God of war with nuclear goodies - SAU 2C7 "Peony"

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"Peony" (also known as "Malka", GRAU index - 2C7) - Soviet self-propelled guns, armed with a 203-mm gun 2A44. Self-propelled artillery was adopted in 1975, in 1983 it was modernized. The main designer of the self-propelled gun is N. S. Popov, the main designer of the swinging part G. I. Sergeev. Self-propelled guns "Peony" is designed to defeat particularly important targets and enemy targets located in the tactical depth of defense behind the front line. Self-propelled installation is made according to a reckless scheme; when it was created, aggregates and units were used as a running gear tank T-80 To date, self-propelled artillery 2S7 "Peony" is the most powerful self-propelled artillery mount in the world. It is in service with Russia and several other countries of the former USSR. According to information for 2010 in the Russian army there were 130 such self-propelled guns.

History create

In September 1969 of the year, the Leningrad Kirov Plant presented to the military a draft of the new ACS “Peony”, created on the basis of the T-64 tank chassis in an open-rooted design, while at the same time the Volgograd Barricades plant presented its project on the 429 object's chassis open performance. As a result, the winner was a project based on the chassis object 429. A joint decision of the Council of Ministers of the USSR and the Central Committee of the CPSU from 8 July 1970, it was decided to start work on the 203,2-mm self-propelled artillery 2С7 "Peony", which would have a range of 32 km. conventional ammunition and 42 km. active-reactive ammunition.

Already 1 in March 1971 of the year, the Main Agrarian University of Ukraine approved the revised requirements for the performance characteristics for the designed artillery system. In these requirements it was proposed to consider and work out the possibility of using a special shot ZVB2 howitzers B-4 of the same caliber. The maximum firing range of an ordinary 110-kilogram projectile was given in 35 km., And the minimum ricochet firing range was 8,5 km. The firing range of the special active-reactive ammunition was supposed to be 40-43 km. KB No. XXNX of the Leningrad Kirov Plant was appointed as the lead developer of the new ACS “Pion”.
God of war with nuclear goodies - SAU 2C7 "Peony"

At the same time, the Barricades factory was responsible for the development of the artillery part of the installation, the chief designer GI Sergeev was in charge of these works. Volgograd residents completed the artillery unit according to the classical scheme, but at the same time with a number of features. Among other things, it is possible to note the fact that the trunk of the new installation was not monoblock - it was collapsible and consisted of a free pipe, breech, casing, sleeve and coupling. This construction of the barrel in the 70-s of the XIX century was proposed by engineer A. A. Kolokoltsev, who worked at the Obukhov plant. The choice of this design was due to the fact that the artillery systems of special power are characterized by a fairly rapid wear of their rifled part when firing. In this case, all-in-one monoblocks are sent for replacement to special plants, which requires time-consuming, during which the gun is inactive. In collapsible trunks, such operations can be performed on the territory of artillery workshops that are located in the front line.

In the 1975 year, after conducting a series of factory and state tests, the Pion self-propelled artillery gun was adopted by the Soviet Army and went into mass production. SAU 27 "Peony" entered into service with artillery brigades of special power. In Leningrad, at the Kirov factory, a special 216 object chassis was manufactured and the final assembly of the gun was carried out, and the artillery unit was produced in Volgograd at the Barricades factory.

Description of construction


SAU 27 "Peony" was made according to the reckless pattern, the gun self-propelled gun was placed openly on a tracked chassis in the rear part. In front of the building was located the department of management, followed by the engine-transmission department (MTS), followed by the calculation department and the combat (feed) department. The self-propelled artillery installation was serviced by a calculation in the number of 14 people, of which 7 people were crews of SAU. During the march, the crew was located in the offices of management and calculation, while the remaining 7 people were in a special armored personnel carrier or truck.

