12: 51
                  You are not a tanker if you ask such questions. T72 and T80 are only similar in appearance, in fact they are different. And the most important difference: the engine (power density). T80 is much more dynamic and quieter. In modern conditions this is important.
  2. 0
    April 22 2024 18: 41
    The benefit of this technology for the Kyiv regime is actually approaching zero.

    Well, yes... If someone offered us such tanks (China, for example), we would definitely refuse out of a sense of pride and self-esteem... laughing They just don’t offer... SVO_lochi!!! am
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  4. 0
    April 22 2024 18: 42
    In the West, this is common - among them it is the norm to punch each other in the seat... Don’t worry about them.
  5. +11
    April 22 2024 18: 44
    Leopard's usefulness at the front is now zero

    What does a photo of a damaged BMP-3 have to do with the topic of the article? Or, sorry, is this a Leopard, according to the authors?
    1. +2
      April 22 2024 20: 01
      These are the editors of a military website, ignorant of military equipment...they also experienced dissonance.
    2. 0
      April 22 2024 21: 35
      Quote from: nik-mazur
      What does a photo of a damaged BMP-3 have to do with the topic of the article?

      Tongue removed
  6. +1
    April 22 2024 18: 45
    And in the complete absence, we have VKS, what effect did these woodpeckers expect from the Leopards? - will they reel everyone onto the tracks and take Moscow? tongue
    1. 0
      April 22 2024 18: 47
      The Kakelyas promised to drive out the “damned Muscovites” (c) to us beyond the Urals.... laughing
  7. 0
    April 22 2024 18: 48
    They still have Leopard and Abrams tanks for sale to our military, I advise you not to neglect this opportunity, otherwise, on the battlefield, the price of the tank will be equal to the price of the ammunition that destroyed the tank wassat
    1. -1
      April 22 2024 18: 49
      Well, maybe ours will pay 500 grand if they’re on the move. So as not to drag the BREM.... laughing Otherwise, mess around...
  8. +3
    April 22 2024 18: 50
    Quote from: nik-mazur
    What does a photo of a damaged BMP-3 have to do with the topic of the article? Or, sorry, is this a Leopard, according to the authors?

    I also cut out the photo of the eyes...there are two options: the “defective designer” syndrome or on purpose.
    1. +1
      April 22 2024 18: 54
      I’m no longer even surprised by such blunders...... The designers can get away with it - like ours abandoned the half-knocked one, the kakels rose on their knees, ours again knocked out the kakels..... They will get away with it.

      PS I won’t even remind you that sometimes the designers post on May 9 - Hans instead of our soldiers, and Tigers instead of our 34s, ............
    2. 0
      April 22 2024 19: 05
      Quote: Skobaristan
      "defective designer" syndrome or specifically

      Judging by the maps, the first is much more likely.
    3. 0
      April 22 2024 20: 13
      I think this is the picture for the last sentence:
      In this regard, he called Ukraine a “tank graveyard.”
  9. +4
    April 22 2024 18: 58
    Quote: Nexcom
    PS I won’t even remind you that sometimes the designers post on May 9 - Hans instead of our soldiers, and Tigers instead of our 34s,

    You can somehow forgive the little designers for not knowing the hardware... But on the specialized website it already makes you think...
    1. +1
      April 22 2024 19: 01
      It’s impossible to argue with you on this. I agree 100%.
  10. -1
    April 22 2024 19: 23
    Spanish media: the effect of the transfer of Leopard tanks to the Ukrainian Armed Forces is nullified by the dominance of the Russian Aerospace Forces
    . Come on...
    The VKS is a force, but our main strength is our warriors, our great people!!!
    No one can win, ever!
  11. +1
    April 22 2024 19: 33
    Quote from: nik-mazur
    What does a photo of a damaged BMP-3 have to do with the topic of the article?

    There are a lot of similar mistakes at VO.
  12. -1
    April 22 2024 19: 39
    Oh, how bad they are. They have drones, ATGMs, grenade launchers and everything else. They don’t fight correctly, but the “leopards” and “abrashki” tanks are generally good. At least that's what the manufacturers say. You just have to fight correctly, but the Russians don’t follow the rules. According to the rules, they have to go into battle with axes and spears, but you see what they are up to! They have piled up various weapons against the crap weapons and are burning both equipment and crews in vain. Ah ah ah.
  13. BAI
    -1
    April 22 2024 19: 42
    I was looking for a photo of a damaged BMP-3, where it was taken. I went to the English site. They claim that our losses are more than 15 units of armored vehicles and give them individually. There is even a T000, which was in a single copy (there was an article about it here).
    So understand - they’re lying or they’re not lying?
    1. 0
      April 22 2024 20: 14
      Quote: BAI
      I went to the English website. They claim that our losses are more than 15 units of armored vehicles... So understand - they are lying, they are not lying

      What doubts can there be - can gentlemen lie?
      If anything, we only have 14 tanks.
      1. +1
        April 22 2024 20: 36
        But there are losses, and big ones. 15 thousand tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers - this, of course, is nonsense.
        But errors in air defense planning, when equipment was simply abandoned, “redeployments” + the use of armored vehicles with dominance of 404 FPV drones cause significant damage.
        I'm not sure whether non-external capacity can cover these losses. It’s good that there are a lot of things in conservation. BUT it is not limitless
  14. 0
    April 22 2024 20: 29
    Judging by the photo, was the article written in Kyiv?
  15. 0
    April 23 2024 00: 47
    I have spoken to thousands of soldiers on this front and my conclusion is that NATO military theory is useless unless combined with Soviet

    - the interlocutor told European journalists.

    A very strange expert collecting information from thousands of soldiers. Or is every Ukrainian soldier a certified expert? I sometimes watch Ukrainian public pages. Ukrainian soldiers always repeat to journalists in a disciplined manner what they are talking about in Kyiv. When in Kyiv they talked about a tank deal and demanded tanks from NATO, the Ukrainian soldiers disciplinedly sang about the wonderful Leopards. When Zelensky demanded planes, the soldiers disciplinedly trumpeted air superiority. Currently, the favorite topic among ukrov is air defense. The favorite theme of blood of all stripes is the prodigy that they will receive and then everything will change.