“Scrap metal is possible”: The President of Ecuador confirmed the transfer of Soviet equipment to the United States, despite a warning from Russia

Ecuador will transfer old Soviet equipment to the United States, despite Russian warnings against such action. This was stated by the country's President Daniel Noboa.

In an interview with the Ecuavisa TV channel, the Ecuadorian leader said that Russia imposed a ban on the transfer to other countries of Soviet equipment in service with the Ecuadorian army, but the authorities found a way out. According to Noboa, the ban applies only to military equipment, but not to scrap metal. And since all the equipment has long been turned into scrap metal, it will be sent to the USA.

Delivery will be made. They refer to the fact that this is military equipment. We proved that it was scrap metal. Within the framework of international agreements, military equipment cannot be transferred, but such scrap metal can be

- Noboa said, adding that Moscow did not take a completely “adequate position” and could meet Ecuador halfway, since they are experiencing “large-scale unrest.”

Earlier it was reported that the Ecuadorian authorities are ready to transfer old Soviet military equipment to the Americans, presumably for subsequent deliveries to Ukraine. In exchange, Ecuador was promised “modern weapons” worth $200 million. Russia warned against such actions, but 200 million still prevailed.

According to open sources, the Ecuadorian army is armed with several Mi-17 helicopters, Soviet Grad MLRS and Czechoslovakian RM-70 analogues, Osa air defense systems, Igla and ZU-23 MANPADS, and RPG-7 grenade launchers. It is not known what of this will be transferred to the Americans.

Comments

[Cananecat]

One question...what modern thing can you put on for $200 million?

[Lev_Russia]

Moscow has taken a not entirely “adequate position” and could meet Ecuador halfway, since they are experiencing “large-scale unrest.”

For some reason, it seems to me that the unrest will soon become even more widespread, and Daniel Noboa has very little time left to be president...

[comings]

Rather, he understands perfectly well who and why is fueling these riots. And Russia's refusal of their bananas is the least of his troubles.

[Aken]

Russia did not refuse bananas. The English kicked Russia out of the banana market.

[Shkodnik65]

The British kicked Russia out of the banana market.
But I’m wondering how you can kick someone out of the banana market

[former soldier]

Russia did not give up bananas. The British kicked Russia out of the banana market.

I don’t know who kicked whom out where, but yellow bananas in cardboard boxes are sold in stores as before. Price approximately 130 rubles/kg. Maybe these are our Siberian ones. I don't understand agriculture.

[realist]

I’m sitting eating a banana, judging by the sticker it’s Ecuadorian. in Russia the population is 140 million, in the world the population is more than 7 billion, it turns out that Russians in the banana consumption market are less than 2%. This is a very small share

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Lev_Russia

For some reason, it seems to me that the unrest will soon become even more widespread, and Daniel Noboa has very little time left to be president...

But it seems to me that everything will end with our Foreign Ministry expressing extreme concern. Because the whole world is accustomed to precisely this reaction from Moscow. And that’s why he means these “expressions of concern.”

[grindz]

This Noboa is from a family of banana kings. They grew up by exporting bananas at one time. We need to start with a ban on the export of bananas and other fruits. It’s better to buy from Venezuela or Brazil. I think there's a lot of this stuff there.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Canecat

One question...what modern thing can you put on for $200 million?

Everything that the USA does not need, with a 50-year service life. For Ecuador then...

[Vladimir_2U]

Are Ecuadorian bananas considered garbage? No, the helicopters are scrap metal, and the bananas are just that. Ecuadorian ones definitely don’t grow anywhere else in the world, or what?

[Aken]

They grow, how could they not grow. Only much more expensive.
Just recently, banana was the cheapest fruit in Russia. Now there is no.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote from Aken

They grow, how not to grow. Only much more expensive.

What, really strong? I doubt that India, China, Brazil, the Philippines, Indonesia will not be able to compensate for half a million tons per year, if they tell the Ecuadorians to hell without raising the price too much.

[Aken]

They compensate. Already compensated. But more expensive.
The average retail price for bananas in Russia at the end of October increased to 143,3 rubles per 1 kg, which is 47% more than in October 2022, follows from Rosstat data, which RBC drew attention to. Source: AP 2023 The indicator, as noted, has reached its maximum value in the entire history of observations since 2000.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote from Aken

They compensate. Already compensated. But more expensive.

