The analytical program "However," with Mikhail Leontyev 29 January 2013

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From the social gatherings in Davos, where the world’s beau monde gathers every year, it’s ridiculous to wait for any insights and recipes for salvation. However, it is a good indicator of the sentiment of the world economic official.

At the forum in Davos, three scenarios for Russia were presented, commissioned by the forum mainly by domestic experts. All three scenarios turned out to be more or less pessimistic in the context of an equally pessimistic external conjuncture. But the most pessimistic scenario turned out to be that presented by the former Minister of Finance Alexei Kudrin.

"Among the conditions of this scenario are low growth rates in Russia and non-institutional reforms. The price of oil may drop to 60 dollars, which significantly puts our Russian budget in a difficult position," he said.

From the cartoon "Winnie the Pooh": "A pitiful sight! A heartbreaking sight! A nightmare!"

“Even whatever oil prices are, they will not give such an increase in revenues. Everything. We have exhausted this source,” said A. Kudrin.
From the cartoon "Winnie the Pooh": "Well, well, I thought so. From this side is no better."

Interestingly, Kudrin is telling the truth. As usual. Here, everything that he sees, he says. With the accuracy of an intelligent accountant. No more and no less.
In the same interview in Davos, Kudrin in the interview with Spiegel repeated his claims to the current Russian military budget: "These people forgot that the Soviet Union suffered a collapse primarily because of the arms race ... It is impossible for us to repeat this mistake today. The longer we delay political and economic reform, the worse. "

Where pop and where is the parish? And what kind of reforms are these that abolish the minimum necessary expenditures on national security ?! In fact, Kudrin is demanding the abandonment of the only essentially existing development program, which is the current state defense order. In fact, all the Davos screenwriters in Russia are united by one thing: they proceed from the fact that the Russian government will under no circumstances resort to active structural industrial policy. Essentially, top-controlled re-industrialization. That is, they come from this. And why should we proceed?

Nouriel Roubini, an economic guru, the only wizard of Davos, who predicted the current crisis, once again predicts an economic catastrophe that can start anywhere. Because of the huge American debt, the giant Chinese bubble, or, what is most worrying about it, the collapse of the eurozone due to problems with Italy and Spain.

In fact, Rubini is such an American global Kudrin. Economic akyns: what they see is about that and they sing. Without having any idea about where it came from and where it will take out. These people are deeply systemic. And it is impossible to understand from within the system crisis system. And get out of it inside the system is impossible. This is the main lesson of Davos. Davos is a disease, not a doctor. And the doctors there will not be allowed.
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  1. konnd
    +3
    30 January 2013 09: 06
    Everything is as usual. Nothing new. The stump is clear that you need a doctor. But where to get it now?
    1. +19
      30 January 2013 09: 41
      Quote: konnd
      The stump is clear that you need a doctor. But where to get it now?
      But what the hell is it for? Treat the world economy? The US economy, the eurozone economy? As they say in the East, every donkey should wear his ears ...
      1. ZKBM-BUT
        +2
        30 January 2013 10: 29
        my grandmother and grandfather never went to the hospital and were always proud of their excellent health. and when the cancer knocked both of them off their feet at once, the doctors said bluntly - we are powerless, they will die, take them home, we don't need them in the hospital, as soon as they spoil the statistics. the aunt screamed madly at the doctors and said everything she did. what's the use? there is no point in blaming the doctor if you never go to the hospital yourself. the situation is exactly the same with our economies. first, the USSR collapsed, which had accumulated and unrecognized problems for decades, now the states will "glue the flippers" from the same ailment. and no ruby ​​will help.
      2. +2
        30 January 2013 11: 16
        And then horses carried to paradise.

        Russia terminates the agreement with the United States on cooperation in law enforcement and drug control, the government press service said.
        This document was signed on September 25, 2002. Under the agreement, the United States regularly provided financial assistance to Russian authorities for the implementation of anti-criminal projects.


        This is now how?
        Now the US is buying and growing "geru" without us?
        Maybe the US broke the price for the "product" or stopped returning VAT?

