Russia is preparing for the wars of the past

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For the lack of military science, the army pays blood and defeat.

After a certain breakthrough caused by the need to comprehend the combat experience of the Second World War and the emergence weapons mass destruction, the domestic military thought departed from the study and development of the fundamentals of military affairs. Today it is dead: its Soviet variety is finished, and the Russian version is not being created.

Our time every day, if not every hour, confirms: war is not “when guns are firing,” but when stories entire nations disappear, states arise and collapse. The world is already at war - brutally, on a large scale and by no means only "tanks". The field for the development of military science as the only synthetic social science capable of embracing the totality of the problems of the existence of powers is enormous today.

Causes and effects of the disaster

Among the main reasons for the catastrophic state of affairs with national military thought is the absence of a clearly formulated order of the highest state power of Russia and the high command of its Armed Forces for the theoretical elaboration of a strategic plan. Affects the lack of an independent expert body. Such an institution or center should receive orders for the development of scientific problems of a strategic nature, as well as have sufficient financial resources to formulate problems, order their development and conduct independent scientific activities. Such an expert body should be in the content of the Ministry of Defense or the Security Council of the Russian Federation and report exclusively to them.

Russia is preparing for the wars of the pastHinders the development of Russian military thought and the lack of adequate funding, the habit of "intellectual freebies." The resource of specialists capable of realizing the problem, articulating it clearly and proposing its own solution is almost exhausted. We need people who are able to defend their opinions in discussions and under pressure from the authority of "stars and epaulets."

National mechanisms for assessing and implementing the theories of the general strategic level do not work today. And finally, a significant number of representatives of the high command of the Armed Forces have no interest in military science.

It seems that the top leadership of the state and much of the top commanders of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are not aware of the state in which Russia and its army are being.

As a result of this catastrophe, the most important issues of state and military construction remained outside the study of modern military science. Our military thought did not offer the state a clear model of a unified system of government in peacetime and wartime, or algorithms for the transition from one state to another.

All the so-called structural changes in the Armed Forces are born exclusively in the highest offices of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff. Without any scientific substantiation and independent examination.

Not made any important scientifically based proposals and the structure of the Ministry of Defense. The real separation of the rights and duties of the Ministry of Defense staff and the General Staff is superficial.

Structural leapfrog in the higher echelons of the army, “permanent military reform” reduces the prestige of military service, narrows the rights of the officer corps, plunging it into real poverty. All this leads to negative personnel selection and disintegration of the professional fabric of the army.

The army must be unequivocally withdrawn from the system of market relations. It is obliged to receive all the benefits from the market, without being its subject.

Military science does not develop an extremely important problem of the objective justification of the system and the specific financial content of the military personnel, based on the criteria of their labor costs, time and conditions of military service, its quality and condition. The army is waiting for alms from power. And the appointment of official salaries, and in general, the monetary support of servicemen are criminal, humiliating, since they are determined by the state voluntarily. According to the formula "three P": "finger-floor-ceiling."

Continuity and information support system

Loss of knowledge and experience in managing battle, battle and war in general. The overwhelming majority of officers of the tactical and operational units do not have their own combat experience, personal experience in organizing and conducting combat shooting exercises. Higher commanders are increasingly losing their skills in organizing and conducting large-scale exercises, maneuvers, and military strategy games. Soon in the army, no one and nothing will be able to do except reports, organizing shows, parades, and participation in minor skirmishes, sweeps and counter-terrorist operations.

It is vital to train the officer corps, including the top commanders of the Armed Forces of Russia, and the top leadership of the state, the methods, techniques, and skills of organizing large-scale and complex combined-arms and state military activities that the generation of modern veterans so brilliantly owned, that is, senior officers and stock generals laid off during the last ten years of "democratic" wave.

In divisions, corps, armies, military districts, military educational institutions, it is necessary to create regular methodological councils on combat (operational) training, and under the president and the government of Russia - a council on strategic training of the state.

All competent and experienced veterans living in these areas should be involved in the work of these councils in a regular capacity.

It is imperative that for the duration of this work they can be called up from the reserve and receive a monetary allowance. The Academy of Military Sciences of the Ministry of Defense in its new status, the Assistant Minister of Defense of Russia for Science and, of course, the General Staff should deal with this.

The officer corps is “wild”: they hardly read professional and just good literature. The impoverished maintenance of officers and military high schools does not allow to write out neither professional Russian, and especially foreign magazines. Major military libraries are not available. The libraries in the garrisons and units are in a pitiful state. The military libraries of leading academies are not digitized, the library of the General Staff does not have its own premises. The Military Encyclopedic Dictionary and the Military Encyclopedia are not digitized.

The formation of a national public military library based on modern digital media and the Internet, that is, available at every university, garrison and unit, is an important part of military science and educational work.

It is necessary to restore the system of publications of military scientific works on a wide range of problems and to have for this purpose a special publication (for example, the “Bulletin of the Public Military Expert Council”), as well as to create a Center for Military Domestic Studies.

Russian military thought should move to a new modern information support system and be based on the Unified Information Scientific Network of all libraries, military education institutions, science and archives with access to an information bank created under the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces or a special fund, and with access to such national information networks of the leading states of the world.

It is necessary to equip all military universities and libraries with the Internet as a priority. And of course, one should not forget about independent work, study and military-scientific creativity of the officer corps. The officers 'self-training should become an integral part of his combat and operational training and part of the officers' daily life in the units and garrisons.

