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First muslim

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The Soviet forces, introduced to assist in 1979 in the year of “friendly” Afghanistan, consisted of one unique, well-prepared special unit consisting exclusively of representatives of Central Asian nationalities. It is because of the origin of its personnel that this unit was called the "Muslim battalion." This battalion, unfortunately, did not last long, but managed to leave a bright trace in stories Gru.


First muslim


Already in the spring of 1979, the leadership of our country firmly understood that the situation in Afghanistan required military intervention. That is why it is necessary to be ready for any variants of succession of events. Here the idea of ​​a quiet and imperceptible introduction of small military units into the rebellious country arose. In the late spring of 1979, this decision was finally made and Vasily Vasilyevich Kolesnik (GRU colonel) was ordered to create a special forces battalion staffed by representatives of the indigenous nationalities of the southern republics. Carrying out the order, Kolesnik collected soldiers from various parts of the Soviet Union. Motorized infantrymen and tankmen, paratroopers and border guards got into the detachment. They were sent to a small district Uzbek town of Chirchik. All the soldiers, warrant officers, officers and even the battalion commander himself were of Central Asian nationalities, mainly Uzbeks, Turkmen and Tajiks, nominally Muslims. With such a composition, the detachment had no problems in language training; all Tajiks, as well as half of Turkmen and Uzbeks, were fluent in Farsi, which was one of the main languages ​​in Afghanistan.

The first Muslim battalion (but not the last, as history has shown), in the world being the 154-th separate special-purpose squad as part of the fifteenth brigade of the Turkestan IN, was headed by major Khabib Tadzhibayevich Khalbaev.

Initially, the unit had the following goal - to protect Nurmuhamed Taraki, the president of Afghanistan, who was trying to quickly lay down the socialist foundations in his country. Opponents of such radical changes were enough, and therefore Taraki very rightly feared for his life. By that time, political upheavals accompanied by bloodshed had become quite commonplace for Afghanistan.

The new formation was well provided with all the necessary resources, the fighters did not have limitations and limits on the means. The squad personnel received a completely new weapon. In accordance with the Decree of the General Staff of the Turkestan Military District, the battalion was allocated training grounds for two military schools: the Tashkent All-Arms Command and Tank School, located in Chirchik.

Throughout July and August, the soldiers were intensively engaged in combat training. Daily conducted tactical exercises, driving military vehicles, shooting.

Endurance fighters tempered in thirty-kilometer marches. Thanks to extensive material and technical means, the personnel of the "Muslim battalion" had the opportunity to achieve a high level of training in conducting hand-to-hand combat, shooting from all available types of weapons, as well as in driving BMP and BTR in extreme conditions.

Meanwhile, in Moscow, the soldiers of the “musbat” hastily sewed the Afghan uniform and prepared the necessary papers. Each fighter received documents of the established type in the Afghan language. Fortunately, there was no need to invent new names - the servicemen used their own. In Afghanistan, especially in the north of the country, there were many Uzbeks and Tajiks, and there were also Turkmen.

Soon the battalion replaced the Soviet military uniform with the uniform of the Afghan army. In order to make it easier to recognize each other, the soldiers of the detachment wound bandages of bandages on both hands. For even greater realism, military personnel constantly trained in Afghan uniform so that it had a well-worn look.

When at the end of the GRU check the battalion was already preparing to be sent to Afghanistan, another coup took place in Kabul. The closest associate of President Taraki Hafizullah Amin eliminated the previous leadership, taking control of the country. The reinforced training of the special detachment was suspended, visits to the higher commanders ceased, and life in the battalion became similar to ordinary army days. But such a lull did not last long, soon an order was received from Moscow to resume training. However, the purpose of training has changed completely. Now the servicemen were preparing not for defensive, but for assault operations against the Afghan government. This time, with the departure of the battalion, they did not delay. A list of the personnel that December 5 of December 1979 was supposed to take off on their first flight to prepare the camp was announced. The rest of the battalion was to join them on December 8.

During the flight, the soldiers of the "Muslim battalion" noticed one unusual fact: a detachment of military men of mature age was flying in the plane, but in soldiers' overcoats. Interested fighters were told that a group of sappers had gone with them. Only later it turned out that these were important "bumps" from the KGB and the GRU.


The detachment under the leadership of Uzbek Habib Khalbayev joined in Bagram a battalion of the security guard of the airbase from the 345-th separate parachute regiment, which had been stationed here since July 1979. And on December 14, another battalion of 345 arrived to them.

According to the original plan of the GRU leadership, the Muslim battalion was to come out of Bagram, immediately capturing the residence of Amin, who was in Kabul. However, at the last moment, the dictator moved to the new residence "Taj Bek", which was a real fortress. Plans quickly amended. The detachment was tasked to get to Kabul under its own power and appear near the Taj Bek Palace, as if to reinforce security. On the morning of December 20 around 540, GRU special forces fighters moved to the capital of Afghanistan.

In appearance, the detachment was very similar to the usual military formation of the Afghans, and the new president, Amin, was confident that the fighters had arrived to exercise external security for his new residence. On the way to the palace, servicemen stopped patrols more than a dozen times, passing only after receiving the appropriate password or permission from above. At the entrance to Kabul, the battalion was met by Afghan officers who escorted a special detachment all the way to the presidential palace.

The first line of protection of the "Taj Bek" was considered to be a company of personal bodyguards Hafizullah Amin. The third was a security brigade, under the leadership of Major Dzhandat - the main charge of Amin. Our Muslim battalion was to make the second line. From the air strike the palace was defended by an anti-aircraft regiment. The total number of soldiers at the palace reached two and a half thousand people.

The fighters of the GRU were placed in a separate unfinished building, located four hundred meters from the residence. The building did not even have glass on the windows, instead of them the soldiers pulled blankets. The final stage of preparation for the operation has begun. Every night on the nearby hills our fighters produced lightning flares, and in the boxes they launched engines of military vehicles. The commander of the Afghan guard showed dissatisfaction with such actions, but they explained to him that a routine training was under way related to the specifics of possible military operations. Of course, everything was done in order to put down the guard's vigilance, when the detachment would indeed go on assault.

Colonel Kolesnik, who drew up the plan for the operation, later talked about it: “I signed a signed and developed map on the map to Ivanov and Magomedov (respectively, chief adviser to the KGB of the USSR and chief military adviser to the Ministry of Defense). They approved the plan orally, but did not want to put their signatures. It was clear that while we were thinking how to accomplish the task set by the leadership, these cunning people would decide how to avoid responsibility in case of failure. Then I wrote on the plan in their presence: “The plan is approved orally. They refused to sign. ” I set the date, time and went to my battalion ... ".


In our operation to storm the palace, we took part in: the groups “Thunder” and “Zenith” (24 and 30 people, respectively, the commanders Major Romanov and Major Semenov), the Muslim battalion (530 people, headed by Major Khalbaev), the ninth company of 345. regiment (87 man, commander of the senior Vostrotin), anti-tank platoon (27 man under the leadership of Starley Savostyanov). The operation was supervised by Colonel Kolesnik, and his deputy was Major General Drozdov, the head of the illegal intelligence service of the KGB.

The time of the assault was postponed, as the information came that the Afghans were beginning to guess about everything. December 26 fighters were allowed to make a hiking bath. Fresh linen, new vests were distributed to all. Khalbayev received an order to cover the special forces of the KGB and suppress any groups trying to break into the residence. The main task of seizing the palace was entrusted to the fighters of the Zenit and Thunder groups.

At around 7 in the morning of December 27 on the 1979 of the year, the assault brigades of the KGB began to climb the mountain along the only serpentine road on a conditional signal "Storm 333". At this time, the people of Khalbaev seized important positions and firing points near the palace, they removed the guards. A separate group managed to neutralize the leadership of the infantry battalion. Twenty minutes after the start of the attack, "Thunder" and "Zenith" in combat vehicles, overcoming external guard posts, broke into the square in front of the palace. The doors of the troop compartments opened, and the men poured out. Some of them managed to break into the first floor of the "Taj Bek". A fierce clash began with the personal protection of the self-styled president, most of which consisted of his relatives.

