Klim Voroshilov: a car for war

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World's First Heavy Tank Reservation Tank

Klim Voroshilov: a car for war


Heavy tank KV-1А, raised from the bottom of the Neva in spring 2003 of the year

In accordance with the decision of the USSR Defense Committee at the end of 1938 in SKB-2 of the Kirov plant in Leningrad (chief designer J. Ya. Kotin), the design of a new heavy tank with protivosnaryadnym reservation, called QMS (Sergey Mironovich Kirov). The development of another heavy tank, called the T-100, was engaged in the Leningrad Experimental Engineering Plant named after Kirov (factory number 185). In parallel with the QMS, a design for a single-tower KV heavy tank was developed.

The leading designer of the SMK tank was A.S. Ermolaev. The initial project envisaged the creation of a three-towed machine with a mass of 55 tons. In the process, one tower was abandoned, and the saved weight was sent to armor thickening. In parallel with the QMS group of graduates of the Military Academy of Mechanization and Motorization. Stalin, who had practice at the Kirov Plant, under the leadership of L.Ye. Sychev and A.S. Yermolaev, a project of a single-mounted heavy KV tank (Klim Voroshilov) was developed. As a matter of fact, the KV was a reduced-length, two QM road wheels with one turret and a diesel engine. At the final stage of the design of a one-tower tank, N. L. Dukhov was appointed the lead designer of the project.

In August 1939, the KV tank was manufactured in metal, and at the end of September participated in the demonstration of new models of armored vehicles at the NIBT range in Kubinka. In October, began factory tests. In November, the first prototype of the tank was sent to the front on the Karelian Isthmus to participate in hostilities against the Finns. 19 December 1939, the KV tank was adopted by the Red Army.

Serial production of KV tanks with 76-mm cannons (“tanks with a small turret”) and quickly developed from the experience of fighting on the Mannerheim line KV tanks with 152-mm howitzers (“tanks with a big turret”) began in February 1940, at the Leningrad Kirov factory (LKZ). Until the end of the year, the Kirov Plant was able to manufacture an 243 tank (139 KV-1 and 104 KV-2), fully following the plan above. In accordance with the resolution of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR and the Central Committee of the CPSU (b) of 19 June 1940, the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant (CTZ) had to be connected to the KV output. December 31 1940, the pilot assembly of the first UF UF was made. At the same time, the construction of a special building for the assembly of heavy tanks began in Chelyabinsk.


This tank KV-2 was stopped only by hitting the left caterpillar

The production plan for 1941 year included the release of 1200 KV tanks. Of these, at the Kirov factory - 1000, at CTZ - 200. However, the war made adjustments to this plan. By the beginning of the war in Chelyabinsk, the entire 25 KV-1 was manufactured, and the production of the KV-2 was never mastered. In total, in the first half of 1941, the 393 of the KV tank was manufactured.

The hull of the KV-1 was welded from rolled armor plates, the maximum thickness of which reached 75 mm. The tower was made in two versions - welded and cast. The maximum thickness of armor welded towers reached 75 mm, cast - 95 mm. In 1941, the armor thickness of the welded towers was brought to 105 mm by installing 25-mm screens, which were fastened with bolts.

On the tanks of the first issues, the X-NUMX-mm L-76 gun was installed, then the F-11 of the same caliber, and from the end of October 32, the 1941-mm ZIS-76 gun. In addition, the tank was armed with three machine guns - paired, course and aft. On the part of the machines was installed and anti-aircraft machine gun DT. The ammunition consisted of 5 cannon shots and 135 cartridges for machine guns.

12-cylinder V-shaped diesel V-2K with power 600 l. with. allowed the 47,5-ton war machine to reach 34 km / h. Cruising on the highway was 250 km. The crew consisted of five people.

The main difference of the KV-2 tank was the installation of a new large tower. The overall height of the machine has reached 3240 mm. The 152-mm M-10 tank howitzer of the 1938-1940 sample of the 36 model and the DT machine gun paired with it were installed in the turret, in a mask, covered with an outside armor cover. There was a door in the stern of the tower, next to which another DT was located in the ball bearing. The tank also has a course machine gun in the front hull sheet. The ammunition consisted of separate charging 3087 shots and 1 cartridges. The power plant, power transmission, running gear, electrical and radio equipment remained the same as on the KV-2. Tank KV-1 was released in limited quantities, and after the start of World War II from 1941 in July XNUMX, its production was stopped.


