In Ukraine, there has been confirmation of the liquidation of Patriot air defense missile systems along with destroyed launchers

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In Ukraine, there has been confirmation of the liquidation of Patriot air defense missile systems along with destroyed launchers

In Ukraine, the first confirmation of the liquidation of crews of Patriot anti-aircraft systems along with launchers in the Pokrovsk area has appeared. Ukrainian media began publishing obituaries.

In the Ukrainian segment of one of the social networks banned in Russia, an obituary appeared about the deceased serviceman of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Pavel Vasilkov. The text says that he died along with his colleagues, “guarding the skies of Ukraine.” Particularly noteworthy is Vasilkov’s photograph, where they are depicted against the background of the American Patriot air defense system. This is another confirmation that the Russian Iskander OTRK missile hit the launchers along with the crews.



Western experts also talk about the death of the crews, also noting that the military personnel guarding the launchers could also have come under attack. As previously stated, American Patriot air defense systems and HIMARS MLRS move only when accompanied by special security groups. At the same time, it is believed that American military personnel who were part of the crew could have been injured during the strike. However, there is no confirmation of this yet.


According to Ukrainian resources, Kyiv has already lost three of the five mobile air defense groups deployed closer to the front, whose task was to hunt Russian fighters. The United States has so far acknowledged the loss of only two Patriot air defense missile launchers, and only at the press level.

Let us recall that on March 9, the Russian Iskander missile system destroyed two Patriot air defense missile launchers located approximately 50 km from the front line in the Pokrovsk (Krasnoarmeysk) area with a missile strike. Initially, it was reported that the S-300 air defense systems of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were hit, but later it was determined that these were American systems.
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  1. +4
    12 March 2024 08: 07
    It won't be enough... Not enough. (With)
    1. +3
      12 March 2024 08: 09
      It won't be enough... Not enough. (With)

      Three out of five is not enough...??? In my opinion, it’s normal... We are not crazy people, so that by shooting at three we can destroy six... laughing
      1. +10
        12 March 2024 08: 10
        Niii, I'm not talking about that at all. I mean that more of these Patriots need to be disposed of.
        If it were five out of five, it would be awesome! good
        1. +7
          12 March 2024 08: 55
          War is war. The enemy must be hit everywhere.
          The enemy must be destroyed. Big bow to the guys!! Well done! This is the life of pilots and our planes and more... One step towards VICTORY!
        2. +5
          12 March 2024 13: 17
          An obituary about the deceased Ukrainian Armed Forces serviceman Pavel Vasilkov appeared in the Ukrainian segment of social networks. The text says that he died along with his colleagues, “guarding the skies of Ukraine.”
          At the same time, it is believed that American military personnel who were part of the crews could have been injured during the strike.

          He guarded not the sky, but Amer’s or Nemchurov’s crews. The Ukrainians pushed back this obituary so as not to harp on the topic of the destruction of the Western military on the outskirts. Yes Otherwise, the entire Internet is already full of information about helicopters that crashed in the states, about the death of glider pilots, missing American deserters or shot themselves... laughing
    2. +3
      12 March 2024 13: 29
      Quote: Nexcom
      The military personnel guarding the launchers could also have come under attack.

      The article says that
      The military personnel guarding the launchers could also have come under attack.
      It was most likely one of the guards. And about
      that during the strike the American military personnel who were part of the crews could also have been injured.
      We need to look at where in the near future, on US territory, an aircraft with military personnel on board will fall...
    3. 0
      13 March 2024 10: 23
      Perhaps this is a misconception to reduce vigilance.
  2. +3
    12 March 2024 08: 08
    “The first confirmation of the death of crews of Patriot anti-aircraft systems along with launchers has appeared” -

    ***
    — Did the crews expect to survive the death of the Patriots? Not patriotic...
    ***
  3. +3
    12 March 2024 08: 09
    So they covered the control cabin, great.
    1. +3
      12 March 2024 09: 35
      Quote from: dmi.pris1
      So they covered the control cabin, great


      The installations there were trashed. Naturally, the control cabins are also trashed.
    2. +1
      12 March 2024 13: 19
      Quote from: dmi.pris1
      So they covered the control cabin, great.

