Kalinowski as the banner of Polish revenge in Belarus

2013, barely begun, immediately brought a new aggravation of Russophobic sentiment in Poland and in neighboring Lithuania and Belarus. As an occasion, we used two coinciding and directly related to each other historical dates - the 150th anniversary of the 1863 anti-Russian uprising in Poland and the 175th anniversary of the birth of one of the active participants and leaders of the Polish rebellion Vincent Konstantin Kalinowski ...

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The reform of 1861 of the year, which liberated the peasants of the Russian Empire from serfdom, was half-hearted, which did not suit either the landlords or the peasants. At the same time, unrest began on the outskirts of the empire. Particularly disturbing was the situation in the west - in the Polish, Lithuanian, Ukrainian and Belarusian lands. The Polish nobility, who had recovered their spirit, considered that the opportune moment had arrived and began to prepare an uprising, hoping with the help of England and France to restore the Commonwealth within the boundaries of 1792 of the year. The situation in 1863 in the west of the Russian Empire was difficult. In the churches there were prayers calling for a rebellion. In Warsaw, Russian residents, as well as soldiers and officers were insulted and stoned. Burned books in Russian and German. In Italy and Austria (Galicia), camps were set up to train the rebels. The uprising coordinating centers were located in London and in Paris.

The 1863 outbreak in January in Warsaw and the Kingdom of Poland insurgency quickly spread to the Belarusian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian and Latvian territories. The rebels were distinguished by extreme cruelty - they killed Russian officials, soldiers and officers, disfigured their bodies with torture, cut off their ears and noses, ripped off their stomachs, pierced their eyes. Orthodox monasteries and temples were plundered and burned, and monks and priests were abused. The atrocities were committed against the peasants - as the Belarusian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian, Latvian, and to their Polish. They killed for disobedience and unwillingness to participate in the uprising not only of male peasants, but also of women and even children. From among the rebels, special executioners were appointed for these massacres.

In Vilna, one of the leaders of the uprising was Vincent Konstantin Kalinovsky. He never spoke about Belarusians at all and would probably be very puzzled if he found out that later Belarusian historians would call him a diminutive colloquial name Kastus. True, he wrote several proclamations on local Belarusian dialects, but all these papers are imbued with the ideas of restoring the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, and they repeat, like a spell, “God, save Poland!” Kalinowski repeated: “Proper faith is Uniatism, and Orthodoxy - faith of the dog, schism, which the Russian authorities have imposed on them by force. ” He never hid his hatred of everything Russian. Before his death in 1864, Kalinowski managed to deliver to freedom the “Letter from under the gallows”, in which he wrote the following: “Only then, people, will you live happily when there is no Moskal over you”.

The 1863 uprising of the year was crushed. The hopes of the insurgent nobility for an ambulance support of England and France did not materialize either: they limited themselves to formidable notes and the subsequent protection of the rights of the defeated nobility.

In Poland, the 150 anniversary of the 1863 uprising of the year is now of particular importance. Nobody mentions the Polish peasants tortured and killed at the same time and the atrocities committed against them. Celebrations on the anniversary of the 1863 uprising of the year were opened on January 16, 2013, in the Presidential Palace in Warsaw, with the direct participation of the President of Poland Bronislav Komorowski. And the jubilee events themselves will be held during the year with the participation of the Polish Sejm, the Senate, the Ministry of Defense and many public organizations. Concerts, scientific conferences, openings, exhibitions, commemorative events at the burial sites of the rebels and much more are planned. An 22 January 2013 event has already been held at Powazki Military Cemetery in Warsaw, listing the names of the dead insurgents in the presence of B. Komorowski in the manner of reading the victims of the 11 September 2001 attack in New York. Two coins were issued in denominations of 2 and 10 zlotys. Do not forget about the Belarusian refugees - in the near future in Poland with the participation of the Belarusians will be held a ski raid "In places Kalinowski."

Poles demonstrated their activity outside of Poland. So, on 22 on January 2013, the Polish ambassador to Belarus, Leszek Sharepka, laid flowers at the monument to R. Taurgut and K. Kalinovsky in Svisloch. The event was attended by representatives of the Belarusian opposition. In the message of the Polish embassy regarding the conduct of this action, it was said: “The embassy of Poland in Minsk informed the Belarusian authorities about the festivities and invited them to take part in the celebration of the 150 anniversary of the Uprising (as in the original - A.P.) 1863-1864, therefore that a common history should unite, and not divide, neighboring nations. ” The fact that this "association" is directed, first of all, against the union state of Belarus - Russia, is silent in the message of the embassy.