KB-1

As of 1 June 1941, the troops had an 504 KV tank. Of this amount, most were in the Kiev Special Military District - 278 machines. The Western Special Military District had 116 KV tanks, the Baltic Special One - 59, Odessa - 10. In the Leningrad Military District there were 6 tanks KV, in Moscow - 4, in the Volga region - 19, in Orlovsky - 8, in Kharkov - 4. Of this amount, 75 KV-1 and 9 KV-2 were in operation. From 1 to 21, another 41 KV tank was sent to the troops from the factory in June.

Crew training for new heavy tanks was often carried out (if at all) on all types of tanks. For example, 3 December 1940 was ordered by the directive of the Chief of the General Staff of the Red Army No. 5 / 4 / 370 "to train personnel and save the material part of combat vehicles to be released, exclusively as training, to each battalion of heavy tanks X-NUMX T-10 tank tanks." It remains a mystery how T-27 could learn to drive and maintain the KV-27 or KV-1. As a result, by June 2, the number of trained crews for these machines did not exceed 1941.

In the first days of the Great Patriotic War, both the obvious merits and shortcomings of the new heavy tanks, as well as all the shortcomings in the combat training and organizational structure of the Red Army tank forces, were fully manifested. For example, in the report on the military actions of the 8 th mechanized corps from 22 to 26 in June 1941 (by the beginning of the war, the corps had 71 KB, 49 T-35, 100 BT, 34 T-277, T-344, 26 BT, 17 T-27, 34 T-3) reported the following: “The drivers of the KB and T-5 combat vehicles mostly had practical driving experience from XNUMX to XNUMX hours. For the entire period of the corps' existence, the combat materiel and personnel completely did not withdraw to tactical exercises and were not practically tested both on the issues of the march training and on the actions in the main types of combat. Tactical knockoffs were carried out no higher than the scale of a company, a battalion and partly a regiment. "

From the report of the commander of the 41 Tank Division of the 22 of the 25 Mechanized Corps of July 1941 of the division’s combat operations (by the beginning of the war there were 312 T-26 and 31 KV-2 tanks) that to 152-mm KV-X guns 2 did not have a single projectile.



According to the memoirs of D. Osadchiy, commander of the company of tanks KV-1 during the 2-th tank division, “23-24 of June, before entering the battle, many KB tanks, especially KV-2, failed during the marches. Very big problems were with the gearbox and air filters. June was hot, there was a huge amount of dust on the roads of the Baltic States and the filters had to be changed after an hour and a half of engine operation. Before entering the battle, the tanks of my company managed to replace them, but in the neighboring ones they did not. As a result, by the middle of the day most of the cars in these companies broke down. ”

Well trained crews worked wonders on the KV tanks. 18 August 1941, the five tanks KV-1 company of Lieutenant Z. G. Kolobanov took up defense on the outskirts of the city Krasnogvardeysk (Gatchina). By evening, the tanks were covered by towers in caponier. For his KV Kolobanov chose a position in the most threatened area - the northern outskirts of Krasnogvardeisk. The units of the 1 German Tank Division that were attacking here could hit the rear of the Soviet troops who were defending the borders of the Krasnogvardeisky fortified area, and then, coming along the old Gatchina parks to the Kiev highway, it was almost unhindered to advance towards Leningrad.

In the morning of August 19, on the left flank, one of the company’s tanks engaged the enemy. In the second hour of the day, German tanks appeared in front of Kolobanov’s position. 22 enemy vehicles were walking along the road in a column at reduced distances, substituting their left sides almost strictly at right angles to the HF gun. The hatches were open, many Germans sat on their armor. Our tank crews even distinguished their faces, since the distance to the enemy column was small - only about 150 m. When the reference point No. 1 (two birch trees at the crossroads), scheduled by tankers the day before, was several meters away, Kolobanov ordered the gun commander to senior sergeant Usov to open the fire. With a few shots, Usov set fire to two enemy tanks and two end tanks. The column was in the bag. The maneuver for the Germans was limited to swampy terrain on both sides of the road. The enemy did not immediately determine where the fire was coming from, but then brought down a shower of shells on Kolobanov’s position. Tankers were suffocating from the powder gases, from the strikes of enemy shells on the armor of the tank were all contused. Usov, without looking up from the sight, continued to shoot tank after tank. Finally, the last 22 tank was destroyed. During the battle, which lasted more than an hour, Usov fired 98 shells at the enemy. For this battle, Lieutenant Kolobanov was awarded the Order of the Red Banner, and Senior Sergeant Usov was awarded the Order of Lenin.