        After each "friendly drinking" (Davos forum, as an example) with "Budun" someone starts to remember how much they drank and ate. Oh, this "policy"
        1. S_mirnov
          -8
          30 January 2013 13: 03
          The article is a rather pathetic attempt to justify Medvedev’s failure in Taoist. Let me remind you that Medvedev went to Davos to attract foreign investors to Russia, in the process of speaking, investors got up and left the hall. Being sane people, investors are well aware of where the Russian economy is heading (in other matters, the political demarche cannot be ruled out either, but this does not correct the situation with the economy)
          http://news.rambler.ru/17323952/
          However, Misha Leontiev is trying to make a good face with a bad game. We don’t need investors like foreign investors, then the question is - Why did they go to Davos? I would ignore this party of pessimists who do not believe in the miracle of GDP and the whole business!
          But in order to shift his emphasis and cover up the mess of Medvedev, the Brave journalist drew the gloomy Kudrin and made all the investors sick, and in order to get more people outraged he also drew some kind of bike, saying that Kudrin does not want to finance her!
          In general, a kindergarten!
          By the way, an article about the army, and Kudrin’s campaign is not necessary there:
          http://lenta.ru/news/2013/01/30/su27ub/
          1. +7
            30 January 2013 15: 03
            Quote: S_mirnov
            Let me remind you that Medvedev went to Davos to attract foreign investors to Russia, in the process of speaking, investors got up and left the hall. Being sane people, investors are well aware of where the Russian economy is heading (in other matters, the political demarche cannot be ruled out either, but this does not correct the situation with the economy)

            Political demarche, this is the main reason.
            And the links that you provide, they are not convincing, because the engagement of these publications is a parable.
            But on one thing I agree with you. This party must be ignored. Which in general has been done. Medvedev, this is a doll, it is obvious to everyone. And it’s good that the time of this clown is ending.
            Quote: S_mirnov
            investors are well aware of where the Russian economy is heading

            And where is she going? She didn't roll she flew in the 90s under the leadership of orthodox liberals, and now there is a slow process of healing and purging purulent liberal sepsis.
            And by the way, about defense spending.
            Today, Russia, unlike the United States, lives within its means with a surplus budget, but in the United States, the economy, which you think seems healthy, spends money on defense that they borrow! And Kudrin and you, this does not bother you at all.
            Quote: S_mirnov
            S_mirnov
            Explain to me this creative logic?
            Thank you in advance.
            1. Oleg Rosskiyy
              +2
              30 January 2013 20: 43
              ATATA,
              There are still sane people. Yours faithfully! hi
              1. +1
                30 January 2013 20: 53
                Oleg Rosskiyy,
                I support sanity! hi
            2. S_mirnov
              -4
              30 January 2013 21: 00
              "And the links that you cite, they are not convincing, since the bias of these publications" is not a matter of bias, it is a matter of information, it can be presented in different ways, but it is everyone's business to perceive and think about it.
              "Medvedev, this is a doll, it is obvious to everyone." -How did he become a president and a prime minister, again the liberals are to blame?
              "And it's good that the time of this clown is running out" - like Serdyukov? Shit and calm down?
              “It didn’t roll, it flew to the 90s under the leadership of orthodox liberals” - and now our country is not governed by liberals? maybe the privatization was canceled and the market economy?
              "Explain to me this creative logic?
              "- I do not understand, explain.
            3. +2
              30 January 2013 23: 10
              Quote: ATATA
              Explain to me this creative logic?
              Thank you in advance.