Parts of the Muslim battalion, together with a company of paratroopers, formed an external defense ring, reflecting the attacks of the guard brigade. Two platoons of GRU special forces seized the barracks of the tank and the first infantry battalions, fell into their hands Tanks. It turned out that there were no bolts in tank guns and machine guns. This was the work of our military advisers, who, under the pretext of repair, removed mechanisms in advance.

In the palace, the Afghans fought with the stubbornness of the doomed. The hurricane fire from the windows pressed the special forces to the ground, and the attack choked. It was a turning point, it was necessary to urgently raise people and lead forward to help those who already fought in the palace. Under the leadership of officers Boyarinov, Karpukhin and Kozlov, the fighters rushed to the attack. In these moments, the Soviet soldiers suffered the greatest losses. In an attempt to reach the windows and doors of the palace, many soldiers were wounded. Only a small group rushed inside. In the building was a fierce battle. The commandos acted decisively and desperately. If nobody left the premises with raised arms, then grenades immediately flew through the broken doors. However, the Soviet soldiers were too few to eliminate Amin. Only about two dozen people were in the palace, and many were injured. After a short hesitation, Colonel Boyarinov ran out of the main entrance and began to call for help the fighters of the Muslim battalion. Of course, the enemy also noticed him. A stray bullet, rebounded from a bulletproof vest, pierced the colonel's neck. Boyarinov was fifty-seven years old. Of course, he could not participate in the assault, his official position and age allowed him to lead the battle from headquarters. However, it was a real officer of the Russian army - his subordinates were going into battle, and he had to be with them. Coordinating the actions of groups, he also acted as a simple attack aircraft.

After the soldiers of the Muslim battalion approached the help of the KGB special forces, the fate of the defenders of the palace was sealed. Amin's bodyguards, about one hundred and fifty soldiers and bodyguard officers bravely resisted, not wanting to surrender. The fact that the Afghans were mainly armed with German MP-5, who did not pierce the armor of Soviet soldiers, saved us from great losses of our servicemen.

According to the story taken by the captive assistant Amin, it became clear about the last moments of the dictator's life. In the first minutes of the battle, the "master" ordered to inform our military advisers about the attack on the palace. He shouted: "We need the help of the Russians!" When the adjutant rightly remarked: “That's how the Russians are shooting!”, The president lost his temper, grabbed an ashtray and threw it in the slave’s face, shouting: “You're lying, this cannot be!” Then he tried to call him. But there was no connection. In the end, Amin dejectedly said: “That's right, I suspected it ...”.


When the skirmish stopped, and the smoke in the palace cleared, the corpse of Hafizullah Amin was found near the bar. What actually caused his death, remained unexplained, whether our bullet, or a fragment of a grenade. There was also a version that Amin shot his own. This operation was officially completed.

All the wounded, including Afghans, were treated. The civilians under protection were taken to the battalion location, and all the killed defenders of the palace were buried in one place not far from Taj-Bek. The graves for them dug prisoners. To identify Hafizullah Amini Babrak Karmal specially flew. Soon the radio station of Kabul transmitted a message that, by decision of the military tribunal, Hafizullah Amin was sentenced to death. Later, the words of Babrak Karmal to the people of Afghanistan sounded on tape. He said that "... the torture system of Amin and his entourage - the executioners, murderers and usurpers of tens of thousands of my compatriots ..." was broken.

In a short but furious battle, Afghans lost about 350 people killed. Approximately 1700 people were taken prisoner. Our soldiers lost eleven people: five paratroopers, including Colonel Boyarinov, and six soldiers of the Muslim battalion. Also killed was a military doctor Colonel Kuznechenkov, who happened to be in the palace. Thirty-eight people earned injuries of varying degrees of severity. During the shootout, two young sons of the president were killed, but Amina's widow and her wounded daughter remained alive. At first they were kept under guard in a special room at the battalion location, and then were transferred to government representatives. The fate of the other defenders of the president turned out to be tragic: many of them were soon shot, others died in prison. This outcome was apparently promoted by Amin’s reputation, which even by Eastern standards was considered a cruel and bloody dictator. By tradition, his surroundings also automatically fell a spot of shame.

After Amin was eliminated, a plane immediately flew to Bagram from Moscow. In it, under the supervision of KGB workers, was the new head of Afghanistan, Babrak Karmal. When the Tu-134 was already going down, the light suddenly went out on the entire airfield. The plane landed only with the side headlights. The crew of the aircraft threw a brake parachute, but the plane had sunk almost to the edge of the runway. As it turned out later, the head of the airbase was an ardent supporter of Amin and, suspecting that something was wrong when landing a strange plane, turned off the lights, hoping to arrange a plane crash. But the high skill of the pilots avoided the tragedy.


Interesting facts about the operation began to emerge much later. First, it turned out that during the entire assault there was no connection with the command post. The reason for the absence so no one could clearly explain. An attempt to immediately report on the liquidation of the president was also unsuccessful. Secondly, it was only a couple of years later, at a meeting of the participants in those December events, it became known what could have been the delay in reporting the death of the president. It turned out that the military leaders had developed a reserve plan for the destruction of Amin and his entourage. A little later, the assault brigades, the task of seizing the presidential palace, received the Vitebsk division, which did not know about the earlier actions of the KGB and the "Muslim battalion." If the message about the achievement of the goal did not come in a timely manner, the Belarusians could start a new assault attempt. And then it is not known how much unknowingly, in the resulting confusion, the participants of the first offensive would have been killed. It is possible that just such an outcome of events - to remove more witnesses - was planned.

And here is what Colonel Kolesnik said: “In the evening of the next day after the assault, all the leaders of this operation were almost put to rest by a machine-gun burst by a Soviet soldier. Returning from a banquet organized on the occasion of the successful completion of the operation, we were fired at the Amin’s “Mercedes” near the General Staff building, which is under the protection of the paratroopers. Lieutenant Colonel Shvets was the first to notice strange flashes on an asphalt road and understood what they meant. He slipped out of the car, cutting the watch with a choice mat. It worked better than the password. We called the head of the guard. The appeared lieutenant first received in the ear, and only then listened to the end the order of the use of weapons by sentries at the posts. When we examined the car, we found several bullet holes in the hood. A little higher and neither me nor Kozlov would be alive. Already at the end, General Drozdov quietly said to the lieutenant: "Son, thank you for not teaching you to shoot your fighter."


The unique Muslim unit created under the auspices of the GRU was almost immediately after the storming of the palace was withdrawn from Afghanistan. All equipment was transferred to the Vitebsk division. The servicemen were left with only personal weapons and on January 2 of X-NUMX by two An-1980s in full were sent to Tashkent. For the successful conduct of the special operation, the fighters of the “Muslim battalion” were awarded orders and medals: seven people received the Order of Lenin, ten people received the Order of the Red Banner, forty-five - the Order of the Red Star, forty-six fighters were awarded the Medal of Courage, and the rest were awarded the medal "For military merit." Colonel Kolesnik became the Hero of the Soviet Union, he was soon granted the rank of general.

The battalion temporarily ceased to exist, the servicemen were discharged into the reserve, and all the officers were scattered around the various garrisons for further service. After the re-formation by October 1981, there was no one in it who took part in the storming of the palace.

Many events connected with the coup in Afghanistan were presented by the Soviet press in a completely different light. According to the original media version, President Amin was arrested. And then a fair trial, he was sentenced to death. The film was shot in advance and prepared for the show after the death of the dictator. The participation of the Soviet special forces and the real death of the self-styled president was not mentioned anywhere.