Institutional aspect of the problem

Military-scientific work should be actively pursued not only in the staff structures of the General Staff and military schools, but also in public organizations, independent expert structures and institutions and supported by the activities of an independent Public Military Expert Council, supervised by the Security Council or even the President of Russia.

Serious scientific work can only be successful if there is a centralized control of military science. This implies the existence of a state order for the development of scientific problems - a kind of “Gosplan” and “State order”, as well as a professional “State reception” of research. Which in turn implies its “Gossnab”, that is, guaranteed payment for scientific work and the whole system of its stimulation.

One of the most dangerous negative factors of modern military and state construction is the lack of real and effective mechanisms for evaluating the proposed theoretical searches and their implementation.

There are almost no specialists left in the Ministry of Defense and even in the General Staff capable of professionally and strategically evaluating and analyzing the proposed expert studies of a general strategic nature, as well as making their own correct professional judgment. At the same time, they all look at their direct superiors, who for various reasons know the subject even worse. Those who make major decisions do not personally meet with the carriers of ideas and authors of theories, which means they depend on the opinions of their incompetent performers. The practice of making essential decisions through meaningless and endless approvals does not just lead any decision or theory to its exact opposite, but also removes all personal responsibility from the participants of these decisions. And finally, no one is responsible for the implementation of the decision entirely and does not track the course of their execution in a planned and daily manner.

In the field of military science, there is practically no search for new ideas and their talented authors. They are not given opportunities for work, creativity and practical realization of ideas in the interests of Russia and its Armed Forces.

“The search for talented people,” writes outstanding Russian scientist Vladimir Rubanov, “needs to be actively pursued, and not expect applications for a commercially profitable and at the same time non-risky project. Global bounty hunters select talents based on original publications, bright presentations at seminars, etc. So intellectual cream is removed even before they are ready to create project teams. ”

In the field of military science, things are getting worse a hundred times. For any idea other than direct prohibitions on “dissent”, there is a system of official filters, which leads to the practical destruction of both new ideas and their talented authors.

In order for the Russian military thought to come out of a state of coma, serious institutional changes are needed. It is necessary to decide on the creation within the Presidium of the RAS of the Council on the problems of war and peace and a separate direction of academic (fundamental) research in the field of military affairs.

The Minister of Defense should introduce the posts of assistant to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for Science and Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation for Science, as well as create an independent Center for Military Science giving it the status of the leading scientific structure of the Ministry of Defense. Perhaps a similar decision of the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - the President of Russia on the creation of such a structure within the Security Council of the Russian Federation.

Since any social science is always opportunistic in nature, that is, it serves the views and ideas of today's leadership, the key word here is “independent,” which implies the possibility and right of the center’s leadership to conduct independent personnel, scientific and economic policies, relying on the corresponding right and the generosity of the Ministry of Defense and the state.

The Russian Academy of Sciences should establish an independent Center (committee, direction) of military sciences.

Today, the state has finally realized that in fundamental science (despite the fact that it does not give an immediate effect and does not immediately pay off), it is necessary to invest huge amounts of money and encourage its creators in every possible way. Otherwise, there will inevitably be lagging behind the developed powers, dependence on them and ultimately the loss of national sovereignty and national security.

Knowledge is always power, so military knowledge must become our professional cult.
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  1. ughhh
    +27
    6 February 2013 16: 03
    And why exactly the army? We have such an ass in all areas. Well, except for banking, okay ... The generation of the 90s has grown.
    1. +14
      6 February 2013 16: 26
      Quote: ughhh
      Well, except for banking, okay ...

      Banking is bullshit too. Banal usurers. Dostoevsky's Rodya Raskolnikov mocked his grandmother, and our "bankers" are not much different, except that the interest rates even more.
      1. +9
        6 February 2013 16: 48
        Quote: Garrin
        Dostoevsky Rody Raskolnikov granddad’s granddaughter,

        One old woman one ruble, two old women ......
        1. YARY
          +4
          6 February 2013 18: 15
          The article is very interesting.Both in terms of information content and in some attempts to draw conclusions. Opportunities for inspectionism and analysis of errors at the level of the headquarters. Output options are not clearly and grayly reflected.
          But in general there are more questions than solutions.
        2. +1
          6 February 2013 19: 42
          Quote: Vadivak
          One old woman one ruble, two old women ...
          Some kind of mathematics .... The ruble ... What for them is the ruble ... There they think differently, someone else's death-cent ...
      2. +1
        7 February 2013 00: 41
        Quote: Garrin
        Dostoevsky's Rodya Raskolnikov mock his grandmother, and our "bankers" are not much different, except that the interest rates even more.


        Something was a little taut without money, and Raskolnikov used to say whether to cut down the attendants, hiding his ax under his coat.
    2. +5
      6 February 2013 16: 30
      Quote: ughhh
      And why exactly the army?