              Do not hope, Alex. Mr. S-Mirnov has serious problems with logic hi
              1. S_mirnov
                -3
                31 January 2013 00: 27
                Respond for yourself, I don’t need answering machines.
          2. Oleg Rosskiyy
            +4
            30 January 2013 20: 40
            S_mirnov,
            Well, of course, Kudrin said everything correctly. If there were fewer such collaterals in Russia as he and linguistic fornication, you see investors would not have turned away. But nothing, dashing trouble began, soon they themselves will run with offers.
            1. S_mirnov
              -3
              31 January 2013 00: 30
              Investors profitable for Russia will not come to us. This is described in detail in Parshev's book Why Russia Is Not America. I highly recommend reading to everyone who likes to think with their own head.
              1. +2
                1 February 2013 23: 56
                Quote: S_mirnov
                Investors profitable for Russia will not come to us. This is described in detail in Parshev's book "Why Russia is not America"

                The book is interesting, makes you move your brain. So, stirring the brains, you come to the conclusion that Parshev reasoned linearly. His conclusions about the non-competitive production of traditional goods in the climatic conditions of Russia are only partially true. It should be borne in mind that technologies in construction and energy conservation have stepped far forward, and significantly offset the costs of production in Russia and Western Europe or Asia. But most importantly, his conclusions do not concern monopoly products, as well as innovative, high-tech products, where the main component of pricing is not the spent materials and energy costs, but the embedded intelligence. An example of such a product, computer programs, etc.
          3. wax
            +1
            30 January 2013 23: 10
            Why did they go to Davos?

            To get another lesson.
            After Medvedev, George Soros took the floor. He recommended that investors who plan to invest in Russia do not. He is confident that Russian President Vladimir Putin is leading the country to a final collapse.
            This lesson is called - don’t go wrong yourself and don’t hope for the West.
            1. S_mirnov
              -2
              31 January 2013 10: 05
              "Why did you go to Davos?" - sell another piece of the Motherland!
    2. +2
      30 January 2013 15: 48
      Only Putin can send doctors ... like Mechel ...)))
      1. Oleg Rosskiyy
        +3
        30 January 2013 20: 46
        Quote: mark021105
        Only Putin can send doctors

        The doctor will not help here anymore, this is cancer in the Western economy, and to a very neglected stage. Putting obstacles to Russia, they did not notice how their economy was profiled. lol
  2. +10
    30 January 2013 09: 17
    How did all this liberal shushera get to learn how to live in our country! Kudrin, for example ... guano with a swollen conceit of the greatest economist. Go to the United States or a geyropu. It’s their crisis there, they have spending on the army and complete democracy. There, from people like you, it will probably be beneficial for Russia.
    1. +7
      30 January 2013 09: 43
      Quote: Pharao7766
      How did all this liberal shushera get to learn how to live in our country!
      laughing So the mote in the OTHER eye is always much better visible than the log in OWN .... Let them teach, and we will be like that caravan ... go and go ... The second millennium we go and nothing ...
  3. fenix57
    +29
    30 January 2013 09: 28
    Yes ... late .. late to send SMS to Davos with a confession about how we have them "LOVE, AND WE LOOK FOR THEIR OPINION":
    1. +9
      30 January 2013 09: 44
      laughing The dog is years old, the wind is ... The caravan is coming ... And SMS is beautifully decorated ... 152 mm .. this is the format you need
    2. +6
      30 January 2013 11: 03
      Awesome, without translation into the language of the recipient SMS. More good, understandable SMS to those who do not understand!
      1. -1
        30 January 2013 13: 08
        And who knows, such painted shells didn’t litter the trunks?
        The paint is on.
        Or for such a caliber .. Barbary?
        Or is it an advertisement? And then shells - cleaned before firing?
        1. +3
          30 January 2013 13: 10
          Compared to clogging the barrel with the products of gunpowder combustion, it’s not even a baribir ...
        2. +1
          30 January 2013 18: 57
          Quote: Igarr
          And who knows, such painted shells didn’t litter the trunks?
          The paint is on.

