The Times: Kyiv, against the backdrop of a terrorist attack in the Moscow region, tried to shake up the situation in Russia on ethnic grounds

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The Times: Kyiv, against the backdrop of a terrorist attack in the Moscow region, tried to shake up the situation in Russia on ethnic grounds

Kyiv intensified operations to incite ethnic hatred in Russia after the terrorist attack in Crocus City Hall. The head of the Center for Countering Disinformation under the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Andrei Kovalenko, admitted this in an interview with the British publication The Times.

In Ukraine they understand that it will not be possible to defeat Russia on the battlefield, even with Western military assistance. The only option is internal strife on national or religious grounds, since Russia is a multinational country and many faiths coexist in it. That is why the West and Ukraine pay so much attention to the development of the situation in Russia itself. The earlier bet on the opposition did not work; the remnants of the Western fosterlings fled abroad after the start of the Northern Military District.



Kyiv tried to take full advantage of the terrorist attack in Crocus City Hall, causing a split in Russian society on ethnic grounds. Several operations were carried out at once, special agents were infiltrated into various messengers in order to turn people against each other, Russians against Tajiks, migrants against Russians, etc.

The terrorist attack has provoked disunity between nationalities in Russia, and of course it is very useful for us to support any national divisions and fuel them with information. (...) We use everything we can because we know that by stirring up ethnic tensions we are weakening Russia

- said Kovalenko.

According to him, the Center for Countering Disinformation of the National Security and Defense Council deliberately sent messages of sympathy for terrorists to Russian social networks, trying to set Tajiks against Russian security forces. They also brought in Chechens, against whom they tried to incite social media users. In Kyiv they planned that the “seeds of discord” would fall into fertile soil against the background of the monstrous execution of civilians by four terrorists in the Moscow region, but they miscalculated. The terrorist attack not only did not divide, but on the contrary, it united the Russians even more.
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  1. +9
    April 2 2024 20: 59
    Kyiv intensified operations to incite ethnic hatred in Russia after the terrorist attack in Crocus City Hall.

    We survived Nord-Ost and Beslan and won!!! We will survive Crocus City, we will unite and win again!!!
  2. 0
    April 2 2024 21: 00
    When will they admit that the terrorist attack is also their doing?
    1. +1
      April 2 2024 21: 21
      Quote from alexoff
      When will they admit that the terrorist attack is also their doing?

      Is there any doubt?
      1. +1
        April 2 2024 21: 35
        No, of course, but you always want to hear a confession before sending a suspect to Anubis
      2. +3
        April 2 2024 21: 58
        Is there any doubt?

        Of course, dear Elena hi, there can be no doubt. Especially when you consider all the events during and before the ELECTIONS. After all, no one died only thanks to the work of our special services. In Samara, it’s true that the terrorist himself blew himself up, apparently during his arrest, a homosexual activist, under 30.
        Or in the Khabarovsk Territory. The couple, he ---- more than 60 years old, was an official (???!!!), she ---- over 50, was in the amateur Ministry of Internal Affairs, led. What’s interesting is that it turns out that there were a lot of Ukrainian organizations there, supposedly amateur activities.....??? Where else are they available? What are they doing? These spouses were carrying a lot of explosives. Blow up the bridge over the Amur.
        1. +1
          April 2 2024 22: 24
          Quote: Reptiloid
          What’s interesting is that it turns out that there were a lot of Ukrainian organizations there, supposedly amateur activities.....??? Where else are they available? What are they doing?

