“We were already waiting for them”: a Ukrainian prisoner of war spoke about surrendering to the Russian Armed Forces in Avdeevka

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“We were already waiting for them”: a Ukrainian prisoner of war spoke about surrendering to the Russian Armed Forces in Avdeevka

An increasing number of Ukrainian military personnel are surrendering to the Russian army, realizing that this is sometimes the only chance to survive. A serviceman of the assault unit of the 71st separate Jaeger brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Vyacheslav Grinenko, surrendered in Avdeevka, which is now being liberated by Russian troops.

According to the prisoner of war, before the positions of his formation were occupied by Russian troops, and he himself was captured, he and his fellow soldiers crawled under fire for thirty hours on the front line. The commanders did not allow us to withdraw from our positions and did not send help.



Despair set in. We were already waiting for them. The guys came in. We stood, talked, and told that we were Ukrainians. We were immediately told not to worry, no one would use force

- leads TASS the words of a prisoner of war.

As it turned out, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine abandoned its own soldiers without fire support, food and water in their positions. The attack aircraft of the Jaeger brigade had only machine guns; the ammunition ran out after four hours of battle.

Grinenko himself believes that he and his fellow soldiers were saved from certain death by their capture by the Russian military. In captivity, according to the Ukrainian prisoner of war, he is treated normally, fed, and not insulted. The agency’s interlocutor noted that life in the Ukrainian military registration and enlistment office was no better - in the basement of the territorial recruitment center. Half of the unit in which the prisoner of war served was destroyed during the fighting in Avdievka, and very quickly.
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  1. +8
    27 January 2024 13: 36
    All prisoners are put through a lie detector and there according to the results!
    1. +20
      27 January 2024 13: 45
      These are Ukrainians. Even without a detector, it is clear that they are lying.
      1. IVZ
        +16
        27 January 2024 13: 57
        Well, we fought for 4 hours and surrendered when the cartridges ran out. Where is the lie here? Just a puncture.
      2. +1
        27 January 2024 15: 59
        In captivity, according to the Ukrainian prisoner of war, he is treated normally, fed, and not insulted.

        As I understand it, they almost live in a sanatorium, with 4 meals a day, a jacuzzi and peace. It’s somehow wrong, their content needs to be corrected and simplified.
    2. 0
      27 January 2024 13: 48
      The polygraph is easy to use if you have received some training. When I got a job at the State Center for Social Sciences not so long ago. They asked me for fun, because... he immediately said where it was and warned that it was useless. So, according to him, I say 50/50 clearly lol and even when I tell the truth, he showed that he was not....
      1. +2
        27 January 2024 15: 42
        Quote from Enceladus
        The polygraph is easy to use if you have received some training.

        It depends on what the purpose of the polygraph is. There are situations when you don’t answer at all, and they just show you pictures. And it works much better than the answers. Well, a lot depends on the questions, on the order in which these questions go.
        1. 0
          27 January 2024 15: 48
          Literally yesterday I passed and 3 years ago (I wrote above) I got a job at the State Center for Social Sciences... and they also checked with “pictures”. Even a sudden question that they know 100% what is true.... the polygraph said don’t lie to him. After that they gave up. But of course it was ugly on their part... I could hardly restrain myself.
    3. +7
      27 January 2024 13: 58
      All prisoners through a lie detector...

      Not only through a lie detector - a polygraph according to a scientist, but also filtering like during the Second World War. After that - everyone gets their earrings: punishers, looters, ukronatsik - a noose and a tower, the rest - also according to their deserts.
      Unfortunately, we have a moratorium on the death penalty for bastards...
    4. NW
      +7
      27 January 2024 13: 58
      What to detect? Do they love Russians? All this doesn't matter anymore. Everyone to the construction site until the end of the company. For violating the detention regime, increase the sentence. However, we were told about the “mass surrender” of farmers into captivity from the first day. In fact, local military victories with the current situation in terms of numbers will not be enough. We need far-sighted political projects involving loyal Little Russians.
    5. +3
      27 January 2024 14: 02
      You can also organize God's judgment: throw them into an ice hole, if they drown, they told the truth, if not, they lie. Then, too, drown for giving false testimony. There is no difference with a lie detector, because the Shaitan machine cannot show anything intelligible in principle. But a machine language interpreter, who is also a polygraph examiner, will tell you a lot of interesting things, well, if you are interested financially or otherwise.
      For this reason, the Supreme Court of Russia equated polygraphic research with shamanism.
      But it's fun.
      1. 0
        27 January 2024 15: 27
        Quote: hhurik
        You can also organize God's judgment: throw them into an ice hole, if they drown, they told the truth, if not, they lie.

        It won’t work, these are, so to speak, the life-giving methods of the Holy Inquisition. Catholics, what can we take from them... We are multi-confessional, this does not suit us. Now, if only you sit on a barrel of gunpowder, as Ivan Vasilyevich recommended... laughing laughing
    6. +2
      27 January 2024 14: 05
      Quote: Argon
      All prisoners are put through a lie detector and there according to the results!