          They wrote in chalk, so that until the explosion everything was preserved.
        3. +1
          31 January 2013 02: 55
          Quote: Igarr
          barbir

          Barabir translated from Uzbek - anyway. Or from Turkic, which generally has common roots in this expression.
  4. +9
    30 January 2013 09: 34
    the price of oil will not fall much either in the distant or in the near future ..
    how Europe became agitated as soon as Russia began to build pipelines to Asia ..
    1. +2
      30 January 2013 14: 19
      Yes, I got this "Pudrin" of brains. Yes, let him go through the forest into the swamp.
  5. +12
    30 January 2013 09: 55
    And people like Kudrin are in power, and we are wondering why the ruble is not equal to the dollar, but here they generally want to destroy the country and openly say that Russia does not need weapons. Continue reforms, but reforms are devastation and betrayal. We have already had enough of these "reforms", let him go to the states and move his reforms there, or maybe this is a knight's move ... so that the West thinks ... that reforms are underway .... Then this is a very subtle variation.
    1. +4
      30 January 2013 11: 39
      Alexfu,
      or maybe it's a knight's move ... so that the West thinks ... that reforms are underway ...


      This Trojan horse is Kudrin! And his forecasts are well paid !!! am
      1. +4
        30 January 2013 19: 34
        Quote: sergo0000
        Trojan horse this Kudrin!

        In my opinion, just a pedal horse wassat
  6. Frigate
    -30
    30 January 2013 09: 58
    Yes, the MASTER is panicky afraid of the USA and Europe
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/301/dbuj855.jpg
    1. +8
      30 January 2013 10: 11
      This is from what nostril you picked out this wretched conclusion ???
      1. Frigate
        0
        30 January 2013 20: 54
        Quote: submariner
        This is from what nostril you picked out this wretched conclusion ???

        what we are nervous and insulting. The person has no nostrils and change the tone, please.
    2. -1
      30 January 2013 15: 39
      Quote: Frigate

      Yes, the MASTER is panicky afraid of the USA and Europe
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/301/dbuj855.jpg

      Do you know what kind of character is on your demotivator? You can get hold of such a warning. negative
      1. YuDDP
        +1
        30 January 2013 20: 29
        lewerlin53rus, and what kind of character?
        1. Frigate
          0
          30 January 2013 21: 01
          A PLUS. Yes, and what kind of character is this? I didn’t sign the name of the host)))
      2. Frigate
        -1
        30 January 2013 21: 00
        Quote: lewerlin53rus
        Do you know what kind of character is on your demotivator? You can get hold of such a warning.

        Firstly: here on the site, if you were monitoring censorship from the very beginning, then half of the visitors would not be here now, including you, probably, no offense.
        Secondly: Authoritative people were already represented here in a miserable way, for the last time even HIMSELF MOST TYMOSHENKO, that is, they made him a ped ... ka, but is this not an insult? What no, but in such an image he does not deserve to be, in the image of a male corpse - YES, in the image of TYMOSHENKO - NO
        1. 0
          30 January 2013 22: 07
          If you post any pictures, then at least you should know what it really means. And this character is called "Rashka-square quilted jacket", (google the details yourself) which directly violates the rules of the site. And if you want censorship, for God's sake, I will remove this obscenity.

          Quote: Frigate
          Authoritative people were already represented here in a miserable way, for the last time even by HIMSELF ONE AS TYMOSHENKO
          Is Hitler authority for you?
  7. +4
    30 January 2013 10: 07
    Do not listen to Kudrin, or rather listen and do the opposite. According to this most effective financier, the army and the military-industrial complex are not needed, only banks are needed, and he is at the head of the Central Bank. And the rest of the riffraff, let it remain at the beck and call
    1. SSR
      0
      30 January 2013 11: 28
      Quote: valokordin
      Do not listen to Kudrin

      yes well, his white-ribbon hamster ... he has finally proved himself in the "swamp" he clearly showed whose chulawek he is .. he is from liberal Westernizers
      they proceed from the fact that under no circumstances will the Russian government resort to an active structural industrial policy.

