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Oh, hard is the work of "Behemoth" to drag out of the swamp ...

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This year, the Polish Army will receive the first batch of 8x8 heavy vehicles (CPKTO 8X8) “Hippopotamus”. This is a vehicle created under a project funded from the resources of the Ministry of Science and Higher Education.

Created from scratch, without resorting to the existing chassis that was available in earlier developments of AMZ, that is, "Boar", "Turov" or "Bison". Vehicle with its own weight of about 21 tons, allowable curb weight, about 32 tons and tonnage up to 5 tons (and buoyancy with weight up to 26 tons!)

In general, we know little about the Polish military industry. For example, before the start of communication with the Polish military, I thought that all of their military-industrial complex had died, and they also “eat up” the remnants of the Soviet legacy. It turned out - this is not so, or rather not on all 100%. First, Poland, practically did not receive the Soviet weapons, and all released independently or imported from Czechoslovakia, so that the rupture of economic ties did not affect its defense industry. Another thing is a market economy and then joining NATO. The fact that Poland has always been to the West, and the blind was visible.

NATO "did not stint." Besides tanks, they were given as many as 25 BTR M113 of various modifications and 150 "Hamerov"! This is where the problems started ...
Poland itself did not produce armored personnel carriers, but exported OT-64 "SKOT" components from Czechoslovakia and assembled it in Poznan under the name "Lynx". This armored carrier has long been outdated and demanded replacement. But after the revolution (or perhaps the counter-revolution), Czechoslovakia stopped producing them, and then, following the division of the country, they were not at all interested in new projects. Although we must pay tribute - the Czech technology is slightly superior to the Soviet ancestors.



Therefore, Poland, which then lost practically the entire military industry, bought a license for the production of an armored personnel carrier Patria (I don’t know how it is in Finnish, but in Spanish it will be “Homeland”) and began to successfully rivet them under the name “Wolverine”. By this year, there are already more than four and a half hundred of them in the ranks.



So why do we need "Hippo"? The fact is that "Wolverine" was not suitable for engineering intelligence. According to logistics, a full set of technical intelligence required 2 "Lynx" or 1,5 "Wolverine" (like a half digger).

Its further design led to the fact that this armored personnel carrier can also be equipped with large-sized air defense systems and mine-protecting equipment, but what else!

Thanks to the use of the newly developed reservation (sub-corpus deflector), modern composites technologies, as well as individual protection systems, it should provide the crew with the highest possible degree of ballistic and mine protection.



The design of "Hippo" is characterized by versatility and the ability to quickly adapt the viscera, depending on the type of tasks that are performed. It should not be an alternative for “Wolverine” but its addition in areas that require specialized tasks, often heavy and requiring a large space for equipment.

Hippo has a total length of about 9,5 m, a height of 2,82 m, and a width of 2,88 m. For comparison, the "Wolverine" has a length of 7,77 m, a height of about 2,36 m and a width of 2,83 m.

The base chassis of the Hippopotamus will be equipped with a high mobility 8x8 chassis with two controlled bridges, the Deutz TCS 2015 V08 diesel engine with 600 power l / s provides torque within 2700 Nm. Box Allison 7-speed automatic. Its speed on the highway is 110 km / h.

The vehicle is equipped with ABS, a central wheel inflation system, anti-explosion tabs (for wheels with size 16.00 R20) as well as a winch.

The main vehicle body is made of armor steel with additional composite spaced armor. The level of ballistic protection at the level of class IV STANAG 4569 - that is, protects 90-% of the projection from being fired by 14,5 × 114 mm B32 armor-piercing bullets from the distance 200 m at speed 911 m / s. For self-defense, the BTR is equipped with an OBRSM ZSMU-1276C1 Kobuz controlled weapons module, as well as an ESP SSP-1 Obra (analogue of the Curtains) and 81-mm smoke grenade launchers. The vehicle must also be equipped with optical (day and thermal imaging cameras).



So why "work out of the swamp"? The fact is that the first prototype did not want to swim at all!

