Supplies of China Tu-22М3 bombers are unlikely


INTERFAX-AVN - Information from a number of media outlets that Russia can ship a batch of Tu-22М3 long-range bombers to China seems doubtful, Vasily Kashin, an expert at the Center for Strategy and Technology Analysis, told Interfax-AVN on Wednesday.

“At present, the delivery of new Tu-22М3 bombers to China, reported by the media, is hardly physically possible. Production of these aircraft was discontinued in 1993 and was no longer resumed. Nor are the NK-25 engines installed on this aircraft. The resumption of production of these aircraft after a break in 20 years, if it is technically possible at all, will require huge investments and many years of hard work, ”said V. Kashin.

So he commented on the information of a number of media that China can buy 36 Tu-22М3 in Russia for $ 1,5 billion.

“Rumors about the sale of Tu-22М3 bomber by Russia to China appear on the Chinese Internet and Western media regularly over the past 10 years. As far as we know, China has previously shown interest in these aircraft, but negotiations did not lead to a result, ”said V. Kashin.

According to him, “Russia could technically supply the Chinese only the old Tu-22М3.”

“But even in this case, significant repair and retooling works would be required for compatibility with Chinese weapons systems, communications, control, etc. And even in this case, China would have an old aircraft with old engines with very significant costs,” - said the expert.

He noted that “the project looks all the more doubtful, given that China is currently implementing a program to produce upgraded H-6K bombers, under which large-scale purchases of D-30KP2 engines in Russia are made.”

“Although the H-6K is based on an even older basic Soviet design (Tu-16), it has undergone a radical redesign, has a significantly increased range, modern cabin equipment and advanced onboard radio-electronic equipment. As a carrier of cruise missiles (which is the main function of modern bombers), it is hardly inferior to the old Soviet Tu-22М3, ”said the expert.

Earlier, an official representative of the press service and information department of the Russian Federation Ministry of Defense for the Air Force told Interfax-AVN that the Russian Air Force had 100 missile-carrying systems Tu-22М3.

“Today, the Air Force has more than 100 missile carriers Tu-22М3 in service. Until 2020, they will be upgraded to modify the Tu-22М3М around 30 units, ”he said.

Tu-22М3 aircraft participated in combat operations during the Afghan war. “Restrictedly, Tu-22М3 took part in antiterrorist operations in the North Caucasus and in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict in August 2008,” said a spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry.

In operation, the Tu-22М3 can be used with more than ten weapon variants. Moreover, the transition from one version of weapons (missile, bomber, or mixed) to another is provided in operation as soon as possible. Conducting tactical flight exercises using Tu-22М3 in various regions of the country showed that the aircraft can be operated from operational aerodromes with minimal expenditure on the preparation of equipment and weapons.

“All this makes it possible to effectively use the complex in any theater of operations, in various latitudes and climatic zones, both at the base and at the operational airfields,” the official representative of the Ministry of Defense said.

The first flight of the Tu-22М3 made 35 years ago, 20 June 1977 year. After completing the flight test program, the Tu-22М3 was launched from 1978 onwards into mass production, which was discontinued in 1993. Since 1991, under the program of small modernization of the serial Tu-22M3, a new flight navigation system and rocket control system have been introduced weapons, said the representative of the Ministry of Defense.
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  1. ShturmKGB 25 January 2013 10: 57 New
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    What a duck, why buy a plane that isn’t available? Lack of awareness? I doubt something ...
    1. older 25 January 2013 11: 03 New
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      ShturmKGB
      Some duck, why buy a plane that isn’t available

      laughing Someone really wants to scare ... Airplanes of this class are not sold to neighboring states laughing
      1. domokl 25 January 2013 11: 18 New
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        Quote: older
        .Airplanes of this class are not sold to neighboring states.
        Now they sell everything to everyone ... It's another matter that not everyone buys ... For poor countries this is not a burden, but for rich-obsolete cars ....
        1. Alexander Romanov 25 January 2013 11: 41 New
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          Quote: domokl
          Now they sell everything and everyone

          Alexander, look at this
          So he commented on the information of a number of media that China can buy 36 Tu-22М3 in Russia for $ 1,5 billion.
          and think how much such a plane costs. LAZHA 100%
          1. domokl 25 January 2013 11: 56 New
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            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            . COTTAGE 100%
            The Chinese also want to get more money out of the country's budget for military needs ... And infa is designed for those who can not think and count, paradoxically ...
            1. Alexander Romanov 25 January 2013 12: 03 New
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              Quote: domokl
              paradoxically.