          In fact, many schools and gymnasiums in the Russian Federation were ordered to provide assistance...Do you remember how in Ukraine they shouted that the Russians do not give the opportunity to study in their native language to Ukrainians? Since it was not possible to open a school with the Ukrainian language of instruction (there simply weren’t that many children), then at least amateur activity groups and study of the Ukrainian language were encouraged.
          1. +5
            April 2 2024 22: 33
            I understand that these were all amateur adults. Dances, songs..... with these nationalities, it seems, they are facing the same rake now as under the USSR.
            About 3 years ago, some non-Baltic woman in the Krasnoyarsk Territory organized a group for children to study their language.... And then it turned out that they were against the state and pro-fascist.
            1. +1
              April 3 2024 12: 56
              So if the circle is not allowed to open, then the same citizens will conduct their subversive activities from their home
              1. 0
                April 3 2024 13: 39
                As for the Baltic states, this was before the Northern Military District, there were reports in the newspapers in the fall, there was nothing about terrorism, the teacher of Estonian and English taught from books where Nazi children “zigged” Kartuz district of the Krasnoyarsk Territory, the village of Verkhniy Suetuk. Founded in 1851 by exiled Estonians . She showed Crimea as Ukraine. The parents signaled. About 20 children studied there and it turned out that Estonian sponsors and propagandists of Nazism often came. No matter how much I looked yesterday, I couldn’t find what they did with that teacher. It's a shame if they just kicked me out.
                And as for the trans-Ukrainians, there are so many circles there and what a coverage! Let them sit at home under surveillance. But it’s better to go to prisons and exile. I remembered what I read in the TOMORROW newspaper in March, but didn’t look for it again
                1. +1
                  April 3 2024 14: 57
                  So, as long as they don’t fight with sponsors and highly paid propagandists, there will be little use. Nevzorov probably still gets a lot of money from St. Petersburg
                  1. 0
                    April 3 2024 16: 08
                    I don’t know about Nevzorov, but entire channels along with the presenters need am am reset.
    2. 0
      April 3 2024 07: 19
      It’s not their idea, maybe they helped somewhere. Their maximum is to hammer through cities and blow up bridges, and to work so subtly... Find people who can be used for this, in fact they were suicide bombers. Think about the action itself. Pour into the ears of these morons that they will be able to go somewhere after this. Looks more like the Britons or the CIA.
  3. +21
    April 2 2024 21: 10
    Russians against Tajiks, migrants against Russians

    In my opinion, there is no need for any type of special operations here; migrants themselves cope with this very well. Without any outside help.
    1. +3
      April 3 2024 08: 18
      I’ll add: and the indifference of our police! “When they kill you then come!”
  4. Msi
    +6
    April 2 2024 21: 14
    Several operations were carried out at once, special agents were embedded in various instant messengers in order to turn people against each other,

    Yes, they have been embedded in our messenger called forum for a long time. They rumbled here for several days... And even now they periodically rumble, forum users from Ukraine, masquerading as Russians...
  5. 0
    April 2 2024 21: 21
    And here these figures are trying with all their might laughing
    1. +3
      April 2 2024 21: 46
      Quote: Warabey
      And here these figures are trying with all their might

      And they will continue to try. It is difficult to find more “concerned Russians” than these figures. They bend over backwards to direct the discussion of the topic in the direction of their guidelines.Yes
      1. +1
        April 2 2024 21: 53
        So they are already in this topic, again trying to continue trying. laughing In general, their command resembles cockroaches))
    2. +1
      April 3 2024 10: 46
      Quote: Warabey
      And here these figures are trying with all their might

      Well done, guards. Now, according to your flawed logic, everyone who is dissatisfied with migration policy can be enrolled in TsIPSO. Dissatisfaction with migrants began not after Crocus, but much earlier.
      What does the multinationality of Russia and migrants from Central Asia have to do with it? They have their own countries, which, for a moment, are practically mononational, and from which Russian speakers were expelled at one time. Anyone who does not like playing with one multinational goal is not necessarily a TsIPSO player.
      1. -1
        April 3 2024 10: 49
        We are not talking about those who don’t like it, but about those who constantly talk about it without stopping. And that’s exactly what’s going on.
        p.s. And, by the way, the term “guardians” was coined by the cypsos.
        1. +2
          April 3 2024 10: 52
          Or maybe this is one of the residents, for example, of Kotelnikov, who daily encounters the “friendship of peoples”? As an option. Or do you think that there should be a certain limit on dissatisfaction with migrants? If so, how often do you think you can express your dissatisfaction with visitors?
          1. -1
            April 3 2024 10: 55
            I also have questions for you. Do you think that ciphers don’t work on Russian-language resources? And if they work, then what do they write on these resources - “Glory to Ukraine”?
            1. +1
              April 3 2024 11: 02
              Quote: Warabey
              Do you think that ciphers don’t work on Russian-language resources?