A powerful 203-mm gun was mounted in the stern of the tracked chassis. Constructive rejection of the use of the muzzle brake allowed to provide a muzzle wave of low pressure at the calculation workplaces, which made it possible to abandon the installation of special protection for the members of the tool calculation. The 203-mm gun was equipped with a push-pull piston shutter, the shutter was closed and opened automatically with a special mechanical drive, while it was possible to perform this operation in manual mode. Submission and subsequent delivery of the projectile was carried out using a loading mechanism that could work at any angles of vertical and horizontal guidance.

Management of loading operations was carried out from the castle lock. The shells were delivered to the gun with the help of a special standard hand-held single-axle cart. The maximum rate of fire SAU "Peony" was 1,5 shot per minute. In this case, the following shooting modes were provided:

- 8 shots for 5 minutes of time;
-15 shots for 10 minutes of time;
-24 shots for 20 minutes of time;
-30 shots for 30 minutes of time;
-40 shots - for an hour 1.

The additional armament of the SAU consisted of an RPG-7 anti-tank grenade launcher, MANPADS, F-1 grenades, 4's automatic rifles and a flare gun.
Hydropneumatic recoil devices were installed on the bottom and on the top of the barrel (hydraulic recoil spun brake with pneumatic knurling). The barrel recoil length was approximately 1400 mm. To absorb a sufficiently noticeable recoil force of the gun in the aft part of the body of the self-propelled chassis, a dozer opener type was installed, lowered by means of a hydraulic drive. The opener is sunk to the ground to a depth of approximately 700 mm and provides self-propelled gun mounts with good stability during firing. The blocking hydraulic shock absorbers of the suspension units of the support rollers, as well as special steering wheels of the tracked chassis, lowered with the help of a hydraulic drive, also contribute to increasing the stability of the automatic control system.

Thanks to the use of fairly effective recoil devices, firing from a cannon can be carried out in a fairly wide range of pickup angles. The angle of horizontal guidance of the instrument is 30 degrees, in the vertical plane the instrument can be induced in the range from 0 to + 60 degrees. At small elevation angles of the instrument or when using reduced charges, firing from the ACS is possible without the use of a coulter.

On the SAU 2C7 “Peony” was installed a twelve-cylinder V-shaped diesel B-46-1, equipped with a turbocharging system, the maximum diesel power - 750 hp In addition, in order to provide autonomous power supply to the installation, a diesel engine with a diesel engine with an 24 horsepower capacity was installed in the MTS. A manual transmission with onboard gearboxes and a bevel gearbox was borrowed from MBT T-72. Using the B-46-1 diesel engine allowed the 46-ton car to accelerate on the highway to a speed of 50 km / h.

On the undercarriage, 7 track rollers were installed on each side. Suspension rollers torsion bar, individual with lockable hydraulic shock absorbers. Drive wheels self-propelled were located in front. Many nodes in the chassis "Pion" were borrowed from the MBT T-80.

2С7М "Malka"

The upgraded version of the ACS under the symbol 2С7М “Malka” was also designed in KB №3 of the Kirov factory. In the chassis of the modernized self-propelled guns, higher-strength materials and rubber-coated elements were used. At Pion, a new fire control equipment has appeared that is capable of receiving data automatically. The remote loader was improved, the design of the charging stack was changed. Introduced new ammunition more power. The ammunition transported directly to the SPG was increased to 8 shots (from 4-x). On 2С7М a system of regulated control of continuous action was installed with automatic systems for diagnosing the state of the most important self-propelled gun-mounted subsystems. The modernization of the chassis "Pion" allowed the growth of the life of the motorcycle to 8-10 thousands of km.

Thanks to the improvement of the remote mechanism for loading the gun, this process became possible at any angle of vertical guidance. We managed to raise the rate of fire in 1,6 times - up to 2,4-2,5 shots per minute. The continuous firing time of the 2C7М is up to 3 hours. In the 2C7M ACS, a control option was provided through the control machine with automatic reception of the data necessary for firing through radio channel or wired communications with the display of the incoming data on the digital indicators of the commander and gunner's instruments.

