Kudrin against Rogozin, or New revelations of the ex-minister

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A few months later, the term of office of the head of the Russian Central Bank Sergey Ignatiev expires. He heads the Central Bank of the Russian Federation since 2002 of the year and, according to the regulations, is due this year to cede his post to the new head. The American Bloomberg agency immediately took to present the “candidates” for the post of the head of the Central Bank of Russia, who are allegedly already being considered by President Putin. Despite the fact that the president’s press secretary, Dmitry Peskov, denied rumors that candidates for the change of Sergei Ignatyev are already being discussed in the Kremlin, information from Bloomberg may be of some interest. Why? Because there are some very interesting personalities among the “candidates” predicted by the Americans.



Let's represent everyone, let's say, as a general list: Alexey Kudrin, Mikhail Zadornov and Alexey Ulyukayev. Moreover, it is Kudrin, the American agency engaged in the collection and presentation of financial information that puts in the first place among the contenders for the post of head of the Central Bank of Russia. Yes, yes, that same Alexei Leonidovich Kudrin, who was honored with a resigned resignation when he was head of the finance ministry in the Government, headed by Vladimir Putin. The scene when President Dmitry Medvedev in the fall of 2011 had reprimanded Kudrin for being too active in talking about the Russian economy with overseas “partners” and criticizing plans to re-equip the Russian army, as they say, still stands before his eyes.

After his rather resonant resignation, Aleksey Leonidovich not only did not fade, but also began to actively convey to the masses (especially to foreigners) information that things were going wrong with the Russian economy, in general, in a useless way. And after all, the information from the ex-minister, it must be admitted, was vividly found by the very masses that it was her (the right information) from Kudrin that they wanted to hear. Vladimir Putin’s words about the fact that Kudrin, faithfully and for many years served as finance minister, and generally remained, almost, a friend to the current president, added to the opposition politician Alexey Leonidovich’s piquancy. This piquancy sometimes led to the fact that the public could not decide what kind of “dish” is a person by the name of Kudrin: if he is an oppositionist, then Putin’s words about trust and friendship, if he is an active supporter of the authorities, for the strange craving for systematic criticism of the same authorities he feeds. Perhaps Kudrin of those politicians who simply have a personal opinion? Is it possible in the modern world? ..

Whatever it was, but for the time that has elapsed since his resignation, Alexei Kudrin managed to light up in the ranks of the “swamp” opposition, and with new portions of criticism of Russia's economic actions come forward. And if so, then it becomes clear why Alexey Leonidovich with his “personal opinion” was the one that Bloomberg decided to designate as the number one candidate for the post of head of the Russian Central Bank. Indeed, for the West, Kudrin today can be considered just the ideal head of the Central Bank.

The other day, Alexei Leonidovich gave a rather lengthy interview to the German edition of Der Spiegel, in which he subjected his personal assessment of everything that is happening today economically and politically in Russia. The interview turned out to be noteworthy, and therefore one can consider his most memorable moments in order to be aware of what kind of sauce Alexei Kudrin gives himself today.

From the interviews, it turned out that from the point of view of the former finance minister, the whole of last year was simply lost for the Russian Federation: political reforms could not bring tangible results, and economic reforms were stalled.

It would seem that Kudrin clearly wants to demonstrate his opposition tendencies to the West. However, the ex-minister immediately declares that he frankly does not understand those people who say that Putin should resign ...

In an interview with German journalists, the ex-minister said that the elections were rigged in Russia, and he went to a rally just to protest the fraud. At the same time, Mr. Kudrin immediately clarified that he considers the parliamentary elections to be falsified, and he has no complaints about the holding of the presidential elections. In order to emphasize his loyalty to the president, Kudrin notes that Putin is an exceptionally pragmatic and able to listen to other politicians, but here’s one of his misfortunes — he doesn’t always listen to Kudrin himself ... Like, Vladimir Vladimirovich would correct this “flaw” in himself, then , from the point of view of Kudrin, the ideal head of state ...

In general, it is obvious that Alexey Kudrin is trying to adhere to such a political position, which leaves him room for maneuver. On the one hand, he seems to be a fighter for democratic ideals, an opponent of infringement of rights and freedoms and, in addition, an apologist for a liberal economy trying to make the higher Russian authorities take the right path, but on the other hand Kudrin is “a friend of the president." The first attracts the West to it - as a person who is ready to follow the path of liberalization of all political and economic processes in Russia, the second leaves him a real chance, sooner or later, to be back at one of high government posts (for example, in the same Central Bank). In general, if I may say so, Alexei Kudrin is a man of very flexible political views ...