              Logically, they work. But not everyone who disagrees with migration policy is necessarily a sissy. We need to separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. And you paint everyone with the same brush.
              Quote: Warabey
              By the way, the term “guardians” was coined by the cypsos.

              There are different versions of the origin of this term.
              GUARDIANS, the name of the ideological and political movement of the 60-80s of the XNUMXth century. The word “guardians” itself is a literal translation of the Latin word “conservatives,” although the Russian guardians differed fundamentally from similar Western political movements in many ways.
              1. 0
                April 3 2024 11: 10
                ""According to the logic of things, they work. But not everyone who disagrees with migration policy is necessarily a sissy. We need to separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. And you paint everyone with the same brush."

                Again. We are not talking about those who disagree with the policy, but about those whose lion's share of messages consists of “indignation” about migration policy, about the shitty leadership, about the stupidity of the command, and so on. They write only in this way. Such people can be redeemed very simply - just read their messages. This is nothing more than an attempt to form an opinion about how bad everything is in Russia. And it is precisely these people that I mean, and not everyone “one size fits all,” as you claim.
                1. 0
                  April 3 2024 11: 19
                  Quote: Warabey
                  And these are the people I mean, and not everyone “one size fits all”

                  You don't specify what specific people you mean. You write: “these”, “they”. God knows who “these” and “they” are. It seems that “they” are everyone who is dissatisfied with migrants. And is it surprising that such comments are written in an article concerning migrants? Now, if in an article about aviation, for example, someone began to be indignant, that would be a different matter.
                  1. 0
                    April 3 2024 11: 28
                    I was responding to a person who also perfectly understands which characters, how they behave here and for what reason. After all, the article is precisely about who and how is stirring up the interethnic conflict in Russia. Therefore, people mean those who have the majority of comments lately, just for this.
                    And, by the way, many of these characters are trying to twist their teachings not even into the topic of the issue being discussed. It’s just another time to “smash the truth for the idiots,” as they call it.
  6. 0
    April 2 2024 21: 24
    The National Security and Defense Council specifically sent messages of sympathy for terrorists to Russian social networks

    Speculating on the blood of civilians who died for nothing is disgusting
    ... with the aim of turning people against each other, Russians vs Tajiks, migrants against Russians, etc.

    But here, hand on heart, we must admit that it almost worked out
    I have not seen such a wave of hatred on social networks towards people from other republics, probably since the times of Dudayev/Raduev
    I hope time will put everything in its place
    My condolences to all the families of the victims and unwitting participants in the events...
    1. +6
      April 2 2024 22: 01
      Quote from sdivt
      But here, hand on heart, we must admit that it almost worked out
      I have not seen such a wave of hatred on social networks towards people from other republics, probably since the times of Dudayev/Raduev
      And what was discussed in the next thread (explosives in icons) is part of this plan.
      For Easter icons - blame Muslims.
      And our special services should be very, very active now - in just a week, on April 10, Eid al-Fitr. The explosion in the mosque, organized by the SBU and presented as “revenge for Crocus,” may also be part of the same plan to drive a wedge.
      And June is still ahead, Eid al-Adha is also a crowded thing. I myself go to watch wrestling every year; my Tatar friends invite me.

      So there will be vacillation on religious and national grounds. Only they didn’t invent it themselves at Bankova. One can feel the experienced, well-practised hand of the Master of Ukraine.
      1. Msi
        +5
        April 2 2024 22: 03
        And what was discussed in the next thread (explosives in icons) is part of this plan

        What do you think of the alleged drone strike from Kazakhstan? And the interethnic issue is touched upon and they quarrel with Kazakhstan...
        1. +1
          April 2 2024 22: 43
          Quote from Msi
          And what was discussed in the next thread (explosives in icons) is part of this plan

          What do you think of the alleged drone strike from Kazakhstan? And the interethnic issue is touched upon and they quarrel with Kazakhstan...

