“We will lose, NATO will split”: Senate Democratic leader predicts US defeat due to lack of money for Ukraine

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“We will lose, NATO will split”: Senate Democratic leader predicts US defeat due to lack of money for Ukraine

Ukraine is on the verge of defeat, NATO could collapse, and allies will turn their backs on the United States unless Congress provides additional funding to Kyiv. This statement was made by Senate Democratic Majority Leader Chuck Schumer.

The meeting that took place the day before at the White House with the participation of the US President and the leaders of Congress again ended in nothing; Biden and Schumer failed to persuade Michael Johnson to accept the bill proposed by the Senate to allocate funding to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan. The Republican majority leader in the House of Representatives continues to link the allocation of money to Kyiv to the southern border of the United States. In general, first we finance the fence on the border with Mexico, and only then Zelensky’s wishes.



Schumer did not like Johnson’s refusal very much, who immediately made a statement in the style: “everything is gone, the cast is being removed, the client is leaving.” According to him, if Kyiv is left without money, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will lose, and NATO will collapse. Yes, the allies will not understand if the United States abandons the “young democracy.”

There was a consensus in this room that Zelensky and Ukraine will lose the war if we do not provide weapons and do it quickly (...) We cannot postpone this issue for months, because if this happens, then we will lose the conflict, NATO may split, and our allies will turn their backs on us

- said Schumer, adding that Johnson was put under pressure by everyone - the president, the Republican minority leader in the Senate McConnell and Schumer himself, but he did not change his position.
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  1. +2
    28 February 2024 09: 39
    “We will lose, NATO will split”

    Why the hell would you go to war if you know that you will lose?
    1. +3
      28 February 2024 09: 44
      Ukraine is on the verge of defeat, NATO may fall apart, and its allies will turn away from the United States
      Quite a real scenario! This is what you strive for....
    2. +4
      28 February 2024 09: 48
      I’ll tell you a secret - the outskirts will lose with American help, but with much greater territorial losses.
      1. -1
        28 February 2024 10: 29
        ... and human for us.
        That is the problem.
    3. 0
      28 February 2024 10: 01
      So they counted on a quick counter-grunt with access to the borders in 1991 and a “revolution” in Russia. But something went wrong. Now it turns out that much more money needs to be invested than expected, and the result is not guaranteed.
      1. 0
        28 February 2024 10: 09
        “We will lose, NATO will split”: Senate Democratic leader predicts US defeat due to lack of money for Ukraine
        I can't believe that the printing press is broken.
    4. 0
      28 February 2024 10: 10
      Dimon, can’t you see the hypocrisy of this chak-chak, all these statements are only for one thing, to continue what was started as long as possible, it’s scary that the partners executing this order are not against it...
  2. +1
    28 February 2024 09: 53
    Schumer says everything correctly, lists all the terrible things for America: the collapse of NATO, the loss of allies, the loss of world hegemony... He only builds the wrong cause-and-effect relationships. “Give Ukraine money and it will win. And there won’t be any of these horrors.”

    They will anyway. They will give or not give money. Like with lend-lease during the Great Patriotic War. Our liberota says that we would not have won without him. And I say that everything would be the same. Perhaps not on May 9, perhaps not even in 1945, but it would have ended exactly the same.
    So it is here. No matter what they give, Schumer’s predictions will come true. And to avoid this, you don’t need to get in deeper, but run away as far as possible.
    1. +2
      28 February 2024 10: 11
      They are inflaming the whore of Europe, they don’t need it, let everything burn with fire, only for their benefit.
  3. +2
    28 February 2024 09: 54
    You should have thought earlier, Mr. Schumer, when your “analysts” (fools) decided to fight with a power that, due to the possession of a full-fledged nuclear triad, cannot afford the luxury of losing. Now get rid of the troubles and don’t ask, “What are we in for?”
    1. 0
      28 February 2024 10: 38
      Well... you know... I would agree with you if I hadn’t had before my eyes the sad experience of the USSR, which, having everything, even allowed itself this luxury...
      And today’s Russia, which preaches capitalism “with a human face” and has raised a “qualified consumer”...
      You can see for yourself that on LBS there is one Russia, but in Moscow it is completely different... (
      And this gap cannot be bridged by evening performances on TV.
      1. +1
        28 February 2024 10: 56
        Quote: I dare_notice_
        Well... you know... I would agree with you if I hadn’t had before my eyes the sad experience of the USSR, which, having everything, even allowed itself this luxury...

