Unknown persons derailed a train with 155 mm shells and missiles for the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Vinnytsia region

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Unknown persons derailed a train with 155 mm shells and missiles for the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Vinnytsia region

Not far from the village of Serebria, Vinnytsia region, a train with 155 mm shells and missiles, which were supposed to be delivered to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, was derailed.

The authors of the telegram channel “Welders” report in particular that



the train was derailed by Ukrainian partisans

According to our data, the train with ammunition actually went off the rails. He came from the direction of Romania. As for the “Ukrainian partisans,” this fact has not yet been confirmed. True, the Ukrainian side does not refute it.

Whether the Ukrainian partisans, or someone else, helped the Ukrainian Armed Forces get rid of such a significant amount of ammunition and weapons is still an open question. However, it is almost unmistakable to assume the following: if these Ukrainian partisans committed one such successful sabotage against Bandera’s army, then, most likely, it will be followed by other sabotage actions, no less significant.

Let us recall that the Ukrainian side constantly talks about the lack of ammunition for combat operations against Russia. Accordingly, the destruction of any batch of artillery shells and missiles is of significant importance. This means that this batch of ammunition will definitely not reach the warehouses and the front line and will not be used against Russian military personnel or civilians.
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  1. +10
    17 February 2024 15: 16
    Whether the Ukrainian partisans, or someone else, helped the Ukrainian Armed Forces get rid of such a significant amount of ammunition and weapons is still an open question.
    . Exactly, the question is open...
    1. +17
      17 February 2024 15: 43
      Quote: rocket757
      Whether the Ukrainian partisans, or someone else, helped the Ukrainian Armed Forces get rid of such a significant amount of ammunition and weapons is still an open question.
      . Exactly, the question is open...

      Who wouldn't "help". Regardless of their own carelessness, or even the partisans, the “Russian DRG” will still be to blame. Inciting spy mania is also a plus for Ukraine. The external enemy has been concocted, now the internal enemy must be created to be no less terrible.

      America did not spare several thousand people on September 21 for the sake of foreign policy goals. I will not list all the self-inflicted provocations of the owners of Ukraine. I’ll just say that, knowing their indiscriminateness in means and the Ukrainian indiscriminateness in goals, I don’t even rule out a crossbow - why not derail the ammunition? We will then reload the shells, and the fact of “Russian sabotage” is here. Is Ukraine alone a terrorist country?
      I apologize in advance for the second part of the comment. Like an old conspiracy theorist, he couldn’t resist poking at the obvious with his finger, trying to discover the incredible underneath...
      1. +1
        17 February 2024 16: 11
        As a conspiracy theorist to a conspiracy theorist. "Conspiracy theories" have become PRACTICE everywhere. And we continue to discuss “theories”.

        The authorities of ALL countries destroy peoples. This is the 3rd civil world war: the war of the upper classes of Rulers, Businessmen and Servants against their own lower classes and other classes.
        1. 0
          17 February 2024 17: 03
          Do you have anything to offer?
          Anarchy is the mother of order or something else?
          1. +1
            17 February 2024 19: 30
            It’s not his business to propose, it’s his business to blow into a puddle in one place.
            1. +3
              18 February 2024 09: 29
              Quote: Bayun
              The authorities of ALL countries destroy peoples

              Russia does not yet have problems with overpopulation.
              So we don’t need state support for same-sex marriage or blocking the production of cheap drugs, everything is fine with us.
              But in general, yes, the world is very overpopulated. And they are fighting this as best they can.
              But man is part of nature. And nature has mechanisms to combat overpopulation.
              Even if the Americans do not create another, more deadly, “coronavirus”, some kind of “ebola” will appear. With such a huge number of people it is inevitable.
              Although, most likely, the virus will be artificially created. So that the “diamond hundred million” can create a medicine in advance, before the pandemic.
        2. -3
          17 February 2024 17: 16
          Quote: Bayun
          The authorities of ALL countries destroy peoples.