Used ammunition

The main munitions of the super-power artillery installation were high-explosive fragmentation shells OFNNXX, as well as an active-missile projectile. PF-43 weighed 43 kg., The projectile contained 110 kg. explosives. The maximum range of high-explosive fragmentation projectile was 17,8 km. when using a full charge, the initial velocity of the projectile was equal to 37,5 m / s. The rocket projectile weighed 960 kg., It contains 103 kg. explosive, the firing range of this ammunition was a record for its time and was 13,8 km. In addition to the above-named projectiles, the Peony could use a concrete-projectile projectile, a chemical projectile, and a special charge with a nuclear charge.

The choice between active-reactive and high-explosive fragmentation projectiles was made directly at the firing position, depending on the distance to the target. At the same time, high-explosive fragmentation and active-projectiles were projectiles of general use. Due to the enormous power of the 203-mm cannon, these ammunition can be used to destroy almost all types of objects, with the exception of highly in-depth / protected positions and fortifications.

For the destruction of such items used special concrete-shells. A projectile weighing from a centner and meeting speed with a target exceeding Mach 2 could destroy most of the fortifications, ensuring a fairly reliable defeat of the protected objects, which include command posts, ammunition depots, etc.

The use of nuclear ammunition was possible only with the appropriate orders of the higher command. In this case, the shells to the firing positions were to be delivered from special warehouses as part of a guarded convoy. Nuclear shells were designed to destroy very large infrastructure and industrial facilities, as well as large concentrations of enemy troops. The minimum range for firing nuclear ammunition was 18 km., And the maximum - 30 km.

Information sources:
-http: //www.army-guide.com/eng/product1791.html
-http://3v-soft.clan.su/news/samokhodnaja_artillerijskaja_ustanovka_2s7_pion/2010-02-11-91
-http: //worldweapon.ru/tank/pion.php
-http: //ru.wikipedia.org
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  1. Vanek
    +4
    5 February 2013 08: 40
    With the advent of artillery, a confrontation between architects and engineers began. The confrontation of the fortress and siege weapons. ............. The latter won.

    "PION", awesome thing, thing! Modelers, tell me, who knows, is there such a thing in the 35th scale? I can't find it in any way.
    1. +11
      5 February 2013 10: 57
      A year with a penny back for Bati was looking. Found only from resin and at a prohibitive price. Make from cardboard ...
      1. Vanek
        0
        5 February 2013 11: 38
        AAAAAAAAAAA WHERE ????? HOW MUCH IS?????????

        Want Want want.

        Quote: Spade
        Make from cardboard ...


        Alas, not my topic. Only the 35th. Plastic or resin.
        1. +2
          5 February 2013 11: 52
          Quote: Vanek
          Alas, not my topic.

          As far as I understood from the Google translator, the Pole collected only the initial data for a year, another year went to the model itself.

          http://www.panzershop.cz/inshop/
          The site is bad, there is no direct link, type in the search on the site 2S7 PION

          450 resin parts, 138 photo-etched, chiseled barrel, CD with drawings and photo detail. All the luxury for 330 bucks.
          1. Set
            Set
            0
            5 February 2013 12: 14
            Krrrasota !!!!
        2. +2
          5 February 2013 12: 45
          In the Alphamodel online store under the order for 10100 r. Manufacturer - Panzershop, Czech Republic.
          1. Vanek
            0
            6 February 2013 05: 59
            Quote: Evgeniy-111
            under the order for 10100 r


            Yeah, really.

            Quote: Spade
            outrageous price


            Can not argue.
    2. 0
      28 September 2022 15: 20
      Now it's in full swing! ) The main thing is not to get to nuclear weapons !!! ) Although some hot heads should be cooled down! This fluff is just for that!!! )))
  2. +3
    5 February 2013 08: 47
    Oh! At least once in my life I would see how this self-propelled guns shoots live.
    1. +6
      5 February 2013 09: 42
      Quote: RBXize
      Oh! At least once in my life I would see how this self-propelled guns shoots live.
      - Yes, not only you !!!!!!!
      As Yakubovich would say while flying on an airplane:
      -I will give everything so as not to open this black box laughing
      1. Kibb
        +2
        5 February 2013 12: 02
        Quote: evgenii67
        Quote: RBXize
        Oh! At least once in my life I would see how this self-propelled guns shoots live. - But not only you !!!!!!!