      The site is a military one, and recently the damage from fraud in the defense sector goes wild, Mistral, for example --- the price of a contract with the French was assumed at 980 million euros. And for the French Navy, such ships are built at all for 400 million euros, that is, three times cheaper than the amount for which the Mistral was ultimately sold to Russia, ask why? The higher the cost, the higher the commission
      1. beech
        0
        6 February 2013 22: 26
        ha .. and our T-90s are sold to Indians 2 times cheaper than for our troops, the difference is in the configuration, but the couple do not really believe it
    3. 0
      6 February 2013 17: 01
      Nobody disputes the need for military science .. Only the author somehow abruptly took it ... Independence, independence, own personnel policy ... Dear, but military science is primarily military, and then science ... And its tasks are applied. ..
      Another question is what should be returned, or at least to raise scientific personnel ... And you can’t argue ... But again, our own personnel policy ... Military scientists are officers and generals ... And they receive money not only as doctors and candidates of sciences, but also as colonels and generals ...
  2. +4
    6 February 2013 16: 05
    I support, although for some reason the articles with much-needed suggestions are kept in black semi-catastrophic tones - is there a need for such a thickening of colors in the style of "a la fuse-polymers!" And so to create a science of "military affairs" at a fundamental level - with two hands for! Was it in the USSR? What was the name of this organ?
    1. +2
      6 February 2013 17: 03
      Quote: aksakal
      for some reason, articles with much-needed sentences are designed in black semi-catastrophic colors
      In light of increased funding for the country's defense, everyone is trying to grab more ... and not from the fact that they want to fat, no, it's just really thin everywhere, almost torn ..
      1. +1
        6 February 2013 17: 44
        Quote: older
        In light of increased funding for the country's defense, everyone is trying to grab more ... and not from the fact that they want to fat, no, it's just really thin everywhere, almost torn ..

        Well, maybe, so as not to rush to lower the price of energy resources? At least within the country. Can Abramovich and the rest of Chelsea sell the longest yacht?
        1. Hunghuz
          +1
          6 February 2013 18: 58
          hi Galleys and eggs Faberge ento SWEET .........))) not even michtai)
        2. 0
          6 February 2013 19: 45
          Quote: Garrin
          Well, maybe, so as not to rush to lower the price of energy resources? At least within the country. Can Abramovich and the rest of Chelsea sell the longest yacht?
          And what’s good to count someone else’s money? If he is a criminal, he can be imprisoned and confiscated, if an honest person has the right to buy anything ... By the way, last year Abramovich gave Omsk a luxury hockey stadium Arena-Omsk and the entire entire Avangard team training base. .And, as far as I know, this is one of the richest teams in the KHL ...
    2. 0
      6 February 2013 17: 34
      And we have it so constantly: either that's it fellow or crying Russia what do you say ...
    3. +1
      7 February 2013 02: 35
      Quote: aksakal
      for some reason, articles with much-needed sentences are designed in black semi-catastrophic colors


      because in Russia they start to do something only when a complete catastrophe sets in ... and even then not always ... they are pulled to the very last limit, when everything begins to literally fall apart ...
  3. 0
    6 February 2013 16: 10
    Well, with the monetary allowance of the officers, the issue is now being resolved, but otherwise the author is right
    1. beech
      0
      6 February 2013 22: 33
      the quality of training of the officers themselves is also not a fountain ... the older generation who visited the meat grinder in Chechnya almost left (fired), the new ones are unknown what (in connection with the reform of the stool), and the future - I want to close my eyes ... after 9kl everything the binary and simply degenerates went to military schools ...
  4. +5
    6 February 2013 16: 11
    Unfortunately, the general incompetence of the top commanding staff struck not only the Ministry of Defense, it is a systemic problem when our own and ours ply the ministries in search of warm places. The focus on not having to be a specialist to manage anything is flawed. How can management determine development strategies if it does not understand the essence of what it rules. Like Confucius said: "God forbid you live in an era of change." Reforms, even good and correct ones, still lead to the washing out of personnel, and if they are endless, then there are no competent people left at all.
    1. +18
      6 February 2013 16: 30
      cadres decide everything ...... and English lords write about former seminarians and such .....
      Winston Churchill on Stalin.

      “It was great happiness for Russia that during the years of difficult trials, Russia was headed by the genius and unshakable commander I.V. Stalin. He was an outstanding personality who impressed the cruel time of the period in which his whole life passed.
      Stalin was a man of extraordinary energy, erudition and unbending will, sharp, tough, merciless both in business and in conversation, which even I, raised in the English parliament, could not oppose.
      Stalin, above all, had a great sense of sarcasm and humor, as well as the ability to accurately express his thoughts.
      Stalin wrote speeches only himself, and gigantic power always sounded in his works.
      This power was so great in Stalin that it seemed unique among the leaders of all times and peoples.
      Stalin made the greatest impression on us. His influence on people was irresistible. When he entered the hall of the Yalta Conference, we all, as if on command, stood up and, strange thing, for some reason held our hands at the seams.
      He possessed a deep, devoid of any panic, logical and meaningful wisdom. Stalin was an unsurpassed master in finding in difficult moments the way out of the most hopeless situation. In the most difficult moments, as well as in moments of triumph, he was equally restrained, never succumbed to illusions. He was an unusually complex person. He created and subjugated a vast empire. It was a man who destroyed his enemy with his hands and made us, whom he openly called imperialists, rebel against the imperialists.
      Stalin was the greatest, unparalleled dictator in the world. He accepted Russia with a plow, and left it equipped with atomic weapons.
      1. +1
        6 February 2013 17: 08
        As for a simple seminarist, you should not. If Stalin is really the son of Przhevalsky, and it is practically proved that the Pzhevalsky son of the Grand Duke Alexander Nikolaevich (future emperor Alexander 2), then ..
  5. +7
    6 February 2013 16: 22
    Yes, wars of the future will be different from wars of the past, but ...
    The author describes the current picture in the spirit of "pissed through the polymers", while not specifying what exactly needs to be done. So the general alarm calls.
    "If you are on the couch, then do not criticize those who plow for you" (C) IMHO
    1. +5
      6 February 2013 16: 34
      Quote: ATATA
      The author describes today's picture in the spirit of: "fucked up polymers",