          Yeah. The authorities of all countries destroy those who pay them money. Understood.
          1. +7
            18 February 2024 09: 11
            They make money from the brutal exploitation of these very lower classes, and they pay these lower classes, it is they, and not vice versa, and the lower classes then return them. But with the development of scientific and technological progress, fewer and fewer living workers are needed. What do immoral hucksters do with extra mouths at all times and everywhere? Over there in the geyrop there are tractor trips from that same “opera”. Globalism does not take into account the interests of the aborigines. Go broke and die.
      2. +4
        17 February 2024 16: 14
        Probably meant 11?
        1. 0
          17 February 2024 16: 24
          Quote: Evil_critic
          Probably meant 11?

          Pardonema, ochepatka... feel
          1. +3
            17 February 2024 23: 21
            Yes, everything is fine, it happens, and we’re not in the exam) I just thought maybe I missed it.
      3. +4
        17 February 2024 17: 01
        Guess, don’t guess... let it suit us on its own!
        1. +4
          17 February 2024 17: 12
          Quote: rocket757
          Guess, don’t guess... let it suit us on its own!

          Let it be... But still, deep down, I would like “Samo” to be noted in the closed award list. lol
          1. +1
            17 February 2024 17: 20
            Well, yes, an old Soviet joke about two crocodiles!
            Although, now there are plenty of new ones.
          2. +1
            17 February 2024 22: 37
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Let it just...

            I have seen freight trains derailed. In both cases, only 2 cars came off. There were no capsizes.
            So, the news is so-so. If the partisans had tried, they probably would have taken a photo and posted it online. And so... all that remains is to guess on the tea leaves. Most likely a duck.
            1. 0
              20 February 2024 04: 02
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              Let it just...

              I have seen freight trains derailed. In both cases, only 2 cars came off. There were no capsizes.
              So, the news is so-so. If the partisans had tried, they probably would have taken a photo and posted it online. And so... all that remains is to guess on the tea leaves. Most likely a duck.

              Destruction of ammunition is their detonation. Everyone would have heard the explosion. And the shells don’t detonate; aren’t they transported with fuses screwed in?
      4. +2
        18 February 2024 03: 24
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        We will then reload the shells, and the fact of “Russian sabotage” is here. Is Ukraine alone a terrorist country?

        Is the destruction of enemy ammunition during war considered terror?
        In my opinion, this shouldn't be the case... winked
        Well, maybe I don’t understand something... in “international” law...
        1. +4
          18 February 2024 04: 39
          Quote: Zamira
          Is the destruction of enemy ammunition during war considered terror?
          In my opinion, this shouldn't be the case...
          Well, maybe I don’t understand something... in “international” law...
          You are absolutely right, but it seems to Ukrainians that they understand “international” law not only better than you, but also better than anyone in the world.
          Firstly, the cargo is military, but the rails are peaceful. lol
          Secondly - “What do we care about?..”
          It's not so simple ... lol
    2. +4
      17 February 2024 17: 04
      the train was derailed by Ukrainian partisans

      It would be nice to add a strike from the sky on the train and make a fireworks display using detonated ammunition.
      1. +2
        17 February 2024 19: 31
        Well, otherwise the farmers will gather them up and take them away.
      2. +1
        19 February 2024 07: 39
        It’s strange and annoying that we know about these trains with ammunition, but for some reason we don’t destroy them, but rely on some mythical Ukrainian partisans, as they say, hope but don’t make a mistake yourself.
    3. +2
      17 February 2024 17: 10
      Quote: rocket757
      Whether the Ukrainian partisans, or someone else, helped the Ukrainian Armed Forces get rid of such a significant amount of ammunition and weapons is still an open question.
      . Exactly, the question is open...

      Was there a train? Or is a couple of carriages already a train?
      ps. I don’t know how many carriages there were, but I know how our journalists make mountains out of molehills!
      1. +5
        17 February 2024 17: 21
        And this can happen... alas, alas, one can only regret the quality of journalism.
    4. +4
      17 February 2024 17: 11
      Quote: rocket757
      . Exactly, the question is open...