In Belarus now is a difficult social and ideological situation. Back in 1993, before AGLukashenko came to power, a special stamp was issued, and 2 in February 2013 (on Kalinowski’s birthday) a solemn cancellation of a new stamp dedicated to Kastus Kalinouski was held at Belpochtampta. Through the Ministry of Education in schools held dictations on the "Letter from under the gallows" K. Kalinowski. These initiatives were welcomed by the Belarusian opposition. In addition, the nationalists formed an organizing committee for the celebration of two “anniversaries”, which was headed by former presidential candidates and implacable opponents of A. Lukashenko - A. Milinkevich and V. Neklyaev. Alyaksandr Milinkevich recently added heat, saying: “In general, the country's leadership does not know how Moscow will react to the celebrations, but will the revolution explode on the 150 anniversary of the uprising?”

The organizers, as always, are counting on foreign aid, primarily Polish. They are going to install the crosses at the graves of Polish insurgents, implement scientific and educational programs, conferences, historical reconstructions, music festivals and even create a rock opera about Kalinowski. All this is supposed to be done non-stop for two years in a row. February 1 has already hosted the first such event at the BNF headquarters, during which postcards were signed to “the current rebels” (to the few prisoners against Lukashenko’s opponents).

And what about the official Belarusian authorities? It feels like they don't know how to react. Meanwhile, a number of serious historians and public figures, concerned about the current escalation of Russophobia and the pollinating of public life in Belarus, held a scientific conference “Polish gentry uprising of the year 1863. A look at the events after 150 years ", in which the chief editor of the Belarusian Thought journal V.Gigin bluntly said:" There was a great terror ... we are talking about 128 insurgents who were hanged by Ant, but we don’t know that hundreds, if not the victims ... they were absolutely wild terrorist attacks. "

President Lukashenko has repeatedly spoken about Poland’s desire to regain domination, if not over all, then at least over Western Belorussia. There are supporters of the Polish revenge in Belarus itself. The latest confirmation of the revanchist aspirations of Poland, about which A. Lukashenko speaks, was a defiant concert of Polish groups Karat Napalm Grupa, Zjednoczony Ursynów and Irydion, held on January 26 2013 in Vilnius in the House of Polish Culture. Despite requests from the Union of Poles in Lithuania to “not politicize the concert,” the hip-hop group Zjednoczony Ursynów sang that “in the future Vilnius, Lviv and Grodno will be Polish, and not strangers” ...

It seems that in the part of the former Russian Empire, where 150 years ago flared up the flames of the Polish insurgency, serious events are brewing again ...

Comments

[Vadivak]

The correct faith is Uniatism, and Orthodoxy is the faith of a dog, a schism, which the Russian authorities imposed by force. ”


Not only is the Pole, he is also stupid

[strannik595]

indefatigable Leliki-Boliki flew through and the same fate awaits diehard fans of castus

[Sakhalininsk]

you more than accurately noticed ... they have poor fellows if you read that they "pshek and" write stupidity, moronism and other schizophrenias should at the state level acquire the status of a nationwide epidemic and a nationwide disaster.

[AlexxNik]

Quote: Vadivak

Not only is the Pole, he is also stupid

in tolerant America, these are synonymous words, and Churchill came to this conclusion in the end

[older]

Quote: Vadivak

Not only is the Pole, he is also stupid

I’ll tell you what heroes your people have and I’ll tell you what kind of people ... And the questions of faith have divorced us from Poland and Lithuania in ancient times

[Neringa285]

Quite right ... Uniatism was adopted at the beginning of the 15th century .. even before Grunwald, when the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth owned vast territories including Smolensk and Grodno, and Vilna .... the insidiousness of the Poles has been known for a long time. But as for the heroes ... Marshal Konstantin Rokossovsky was a Pole, and in 1949 Polish President Boleslav Bierut turned to JV Stalin with a request to send a Pole KK Rokossovsky to Poland to serve as Minister of National Defense. Despite his long residence in Russia, Rokossovsky remained Pole in manner and speech, which ensured the favor of the majority of Poles. Of course, there were other "heroes" ... for example Oginsky, whose polonaise we taught at a music school without fail, and he hated Russians and everything Russian ... something like that. Not everything is clear. In Kaliningrad, on the one hand, Poland, and on the other, Lithuania ... they are afraid of us ... very much)))) Once the base commander in Baltiysk said that, of course, he in no way wants to diminish the combat readiness of the armed forces of border countries, but .... under certain circumstances, we will drive them into the Middle Ages without leaving the piers. I am not quoting exactly, because almost 5 years have passed)

[Nagaibak]

Neringa285 "But as for the heroes ... Marshal Konstantin Rokossovsky was a Pole"
He was a half-breed his mother Antonina Ovsyannikova-Russian or Belarusian as you like. Dad is a Pole.
General Denikin A.I. had a Russian father and mother, a Polish girl who spoke Russian very poorly. He writes interestingly about Poles in his memoirs.