In the same battle, other KV crews from the Kolobanov company also distinguished themselves. In a battle on the Luga road, the crew of Lieutenant Sergeyev knocked out 8 of German tanks, the crews of Lieutenant Lastochkin and Junior Lieutenant Degtyar - according to 4, and the crew of Junior Lieutenant Evdokimenko - 5. At the same time, Evdokimenko died in battle, three members of his crew were wounded, and the fifth tank, Sidikov, a mechanic-driver, destroyed with a ram attack. Total for 19 August 1941, the company Kolobanova disabled 43 German tank.

As for the rams, often described in various publications, in the summer of 1941, they were indeed a frequent occurrence, but sometimes not from a good life. Here is what was reported in the report of the commander of the 43 Tank Division of the 19 th mechanized corps about the battles from June 22 to 10 August 1941: “Pursuing the enemy’s infantry, our tanks were met by fire from the ambush of the enemy tanks, but (ambush) was attacked KB and T-34 tanks, which were pulled out ahead, and T-26 tanks after them ... The KB and T-34 tanks, not having enough armor-piercing shells, fired with fragmentation shells and with their mass crushed and destroyed the enemy’s tanks and anti-tank tanks guns moving from one turn to another y. "

However, despite the powerful armor, strong armament and heroism of individual crews, KB tanks did not play any significant role in the summer battles of 1941. The main part of these machines failed due to technical reasons, due to illiterate operation, lack of spare parts, means of evacuation and repair. In addition, the Germans, finding out that it was impossible to fight KB with conventional anti-tank weapons, successfully used against them 88-mm anti-aircraft guns Flak 36 and 105-mm (according to the German notation - 10-cm) corps field guns K18.

Nevertheless, in the documents of the autumn of 1941, there are reports of quite successful use of KV tanks. True, mainly in defense. For example, on November 8, the 1941 crew of the KV tank of Lieutenant A. Martynov from the 16 tank tank brigade of the Volkhov front in a battle near the village of Zhupkino (Leningrad region) repulsed an 14 attack of German tanks from the ambush, destroying five German cars. Soon, these tanks were repaired and already fought as part of the 16-th tank brigade. During this battle, Lieutenant Martynov was presented to the title of Hero of the Soviet Union. 5 December 1941, the crew of the KV-1 tank, Lieutenant Pavel Gudz of the 89-th separate tank battalion, fought 18 with German tanks, knocked out 10 of them, as well as four anti-tank guns. For this fight, Gutz was awarded the Order of Lenin. I must say that this tanker was familiar with the KV tank very well, since it began to fight there from the first days of the Great Patriotic War. His further combat fate is also associated with combat vehicles of this type.



In July, 1942, Pavel Gudz, already in the rank of captain, was appointed commander of the 574 tank battalion of the 212 tank tank brigade, which was part of the Don Front. In November of the same year, Captain Hudzu was promoted to the rank of major and appointed deputy commander of the 8-th separate guards tank regiment of the breakthrough. However, he was unable to serve for a long time in this position, since he was injured as early as next month.

In one of the battles, his tank caught fire. In addition, the caterpillar flew off and the combat vehicle froze in place. And on the armor was already buzzing flames from the flared diesel fuel, threatening to get inside the car, filled with ammunition. The tank crew arrived in time and rescued the crew, and their commander with six penetrating wounds was immediately sent to the hospital. After such wounds in a combat system do not return. But the major wrote the report personally to the Supreme Commander and got his way - he was sent to the front.