At first, it was possible to achieve buoyancy with a minimum weight of 22 tons and then at a speed of 4 km / h.

With the required weight of 26 tons, he provocatively sought to become a "submarine".

On the then stated regulatory 10 km / h on water - one could only dream of.

But the Poles still have good shipbuilders. Research related to the optimization of the hull structure of the hull with respect to buoyancy was carried out in collaboration with the shipbuilding industry design bureau - tests on the wave and calm water were carried out in the test pool of the Ocean Engineering and Shipbuilding Department of the Gdansk Polytechnic University.

It was possible to ensure the buoyancy by installing modules with gas, which automatically filled the cassette-cells with cavities located on the outer side of the hull. Be that as it may, Hippos began to “row” at a speed of 10 km / h not only in calm fresh water, but also to keep the 3-ball sea wave.











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  1. Akim
    11 February 2013 08: 52 New
    +1
    Instead of "Exported" should read “Imported” Note. Auth.
  2. Olego48
    Olego48 11 February 2013 08: 58 New
    12
    Well, Serdyukov was shot, otherwise he would have liked the pictures and we would have had a brigade in the Hippos.
  3. albert
    albert 11 February 2013 09: 11 New
    +7
    On such a target, even a child will not miss! laughing
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 11 February 2013 11: 57 New
      +4
      Dream grenade launcher laughing
      1. FATEMOGAN
        FATEMOGAN 11 February 2013 20: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: cth; fyn
        Dream grenade launcher

        the drovea has gorgeous glazing and not even tilted, her hands itch, run the stone laughing
        1. bask
          bask 18 February 2013 12: 54 New
          0
          Quote: FATEMOGAN
          drove gorgeous glazing and not even tilted, hands itch, it’s a stone to run
  4. AK-47
    AK-47 11 February 2013 09: 14 New
    +8
    In one of the photos there are 4 white armchairs? Or maybe it's the toilet, it seems.
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 11 February 2013 09: 28 New
      +5
      I’m also scratching turnips, there’s not enough glass table and bar ...
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 11 February 2013 09: 41 New
        +9
        This is a VIP BTR. Smolensk birches hint that Russia will never abandon its treacherous treason, and every Pole, from the homeless to the billionaire, should be ready to answer them.

        Glass table and bar will be. Just interior designers have not yet decided on the shades of materials. This is not nonsense to you; here you must act very thoughtfully.
        1. engineer74
          engineer74 11 February 2013 10: 00 New
          12
          New concept: deliver personnel to the place of death with maximum comfort.
        2. tuts
          tuts 11 February 2013 19: 17 New
          +2
          yeah also wanted to write some kind of armored limousine
          1. vikontas56
            vikontas56 12 February 2013 02: 42 New
            0
            Rather, an armored hearse! Yes, and very ugly! And as someone said, the beauty of a weapon is a well-defined functionality!
            1. bask
              bask 18 February 2013 13: 23 New
              0
              [img] http://rufor.org/showthread.php?t=7772 [/ img]
              Quote: vikontas56
              0








              Rather, an armored hearse! Yes, and very ugly! And as someone said, the beauty of a weapon is a well-defined functionality
        3. bask
          bask 18 February 2013 13: 21 New
          0
          [img] http://trucks.autoreview.ru/_archive/section/detail.php?ELEMENT_ID=119320&S
          ECTION_ID = 5905 [/ img]
          Quote: Spade
          Glass table and bar will be. Just interior designers have not yet decided on the shades of materials. This is not rubbish for you, here
        4. bask
          bask 18 February 2013 13: 47 New
          0
          Quote: Spade
          This is a VIP BTR. Smolensk birches hint that Russia will never leave its treacherous treason, and every Pole, from a homeless person
        5. bask
          bask 18 February 2013 14: 02 New
          0
          Quote: Spade
          VIP BTR. Smolensk birches hint that Russia will never abandon its treacherous treason, and every Pole, from the homeless to the billionaire, should be ready to answer them.
    2. Skavron
      Skavron 11 February 2013 11: 33 New
      +3
      Yes, the chairs smiled ... the secretary with a coffee maker is not enough.
    3. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 11 February 2013 16: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: AK-47
      In one of the photos there are 4 white armchairs?