        I join, I saw a kavk shoots M105, here some served on the Genocide, but not all shot. Peony dream
        1. Kibb
          0
          5 February 2013 14: 25
          Kibb,
          I wanted to write M107
    2. +3
      5 February 2013 13: 03
      Quote: RBXize
      Oh! At least once in my life I would see how this self-propelled guns shoots live.


      Believe me, nothing supernatural. It's just that the sound from the shot is very low and dull. But impressive. I remember when a high-power platoon fired in the Kolomenskoye VAKU, "PION" was not at the training ground, but at the stadium of the school's field camp. There was not enough distance for shooting at the range, so firing positions were equipped almost in the camp itself.
      1. black_eagle
        0
        5 February 2013 16: 42
        So nothing! I saw how "Carnation" shoots about two hundred meters away, so I jumped higher than my height, and you are nothing ...
        1. 0
          5 February 2013 17: 06
          Large caliber eardrums do not hit much.
      2. 0
        5 February 2013 17: 05
        Is the stadium a clearing east of the canteen and club?
  3. +1
    5 February 2013 11: 17
    Freaky thing. 110 kg of charge and no "Patriot" can shoot down.
    1. Nechai
      +1
      5 February 2013 13: 16
      In the Union, then work was carried out in this direction. With a 203mm projectile, they were not covered in open sources, but the 6-inch one at the Gorokhovets training ground was taken off the trajectory ... But history repeated itself over and over again - the work was closed. Why do our troops need an effective means of collective defense against practically any means of destruction? No need for it! Pampering ... After all, the "rulers" of the Russian Federation do not have enemies abroad, only internal ones and there are many of them, there are a lot of them so far, but work to reduce their number is successfully continuing ...
  4. +4
    5 February 2013 11: 35
    I had a chance to see live once in 1986. at the training ground near Kaliningrad. Brutal contraption! A very powerful argument in any dispute. Refresh guidance systems and have more along the borders. Many of our "friends" will think a lot.
  5. EDW
    EDW
    +1
    5 February 2013 11: 41
    Very impressive, but are there any analogues to a probable opponent?
    1. +1
      5 February 2013 12: 08
      No. The largest caliber 155 mm
      1. +3
        5 February 2013 13: 08
        Quote: Spade
        No. The largest caliber 155 mm


        You are wrong, analogue M 110
        The performance characteristics of self-propelled howitzers M110 and M110A2 (difference in brackets):
        Installation weight, t:
        with fuel, equipment and crew 26,534 (28,35)
        without fuel, equipment and crew 24,312 (25,492)
        Length with barrel forward, m 7,467 (10,731)
        Case length, m 5,72
        Height, m ​​2,93 (3,143)
        Width, m 3,149
        Hull height, m ​​1,475 (1,47)
        Ground clearance, m 0,446 (0,393)
        Maximum speed, km/h 56 (54,7)
        Power reserve, km 725 (523)
        Barrel length, m 5,1 (25 calibers)
        (7,52 (37 calibres))
        The angle of fire in the plane, deg .;
        - vertical from -2 to +65
        - horizontal ±30
        Maximum projectile range, m:
        M106 16 (800)
        M404 16 (800)
        Max Initial
        M106 and M404 projectile speed, m/s 587 (711)
        Portable ammunition, rds 2
        Rate of fire, rds / min 2
        Overcoming obstacles, m:
        wall height 1,01
        ditch width 2,36 (1,90)
        ford 1,06 deep
        Crew 5
        Calculation, people 13