The new service post of Major Gudz was the 5-th separate Guards Tank Regiment of the breakthrough, which was part of the troops of the South-Western (later 3-th Ukrainian) front, in which he accepted the position of deputy commander in May 1943. When approaching Zaporozhye, in order to ensure forcing the infantry units the crossing of the Dnieper, it was necessary to seize the hydroelectric dam. For two days there was a fierce battle. When our tanks reached the target, the Tiger suddenly jumped out of the ambush. A gun duel ensued. Suddenly, the tank in which Hudz was located shook the blow of tremendous force. Charger and gunner were killed. Gudzia had her left clavicle damaged and her left hand fractured: she was dangling on one vein. The pain clouded consciousness, and in the field of view of the sight "Tigers" blurred like rainbow spots of diesel fuel on the water. Overcoming pain, Lieutenant Colonel Gutz cut his tendon with his knife. The brush slipped out of the jumpsuit. Now all the attention "Tigers". Here is one framed board. Obediently, the descent pedal worked. From a shot, the tank started, and the enemy vehicle, engulfed in flames, froze on a sandbar. The second "Tiger" still managed to deploy its gun, and Hutz saw a black circle of its trunk. "Tiger" and KB shot at each other almost simultaneously ...


Exploded KV-2 with MT-1. In the background is another HF-2

When I woke up, I realized that it was already evening and the battle was going on in the distance, and he was lying near the tank, in a fresh crater from the aerial bomb. Squatting was a driver. Noticing that the commander had come to his senses, he happily reported: "And you, too, of the second ..."

The reader will probably immediately have a question: were there any “Tigers”? After all, after the Battle of Kursk, the attribution of almost any German tank to the “tiger” class became a mass phenomenon in the Red Army. Well, we can say firmly - there were “Tigers”! It was at this time and precisely in this place, in the area of ​​the Dnieper Dam, that the 506 th German heavy tank battalion fought. Of course, KV, frankly, did not "pull" against the "Tiger" in a tank duel, but since the described battle was fought at a short distance, the chances were leveled. Well, such an experienced tanker, like Pavel Gudz, cost nothing to hit the Tiger from the first shot. So we can say with confidence that in this fight he really hit two “Tigers”, moreover, from a broken tank and with a torn left hand! The fact that we most likely will not find any confirmation of this in the combat magazine of the 506 of the German heavy tank battalion means that the Germans took into account only their irretrievable losses, and the tanks they killed did not appear at all in their reports.

It should be emphasized that the tank KB itself is a rather controversial vehicle. Paradoxically, but in 1941, this tank was not needed - it simply did not have a worthy opponent. But he had no clear combat advantages over the average T-34, with the exception of thicker armor. Armament was the same, and maneuverability worse than thirty-four. Tankers didn’t really like this car: KB could smash any road (wheeled vehicles could no longer follow him), almost no bridge could withstand it, with the exception of capital stone. But the main drawback is the extremely unreliable transmission, the failure of which was a mass phenomenon.

Part of the transmission deficiencies was eliminated in the KV-1942с modification that appeared in 1 (“c” - high-speed). However, in this modification, in the pursuit of maneuverability, the thickness of armor was reduced, and in terms of its combat properties, heavy KB was even closer to medium tanks.

Thus, the only justification for the release of a KB in 1941-1942 in parallel with the T-34 could be only a more powerful gun, for example 85-mm. But this was not done for the reason that at that time the 76 caliber mm gun did quite well with all of the enemy’s armored targets.


Captured by the Germans KV 2. German mechanized division on the march

A tank of a similar class KB - "Tiger" appeared among the Germans only at the end of 1942 year. And then fate played a second cruel joke with KB - it was instantly outdated. Our tank was simply powerless against the "Tiger" with its "long arm" - 88-mm cannon with a barrel length 56 caliber. "Tiger" could hit KB at distances beyond the limits of the latter. This did not slow down in combat. Thus, for example, on February 12 of 1943, during the blockade of Leningrad, three “Tigers” of the 1 of the 502 heavy tank battalion destroyed the 10 KV. In this case, the Germans had no losses.

