The sinking of the ship is just around the corner: the French press praised the mission of the German frigate in the Red Sea

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The sinking of the ship is just around the corner: the French press praised the mission of the German frigate in the Red Sea

On February 124, the German air defense frigate Hessen of the F8 Sachsen project set off for the Red Sea with pompous speeches to carry out a mission to protect merchant ships from Houthi attacks. However, in the end there was a threat of drowning himself.

This will be the most serious battle of the German fleet for many decades. Hessen will be able to show itself to the fullest, this is kind of our gold standard. The crew of 240 sailors is 100 percent prepared to deal with the threat. You can rely on us in every way

- stated the German Navy.



While operating in the Red Sea, on the night of February 26-27, the frigate's crew detected a drone that was not identified and was considered hostile. Two SM2 anti-aircraft missiles were fired at it, but they failed to hit the UAV due to a “technical defect” and crashed into the sea, Spiegel reported. The target turned out to be an American MQ-9A Reaper drone.

The Augen geradeaus blog came out in defense of the frigate's crew, pointing out that the US drone did not activate the IFF [identification friend or foe] system. The German Ministry of Defense justified the opening of fire by saying that no allied forces reported the presence of Reapers in the area.

The sequence of actions is described in the instructions. The drone was clearly classified as hostile. I would do exactly the same as the ship's commander

- says Vice Admiral Kaak, Inspector of the Navy.



As the Ministry of Defense explained, a check was carried out to determine why the American drone was not clearly identified, after which the shortcomings were eliminated. However, as the French publication Opex360 believes, assessing the combat effectiveness of Hessen, the essence of the problem is not even “friendly fire”, but in the unsuccessful attempt of an air defense frigate to hit an air target. But that’s not all.

This incident is perhaps not the most alarming for the German Navy. 24 hours later, a German frigate shot down two UAVs, one with a 76mm gun and the other with a RIM-116 anti-aircraft missile. However, the range of this weapons is approximately 9 km. So far this is still “not minus one combat unit,” but such a scenario is not far off

says the French edition.

This means close approach drones Houthis to the German frigate, which could ultimately lead to its sinking.



To date, there have been reports that Hessen, having used up the ammunition of its anti-aircraft systems, is forced to leave the Red Sea, at least for a while.
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  1. +6
    29 February 2024 14: 24
    I propose to rename this galosh “Velhelm Gustlov”. Or at Deutsche Titanic.
    1. +5
      29 February 2024 14: 38
      You can count on us in every way.
    2. 0
      29 February 2024 15: 16
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      I propose to rename this galosh “Velhelm Gustlov”.

      I hope there is a Marinesco among the Houthis. laughing
      1. +3
        29 February 2024 15: 24
        According to Marinesko's tactics, this is not modern. Nowadays they peck at flocks of drones, certainly in flocks. They will be able to fight off singles.
        1. 0
          29 February 2024 15: 26
          But for Marinesko’s “Velhelm Gustlov” this is just the thing.
  2. +3
    29 February 2024 14: 27
    Oh mein Gott! What an embarrassment befell the descendants of the Teutonic knights! Well, at least the frigate returns to base without a hole in the hull.
    1. +13
      29 February 2024 14: 48
      Quote: Montezuma
      Well, at least without a hole in the hull the frigate returns to base

      What's good about this? wink
      1. +10
        29 February 2024 14: 54
        Quote: Dutchman Michel
        What's good about this?

        I understand you, I’ll correct myself, I’ll definitely take it into account next time. And now I just wanted to emphasize that they were very lucky.
        1. +3
          29 February 2024 22: 05
          The good thing is that, according to the German Ministry of Defense, ammunition for arming this “galosh” is NO LONGER being produced and therefore it is being withdrawn from the Red Sea so that the evil Houthis do not clog the boat with slippers!
  3. +4
    29 February 2024 14: 28
    Did they manage to tell the Germans that they had arrived for the war? But the guys in slippers immediately congratulated them on their arrival with two “flowers”, the hint didn’t get through...
  4. HAM
    +13
    29 February 2024 14: 30
    The French are gloating.....Europe is so united!!!! laughing
    1. +8
      29 February 2024 14: 38
      Quote: HAM
      The French are gloating.....Europe is so united!!!!

      Since the time of Maupassant, I feel that the French have not increased their love for the Germans and vice versa. It’s a sacred thing for the French to trample on in German...how can I say this more censoriously?
      Let's see - the German "Bilds" will not keep you waiting long for an answer.
      1. HAM
        +5
        29 February 2024 14: 41
        Mikron and Scholz have already barked, either the schnapps is bad, or the champagne is sour...
        1. +4
          29 February 2024 14: 43
          Quote: HAM
          Mikron and Scholz have already barked, either the schnapps is bad, or the champagne is sour...