      They definitely do not want Russia to revive its industry ..
      People often doubt in conversations .. that we have taken part of Europe into energy "tongs" and everyone talks only about oil and gas and many simply "forget" that, for example, rods (TVELs) that are used by many countries are the most advanced In Russia and Russia are far ahead left for their production.
      In general, I mean that .. that Western liberals know and are afraid that Russia may also come forward in other sectors and become a legislator in industry (happiness is not in mobile phones))))
      1. Pit
        Pit
        +4
        30 January 2013 12: 34
        Quote: valokordin
        Do not listen to Kudrin

        Quote from S.S.R.
        Russia may also come forward in other sectors

        In general, practice shows that if a home-grown libert began to boil and the media got over us from behind a mound, and all sorts of experts give us a complete ... draw, then we started to do something right.
        1. Oleg Rosskiyy
          +1
          30 January 2013 20: 54
          Pit,
          In, in, Russia, as a body after being wounded, after the 90s was sick, and after the 2000s it started to itch. Heals.
  8. mamba
    -5
    30 January 2013 10: 10
    "low growth rates in Russia and lack of institutional reforms. The oil price may drop to $ 60, which significantly puts our Russian budget in a difficult position."
    This threat has long hung over our economy, but all of Putin’s and Medvedev’s governments have not done anything to restructure the Russian economy, resting nicely on their petrodollar laurels. Perhaps it will carry and there will be no reduction in oil prices? As if there was no precedent: the collapse in oil prices arranged by Reagan for the USSR!
    all the Davos scriptwriters in Russia have one thing in common: they proceed from the fact that the Russian government under no circumstances will resort to an active structural industrial policy. Essentially, top-driven reindustrialization. That is, they proceed from this. And why should we proceed?
    That is, the West understands better than us what the effectiveness of our government is and it pleases him. And we all hope for the best. Will we survive?
    1. +1
      30 January 2013 10: 22
      By the way, get acquainted, this is the same KUDRIN !!!
      1. mamba
        +1
        30 January 2013 12: 49
        Quote: submariner
        By the way, get acquainted, this is the same KUDRIN !!!

        Volodya from Bryansk, if this is your attack in my direction, then not at the address. I am not Kudrin, not a liberal, but a patriot of my Motherland, but unlike you, I am not a patriot who minus anyone who dared to open his mouth to an untouchable tandem. I honestly stated the reasons for my dissatisfaction with the activities of this couple in my post. If you, besides this joke, have nothing more to say, it would be better to look around before clicking on your heels and standing on the hood at every mention of the authorities. Maybe you will see clearly and understand that the Homeland is actually in danger.
        1. Oleg Rosskiyy
          0
          30 January 2013 20: 59
          Quote: mamba
          that the homeland is actually in danger.

          Blogger rats, blogger companions and blogger critics pose a great danger to the Motherland; this, with their, perhaps not intentional, but all the same filing, forms an opinion about Russia.
          1. mamba
            0
            31 January 2013 10: 05
            Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
            Blogger rats, blogger companions and blogger critics pose a great danger to the Motherland; this, with their, perhaps not intentional, but all the same filing, forms an opinion about Russia.