      ! +! good Withdrew from the tongue ..
    2. beech
      0
      6 February 2013 22: 28
      what to do then? Two women stole billions, and they are under house arrest ... they drop their hands themselves ... because in Russia they’ll plant bread for a stolen loaf of bread, but they won’t do anything for the stolen millions ... it was like that and it always will be
      1. Andrey58
        -1
        6 February 2013 23: 47
        Quote: beech
        in Russia for a stolen loaf of bread will be planted

        They will not put me in prison Do not escalate.
  6. pa_nik
    +2
    6 February 2013 16: 31
    Perhaps the fact is that the Russian Armed Forces do not have constant combat contact, and, accordingly, experience. It is only in combat conditions that the interconnection of different types of troops, the training of an individual soldier and weapons are assessed. If we recall the conflicts in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Abkhazia-Georgia, the weak sides of interaction (in particular, the provision of communication) between the units were determined, the corresponding orders were received in the defense industry for the development of communications, the inappropriate uniform was changed to "Afghan", the lack of support for tanks (Grozny) - we are discussing the created "Terminator" tank support combat vehicle on a parallel branch. It seems something like this ... On the other hand - and it's good that there are no contacts of this kind. And the longer they are gone, the better! Our armored train is on a side track lol
    1. SEM
      SEM
      0
      6 February 2013 18: 51
      This is exactly the way it is everywhere, and 08.08.08 helped our opponents to identify and establish it as our weak side ...
  7. +8
    6 February 2013 16: 33
    Author, which country is preparing for the wars of the future? Who can know what will be effective? I'm not talking about local wars, but about world war. Advice on what is needed and what is not needed will also not help in the war of the future. So this opus, in the spirit, must be done this way, otherwise "we will all die", complete garbage.
    1. +9
      6 February 2013 16: 57
      Quote: Wedmak
      Advice on what you need and what you don’t need will help in the war of the future.

      Well, she's like that, Russia, here they are, the "advisers", and they are going through wink
  8. 0
    6 February 2013 16: 41
    The officer corps is “wild”: they hardly read professional and just good literature. The impoverished maintenance of officers and military high schools does not allow to write out neither professional Russian, and especially foreign magazines. Major military libraries are not available. The libraries in the garrisons and units are in a pitiful state. The military libraries of leading academies are not digitized, the library of the General Staff does not have its own premises. The Military Encyclopedic Dictionary and the Military Encyclopedia are not digitized.
    Well, maybe the librarian in the club will read them. Yes, staff workers, but the main link of the platoon, company and battalion commanders will not have exactly time. If only at night.
    1. Felix200970
      +2
      6 February 2013 22: 29
      Quote: maestro123
      Well, maybe the librarian in the club will read them. Yes, staff workers, but the main link of the platoon, company and battalion commanders will not have exactly time. If only at night.

      A librarian at best. This is provided that the literature has survived. There are no special library funds in military units. At best, specialized literature is kept in the combat unit. And at the builder - you know. 25 hours a day is not enough for him to do his main job. I'm not talking about special accounting. literature. Digitization could really be a solution to the issue. But here another question arises. Specialist. Literature almost all comes with the stamp "For official use" and above. Regarding the fact that platoon company and other military ghosts have no time. So there is one answer to this: you shouldn’t try to work as sergeants. Yes, and you need to ask not the major and the lieutenant colonel why the soldier is not hemmed, but the squad leader. And it is high time to remove self-training as the main type of officer training. He is so self-prepared that mom do not cry. The process must be manageable. And not by interrogating a prisoner of war, but interactively. They read a lecture - they raised the prisoners of war - an order on the appointment of the guilty and rewarding those who did not participate. For some reason it works in artillery. In the infantry, no. And the article is correct. It thickens the paint a little, but correct. It is high time to pay attention to this. And then there is a situation when an ignoramus teaches an ignoramus (this is at best), and often everyone is stewed in their own juice.
  9. Roomata
    +3
    6 February 2013 16: 49
    the cry of the soul is straight
    the current he drowned in reality
  10. Avenger711
    +2
    6 February 2013 16: 56
    The article is a fat minus for stupidity and zero information content.

    And as usual, all specialists are at war, except for generals.
  11. +4
    6 February 2013 17: 00
    In Russia, unfortunately, a self-destruction mechanism is still in operation, launched by the traitor Gorbachev at the behest of the US leadership, and led by the subsequent and current leadership of the state. Until this mechanism is destroyed, the people managing this meanism will not be removed from the leadership of the state, nothing will change, all good and correct plans and deeds "will go into the sand."
  12. Gopnik27
    0
    6 February 2013 17: 01
    Before the war, the 41st, too, were not ready. The Finnish war showed. But they survived, turned and defeated. Our people are savvy and strong in spirit.
    1. berimor
      +5
      6 February 2013 17: 23
      But at what cost !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. -1
        6 February 2013 17: 28
        Do you just want to turn the joystick and press the buttons? NATO is rapidly moving towards this. Not that I approve of "corpse piling," but something like that.
        1. Guun
          0
          6 February 2013 21: 04
          The price of victory in all world wars is very high, if you lose, you lose everything, if victory is expensive. The USSR fought alone against Hitler whose army was the best in the whole world. No country would stand against the power of the Wehrmacht, the French were captured for a month, the British were locked up in the island, or they simply hid with overseas. France survived the First World War and there was more experience than the United States, I think the United States would have been completely captured within six months if Hitler had landed. But he went on his own head to the USSR and paid. And the second front opened at the end of the war, and then more than a million allies landed in Normandy, which was protected by Rommel with more than two thousand. And they are proud of it.
  13. -1
    6 February 2013 17: 07
    I just couldn’t get past the instructions for fooling around:
    Source: Greenkomitet.ru

    How influence agents work
    I stumbled upon a site on technologies for organizing the "orange revolutions".