So it EVERYTHING has gone up in price, basically. And yet, the price has risen to the point of a hypothetical, but desirable, refusal of Ecuadorian bananas. But once again, competition in this market is noticeable, so a specific refusal will not lead to a noticeable increase in price.

[Aken]

The British got busy transporting bananas and threw our merchants out of business. There are leftovers.
So there was no desired refusal. Ecuadorians did not notice the redistribution of flows.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote from Aken

The British got busy transporting bananas and threw our merchants out of business. There are leftovers.

Banana trucks can be a problem, but I don't think they're all English.

Quote from Aken

Ecuadorians did not notice the redistribution of flows.

What are you about?! What redistribution? Refusal is not redistribution. In addition, there has not yet been a failure, I hope so far.

[Aken]

There was no refusal. I've already written it three times. The British intercepted the transportation. There will be no more cheap bananas in Russia.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote from Aken

There was no refusal. I've already written it three times. The British intercepted the transportation. There will be no more cheap bananas in Russia.

I don’t understand, transportation and delivery are not the same thing. Those. do you want to say that no one supplies Ecuadorian bananas to Russia ALREADY? What have I eaten just now?

[Aken]

They supply crumbs. The rest is obtained in other places and at a different price. Hence the rise in price. Yesterday I bought non-Ecuadorian ones.

[realist]

The Americans have always had banana trucks! very unique transport, high-speed refrigerator.

[lukash66]

Quote from Aken

They compensate. Already compensated. But more expensive.
The average retail price for bananas in Russia at the end of October increased to 143,3 rubles per 1 kg, which is 47% more than in October 2022, follows from Rosstat data, which RBC drew attention to. Source: AP 2023 The indicator, as noted, has reached its maximum value in the entire history of observations since 2000.

Do you personally eat these bananas from morning to night? Why are these bananas so hard on you? We lived without them in Soviet times and now we’ll survive like a thread.))

[Stinging Nettle]

Do you personally eat these bananas from morning to night? Why are these bananas so hard on you? We lived without them in Soviet times and now we’ll survive like a thread.))

I don’t want to live like in Soviet times in terms of bananas. Then the whole country suffered from banana withdrawal.
Well, the children of the elite did not show off in Dubai back then.

[lukash66]

So, as far as I know, you live in Israel. Are you also having trouble with bananas?

[Stinging Nettle]

So, as far as I know, you live in Israel.

Where does infa come from?
Is all your knowledge about life as correct?

[lukash66]

Quote: Stinging_Nettle

So, as far as I know, you live in Israel.

Where does infa come from?
Is all your knowledge about life as correct?

Judging by the way you trample on God's chosen ones. Am I wrong? Guilty. Then probably the Jewish Autonomous Region, Birobidzhan? )) By the way, bananas are strictly forbidden for me, I have diabetes. So I'm calm. And even the granddaughter is completely indifferent to them.

[Cananecat]

Quote: Mavrikiy

For Ecuador then...

Banana cultivators? )

[Yaro Polk]

25 Abrash... without all the body kits and electronics... well, or 40 Bradley of some kind)
For that, we will have a fight with Russia forever)

[Cananecat]

Quote: Yaro Polk

25 abrash..without all body kits

And there is no doubt that ammunition, consumables, crew training, and a guarantee will also contribute to this 200 million... so after all the calculations, the same Abrash will be enough for a company at most.

[Aken]

They are more interested in firearms and ammunition.

[23ronin]

The trouble is that we are playing on the field of pin@os, they rule the roost there in South America. All governments...with few exceptions are fed there. And we...well, we expressed dissatisfaction...people got accustomed to bananas, we bought them the same way we bought them....

[rotmistr60]

And these coveted the 200 million promised by the United States.

Within the framework of international agreements, military equipment cannot be transferred, but such scrap metal can be

Noboa is disingenuous (lying godlessly), because... understands perfectly well that the equipment will eventually end up in Ukraine and will fight against Russian troops. There are only corrupt bastards all around.

[Asad]

Now it’s clear why bananas cost 160! Politics though!

[cast iron]

Ecuador and England are also apparently to blame for the increase in the price of eggs... EdRo alone is not "innocent" in anything. Inflation is already like in the blessed year of 1998 under the drunk EBN.