        But as can be seen from the performance characteristics "PION" wins in all respects, which can not but rejoice the heart of the gunner.
        1. +1
          5 February 2013 14: 44
          They already seem to have been retired, replaced by MLRS.
        2. +1
          5 February 2013 16: 16
          USA - withdrawn from service
          Bahrain - 13 M110, as of 2007 [1]
          Belgium - Discontinued [2]
          Great Britain - withdrawn from service [2]
          Germany - Discontinued [2]
          Greece - 134 M110A2, as of 2007 [3]
          Egypt - 144 M110A2 were obtained in 1996 [4]
          Israel - 36 M110, as of 2007 [5]
          Jordan - 82 M110A2, as of 2007 [6]
          Iran - 30 M110, as of 2007 [7]
          Spain - 40 M110A2, as of 2007 [8]
          Italy - Discontinued [2]
          Republic of Korea - 13 M110, as of 2007 [9]
          Morocco - 60 M110, as of 2007 [10]
          Pakistan - 60 M110 / M110A2, as of 2007 [11]
          Republic of China - 60 M110, as of 2007 [12]
          Turkey - 219 M110A2, as of 2007 [13]
          Japan - 90 M110A2, as of 2007 [14]


          There was a model. Italy does.
          1. Kibb
            +1
            5 February 2013 17: 33
            Hi, hi. Indeed, both M110 and M107 were removed, and quite a while ago.
            Maybe a little out of place, but there is a question. As I saw Old, that special ammunition can already be stuffed in 127-130mm, can you say something?
            1. 0
              5 February 2013 17: 37
              Quote: Kibb
              Really shot and M110 and M107, and quite a while ago

              Well, not everywhere. Turkey is definitely in service.
              Quote: Kibb
              127-130mm

              The ways to improve nuclear physics are inscrutable. Personally, I have not heard less than 152-155.
              1. Kibb
                0
                5 February 2013 18: 07
                Quote: Kars
                Turkey is definitely in service

                In service, they can and are officially considered, only that they have not been producing pipes for a long time. Israeli M107 crushed 1998 when firing at 20 km, such a KVO that they could be dangerous only for their own or when using special ammunition, as for the M110 I don’t know
                1. 0
                  5 February 2013 18: 08
                  You have no shells, and by 175 mm they were shot to zero as far back as 1973.
                  1. Kibb
                    0
                    5 February 2013 19: 52
                    I’m writing to you that 1998 were
                    1. +1
                      5 February 2013 20: 05
                      The M107 and M110 are essentially one artillery system with an interchangeable artillery unit (IDFJ, Volume 4, No. 3, 1987, p. 19). So, on 17.10.73/175/107, during the Yom Kippur War, stocks of 203-mm shells were exhausted and the barrels of all M110s were replaced with 354-mm, i.e. ACS converted into M1997 ("Maarehot", # 16, November XNUMX, p. XNUMX). Therefore, it is not entirely clear how the number of these ACS is recorded.

                      http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/ground_forces.htm#artillery

                      And then, as they say, not to me.
                      1. Kibb
                        0
                        5 February 2013 22: 48
                        Quote: Kars
                        Therefore, it is not entirely clear how the quantity of these self-propelled guns is accounted for.

                        You know, I don’t quite understand either, but it was 98 mm that was shot at 175 and then
                        Quote: Kars
                        And then, as they say, not to me.
            2. EDW
              EDW
              0
              5 February 2013 22: 33
              Of course, you can push it ... but it's not so simple.
              At the current level of technology, manufacturing accuracy and requirements for the materials used and the purity of explosives go beyond reasonable limits for mass production. And the reaction initiation is not 100%.
              It’s expensive to put on wholesale production, and piece production will cost a pretty penny.
              A 280+ mm rocket will be two times cheaper and ten times more powerful than a 127mm projectile.
              So the 203mm Peony can be considered a reasonable price / charge power compromise today.
        3. Kibb
          +1
          5 February 2013 17: 54
          Quote: Victor
          But as can be seen from the performance characteristics "PION" wins in all respects, which cannot but please the heart of the gunner