The appearance of the KV-85 tank made it possible to smooth the situation somewhat. But these machines were mastered late, they were released a little and make a significant contribution to the fight against the German heavy tanks, they could not. A more serious opponent for the "Tigers" could become the KV-122 - the serial KV-85, armed in the experimental order with the 122-mm cannon D-25T. But at this time, the ChKZ guilds began to leave the first tanks of the IS series. The latter, which at first glance continued the KB line, were already completely new machines.


KV-85 - Soviet heavy tank during World War II. The abbreviation KV means "Klim Voroshilov" - the official name of the serial Soviet heavy tanks 1940 — 1943. 85 index means the caliber of the main armament of the machine.

From 1940 to 1943 year, 4775 KB tanks of all modifications were released. They fought on all fronts of the Great Patriotic War, first in the composition of tank brigades of mixed composition, then in the composition of individual guards tank regiments of the breakthrough. Until 1945, quite a few KBs were used, used as battle tanks. Basically, after dismantling the tower, they served as evacuation towers.


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  1. +5
    16 February 2013 10: 03
    Even more controversial at first machine than its "colleague" T-34. Some kind of a set of contradictions - having hatches in the roof for the shooter and the mechanic drive, it is impossible to straighten the VLD, leaving the slots and the machine gun already in the sloped armor. Possessing, unlike 34, the same fifth crew member - a separate gunner (gun commander) - you can't really realize this advantage with a poor view of the commander and leave ONE HATCH for all three in the turret !!! Having before your eyes an example of a more compact version of the MTO layout, apply such a bulky one, lengthening (and making heavier) the already overall body.
    As a result, alas - with all due respect to the tankers who fought on it, even at the beginning of the war it did not become an analogue of the "Tiger", it lacked either mobility or firepower, and the Wehrmacht had enough heavy and effective means of struggle. The famous raseinja battle is an exception to the general rule.
    On the whole, it was a sure minus to the Leningrad school of tank building and the Kirov factory, they knew about the machine’s drawbacks in terms of reliability and didn’t really worry about correcting them, unlike their Kharkov colleagues. And only a serious shout from Moscow already in the evacuation caused the arrogant comrades to scratch themselves, as a result of which they gave birth to a compromise KV-1s
    1. Avenger711
      +1
      16 February 2013 16: 18
      Shashmurin, as someone who worked there, in general, spoke rather negatively about KV and all other projects that now delight donators and not only in WoT, but did not contribute a single gram to the defense of the country. When a normal chassis was made for the KV, some clever men began to remove the "extra" armor, giving rise to the KV-1S. The fun continued after the War with all these IS-4, IS-6, which "burned down after driving 50 meters through the factory yard," IS-7. Apparently, the troops did not stop admiring how the same KT slips in the mud and if it breaks down, or if it is knocked out, you will pull out the horseradish ... Before the war, the T-35 should have been admired. As a result, the design bureau was nevertheless taken by the balls and the IS-8 was already designed, as expected, with the use of working components and was just as normally modernized as the new equipment was ready. As a result, it served for a long time, its last modification T-10M with the M62-T2 cannon, by the way, can be seen in the movie "Battalions are asking for fire" in '84.
      1. major1976
        +5
        16 February 2013 21: 21
        In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with the fact that after the war the IS-4-6-7 tank line was tested, and the deep modernization of the IS-8-T-10 and T-10M were adopted, no! There are only pluses! T- 10M is deservedly recognized as the best heavy tank in the whole world! Between the release of single pieces, their study, break-in before commissioning and the start of production in batches sometimes take years! The designer understands the mistakes made, corrects them or completely abandons the idea of ​​the need to create this model! with heavy tanks, they were no longer destined due to a change in the views of the military and the merging of the concepts of a medium and heavy tank into a single-main battle tank! If there weren’t the IS4-6-7, they wouldn’t understand that they weren’t needed - not care about protecting the fatherland! Yes, and I hope that far from ignoramuses are sitting in the field of BT!
  2. avt
    +4
    16 February 2013 10: 17
    Quote: Mikhado
    Even more controversial at first machine than its "colleague" T-34. Some kind of a set of contradictions - having hatches in the roof for the shooter and the mechanic drive, it is impossible to straighten the VLD, leaving the slots and the machine gun already in the sloped armor. Possessing, unlike 34, the same fifth crew member - a separate gunner (gun commander) - you can't really realize this advantage with a poor view of the commander and leave ONE HATCH for all three in the turret !!! Having before your eyes an example of a more compact version of the MTO layout, apply such a bulky one, lengthening (and making heavier) the already overall body.
    As a result, alas - with all due respect to the tankers who fought on it, even at the beginning of the war it did not become an analogue of the "Tiger", it lacked either mobility or firepower, and the Wehrmacht had enough heavy and effective means of struggle.