After the killing of Hafizullah Amin, the 40 Army units occupied cities, villages and the main centers of the country continued to enter Afghanistan. Industrial and administrative objects, highways, airfields, mountain passes were taken under control. At first, no one was going to fight, hoping only to convince those around them with serious intentions. As a last resort, solve all the tasks with a little blood, without assuming about the future scale of the hostilities. The point of view of the General Staff was such that it suffices only to demonstrate powerful military force, missile units, tanks, artillery. This will instill horror into the hearts of the opposition, forcing them to surrender or just run up. In fact, the emergence of aliens in an Islamic country that holds the experience of countless wars, a country where the majority of the population knows how to handle weapons from early childhood, has ignited a civil war that has already begun, giving it the meaning of jihad.

Despite the fact that the operation to eliminate the president was carried out successfully, Western countries were not slow in identifying this fact as evidence of the occupation of Afghanistan by the Soviet Union, and the subsequent leaders of Afghanistan (Karmal and Najibullah) were called puppet leaders.
October 30 1981-th year at two o'clock in the morning 154-th separate special forces unit, previously called the "Muslim battalion", crossed the state border of the USSR and rushed to the place of the future deployment. Thus, the second arrival of the “musbat” to the Afghan land took place. The new unit commander, Major Igor Stoderevsky, served with him until the very end of the war.

Information sources:
-http: //ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/
-http: //sevastopol.su/conf_view.php? id = 17319
-http: //afganrass.ucoz.ru/publ/musulmanskij_batalon/1-1-0-36
-http: //www.desant.com.ua/spn1.html


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  1. Apollo
    Apollo 11 February 2013 09: 27 New
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    An interesting and intriguing article. One can say how details of the operation would not be described vividly and vividly. Nevertheless, some points remained behind seven seals, due to the secrecy stamp. I think that someday this stamp will be removed.
    1. valokordin
      valokordin 11 February 2013 10: 22 New
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      of course first
    2. Kaa
      Kaa 11 February 2013 10: 49 New
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      Quote: Apollon
      Interesting and intriguing article
      I do not argue, although the first Muslim can not be called. I recall an old story (oh, long boas laughing )
      "В 20-е годы прошлого столетия Среднюю Азию захлестнула волна басмачества, организованная мятежными силами при поддержке Англии, которая снабжала бандгруппы самым современным оружием. Боевики базировались в Иране и Северных районах Афганистана.
      In the second half of the 20s, the Soviet government began severe political pressure on Afghanistan to expel bandit groups from its territory. As a result of the measures taken, Amanullah Khan, who was friendly to Soviet Russia, sharply limited the assistance to bandits coming from the British special services, and forced some of them to leave the country. The British did not like it. And at the end of 1928 a rebellion began in Afghanistan. The rebels were led by the English agent Bachai Sakao (Habibullah), who was supervised by the "super spy" Lawrence The Arabian Padishah Amanullah was forced to flee to the mountainous regions, and immediately after that the invasion of the reorganized and re-equipped Basmachis from Afghanistan into the Soviet republics of Central Asia began.
      In March 1929, Stalin held a strictly confidential meeting with the Minister for Foreign Affairs of Afghanistan, Sidik Khan. Immediately after this, an instruction was sent to Tashkent: urgently to form a special detachment of communists and Komsomol members to be sent to Afghanistan. The participants in the campaign were personally selected by the deputy commander of the Central Asian military district M.Germanovich. This was, perhaps, the first Soviet special forces of the NKVD. After 50 years, this was repeated, but on a different scale..
      «15 апреля 1929 года советско-афганскую границу пересек странный на вид отряд. Две тысячи всадников, одетых в афганскую военную форму, но общавшихся между собой на русском языке, отлично вооруженных и экипированных, с запасом провианта, переправились через полноводную Амударью и вступили на афганскую территорию. Переправа была произведена в районе таджикского города Термез, почти в том самом месте, где полвека спустя советские саперы наведут наплавной мост для войск 40-й армии, вступавших в ДРА, чтобы стать "Ограниченным контингентом".
      Командовал отрядом человек, называвшийся "турецким офицером Рагиб-беем". На самом деле это был герой Гражданской войны, Ataman of the Red Cossacks of Ukraine Vitaliy Markovich Primakov, since 1927, he served as the Soviet military attache in Afghanistan. ”
      The Ragib-Bey detachment immediately began military operations on the Afghan coast of Amu-Darya, suddenly attacking the Pata-Kisar border post with the support of aviation. Of the 50 Afghan soldiers who occupied him, two remained alive. The reinforcements sent to the post were destroyed almost instantly. A military expedition advanced to the city of Mazar-i-Sheriff. The practically unknown special operation of our troops on the territory of Afghanistan has begun. A fierce battle for Mazar-Sheriff went on all day. Soon the squad radio operator sent a message to Tashkent about the capture of the largest center of Northern Afghanistan. The garrison of the nearby Deidadi fortress and the local militia attempted to dislodge the Soviet detachment. Towards night, it became apparent to the Afghan generals that no courage, fanaticism and willingness to sacrifice could win a war, not just a battle against a staunch and skillful adversary armed with modern weapons.
      1. Kaa
        Kaa 11 February 2013 10: 50 New
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        The Afghans surpassed our detachment in the power of artillery fire - by more than 10 times, in the number of machine guns - by more than 5 times, in manpower - by several dozen times. To help the Primakov detachment, breaking through the border, he went out второй отряд из 400 красноармейцев в афганской форме под командованием "Зелим-хана" - командира кавбригады САВО И.Петрова – будущего Героя Великой Отечественной.. After a quick march to Mazar-Sheriff and a fierce short fight, Primakov’s detachment was released, the Afghans, exhausted by heavy fighting, partly fled, partly retreated to the Daidadi fortress, from which they were immediately knocked out by the combined units of Petrov and Primakov, with the support of several Turkestan Front aviation, the Soviet squad began to advance south, where one of the convoys of 350 fighters soon met “old acquaintances” along the way - another 3-strong gang of Ibrahim-bek and a 1,5-strong detachment of Afghan rebels under a coma dovaniem "Minister of Defense" Seid Hussein, who personally decided to demonstrate his stupid generals how to fight a "shuraviDva hours lasted a terrible battle ... Basmachi fiercely resisted. The military ingenuity of Ivan Petrov helped to win the battle. By his order, three prisoners captured from the bek were sent to the enemy to inform the leader of the second gang about the results of the previous battle - 2500 were killed, 176 were captured and only three hundred fighters managed to escape. The warning worked: the Basmachi laid down their arms. Primakov’s detachment takes one after another the important cities of Balkh and Tashkurgan, but they recall him to Moscow, where he was transferred by special flight. The command of the detachment was taken by “Ali Avzal Khan” - Alexander Ivanovich Cherepanov, a former headquarters captain of the tsarist army, a talented Red Army brigade commander who served in the Red Army as a volunteer from February 23, 1918, and participated in the very first battle of the Red Army - with the Germans near Pskov. In 1923-27 he was a military adviser in China, where in 1938-1939. again performed a special task of the Red Army Intelligence. In 41-44, Lieutenant General Cherepanov commanded the 23rd Army, which successfully defended Leningrad from the Finnish direction - on the Karelian Isthmus.
        Suddenly, for all, Amanullah, who was very determined before that, refuses to continue the struggle, takes the state funds that were in his hands and leaves for the West forever. He finished his days in Switzerland as early as 1960.