      An anecdote from the times of the USSR: A man comes out of the forest and asks the grandmother from the last hut - Granny! Are there any Germans in the village? Yes, what a dear you are! The war ended 40 years ago! Oh grandma! And we are still derailing echelons! hi
      1. +3
        17 February 2024 17: 22
        And this only confirms that folk art is the most... eternal. Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
  2. +7
    17 February 2024 15: 16
    Very good. Great! XXXLs recruit our “sympathizers” through the Internet to commit sabotage. I hope ours are also working in this direction. Why not. I think there will be people in Ukraine who, for a good reward, will be able to derail a train.
    1. +16
      17 February 2024 15: 24
      And what’s great. The shells are not destroyed. They can be collected and taken to the front, but if we finally had analogues of the Harop UAV (ala Lancets, only with a larger warhead and a destruction radius of about 1000 km), then they could would work on the composition with ammunition and the ammunition would detonate, and not just go downhill along with the train. Orion, after all, has control via a broadband channel. So what’s the problem? Is it expensive? Or is there no desire?
      1. +1
        17 February 2024 15: 28
        Well, at least that's good. Anything is better than the unhindered supply of all these weapons to the frontier.
      2. +2
        17 February 2024 15: 32
        Well, if there had been a detonation in one carriage, the rest of the shells would have just as easily scattered. Remember the fires in warehouses. They burn for days, and explosions are only caused by heating.
      3. +3
        17 February 2024 15: 32
        That's what I thought too. It was necessary to at least jump away from the grenade launcher. I understand that this, of course, is much riskier, and yet more effective. Well, at least this way. Maybe at least the missiles received damage that is incompatible with use.
        1. 0
          17 February 2024 15: 38
          Quote: Poplar
          That's what I thought too. It was necessary to at least jump away from the grenade launcher. I understand that this, of course, is much riskier, and yet more effective. Well, at least this way. Maybe at least the missiles received damage that is incompatible with use.


          If there were enough Orions, they could work out ASP on train cars with ammunition.
        2. 0
          17 February 2024 16: 28
          Quote: Poplar
          It was necessary to at least jump away from the grenade launcher.


          Where to go?
        3. 0
          17 February 2024 16: 59
          Quote: Poplar
          It was necessary to at least jump away from the grenade launcher.

          Maybe they were waiting for Macaroni there? wassat
      4. -3
        17 February 2024 15: 42
        Most likely it’s a matter of intelligence. You can also kill it with the Iskander.
        1. 0
          17 February 2024 15: 48
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          Most likely it’s a matter of intelligence. You can also kill it with the Iskander.


          Yeah, from Iskander. Maybe it’s better to go straight from Sarmat? There won’t be enough Iskanders for each car with a BC, and it will be unreasonably expensive. It’s not yet known whether an Iskander or a car with a BC costs more. We need stealth UAVs with a flight radius of 1000-1500 km with the ability to use ASP or, at worst, carry out drops like the same Baba Yaga, made by converting an agricultural drone. You need a relatively inexpensive, mass-produced UAV, but with a large flight radius, the ability to use ASP. Something like Geraniums at a price, but reusable Maybe the Iranians have something similar?
          1. +2
            17 February 2024 15: 58
            You don’t have to do anything at all. Because what you are talking about is simply not available or tested in combat conditions. And yes, comparing the cost of the car and the troubles that it can cause from the car is at least incorrect
            1. 0
              17 February 2024 16: 00
              Well, what about Orion-RU with ASP? It has been used since 2022. And the price of its ASP is not so high and using them on the same cars with BC is quite economically justified. But for this it is necessary to launch mass production of Orion-RU in order to reduce the production price and have them available in the required quantity. It is also possible to create an economy version of Orion, just to maintain a large flight radius, control via a broadband channel and the ability to use relatively inexpensive, but powerful ASP.
            2. +1
              17 February 2024 16: 35
              Quote from: dmi.pris1
              You don’t have to do anything at all. Because what you are talking about is simply not available or tested in combat conditions. And yes, comparing the cost of the car and the troubles that it can cause from the car is at least incorrect