      Judging by the photo, it was covered when changing position. That's why it's so crowded.
      Most likely he was the driver there or something like that. If there is only one obituary about the defenders of the sky, then it is possible that the rest should be looked for in other countries.
  4. -22
    12 March 2024 08: 11
    But I wonder how many of these launchers need to be destroyed in order to somehow compensate for the loss of, say, one A 50? Despite the fact that our dead guys cannot be returned...
    1. -14
      12 March 2024 08: 16
      The Russian Army does not rely so much on data from such flying radars and will not rely on it for a long time until the generals of the old formation retire.
    2. -4
      12 March 2024 08: 24
      Jovanni(Evgenevgen), are you very worried and cannot come to terms with the loss of A 50 and our soldiers? But for some reason, your comment shows undisguised malice about the inequality of losses...
      I can throw some firewood into your firebox... You know, our losses in the Patriotic War were many times greater than the German ones and this is a bitter fact! But the fact is that we won that war. How do you like this arithmetic?
      1. +11
        12 March 2024 08: 51
        In general, I agree, but “our losses in the Patriotic War were many times greater than the German ones” - as for the multiple, it depends on how you look at it. Taking into account the enemy allies, the losses of our army at the end of the war were approximately the same or even less. But taking into account the civilian population, then yes.
        1. +2
          12 March 2024 08: 58
          Vladimir 290, I’m talking about the total losses of 27 million citizens. And the overall losses in equipment are also, unfortunately, greater, but this in no way detracts from the outcome of that war. And many commentators on this forum make malicious comparisons, behind which there is nothing but childish stupidity.
          1. +3
            12 March 2024 08: 59
            Yes, I understand what you mean, so to clarify I wrote about the army
          2. +3
            12 March 2024 09: 52
            Alexander, of course I won’t argue - about the losses and results of the Second World War - this is the truth and the heroism of the ancestors who lived in the USSR, but why are you even comparing the Northern Military District and the Second World War? where are they similar? For me it’s closer to Civil.. although rather in itself..
      2. +1
        12 March 2024 09: 35
        Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
        You know, our losses in the Patriotic War were many times greater than the German ones and this sad fact!

        I don't know this fact. Even the enemy Wikipedia writes about this: 8 million military deaths in the USSR and 5 million in Germany. The irretrievable losses are also not multiples: 11 million in the USSR and 4 million in Germany, plus 8,6 million captured after May 1.6, 9. That is, the irretrievable losses are comparable.
        1. 0
          13 March 2024 07: 29
          Stas157 (Stas), thank you for your participation. If you look at how my debate on this topic began, you should understand what I mean. And the specific losses in people and equipment are secondary here and are given by me only for the sake of argument that despite the huge losses. We crushed this reptile. Let's crush it now!
          You cited figures for human losses from Wikipedia and I will not argue with them. I’ll just give you a hint that Germany’s losses here are listed as total in WW2, and not in the war with the USSR on the Eastern Front. This means that losses in Africa, Western and southern Europe and in our fleet around the world must be subtracted from this figure. Speaking about the multiple losses of the USSR/Germany, I have already clarified that I took the general figures of losses along with the civilian population and relative to the Eastern Front.
          1. +1
            13 March 2024 08: 10
            Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
            German losses here are indicated as general ones in WW2, and not in the war with the USSR on the Eastern Front.