    The article itself contains detailed instructions for the fifth column. Tomorrow it is waiting for us! It is urgently necessary to strike with an information weapon at the "lost" compatriots steamed up by propaganda. After all, these are our people! Tomorrow they will start smashing shops and burning cars - while sincerely believing that they are doing the right thing. One of the State Department manuals in Russian:


    MEMORY TO THE AGENT OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT
    instructions for the fighter of the invisible front (work on the forums)
    INTRODUCTION: _________

    In order to convey the idea to the audience as best as possible, it is necessary to take several preliminary steps so that the patriots of Russia take you for their own.
    1. At every opportunity, mention in a positive manner the USSR and its leaders, especially I.V. Stalin. This will give you the broadest possibilities in the future. Publish memoirs of veterans, stories from the lives of heroes, links to military-historical topics.
    2. Always compare the achievements of today's Russia with the achievements of the USSR. During the 70 years of the USSR, he had a mighty industrial growth in the 30-s, and serious scientific achievements in the 70-s. Combining this in one text, it is easy to prove the nullity of any attempts to produce something in modern Russia.
    3. If in modern Russia something was nevertheless managed to be developed or produced, immediately indicate that in the USSR it would be better, more, and would be produced. For example, the best commentary on the first flight of the PAK FA looks like this: “Under Stalin, this plane would already be in the army.” He is patriotic, it is impossible to refute it and, most importantly, it completely levels the achievement of Russia in the eyes of the reader.
    4. Compare all production in Russia with a well-chosen example from Soviet times. For example, boldly compare the numbers of new aircraft or tanks with the release of aircraft and tanks in 1942.
    5. Always mean that all our neighbors want to attack us immediately. Remember 1941 more often. If you are considering a threat from China, gently hint that Nato will not remain aloof.
    6. Having earned a reputation as a patriot, you can move on to bolder actions. For the smallest cause, demand the resignation of the minister, government, president. The phrases "Well, under Stalin, they would have been strong / they would have already been shot"
    7. Blame the lie more often. It can be either unaddressed, like "There are liars in the government," and targeted, like "Putin is 99% a liar." After such preparation, many more people will trust you. If you just write something like “Ares is about to take off, but Angara will never fly”, or “T-80 is being scrapped because of corruption,” you may simply be kicked out of the forum. If you preface this phrase with a story about the successes of Soviet cosmonautics or the Red Army in the Second World War, even knowledgeable people will believe you.

    In full: http://greenkomitet.ru/forum/raznoe/infovoina/898-kak-rabotayut-agenty-vliyaniya
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    1. 0
      6 February 2013 17: 33
      in any provocation a lie no more than 5%, the rest should be pure truth!
    2. +5
      6 February 2013 17: 52
      Quote: AlexFU
      Accidentally came across a site on technologies for organizing the "orange revolutions".

      And you are very similar to such an agent. laughing
      1. 0
        7 February 2013 01: 06
        Quote: ATATA
        Quote: AlexFU
        I stumbled upon a site on technologies for organizing the "orange revolutions".

        And you are very similar to such an agent.


        These are not my words, if you carefully read, there is a link to the source: Greenkomitet.ru
    3. +2
      6 February 2013 18: 35
      MEMORY TO THE AGENT OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT

      This is an instruction for hamsters. Well, of leavened patriots. In modern conditions, they act thinner. Remember the swamp crowd - the crowd got to gawk and get out of boredom, and the leaders voiced completely different constructions. And, by the way, the deb-ils from the national patriots ran there in a column under the black-yellow-white flags. Later I asked them - how did you decide to unite with the conductors of gay pride parades and privatization checks? The answer killed on the spot - "we must first achieve a revolution, remove the Jewish-Masonic power, and only then !!!"
      That is, the people did not understand that they were used as cannon fodder, and they became a toy in the hands of the State Department. But the ambition - oh oh oh.
      As always, extremes always coincide when the brain is not enough to think about the consequences. This national-patriotic clowns seriously think that they will be able to launch a rebellion in their favor ... Alas, their fate is to die on the barricades under the hoot of swamp hamsters. But power will be taken by completely different people whom no one sees at rallies.
      So let’s go without re-revolutionary slogans. There are many psychos, someone will begin to take it seriously.
      1. 0
        7 February 2013 01: 18
        Quote: Botanologist
        So let’s go without re-revolutionary slogans. There are many psychos, someone will begin to take it seriously.