[don.kryyuger]

: lPoles are the most rotten nation in Europe, even disgusting to write for them. Prostitutes.

[redwolf_13]

Even Churchill spoke of Poland as nothing more than "THE HYENA of EUROPE". Psheki have always been with those with whom it was profitable, but at the same time they hated the Slavs with wild pathology.

[starshina78]

Let the Poles, Lithuanians, Latvians, and others who forgive Russia and Orthodoxy forgive me, but who would they be without Russia? Poland would be sold to someone who buys more expensive, the rest as well. Russia enlightened these countries, and so far so far half of the population was illiterate. In Tsarist Russia, all these countries were in a privileged position, unlike all of Russia. In short - one word political prostitutes!

[neri73-r]

"Poles are the hyena of Europe" W. Churchill (c) Neither add nor subtract !!! The masters know the true value of their servants.

[avt]

The Poles are not appeasing with their "Promethean" movement. Lavrenty did not calm down all of them, the last ones remained. The unfinished forest is regrowing.

[strannik595]

indefatigable Leliki-Boliki flew by and a similar fate awaits diehard castus fans

[older]

Quote: avt

Poles are not appeased with their "Promethean" movement

The restrained pride of a nation that could not become great, although it had all the prerequisites ...

[sergeybulkin]

In Belarus, now a difficult social and ideological situation
All this is nonsense! I will never believe that ordinary Belarusians have any kind of hostility towards the Russians! They are the same Russian, only white ....

[Vadivak]

Quote: sergeybulkin

I will never believe that ordinary Belarusians have any kind of hostility towards the Russians!

This is some kind of a sunny nation, here they can be generally called the chosen ones without any tricks.

[older]

Quote: Vadivak

This is some kind of a sunny nation, here they can be generally called the chosen ones without any tricks.

It’s just that people live, don’t interfere with others, but they don’t give themselves insult ... But they look at the experiments of perestroika from the side and smile ...

[boots]

Quote: sergeybulkin

All this is nonsense! I will never believe that ordinary Belarusians have any kind of hostility towards the Russians! They are the same Russian, only white ..

And you’re doing it right, and if someone says that this is not so, you can safely spit in his face!

[Natalia]

- It seems that in that part of the former Russian Empire, where the flames of the Polish rebellion flared 150 years ago, serious events are brewing again ... -

All these are miserable attempts, miserable nonhumans .... who think that they once had a superpower (not when it wasn’t, but after a couple of dozen years we won’t remember what it was called).
With Poles in Russia, they always acted simply, loaded into the cannon and kaaaaaak ........ Only now we have the guns better, the enemy’s giblets will fly much faster and further .....

[older]

What a bloodthirsty lady. Why ammunition to spend? They already almost all went to work .. Here and let them ride ... Gaster ...

[Natalia]

Quote: older

What a bloodthirsty lady. Why ammunition to spend? They already almost all went to work .. Here and let them ride ... Gaster ...

Well, by the way, if you turn to history, so to speak ..... here ..)))

[AlexxNik]

serious events are brewing again

but nothing will ripen, unless, of course, the Belarusians decide that the Poles will bring them as equals to Geyropu. Poles there themselves in the role of idiots, and even about the Belarusians and do not have to talk, they will be cleaned up in arrogant Poland. So it remains "clear-minded" to drool over the globe of Poland in 1792 and smear the door handles with shit, in the hope of attracting the attention of the "general secuers"

[anchonsha]

The dog barks, the caravan goes on. Well, nostalgia eats up individual Poles, Bandera about the past greatness of Poland. But the common people hated so arrogant Poles ... Therefore, Poland ceased to exist as a great one, because serfdom was easier tolerated than Polish rule.

[pa_nik]

Sad of all this two-faced bestiality ... They treat them like people, but they ... But they are friends with the Germans .. But the Germans at one time stomping across Europe did not leave anyone behind. Everyone is at the root. The conclusion about understanding only strength and blood suggests itself. Well then ... let's see Not long left. You put on your head some kind of misfortune, or better die from your own poison. Your black karma can be seen from afar .. Nezrya ended up on ropes, but on the walls there was a lot of his life.