    I do not agree and that's why. The car is outstanding! BUT, its creation and release should be linked to the time of creation. It went into series almost from the worksheet, it was just that the flaws were eliminated during production and not according to the results of normal tests at the training ground, but for military operations. The gun is rather weak for a heavy tank, but 107mm tried other options, but war ....... Further evacuation and deployment in the Urals and an acute shortage of tanks at the front. Believe me, it was physically impossible to demand more! Well, when it became easier - the continuation of IP went. And the Germans also began to build their Tiger in the drawings before the war. And when did it get out in the metal? Well, according to the conditions of production, in comparison with us, they generally had a labor dispensary in the beginning.
  3. 755962
    +27
    16 February 2013 11: 27

    The 6th Wehrmacht Panzer Division fought 48 hours with the only Soviet KV-1 tank (Klim Voroshilov).

    This episode is described in detail in the memoirs of Colonel Erhard Routh, whose group tried to destroy the Soviet tank. The fifty-ton KV-1 shot and crushed with its caterpillars a convoy of 12 supply trucks that went to the Germans from the captured city of Raiseniai. Then with targeted shots he destroyed the artillery battery. The Germans, of course, returned fire, but to no avail. The shells of the anti-tank guns did not leave a dent on his armor - the Germans who were struck by this later gave the KV-1 tanks the nickname "Phantom". But what about the cannons - even the 1-mm howitzers could not penetrate the KV-150 armor. True, the soldiers of Routh managed to immobilize the tank by detonating a shell under his caterpillar.

    But Klim Voroshilov was not going to leave anywhere. He took a strategic position on the only road leading to Raiseniai, and for two days delayed the advancement of the division (the Germans could not get around it, because the road passed through the swamps, where army trucks and light tanks were stuck).

    Finally, by the end of the second day of the battle, Routh managed to shoot the tank from anti-aircraft guns. But, when his soldiers cautiously approached the steel monster, the tank tower suddenly turned in their direction - apparently, the crew was still alive. Only a grenade thrown into the hatch of the tank put an end to this incredible battle.
    1. +8
      16 February 2013 12: 11
      Eternal memory to the heroes.
      1. 0
        16 February 2013 19: 35
        But do we know who in this tank fought and died? Oh yeah! We don’t know ... These are the things ...
        1. valiant
          +5
          17 February 2013 12: 02
          names of heroes are known
    2. +1
      17 February 2013 17: 22
      I watched the film White Tiger, by chance did our directors (pseudo-patriots) turn everything upside down? Well, everything is very similar, only there is a "hero" German tank and tankers /
      1. +4
        18 February 2013 10: 45
        The same Russian patriots took off "White Tiger" for me. "KV-ghost" is what a movie you need !!!
      2. Cat
        +1
        21 February 2013 22: 50
        Dear Sirocco, do not watch bad films (and do not read newspapers). The meaning of the film is in completely idiotic mysticism (well, judging by the book, by which the film was actually shot). You can watch TV shows with the same success. Bullshit.
        1. 0
          April 21 2017 18: 52
          Quote: Gato
          Dear Sirocco, do not watch bad films (and do not read newspapers). The meaning of the film is in completely idiotic mysticism (well, judging by the book, by which the film was actually shot). You can watch TV shows with the same success. Bullshit.

          And they don’t take others off, so the children look. Either "Rage" or "B. Tiger." I read the annotation for this crap ...
  4. Lucky
    +1
    16 February 2013 11: 45
    Strong in it is unbelievable felt !!!
    1. 755962
      +13
      16 February 2013 11: 57
      Quote: Lucky
      Strong in it is unbelievable felt !!!