              And what is the paradox?
              1. Sergh
                Sergh 25 January 2013 14: 35 New
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                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                And what is the paradox?

                Hi bro!
                Alexander, just recently, when this infa appeared, whose even to the end I was tired of reading, let alone comment. But I read all sorts of comments, partly in my soul, ho-ho-tal. I remember that you spit from this info, and I have the same opinion ..., THIS IS ALL FULL usual small stuffing, small, such a flush, of which there are a lot.
                Even my namesake was spitting from this anecdote (waf Seryoga).
                1. Alexander Romanov 25 January 2013 14: 46 New
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                  Quote: Sergh
                  just now, when this infa appeared, whose even to the end I read it wasn’t

                  Hi Sergey, here to see one more time we decided to post a topic, if only they would write a real price for request planes, otherwise it’s boring to read.
      2. s500 25 January 2013 11: 54 New
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        These are needed by ourselves, although they can suffer like ser-s!
    2. PROXOR 25 January 2013 11: 07 New
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      Even if it would be released. THIS SELLING IS IMPOSSIBLE !!!!!
    3. Bronis 25 January 2013 11: 09 New
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      Maybe politics, or maybe a desire to draw attention to certain media. And most likely, both. For the Chinese - a welcome topic, once they really wanted to buy, but did not ask. But the image of a kind of Chinese "kuz'kina mother", which the United States can answer, goes around in local Internet circles. Including, and Tu-22M.
      For the West - once again a way to show the "evil" Russia and the same (even more) "evil" China. That’s why we are going to strengthen the Pacific region with aircraft carriers. There is a threat. So far, the general public is not afraid of Chinese-made aircraft (not used to it yet), and the fear of the Soviet one is still strong, albeit at a subconscious level.
  2. older 25 January 2013 11: 02 New
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    We are not so fools ... To arm our closest friend with airplanes capable of delivering a strike far deeper into our territory .... And the Chinese are not fools either ... There are more modern models ...
    1. Uncle 25 January 2013 13: 19 New
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      Quote: older
      We are not so fools ..

      To steal is really not fools, remember Sidor Perdyukov. To steal - not to fight ...
  3. Sirocco 25 January 2013 11: 04 New
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    The question is, to whom is this duck beneficial? Since this info is pulsing in China, what is their purpose?
    1. Tersky 25 January 2013 11: 11 New
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      Quote: Sirocco
      Since this info is pulsing in China, what is their purpose?

      Yes, there is no goal, there is political masturbation ...
    2. domokl 25 January 2013 11: 20 New
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      Quote: Sirocco
      The question is, to whom is this duck beneficial?
      The Chinese are exactly the same people as everyone else ... And the military budget is always small, lacking it ... Imagine what a howl has risen there now, we feed the Russians, instead of developing our own aircraft ... laughing
  4. avt
    avt 25 January 2013 11: 05 New
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    What a duck, why buy a plane that isn’t available? Lack of awareness? I doubt something ...

    No, the Chinese simply cannot stupidly do or steal a strategist! The maximum that they have is a converted TU-16. A "brick" can not be given to them! More expensive to yourself! Well, it was not in vain that they were taken from the naval and given to strategists! Better to let the refueling rods on them restore!
    1. dmitreach 25 January 2013 11: 19 New
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      let the refueling rods on them restore !!

      I agree. nothing then they drove them under the contract! Americans are not grateful anyway. throw them and restore the refueling on the carcasses!
    2. Wedmak 25 January 2013 12: 31 New
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      Better to let the refueling rods on them restore!