            As I understand it, the losses in the Great Patriotic War (that’s what the article is called) are the losses of the Nazis only on the Eastern Front. The Nazis' losses in World War II were a million more. That is about 9 million people. There is also a separate article about this.
            The Great Patriotic War showed that you can’t throw meat at the Germans. What is needed is a skill that, by the end of the war, the Soviet military leaders had in abundance. In two weeks, the Red Army rolled out the Invincible Kwantung Army, with which the Americans did not know what to do for several years.
            1. 0
              13 March 2024 08: 21
              with which the Americans did not know what to do for several years.
              Why didn't they know? They knew very well and bargained with us for the opening of a Second Front in order to defeat the Kwantung Army with our own hands. And if we had not agreed to such a deal, then it would be unlikely that the United States would get involved in a land war on Chinese territory. They would simply bombard all of Japan with nuclear bombs. Is not it?
              Sometimes I have a nasty question. If the USSR had been the first to create an atomic bomb somewhere by 1944, would we have used it in Germany in order to quickly end the war and destroy the vermin in its lair?
              1. +2
                13 March 2024 08: 35
                The Americans began and used a nuclear bomb. Hitler (Europe) wouldn’t even think twice about it! I don’t know what Stalin would have done. But Soviet troops did not take revenge on the civilian population. They saved it sometimes at the cost of their own lives. The same cannot be said about others. And about the Americans too. They essentially burned two peaceful cities.
                1. 0
                  13 March 2024 09: 08
                  I also don’t know what Stalin would have decided to do if we had had an atomic bomb during the war. That's why I called this question "nasty." We did not carpet bomb German cities, as the Allies did. But when at the beginning of the war they sent the first squadron to bomb Berlin, they considered it lucky to fly and drop at least something on the city, without really thinking about the civilian population. And it was justified under those conditions. And if we had an atomic bomb, and even more so, knowing about Hitler’s plans to create it, do you think we wouldn’t strike first? Or when they now dropped FAB-500, 1500 on Avdeevka or Ugledar, stacking high-rise buildings in these cities on a concrete mound, we were sure. that civilians are not hiding in basements?
                  1. +2
                    13 March 2024 09: 17
                    Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
                    Or when they now dropped FAB-500, 1500 on Avdeevka or Ugledar, stacking high-rise buildings in these cities on a concrete mound, we were sure. that civilians are not hiding in basements?

                    There is no need to feel sorry for us, because we wouldn’t feel sorry for anyone either...
                    In war you have to beat the enemy. The only priority. The rest is secondary. Naturally, we need to try to avoid civilian casualties. But no matter how hard anyone tries, unfortunately, it’s impossible without this.
                    1. +1
                      13 March 2024 09: 28
                      Thanks Stas157 (Stas), I don’t see any contradictions with your position. And I know and remember well the flow from Vysotsky’s song to the poems of the poet S. Gudzenko:
                      We do not need to feel sorry, because we would not spare anyone.
                      We are pure before our battalion commander, as before the Lord God.
                      On the living, they overgrown with blood and clay overcoats,
                      blue flowers bloomed on the graves of the dead.
            2. 0
              14 March 2024 12: 26
              About losses: 4 million Germans died in our prisoner camps - 1 million. We raised more Hans. But the flayers systematically starved 4k1 million.
              + allies Romanians-Romans, Italians, Hungarians, Spanish-Franks, Dutch, etc.
      3. +3
        12 March 2024 11: 30
        Saburov_Alexander53, who are you trying to communicate with? This is either a cypsum or a hamster with thinking like in a sandbox. To compare something with something, to take revenge on someone for something, etc., etc. In the first case, the slave sweats for the owner’s money, but in the second... there’s no point in talking to them at all No, because they are insane.
        1. +1
          13 March 2024 09: 42
          Sergey, if you are talking about Jovanni(Evgenevgen), with whom my discussion began, then it doesn’t look like a cypsum and a hamster. How did he not get figured out after so many years on this forum and was not banned by the site administrator? It’s just that some citizens are more critical of their state. I have quite a few such acquaintances who will not miss an opportunity to remember and “poop” any unpleasant news about our losses. Our unstable fellow citizens have such rottenness.
    3. 0
      12 March 2024 10: 42
      Quote: Jovanni
      how many of these launchers need to be destroyed in order to somehow compensate for the loss of, say, one A 50

      How would you answer your own question?
  5. +4
    12 March 2024 08: 12
    The text says that he died along with his colleagues, “guarding the sky of Ukraine

    Good news.
  6. +5
    12 March 2024 08: 13
    If the homeless people from the security were covered with a copper basin, then the calculations should have clearly been closer to the complex. Let's hope it's bundes or minke whales.
    1. +2
      12 March 2024 09: 58
      I think there is a maximum of one or two advisers for coordination and control, what is so super-complex about this technique that it cannot be mastered in 2 years, especially for those with S-300 experience? it looks like there are yellow and blue crews there, which is proven by the news... although I understand that morally, many would be pleased to think about the completely destroyed striped crews, but the likelihood of this is small - why substitute your specialists if there are Ukrainians?
  7. +3
    12 March 2024 08: 13
    Good reconnaissance work; Based on the photo, they made a reference to the area, sent a drone and struck with an Iskander.
  8. +8
    12 March 2024 08: 16
    Of course there is no confirmation
    And in the meantime:
    A US National Guard helicopter crashed in Texas, media reported.