After talking about how close he is at the same time to both the opposition and the president personally, Alexei Kudrin again decided to highlight his favorite questions (with the suggestion of journalists, of course). One of them is the issue of military reform spending. Former Minister of Finance this time stated that additional military spending is an arms race. Next - quote:

“The Soviet Union crashed, not least because of the arms race. Then we produced a large quantity tanks and combat aircraft, while people with food cards stood in line. It’s impossible for us to repeat this mistake today. ”


Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin immediately responded to Kudrin on the tirade about the arms race and the collapse of the Soviet Union. Why precisely Rogozin? Yes, because it was his name that was mentioned by the correspondents of Der Spiegel, asking Kudrin to comment on how he treats Russian officials who support trillion investments in the defense budget.

Rogozin, in his microblogging, wrote, let's say, an in absentia response to Kudrin:

"... who does not want to feed his army, will feed someone else's."


At the same time, on one of the blog's additions, the Deputy Prime Minister allowed himself a more detailed commentary to the words of the ex-minister:

“Well, why, Alexey Leonidovich, to play up to the West and to replicate the fundamentally incorrect statement about the“ militarization of Russia ”? We did not update the Armed Forces for a quarter of a century! Than combat tasks will be solved? The bodies of soldiers-conscripts, as our liberals did in the First Chechen, or still modern Russia will be able to recreate a reliable shield that can ensure a safe life and economic prosperity for the country and the people? Do you not know that today at every defense plant we update technological equipment for the production of competitive civilian products, so the defense industry in our country really acts as the locomotive of the entire economy of the country, the guarantor of its progressive development. It seems to me that there should be a criticism of the actions of the “defense bloc” of the government, but please do not click! ”


The absentee exchange of the current member of the Russian Government with the former member is now over. But if the skirmish itself is over, then the essence of the question remains. Obviously, if Aleksei Kudrin somehow finds himself in the highest financial circles of power, then one should expect that Russia will switch to a somewhat forgotten trend of tightening the belts. This is a typical Kudrin “economic miracle”, when the entire success of the economy is associated with a constant, reasonable or unreasonable increase in the volume of the financial “cushion” of security. On the one hand, Kudrin says obvious things: in order for us not to be threatened by financial crises, we need to save, save and save once again. To fill a reserve fund, for example, to forget about financing army modernization about a number of social obligations (Kudrin stubbornly promotes the idea of ​​raising the retirement age in Russia). But on the other hand, this position gives a kind of “plushkiniey” ... Save, save, save: do not light candles, do not use ink, put crusts under the pillow. What is the result? As a result, the Russian financial system will obviously not be able to get off this peculiar economy. Yes - Russia's Stabilization Fund, with such an economic policy, a la Kudrin, with time, can turn into a powerful currency cache, but only even then these savings will not work. Alexey Leonidovich or his follower will appear again, who will declare: “Uh, but don't touch the big piggy bank! Suddenly, there is a crisis, suddenly financial instability ... ”And this is already a clear illness of stinginess, which borders on common sense.

If you only save, cut, reduce, squeeze, then when, in fact, live, when to develop? .. Wait for better times? What are these really happen? In any years, you can say that today, they say, is not the best time for defense spending, for additional financing of medicine, for maintaining the retirement age. But this does not mean that you need to pack any income exclusively in stockings and wait for the global economy to collapse. Apparently, Alexey Leonidovich is waiting ... They say that the Union collapsed, and Russia will collapse if “they do not listen to me” ... However, self-esteem ...
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  1. +35
    25 January 2013 08: 25
    Kudrin is an agent of influence, it’s obvious, if he had, he would have converted the entire stabilization fund into American bonds.
    1. +9
      25 January 2013 08: 32
      And I would have put Mikhail Zadorny (comedian) - it would have been more fun (shYutka) ...
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        +23
        25 January 2013 09: 06
        Zadornov, at least a true PATRIOT, and Kudrin is six in the West, a traitor, like some others, I will not point a finger! The question is, if rubles are required for oil and gas and the Stabilization Fund is sent to the RUSSIAN economy, will anything change?
        1. uhjpysq1
          +3
          25 January 2013 11: 49
          ) of course change !!! the poor will become richer, but the rich do not need this. they are already rich, and it’s easier to manage the poor.
        2. VAF
          VAF
          +1
          25 January 2013 12: 49
          Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
          The question is, if rubles are required for oil and gas


          IFS will collapse instantly and there will be a war!

          Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
          To send the stabilization fund to the economy of RUSSIA, will anything change?


          We will live much better. Than in Norway, but who needs it? THEM? So they have everything!

          Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
          and Kudrin is six in the West, a traitor, like some others


          ++++! Just not the West, but AMEROV! soldier
          1. +3
            25 January 2013 14: 22
            Quote: vaf
            The question is, if rubles are required for oil and gas


            IFS will collapse instantly and there will be a war!

            With China, it seems, they were going to trade for rubles, Iran sells oil for gold, in my opinion, the ruble needs a more expansive policy, but military rumors, and then the army, to cool hotheads to room temperature.
            1. +2
              25 January 2013 16: 42
              With China, it seems, they were going to trade for rubles

              The volume of our trade with China is not very ... Unnoticed by the global monetary system.

              Iran trades oil for gold

              With whom? Iran has an embargo on everything with everyone.

              It’s a long time for us to strengthen ourselves before hacking the world system. Although it seems that she herself will collapse soon. Refrain from collapses ...
          2. scrack
            +1
            26 January 2013 01: 13
            No matter whose six, the main thing is that the traitor
      2. 0
        25 January 2013 10: 27
        I think that this is not the same Mikhail Zadornov, who is a "humorist".
        1. +1
          25 January 2013 12: 52
          So I say that "not that" but that humorist.
        2. 0
          25 January 2013 19: 43
          This "humorist" from banking, which means that out of all 3 candidates considered, all three are bastards for Russia hi
      3. +1
        25 January 2013 10: 37
        And, perhaps, it’s also more intelligent. And, at least, he didn’t send the loot to the Americans.
      4. yak69
        +3
        25 January 2013 12: 17
        Mikhail Zadornov is not only a good comedian, a true patriot, but a smart enough person. I am sure that his wit and insight would bring more benefits to the country than the demonic minds of kudrins, grefs, chubais (hereinafter referred to as the list).
        If the money of the stabilization fund had been directed since 2002 to the development of science and our own high-tech industry, today we already had a ton of jobs, highly qualified specialists and we would have something to sell on the international market, except for oil and gas. And also - the country would have a real, tangible future.
        And now, only a "safety cushion" ..... for bankers and oligarchs .....
        1. Kubanets
          +2
          25 January 2013 20: 35
          Why did the ice axes end at the GRU?
          1. scrack
            0
            26 January 2013 01: 15
            You can and an injection of an umbrella
    2. +14
      25 January 2013 08: 49
      Sometimes there is a nasty feeling that all of our leaders were recruited somewhere on the moon ... As soon as a person gets dirty, they transfer him to another chair ... But they never drive me to the toilet ... So This .... ex ...
      1. 0
        25 January 2013 09: 27
        These are not our people, they have undergone good training somewhere, and until the country is completely destroyed, there is no order, and they do not go forward, and the power is the same
      2. VAF
        VAF
        +3
        25 January 2013 12: 50
        Quote: older
        Sometimes there is a nasty feeling that all of our leaders were recruited somewhere on the moon


        but such a feeling. that they are simple Amerian puppets you don’t have, +! wassat
      3. Antikylller
        +1
        26 January 2013 04: 48
        Quote: older
        .But they never drive to the toilet ..