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        1. Kaa
          Kaa 11 February 2013 10: 51 New
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          It was a big win for the British intelligence services. The Soviet military presence in Afghanistan was now without any diplomatic justification, in which case the USSR would be declared an aggressor. Therefore, the Cherepanov-Petrov detachment was ordered to return to their homeland. The feats of the Soviet soldiers were amazing without any exaggeration, over 300 soldiers and officers from about 2500 received the highest USSR award in those years - the Order of the Red Banner.. Our losses amounted to about 120 people killed and wounded against more than 8 thousand killed (!) From the enemy. Although it is impossible to establish the exact amount of enemy losses, it seems to be sharply underestimated. In all likelihood, the loss of Afghans killed and captured significantly exceeded 20 thousand. Despite the fact that the task was not completed, the maximum of the special operation - the establishment of a friendly regime in Afghanistan, owed much to the USSR, the minimum tasks were completely fulfilled - the Basmachi bases in Northern Afghanistan were destroyed, the bandits suffered irreparable losses. The Afghan leadership was, so to speak, very impressed with the fighting ability of the Red Army and the determination of the Soviet leadership and no longer had illusions about what awaits the Afghan army if it confronts the Red Army and what will happen to them personally if they decide to seriously quarrel with the British under pressure THE USSR.
          Reliable data from Soviet intelligence on plans to tear off Northern Afghanistan and form a separate Basmachian state led by Ibrahim-bek were transmitted to Bachai Sakao. The Afghans were furious and soon agreed to a military operation.
          At the end of June 1930, Soviet troops, parts of the combined cavalry brigade reappeared in Afghanistan in coordination with the Afghan authorities. The effectiveness of the operation, taking into account the losses, was without exaggeration brilliant. The operation was led by a knowledgeable local manners. Communist Yakov Melkumov (Hakob Melkumyan), who lived in Turkestan since 1890, whose cavalry brigade defeated the army of a high-ranking Turkish intelligence officer Enver Pasha in 1922, whom Melkumov personally hacked with a saber in a cavalry battle Last year’s experience was impressive, so Ibrahim-bek and several other prominent kurbashi fled to the mountains, experiencing panic in terror at the thought of fighting with Soviet special forces. The Soviet leadership in the early thirties achieved its goal - after “an offer that could not be refused” (and in fact, the ultimatum of the Soviet special services) part of the Basmachi was disarmed by the Afghan army, and in the spring of 1931 the cavalry of the nomad Turkmen, who were well paid by the Afghan government, dealt a sudden blow to the bases of the irreconcilable Ibrahim Bek stvo, apparently Soviet money. “Ibrahim-bek was escorted to Tashkent, where he appeared before a revolutionary court. Hundreds of residents of Turkestan, one way or another affected by gangs led by Ibrahim-bey and his minions, took part in the show trial. The sentence was revolutionary in short - execution. ” The effectiveness of the actions of the USSR special services in the defeat of the Basmachis and the capture of Ibrahim-bek was noted at a meeting of the Politburo led by Stalin.http: //www.vkimo.com/node/451
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 11 February 2013 12: 23 New
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      2. Jadid
        Jadid 3 February 2019 08: 18 New
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        Переправа была произведена в районе таджикского города Термез, почти в том самом месте, где полвека спустя советские саперы наведут наплавной мост для войск 40-й армии, вступавших в ДРА, чтобы стать "Ограниченным контингентом".

        Господин Каа, весь бывший Союз знает, что город Термез является узбекским городом, а если с точки зрения тех времен хотели сказать, то туркестанским. И после такой элементарной ошибки с трудом верится в Ваш "рассказ".
    3. yak69
      yak69 11 February 2013 19: 21 New
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      Думаю, что гриф "СовСекр" будет снят оочень не скоро. Нет ни слова про самый первый захват аэропорта. Одним словом, много ещё чего "интересного" не досказано....
    4. vladizlov
      vladizlov 11 February 2013 22: 55 New
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      reliably all the same never unfortunately we will not know anything
    5. ramzes1776
      ramzes1776 12 February 2013 02: 12 New
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      Now we would have to send such a battalion to Syria incognito. It would be a good idea to let the whole opposition go for mince amHe would not only be useful in Syria now. Fact !!!
  2. wolf1945
    wolf1945 11 February 2013 10: 19 New
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    Soon February 15, All who have not returned from the Afghan war have eternal memory, and who survived the glory!
  3. valokordin
    valokordin 11 February 2013 10: 21 New
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    Course first
  4. valokordin
    valokordin 11 February 2013 10: 23 New
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    checked min no
  5. borisst64
    borisst64 11 February 2013 10: 28 New
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    "Показавшийся лейтенант сначала получил в ухо"

    Is it a lieutenant paratrooper in the ear? Do not make me laugh! If someone touched me as the head of the guard, it would be a great emergency. And fighters always dreamed. Something Colonel Kolesnik says too much.
    1. Eugene
      Eugene 11 February 2013 13: 33 New
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      Easy! From the Colonel then.
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 11 February 2013 17: 45 New
      -1
      Well, after the banquet ...! what
    3. Quiet
      Quiet 11 February 2013 18: 30 New
      +6
      In that setting from Grushnik ??? EASY !!!! . And easy to get off !!!! angry
  6. andrey903
    andrey903 11 February 2013 10: 41 New
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    Although they have written the truth, the alpha veteran is credited with taking the palace of Amin for himself, in the amount of 40 people. In fact, they were only a small part of the combined detachment. I’ll add from the words of friends of the assault participants that many of the guards of the palace died during the construction of silks from the mountains as a result of the fire
    1. Zynaps
      Zynaps 11 February 2013 19: 27 New
      +6
      скажу больше. под Москвабадом, в Долгопрудном, живёт мужик из штурмовой группы КГБ, так его назначили официальным и персональным ликвидатором Амина. тогда как достоверно до сих пор не выяснено, кто же на самом деле завалил Амина (скорее всего, кто-то из "мусбата"), потому что спецам из КГБ досталась уже остывающая тушка Амина. а ещё обидно, что в основном кагэбэшников за Афган наградили самыми высокими наградами. из ГРУ ГСС стал только Колесник, Востротин из ВДВ получил Героя после двух командировок в Афган и командования 345-м гв.опдп. когда я служил в первой половине 80-х - довелось лично увидеть Колесника - посещал наш отряд уже будучи генерал-майором и командующим войсками специальной разведки ГРУ.

      one of those killed is very sorry - this is Colonel Boyarinov from the KGB. old special, since the Great Patriotic War. In fact, he created the KUOS, an officer forge of personnel for the KGB special operations.
      1. yak69
        yak69 12 February 2013 01: 02 New
        +1
        Yes, Vostrotin Valery Alexandrovich is a real officer, a wonderful man! Had the good fortune of getting one of his rewards from his hands.
        I am grateful to fate for meeting with such people.
        He is certainly harsh and merciless, but fair.
        Glory to the heroes!
  7. vladeinord
    vladeinord 11 February 2013 12: 16 New
    +5
    All this is very interesting, but we don’t know and don’t know much. Congratulations to my colleagues and all who were there with the upcoming holiday- Day of withdrawal from the RA. Especially 350 regiment of 103 Airborne Division !!!
  8. smprofi
    smprofi 11 February 2013 12: 21 New
    +7
    Recently came across a photo: Afghan. before the war. and before the revolution, under the king.
    photo of the second half of the 60s:






    1. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 11 February 2013 18: 36 New
      13

      And now a photograph from the same place, taken in our time (40 years after the first photograph):

      1. Hleb
        Hleb 11 February 2013 18: 41 New
        +5
        abaldet ... even no stumps left. they deliberately chtoli destroyed this beauty
        1. Marek Rozny
          Marek Rozny 12 February 2013 04: 17 New
          +2
          Do not make extreme only Afghans. All they wanted was to conduct their policy with the USSR and the West at equal partner distance. But the games of the two superpowers turned this country into medieval ruins.