          It can not but rejoice, BUT considering that the M110 rocking chair was developed before WWII, the picture is not so joyful, let’s say friendly thanks ... no this time not to Tukhachevsky, but to Khrushchev. For example, the Syrians simply had nothing to oppose the Israeli M107, the USSR had to reanimate the production of S-23
        4. 0
          13 February 2015 21: 21
          even caliber in your post did not find ...
  6. +6
    5 February 2013 14: 38
    If I am not mistaken, then the coulter of the bulldozer type can be used as a self-entrenching device. what

    ***
    Malka, of course, is impressive. But 2A3 “Condenser” is generally something. Not so much in terms of ballistic characteristics, as in brutal design, monstrous Linkor caliber - 406 mm and projectile weight - 570 kg. good
    1. Moritz
      +3
      5 February 2013 23: 48
      Quote: Iraclius
      Malka, of course, is impressive. But VOOOOT 2A3 "Capacitor" is generally something

      belay agree
      1. 0
        1 August 2015 21: 21
        Full crap - self-destructive after the third shot;
        was never brought to mind, and after 4 years of refinement
        (ironically, 4 prototypes were released)
        recognized as unpromising.
    2. byaka
      0
      1 March 2013 16: 41
      Quote: Iraclius
      If I am not mistaken, then the coulter of the bulldozer type can be used as a self-entrenching device.

      Exactly. A long cord for the headset (communication with the mech.-water.) And a coulter control panel turned out to be a bulldozer, as if backwards.
  7. +2
    5 February 2013 14: 40
    in Perm we have such a charm in the museum of the Motovilikhinsky factory, a terrible beauty ....
    1. bask
      +4
      5 February 2013 18: 27
      In the second half of the 1960's. "Artillery" underwent rehabilitation, a number of programs were launched to create new artillery systems, including self-propelled. The milestone in the history of Russian barrel artillery was the 1967 year. In 1967-1969 work began on the creation of a series of artillery systems of various calibers and purposes. GRAU MO assigned the codes for color names to the development work, and the self-propelled artillery mounts (ACS) created as a result received the 2С indices:
      - 2С1 - 122-mm self-propelled howitzer of the Ground Forces "Gvozdika";
      - 2С2 - 122-mm self-propelled howitzer of the airborne troops "Violet";
      - 2SZ - 152-mm self-propelled howitzer "Acacia";
      - 2С4 - 240-mm self-propelled mortar "Tulip";
      - 2С5 and 2А36 - 152-mm instrument of increased ballistics "Hyacinth", respectively, in self-propelled ("Hyacinth-S") and towed ("Hyacinth-B") versions;
      - 2С7 - 203-mm self-propelled gun "Peony";
      - 2С8 - 120-mm self-propelled mortars "Astra" (for the Ground Forces) and "Lily of the valley" (for the Airborne Forces).

      SAU "Violet". "Astra" and "Lily of the Valley" remained experimental, but the rest of the "bouquet" of modern artillery systems entered service with the Soviet Army. The relevance of these systems is preserved to our days. The seventh "flower" - "Peony", became the strongest in this "artbook".
      1. bask
        0
        13 February 2013 13: 14
        Quote: bask
        - “Peony”, became the strongest in this “art book”.

        It is necessary that in all .art ... divisions the cattle, at least for the division ,, Peonies,
        1. 0
          13 February 2013 17: 28
          There is no such structure for a long time .; In my opinion, it’s already 6 years since the last 34 art division was finished. And if we talk about art brigades, the reading and thinking public will begin to cry
  8. +1
    5 February 2013 15: 09
    There were recently articles by Pione-Malke in "Technics and Armament". Most of all, I was struck by the fact that to limit the mass with the required rigidity, a double body was used - one was, as it were, embedded in the other.
    And on Malka, they simplified the control of the feed mechanism, automated a lot.
    1. bask
      0
      5 February 2013 18: 21
      AI became 1967. In the years 1967-1969. work began on the creation of a series of artillery systems of various calibers and purposes. GRAU MO assigned the codes for color names to the experimental design work, and the self-propelled artillery mounts (ACS) created as a result received 2C indices:
      - 2С1 - 122-mm self-propelled howitzer of the Ground Forces "Gvozdika";
      - 2С2 - 122-mm self-propelled howitzer of the airborne troops "Violet";
      - 2SZ - 152-mm self-propelled howitzer "Acacia";
      - 2С4 - 240-mm self-propelled mortar "Tulip";
      - 2С5 and 2А36 - 152-mm instrument of increased ballistics "Hyacinth", respectively, in self-propelled ("Hyacinth-S") and towed ("Hyacinth-B") versions;
      - 2С7 - 203-mm self-propelled gun "Peony";
      - 2С8 - 120-mm self-propelled mortars "Astra" (for the Ground Forces) and "Lily of the valley" (for the Airborne Forces).