          Also from the same manual...
          In Ukraine, the West has stopped talking, they are switching to Central Asia. They want to win by quantity of fires, not by quality.
        2. +1
          April 3 2024 05: 20
          So this idea was suggested by Russian State Duma deputy Gurulev...
  7. +15
    April 2 2024 21: 24
    Before the terrorist attack, did migrants behave like law-abiding citizens?
    1. +5
      April 3 2024 08: 25
      And the authorities justified their outrages: they beat up a man in St. Petersburg in the San-Gali garden, so they were charged with being a hooligan, like the man himself died of a heart attack. People don't see this? Doesn't it bother them? Why anger people with your actions out of nowhere, justifying the frankly ugly actions of migrants. Oh, crime has no nationality, let's not talk about the nationality of criminals... Are people eyeless sheep? Don't they see all the outrages that are happening around them?
  8. +3
    April 2 2024 21: 29
    On the Internet resource "Fontanka" in the comments, just in recent months there has been a new topic, just from the series of inciting ethnic hatred, camouflaged, with understandable but not prohibited epithets, so that the comment is not deleted.
    There has long been a hotbed of tsipso, and the editors don’t mind if there is no formal reason.
    1. 0
      April 2 2024 21: 54
      Quote from vicvic
      On the Internet resource "Fontanka"

      On many public pages, where a fairly large number of commentators gather, these “sent Cossacks” are always present. They don’t seem to be directly campaigning for anything, but between the lines the direction of the text can be seen absolutely clearly. This is especially noticeable to those who have already learned to recognize the handwriting of the work of such creatures.
      1. +1
        April 2 2024 22: 49
        Yes, that's right, just Fontanka, a large, well-known publication that previously had a good reputation for a long time.
  9. 0
    April 2 2024 21: 32
    Well, the people in Russia are smart, everyone immediately understood why they brought ISIS here - they were counting on mugs, only we, hardened by perestroika, vouchers and other crap, you can’t fool us with chaff!
  10. 0
    April 2 2024 21: 35
    In fact, the head of the Center for Combating Disinformation under the National Security and Defense Council, Kovalenko, is right in some ways, split or not split, hatred or xenophobia have long occupied Russian messengers, sites and platforms.
    Citizens of Ukraine, not necessarily Ukrainians by nationality! or Tajiks with Uzbeks and Georgians... okay, migrants, but in fact, the citizens of the Russian Federation themselves could be caught in the middle of another propaganda company, not to mention their closest allies.
    Here the local inhabitants, of course, will immediately be indignant and begin to furiously minus laughing but 90% here simply have a short memory, and the rest prefer not to remember the Belarusians, who were called names 3-4 years ago, when relations with the Old Man were spoiled, about comrades from the Caucasus, Chechens or Dagestanis, who until recently were smeared with exclusively black paint !
    In my opinion, the only unproblematic ones in this regard on the territory of the former USSR are only Belarus and Uzbekistan; the rest have interethnic strife and fuss in one form or another.
    1. +1
      April 2 2024 22: 34
      only Belarus and Uzbekistan remain on the territory of the former USSR; the rest have interethnic strife and vanity in one form or another

      There were interethnic pogroms in Uzbekistan even under the Union, in Fergana, for example.
      1. 0
        April 2 2024 23: 34
        There were, this is a fact, but under Karimov, almost all the radicals and ruffians were crushed. Now, under the new President, the same policy is being pursued, although they are accused of a lack of democracy....
  11. +10
    April 2 2024 21: 45
    All this was already done before the SVO. The only caveat is that it was not with the support of the enemy, the situation with migrants arose, but our own people created it. The enemy only used what was handed to him on a silver platter. request
  12. +3
    April 2 2024 21: 58
    - Yeah... The problem is already visible even from Kyiv!
  13. +2
    April 2 2024 22: 15
    Just today I personally came across it in the Ufa TG channel. Like I’m an Azerbaijani, we all condemn Russian aggression. Burned, wrote In Ukraine)))
    1. +1
      April 2 2024 22: 53
      I had to answer him. We all condemn Bandera’s aggression in and especially against Ukraine.
  14. +3
    April 2 2024 22: 28
    Yeah, that means the uncontrolled import of specific migrants has no significance for the situation, it’s all just rocking the boat...
    1. 0
      April 2 2024 22: 54
      Of course it does, it’s just that the enemy skillfully takes advantage of the situation
      1. +2
        April 2 2024 22: 56
        Of course it has

        It seems like someone really wants to convince you otherwise
  15. +1
    April 2 2024 22: 39
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    they will sway on religious and national grounds. Only they didn’t invent it themselves at Bankova. You can feel the experienced, well-practised hand of the Master of Ukraine