        So I thought that someone would take this seriously, and would not fall under the influence of these "agents" of psychological warfare, and this is not "instruction for hamsters" at all, if they reacted with minuses, there are more agents on the site, just apart from the rest smarter, two were not entirely smart.
    4. 0
      7 February 2013 10: 11
      Quote: AlexFU
      MEMORY TO THE AGENT OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT
      Another gabesh provocation.
  14. Nechai
    +4
    6 February 2013 17: 14
    "Russia is preparing for the wars of the past" - if only it were really so! In the sense that the Russian Armed Forces would have inevitable opportunities to force the adversary to Wage a War of the Past! Used to be deprived of his "long arm", the very ability to conduct aerospace operations, network-centric combat operations ...
    Unfortunately, until recently, the RF Armed Forces were not preparing to wage ANY WAR! For the Kremlin chair-holders loudly, unfoundedly asserted that THERE ARE NO EXTERNAL GLOBAL THREATS TO RUSSIA! On the basis of this treacherous postulate, the "construction" of the Armed Forces was carried out, and calling things by their proper names - the destruction of the defense capability of the COUNTRY as a whole, in all aspects of this MULTIFUNCTIONAL activity. Only LIMITED goals and objectives were set - local wars, with a deliberately weak enemy, crush the separatists, suppress the popular uprising together with the military. That's all. ARGESSORS AND SPEECH WERE NOT SPEAKING ABOUT THE OUTER RESISTANCE !!!
    The whole trick is that "civilized nations" (this is their self-name) are now NOT ABLE to wage wars of the past! China, Japan and some Asian countries are still capable of this. Until recently, Russia also kept it! And the need to change the mentality of the nation, pushed by the "iPhone & C", is precisely aimed at destroying the ability to resist the invaders IN WHAT DO NOT HAPPEN! UP TO SELF-DONATION! For they themselves are the invaders. Parasitizing on the "body" of society.
    You will familiarize yourself with the definition of now-revered, advertised tolerance. What does it lead to? Only not Western slut media, but at least doctors:
    Immunological tolerance - the immunological state of the body in which it is not able to synthesize antibodies in response to the introduction of a particular antigen while maintaining immune reactivity to other antigens. The problem of immunological tolerance matters when transplanting organs and tissues. (Wiki)
    Tolerance in pharmacology, immunology and narcology - a decrease in the reaction to repeated administration of drugs, drugs or psychoactive substances; body addiction, which requires an increasing dose to achieve the inherent effect of the substance. (wiki)
    Tolerance is a medical term for the body's inability to resist a foreign body. Complete tolerance is death ...
    Initially, to set ourselves the goal of successfully resisting a high-tech aggressor, this is the path to irrevocable defeat. Well, now we have neither that demographic, nor production, nor economic potential. We are well aware of HOW the world's "virtues" wish to wage war. Only with the Papuan armies, not a single shot, not a single explosion should sound on their territory. War with comfort and every convenience. So the devil is not so scary as HE DOES HIMSELF!
    How to make the DAMS (SHAYTANAM) feel scared, I think, publicly DO NOT DISCUSS! Let them have a surprise ...
  15. anchonsha
    +3
    6 February 2013 17: 23
    O-ppa Now it’s clear why Defense Minister Syrdyuk stomped around like a bear in a china shop and destroyed a lot in our army. And the fact that there is no spiritual basis among the officers, that military science, due to the low provision of officers, has completely remained outside the army. And when will all this be in our army?
    1. +5
      6 February 2013 17: 36
      Quote: anchonsha
      why so Minister of Defense Syrdyuk trodden like a bear in a china shop

      and then he (the bear) was made a scapegoat, ah, what a bad minister we need and no one knew anything, because he had deceived the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs with their huge apparatus
      1. Nechai
        +1
        6 February 2013 18: 30
        Quote: Vadivak
        and then he (the bear) was made a scapegoat,

