AUG without aircraft carriers: constant problems plague British Navy ships of the Queen Elizabeth class

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AUG without aircraft carriers: constant problems plague British Navy ships of the Queen Elizabeth class

After the British Navy announced on February 2 that the aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth would carry out "historical NATO mission”, setting off for the alliance’s largest exercise, the next day it turned out that the ship was unable to take part in the maneuvers, as a problem was discovered with the coupling on the starboard propeller shaft.

What's wrong with the British Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carriers?

- ask the question in the publication Naval Technology.



As noted, the sister ship Prince of Wales itself only recently returned to sea due to problems with the propeller shaft:

Are mechanical problems, especially those related to the propulsion system, a problem with relatively new warships, or is it something more complex?


As noted, during their short service, both aircraft carriers were constantly plagued by problems. In August 2022, HMS Prince of Wales experienced problems with its starboard propeller shaft, disrupting its intended Atlantic crossing. After that, she spent a long time being repaired in dry docks.

It is pointed out that according to the Parliamentary report, after commissioning, HMS Prince of Wales spent almost 33% of its time on repairs, and the figure for “time at sea” was even lower, amounting to only 21,3%. In the 1251 days since the aircraft carrier was put into operation, the ship spent only 267 days at sea, the remaining days at the berth or in the dock for repairs.

Currently, the AUG in the Mediterranean Sea is actually left without an aircraft carrier, since the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower of the US Navy has gone to the Red Sea, hoping for a replacement from Queen Elizabeth.
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  1. +8
    6 February 2024 23: 28
    God Rogue marks.
    Keep it up, Queen Elizabeth!
    1. 0
      7 February 2024 00: 59
      Well, they don’t want British wars...
      1. +3
        7 February 2024 08: 08
        There were rumors that there was not enough money for construction, the workers were underpaid and they took revenge with quality. Or maybe karma is just catching up with the English people. Their king has fallen ill with cancer, the economy is a mess, and their ambitions are off the charts. In any case, this is definitely no worse for us.
        This year we promise to return Kuznetsov and Nakhimov to service. I’d like to take a look at the Nakhimov’s superstructures, what kind of radar complex they wrote for it.
        1. +2
          7 February 2024 18: 25
          Quote: bayard
          I’d like to take a look at the Nakhimov’s superstructures, what kind of radar complex they wrote for it.

          I'm waiting for Frigate with Boletus. RLC "Forum".
          1. +2
            7 February 2024 19: 12
            I'm interested in how it will be executed architecturally and whether I got it right.
  2. -2
    6 February 2024 23: 29
    The problem is common - the poor quality of English products, poor quality control in production, associated with the dominance of trade unions.
    This is also noticeable in civilian industries: automobile manufacturing, shipbuilding, machine tool manufacturing.
    1. +8
      7 February 2024 00: 00
      The problem is common - the poor quality of English products, poor quality control in production, associated with the dominance of trade unions.

      And how, I wonder, do trade unions interfere with product quality control? lol
      1. -7
        7 February 2024 00: 11
        It’s very simple: workers cannot be fired. And they begin to work carelessly, somehow
        1. +3
          7 February 2024 01: 37
          Or maybe you just need to hire qualified workers.

          And not according to the liberal agenda to recruit highly qualified, constantly oppressed, dark-skinned homosexuals and other LGBT-concerned people.
          By the way, how to find LGBT trade unions. wassat
        2. +1
          7 February 2024 07: 51
          workers cannot be fired. And they begin to work carelessly, somehow

          If a worker makes a defect, the Quality Control Department does not accept it and, accordingly, does not pay for it. You can deduct for damaged material. Conduct recertification and transfer to low-paid work.
        3. +2
          7 February 2024 10: 57
          Of course it's better if you work well, but you get fired
      2. -2
        7 February 2024 04: 10
        Quote: Hwostatij
        And how, I wonder, do trade unions interfere with product quality control?

        Interfering with the technological process
    2. 0
      7 February 2024 00: 28
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The problem is common -