[older]

Quote: pa_nik

And the Germans at one time stomping across Europe did not leave anyone behind. Everyone is at the root. The conclusion about understanding exclusively strength and blood suggests itself

Just a note ... The largest number of concentration camps were on the territory of Poland and the locals voluntarily worked for them .. Not the SS men, as we are told, namely the local ones, and it’s voluntary ....

[hrych]

Well, that the Poles turned into Russophobia, of course the merit of the Vatican. But here is the news that Pope Benedict 16 was about to resign, and according to the prophecy of St. Malachi after him will be Peter Roman, in which Catholicism will be destroyed. So let's check St. Malachi for miracles, look at the new papal elections.

[Alexander Petrovich]

Islam is better than Catholicism.

[hrych]

So, Petrovich will shorten the pussy for you and make the booby Akbar shout.

[Alexander Petrovich]

under which Catholicism will be destroyed -
Islam is better than Catholicism - (will be destroyed) - I apologize, I did not write it correctly.

[hrych]

Well, this is another matter, although we are obliged to the Vatican to spread Islam in the world, because The Caliphate and the Ottoman Empire were formed on the lands of the Eastern Roman Empire, which fell through intrigues, arson of Constantinople, and the treacherous destruction of the Metropolis by the Crestos, where the main merit of the Vatican. And now, surprising or not, the support of Wahhabis by Western democracies. Where the Vatican is there ethnic brothers slaughter each other Serbs-Croats, Bandera-Russians, Poles-Russians, etc. And when Orthodox Serbs fight the Islamic cannibals by Albanians, the Vatican supports the cannibals. The Vatican stands in the way of uniting the white race (especially when it united with the Freemasons) and it must be destroyed.

[Alexander Petrovich]

For that fought for it and ran. The West will soon become Islamic - the scenario of the Roman Empire is repeated. All spilled over, no one wants to work, to serve in the army too, the number of migrating barbarians - Muslims is increasing, soon they will ... be here. Only the Eastern white civilization will remain - and that will be us.

[Vadivak]

Quote: hrych

Well, that the Poles turned into Russophobia, of course the merit of the Vatican.

Unequivocally

Quote: hrych

and according to the prophecy of sv. Malachi

Authenticity disputed, etozh Vatican

[Manager]

Quote: hrych

Peter Rimsky

I won’t be surprised if they choose a black man because of the political correspondence of a homosexual.

[sergeybulkin]

Gee ... The Vatican always disputes everything. And always misinterprets everything for their own benefit, their dirty international intrigues are known to everyone. For example:
The representative of the Catholic Church said that the evolutionary theory of Charles Darwin does not contradict the biblical version of the creation of the world and living organisms. The words of the head of the papal council for culture of Archbishop Gianfranco Ravasi (Gianfranco Ravasi) quoted the British newspaper The Times.

The archbishop clarified that evolutionary ideas can be found in the texts of Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine. "In fact, when we talk about evolution, we are talking about the world as it was created by God," added Ravazi.
February 11 2009

[cdrt]

So that the Poles with their ambition to turn Russophobes do not need any Vatican.
They had an Empire, one of Europe's most vibrant at the time.
They themselves repelled the Russian population of their Empire, created the conditions themselves so that the Russian lands of their empire preferred Muscovy. When Muscovy, as a result of the unification of the main Russian lands, became Russia, brains self-criticism did not have enough to understand that this is the result of their own actions (one I.Vishnevetsky as an example of international relations is worth it).
As a result of natural growth, RI simply destroyed them.
They cannot accept that the Poles destroyed their Empire with their own hands. So someone is to blame. Who! Well, it is clear that Russians, Germans, Austrians, in short, all the neighbors.
The Vatican is just the center of the Catholic world, it was both when the ON with Poland wanted to unite, and when the Speech began to disintegrate.
Something like this.

[hrych]

This is not entirely true, the state, according to the laws of sociology, rests on the apparatus of violence, which is provided by the caste of warriors in the form of the army and the police and, most importantly, the ideology provided by the caste of priests. All laws, etc., are adopted by the caste of priests, since they are more educated and smarter and, if necessary, will simply poison the unwanted king. So in Poland the Jesuits are still the priestly caste, i.e. Poland is directly ruled by the Vatican. And the Pole Pope Wojtyla directly controlled all sorts of Solidarity and so on, which can be confirmed by the publications of the KGB archives.