      I also did not understand the interior with these 4th seats.
      1. 123dv
        123dv 11 February 2013 22: 48 New
        0
        What is not clear about the chairs is the new super-duper seats for damping a dynamic hit when undermining a mine. Vip.
        And simple potsan so, on benches, will sit down on the sides if Che.
  5. engineer74
    engineer74 11 February 2013 09: 55 New
    11
    Open hatches on photographs on the water, as if hinting at the crew’s doubts about his floating ... smile
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 11 February 2013 18: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: engineer74
      Open hatches on photographs on the water, as if hinting at the crew’s doubts about his floating ...

      No, they show that the crew has already left the car smile
      1. DuraLexSedLex.
        DuraLexSedLex. 11 February 2013 20: 25 New
        0
        Well, yes or so))) Maybe he was just towed to the place of filming, already without a crew)
      2. 123dv
        123dv 11 February 2013 22: 46 New
        0
        Vladimirets, Well done!
        I laughed !!! laughing
  6. Slevinst
    Slevinst 11 February 2013 10: 00 New
    +2
    I have a feeling that this is a miracle of technology in battle will immediately turn into a motionless standing shelter
  7. Nova
    Nova 11 February 2013 10: 01 New
    +8
    What a beautiful, comfortable, high board :) Fighters with RPGs will appreciate.

    And the elite-class armchairs made of leather, probably of an albino alligator, are especially delivered. And where is the stewardess?
    1. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 11 February 2013 12: 19 New
      +3
      So where (or how) you put this stewardess, dear Nova, so there she will sit and will ... wink laughing
  8. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 11 February 2013 10: 18 New
    10
    More than an amusing beast ... And by the way, no matter how you and I wouldn’t jerk there and not gnarish, but the Poles are still great. We must give them their due. They didn’t ditch the defense industry, they are looking for, they are creating, they are building ...
    And judging by the TTX given in the material, this "Hippopo" is quite successful. At least, what they wanted from him and what they laid in him, he does. Let this not be achieved right away ...
    And about the need for such an armored personnel carrier, one thing can be said - once it was blinded, then most likely it will come in handy in the future. Or those developments that were used in it will come in handy ...
    PS And the VIP-saloon looks nothing like that ... And to go fishing, but to nature under barbecue on such a “Behemoth” would be gorgeous ... The main thing, all in one - a car, a boat, and a tent ...
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 11 February 2013 11: 09 New
      +3
      And the size of the city bus ....
      You must be more modest ... wink
      1. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 11 February 2013 12: 11 New
        +2
        Dmitry, and I would have modestly traveled. hi Neatly so, not exceeding the speed limit, including turn signals ... bully Even a machine gun would take off ... repeat
        As for the dimensions ... So different deputy and other noble cartridges occupy much more space on the road than this "Gipoppotamka" ... wink
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 11 February 2013 12: 13 New
          +7
          Our analogue, KamAZ Triumph:



          On the one hand, ours does not swim, unlike the Pole, but on the other, it is better protected
          1. Chicot 1
            Chicot 1 11 February 2013 17: 53 New
            -1
            That's bad that does not swim. But then the boat will have to be dragged along with it, tinkering with it ... Yes, and there is absolutely nothing for me to protect it. I'm not going to fight with anyone ...
            So, “Triumph” will not suit me, but “Hippo” will be just right ... wink Such things, dear Lopatov.
            1. carbofo
              carbofo 13 February 2013 15: 42 New
              +1
              Chicot 1,
              In the USSR there were developments to ensure the individual buoyancy of any equipment, including tanks.
              So to attach a couple of pontoons on the sides of Kamaz is not a problem, here you have buoyancy.
        2. engineer74
          engineer74 11 February 2013 12: 34 New
          +1
          Vasily, were you going fishing? Instead of paths will you leave clearings? And from fish supervision, if you use unconventional fishing methods, masking is troublesome, although if you do not remove the machine gun ... hi
          1. Chicot 1
            Chicot 1 11 February 2013 18: 01 New
            +3
            Dmitry, why do I need alternative fishing methods if I have such an armored vehicle? .. wink Can’t you catch it? .. Well, it’s about the same, if you have a Gelentvagen, you will not go to the nearest market to buy it, but to rub a trifle in your pockets ...
            And with regards to glades ... Let them be. You see, they will come in handy in the future ... But I’ll take off a machine gun. Why draw. He lies in a drawer in the troop compartment. And it will rust less ... wink
            1. bask
              bask 11 February 2013 19: 15 New
              +1
              Quote: Chicot 1
              , and why would I need unconventional fishing methods if I have such an armored vehicle ?.

              Jokingly respected Chicot Poles created an excellent BTR machine. Strong and reliable. There are no rational angles of inclination of the armor. The only design is lame, But the old stuff was said about BTR-e..OT-64,, SKOT, length 7,44, 2,55..width-13 Armor 180mm. MTO in the SR-part of the body. The engine is a Tatra 60 l, forces a V-shaped air-cooled diesel engine. There is no comparison with our BTR-2 with its gasoline 6 engines. and booking of 64 mm. In OT-64 already in the year 10 aft entrance and XNUMX landing troops.
              1. Chicot 1
                Chicot 1 11 February 2013 20: 31 New
                +2
                Well, without jokes, somehow it’s also impossible, dear bask. winked
                But seriously, the Polish armored vehicle deserves attention, and I personally am quite nice ... As for the Czechs, they always managed to make good weapons, thoughtful, high-quality and functional. This cannot be taken away from them ...
                1. bask
                  bask 11 February 2013 21: 16 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Chicot 1
                  fled to make good weapons, thoughtful, high-quality and functional. This cannot be taken away from them

                  A small question if possible. As a specialist. Why not a single BTR-OT-64 was delivered to Afghanistan. Although our troops urgently needed this technique before the BTR-80 appeared. The elevation angle on the OT-64S2 was the elevation angle of the KPVT + 89 degrees. Despite all the integration and ,, Warsaw Pact ,,
                  1. Chicot 1
                    Chicot 1 12 February 2013 00: 41 New
                    +2
                    Of course, you went over to the expert’s account ... And therefore, as for your question, I can hardly answer it exactly. I will only suppose that they apparently considered that the BTR-60 / BTR-70 range available at that time would be more than enough ... If ever the question was raised in the Soviet military department about adopting (at least partially) the Czechoslovak armored personnel carrier ...
                    1. Akim
                      12 February 2013 00: 44 New
                      0
                      Chicot 1,
                      L-29 and L-39
                      1. Chicot 1
                        Chicot 1 12 February 2013 15: 10 New
                        +1
                        Akim,
                        But have L-29 and L-39 already become armored personnel carriers? .. wink
  9. Owl
    Owl 11 February 2013 10: 19 New
    +8
    On the positive side, one can note the location of hatches on the roof of the object, covering personnel when shooting or reviewing, from idiotic-European tendencies (probably due to police thinking) they are very “amused” by the lack of rational angles for tilting armor, the absence of loopholes for firing small arms landing, the driver’s glass without "cilia" and almost at right angles and (not counting the hatches on the roof of the hull) ONE landing point dismounting (aft door). I wish the Poles a peaceful sky.
  10. Predator-74
    Predator-74 11 February 2013 10: 39 New
    +2
    It is doubtful that at 600hp and such a mass of armor can develop such a speed (110km / h.).
    1. Nechai
      Nechai 11 February 2013 10: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: Predator-74
      It is doubtful that at 600hp and such a mass of armor can develop such a speed (110km / h.).