    Just a coincidence laughing
    1. 0
      12 March 2024 08: 18
      Quote: Siberia55
      Of course there is no confirmation
      And in the meantime:
      A US National Guard helicopter crashed in Texas, media reported.

      Just a coincidence laughing

      Black Hawk Down, take two?)) They don’t indicate the number of deaths?
      1. +2
        12 March 2024 08: 21
        Well, somehow your people need to justify unexpected coffins
  9. +5
    12 March 2024 08: 17
    More obituaries like this. Until they see the light. Or until all the skakuas are extinct.
  10. +5
    12 March 2024 08: 18
    Oh, how nice! If we take into account the calculations, then there were a hundred pounds and amers there.
  11. +7
    12 March 2024 08: 19
    confirmation of the elimination of crews of Patriot anti-aircraft systems along with launchers
    Watching the boom detonate, it is clear that whoever was there did not survive. They died and died. Next in line are the following.
    1. +3
      12 March 2024 08: 26
      Quote: rotmistr60
      confirmation of the elimination of crews of Patriot anti-aircraft systems along with launchers
      Watching the boom detonate, it is clear that whoever was there did not survive. They died and died. Next in line are the following.

      The fireworks were definitely fabulous. Just a sight for sore eyes.
  12. +2
    12 March 2024 08: 24
    Quote: Lomaster
    More obituaries like this. Until they see the light. Or until all the skakuas are extinct.

    Most of those smarter ones left long ago. A colleague’s daughter has already registered in Italy. Those left were either bruised on the head, or those who were unable to leave purely for technical reasons. Another colleague has an uncle in Kyiv. When it was possible to go, my wife was sick, but now there is absolutely no way to go towards Russia, the Gestapo is working seriously on them.
    So yes. The overwhelming majority remained sad in mind. By the way, you can read about such people from Vershigora, “Raid on San and Vistula.”
  13. +4
    12 March 2024 08: 26
    The patriots and chimeras disposed of along with their “crews” are the icing on the cake of our victories. And it’s especially nice if there were (surely were) foreign instructors among the crews.
  14. +1
    12 March 2024 08: 39
    Meanwhile, somewhere in Wisconsin, USA, a helicopter allegedly crashed, minus 5 people. And who prevents the minke whales from masking their losses in 404 in this way? No one, and there are many bases, losses can be spread endlessly.
  15. +3
    12 March 2024 08: 45
    Pavlo died because life was...oh
  16. +4
    12 March 2024 09: 28
    Confirmations appeared in Ukraine liquidation of crews of the Patrio air defense systemt along with destroyed launchers

    Western experts also talk about the death of the crews, also noting that they could also have come under attack military personnel guarding the launchers.


    the article in the title is about the death of mattresses along with the air defense system, but in fact - facts only about the protection of the air defense system
    need facts about mattresses
    1. -1
      12 March 2024 10: 46
      Quote: Dedok
      need facts about mattresses

      Who will admit it? Especially considering that everything is in the trash, there is no evidence and there is nothing even scraped together for DNA analysis.
  17. +2
    12 March 2024 11: 10
    Ukrainian Armed Forces serviceman Pavlo Vasilkov was apparently the only Ukrainian in the crew who was hit by a Patriot air defense missile. He must have been the driver
  18. +1
    12 March 2024 16: 02
    Those who talk about the annexation of Galicia either do not understand the essence of the problem or are disingenuous. The national identity of the Hutsuls is based on rejection of everything Russian and hatred of everything Russian. Their rejection is worse than the rejection of the Balts. They despise the Eastern Little Russians as second-class people. What connects Russians and Hutsuls? Nothing. Having accepted them into your family, wait for the demands of national autonomy. There is no need to re-educate anyone. This will backfire.