[wbigfire]

There were other times, other customs. One cannot approach those events from the standpoint of today's morality and "universal" values. There were enough casualties and wrongdoing on both sides. As most often happened on the Belarusian land, the interests of Poland and Russia crossed with all the ensuing consequences. As usual, there were supporters of both among the Belarusians. The proportion was important. If there were more for Poland, we would have been Poles for a long time. But a sober mind won out, as a result we are with Russia to this day. The bad news is that there are fewer and fewer adherents of close friendship with her. There is a lot of negativity in the Russian media about the situation in it. I have not seen a report on a single Russian channel that something good has been built, launched, repaired and restored in Russia. But it is. The country is coming to life. Even on this forum it is indirectly visible. And history is written every time in a new way to please the demands of the day. So K. Kalinovsky is evaluated this way and that. And a man simply fought for the interests of his class with the means available at that time. That's all the banner.

[IRBIS]

"The centers coordinating the uprising were in London and Paris."
The ears of the current "benefactors" have not changed their location until now.

"The uprising of 1863 was defeated."
Here is the key phrase! As a science for the future and as a warning to all Poles and those who have joined them !!

"... in the near future in Poland with the participation of Belarusians a ski raid" In the places of Kalinovsky "will be held."
I propose to slightly extend the route of the "raid" to the place where this guy was hanged, and then turn to Smolensk. Just in case...

[lechatormosis]

Correctly SUVOROV smashed the Psheks - once they were not our friends.
The struggle of the Poles with RUSSIA was not much different from what we SEE NOW in SYRIA.
The same unbridled cruelty and hatred of everything Russian has remained in the blood of the Poles so far.

[Manager]

Quote: lehatormoz

The same unbridled cruelty and hatred of everything Russian has remained in the blood of the Poles so far.

Remember the soccer championship. How are these (I apologize) you ... b ... dki our fans beat. And with both women and children. And the police didn’t bother them much. Here you have a direct indicator of their blue blood.

[IRBIS]

A little patience! Soon their blood will become truly "blue", as in the entire European Union! In essence, they are already n ... s, it remains only to correspond with the form, which, judging by the mood in Europe, is not far off.

[uladzimir.surko]

From this article I understood one thing when the Poles took Berlin, the Russians helped them Trochs "

[crambol]

Lord Well, how much they love and adore us all over the world! Well, really ready to strangle in his arms!

[kamis51]

If the opposition comes to power in Belarus, the country will be plundered in the same way as Russia in the 90s

[boots]

Quote: kamis51

If the opposition comes to power in Belarus, the country will be plundered in the same way as Russia in the 90s

And you saw our opposition. Some incomprehensible uncles can’t connect two words. Their whole program comes down to a bang, a crash, a break-abroad will help us. So there are no chances.

[andrei332809]

I can understand the philistine's craving for "independence", but I do not understand why those who sit in london-paris and receive money from those who, on the contrary, want to "lasso" them, stand up for it. and I don’t feel guilty about my Country. Maybe wrong, but I don’t feel that’s it.

[vladsolo56]

A normal person is studying history, someone not to repeat mistakes, someone just to know how their ancestors lived, only the Poles constantly raise history as a political sword. wave to them where necessary and where not necessary. This behavior usually leads to bruising. But it’s not for nothing that they say a bad head;

[AK-47]

Author Alexey Polozov

In Belarus, Catholics and Orthodox are 50 to 50, and Catholics are the same Poles, in the country there is no national or religious discord between them.
These are the Lukashists, who have nothing to do with Belarus, and they are trying to impose this discord. Smack on Polozov and company.

It’s better to drink vodka in small piles than to throw shit with a big shovel.

[eagle owl]

No, not like that. Look at the official data. For example, the materials of the conference "Ethnosocial and confessional processes in modern society" in Grodno 2012 Here are the data: Orthodox 80%; Roman Catholic 10% Protestant 2% the other 8%. The difference between us is significant. I myself live in Grodno, I know the situation from the inside.

[Lopatov]

As far as I heard, places of worship are 50 to 50.

Has the "Museum of Religion" been thrown out of the premises yet?

[AK-47]

Quote: Uhu

See official data ... I know the situation from the inside.

And you ask your work colleagues, not necessarily believers, when they celebrate Easter, I assure you the result will not match the official data.

[eagle owl]

Coincide. I assure you.

[Lopatov]

Let's face it without patriotic cries. Belarus is a problem country for Russia.