        When it was too late in the toilet to drive too late. I already need a shower - preferably ice and a hose wassat
      4. AlexW
        0
        26 January 2013 23: 22
        to the toilet .... it is necessary to soak am
    3. +10
      25 January 2013 09: 16
      Kudrin Alexei Leonidovich - KAL, he is KAL, what to take from him. Life will show who will be. But certainly not Ulyukaev with his proposals to reduce funding for the regions, reduce pensions and increase the retirement age. Zadornov is a cool pepper, quite competent, but in the Central Bank of the Russian Federation Putin needs to have absolutely his own person on the board. And not political prostitutes working out foreign orders.
      1. +2
        25 January 2013 10: 40
        They have already told you: KUDRIN'S FRIEND PUTIN., And as the saying of folk wisdom? TELL WHO YOUR FRIEND AND I WILL TELL WHO YOU
        1. +5
          25 January 2013 11: 11
          For evgenm55... I address almost all my acquaintances in a friendly way, but this does not at all reflect a real relationship. A friend is known in action. And the epithets were invented for "politeness". If you look at the affairs of K.A.L. and the affairs of Putin, then we can conclude that KAL and Chubais and Gref are people of the same deck, they are out of relationships and time. These people actually conduct their activities exclusively pursuing the interests of foreign customers. It is simply impossible to apply restrictions to them in the current situation. This is evident from the broad spectrum of the functioning of the state apparatus. And you can't put a controller behind every official and you can't get into his brain.
          1. uhjpysq1
            +1
            25 January 2013 11: 52
            why, it’s possible in the brain))) a bullet !!!
            1. 0
              25 January 2013 14: 24
              Quote: uhjpysq1
              why, it’s possible in the brain))) a bullet !!!
              Not those times ...
          2. VAF
            VAF
            +2
            25 January 2013 12: 52
            Quote: AK-74-1
            If you look at the affairs of K.A.L.a and the affairs of Putin, we can conclude that KAL and Chubais and Gref are people of the same deck, they are out of relationship and time


            Well yes. and Vova .. is standing nearby and ... watching wassat ??
            1. +2
              25 January 2013 13: 59
              Dear Sergey vaf! And what can you do against a notorious boor who spreads his hands in relation to you, if you know that they can stand up for him only after seeing your unfriendly expression on your face. Moreover, you understand and have been repeatedly told by very authoritative "advanced partners" that if even one hair falls from K. A. L., no one will give Putin any guarantees of life.
              Politics is bargaining. It is very good that K.A.L. and expelled from the Ministry of Finance, now it is necessary to conduct treasury issuance of funds - the currency of Russia. This is one of the most important tasks. Look, today there has already been an excess of dollars and euros on the exchange and the Central Bank of the Russian Federation instead of the additional issue of the ruble began to increase its rate, that is, artificially limit the money supply.
              1. VAF
                VAF
                0
                25 January 2013 20: 27
                Quote: AK-74-1
                And what can you do against a notorious boor, opening his arms against you


                dear Andrew, you won’t believe it. but there hasn’t been such a case in my life (in a peaceful one of course), since I have always been very healthy and strong (I now realized in my old age that sport is professional. makes people frail and hunchbacked) and until this ... better not, and they knew it!
                Well, now .. so I have a dog. I already wrote some. so now I don’t have to do it at all .. even think, and not just look in my direction!

                This is so in a fit of lyrical digression!

                But in essence. Yes, politics is a bargain., they only bargain for a place in the sun only for themselves, and not for us. for the people!

                And all these "wiggles" that THEY are doing supposedly .... this is .. riding over the ears or running on the spot. Or rather the other side. But not forward. to a brighter future!

                Andrei. This is IMHO, you can call it senile senility, here no offense. I will understand everything and it will be fine! drinks
      2. +2
        25 January 2013 11: 38
        Quote: AK-74-1
        But certainly not Ulyukaev with his proposals to reduce funding for the regions, reduce pensions and increase the retirement age.
        Ulyukaev did not make such proposals. Here is his article on Pension Reform. http://www.vedomosti.ru/opinion/news/1531010/pesnya_pensij
        In it, in particular, he claims that there is no sense in raising the retirement age.
        1. 0
          25 January 2013 13: 51
          I'm not talking about this article. He has published on the goals of the so-called "inflation targeting".
          Here is the link:
          http://institutiones.com/general/256-2008-06-18-12-49-21.html
          Take a closer look. Many abstruse terms hide absolutely simple and understandable desires. If you are ready to discuss, write in a personal.
    4. +11
      25 January 2013 09: 25
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Kudrin Influence Agent

      A colleague, the reason for the current attacks by Kudrin towards the Kremlin is banal until I can -driven away from the feeder hi
    5. +7
      25 January 2013 09: 27
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Kudrin is an agent of influence, it’s obvious, if he had, he would have converted the entire stabilization fund into American bonds.