  5. +4
    16 February 2013 16: 15
    The car was raw, a bunch of childhood illnesses. Most importantly, the weapon is the same as a medium tank. If initially there was a more powerful gun on the KV-1, then the work of this tank on the fronts of the Second World War would be longer.
    1. kin
      +2
      16 February 2013 19: 05
      I am not a great specialist in these issues. But I have a question: why did the breakthrough tank, the infantry support tank, have a more powerful gun. Especially for 1941?
      1. +1
        16 February 2013 20: 39
        Quote: kin
        But I have a question: why did the breakthrough tank, the infantry support tank, have a more powerful gun

        Well, for example, to deal with enemy tanks.
        1. +1
          17 February 2013 11: 08
          The 76-mm L-11 gun at the beginning of the war penetrated the armor of all German tanks without any problems. When armor was increased on PzIII and PzIV, then a more powerful F-34 was put on HF.
      2. Cat
        0
        21 February 2013 23: 04
        A breakthrough tank, and even more so infantry support, is in principle not intended to fight enemy tanks. His task is to hit the enemy with direct fire at machine-gun points and bunkers (or bunkers) of the enemy. For this, a large-caliber gun and powerful high-explosive shells are better. Actually, the KV-2 with 152 mm was created for this. Then such a theory was, the war, of course, made adjustments.
        In the Wehrmacht, too, something similar was (no need to neigh) = Pz.IV with a 76-mm cigarette butt. Then they became smarter - they began to make assault self-propelled guns.
  6. Vanek
    +7
    16 February 2013 18: 38
    As you already guessed - unfinished.
  7. Alf
    +7
    16 February 2013 20: 08
    Quote: kin
    I am not a great specialist in these issues. But I have a question: why did the breakthrough tank, the infantry support tank, have a more powerful gun

    For a breakthrough tank, a more powerful weapon MUST! The breakthrough tank is fighting, mainly with the so-called. "infantry" targets, i.e. Pillboxes, bunkers and field fortifications. Where exactly the FUGAS projectile is more important and necessary. An example is the IS-2 BK -28 rounds, of which 20 are high-explosive fragmentation. The fact is that with an increase in caliber, the power of a high-explosive charge increases sharply. Heavy self-propelled guns ISU-122-152 proved to be excellent precisely during the assault on German cities and fortified areas, which, in principle, is the same. It is not for nothing that ISs and ISUs were part of the assault groups, but not the SU-85 or T-34-85. In addition, the side effect of the increased caliber is also an increase in the power of the armor-piercing projectile. ISs proved to be excellent, firing at PF tanks with shells and ISs did not require a sub-caliber projectile, which is a saving of tungsten, not the most numerous material.
  8. major1976
    +2
    16 February 2013 20: 20
    I agree that the car is just "raw", not technically worked out! Problems with the engine, transmission, chassis, observation devices, communications and weapons! But at that time not a single army of the world had any analogues! The Yankees studied the KV with our permission and made conclusions for themselves for what tanks are the future and whose tanks will be the first to enter Berlin, and if necessary, they will go further! At the beginning of the war, there was nothing except for "sludge"! The KV was excessively strong (the KV had no worthy opponents even with all its shortcomings) at the time the beginning of the war, but with a trained crew practically invulnerable (it's not the case for a single tank to use aviation and heavy artillery, the tasks are not the same)! Here the Germans with their 37mm "door knockers" and proved to the whole world and to themselves that in vain they climbed east and woke Russian bear "on KV! And all these German" wunderwales "Tigers, Panthers, Elephants, etc. (not only tanks, all weapons, equipment and ammunition of the Wehrmacht), although they were often good or sometimes excellent examples, but remained in historyas the defeated, and remembered only because they fought against Soviet technology!
  9. +7
    16 February 2013 20: 37
    Thanks to the author for the article. Actually, I didn’t learn anything new, but it’s still good to once again recall this legendary tank of ours and the exploits of tankers on it. I liked the photos. Many had never seen before. And the pictures where KV get from the Neva immediately reminded a good song. I found it and post it here.
  10. malkor
    0
    16 February 2013 22: 56
    sq the strongest tank of the beginning of the 2nd world
    kv - this is a huge experience in building heavy tanks, so its successor was largely successful
  11. valiant
    +2
    16 February 2013 23: 20
    1. The first prototype of the KV tank (U-0 machine), September 1939