[Nastia makarova]

fight? Why do they need such metal? for spare parts if only

[Graz]

All such countries must be warned that for the transfer of Soviet and Russian weapons to third countries without the approval of the Russian Federation, their countries will have an eternal ban on the purchase of Russian weapons in future times

[Revolver]

Quote: Graz

their countries will have a permanent ban

These Latinos are always on a seesaw, they will elect an anti-American president, then a pro-American one. The seesaw will swing back, a new left-wing president/prime minister/dictator will ask for help for a small but proud country in the matter of protection from the bad gringos, and they will get Russian equipment, and even on credit. And then a right-wing president/prime minister/dictator will come again, and a new turn of the spiral will begin.

[AdAstra]

In a word - many, many wild monkeys (four words).

[Siberia55]

The more such a ban, the sweeter life will be for the US military-industrial complex
We need other ways to influence

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Siberia55

The more such a ban, the sweeter life will be for the US military-industrial complex

like China and many others

[Stinging Nettle]

All such countries must be warned that for the transfer of Soviet and Russian weapons to third countries without the approval of the Russian Federation, their countries will have an eternal ban on the purchase of Russian weapons in future times

What Russian weapons exactly?

[Blanket]

In exchange, Ecuador was promised $200 million worth of “modern weapons.”

I am more than sure that in addition to these 200 million $$, something falls into the secret accounts of those who authorized the transfer (and about the Greeks who did the same recently)

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: Pike

I am more than sure that besides these 200 million $$ something falls into secret accounts

“More than sure” is already “I know.” Are you a secret accountant?

[Dutchman Michel]

Quote: Pike

I am more than sure that in addition to these 200 million $$ something falls into the secret accounts of those who authorized the transfer

Well, this is common practice

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Pike

In exchange, Ecuador was promised $200 million worth of “modern weapons.”

I am more than sure that in addition to these 200 million $$, something falls into the secret accounts of those who authorized the transfer (and about the Greeks who did the same recently)

The Greeks are still on the fence and, unlike the Ecuadorians, have not yet taken the bait for these $200 million “beads”, because they see Erdogan’s mustache sticking out in the direction of Cyprus, but most likely the mattresses will also sell them if the amount of compensation is increased.

[Blanket]

Greek media have disseminated information that the country's Ministry of Defense has been given an order to prepare military equipment “that the Greek army no longer uses” in the amount of $200 million to be sent to Ukraine. In return, Greece will receive from the United States a fairly impressive amount of equipment “completely free of charge.” This information was disseminated by the Greek portal Kathimerini, citing a letter from US Secretary of State Antony Blinken to Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis.
...
But for now, the point is, according to the information of the Greek deputy and leader of the Hellenic Foxes party Kyriakos Velopoulos, trucks with Ukrainian license plates are transporting weapons from the warehouses of the Greek army. Presumably shells. In just one day, according to the Greek politician, 17 Ukrainian trucks left the ammunition depots in Kekhrie.

In just one day, 17 trucks...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Pike

In just one day 17 trucks...

This is new information, thank you.
This means that the shells crushed the Greeks’ mattresses.
Only the 200 million dollars in question were offered mattresses to the Greeks for Russian used equipment, MLRS + air defense systems.

[rocket757]

States have no friends, only interests!
And this is not even cynical, it is how it is and this must always be taken into account.

[Egoza]

Quote: rocket757

States have no friends, only interests!

But the President of Ecuador personally also got “something” into his pocket.

[rocket757]

Everything is standard, it’s already happening according to the same scenario.

[Mavrikiy]

Within the framework of international agreements, military equipment cannot be transferred, but such scrap metal can be

Here's a dog! Sets a precedent. Although the scrap metal is worth 200 lyams, that’s tons, so under
200, no? It was a long time ago, I don’t know the prices.

[Revolver]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Sets a precedent.

This means that the next supply agreement should have a clause stating that scrap metal can only be transferred to Russian recycling companies for a fixed price. Because it's a precedent.

[Viktor Sergeev]

I wonder if this modern junk is from the USA?

[75 Sergey]

Well, since this is scrap metal, maybe we can send our specialists with a cutter?
And for us a lesson on selling/transferring good weapons for pennies.
Armaments must include wear parts and electronics with a closed architecture in order to bind the buyer in the most difficult way.