      If they put Kudrin on the nationalization of the Central Bank, one can forget. To give such a post to Kudrin will be Putin’s biggest mistake. I have, like all of us, seen enough time in which circle this clown communicates.
      1. +1
        25 January 2013 09: 46
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        in which circle does this clown communicate.
        The circle of communication of all our politicians, not looking at supposedly political preferences, is about the same ... I think the question is different ... Kudrin is an active introduction into the Western economy and the loss, though partial, of our own independence ... and this will just make us supporters of preserving the dollar (our reserves are in it), We will work again in the USA
        1. 0
          25 January 2013 10: 47
          Regardless of the rhetoric of one or another person (Kudrin, Rogozin), foreign and domestic policy will not undergo radical changes. The directions of flows may change and the circle of faces may change (others will fill their pockets with money). But Kudrin's PLYUSHKINISM is simply "P3 / 14".
      2. +15
        25 January 2013 10: 37
        Alexander Romanov,

        When the same liberals and American experts say about Kudrin that he is an independent opposition politician, "He is the most independent to head the Central Bank" this means that he is most independent of our authorities, and as much as possible dependent on the Fed.
        In general, the entire banking system based on loan interest and loans serves the interests of the Fed and, like our Central Bank, is forced to submit to their financial policies. Alas, there is no national currency of its own and there is no independent Central Bank.
        In general, many people have already understood that consumer or mortgage credit is a financial noose around their neck. It’s not by chance that people say that the word “loan” is formed by the abbreviation “kretin + bandit". In English, however, everything is the same - the mortgage there is called mortgage, from the word "mors" (Latin) - death.
        On November 12, 2011, Vladimir Putin took part in the International Financial Conference of Sberbank, dedicated to the 170th anniversary of the institution, where he threw a very accurate phrase in the direction of a moneylender, who was temporarily assigned a legal status:
        Mr. Gref began his presentation of the bank’s work and today's event by comparing this financial institution with a person - he said that, if Sberbank was a man (this age is solid), then Raskolnikov would probably be found on him during this time. This also cannot be ruled out.
        1. +2
          25 January 2013 10: 50
          Quote: Ascetic
          this means that he is most independent of our authorities, and as much as possible dependent on the Fed.

          Stanislav, good health! good !
        2. +4
          25 January 2013 12: 06
          Quote: Ascetic
          Mr. Gref began his presentation of the work of the bank and today's event by comparing this financial institution with a person - he said that if Sberbank was a person (this age is solid), then Raskolnikov would probably have found him. This also cannot be ruled out.

          - Putin said well!
          All the time I voiced and I will voice - financiers in a stall! The work of financiers should be evaluated in the same way as the work of a stoker in winter - the less we notice the work of representatives of these two professions, however. it means that this work is better done. In the case of financiers, it should look like this - when solving production and business problems, payments, financing and other financial support will be provided in such a timely manner, on time and for such a fee that it should be inconspicuous. Loan interest should generally be canceled; instead, determine the amount for the maintenance of the financial system and maintain this system. To exclude the financial system from economic relations as an independent factor that can affect economic problems
        3. +1
          25 January 2013 14: 26
          Quote: Ascetic
          rider or mortgage loan is a financial noose around your neck
          John of Kronstadt called credit the evil of our time.
      3. +1
        25 January 2013 10: 48
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        about the nationalization of the Central Bank, it will be possible to forget.

        You are about her and do not remember her will not !!!!!! Alas! hi
      4. +3
        25 January 2013 11: 28
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        If they put Kudrin on the nationalization of the Central Bank, it will be possible to forget.

        For some reason I think the same.
      5. VAF
        VAF
        +2
        25 January 2013 12: 57
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        If they put Kudrin on the nationalization of the Central Bank, it will be possible to forget.


        Sanya, hello! +! drinks about the nationalization of the Central Bank, and so on, must be forgotten altogether and forever. as great and omnipotent in power with his team!

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Writing such a post to Kudrin will be Putin’s biggest mistake


        He already has so many that one less, one more .. what's the difference?

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Lately, like all of us, I've seen enough in which circle this clown communicates.


        sanya.it's all "postana", as well as with the Bolotny navalnye.nemtsovsky and sobchachki .... or do you think that the image makers of the great and Almighty eat their bread for free ???
    6. +1
      25 January 2013 10: 08
      Goggle truth! soldier
    7. +2
      25 January 2013 10: 17
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Kudrin is an agent of influence, it’s obvious, if he had, he would have converted the entire stabilization fund into American bonds.

      Apparently, he leads the American lobby in the Russian government and is strong enough, because he didn’t go to Kolyma immediately after his statements and can still apply for some kind of position !!
    8. VAF
      VAF
      0
      25 January 2013 12: 46
      Quote: Vladimirets
      if he had the will, he would have converted the entire stabilization fund into American bonds.