          There is no point in mixing schnapps with champagne - then drinking buddies won’t fight. Otherwise, they’ll get drunk on “Polar Bear” and let’s play tricks...

          Let them slowly get used to Russian vodka. It will come in handy...
          1. +2
            3 March 2024 01: 36
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Let them slowly get used to Russian vodka. It will come in handy...

            Will not work. Russian vodka is under sanctions.
        2. +6
          29 February 2024 16: 48
          Quote: HAM
          Mikron and Scholz have already barked, either the schnapps is bad, or the champagne is sour...

          It’s just that these two bad guys will not share the position of the eldest female in Beadon’s harem.
      2. HAM
        +4
        29 February 2024 15: 25
        In the old French film "The Long Walk" with Louis de Funes in the role, the Germans were made out to be idiots, and the British at the same time... and the French are such heroes... feel
        1. +4
          29 February 2024 16: 22
          Quote: HAM
          In the old French film "The Long Walk" with Louis de Funes

          That's why I don't watch it.
          “Fantomasov”, “Razinya”, “Megalomania” or “Little Bather” and I don’t remember how many times I watched it. But I don’t like “The Big Walk.”
          With all my “love” for the Germans - well, they’re not really like that! Have the frog eaters forgotten the occupation of Paris? I just want to say to the French: “Don’t believe de Funes about the Germans! Read Maupassant’s “Pumpkin” and “Two Friends.”
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    2. +4
      29 February 2024 14: 39
      Quote: HAM
      The French are gloating.

      They probably managed to scrape off the manure from the streets of Paris, and now they can make fun of their neighbor. Yes
  5. +5
    29 February 2024 14: 43
    To date, there have been reports that Hessen, having used up the ammunition of its anti-aircraft systems, is forced to leave the Red Sea, at least for a while.
    ... What was it?
    1. +3
      29 February 2024 14: 53
      Show off. ................, like, we have a coalition, but the Houthis have their own number of troops, like, but we are an army.
      1. +6
        29 February 2024 14: 55
        Against the backdrop of all Western power, the Houthis look... they look good and do what they need!
        1. +3
          29 February 2024 18: 47
          Quote: rocket757
          Against the backdrop of all Western power, the Houthis look... they look good and do what they need!

          And they can’t do anything about them. The main thing is that the Houthis stubbornly continue am am intended
          1. +2
            1 March 2024 07: 41
            Hi Dmitry soldier
            It turns out very revealing! The stripes and their henchmen no longer want to attack the enemy, who is motivated and persistent in his actions.
            That is, they now have the Afghan syndrome in full bloom and it doesn’t matter that they don’t talk about it, THEY REMEMBER IT!
            1. +1
              1 March 2024 08: 37
              Quote: rocket757
              ..... That is, they now have the Afghan syndrome in full bloom and no matter what they don’t say about it, THEY REMEMBER IT!

              Serves them right! Come up with the hell of it, and then quit and recourse recourse and start thinking about saving. hi
              1. +2
                1 March 2024 09: 54
                What savings??? The shop has grown and the sharing participants have lost their shores!
                SOMEONE the most important decided that this had to end and gave the correct command. This is the only way things like this are done.
                1. +1
                  1 March 2024 11: 07
                  Quote: rocket757
                  What savings??? .....

                  Reduction plans in the US Army. Among special forces, trainers, etc....
                  In general, they always had a lot of programs started, money for the defense industry
                  spent without regret, despite some failures.
                  1. +1
                    1 March 2024 11: 54
                    “isolated failures”... Dmitry, have you seen the movie “Man of the Age of Objection”? Just about SEPARATE LUCK.
                    And so, their cousins ​​from the islands, accurately noticed that minke whales try ALL METHODS until they find at least one, necessary, effective...
                    This is neither good nor bad, it is the way it is and they can afford it.
                    1. +1
                      1 March 2024 13: 06
                      Quote: rocket757
                      ..... This is neither good nor bad, it is how it is and they can afford it.