    As they say, forewarned is forearmed
    I hope that our special services do not eat their bread in vain, this is their sphere, they will sort it out
    By the way, the idea is not new.
    Since the time of the possessed Fuhrer, and his propaganda, we remember?
    "USSR - an ear of clay with feet of clay"
    Nothing, we rallied and persevered. The country was raised.
    But the golden calf of the nineties brought us down, everything fell apart

    And yes, regarding the owner... what can we really do about it today? Drop an atomic bomb on Washington, as some unencumbered people write here?
    1. 0
      April 2 2024 22: 46
      Quote from sdivt
      What can we really do about it today? Drop an atomic bomb on Washington, as some unencumbered people write here?

      Send a note to Macron, for example. Like, the French will be in Ukraine, so we’ll demolish their stadiums BEFORE the Olympics, before the guests and teams arrive. And how he would get out with his statements. )))
  16. +1
    April 2 2024 22: 53
    Ce Mr Kovalenko confirme par ses propos ce que j'écrivais le 22 03 au soir :
    "Diviser pour régner.
    Ceux qui ont organisé cet atte tats veulent créer des fractures dans la société Russe"
    Et certains intervenants ici (Ukrainiens ? Russes?) Poussaient dans ce sens : agrandir la fissure.. .
    Les éventuels problèmes internes ne pourront être pris en compte qu'après la 'victoire' les amplifier mainte ant ce serait perdre cette guerre.
  17. 0
    April 2 2024 23: 03
    Le titre de ce monsieur est en contradiction avec ce qu il annonce :-)
    "Lutte contre la désinformation" et en même temps il se vante d'inonder les réseaux sociaux Russe de 'rumeurs' pour créer des problèmes internes ..
    En France nous avons un 'specialiste' qui intervient beaucoup sur lci et co ( un certain Thytelman, oui celui qui annoncai : fin mars 2022 la Russie n'aurait plus de missiles ...)
    Sur le curriculum vitæ il ya une info révélatrice "gestion de l'information en temps de crise".... une manière démocratique d'écrire : propagande, mensonges, manipulation ...rayez la mention inutile ou laissez les toutes :-)
    1. -1
      April 3 2024 05: 25
      This is a Russian resource... Write in Russian.
      1. +1
        April 3 2024 20: 27
        - D.M.?! MYSELF?! This can't be true...
        1. +2
          April 3 2024 20: 36
          The ways of DAM are mysterious... laughing hi
  18. +1
    April 3 2024 00: 34
    Wise and worthy gentlemen are reflecting on the topic of inciting ethnic conflict with the help of tsipso and agents of the West, although one of the most discussed topics by these gentlemen was: migration and what to do with it, as well as proposals to make migration on a rotational basis. Dear gentlemen, spin like a weather vane, where the wind blows, that’s where your ass goes. laughing
    1. -1
      April 3 2024 10: 31
      Controlled migration is the natural state of affairs. And the Ukrainians have been escalating the interethnic conflict for a long time. Now they are hiding behind Islamic organizations to carry out terrorist attacks. The gentlemen's weather vane turns where it should, and not where the white gentleman from overseas will point. good
  19. 0
    April 3 2024 02: 22
    I can’t understand the rhetoric, if a person believes that there is a problem with migrants in the Russian Federation, is he Ukrainian?
    1. +4
      April 3 2024 02: 24
      After all, I wrote “х0х0л”, no, they corrected my comment to the tolerant “Ukrainian”. Ugh, trash.
  20. +4
    April 3 2024 06: 20
    Migration policy in Russia is not led by Bankova or Potomac; in Chelyabinsk, it is not the London High Court that gives ridiculous sentences for murder.
  21. 0
    April 3 2024 10: 32
    The terrorist attack not only did not divide, it, on the contrary, united the Russians even more
    Has it united Russians with each other? Or Russians with migrants... There is one problem here; in order to unite, you need to understand what it is. It’s interesting: we don’t only have migrants from Central Asia. There are a lot of the same Chinese. Why are they silent about them, or maybe because they respect our traditions and laws more? Or not? And for unity, it seems to me that we need to produce as many translators as possible from Tajik, Kyrgyz, etc. Well, in order to understand each other.