      And who said that he (the stabilization fund) is not all there ????? bully +! drinks

      After all, these are forever thrown off livestock for oil and gas, FOREVER!

      A pyramid with debt papers is being played, which periodically seems to be redeemed with scanty interest. But others are bought immediately and that's it!

      Two Enemies are Humpbacked and Curly. that's just one of them has done more evil ????? In my opinion ... kinky!
    9. rolik
      +1
      25 January 2013 14: 07
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Kudrin Influence Agent

      a person is simply lost, lost in himself, in his views and desires. on their prospects in a society called Russia. He wants everything: to eat a pie and climb on ... a tree, sit on two chairs, to be good for both "yours" and "ours." here the poor fellow is rushing about. It seems that he has a severe stroke: all the centers responsible for higher activity have turned off, only the basic functions remain. And he crawls on the floor, and pokes in one corner, then in another corner, while not seeing anything in front of him. Such people are especially dangerous, at any moment they can stab a knife in the back, and then explain this by "an urgent need and concern for the future ....." but whose future they will be worried about - it will be invented in the course of the play. Such as Kudrin nacho send to the States, along with the tagged, to lecture on economics, politics, restructuring of the state. Let them show their teachers how they learned their lessons.
  2. fenix57
    +8
    25 January 2013 08: 41
    Well, since the American agency Bloomberg predicts Kudrin, then what can I say. I would put things in order (sick tantrums running around Congress). "Alexey Kudrin is a man of very flexible political [/ i] views ... "-but is it not bending too far in front of potential opponents of Russia.
    1. +9
      25 January 2013 08: 49
      Quote: fenix57
      Alexey Kudrin is a man of very flexible political views ... "- is he not bending too much in front of potential opponents of Russia?

      The question, I suppose it is rhetorical? ... but then, this "gymnast" bent so that he can lick, not only the American ass, but also his own ...
    2. +5
      25 January 2013 08: 51
      Quote: fenix57
      but is it not bending too far in front of potential opponents of Russia.
      Political views are of course an important factor ... But the betrayer will betray both the second and the third ... Axiom ... But Russia is such a small country that there are no others in this place ... The people themselves, the authorities themselves. .Soviet joke about the son of a general who dreams of becoming a marshal has not lost its relevance today ....
    3. +3
      25 January 2013 09: 29
      Quote: fenix57
      "Alexey Kudrin is a man of very flexible political [

      And liberals are all very flexible and gentle, to the point of blueness.
    4. +2
      25 January 2013 16: 49
      Quote: fenix57
      Bloomberg’s U.S. agency predicts Kudrin,

      Once Americans praise - it means filth! And in no case should he again be allowed into the power structures.
  3. +4
    25 January 2013 08: 41
    I think Putin will surprise us all
  4. djon3volta
    +5
    25 January 2013 08: 49
    but I honestly admit that I don’t need honest and open elections, because everyone has access to an Internet, and there are a lot of people who do not understand politics at all, these are different students and managers who are easy to manipulate, which is what all sorts of trololo do. therefore, if fair elections are held in the country, then all sorts of Nemtsovs and Navalny can easily enter the Kremlin, and most of the country's population is certainly not fit. So I'm glad that the country is run by former KGB officers, not managers and economists.
    1. Natalia
      +2
      25 January 2013 11: 19
      Exactly, the truth you say now good
    2. VAF
      VAF
      +1
      25 January 2013 13: 01
      Quote: djon3volta
      therefore, if fair elections are held in the country, then all sorts of Nemtsovs and Navalny can easily enter the Kremlin


      Who told you that ?????

      Quote: djon3volta
      so I'm glad that the country is led by former KGB officers


      More precisely, they rule, but who is leading them? bully
      1. +2
        25 January 2013 14: 10
        VAF,

        Serega hello. What the fuck are you so cruel. lady anyway. hi understood what i mean?

        It could have been more condescending, so to speak, as an elder to prompt, explain.
        1. VAF
          VAF
          0
          25 January 2013 20: 38
          Quote: vorobey
          understood what i mean?