          Z.Y. Although Kabul in some places is now very good and quite modern.
  9. mamba
    mamba 11 February 2013 13: 36 New
    +2
    Glory to the heroes and eternal memory of the dead. I hope that we will soon read about the battles of the Musbat during the second period of stay in Afghanistan.
    1. Zynaps
      Zynaps 11 February 2013 19: 03 New
      +3
      никакого второго периода пребывания в Афгане для "мусбата" не было. отряд создавался под конкретную операцию, в него набирали солдат-срочников из жителей Средней Азии, отслуживших год - полтора (по другим данным - полгода - год) в мотострелковых или танковых войсках. ОШС нового отряда была новой и создавалась специально под Афганистан - 520 человек. солдат готовили по интенсивной программе. после выполнения задания кого похоронили, кого наградили, но всех всех срочников уволили в запас, даже тех, кому оставалось служить ещё полгода. уже в первых числах 1980-го отряд был выведен в Чирчик под Ташкентом и вплоть до марта того же года существовал чисто номинально. в марте его заново укомплектовали (уже не как "мусбат", а как 154 ооспн) во главе с майором Стодеревским и снова отправили "за речку", но уже с достаточно прозаическим заданием охранять топливный трубопровод, тянущийся через границу Союза до Пули-Хумри. вплоть до начала 1984 г. у отряда сменилось несколько командиров (включая Квачкова), и всё это время отряд представлял из себя фактически моторизованный батальон охраны трубопровода. ни в каких спецоперациях он не участвовал. в то время в Афгане только Кабульская 459 орспн воевала как спецназ. а вот когда 154-й отряд заново скомплектовали из военнослужащих спецназа и перевели его в Джелалабад, попутно проводя план "Завеса" по перекрытию границы с Пакистаном (в исполнение которого в Афган ввели ещё два отряда спн) - вот тогда-то у него началась вторая жизнь, как у части специального назначения.
  10. Eugene
    Eugene 11 February 2013 13: 36 New
    +1
    Офигительная статья.Столько нового узнал!Кстати,кто знает что такое "Пражский вариант".Иногда упоминают его в связи с этими событиями,но похоже,байка.После прочитанного.
    1. smprofi
      smprofi 11 February 2013 14: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: eugene
      что такое "Пражский вариант

      does that mean?

      В 2 часа ночи 21 августа 1968 г на аэродроме "Рузине" в Праге высадились передовые подразделения 7-й воздушно-десантной дивизии. Захват аэродрома был произведен с помощью обманного маневра: подлетающий к аэродрому советский пассажирский самолет запросил аварийную посадку из-за якобы повреждения на борту. После разрешения и посадки двух транспортных Ан-12 десантники захватили диспетчерскую башню и перекрыли связь аэродрома с внешним миром. Часть десанта осталась на аэродроме, а небольшая группа на двух автомобилях поехала в Прагу, арестовала Александра Дубчека (руководителя коммунистической партии Чехословакии, из-за реформ которого, собственно, и было решено ввести войска Варшавского договора в Чехословакию). Затем Дубчека доставили в "Рузине", посадили в самолет и вывезли в Москву. Тихо и без лишнего шума. А далее на аэродром начали прибывать транспортные самолеты с основными силами воздушно-десантной дивизии.

      Classics

      Операция выполненная не "спецназом", а обычными десантниками.
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 12 February 2013 07: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: smprofi
        Часть десанта осталась на аэродроме, а небольшая группа на двух автомобилях поехала в Прагу, арестовала Александра Дубчека (руководителя коммунистической партии Чехословакии, из-за реформ которого, собственно, и было решено ввести войска Варшавского договора в Чехословакию). Затем Дубчека доставили в "Рузине", посадили в самолет и вывезли в Москву. Тихо и без лишнего шума. А далее

        Shopipets!
        У меня в шкафу лежит альбом художника, который, кажется, был министром культуры в правительстве Дубчека. На титульном листе рукой Дубчека написано: "Победителю от побеждённых". Ниже - подписи всех арестованных "членов". Этот альбом Дубчек подарил моему отцу при посадке в самолёт. Отец был откомандирован тогда из 10 Добровольческой Гв.тд (Крампниц) в 14 Полтавскую Гв.мсд (Ютербог) в качестве командира роты глубинной разведки. Рота имела, в том числе, задачи: захват аэропорта, обеспечение посадки самолётов с десантниками в Праге, захват Пражского кремля и арест мятежного правительства, о чём есть запись в Историческом формуляре 32 ОРБ. Так что ВДВ там участвовали в качестве "полевого наполнения". Основные проблемы решали части, введённые с территории ГСВГ. Во всяком случае, в Праге. Легенды и мифы - это хорошо и красиво, но правда обычно прозаична и неинтересна.
  11. s1н7т
    s1н7т 11 February 2013 13: 44 New
    0
    Что-то много мелких "косяков" в статье, возможно, сам автор не совсем "в теме", но статья в целом полезная.
    П.С. Склероз мне подсказывает, что в батальоне был ещё взвод "Шилок" - кто-то может уточнить?
    P.P.S. And how many glorious deeds of the Soviet GRU we still do not know! laughing
    1. andrey903
      andrey903 11 February 2013 13: 47 New
      -2
      Shilka installed ours on the mountains supposedly to protect the palace
    2. Sirocco
      Sirocco 11 February 2013 16: 08 New
      0
      There is a book by S.Kozlov et al. Special Forces of the GRU (fifty years of history, twenty years of war) 2 parts. This and other operations are described in detail there.
    3. Zynaps
      Zynaps 11 February 2013 19: 12 New
      +1
      ОШС 154-го отдельного отряда СпН ("мусульманского батальона") май – декабрь 1979:

      - management

      - headquarters

      - four companies (in 1, 2, 3 companies in 6 groups):

      1st company: 13 (according to other sources, 5 units) BMP-1, military unit Sharipov (+ translator, cadet of VKIMO) - 120 people.

      2nd company: BTR-60PB (+ translator, cadet of VKIMO)

      3nd company: BTR-60PB (+ translator, cadet of VKIMO)

      4th company of weapons (+ translator, cadet VKIMO):

      - Grenade launcher platoon (6 AGS-17)

      - Flamethrower platoon (RPO “Lynx”)

      - Sapper platoon.

      - individual platoons:

      anti-aircraft platoon (4 ZSU “Shilka”, senior gunner Pautov Vasily (which is interesting - the only Russian in the detachment for the duration of the operation))

      communication platoon,

      car platoon (UAZ, GAZ-66)

      platoon of logistics.

      BCH (AP-66)

      In total: 520 people (including 60 officers), national composition: Tajiks, Uzbeks, Turkmen.

      WKIMO - Military Red Banner Institute of the Ministry of Defense of the USSR, in which military translators were trained
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 12 February 2013 07: 54 New
        0
        Quote: Zynaps
        anti-aircraft platoon (4 ZSU "Shilka", senior fighter Pautov Vasily