              I support. I think that our DRG worked.
              Unexpectedly deep, but my friends went to
              404 raids up to 2 weeks. hi
              1. 0
                17 February 2024 17: 02
                Quote: Alex777
                Unexpectedly deep, but my friends went to
                404 raids up to 2 weeks.

                Russians have long arms, let those who like to travel to Kyiv by train know this. am
      5. 0
        17 February 2024 16: 06
        neworange88, Where and how long will Orion fly from, if we are talking about st. Silver near Mogilev-Podolsky? It’s about 500 km from Crimea and where can you catch this train? Maybe the Transnistrian partisans have become more active, they are just a stone's throw from this station. But for now there is a greater chance that the train simply derailed without external influence, which happens.
        1. +2
          17 February 2024 16: 08
          But to obtain information, you need satellites or the same agents, again reconnaissance from the same UAVs that can patrol for days over enemy territory, preferably with a large flight radius and quickly transmit information.
          1. 0
            17 February 2024 16: 15
            UAVs that can patrol for days over enemy territory,
            Does this happen in this war and deep in enemy territory? You are an optimist, however! There are also self-defense posts with slingshots and bows all around. laughing , which will not allow our Orions to fly. lol
            1. +2
              17 February 2024 16: 18
              Are you suggesting relying on partisans? Not a good prospect. As they say, trust in God, but don’t make a mistake yourself. The same Ukrainian Baba Yagas cause a lot of problems, although it’s just a converted agricultural drone from Ali Express and yes, it gets shot down too, but it creates a lot of problems and there’s not much control over it at the front They laugh, just as you are now laughing at the idea of ​​the widespread use of inexpensive UAVs. No one is laughing at the same FPV drones.
              1. 0
                17 February 2024 16: 25
                There should be a lot of UAVs and their price should not be high, so as not to be afraid of losing them, but to use them as consumables like the same Geraniums, Lancets, FPV drones.
              2. +2
                17 February 2024 16: 26
                And from the very beginning I was interested in the question, why are there no saboteurs in the rear?
                With modern means of sabotage, when there is no problem with all sorts of timers and remote detonation, placing 2 kg of TNT on the rail does not constitute a big conspiracy. Even in densely populated Ukraine, there are many places where the railway runs far from sight and any control. And I’m generally silent about the Carpathian passes, an ideal place for sabotage on the railway.
                1. +4
                  17 February 2024 16: 28
                  Until recently, we at the top did not have a basic idea of ​​what was really happening in Ukraine and what the mood was there until 2022, all the information was received from supposedly “pro-Russian” Ukrainians, and you want us to have partisans/saboteurs in Western Ukraine.
                  1. 0
                    17 February 2024 16: 36
                    No, I’m not even talking about Kovpak and Medvedev, I’m talking about our trained saboteurs from the GRU and special forces, who can be sent to the rear and taken out after sabotage. Perhaps this has been the case from the very beginning. It’s just that such work will never be advertised in the media, it should be. quiet and unspoken, with complete denial of our involvement.
                    1. 0
                      18 February 2024 10: 13
                      I'm talking about our trained saboteurs from the GRU and special forces, who can be sent to the rear and taken out after sabotage

                      Where to send? To Berdichev? Vinnitsa is far from the Russian border and the local population is not very friendly. Even “abandoning” will be a big problem. I'm afraid you have too cinematic and romantic ideas about saboteurs and their capabilities.
                      1. 0
                        19 February 2024 09: 12
                        Sergey, take the example of N. Kuznetsov, who was given documents of the German officer Paul Siebert, and with them he freely passed through all the posts and patrol controls....
                        Maybe, on the contrary, you have too primitive an understanding of the work of the GRU and special forces behind enemy lines? And I am sure that it is simply not the time to write about all the exploits and actions behind enemy lines, so as not to harm this unique work.
      6. 0
        17 February 2024 16: 27
        Collect?
        What if the fuses go off?
        When striking steel against steel, the accelerations can be very high.
        1. +1
          17 February 2024 17: 09
          Quote from: ln_ln
          Collect?
          What if the fuses go off?
          When striking steel against steel, the accelerations can be very high.