                      Victor, there is also a completely different topic here. The French newspaper gloats over the Germans, but they themselves, oh well...
                      I don’t remember about the movie....maybe I was little then? I'll look about this movie online hi
                      1. +1
                        1 March 2024 13: 50
                        The film is cool, starring Danny DeVito, which is always interesting...
                      2. +2
                        1 March 2024 15: 00
                        DeVito

                        I know. Small, humorous, positive. But I didn’t watch the film, it was small then.
                        However, now the time has come for the evil dwarfs. The French Macron can be counted among them. request He jumps higher so that they would notice, he doesn’t care about his own people, about farmers, about others..... Attempts in Ukraine for something, in Armenia.... To show off in front of Putin, or what? Remind me that he considers himself a Napoleon..... I’ll leave now, Victor hi
    2. +4
      29 February 2024 14: 55
      He left, but promised to return for another portion of Lyula from the Houthis
    3. +4
      29 February 2024 18: 44
      Quote: rocket757
      To date, there have been reports that Hessen, having used up the ammunition of its anti-aircraft systems, is forced to leave the Red Sea, at least for a while.
      ... What was it?

      It was a shame! Because, despite 2 radars, they did not hit the American drone with a wingspan of 20 meters and $$$ 30. And then the German deputy defense expert (I’m embarrassed to write his name correctly) said
      some of the ammunition ,,,,,,, cannot be replenished ,,,,,,,, corresponding industrial capacities do not exist

      request What a HORROR!
      What intrigue could there have been if the Germans had shot down this drone?
      1. +2
        1 March 2024 07: 42
        The Gay Europeans have relaxed, accustomed to living under the cover of their big brother... although, it must be admitted, they are a rug under his feet, HIS Rug.
        1. +2
          1 March 2024 08: 31
          Have a nice day, Victor! wink There were also explanations from that German deputy that these are radars for targets in the North Sea..... And what, no way in the Red Sea??
          Quote: rocket757
          The Gay Europeans have relaxed, accustomed to living under the cover of their big brother... although, it must be admitted, they are a rug under his feet, HIS Rug.

          It must be said that there was no need to cover up these gay Europeans yet. No reason. This is some kind of infantilism. It’s just that with the destruction of the USSR, they somehow became stupid with joy, or something. But Russophobia and anger have not gone away
          1. +1
            1 March 2024 09: 51
            Should/shouldn’t they have covered it up, that’s not the question anymore... they were so used to it, they were so comfortable.
            1. +2
              1 March 2024 15: 06
              After all, in the post-war years no one was going to attack them. And after the destruction of the USSR, CMEA, Warsaw. agreement --- even more so. They wanted to be friends against the USSR and the Russian Federation. Yes, probably.
      2. +2
        2 March 2024 16: 07
        Quote: Reptiloid
        What intrigue could there have been if the Germans had shot down this drone?

        That would be a great story! The Yankees would have lost 30 million on Tripper and would probably have demanded compensation from the Deutschers for the damage caused.
        BayDown would express his deepest condolences to the family members of the downed man drone... Well, everything is as usual ... after a conversation with Helmut Kohl or Queen Elizabeth - his constant interlocutors. lol
        1. +1
          2 March 2024 23: 47
          Quote: BoA KAA
          ..... That would be a great story! The Yankees would have lost 30 million on Tripper and would probably have demanded compensation from the Deutschers for the damage caused.
          BayDown would express his deepest condolences to the family members of the downed man drone... ..... lol

          laughing I agree, but I think that’s not all! Trump would really start talking! And about
          that the United States will leave NATO, and about worthless Europeans! hi
    4. +2
      2 March 2024 16: 27
      Quote: rocket757
      What was that?

      My assumptions:
      1. electronic bookmarks in the SM-2 missile control system;
      2. The REP complex activated and disabled the missile defense systems.
      3. the ship's automated control system was reset due to the low speed of the computer.
      It seems history has repeated itself. The Bismarck LK had powerful anti-aircraft weapons, but was unable to shoot down a single English Swordfish biplane torpedo bomber, lifted from the Ark Royal. It is believed that the reason was that the ZOS firing machine guns were designed for a minimum speed of 250 km/h, and the Swordfish had a ceremonial speed of only 180 km/h. The Germans did not count on such a trick!
      Apparently, here too, the ship’s BIUS (radar) considered that the MQ-9 (due to its “stealth”) was atmospheric interference and reset the missile guidance.
      But this is just a guess. Yeah.
      1. 0
        2 March 2024 20: 30
        The versions are very different... we can neither confirm nor deny...
        Oh, not even the fog of war... they will muddy/stupid/pretend, no one will tell the truth.
  6. +3
    29 February 2024 14: 49
    Hessen, having used up the ammunition of its anti-aircraft systems, is forced to leave