      SAU "Violet". "Astra" and "Lily of the Valley" remained experimental, but the rest of the "bouquet" of modern artillery systems entered service with the Soviet Army. The relevance of these systems is preserved to our days. The seventh "flower" - "Peony", became the strongest in this "artbook".

      Self-propelled artillery 2C7 "Peony"

      SAU 2S7 "Peony" was created since 1967 as a powerful weapon for firing as usual
    2. bask
      0
      5 February 2013 23: 32
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  9. 0
    6 February 2013 00: 20
    If I remember correctly, then "Tulip" can also send a "special" guest for 15 kilometers
    1. EDW
      EDW
      +2
      6 February 2013 01: 37
      That's right. There is also special ammunition for the tulip.
      At 9,5 km it flies in the usual version and 18 km in the active-jet.

      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AF%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%81%D
      0%BD%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8F%D0%B4

      The only ones who tested special ammunition are Amer, (m65, towed, 280mm)
      although against the background of Herosima, this is not even surprising.
    2. byaka
      0
      1 March 2013 16: 44
      Remember correctly. But the gift did not even leave a special funnel, where the Ural could easily enter.
  10. 0
    6 February 2013 00: 23
    Puppy is already very good !!!
  11. EDW
    EDW
    +3
    6 February 2013 02: 01
    Since the Condenser was remembered then the Oka 2B1 should not be forgotten, 280mm, everything is according to Freud smile


    sends special ammunition (mines) at 670kg per 50km.

    here also:
    http://www.rusmed-forever.ru/forum/lofiversion/index.php?t783-100.html
    1. 0
      13 February 2013 18: 57
      This is not a nanotank! THIS also worked! good
  12. DuraLexSedLex.
    +2
    6 February 2013 02: 44
    To eat a monster, in truth made in USSR .... I think with the sight of such a battery in those years, it was possible to overfulfill the plan for the supply of bricks ...
    1. bask
      0
      13 February 2013 11: 40
      Quote: DuraLexSedLex.

      To eat a monster, in truth made in USSR .... I think with the sight of such a battery in those years, it was possible to overfulfill the plan for the supply of bricks ...

    2. bask
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      13 February 2013 12: 53
      Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
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      To eat a monster, in truth made in USSR .... I think with the sight of such a battery in those years, it was possible to overfulfill the plan for the supply of bricks ...







  13. 0
    6 February 2013 23: 53
    Well, great!
  14. 0
    25 February 2013 15: 08
    18-30 km for a nuclear charge is not enough? what
    Although a ground-based nuclear explosion certainly does not have such a shock wave as an air ...
  15. byaka
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    1 March 2013 16: 18
    A funny feature of the gun is the absence of silencers on the engine (it was not planned to use near the front edge in general). Therefore, in addition to the frightening dimensions, the march was also accompanied by a very sickly soundtrack.
    In general - a great artillery system. At one time, there was a serious international uproar, as the Piona was seriously feared as a very mobile and effective means of delivering tactical nuclear charges.
  16. 0
    13 February 2015 21: 28
    militia from ukrov captured this ...
  17. 0
    2 March 2016 01: 16
    here, by the way, one of such ammunition, a very interesting type