      It depends on how much time and on which autobahn it is used up. And no one says that he can keep the chi at a fast speed for a long time. It’s maximum and maximum. Reached and everything was blown away ...
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 11 February 2013 11: 15 New
        +2
        Armenian radio: Can Zaporozhets develop 200km / h?
        -Maybe if it is thrown off Mount Ararat.
        I remembered ...
    2. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 11 February 2013 19: 17 New
      +1
      How do transmission do. I hope it can. Then maybe on the autobahn and can swim. For dirt above the tread just can not. High-speed transmission - the end of patency. And vice versa...
    3. malkor
      malkor 14 February 2013 22: 31 New
      +1
      believe 600 horses, 26 tons will be freely dispersed to 110, but maybe more just hodovka will not make more
      240 horses our BTR80 with 13 tons are dispersed to 100 or more)))
  11. borisst64
    borisst64 11 February 2013 10: 43 New
    0
    It is difficult to find a more awkward technique.
  12. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 11 February 2013 10: 51 New
    +2
    Apparently the car is not for military use. Its purpose is to be a truck with armored protection, or a chassis for a control car for an air defense system, for example.
    She will carry goods in territories where it is unlikely, but still an attack by some partisans with “Berdanks” is likely
    To increase the interior space of the designer, they did not even bother with the installation of armored plates with a rational tilt.
    In short, lightly armored KUNG on a cross-country chassis.
    For this the Poles plus. And it doesn’t matter what is called an armored personnel carrier. The main thing is how it will be applied ...
    1. Akim
      11 February 2013 11: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: AlNikolaich
      And it doesn’t matter what is called an armored personnel carrier. The main thing is how it will be applied ...

      His name is "multi-purpose vehicle." It’s just that this year an option will come to the troops - an armored personnel carrier for engineering intelligence.
      1. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 11 February 2013 12: 15 New
        0
        Something like a MRAP truck.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 11 February 2013 12: 19 New
        +1
        Most likely he will go to the troops as a base for various kinds of KShMok and other special vehicles of this type.
        1. Akim
          11 February 2013 12: 29 New
          0
          Lopatov,
          I have already said in what capacity it comes this year. Can't believe it? Then welcome to the Polish sources.
          http://www.tvp.pl/publicystyka/tematyka-spoleczna/naszaarmiapl
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 11 February 2013 12: 43 New
            +2
            Why not believe it? This is in the article. Just what idiot would create a car exclusively for engineering intelligence?
            I think there will be other options. In any case, the Hippo is cheaper than the Wolverine, so the game is worth the candle.
            1. bask
              bask 11 February 2013 20: 41 New
              +2
              Quote: Spade
              Other options. "Hippo" is in any case cheaper than "Wolverine", so the game is worth the candle

              And the most important thing is developed and made. Based on its own Polish technologies. Any state that considers itself industrial. Wants to create its own weapons models. Even the Saudis sitting on the oil needle together with the amers created their own armored personnel carriers. Although they could stir up the world’s best-armored vehicle. AL FAHD AF-40.
  13. Misantrop
    Misantrop 11 February 2013 11: 03 New
    +2
    Quote: Predator-74
    at 600hp and such a mass of armor can develop such a speed (110km / h.).

    Downhill - easily wassat
    As a means of delivery, the police may well come in handy. Well, about intelligence - that's cool. Something like a pink elephant, just as comfortable and imperceptible. And with a single window in front. The placement of weapons is also extremely "successful" - dead zones (especially nearby) in bulk. Yes, the developers have complied with the requirements of the instigators, no one argues. It's just not clear what type of war these customers imagine ... request
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 11 February 2013 12: 18 New
      +2
      The slender ranks of political prisoners-punitive battles keep pace with the machine guns ... hostages of stereotypes.
  14. Alone
    Alone 11 February 2013 11: 05 New
    +1
    Stealth technology still remains to be used to covertly penetrate the enemy territory.
    1. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 11 February 2013 11: 27 New
      0
      Alone
      Quote: Alone
      Stealth technology still remains to apply
      Well, for animals, such as a hippopotamus, it is known - to walk in a swamp and only nostrils, eyes and ears above the surface and ... swim (!). By the way, IT does not sink wink
      As stated above
      Quote: Chicot 1
      but the Poles are still well done.