          There are two points.
          1. A projectile with a fuse must withstand a fall onto a concrete floor from a height of 5 meters.
          2. Shells are transported by railway without fuses. More precisely, the shells are separate, the fuses are separate.
      7. 0
        17 February 2024 16: 37
        So you answered your own question.)
      8. 0
        17 February 2024 16: 44
        Quote from: neworange88
        The shells were not destroyed. They can be collected
        And in order to “NOT collect” you need fall on the bridge, you can’t lift it from the bottom...
      9. +1
        17 February 2024 17: 01
        This can cause damage to the railway. And this is “not our method”, firstly, losses will be caused to shareholders - secondly. And most importantly, this whole mess does not serve the purpose.
        1. 0
          17 February 2024 18: 20
          Quote: Horn
          And this is “not our method”
          Bridges from Romania and Moldova to Ukraine "this is different" ))
          https://topwar.ru/197168-predstavleny-kadry-s-udarom-po-mostu-cherez-dnestrovskij-liman-v-odesskoj-oblasti.html
    2. +3
      17 February 2024 15: 31
      Quote: al3x
      I think there will be people in Ukraine who, for a good reward, will be able to derail a train.

      I suspect that these are still surviving Kovpak detachments. Well, comrade denazified the Nazis. And we need to support.
      1. +1
        17 February 2024 16: 18
        Cool, I remember in the Philippines, 30 years after WW2, Japanese soldiers came out of the forest, having not received the orders to surrender. And our Kovpak is still fighting!!!
        1. +1
          17 February 2024 17: 23
          Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
          our Kovpak is still fighting!!!

          Kovpak Sidor Artemyevich was born in 1887.
          According to the established version, he died in 1967.
          But this, of course, is for conspiracy purposes. He's on duty.
          Why did you wait for two years and not touch the trains with shells?
          So the age is 137 years old. While I got off the stove, I remembered where I got the explosives...
          1. 0
            17 February 2024 17: 52
            Quote: Captain Pushkin
            Kovpak Sidor Artemyevich was born in 1887.

            Such people are not born now. My grandson is in the first grade, and there is only one Ukrainian student there, and he says straight to the teacher’s face, “how I hate you.”
  3. +1
    17 February 2024 15: 20
    Not far from the village of Serebria, Vinnytsia region, a train with 155 mm shells and missiles, which were supposed to be delivered to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, was derailed

    Why didn’t the Russian Aerospace Forces notice earlier?
    1. +2
      17 February 2024 15: 38
      Maybe because they are opposed by NATO, which has x100 times more satellites??? Still can’t figure out who Russia is fighting with?
      1. +1
        17 February 2024 15: 53
        Quote: Shtynsky Dwarf
        Still can’t figure out who Russia is fighting with?

        You know, I figured this out back in 1990.
        1. 0
          17 February 2024 18: 33
          and what is your recipe for Victory if you “figure it out”?
          1. +1
            17 February 2024 18: 39
            Quote: Shtynsky Dwarf
            and what is your recipe for Victory if you “figure it out”?