      These are Ukrainians!!! Any polygraph fails after the first 4 questions. Even with Jews, it just starts to glitch on question 8!!! good good good
      1. +2
        27 January 2024 14: 23
        Quote: Fitter65
        Even with Jews, it just starts to glitch on question 8!!!

        And what? The polygraph cannot answer all the questions the Jews ask him after his questions?
        1. +2
          27 January 2024 14: 27
          Quote: Egoza
          And what? The polygraph cannot answer all the questions the Jews ask him after his questions?

          So he, the polygrapher, is slightly surprised when they answer his question with a question. Still, it feels like the device was invented overseas, and not in Russia. laughing laughing laughing
  2. +1
    27 January 2024 13: 45
    “An increasing number of Ukrainian military personnel are surrendering to the Russian army, realizing that this is sometimes the only chance to survive” -

    ***
    “But their “Batkivshchyna” is trying to deprive them of this chance in an exchange...
    ***
  3. +8
    27 January 2024 13: 49
    But the cartridges ran out, which means they were used. They didn't launch fireworks into the sky. Such prisoners should be sent to the construction of the BAM for 20 years. Or some kind of canal should be dug.
    1. +3
      27 January 2024 13: 54
      before the exchange - send to the analysis of ruins in destroyed cities, then determine either the deadline or the exchange
    2. -2
      27 January 2024 14: 53
      It’s almost like a club for people who ran out of cartridges, it’s written that they were waiting for someone to come in to change it back
  4. +3
    27 January 2024 13: 53
    the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine abandoned its own soldiers without fire support, food and water in positions
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine strives for NATO standards, therefore sergeants command the units, and officers in the rear are on the “dashing horse” and, as far as possible, away from the front line.
  5. +10
    27 January 2024 14: 00
    They surrender because there are no cartridges, the command abandoned them, there is no food, no water, no strength... and not a word of repentance, awareness of their own wrongness... If it were different, they would tear the Russians apart with all the passion, pleasure and superiority of the Obermenschi over the Untermenschi... here what is the zagagulina felt in all these captive interviews!
    1. +7
      27 January 2024 14: 09
      In 4 hours of battle, out of the spent cartridges, how many were killed on the spot and maimed? Guess who was shot point blank?
      Now “the guys have come in, we are Ukrainians...”
      1. -2
        27 January 2024 14: 55
        What, you don’t like that they’re giving up?
        1. +7
          27 January 2024 15: 41
          This is not called “surrender,” but “exhausted and captured in battle.” Surrender is when, with weapons and ammo, you decided to give up and did not fight until you lost your combat capability.
          1. 0
            27 January 2024 20: 50
            Quote: ankir13
            This is not called “surrender,” but “exhausted and captured in battle.” Surrender is when, with weapons and ammo, you decided to give up and did not fight until you lost your combat capability.

            where did you get this?
            “he and his colleagues crawled under fire on the front line for thirty hours. The commanders did not allow them to withdraw from their positions, they did not send help.”
            IMHO he doesn’t talk about this, they weren’t stormed and entered, but (as I understand it) they entered without an assault after being covered with artillery
    2. +1
      27 January 2024 17: 53
      But they can be understood as victims of propaganda. Do you remember how the image of Russians was promoted in Ukraine? We (even though I’m not Russian) are orcs for them. We started this war, like, and didn’t let us breathe all our lives, and then the EU called, showed us the carrot....
  6. +2
    27 January 2024 18: 07
    You can’t trust rubbish, especially in the Avdeevsky direction, they have hundreds of lives on their conscience.
  7. +1
    27 January 2024 18: 25
    Yeah, they were just sitting and waiting for someone to surrender, in captivity, they’re all like that
  8. +2
    27 January 2024 22: 08
    And if the commanders hadn’t supposedly abandoned and brought the cartridges, then they would have continued to destroy the Russians!!
  9. 0
    28 January 2024 12: 14
    Our guys came in kindly, which means there were no losses.
  10. 0
    28 January 2024 20: 43
    After 4 hours of battle, the cartridges ran out! - who were they waiting for, storytellers?! It was necessary to bang en masse, whoever had empty horns!
  11. 0
    29 January 2024 01: 09
    35 Ukrainian prisoners per week at 1000 km lbs. not much.... apparently, there is no point in expecting a spiritual break in the Ukrainian army in principle.... which Russian military officers cheerfully assured us and continue to assure us. If Trump doesn’t help, we’ll have to re-mobilize.
  12. 0
    13 February 2024 11: 10
    The leading photo is a little off topic. There are no prisoners there. The artillery officer sets the main direction of the guns. Device PAB-2. Simple, universal, reliable, accurate thing.