      Petrov and Boshirov.
    3. +5
      7 February 2024 01: 32
      The “arrogant Saxons” were also hit by problems in the aircraft industry. Boeing traded the quality of its aircraft for the pursuit of money and incomprehensible production principles.
  3. +10
    7 February 2024 00: 23
    I was interested in the problems of the shaft lines of English aircraft carriers, I am not a shipbuilder or a second engineer, but London seems to have problems in shipbuilding. It turns out that the shaft lines must be at strictly specified angles relative to each other. And do not forget, a warship is very different from a civilian one in the location of the MKO. If a ship has more than one propeller, it may have two MKOs spaced tens of meters apart. As the websites write, the shaft line of one of the MKOs can be 100 meters, I can imagine what the shaft support bearings look like - they probably weigh tons and I can’t imagine the thrust bearing and coupling connecting the gas turbine and the gearbox, which transmits torque to the shaft. On our trawler, two main engines transmitted torque through the gearbox to a shaft line with a diameter of about 0,5 meters (and this is not a pipe, but a forged round “blank”) 20 meters long.
    1. +10
      7 February 2024 00: 41
      This is what the foundation looks like for the shaft line support bearing for the icebreaker project 22220 Chukotka - weight 25 tons (and this is half in the photo). And Chukotka has four of them.
    2. +5
      7 February 2024 00: 41
      And Chukotka has four of them. The thrust bearing is a secret.
      1. +2
        7 February 2024 01: 02
        I understood everything: the Britons will never repair aircraft carriers. wink
        1. +5
          7 February 2024 01: 19
          Alexander hi If they messed up during construction, then the aircraft carriers are easier to write off. The history of the construction of these aircraft carriers is very interesting, the British themselves say that this is a “bribe” for the Scots before the referendum. I read the comments, they are banned everywhere, except for the Guardian.
          1. +7
            7 February 2024 01: 24
            If the alignment of the shaft lines is disrupted, then English aircraft carriers can drive straight, but this is an art. The Tirpitz curse has overtaken England.
    3. +2
      7 February 2024 02: 34
      at strictly specified angles relative to each other

      And any bending moments on the side of the body, how do they need to be compensated? How is this done, if the 20m shaft is a solid blank, this is my mother, what is the lateral moment on the bearings?
  4. -3
    7 February 2024 00: 43
    I am still tormented by the question - if the Americans have so many military bases around, why not seize the bridges and the telegraph at once?
    There is only one answer!
    Americans are not reptilians, they are terrestrials.
    With all the shortcomings.
  5. +1
    7 February 2024 00: 49
    AUG without aircraft carriers

    Author, how is this even possible? If there is no aircraft carrier, then there is no AUG.

    Currently, the AUG in the Mediterranean Sea is virtually left without an aircraft carrier, since the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower of the US Navy has gone to the Red Sea

    How do you imagine an aircraft carrier that roams the seas and oceans without escort?

    hoping for a replacement from Queen Elizabeth

    Each aircraft carrier has a bunch of guard ships in its marching order, without which it will not take a “step” anywhere.

    If Eisenhower leaves the Mediterranean, he will leave with his guards.
    What kind of AUG without an aircraft carrier can we talk about then?

    Here, for example, is the marching order of the 9th AUG of the US Navy with the aircraft carrier Lincoln and escort ships.
  6. 0
    7 February 2024 01: 04
    The miner on duty is not asleep. laughing
    1. -2
      7 February 2024 01: 33
      Quote: alystan
      The miner on duty is not asleep. laughing

      On this site, the personalities of the person who put a minus to the minus person are not available.
  7. +1
    7 February 2024 01: 52
    problem with them is they were built in France
    the French hate the Brits
    so built in problems just for the fun of it
    1. 0
      7 February 2024 01: 58
      SUKRAM. hi I don’t understand your humor, were English aircraft carriers built in Saint-Nazaire? Or in Scotland. Or did French shipbuilders take part in the construction of English aircraft carriers?
      1. 0
        7 February 2024 07: 10
        hello Tralflot, i should have said, the carriers were built in places all over the uk , and parts built in france, thales was the main contractor along with their uk based operation all the ships built in sections, and then assembled in scotland at rosyth

        uk gov did,nt like to tell the public that French companies were involved as unemployment in uk yards / industry was very depressed, so giving work to the French was not to be talked about, infact you will find very little,bar the name thales group, formally thomsn cfs, they did most of the electric structures and electronics

        but the humor bit, is that the French and the English dont see things the same
        1. 0
          7 February 2024 09: 06
          SUKRAM. Thank you for explaining some of the nuances. It was very interesting to hear the Frenchman’s point of view. hi
          1. 0
            7 February 2024 20: 25
            De Gaulle has a lot of problems with propellers and vibrations. hi
  8. +1
    7 February 2024 03: 31
    All that remains of the great sea power!!! History has billed!!! - you have to pay for everything.
    1. +5
      7 February 2024 04: 11
      Quote: tolmachiev51
      All that remains of the great sea power

      It would be better if there was nothing left of her at all wink
  9. +2
    7 February 2024 08: 07
    What's wrong with the British Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carriers?

    As the experience of operating British aircraft carriers shows, not everything is a ship that does not sink.
  10. 0
    7 February 2024 11: 06
    Not all is well in the kingdom of England. Aircraft carriers are out of repair, D-class destroyers are only now being retrofitted with anti-ship missiles, Duke type frigates (Norfolk) are being taken out of service due to a lack of trained crews, nuclear submarines cost more to repair, and SSBNs have problems with missile launchers.....