            I answer in the same style. A great danger to the Motherland is represented by those who consciously ignore the outrages that are happening in Russia, closing their eyes and closing their mouths to other people. These are, as a rule, Nashi and Edros. But they are bonded people and there is no demand from them.
            There are cheers-patriots who are ready to forgive Putin everything, just because he did not let Russia completely fall apart. Such people can still be advised to look around and ask themselves if they go unpunished:
            - budget cuts in all sectors and at all levels;
            - kickbacks for any projects;
            - bribes for any reason;
            - protection of gambling business by our prosecutor's office;
            - reduced funding for retirees and veterans. In Saratov, where I live, tripled the cost of tickets for war and labor veterans;
            - a constant increase in tariffs and taxes with meager pensions and beggarly wages. Monopolists, apparently, have become impoverished, and pensioners who receive half of the pension calculated for them will be re-sorted somehow. And in general, enough, we lived ...
            But there are initiative people, power fanatics, peculiar epigones or apostles who persistently promote her ideas to the masses. The main thing for them is how we look from the outside. It’s even hard to find a name. A peculiar form of aesthetics on bones. I don’t understand these at all.
            So to which of them do you, Oleg, relate yourself?
            I hope you understand that none of the foreigners will read our butts on a patriotic Russian site and will not change their opinion about Russia, no matter how we chew or swallow snot. Foreigners form their opinions about Russia from completely different sources. Firstly, by analyzing the mistakes of our government in domestic and foreign policy that are harmful to Russia. Secondly, evaluating the behavior of our politicians, officials, oligarchs, middle class representatives both domestically and abroad. Thirdly, watching the reaction of the media. Fourth, periodically looking at the mood of bloggers, especially on liberal sites. I do not visit such sites and I do not respect the liberals of the Amer’s spill.
        2. +3
          30 January 2013 22: 33
          Yes, Seryoga from Saratov! Yes, I'm a patriot !!! Yes, so what ???
          As for the tandem, you are mistaken, I simply can’t stand the spirit, and I respect Putin ... I just respect that he alone was able to prevent the fall of the country and the nation into the abyss of darkness and anarchy ... simply because I remember 90 years ...
          Yes, Seryoga from Saratov, the time will come when Mother Motherland will say - "your time has come Volodya" - I will click my heels and stand on the hood to protect it from any filth ... and nichrome will not stop me ..
          That's something like Seryoga from Saratov .....
          And last but not least, I respect the opinion of each person, because I believe that every person is somewhat unique, but not every person I respect as a person ..
          But Seryoga from Saratov doesn’t apply to you ..., yes, I was disappointed with your comment, I allowed myself too much, but I respect your opinion ... and nothing more ...
          1. mamba
            +2
            30 January 2013 23: 42
            Thank you, Volodya for an honest answer. Sorry if I offended you with something. I also respect Putin for all the good that he has done for Russia, lifting it from its knees, tearing oligarchs out of its clutches, and shaking the hands of the amers greedy for our natural wealth. But I believe that for all the years that he has been in power, he could have done much more for Russia. He should not have allowed rampant corruption, the destruction of industry, science, health, education, the army, which began with the GMS and EBN. It is he who bears direct responsibility for this, not even a temporary worker, Medvedev, about whom there is nothing to say.
            Hurray, the patriots of our site unanimously minus me, and Oleg was so naughty in general. I had almost finished answering him, but then some s_ka turned off the light in our block for half an hour and everything went off. I'll continue tomorrow if I have time at work. It's too late. I have to get up early tomorrow.
  9. Atlon
    +6
    30 January 2013 10: 34
    There is one unsurpassed doctor for all time ... World War. But just how reluctant to surrender to this doctor ... For he will cure not all, but only some. The rest will go "for organs" as donors ...
    1. +2
      30 January 2013 15: 23
      Such a doctor is called a pathologist. The doctor, of course, but there are posthumous diagnoses and no treatment, it’s understandable ...
    2. +1
      30 January 2013 15: 30
      Quote: Atlon
      There is one unsurpassed doctor at all times ... World War II. That's just, like the reluctance to surrender to this doctor ...

      The doctor said to the morgue, then to the morgue. lol I would like to do without the help of a pathologist.
    3. 0
      30 January 2013 17: 45
      Quote: Atlon
      There is one unsurpassed doctor at all times ... World War