        But the gantry Do not rush to do it ...
  16. avt
    0
    6 February 2013 17: 35
    In principle, the article does not shine with novelty, the author does not offer something radically new — a super breakthrough. But here is the title itself! Yes, the army responds quite conservatively to innovations. BUT is it good or bad? For example, in Russian-Turkish, Berdanki sights were set as smooth-bore sights. Poorly ? Yes . And when did Tukhachevsky go out of his way with double-turret tanks, with Kurchevsy's dynamo-reactive cannons, radio-controlled squadrons of torpedo boats? And you can’t say the same thing as stupidity, just the time has not come. Here's how to find a middle ground? How to measure it? After all, we need a very clear decision-making algorithm, it’s not a joke business, here you can’t say the fight — forgive me Russians. There will be no one to say.
    1. 0
      7 February 2013 21: 35
      So about it and article!
  17. +1
    6 February 2013 17: 41
    Something unpleasant rustling .... is it not from bricklayers' aprons ??? The article is not just "nothing" (0 info) but directly says that white is black.
  18. 0
    6 February 2013 17: 42
    Thank you for the article, but with such thoughts you should immediately wrap yourself in a sheet and crawl into the cemetery. In order for something to be done, one must take and do, and not reflect on what has not been done. In general, judging by the articles on the forum, I’m either sitting inveterate patriots or incredible pessimists, everyone else is busy with work and what has been done and continues to be done is still better than in the 2000s ..... I don’t even want to write through the headings of articles forum and it will become clear what is happening. And to develop strategic plans is a measure preceding an attack on someone, but they have not disappeared defense plans for so many years.
  19. USNik
    +4
    6 February 2013 18: 09
    The author longs for posts and state money, because proposes to create new ministries and posts, and at the same time, in all seriousness, claims that this is for
    so that Russian military thought emerges from a coma
    ...
    1. Region65
      +3
      6 February 2013 18: 48
      oh dear, first I wrote my comment, then I read yours, our thoughts agree, everything is correctly noticed :) the author of the article follows the American method - you need to come up with a problem that doesn’t exist, convince the right people that there is a problem and if it can’t be solved then we all have a gun, and he, the author, about our savior, can solve this problem if they give him a lot of money and benefits, a warm office with a soft chair for a cunning ass, privileges, and so on)
    2. dmb
      0
      6 February 2013 18: 59
      In, finally, it is said why the article was written. Along the way, I counted about five independent Soviets. Yes, they are already off scale. One Mr. Korotchenko-political officer is worth something. Notice to yourself all the advice I will receive money from the budget, for which everything will be borne except responsibility. I understand that these newly-minted "children of Lieutenant Schmidt" will not last long, and they will soon start beating them, but we will have time to have a certain amount of capital and a hole in the budget. If you are so concerned about the lack of military thought, who prevents you from writing a clever book and publishing it at your own expense, who prevents you from speaking on aspects of military development on the same Internet, write a letter to the General Staff in the end.
  20. Region65
    +2
    6 February 2013 18: 45
    guys! here it is the whole point of the article in this phrase, the quote "........ In order for the Russian military thought to come out of the state of coma, serious institutional changes are needed. A decision is needed to create a Council on War and Peace within the framework of the RAS Presidium and a separate direction of academic (fundamental) research in the direction of military affairs .... "this says about everything - the author simply tends to the fact that in the RAS it would be necessary to create a certain branch in which he will naturally be present, which will naturally be financed from the federal budget and in which HE and his fellow scientists will pretend to be doing something to get good money)))))) article minus, the author in the furnace.
  21. SEM
    SEM
    0
    6 February 2013 18: 46
    The article only says that everything is bad and indeed at least go to die))). You need to learn to fight !!! .... It is inappropriate to raise the panic, otherwise it may end very badly ... It is necessary to close educational institutions where they trained the military to open and raise the level of their training. And most importantly, in order to achieve a result in the combat readiness of the army, as it does not sound threatening, practice is needed. ... I do not urge to unleash a war !!! But your friends need to be helped and not only with words ... And so you look and the friends of the "allies" will not stop. !!!. With whom will we be friends ?? ..
  22. +3
    6 February 2013 19: 21
    Military thought needs to be developed, only smart and competent officers in peacetime are not needed in the Army. From them, the authorities, in addition to troubles and headaches, have no profit.
  23. 0
    6 February 2013 19: 33
    an article about the need to bureaucratize the army even more, apparently what would have been more feeding troughs for officials. The USSR had enough departments and ministries to understand world realities and threats, and for counterproductive work on these threats, why produce something if it could be just to fix what was destroyed under Yeltsin-Putin.Next, what past wars and preparations for it are we talking about ??? I thought I would see a well-founded conclusion that the tank + plane on the battlefield has outlived and now fall from the sky on our heads American "optimus-primes", so there is no regular chatter with loud slogans and urges.
  24. 0
    6 February 2013 19: 38
    Any theory is tested and developed by practice. The Germans in the 41st won due to the experience gained (from the 36th, from Spain). Only at the end of the 42nd the Red Army gained experience and strength for further victories. EXPERIENCE! Any military, until he participated in military operations - a representative of amusing troops. Science is needed, but practice is more important now! How many problems with non-competence would be solved if the transition between the junior, senior and higher command staff were not resolved without military practice.
  25. +1
    6 February 2013 20: 05
    Where did the author come from ?!
    Affected by the lack of an independent expert body. Whose budget it will sit on will depend on that. There are still darkness of such "bodies" (the Military Scientific Committee, military academies, research organizations), but they all depend ... on the country's leadership and no one listens to them when they try to tell the truth. True, after Serdyukov and Makarov they no longer try ...
    We need people who can defend their opinions in discussions and under the pressure of the authority of "stars and epaulets." So they are, only they are either driven to the Swamp or spread rot directly in organizations, units ...
    In divisions, corps, armies, military districts, military educational institutions, it is necessary to create regular methodological councils on combat (operational) training, and under the president and the government of Russia - a council on strategic training of the state. The author did not hear anything about the departments and directorates of operational and combat training, the General Staff, the Main Directorate of Special Programs under the President of the Russian Federation?
    Military science does not develop the extremely important problem of the objective justification of the system and the specific financial content of the monetary content of military personnel, based on the criteria of their labor costs, time and conditions of military service, its quality and condition. Is this the task of military science?
    Our military thought did not offer the state either a clear model of a unified system of government in peacetime or wartime, or algorithms for transitioning from one state to another. Generally speaking, the classic - "war is a continuation of politics ..." - suggests that first you need to choose a clear foreign policy course, determine your rivals in the economic arena ...
    There was not enough strength to read further. Sheer populism and excitement for "hamsters".
    1. Andrey58
      0
      6 February 2013 22: 24
      Quote: Strategia
      We need people who can defend their opinions in discussions and under the pressure of the authority of "stars and epaulets." So they are, only they are either driven to the Swamp or spread rot directly in organizations, units ...

      Unfortunately, those who came to Bolotnaya did not have his opinions.
      1. 0
        7 February 2013 09: 59
        You are in the deepest error (to say the least) where the official propaganda has taken you. Alas!
  26. 0
    6 February 2013 20: 14
    The army must be unambiguously withdrawn from the system of market relations. It must receive all the benefits from the market, while not being its subject.
    ___________________________________
    With all your hands and other limbs "for". And it is with this that we must begin to eliminate the consequences of "Serdyukovism."
  27. Bashkaus
    0
    6 February 2013 20: 50
    What did Einstein say about the third world war? ))) So everything is a bunch
  28. Andrey58
    0
    6 February 2013 20: 58
    The officer corps is “wild”: they hardly read professional and just good literature. The impoverished maintenance of officers and military high schools does not allow to write out neither professional Russian, and especially foreign magazines. Major military libraries are not available. The libraries in the garrisons and units are in a pitiful state. The military libraries of leading academies are not digitized, the library of the General Staff does not have its own premises. The Military Encyclopedic Dictionary and the Military Encyclopedia are not digitized.