            May 9, 1945. Two grandfathers were at the Victory Parade.
    2. +1
      17 February 2024 16: 11
      Why didn’t the Russian Aerospace Forces notice earlier?
      We don’t fly that far behind the front. But for a cruise missile you need absolutely accurate and preferably stationary objects. Or the movement schedule of trains with ammunition, I’m working on this... I already asked Yandex, but he sent me...
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  5. +6
    17 February 2024 15: 26
    Off topic. Sorry. Koksohim in Avdeevka is also ours. Guys, low bow to you. https://t.me/sashakots/45042
    1. -1
      17 February 2024 15: 53
      Quote: nikolas 83
      Off topic. Sorry. Koksohim in Avdeevka is also ours. Guys, low bow to you. https://t.me/sashakots/45042

      Great if so. Low bow to them. But so far only the flag has been raised. It’s still a long time before “Koksokim everything” happens.
  6. +3
    17 February 2024 15: 27
    “As for the “Ukrainian partisans”” -

    ***
    - Just wish there were less than three Ukrainians in this partisan detachment...
    ***
    1. 0
      17 February 2024 15: 31
      The late Chorovol used to say that the classic joke about a Ukrainian partisan detachment of three people with a traitor was incorrect. There's not one traitor there...
  7. -2
    17 February 2024 15: 35
    The news is of course good and you can rejoice... But I would like to see photo (video) confirmation. And yet, Dima Batut and citizen Konashenkov manage to “calculate” individual guns and MLRS installations. What prevents them from “calculating” and striking at trains? The railway train cannot constantly move - it still makes stops on railway stages... I fully understand that now the “hurray-patriots” will get excited.
  8. +5
    17 February 2024 15: 36
    But the note contains two messages at once: derailed and derailed...
    Which message is correct? After all, going off the rails does not always mean serious damage...
  9. ASM
    -1
    17 February 2024 15: 36
    Well, I sincerely congratulate the heirs of our partisans from the Great Patriotic War. Beat the bastard on Russian lands, beat him without pity! The main thing is that the technical and technical parts are delivered on time.
  10. +1
    17 February 2024 15: 37
    We need to caliber it while there.
  11. +2
    17 February 2024 15: 43
    The longer no one knows who did it, the better.
    For such cases, the popularity of the procedure is unnecessary.
  12. +2
    17 February 2024 15: 51
    He could have easily gotten off on his own... probably the sleepers haven’t been changed since the 80s, just like the Yankees
  13. 0
    17 February 2024 15: 54
    Quote: Vladimir M
    The news is of course good and you can rejoice... But I would like to see photo (video) confirmation. And yet, Dima Batut and citizen Konashenkov manage to “calculate” individual guns and MLRS installations. What prevents them from “calculating” and striking at trains? The railway train cannot constantly move - it still makes stops on railway stages... I fully understand that now the “hurray-patriots” will get excited.

    For now you can watch video and photo confirmation from Avdeevvka
  14. +3
    17 February 2024 15: 55
    The shells will not reach if they are detonated. Which is not mentioned in the article. Otherwise, they will waste time getting ready. and they will take you further. so now is the time to send airplanes there or something else.
  15. +3
    17 February 2024 16: 11
    Come on, they all exploded or something. They will collect it, load it into a new train, and that’s it. Postponement only. The locomotive may have shut down, that's a good thing. Still, not bad. Next time it would be good to derail a train with artillery or tanks. Those can be damaged in a crash.
  16. +1
    17 February 2024 16: 13
    However, it is almost unmistakable to assume the following: if these Ukrainian partisans committed one such successful sabotage against Bandera’s army, then, most likely, it will be followed by other sabotage actions, no less significant.

    It seems that this has already happened in Odessa, then this was the second train.
  17. 0
    17 February 2024 16: 14
    Well done, otherwise ours is tighter, and then it’s puffing up there.
    At least not through one gate
  18. +1
    17 February 2024 16: 24
    As rightly noted here, the main question is whether there was detonation during the derailment. The missiles, let's say, are damaged in this case. But I don’t care about shells.
  19. +2
    17 February 2024 16: 27
    We wish the unknown to continue to remain so drinks
  20. +2
    17 February 2024 16: 47
    Downhill is good. Was there detonation? Otherwise, they will collect and deliver. Just delayed. So now the detonator should be delivered there immediately. A missile or a drone.
    1. +1
      17 February 2024 17: 39
      Not bad idea. Although, probably, entire carriages have already been driven away, but simply scattered ammunition is not so easy to detonate.
  21. +1
    17 February 2024 16: 57
    Wow! Not Dnepropetrovsk from the east, but western ones from Vinnitsa! This means that we were unable to bomb the railway tracks, but the partisans were able to. If not fake, these guys are real heroes.
  22. 0
    17 February 2024 17: 38
    the train was derailed by Ukrainian partisans