      Only patients in the morgue are predefined. Do you want to leave snowballs ?? vomiting? Or the laurels of Atlantis do not give rest? Or do you think you can sit out in the Siberian forests until the muttus passes ...... you can do it right, then at least stock up with salt and not with ties.
  10. +1
    30 January 2013 10: 40
    It is naive to hope for a drop in oil prices (and for the rest of raw materials) with the inflationary potential that the US economy has accumulated.
    Almost 17000000000000 billion US debt hangs over everyone’s head and when it is torn it is not clear. So that, at least, there is a tendency towards a decrease in dollar inflation (and rising oil prices are nothing but this inflation), it is necessary to stop pumping up the US economy with exaggerated money.
    What Reagan arranged was a local effect, and now it’s possible to repeat this only by dropping the dollar to its real purchasing power. To devalue it and only then it is possible to get some rollback. But it’s relatively new prices, not current ones.
  11. Misantrop
    +2
    30 January 2013 10: 42
    The economy of the leading world powers can be saved (for a sufficiently long time) only by injecting gigantic quantities of raw materials at a bargain price. Such stocks are currently available ONLY in Russia. And now we’ll think, DOES Russia's army NEED ... recourse By the way, against this background, the focus of Serdyukov’s activities is becoming clearer. Yes, and Medvedev - too. His desire to privatize the remaining state sector of the country's economy is nothing more than the desire of the West to get hold of a freebie by the fact that the new owners of IMHO will begin to sell
    1. 0
      30 January 2013 14: 41
      Something is not said about either vouchers from privatization, or a decrease in the dollar exchange rate, or an increase in benefits, funds (such as Norwegian ones), or the construction of apartments for money from privatization. They want to sell / give to "effective" owners who already have a lot of things They were transported to London. But there, apparently, life is expensive and a little lacking. This is the property of the former USSR. And every inhabitant has the RIGHT to it. "It is necessary to share"
  12. 0
    30 January 2013 10: 49
    Kudrin, of the same monetarists, stupidly following these ideas. Modernization, institutional reforms, etc., etc. With Bernanke hanging on one wire.
    And without it everyone knows that one cannot go far on hydrocarbons alone, for this one does not have to be the Minister of Finance, even though the former.
    1. Misantrop
      0
      30 January 2013 11: 25
      Quote: Lazer
      And without it everyone knows that one cannot go far on hydrocarbons alone, for this one does not have to be the Minister of Finance, even though the former.

      So he was the Minister of Finance. And ... he was driving on hydrocarbons alone. And from all his financial undertakings and innovations, it only got worse. Expect sensible advice from him? No.
  13. fenix57
    +1
    30 January 2013 11: 53
    Quote: Forget
    as soon as Russia began to build pipelines to Asia ..

    Let me continue: hi
  14. +1
    30 January 2013 12: 19
    what is noteworthy is the fact that the Americans do not hide, then we read the information below

    The US does not want to transfer the post-Soviet space to the Kremlin

    MINSK, January 30. In Minsk, representatives of the delegation of the US State Department, led by the coordinator of the US assistance program for Europe and Eurasia, Daniel Rosenblum met with the leaders of the Belarusian opposition.
    .................................
    According to Lebedko, Rosenblum gave answers to some questions of concern to the politician. So, the diplomat explained that the US actions regarding Belarus will largely depend on the team of the new secretary of state, but in general, US policy will be consistent and consistent. Rosenblum also emphasized that The United States is not going to exclude the post-Soviet space from the list of discussion issues and transfer it to the Kremlin, passes 5min.by.

    More details: http://www.rosbalt.ru/exussr/2013/01/30/1087515.html
    1. Vadimber
      +4
      30 January 2013 14: 47
      Here is our plan in return!
    2. Oleg Rosskiyy
      +1
      30 January 2013 21: 05
      Apollo,
      Russian liberals do not care, as they say, "with ... in the eyes, but for him it is all the same God's dew" (God forgive me). These are the Russian liberals.
  15. +2
    30 January 2013 12: 21
    The West is afraid of strengthening Russia - this is a red thread, especially in the defense sphere! And Kudrin is a herald of the West, and this is understandable to the cat, so he voices these thoughts, and he himself diapers ... out of fear ... but the money needs to be worked out ...
  16. sergskak
    +1
    30 January 2013 12: 38
    That’s all, reeling up fishing rods and getting ready for the worst.
  17. +1
    30 January 2013 14: 34
    Misha is right as always.
    Who cares about the opinion of ex-minister Kudrin, except for his Western friends. A good minister from the government will not be put up as a kitten who has cheated on the owner’s carpet. Vaughn Sergey Kozhugetovich Shoigu is still in the Government, a person works at his post, trying to bring benefit to the Fatherland.
    Indeed, they don’t see logs of Jesus in reality in their eyes, but they poke Russia on every mote. The price of oil in dollars will fall. Definitely not Russia and China.