          Hi Sanya, yes I understood. +! drinks but ... at the wrong moment I fell under the "hand" recourse

          Just yesterday, the Tu-204 crash was sorting out the crew’s pure fault (unprofessionalism and 100% unpreparedness), so today in the morning in the morning in Kazan the Ural Airlines didn’t pick up a mouthful of land with passengers!
          one to one situation in Smolensk. only there is a military airfield and without landing systems providing landing in the complex. Yes, and the weather was almost 0 to 0, and here the airfield with full forcemeat, the plane is even more forcemeat. the weather is 100 to 1000. so they go in the machine and only when the dispatcher yelled where you are going. then disconnected and dragged to the second round in his arms. while hooking and strutting his ass about the middle antenna!
          And this is 1 km to the strip and the minimum passage height is 50-60 meters, and the antenna, depending on the type of lighthouse, is from 3 to 5 meters, so imagine a picture ...
          and if the dispatcher stupidly missed out or 10 seconds later went on the air?

          M ... nlyat, where further is that ???? am And then there are these ... great and Almighty ..... angry
          1. +1
            25 January 2013 20: 45
            Quote: vaf
            Only yesterday the Tu-204 disaster was being disassembled, the crew’s pure fault

            What do you think about this? http://nnm.ru/blogs/bch/aleksey-kochemasov-vo-vnukovo-est-odna-malenkaya-no-poga
            naya-zanoza /
            1. VAF
              VAF
              0
              25 January 2013 23: 18
              Quote: Spade
              What do you think about this?


              It's good that I looked at the last. otherwise your question would remain unanswered!
              you immediately duplicate in PM. then immediately see.

              I have not read and already wrote my vision of this disaster (go to the article on MiG-31!
              I read and saw that I wrote correctly-ONLY THE ABSOLUTE PREPARATION OF PILOTS of civil aviation, lack of professionalism ... protection from super modern technology that flies everywhere and in everything only in the machine.
              The poor and unhappy author writes that they see you can’t fly on the OSB, that is. for the bottom 300-500 for 5 t..this is already a guard-oini used to. that the machine in the machine will lead to alignment, even the gas automatic machine will take turns off, and they only have to keep the direction on the run ???

              And from a circle from 1800 meters they didn’t enter the complex ???? they don’t know how ... ???? And here a circle of 900 meters. Reduction to 400 and passengers stole ???? At a normal descent speed of 10 m / s. like in an elevator. A little more reduction is less than a minute and the plane travels a distance of only a few kilometers.
              what the fuck is the neck of the bottle ???? The scheme is absolutely normal and feasible already for the 2nd year cadet of the flight school!
              generally did not even read to the end ....
              Conclusion-snickering!
              My advice is don't fly with our airlines. if you cannot find out who is at the helm, if former military men, then boldly go ahead, if at the age of 50, then it is also possible with citizens. but if .. "remakes". I do not recommend it!
              you and your loved ones will be more whole! IMHO! soldier
              1. +1
                25 January 2013 23: 28
                Clear. In short, the education system in almost all areas collapsed. It is not good. Thanks for the clarification.
    3. +3
      25 January 2013 16: 49
      if fair elections are held in the country, then any Nemtsovs and Navalny can easily enter the Kremlin

      In my experience working in the elections, if they are fair, then approximately 30% of the Communist Party, 10% of the Liberal Democratic Party, 15-20% of the CP, 30% of EP, and percent of 10 shit will enter the Kremlin.
      So don’t be afraid of the elections, be afraid of their absence.
  5. Gogan
    +4
    25 January 2013 08: 49
    Putin is still feeding Chubais and &. Weird!
    1. +3
      25 January 2013 10: 19
      Quote: Gogan

      Putin still feeds Chubais and &

      This is a moot point. Rather, the hand washes his hand.
  6. 0
    25 January 2013 08: 52
    Yes, Kudrin raises many questions, although the article says a lot of negative things, but the idea of ​​financial security is important to us. And that is a fact. But the fact that he is against spending on military purchases is bad. The most ideal option would be for it not to crack like everything is bad with us, but to really be able to develop an economic course where these 2 problems get along with each other.
  7. 0
    25 January 2013 08: 55
    .... After his rather resonant resignation, Alexei Leonidovich not only did not go into the shadows, but also began to actively convey to the masses (especially foreign) information about what is happening with the Russian economy ....

    He began to convey, damn it, to foreign media .......