[Irek]

Look, then don’t cry, “What are we for?”

[svp67]

"Scrap metal is possible"

Well then, “roses, bananas and coffee” NEZYA...

Moscow has taken a not entirely “adequate position” and could meet Ecuador halfway, since they are experiencing “large-scale unrest.”

Well, yes...another one... "brotherly people"

[Novonur]

In response, we simply need to organize a Maidan in Ecuador and put all the Western politicians and elite that support them under the knife, bring the Russian regime to power, equip a military base with nuclear weapons in case of an attack by neighbors and the Anglo-Saxons. This is the only way to respond. Aggression is answered only with aggression, other options are only shame and humiliation, time has shown that the Anglo-Saxons understand only force, all the rest are weakness and cowardice for them

[asng]

Yes, good old KGB practice. And the KGB, as far as I know, was the most respected security agency in the world. As the USSR collapsed and the KGB was destroyed, they began to outmaneuver us. And specialists in this field are trained in five years, if there are teachers. And we also lost teachers.

[restless]

The entire KGB moved to England with the CPSU cash register, the entire perestroika with Gorbaty (may the earth be glass wool to him), the KGB pulled it off, they need to be discussed together with Gorbaty and the alcoholic spruce and his centers should be transferred to children's creativity, at least there will be some benefit, otherwise these centers in the country breed traitors and foreign agents, Solzhenitsyn is their icon, there is only one liberal sitting there with their sodomite values...

[Stinging Nettle]

You just need to respond by organizing a Maidan in Ecuador and all the pro-Western politicians and the elite that support under the knife, bring the pro-Russian regime to power, equip a military base with nuclear weapons in the event of an attack by neighbors and the Anglo-Saxons.

I am sure that our Kadyrovites, as well as ordinary security forces, would cope with such a task with dignity if the President set it, because they know how to not only beat unarmed people.
However, wouldn't this be a violation of international law?

[75 Sergey]

Here is a list of what Ecuador has,
https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/en-ru.ru.7749059c-65b9d445-bd901bd2-74722d776562/https/en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Ecuadorian_Army

[uralex]

Russia imposed a ban

Here again some cloud prohibitions... This does not work on our partners!!! The Americans specifically indicated that they will provide weapons for $200 million, and what did ours compare this proposal with, except for the prohibition? Here either there must be tangible threats, or a comparable "carrot"...

[Earl]

With the first cunning country that decided to supply weapons to the combat zone, it was necessary to at least break off diplomatic relations, and not throw around moronic threats and concerns. Look, now all sorts of Ecuadors and Kuwait would behave differently.

[asng]

With our liberals who proclaimed “we will buy everything with gas and oil,” we have sat too deeply on the Western needle: robotic technology, automatic lines, electronics, semi-finished products, household appliances... It’s simply impossible to cut everything off at one point - it will cost you more. Now we need to realize the situation and gradually get off this needle within five years. There seems to be progress.

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote from asng

Now we need to realize the situation... get off this needle

Correct, but "a little" late proposal. The import substitution program of the Russian Federation Decree dated April 15.042014, 328, number 330, has long since entered into legal force. According to it, a budget of 2022 billion rubles should be allocated annually for the implementation of approved plans. By October 1,5, the regulations already included about XNUMX thousand launched projects. I will be glad if this makes you any happier.

[Stinging Nettle]

Look, now all sorts of Ecuadors and Kuwait would behave differently.

And the families of our elite would vacation not in Courchevel, Biarritz and Dubai, but in a village near Moscow.

[Luenkov]

We need to meet Ecuador and remove the idiots in power there.

[VLAD-96]

Why don’t we act symmetrically?
Why don't we supply the Houthis with MANPADS, Gerani Lancets and other useful things?
We need to deliver urgently! (just so that NATO intelligence doesn’t burn it down)
They are now the only specific motivated guys who can give the Yankees a beating in a direct confrontation!
Otherwise, the mattress covers have become seriously loose, and we, with our spreaders, keep pulling and pulling the cat by the tail.

[AdAstra]

Have you ever thought that the Houthis, despite all their “fiery statements,” are also very fond of green pieces of paper called dollars and MANPADS/Geraniums/Lancets can easily and unforcedly affect VN?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote from AdAstra

Have you ever thought that the Houthis, despite all their “fiery statements,” are also very fond of green pieces of paper called dollars and MANPADS/Geraniums/Lancets can easily and unforcedly affect Vn?