Here is the story: there is a lot of blood and injustice between Russians and Belarusians, and the fact that, unlike Ukrainians, Belarusians do not yell about it at every Russian forum does not mean that the problem is absent as such.

The second is a rather tough economic policy pursued by the Russian big business in relation to Belarus. With the full support of the Russian authorities. If it seems to some that the Belarusians are unanimously approving the actions of the Union of Dairy Enterprises, Gazprom and other children with raking handles, then he is very mistaken.

The third is Lukashenko himself. He not only crushed under himself all the pro-Russian forces in the country (the opposition remained only pro-European there), but also considered all attempts at rapprochement between the countries to be a threat to his power. And actively counteracts this.

The fourth is the Poles. They really, together with the Lithuanians, are actively involved in Belarus. Unlike Russia. We decided that "Belarusians are brothers, and therefore nothing can be done." This is an extremely erroneous and dangerous opinion.

That's all that I wanted to write.

[Vadivak]

Quote: Spade

Residually tough economic policy pursued by Russian large business

Does it have Russians or Belarusians?

[Lopatov]

Is it all the same? After all, they act on behalf of the Russian state, that is, in essence, on our behalf. Do not give up responsibility.

[eagle owl]

Orthodox Belarusians are brothers. Catholics Belarusians (listen to Westerners) do not identify themselves with Slavic-Byzantine civilization.

[Lopatov]

Come on ... This is not particularly noticeable.

[Nagaibak]

Lopatov "There is history: there is a lot of blood and injustice between Russians and Belarusians"
Give an example please !!!
Only about Kalinovsky is not necessary. He’s a zigzag.

[Lopatov]

And you need it?

[Nagaibak]

If you do not know, then do not write horseradish. Simply put. I asked you and you did not answer. So you don’t know.

[Saraev]

Quote: Uhu

Orthodox Belarusians are brothers. Catholics Belarusians (listen to Westerners) do not identify themselves with Slavic-Byzantine civilization.

I see how rumbled in the morning (while Old Man was asleep) thousands of Belarusians in your sect!
And there besides sermons what? Zilch or Bunch! You will soon have nothing to eat with such a policy!
I recommend not to drive a wave, but to put your lips on "our thick gas pipe"!

[Lopatov]

Write nonsense.

[eagle owl]

Are you her master? A thick pipe?

[Charon]

I see no reason for all of us not to celebrate the anniversary of the successful suppression of the uprising.

[Watchman]

The Poles themselves are to blame for their troubles, but it is easier to blame "evil" Russia than to understand their mistakes. Now they idolize Europe, which abandoned them in 39 to fend for themselves, but they hate us, who saved them from fascism, rebuilt their country after the war, and fed them until the collapse of the USSR.

[deman73]

As the Pshek were children, they remained and their ambition is like that of adults

[seeman72]

Let the yapping. From their own bile, they will die. We should let the snot out.

[shurup]

At least in some ways, present-day Poland is in solidarity with the CPSU. That Kalinovsky is a hero of the national liberation movement.
Do Polish politicians even notice this?

[воронов]

Poles are always hostile to Russia

[demandxy]

Quote: Uhu

Orthodox Belarusians are brothers. Catholics Belarusians (listen to Westerners) do not identify themselves with Slavic-Byzantine civilization.

Would you go my friend to hell! I am Belarus, I am Catholic, I am Slavic, and I am for Belarus joining Russia as we are brothers and we must live in the same country! it doesn’t matter whether we are Catholics or we are Orthodox Christians !!! What do not I fall under your framework?

[eagle owl]

Yeah, I thought the same thing until I hit your moss. Not convinced! This is not my framework; I did not create the concept of local civilizations. For all questions, contact A.J. Toynbee.

[Nagaibak]

Uhu "Please contact AJ Toynbee for all questions."
Well, at least not to D. Tolkin.

[eagle owl]

Exactly, it might even be more interesting.

[Saraev]

Quote: Uhu

Are you her master? A thick pipe?

Shareholder if you are so curious.

To the topic: Today the pantiff refused you.

[eagle owl]

I am not a Catholic. The heretical Roman bishop is not a decree to me.

[labus]

This article is pure anti-terrorist speculation on a historical theme. Cheap propaganda level. And the main thing is that it’s bad with facts.

[nestor_v]

And the facts are such that even the Pope refuses you!

[labus]

this Pope is not mine .... :) But it made you sadder. Even nice.

[albert]

Human meanness can be measured in the Poles. For example, vile as a hundred Poles, vile as a thousand Poles, and so on.