    But this is a rail war. Possibly organized by Russian Defense Ministry intelligence!
    If so, well done! We've been waiting for a long time! We need a detachment of Medvedev and Kuznetsov behind enemy lines!
  23. 0
    17 February 2024 17: 46
    We can only rely on the partisans - ours, because it’s a pity to bomb a piece of iron or something. request
  24. +1
    17 February 2024 18: 16
    did the shells detonate or what?..
    1. +1
      18 February 2024 10: 16
      If they had detonated, not only welders, but also turners, milling operators and others would have reported it.
  25. fiv
    0
    17 February 2024 19: 18
    At the farm seance, instead of the spirit of Bandera (so that he would burn in hell), they disturbed the spirit of Kovpak. Now hold on, banderlogs!
  26. 0
    17 February 2024 19: 56
    Well, that’s it, that means Kyiv will send Sonderkommandos there to restore order and punish the perpetrators. Yak was started under Bandera’s grandfathers..
  27. +1
    17 February 2024 23: 07
    What will happen to the shells? The paint will only be scratched. The detonators in the shells are not screwed in, so they won’t go off, but they will be collected and sent further. A bit late
  28. 0
    18 February 2024 08: 39
    The best thing in this case is to remain silent or remain silent
  29. +1
    18 February 2024 09: 59
    Actually between
    the train was derailed

    и
    the ammunition train really went off the rails

    very big difference. The author of the article, it seems, himself does not really believe in the welders’ statement about partisan sabotage.
    this fact has not yet been confirmed. True, the Ukrainian side does not refute it.

    Perhaps they simply don’t read the telegram channel “Welders”.
    1. 0
      18 February 2024 11: 46
      I think everything is much simpler, the PMS workers were mobilized, or they themselves went elsewhere. There is no one to monitor the railway tracks. Here is the result.
      1. 0
        18 February 2024 12: 04
        PMS workers mobilized

        Are these gynecologists, or what? :))
        I think that derailments of cars happen in all countries, even if none of the railway workers are mobilized.
        Moreover, the article was written based on the OBS source. :))
  30. 0
    18 February 2024 11: 46
    It's good if it's true. But in such an incident, not all carriages leave. And not all shells fall off and are rejected. And not all carriages carry shells. Explosion is needed for a good result.
  31. 0
    18 February 2024 13: 19
    Don't they look like Petrov and Bashirov?
  32. -1
    18 February 2024 14: 07
    At the crash site, the Russian command was obliged to strike with Geraniums and Daggers. And so they will load it and take it to the front
  33. 0
    18 February 2024 16: 12
    Recent story. Old partisan: Grandma, Nemtsi in the village e? Yaki Nemtsi, fool, the war has been almost 80 years since it ended. Oh, I’m old, I’m still tearing up trains on a piece of iron. But wait a minute, Bandera has been sitting in Kyiv for 10 years now. You brought me back to life, it turns out I’m doing everything right.
  34. 0
    19 February 2024 07: 40
    Personally, what worries me is not who helped, but why from Romania, Poland, etc., such “good” gets to Ukraine with virtually no obstacles?
  35. 0
    19 February 2024 08: 17
    The SVO should have started with the blocking of the western transport corridor, and not boasted of one-time actions for the first time in two years..
  36. +1
    19 February 2024 12: 23
    It looks like a fire in a warehouse on the eve of an audit, and not like partisans.