      That's just, really, with the "Hippo" -
      Quote: Eagle Owl
      I wish the Poles a peaceful sky.
      1. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 11 February 2013 12: 15 New
        +2
        But interesting, dear Z.A.M., how much would the tone of the comments in the subject have changed if such a Hippopotamus were released by our military-industrial complex? .. Or, for example, Belarusian? .. wink
        1. Z.A.M.
          Z.A.M. 11 February 2013 16: 10 New
          +1
          Chicot 1
          Quote: Chicot 1
          if a similar “Behemoth" would be released by our military industrial complex? ..

          There is such an anecdote: If I had a horse - it would be NUMBER, if I had a horse - I probably DID. wink
          If only we had bungled, and even with such a salon (with white armchairs) ... I don’t even know what to think request lol
          "... but the Poles are still good fellows. We must give them their due. They didn’t ditch the defense, they are looking for, they’re creating, they’re bringing ..." You wrote it, and I agree.
          1. Chicot 1
            Chicot 1 11 February 2013 18: 04 New
            +2
            About the horse it is certainly interesting ... Just what the hell is not joking? .. wink
  15. Grishka100watt
    Grishka100watt 11 February 2013 11: 13 New
    0
    What a devil bus)
  16. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 11 February 2013 12: 02 New
    +3
    The sleep of reason gives rise to monsters.
  17. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 11 February 2013 12: 09 New
    +1
    Surprised by the speed characteristics and approach to stability.
    According to the characteristics, it’s like a bomb in general, but as you look, you remember General Lee / Grant. It looks like a cool tank in terms of performance characteristics, but how do you look at Ept? belay
    and here is the same: Yopta belay what a healthy thing.
  18. Mr. Truth
    Mr. Truth 11 February 2013 13: 36 New
    0
    16.00 R20 - minimum 18.00 R20 necessary. Otherwise, the SUV.
  19. igordok
    igordok 11 February 2013 14: 14 New
    +2
    As in a joke:
    The hippo has poor eyesight. But, with his weight, this is not his problem.
  20. kotdavin4i
    kotdavin4i 11 February 2013 14: 39 New
    +3
    In the words of Zadornov: theirs was even YETTI from the Russian phrase: BIGGET WHAT A GREAT Fool WENT ..
    sorry for offtop.
  21. Blad_21617
    Blad_21617 11 February 2013 14: 53 New
    0
    this Polish army has always been odd ... either cavalry against Wehrmacht tanks ... then a 3-meter 22-ton squalor will create ... obviously compensates for the lack of size elsewhere ...
  22. USNik
    USNik 11 February 2013 15: 05 New
    0
    A vehicle with its own mass of about 21 tons, a permissible curb weight of about 32 tons and a cargo capacity of up to 5 tons (and buoyancy with a mass of up to 26 tons!)
    Something did not drive. Ie empty it without fuel, equipment, crew weighs 21t? 32 tons is the maximum allowable weight in general? those. 11 tone payload? If so, the machine is clearly overloaded, because the landing party + crew + shell will pull 3 tons, plus 2 more tons of fuel, and without a combat module, an armored personnel carrier is just an armored truck, it’s 3 tons more, and if you shove a load inside it and hang up additional armor ...
    1. Akim
      11 February 2013 15: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: USNik
      plus 2 more tons of fuel,

      In our tanks, only one and a half tons of solariums. At Hippo, everything is logical. A module with a 12,7 machine gun weighs 400 kg. Fuel is only 800 liters = about 600 kg and three tons of net weight when it can still swim. Although in reality it is kept on water and at 30 tons of weight.
      1. bask
        bask 11 February 2013 19: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: Akim
        otya in reality, he is kept on water and at 30 tons of weight.