        Вот, я потому и спрашивал про Шилки, что довелось потом служить вместе. Много интересного рассказывал "за рюмкой чаю" laughing Why the picture described in the article seems incomplete and a little clumsy.
        1. Sadroger
          Sadroger 10 March 2013 00: 28 New
          0
          Not Pautov Vasily, but Prauta Vasily. For this operation he received the Order of Lenin, in the 80s he served as head of the air defense of a motorized rifle regiment in Kizyl-Arvat.
  12. erix-xnumx
    erix-xnumx 11 February 2013 13: 48 New
    +2
    Great things of a great country ... How recently and how long ago all this was.
  13. baku1999
    baku1999 11 February 2013 13: 50 New
    0
    ECHO SHURAVI SHURAVI, WHICH ONLY THE HOURS WERE NOT STUFFED BY US BY OUR MOTHER .................... AND TO THE PARENTS, WIFE AND CHILDREN OF THE DIED, THE PENSION WHICH THE CAT PAID AND A MONUMENT WITH A FIVE-POINT AND GUARD IN ADDITION .................... FOR WHAT AND FROM WHOM AND WHAT ?????????????????????
    1. Eugene
      Eugene 11 February 2013 15: 14 New
      0
      Is it better to die in the entrance, drowning in your own vomit?
    2. Quiet
      Quiet 11 February 2013 18: 53 New
      +9
      Не надо путать РОДИНУ с чинушьими ушлёпками из военкоматов которые орали в лицо ГЕРОЯМ " Я ТЕБЯ ТУДА НЕ ПОСЫЛАЛ " , которые завидовали всем Героям вернувшимся из-за " Речки " ... . Чинушам было обидно что ОНИ!!! " Такие Трудяги !!!" Такого почёта и наград никогда иметь не будут у НАРОДА , и ' льгот " от таких неполучивших наград которые получили " АВГАНЦЫ " не получат никогда !!!! Ребята !!! Всем выжвшим СЛАВА !!! Всем погибшим ВЕЧНАЯ ПАМЯТЬ!!! . Большое спасибо и низкий поклон их родителям за то что вырастили ПРЕКРАСНЫХ РЕБЯТ !!!! .... . ЗА ТЕХ КТО ХОДИЛ ЗА " РЕЧКУ " drinks
  14. Eugene
    Eugene 11 February 2013 14: 50 New
    0
    That's it. And how sideways did this topic come about in Afghanistan?
  15. Eugene
    Eugene 11 February 2013 15: 13 New
    0
    Речь про "Пражский вариант".
  16. Marek Rozny
    Marek Rozny 11 February 2013 16: 21 New
    +6
    It was the first, but not the only Muslim battalion of the Soviet army in Afghanistan.

    "...Отлично зарекомендовал себя 154-й отряд спецназа, так называемый мусульманский батальон, особенно отличившийся при штурме дворца Амина. По его подобию и было решено создать еще несколько отрядов спецназа. В Среднеазиатском военном округе, недалеко от Алматы, в районе города Капчагай началось формирование 177-го отряда спецназа Главного разведывательного управления Генштаба СССР.

    After a long selection of candidates, Major Boris Tukenovich Kerimbaev was appointed his commander - a strong-willed, proactive, clear leader, capable of leading an attack, at the same time smart and cautious, for whom soldier blood is not vodka. One bad luck, the major recently went on a business trip to Ethiopia. Kerimbaev is urgently being withdrawn. Directly from the ramp, a dusty, perplexed officer is taken to SAVO headquarters. The father of Boris Tukenovich, having learned that his son was in Almaty, came to the checkpoint. We managed to talk only ten minutes. But then the last word was for Moscow, for the chief of the General Staff, Marshal Sokolov.

    …Напутственные слова начальника ГРУ генерала армии Иваншутина звучали, как приговор: "Борис, мы, когда за тебя голосовали, по одной руке поднимали. Подведешь, и встанет вопрос тебя расстрелять, две руки поднимем. Командир за все в ответе".

    В отряд набирали в основном добровольцев. Хотя официально никто не говорил, но все знали, что отряд готовят для Афганистана. Большую его часть составили азиаты: казахи, киргизы, узбеки, таджики. Учили жестко. Отличное владение любыми видами стрелкового оружия, рукопашный бой, владение холодным оружием, приемы диверсионной борьбы, прыжки с парашютом..."
    ==========

    Из интервью с командиром "мусульманского батальона" Б.Керимбаевым:
    "...Ахмад Шах Масуд поклялся на Коране, что буквально через месяц последнего советского бойца в этом ущелье он зажарит на костре. Эти слова облетели весь Афганистан – как символ того, что “Панджшерский лев” непобедим, что даже советские войска не могут его одолеть. Когда бумага с донесением об этом легла на стол командующему маршалу Соколову, меня, как командира отдельного 177-го “мусульманского” отряда особого назначения, вызвали в его ставку и поставили задачу зайти в Панджшерское ущелье и продержаться там месяц. То есть доказать Ахмад Шаху, что он не сможет жарить советских бойцов на костре в э том ущелье.

    They threw us into the gorge, but they forgot to withdraw, as promised, a month later. We had to run in the mountains for eight months in Panjshir and fight with Ahmad Shah Masoud.

    Перед заданием мне досрочно присвоили звание подполковника. Признаться, я сильно опасался, выйду ли я и мои люди оттуда живыми? Представьте: выводят 10 тысяч советских солдат и немногим меньше афганских и бросают туда один отряд в полторы тысячи бойцов. В ущелье – высоты, сопки; откуда камень ни кинь – он все равно упадет “в колодец”. И вот на дне этого “колодца” со своим отрядом я и остался. Нас начали бомбить. Даже не расставляя машин, не окапываясь, сразу шесть рот пошли работать (воевать то есть), занимать ближайшие высоты. Если бы я их не взял – мы много бы там потеряли. За два года войны в Афганистане у меня было в среднем около тысячи человек. Погибло – около пятидесяти, из них 45 солдат и сержантов, один прапорщик и четыре офицера. Я прошел Афганистан с самыми наименьшими потерями среди командиров частей. И большую часть – около сорока человек – я оставил в Панджшере. Если бы я не сопротивлялся, не показал бы зубы, они вполне могли бы меня и моих ребят зажарить на костре..."

    Z.Y. Karimbaev became the personal enemy of the famous Ahmadshah Masoud. For the head of the Soviet officer, they were awarded a prize of one million dollars.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 11 February 2013 18: 11 New
      +5
      Marek Rozny good

      Наиболее известными боевыми операциями отряда 154 ооСпН , после "Шторм 333", стали:
      - Capture of Dushman bases in Jar-Kuduk (Jauzjan province, December 1981),
      - Capture of the Dushman bases in Darzab (Fariab province, January 1982),
      - lifting the blockade of Sancharak (Jauzjan province, April 1982).
      - the destruction of 2 gangs in Kuli-Ishan (Samangan province, October 1982),
      - взятие баз душманов в Мармольском ущелье (провинция Балх, март 1983 г.). Операции в провинциях Нангархар и Кунар под Кулалой, Бар-Кошмундом, Багича, в УР "Гошта", УР "Карера", Лой-Термай, в Черных горах, под Шахиданом, Мангваль, Сарбанд, армейской операции "Восток-88" и других.

      The combat order of the commander of 40 OA 01 dated March 13.03.1988, 154, the withdrawal of 15 ooSpN was determined by the first convoy from Jalalabad on May 1988, 228. 18 units of military equipment with one convoy completed the march of Jalalabad-Kabul-Puli-Khumri-Khayraton in three days. On May 20, they crossed the state border of the USSR in the Termez region. May 1988, XNUMX by rail completed access to the place of permanent deployment in the city of Chirchik USSR.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 11 February 2013 18: 20 New
        +3
        Quote: Marek Rozny
        In the area of ​​the city of Kapchagay, the formation of the 177th Special Forces detachment of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the USSR began.

        drinks
        1. Marek Rozny
          Marek Rozny 12 February 2013 03: 34 New
          +2
          Thanks for the video. Did not see him. Looked at all three parts. True, this is already the end of the war - 1988, it was then that they were thrown under Kabul. And here's another interesting info from Wiki:

          The lack of control over reconnaissance in the held provinces of Afghanistan forced the General Staff of the USSR Ministry of Defense to again introduce special (assault) reconnaissance into Afghanistan. At the end of October 1981, 154 oSpN (1 omsb) was returned, with a new composition and new commander Igor Stoderevsky [2], and a “fresh” Muslim battalion of 177 oSn spn (2 omsb) was commanded under the command of Boris Kerimbaev, who was part of 1984 in the composition of the 15 ObrSpN in Jalalabad.