      And they have a place under the bar. Putting the bar itself is a matter of hours.
      1. VAF
        VAF 25 January 2013 13: 32 New
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        And they have a place under the bar. Putting the bar itself is a matter of hours.


        Denis already wrote more than once about it .. this is wrong in the root!

        The bar could be thrust back only on deuces. and on Troika it is necessary to redo the entire fuel system and automation to it! crying

        And this process is not one month. not hours!
  5. dmitreach 25 January 2013 11: 17 New
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    This is a very beautiful plane! I would like that they would rather be modernized. Up to Tu22 m3.
    1. FID
      FID 25 January 2013 11: 32 New
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      I apologize, before the Tu-22M3M - it will be so right.
      1. dmitreach 25 January 2013 11: 49 New
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        thanks for clarification.
    2. VAF
      VAF 25 January 2013 13: 33 New
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      Quote: dmitreach
      I would like that they would rather be modernized. Up to Tu22 m3.


      The question is, why? wink
  6. dimarm74
    dimarm74 25 January 2013 11: 20 New
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    It was immediately clear that this is nonsense .... we ourselves have just 36 combat-ready aircraft typed ....
    Although our rulers for loot can sell anything ....
    1. FID
      FID 25 January 2013 11: 34 New
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      I was wondering, up to 30 aircraft barely typed. But, after modernization, exactly 30 will be!
      1. Antikylller
        Antikylller 25 January 2013 13: 49 New
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        Quote: SSI
        I was wondering, up to 30 aircraft barely typed. But, after modernization, exactly 30 will be!

        Why so little? If I am not mistaken, more than 500 were released?
        1. FID
          FID 25 January 2013 14: 02 New
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          At the end of 2012, the payroll was 150 Tu-22M3 aircraft. A total of 479 vehicles were built (211 Tu-22M2 and 268 Tu-22M3). I suppose, I think, I think that there are 30 combat-ready ones. How is it really?
  7. stalker
    stalker 25 January 2013 11: 38 New
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    Yes, no one would have sold them, much less China
    1. gispanec 25 January 2013 12: 02 New
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      Yes, no one would have sold them, much less China

      I would sell, but not for money but for the return of Port Arthur!
      1. Tatanka Yotanka 25 January 2013 13: 47 New
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        gispanec
        - just about airplanes, so who won
        http://topwar.ru/17631-vvs-rf-poluchat-bolee-180-noveyshih-samoletov-i-vertoleto
        v-do-konca-goda.html # comment-id-515971
  8. askort154 25 January 2013 11: 47 New
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    Free media in international politics is nonsense. All work by order.
    The military budget of any state includes the expense of "work" with the media.
    The largest, naturally, in the USA. So what are the "diving" articles about the sale
    Russian Tu-22m3 to the Chinese, this is not nonsense bloggers or authors of the article. This is a deliberate disinformation (most likely Chinese) for the participants of a possible conflict in the TAP.
  9. TSOOBER 25 January 2013 12: 37 New
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    Figures to the Chinese and not TU-22MZ, let the plastic model buy the manufacturer "STAR" and glue it and paint it with acrylic paint!

    Yes, I’ve forgotten a little -BEO, let the glass cockpit and weapon control system
  10. bukyak84
    bukyak84 25 January 2013 18: 58 New
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    it was immediately clear that bullshit !! ... and the local whiners dismissed the snot right away, they say - well, what kind of rulers we have, everything is READY to sell, I’m probably not enough for the new PALACE laughing
  11. Mik rybalko
    Mik rybalko 27 January 2013 17: 26 New
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    Such machines would be very useful to the Chinese in case of conflict in the South China Sea ..
    Apparently, Chinese engineers are not able to create such machines themselves.
    Or the high likelihood of conflict does not allow them to particularly wait. So you have to try to buy at least something. After all, China does not have its own high-speed shock heavy aircraft, do not say so, but a battle for the offshore area is likely.
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    farmpdfbay 9 July 2015 10: 43 New
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