        That's it. 30 tons, kept on the water. German ,, Boxser ,, 32 tons and buoyancy is not a word.
        1. Akim
          11 February 2013 20: 41 New
          +1
          bask,
          The GTK Boxer has completely different sizes and body designs. 4 additional tons of weight - this is not the norm, but a peak that should not be allowed, but the reserve should be pledged.
          1. bask
            bask 11 February 2013 21: 25 New
            0
            Quote: Akim
            reserve must be pledged

            Reserve. Agreed. I spoke of Wed. the location of the MTO as the most rational. The design should be simple and technologically advanced. Rectangular, without tilt angles. The maximum use of usable space in the BTR-re. And the hinged DZ will give the necessary effect against RPGs. Only about mine protection in the article is not a word. A it is now, those ... requirement No. 1 for such machines.
            1. Akim
              11 February 2013 22: 02 New
              +1
              Thanks to the use of the newly developed reservation (sub-corpus deflector), modern composites technologies, as well as individual protection systems, it should provide the crew with the highest possible degree of ballistic and mine protection.

              Do not lead people astray. I wrote about this. Unfortunately, there is no more information.
  23. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 11 February 2013 17: 02 New
    0
    The guys did a good job, they extended the hippopotamus. On the other hand, the machine is so-so, 14.5 x 114, as I understand it, I mean the shelling from the KPVT from a distance of 200m ... purely my opinion should have taken into account the shelling from a 30 mm gun.
  24. nnz226
    nnz226 11 February 2013 17: 20 New
    0
    Mdaaaa .... and Pshek checked this tool for resistance to shelling from different weapons? After all, such a big target ...
  25. Andrey77
    Andrey77 11 February 2013 17: 50 New
    0
    Why does Poland need APCs floating? Does Poland have at least one landing ship? Dumb assimilation of money, IMHO.
    1. bask
      bask 11 February 2013 19: 28 New
      +3
      Quote: Andrey77
      than Poland floating armored personnel carriers? At

      BTR-82, this is stupid use of money .. BTR-90, Rostock ,, is a step in the development of BTR-in Russia, taking into account the Afghan and Chechen wars. And that was done without a stern entrance. SRKTO 8/8 .. Hippo ,, "26 tons and floating. The main simple design. The average MTO location seems to me the most rational. BTR ,, Pars ,, Turkey is the same tag. Average MTO location is. A good weight distribution of the BTR. Example of our MT-LB ,,, Typhoons ,,
  26. Grishka100watt
    Grishka100watt 11 February 2013 20: 33 New
    -1
    In the center of the steering wheel an oval is missing wink
  27. 77bor1973
    77bor1973 11 February 2013 21: 57 New
    0
    And I liked the “Hippos”, modify it a bit to put weapons and an excellent car for the Marine Corps will come out. I just don’t understand what the fuck the Poles are for - for engineering intelligence, something simpler is also possible.
  28. understudy
    understudy 12 February 2013 02: 44 New
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    As there the Black Cloak said ... "I am a terror flying on the wings of the night!" Well, this hippo is too big.
  29. GOLUBENKO
    GOLUBENKO 12 February 2013 04: 30 New
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    This year, the Polish Army will receive the first batch of heavy wheeled floating armored personnel carriers 8x8 (CPKTO 8x8) "Hippo"

    On the "fat" BAZ-5937 looks like something.
  30. malkor
    malkor 14 February 2013 22: 43 New
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    machine like a machine, they would have burned them in the formidable, they would have shouted shit, brought into Iraq at a distance of 10 km to the point of contact with the enemy - good, Real combat use will come out like this machine in practice. The experience of fighting tells the more universal the armored personnel carrier the better.
    my opinion is that this model is good as an armored personnel carrier, but it’s better not to use it as a bmp.
    carry soldiers and corpses her mission
    1. Akim
      15 February 2013 09: 55 New
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      Quote: malkor
      my opinion is that this model is good as an armored personnel carrier, but it’s better not to use it as a bmp.

      He will not even be used as front-line armored vehicles. So, carry equipment on it and use it on minor sites.