    Shaw, he shot twice and that’s it? Somehow it's not enough...
    1. +4
      29 February 2024 15: 02
      They probably wanted to scare everyone with their mere presence. Like, we're from NATO.
  7. +3
    29 February 2024 15: 01
    Most likely, having tested their shipborne air defense systems in combat conditions, they discovered serious shortcomings. They come back to fix it. But they will return, I would not underestimate the Germans.
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  9. +3
    29 February 2024 15: 36
    Yes, hit your UAV with two missiles and miss the bottom, not the bottom.
  10. 0
    29 February 2024 15: 42
    This would be the most serious battle of the German fleet for many decades. Hessen will be able to show itself to the fullest, this is kind of our gold standard. The crew of 240 sailors is 100 percent prepared to deal with the threat. You can rely on us in all respects, the German Navy said.
    The Houthis will highly appreciate the efforts of the German sailors below the water line.
    The sequence of actions is described in the instructions. The drone was clearly classified as hostile. I would do exactly the same as the ship's commander

    - says Vice Admiral Kaak, Inspector of the Navy.
    The sequence is also described when leaving the ship. But the captain is the last...
    This incident is perhaps not the most alarming for the German Navy. 24 hours later, a German frigate shot down two UAVs, one with a 76mm gun and the other with a RIM-116 anti-aircraft missile. However, the range of this weapon is approximately 9 km. So far this is still “not minus one combat unit,” but such a scenario is not far off

    says the French edition.
    The French press, as always, is worried about the German Navy. If only the newspaper's circulation did not decrease crying request Where are the shores of Germany and where are the Houthis, who is looking for whom is a huge question... what But for anti-ship missiles and UAVs, it doesn’t matter who is looking for whom. Automatic guidance system recourse
  11. +1
    29 February 2024 16: 15
    This incident is perhaps not the most alarming for the German Navy. 24 hours later, a German frigate shot down two UAVs, one with a 76mm gun and the other with a RIM-116 anti-aircraft missile. However, the range of this weapon is approximately 9 km.

    It all depends on the size of the UAV. If these were small drones, then it’s not surprising that they were shot down at a distance of 9 km.
  12. +1
    29 February 2024 16: 45
    forced to leave the Red Sea, at least for a while.

    The German ran away with nothing, to put it bluntly...But how they praised him
  13. +1
    29 February 2024 16: 46
    We are waiting with hope - don’t let the Houthis down laughing
  14. 0
    29 February 2024 17: 08
    This is a good reason to shoot down NATO reconnaissance aircraft over the Black Sea. They confused it with a rocket...., the transponder was not turned on. Wah-wah... Sorry if that's the case.
  15. -1
    29 February 2024 18: 21
    The sinking of the ship is just around the corner: the French press praised the mission of the German frigate in the Red Sea

    Marinesko is not enough for them. At their trough.
  16. 0
    29 February 2024 20: 03
    Fifteen maritime drones from different angles at night in the fog. Simultaneously with the raid of quadrocopters. Have you tried incendiaries?
  17. -1
    2 March 2024 05: 47
    Maybe it’s time to start supplying the Houthis with anti-ship weapons??!!!!!
    American, French, German, English weapons are hitting our Military, our Cities, our Residents.
    There, maybe “our” Power will remember that it is Russian? Or whose “SHE”????
    Then we will admire how long foreign galoshes will float in the Red Sea.
  18. -1
    2 March 2024 08: 00
    So far the score is not in our favor 20:0 (8 sunk ships of the Black Sea Fleet + 12 damaged) When will the score be at least 20:20?
  19. 0
    2 March 2024 08: 52
    Only I have a question - how is it that the air defense frigate, after launching 3 missiles (according to the data in the article), ran out of these missiles? So much so that the last drone had to be shot down with a cannon? There is 3-4 missiles for air defense??? And there is no provision for recharging? Or did the Germans have a system failure that meant they were no longer able to use the air defense system?
  20. 0
    2 March 2024 09: 08
    Something quickly ran out of ammunition and was shot. They shoot at everything that flies or what???
  21. kig
    0
    2 March 2024 09: 36
    Nothing strange. The French never liked the Germans, and vice versa. So bullying and trolling are understandable. They don’t touch the British, whose ship recently entered Gibraltar to replenish ammunition
  22. -1
    2 March 2024 10: 18
    The Houthis are acting a little incorrectly; they should not try to hit the side projection, but the rear one or the screws so that there is no movement; the nets will also come down with a metal cable and some kind of iron blanks, and then Ales will kaput knock out the anti-missiles and then calmly sink this trough
  23. 0
    7 March 2024 12: 47
    I understand that it’s unlikely that anyone will read my amateurish comments, but this is what I remember: very heated discussions of this ship (here on VO) they used it as an example for our galoshes, and how fast it is and how equipped it is, etc. uh...but it turned out..oh that's all.