    Yeah, and the officers have no computers. If there is 386 IBM with an ancient 28 fps modem. Therefore, they do not read the Internet and do not suspect their existence at all.
    Here recently in the article one pilot-raider from 60 thousand rubles. his nose turned up. So what about the "beggarly content" is not necessary. It is clear that everyone gets in different ways, somewhere - more, somewhere - less, but still, let's not generalize. In recent years, officers have certainly not been deprived.
  29. +2
    6 February 2013 21: 07
    Is Russia getting ready for the wars of the past ??
    “Is this a leak from the General Staff?”
    Or did the author come across a TTZ for an airplane from the 1916 archive, but he forgot to look at the date and took it for the latest design TTZ?
    Defense doctrine is not developed ??
    - What, maybe I missed something and the General Staff has already been disbanded?
    Or are military doctrines discussed somewhere in open conferences?
    I could add questions about the number of prefixes and particles "not" used by the author, but there is no desire to be like.
    Score "-"
    1. 0
      6 February 2013 23: 48
      I agree that for the last 20 years Russia has been doing nothing but fighting. Successful or not is another question, but the staff "grows" and grows quickly. The difference between the "Serbian war", the "first Chechen", and the "last Chechen" is striking. If you look at the speed at which our army is settling in, it becomes clear that common sense begins to prevail.
      Well, let's remember the last "Georgian campaign". Was it a defeatist army? Far from it.
      Article minus for "defeatism".
  30. +2
    6 February 2013 23: 19
    As I understand it, it is proposed to hang on the budget an agency of experts who will not be personally responsible for anything, but will give birth to smart military thoughts, to which people of "stars and epaulets" are obliged to listen.
    That is, from a country that provides equipment and advisers to other countries, Russia must finally turn into a country that itself needs advisers.
    Under the tsar, experts served the Duma deputies and the top leadership, who made decisions. There was no “expert” position, but “adviser” was of the rank. The salary was for the position, not for the rank, and the experts were already in the position of specialists. The retired were provided with daily allowances and travel passes, but not salaries.
    Dreaming of a sinecure is not harmful, but not at public expense.
  31. kuman2705
    0
    6 February 2013 23: 21
    not an article, but complete nonsense. Well, it’s necessary how dashingly the author’s words fly off the tongue and are arranged so nicely into sentences, well, it’s just delight for the ears, only the ears are not the same. This is what the West wants us to do so, so much I want them to believe in it sacredly, they believe unshakably for so much that they crap their crap through the media, they are very independent and intellectually developed ......, well
    It’s already, the 90s have passed, we ourselves with a mustache.
    "while the Russian soldier has gunpowder, matches, moonshine, with a sieve x ... th NATO soldiers, trembling with fear pentogon!
  32. 0
    7 February 2013 00: 05
    Article rubbish, very late, apparently lying on a shelf from the beginning of the 90s, hardly read this nonsense.
  33. 0
    7 February 2013 00: 12
    All this mess with the army and everything connected with it (military education, science, medicine, etc.) will change only after a disaster. Until a real war comes to the threshold of the country, this pounding of water in a mortar will be. A game of fashion designers in the style of military dressing up. And the USA and the EU will definitely work for us, they have experience. It did not work with Georgia to drag Russia into a new Caucasian war (the Georgian army ran into a panic in the mountains), they will do it in another state in the post-Soviet space. Uzbekistan went under the United States and NATO, Tajikistan also asks.
    What will happen to Kazakhstan after Nazarbayev’s departure, what forces will come to power?
    Who will guarantee that they will not become radical Islamists with the financial and informational support of the US and EU SMRADs?
  34. Alejandro
    0
    7 February 2013 00: 22
    Quote: srha
    EXPERIENCE! Any military, until he participated in military operations - a representative of amusing troops. Science is needed, but practice is more important now! How many problems with non-competence would be solved if the transition between the junior, senior and higher command staff were not resolved without military practice.
    The smart learns from the mistakes of others and the fool from his own. It is necessary to tidy up the already existing military education system and with its help analyze global conflicts and give forecasts for the future and not create a bunch of new structures.
    1. 0
      7 February 2013 00: 28
      It is not the business of a military education system — to analyze and predict. Train their business. So military science is still worth developing.
      1. Alejandro
        +1
        7 February 2013 00: 57
        This refers to education in general. And in particular:
        The Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is a higher educational institution for training, training and advanced training of higher and senior officers of the Armed Forces, other ministries and departments of the Russian Federation, heads and officials of state and executive authorities, enterprises and defense industrial complex, officers of foreign armies. At the same time, the Academy is the leading military educational institution of the Russian Federation for conducting scientific research on the problems of ensuring the military security of the state, military construction, the use of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, military and state administration.
  35. +2
    7 February 2013 06: 09
    The article is about nothing. Set of slogans and denunciatory stamps. By what parameters does the author declare that Russia is preparing for the wars of the past? And how does he himself see the wars of the future? War is not only an armed confrontation between the parties. This is an information struggle, this is a competition of economies and a rivalry between state control systems. And in this article, the author spread panic only on the military component. Since ancient times, military art has not undergone fundamental changes. Only some tactical methods changed or appeared. No one has yet been able to invent a replacement for these types of military operations. like defense or offensive. No one was able to cancel outbreaks, bypasses, ambushes, or raid actions. And the thing is that a person has remained unchanged as a biological species, and the main way to deal with the enemy is to inflict physical damage on him. An arrow replaced a club, a bullet replaced an arrow, but so far nothing has replaced the bullet. So the main ways of opposing the enemy’s weapons of destruction have for many centuries remained a physical barrier or disguise. Before the invention of weapons or protection, fundamentally nothing will change on some new physical principles.

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