          The 2nd Muslim battalion (177th Special Forces Command) under the command of Major Karimbaev is known for participating in the history of the Afghan war as the only GRU special intelligence unit that was used (the 5th and 6th Panjshir operation - Panjshir operations) not for their intended purpose reconnaissance - sabotage specifics, and as a mountain rifle unit to capture the high mountain fortified areas of the Mujahideen. Neither before nor after the 2nd Muslim battalion tasks of this nature and complexity were not posed to the special forces in the Afghan war. By the time the 177th Special Forces Group entered Afghanistan, the task of collecting personnel on a national basis, certainly the same as in the case of the first composition of the 1st Muslim battalion, who stormed Amin’s palace by storm, was no longer in place. Therefore, the 2nd Muslim battalion corresponds to its name by 80%.
          Organization and Staff Structure of the 177th Separate Special Forces Unit for Summer 1982

          Until 1984, they acted on the same tactics as the Dushmans - ambushes and raids. Rarely, but had to take part in combined arms operations of the 40th Army. Since the beginning of 1984, the strategy of the General Staff of the USSR Ministry of Defense in Afghanistan has changed towards the destruction of caravans and stockpiles of weapons of the Mujahideen, and not the struggle against individual groups. However, the actions of the GRU special intelligence in Afghanistan did not end there. They were the last to leave, covering the exit of the main troops along with units of the Central Asian Border District of the KGB of the USSR.
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 11 February 2013 18: 28 New
        +5
        Quote: Karlsonn
        access to the place of permanent deployment in the city of Chirchik USSR.


        Oh, this was a serious opponent for us tankers. If the showdown on the street did not end. then recouped on each other on the garrison kitsch.
        truth. I will not tell everything - tin.

        But there were some cool positives. At the training ground, they studied for us and we studied for them. We trampled them once cool during the landing. The company was landing from an airplane, and we attacked them from an ambush. Landing is defenseless at this moment, and then the guys quickly organized a defense. Then, we and the airborne forces examined this situation together.

        Chirchik is a nice city. helicopter pilots, paratroopers specialists, plus training was landing. TVOKovtsy from Tashkent studied at Baghee. So everyone worked against each other, so to speak, they really saw the enemy. drinks
  17. Eugene
    Eugene 11 February 2013 16: 23 New
    0
    Прочитал в одной книжке фразу чела,который дембельнулся,да на гражданке не прижился:"Я хочу погибнуть за Родину!",Пафосно,вроде,но все таки...
  18. vorobey
    vorobey 11 February 2013 16: 45 New
    +8
    Colonels Rashidov and Abdulaev back in 79, the starleys, the commanders of the Muslim battalion companies, in Chirchik 10 years later taught us the yellow-handed in the Tashkent tank. the truth about those events is only one of them Abdulaev mentioned only once and then only briefly.

    And they taught us precisely from our own experience - to survive and win at the same time.
  19. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 11 February 2013 18: 24 New
    +1
    One thing is not clear why the headline is Muslim, some kind of nonsense, they were not Muslims, they were Soviet soldiers and Islam had nothing to do with it.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 11 February 2013 18: 40 New
      +4
      vladsolo56,

      It was he. And he entered the history of the Armed Forces of the USSR and the Russian Federation precisely as a Muslim battalion, and those who served in it accepted it with pride. so there’s nothing abusive here.
      1. 77bor1973
        77bor1973 11 February 2013 22: 28 New
        0
        Халбоев по моему перед назначением преподовал на курсах " выстрел" в Солнечногорске.
        1. Zynaps
          Zynaps 12 February 2013 03: 21 New
          0
          неа. Халбаев до "Шторма" был начальником ВДС в одной из одшбр. парашютным хозяйством и прыжками заведовал. в этой службе - реально - самые суровые мужики в десанте.
    2. Hleb
      Hleb 11 February 2013 18: 50 New
      0
      and Islam has nothing to do with it.

      and by the way this topic is long ....
    3. Guun
      Guun 11 February 2013 21: 19 New
      +7
      You see think Islam and Islam are two different things? Sadness. Muslims fought in Afghanistan, how many Kazakhs in Kazakhstan who went through the war, a familiar Afghan Tajik came to visit from Samarkand and reads prayer and does not regret it.
      Respect the warriors no matter what religions they abstain, because they fought for one country while it was destroyed.
      If you weren’t served in Afghanistan immediately to write that this was nonsense, I’m Muslim and fought in Afghanistan, is that also nonsense?
      1. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 12 February 2013 03: 45 New
        +5
        my uncle Omar Askarov was a reconnaissance paratrooper in Afghanistan. Order of the Red Star.
        а вроде из туркестанцев - узбеки и таджики как-то не очень вроде бы проявили себя в Афгане, поскольку не очень приятно было стрелять в афганских сородичей. а вот казахи родственных чувств по отношению к душманам не испытывали, да и особо рьяными муслимами мы не являемся. хотя в первой киноленте ныне уже знаменитого Тимура Бекмамбетова "Пешаварский вальс" есть момент, в котором один советский казах отказывается стрелять в мусульман, а другой казах наоборот призывает его исполнять воинский долг. но это кино. а в реале я не слышал, чтобы казахам мешало что-то в афганской войне в религиозном плане.
        1. Eugene
          Eugene 12 February 2013 09: 22 New
          0
          You have to watch this movie. I haven’t heard about it yet.
          1. Marek Rozny
            Marek Rozny 12 February 2013 14: 17 New
            0
            I hope that someday Bekmambetov will re-shoot this film at an updated technical level. The topic that he raised there is very interesting - the uprising of Soviet prisoners of war in the Badaber camp (Pakistan).
        2. Zynaps
          Zynaps 12 February 2013 16: 40 New
          0
          с таджиками в Афгане проблем не было. воевали они хорошо - от многих командиров слышал. их охотно брали в ОСНАЗ, в разведку и в рейдовые батальоны за знание языка. с узбеками было сложнее, но тоже особых проблем не было. помню, как ещё в учебке один из узбеков в нашей роте написал рапорт с просьбой отправить его в Афган. на вопрос - "на кой тебе это надо?" - ответил в том смысле, что в ихнем городишке всё на семь пятилеток вперёд схвачено и пути наверх ему не будет, а коли вернётся домой после Афгана, да ещё с медалью, то живо всех построит и займёт место директора ресторана, в котором работал до призыва в армию.
      2. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 12 February 2013 05: 55 New
        +3
        I grew up and lived in Kazakhstan (eastern), so I had Kazakh friends and I don’t remember that one of them claimed to be a Muslim, we were pioneers, Komsomol members, and we didn’t even stutter about religion, it’s now become fashionable to classify ourselves to believers. so all the nonsense and lies.
        This is the same as saying that all Russian Orthodox, for example, I am an atheist, and it really annoys me when I am considered to be Orthodox without me.
        1. Marek Rozny
          Marek Rozny 12 February 2013 14: 13 New
          +2
          Vladsolo56, well, sort of like yes. But on the other hand, try to bury the Kazakh not Muslim! Or try treating pork)))) Or find an uncircumcised Kazakh in a public bath)))) My father was a political officer, so circumcision was done to me on the day of the October Revolution)))))))))))
    4. Eugene
      Eugene 12 February 2013 00: 36 New
      0
      In fact, people knew the language, they knew customs. And yet ...
  20. Quiet
    Quiet 11 February 2013 19: 23 New
    +1
    Сейчас можно ЛЕГКО только в Москве сформировать не только мусульманский батальон но и дивизию а может и армию из гасторбайтеров !!!! . Только эти " вояки " не прибудут в пункт назначения !!! ОНИ РАЗБЕГУТСЯ ПО ПУТИ СЛЕДОВАНИЯ !!! lol Collect scrap !!! And they do not care that their fathers and grandfathers shed their blood when we all lived in the USSR ..... recourse
    1. Eugene
      Eugene 12 February 2013 00: 40 New
      0
      We, Crimea have so many Muslims. !! Since 43 years old! And nothing, faith has allowed them all. Motherland is one for all!
    2. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 12 February 2013 03: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Quiet
      Сейчас можно ЛЕГКО только в Москве сформировать не только мусульманский батальон но и дивизию а может и армию из гасторбайтеров !!!! . Только эти " вояки " не прибудут в пункт назначения !!! ОНИ РАЗБЕГУТСЯ ПО ПУТИ СЛЕДОВАНИЯ !!! lol Собирать лом !!! И им наплевать на то что их отцы и деды свою кровь проливали когда мы все жили в СССР ..... recourse