    2. German trophy KV-1

    3. Tank KV-1K with KARST-1

    4. Trophy KV-2
  12. bubble82009
    +1
    17 February 2013 01: 01
    we all appreciate from the experience of years gone by. HF was a spike of contradictions. he was made as a tank breakthrough lines such as Monerheim. but how the tank of defense or the fight against tanks was not intended.
    individual cases of victories of the crews of these tanks did not radically change the entire course of the war. a tank is a complex. it is not only his crew, but also mechanics, supplies, rear. any tank is useless without fuel and ammunition and maintenance.
    a gun of 76 mm for 1941 was sufficient. 152 mm howitzer redundant.
    1. 0
      17 February 2013 11: 09
      Quote: bublic82009
      152 mm howitzer redundant.

      Howitzer M-10T was intended only and only for the destruction of fortifications.
      1. +2
        17 February 2013 12: 54
        Fortifications, non-reinforcements, but the 152mm disc even on the Tiger slapped weakly ... such a fofan was kept by every tower.
        1. Cat
          0
          22 February 2013 02: 24
          This is if you get a great luck. The tiger has a Zeiss sight, and the "akht-akht" is also not a gift if it arrives
  13. +2
    17 February 2013 11: 06
    An interesting article, although they already wrote about the KV, but the photos in the posts are especially interesting. And here's the thought that came up after reading, based on the article, the main effective use of KV tanks was on the Leningrad front, although there were fewer quantitatively at the start of the war than in Western district. And from this a simple conclusion follows who and how prepared for the war. So, it was not for nothing that Pavlov was shot.
  14. sdf23wesdgg
    0
    17 February 2013 19: 28
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    my correspondence, addresses, phone numbers, even found my nude photo, I can’t even imagine from where. The good news is that the data can be deleted from the site, of course, I used it and I advise everyone not to hesitate
  15. +2
    17 February 2013 21: 30
    Unfortunately, no one in our country has ever really paid attention to training personnel and improving the tactics of using military equipment and weapons. Honor and glory to the heroes who even defeated the enemy with unfinished equipment !!!!
    1. bask
      0
      18 February 2013 07: 45
      Quote: sso-250659
      tactics of using military equipment and weapons. Honor and glory to the heroes who even defeated the enemy with unfinished technology

  16. +3
    17 February 2013 22: 17
    The article put a plus.
    Mikhail BARYATINSKY is an interesting author, I read his books, very reasoned, without tediousness. KV fulfilled its historical mission, became the "father" of ISs.
    1. bask
      0
      18 February 2013 07: 44
      Quote: GOLUBENKO
      Mikhail BARYATINSKY is an interesting author, I read his books, very reasoned, without tediousness. KV fulfilled its historical mission, became the "father" of ISs.

      Breakthrough project in the USSR.
  17. +1
    18 February 2013 12: 29
    "Serial production of KV tanks with 76-mm cannons (" tanks with a small turret ") and hastily developed from the experience of battles on the Mannerheim line of KV tanks with 152-mm howitzers (" tanks with a large turret ") began in February 1940 at the Leningrad Kirovsky plant (LKZ). By the end of the year, the Kirov plant managed to produce 243 tanks (139 KV-1 and 104 KV-2), fully fulfilling the plan lowered from above. " But the author forgot to point out that this success was associated not only with the discontinuation of production of the T-28, but also with the "punched out" in May 1940 by Zaltsman by an order from the People's Commissariat to completely stop the production of components for the T-28. As a result, in the summer of 1941, there were no combat-ready units on the KV and the units on the T-28 lost their combat readiness.
  18. volga248
    0
    19 February 2013 11: 49
    An article by Yu. Shatrakov titled "Fight to the death, but survive" was published in the Military Review. I advise you to read it. The article received a wide response from the public. It was reprinted by a number of media outlets for the acquaintance of readers.
  19. Cat
    0
    21 February 2013 23: 45
    The article is a definite plus, although there is more serious research.

    Speaking of tanks: it remains a mystery to me - where did the fashion come to call them by the names of military (political) uh ... figures? HF, IS, Churchill, Sherman, Lee - those who wish can continue smile

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