  18. MG42
    +4
    30 January 2013 15: 11
    Davos is such a secular buffet. We sat, talked, drank champagne, dined and ran away. The fifth column in Russia was represented there in the person of Kudrin. Davos is a ski resort in Switzerland, how much money taxpayers spend there on these all official delegations = Mama Do not Cry! And the Swiss unrealistic rise in money! winked
    1. +2
      30 January 2013 20: 17
      MG42,

      Davos is a gathering of the world's "okolokorytnyh" liberal scavengers designed to litter the brain with various macroeconomic theories. overheating of the market, etc. in order to) America (and its henchmen and appendages) could still live beyond their means, transferring inflation through the mechanism of loan interest to our shoulders, thereby supporting consumer demand and the purchasing power of our citizens, covering up the outright robbery in the form of primarily selling resources for unsecured pieces of paper, fables about the fact that they are the most intelligent, technologically advanced, civilized and democratic, and everyone else should strive for this. And whoever doesn’t want is seeking for those, besides exporting inflation, exporting democracy in the form of wars and revolutions.
      So the main task of our liberals in this forum is to show the powers that be that we ARE striving for.
  19. +1
    30 January 2013 15: 18
    Well, Kudrin generally said that Russia would join the EU earlier than Ukraine! Probably voiced his dreams under the influence of degrees! lol
    1. +1
      30 January 2013 15: 44
      Quote: Egoza
      Russia will join the EU earlier than Ukraine

      Yes, as if the EU did not request Russia
      1. +3
        30 January 2013 19: 39
        Quote: lewerlin53rus
        Yes, as if the EU did not request Russia

        And we will take and not accept bully
        1. +1
          30 January 2013 21: 55
          Quote: Ruslan67
          And we will take and not accept

          Indeed, why do we need a crowd of poor lesbians and homosexuals
  20. vovas
    +1
    30 January 2013 15: 25
    MG42 Davos, this is not a buffet table about ,,, a thieves ’gangway, From Russia they decide where to put,“ sawed ”money ..
    1. MG42
      +2
      30 January 2013 15: 42
      Quote: vovas
      MG42 Davos, this is not a buffet table about ,,, thieves' gangway

      So not so. + The fact is that in Davos there are official delegations and presidents, well, for example, our Yanukovych = 2 has. As for how the CIS business earned the first lemon = the seizure of national property, the bandits there were in raspberry jackets and bismarcs of kg per neck in the dashing 90s. As for the Westerners, here Soros take a regular there = ordinary successful stock market speculator.
  21. aleksandr46
    -4
    30 January 2013 16: 57
    "....." The history of Germany is, to some extent, a cast of the history of Belarus at certain stages. At one time, Germany was raised from the ruins, thanks to a very tough power by the famous Adolf Hitler ... Not all bad things in Germany were associated with the famous Adolf Hitler. The German order has evolved over the centuries, and under Hitler, this formation reached its highest point. This is what corresponds to our understanding of the presidential republic and the role of the president in it ... Hitler formed a powerful Germany thanks to a strong presidential power ... Germany rose thanks to a strong government, thanks to the fact that the whole nation was able to consolidate and unite around a strong leader ... The head of state is the president, his authority and its leading role come out on top at this stage ... German history teaches us this "- A. Lukashenko, 1995.
    More details: http://www.rosbalt.ru/exussr/2013/01/29/1087066.html
    1. +5
      30 January 2013 19: 41
      Apparently he taught history poorly. Especially German laughing
  22. gtc5ydgs
    0
    30 January 2013 17: 48
    Have you heard the news? The Russian authorities are already insolent in the end. They made this database
    zipurl. ws / sngbaza where you can find information about any resident of Russia, Ukraine and other CIS countries. I was really very surprised that there were a lot of interesting things about me (addresses, phone numbers, even my photos of a different nature) - I wonder where they dug it up. In general, there are also good sides - this information can be deleted from the site.
    I advise you to hurry, you never know how to fumble there ...
  23. Vespasian
    0
    30 January 2013 20: 47
    The doctor will not help time to call the pastor.

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