        However, you must admit that the conditions “then and now” in terms of choice were still different for a nuclear power. Then the political leadership, under the reassuring speeches of the West, surrendered and disarmed, citing the detente of tension and the movement towards universal peace, and now the West has openly declared that its goal is the destruction of Russia and, in principle, left us no choice, nor itself.
        The situation is such that “Giving back” means admitting your political insolvency, which acts equally for both sides, and this is already fraught with a transition to an exchange of nuclear strikes and the destruction of one of the parties, or to mutual destruction.
        Whatever you say, back then mattresses still had an analytical school that calculated the steps and their consequences at least 20 years in advance, and today they have analysts who are not at all able to analyze the consequences of their decisions beyond 2-3 years.
        1. +1
          28 February 2024 13: 22
          The 25 participants who are “already tired of Putin” would disagree with you.
          They want it to be “like before”...
          And in these elections there will be an attempt to return everything to the backside.
          Russian society is not as consolidated as V. Soloviev and Co. tells us.
          Soon we will see everyone's mug.
          1. +1
            28 February 2024 14: 40
            Quote: I dare_notice_
            The 25 participants who are “already tired of Putin” would disagree with you.
            They want it to be “like before”...
            And in these elections there will be an attempt to return everything to the backside.

            It will no longer be possible to put everything back. The people won't understand. The path to the West is wrong, the path to the East is thorny and also wrong. Russia must be self-sufficient and independent from either the West or the East and build relationships with everyone only on terms that are favorable to itself. However, to do this, you need to plow and restore, as quickly as possible, what was destroyed in 30 years. As J.V. Stalin said in 1931, “We are 50-100 years behind the advanced countries. We must cover this distance in 10 years. Either we do this, or we will be crushed,” and they did, carrying out electrification and industrialization of the country in a short time, which made it possible to survive in 1941-45. In order for things to go faster, all outspoken liberals need to be employed in Kolyma and replaced with statists. It is clear that it will not be easy, but there will also be no return to friendship with the West.
            1. +1
              28 February 2024 15: 56
              Difficult tasks require difficult decisions that no one would dare to make today.
          2. 0
            28 February 2024 20: 22
            Quote: I dare_notice_
            Russian society is not as consolidated as V. Soloviev and Co. tells us.

            Russians' instinct for preserving the state is, on average, even more developed than Putin's. As long as Putin does not bend to the West, people will believe him. Perestroika and friendship with the United States from 1988 to 2008 for the Russian people was a greater disaster than the war of 1941-1945. Approximating this historical event, we can predict that a thermonuclear war against NATO will be a lesser evil than reconciliation with the United States on the terms of Biden and McFaul. By the way, unlike Putin, Stalin gave in to slack in 1941 and initiated territorial concessions to Germany for an armistice.
  4. +3
    28 February 2024 10: 10
    Oh, it’s too early to bury Pindostan and NATO, they are already on the outskirts and are not going to leave, they want to master what they bit off under the traitor. Poland is swollen with weapons, it’s overflowing.
    1. 0
      28 February 2024 10: 41
      I remembered about Poland:
      - Daddy, pour some more and go away. (With)
  5. 0
    28 February 2024 10: 15
    How does he sing?
    All this whining is aimed only at increasing the allocation of money for “Ukraine”, and in the end, to replenish their own pockets, they nag.
  6. 0
    28 February 2024 10: 28
    “We will lose, NATO will split”
    The demos have the same situation as comrade. Saakhova.
    "Either I take her to the registry office or she takes me to the prosecutor's office."
    Failure in Ukraine will launch processes as a result of which the republics will close the demos and deprive them of access to power for a long time.
    Therefore... This... leader with the letter "Py" acts on the principle of getting out of a hopeless situation. I. Susanina:
    “When leaving a hopeless situation, make it (the situation) hopeless for everyone!”
    trying to “dirty” the reps by voting for further allocation (read: cutting) of funds for an obviously dead project.
    From the point of view repov: what’s the point of voting (voting) if you don’t have the opportunity to participate in the cutting?
    Nothing personal...
  7. 0
    28 February 2024 11: 16
    Ukraine is on the verge of defeat, NATO may fall apart, and its allies will turn away from the United States
    And everything turns out to depend only on the allocation of money. And before that, how many hundreds of billions were allocated, filled with weapons, including rocket, all of Europe and the Anglo-Saxons worked tirelessly and this helped Ukraine not to be on the verge of defeat? It won't help now. Get ready for the worst case scenario, the world's "knuckleheads".
  8. 0
    28 February 2024 11: 45
    Sumer, as soon as he heard that they were all Sumerians, loved them like family.