      Uzbek Tajiks may run away, and that is not a fact. but the Kyrgyz migrant workers will recapture as expected. they have the right military mentality.
    3. Jadid
      Jadid 3 February 2019 08: 25 New
      0
      господин Тихий, братья мусульмане никогда не забудут как их деды свою Родину СССР защищали и празновали вместе её, но к глубокому сожалению такие нацисты как Вы забыли про это и обзываете внуков и провнуком может и сыновей наших мусульманских дедов "гастарбайтерами". А насчет разбегутся, есть в каждой нации трусы и даже герои. Сейчас каждая страна столкнулось с такой нечестью как международный терроризм. И сей день у каждого народа есть свои герои и к величайшему сожалению трусы и бегуны. Так что тут конкретно про какую-то нацию говорить неправильно и большая ошибка.
      On February 2, 2019, Tashkent celebrated the 30th anniversary of the withdrawal; Afghans arrived from all the CIS countries, led by Lieutenant General Aushev.
      И как Вы думаете, что говорили настоящие участники "Шторма 333" и других афганских операции про братьяв мусульман, которые плечом к плечу вместе выполняли боевые задания вышестоящего командования????!!!!!
  21. Quiet
    Quiet 11 February 2013 19: 51 New
    +3
    News from a neighboring branch:
    The Taliban promised to kill NATO translators after the withdrawal of foreign forces from Afghanistan lol laughing wassat ... !!!!

    Видимо здорово накосячили НАТОвские " толмачи " с переводами !!!! , При Иване Грозном их в котле варили ( х/ф " Иван Васильевич меняет профессию ") ....
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 11 February 2013 19: 59 New
      +3
      Quote: Quiet
      kill NATO translators


      I would also be soaked for this. translator to that.

      It also has its own specific language group. Well, for example, a translator from Pashto or Farsi, and then a translator for that.
  22. Quiet
    Quiet 11 February 2013 20: 12 New
    +1
    I recommend reading on the next branch How Moscow saved Syria
    Амеры " повелись " на " утку " России и резко убрали свой флот , профукав этим заключительную часть операции по вторжению в Сирию !!! wassat

    Отдельное спасибо спецслужбам братской Украины за помощь в " дезе " !!!! good
  23. DDR
    DDR 11 February 2013 20: 17 New
    +3
    Guys on Friday is the anniversary of the CONCLUSION.
    Поздравляю ВСЕХ, ну и "ТРЕТИЙ" по обычаю.
  24. воронов
    воронов 11 February 2013 21: 37 New
    +3
    They did their job, honor and respect.
  25. uncle Vasya
    uncle Vasya 11 February 2013 22: 34 New
    0
    A question for connoisseurs: what kind of decree is the General Staff of the Turkestan Military District? And the second question: what kind of illegal KGB intelligence?
    1. Viktor123
      Viktor123 11 February 2013 23: 51 New
      +1
      Цитата: дядя Вася
      In order to conduct training firing, according to the Decree of the General Staff of the Turkestan Military District, the ranges of two military schools were allocated to the battalion
      ...Небольшая поправка: Указ - это государственный законодательный акт. В те времена Указы мог издавать только Президиум Верховного Совета СССР (естественно, что сейчас Указы издает Президент Российской Федерации). Отсюда следует, что был приказ Генерального Штаба ВС СССР о выделении полигонов для боевого обучения. Нелегальная разведка КГБ - это первое главное управление КГБ СССР. В настоящее время - Служба Внешней разведки РФ. И в заключении. Колесников не мог отбирать военнослужащих из пограничных войск, так как Пограничные войска структурно входили в систему КГБ СССР (сейчас они входят в ФСБ России и называется все это - Пограничная служба ФСБ России), у которых своя специфика и задачи. И никто, даже на самом "верху" не дал бы добро на отбор пограничников в "мусбат".
    2. Zynaps
      Zynaps 12 February 2013 03: 37 New
      0
      Цитата: дядя Вася
      Decree of the General Staff of Turkestan Military District?


      already funny. The General Staff is the brain center of the entire Soviet Army. in TurkVO, as in other districts, there was only the district headquarters. and not a decree, but an order. usually given to the troops of the district. something important was necessarily coordinated with Moscow.

      Цитата: дядя Вася
      And the second question: what kind of illegal KGB intelligence?


      this is PSU - the First Head Office of the KGB. under Yeltsin, she was torn out of the KGB and is now known as the SVR. the goal is to create secret residencies in countries of interest to the leadership. the residency includes both our scouts introduced and recruited agents from citizens of foreign countries.
  26. Eugene
    Eugene 12 February 2013 00: 45 New
    +2
    It seems that ours still got off cheaply, in due time. But the amers seem to have gotten along. One of their boss said correctly in Vietnam: Let us all say that we won and get out of here .....
  27. knn54
    knn54 12 February 2013 21: 28 New
    0
    I repeat, but the Defender of the Fatherland must have one faith-PATRIOTISM!
    For example, the Israeli armed forces also have two separate special forces consisting of Druze Muslims and Bedouins.
    The parachute commando reconnaissance unit Saeret Ha-Druzyim. During the war against the Palestinians, not a single soldier from this unit refused to participate in battles (with co-religionists).
    Saeret Ha-Bedouin serves along the southern border with Jordan and Egypt and counteracts the penetration of Hamas Islamists and arms smuggling.
  28. ko88
    ko88 13 February 2013 14: 54 New
    0
    I heard that in a limited contingent there were up to 60% of Muslims and other peoples.
  29. Jadid
    Jadid 3 February 2019 08: 14 New
    0
    Переправа была произведена в районе таджикского города Термез, почти в том самом месте, где полвека спустя советские саперы наведут наплавной мост для войск 40-й армии, вступавших в ДРА, чтобы стать "Ограниченным контингентом".

    Господин Каа, весь бывший Союз знает, что город Термез является узбекским городом, а если с точки зрения тех времен хотели сказать, то туркестанским. И после такой элементарной ошибки с трудом верится в Ваш "рассказ".

    Сейчас можно ЛЕГКО только в Москве сформировать не только мусульманский батальон но и дивизию а может и армию из гасторбайтеров !!!! . Только эти " вояки " не прибудут в пункт назначения !!! ОНИ РАЗБЕГУТСЯ ПО ПУТИ СЛЕДОВАНИЯ !!! lol Собирать лом !!! И им наплевать на то что их отцы и деды свою кровь проливали когда мы все жили в СССР.

    господин Тихий, братья мусульмане никогда не забудут как их деды свою Родину СССР защищали и празновали вместе её, но к глубокому сожалению такие нацисты как Вы забыли про это и обзываете внуков и провнуком может и сыновей наших мусульманских дедов "гастарбайтерами". А насчет разбегутся, есть в каждой нации трусы и даже герои. Сейчас каждая страна столкнулось с такой нечестью как международный терроризм. И сей день у каждого народа есть свои герои и к величайшему сожалению трусы и бегуны. Так что тут конкретно про какую-то нацию говорить неправильно и большая ошибка.
    On February 2, 2019, Tashkent celebrated the 30th anniversary of the withdrawal; Afghans arrived from all the CIS countries, led by Lieutenant General Aushev.
    И как Вы думаете, что говорили настоящие участники "Шторма 333" и других афганских операции про братьяв мусульман, которые плечом к плечу вместе выполняли боевые задания вышестоящего командования????!!!!!