This is doubtful.
They don’t have mansions and Mercedes because their motivation is different, and therefore with the “extra dollars” they would rather buy weapons for themselves than sell them to others.

[VLAD-96]

Yes, practice shows that NOBODY is immune from this, and even written contracts are not respected in certain situations.. Today they are friends, but tomorrow they are just “partners” or even enemies..
Then provide export options (simplified versions of weapons).
Or give them captured weapons - NATO weapons squeezed from the pan-heads.
Although it probably isn’t available in such quantities as is needed for the normal defense of the Houthis...
If there is a desire, we can come up with options.

[Corvair]

Export versions of weapons seem to be reduced in capabilities.

[restless]

You think we have a lot of them, they are collected by hand and there are very few of them in the Northern Military District, but you still want to help someone else, the industry needs to be revived, destroyed by Chubais and other liberals, to provide for our army to begin with, and then think about help...

[Shumi2010]

well... bananas from Ecuador are now a waste

[odometer]

Quote: VLAD-96

Why don’t we supply the Houthis with air defense MANPADS and Geranium Lancets and other useful things?

We don't have enough...

[AdAstra]

Why does he do this? But because the Russian Federation, as the SGA, cannot punish him for this in any way.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote from AdAstra

Why does he do this? But because the Russian Federation, as the SGA, cannot punish him for this in any way.

It depends on how you look. Russia's trade turnover with Ecuador is around 2 billion dollars a year. The largest group of imports from Ecuador is fruits, nuts and other agricultural products (more than 1 billion per year). As for me, we can do without their fruits and nuts, but their agricultural producer, having lost the long-term market by 1 billion dollars (annually), in exchange for 200 million dollars (one-time) can take to the streets with hoes and pitchforks , to give President Noboa a little boost.

[23ronin]

As long as the dollar rules in international relations, everyone will have problems and Ecuador is no exception. If Putin and Xi can move it with joint and coordinated efforts, say by offering the world some alternative... the gold equivalent, for example, so to speak... the hegemon will collapse. Maybe not right away, people's thinking is inertial, as are hopes. IMHO.

[asng]

Question for the experts. Let's say we supplied military equipment to some friendly country. The government in this country changes and the country declares war on us. Will we be able to easily detect and destroy this equipment? In other words, is there a practice of introducing devices into military equipment supplied abroad that allow, at a minimum, the manufacturer to detect and destroy this equipment?

[Ivan№One]

don't buy bananas from these scoundrels

[Yaroslav the Wise]

Quote: Canecat

One question...what modern thing can you put on for $200 million?

Machine guns and pistols! Ammo for them. And a couple of old, rusty Hummers. And that's it!!!

[Fangaro]

Was there a lengthy article about this Ecuadorian on Kommersant?
He defeated all the bandits, built a new prison, allowed himself to be elected... The population is delighted with the democratic-totalitarian government.
Or am I confusing you with someone else from Latin America?

[Garry]

Are we friends with Peru or Colombia?

[Oleg Telpes]

bananas have become more expensive all over the world, unfortunately, like everything else

[Pravodel]

The President of Ecuador confirmed the transfer of Soviet equipment to the United States, despite a warning from Russia

Here is Ecuador. Before this, Greece also transfers everything it can. So it turns out that the USSR supplied its own friends/enemies with weapons. Maybe it’s better for Russia to supply weapons to the Houthis and Yemenis!?... Then we’ll see who is giving weapons to whom...

[bug120560]

I read the comments and am simply surprised by the reaction. Ecuador hands over weapons under the guise of scrap metal. It may be old, but the weapon will end up in Ukraine. A weapon is always a weapon capable of killing. Even after a hundred years. And we are talking about bananas.

[cast iron]

The article says that of the Soviet equipment, only the Grad MLRS is in Ecuador's arsenal. Probably a shaggy year. Neither the Mi-17 nor the Czechoslovakian weapons have anything to do with the Soviet ones. We are probably talking about the transfer of helicopters. It seems expensive to maintain them. And the United States offered to replace it with more recent black hawks.

[El13]

...bananas... turned out to be contagious