    .... Here, he, the Great and Mighty Russian Language ..
  8. +1
    25 January 2013 09: 16
    Prokhindey this kudrin, as they say, both ours and yours
    1. 0
      25 January 2013 13: 52
      Rather like this: And yours and not ours :)
  9. +4
    25 January 2013 09: 21
    Yes, he is a western prostitute! If the Americans prophesy it, then their appointment will be very beneficial to them !!! What else to add ???? Maybe Amer is trying to exert informational pressure for the purpose of manipulation ...... Listen to America and do everything as a bearded man!
  10. +1
    25 January 2013 09: 33
    Kudrin must be made head of the Fed. Let them save and raise their retirement age. Yes, and it will be easier for us, one less enemy.
    1. DERWISH
      +1
      25 January 2013 15: 34
      Kudrin must be lowered to the ground for all, judging by his love of the West, over time this will be a serious problem for RUSSIA
  11. 0
    25 January 2013 09: 44
    Kudrin, another swindler of the State Department, who had been looking at the Russian capsule for a very long time, has now been removed and naturally all his forces will again be thrown into putting him back in a warm place ... after all, if you think about it for a year now as a minister and a year like an unemployed person and feels great with it and does not bathe, and even rides the Taoists. Who is he now? so that they sit and listen to him, there is not any leverage he has, but they don’t sit and listen, and even let him speak there ...
    But Ragozin is sympathetic to me, he says and does a lot of right things.
    Quote "Yes, I planted two small poplars in the Brussels in front of NATO headquarters, just poplar and poplar M" ... (Rogozin program with Pozner.)
  12. +3
    25 January 2013 09: 50
    I do not like Kudrin. He may be the highest professional, but his views are not credible.
    About the stab. I don’t understand the fund at all. Why deposit our money with a potential adversary. The more the worse. If what, then what? We are left without this money. And immediately we will become poor.
    And I get the feeling that this is what Kudrin is pursuing saying that you need to save as much as possible, rather than spend. And send savings overseas. And then they will throw us trite. Even if it’s not war, but let’s say America defaults, what will happen to our investments in their T-bills? Evaporate?
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      +1
      25 January 2013 10: 31
      It is necessary to deprivatize the CBR, to become a sovereign country, and send Kudrin with the Germans and Gasparov to hell! Yes, and this government too ...
  13. +1
    25 January 2013 09: 53
    In 2008, all this vaunted Kudrin financial pillow went into pouring money into commercial banks, that is, what the Fed and the ECB are doing now, only they make money from the air and we have earned these reserves.
  14. nickname 1 and 2
    +2
    25 January 2013 09: 57
    The people say this: in the beginning he was smart, and then he became smart as a duck!
    By God, they say so!
  15. 0
    25 January 2013 10: 00
    All kinds of KALs live well in our country, blather what they want, give interviews, teach, and I believe that let them teach overseas spiders, they are closer and dearer to them.
  16. 0
    25 January 2013 10: 03
    << On the one hand, he seems to be a fighter for democratic ideals, an opponent of infringement of rights and freedoms and, in addition, an apologist for the liberal economy, trying to reason with the higher Russian authorities to take the right path, but on the other hand, Kudrin is a "FRIEND OF THE PRESIDENT." >
    As popular wisdom says, Lord, deliver such FRIENDS, and I will also rid myself of enemies!



    --
  17. fenix57
    +9
    25 January 2013 10: 04
    Quote: volkan
    I do not like Kudrin. He can be the highest pros,

    It is a fact. And the Gaidars and Chubais in their craft succeeded ... uki (dogs of a girl), but they are trying not for Russia. There are no more words, just drooling.
  18. TAGIR
    +1
    25 January 2013 10: 19
    For the United States, the most ideal figure. I invested all the Russian money saved in American obligations, due to such obligations the United States spends more than it earns. The old American tradition of trading for beads. We exchange oil, gas and steel for beads (dolars, mmm-ki), instead of buying technologies and machines that we have never sold to us under the Jackson-Wannick law. I suggest that the Americans conduct an up-grade for China and send Ku Drin there so that he stops the growth of China.
  19. +5
    25 January 2013 10: 27
    Vladimir Putin is a skilled and confident politician. So, there are various groups in the government, he knows this well. He, as head of state, cannot but reckon with those or other groups that are represented in the leadership. They are like in the administration, in the government and, naturally, in parliament. He, as head of state, cannot move or push away from himself, and keeps them all on distance, therefore, in my opinion, when taking certain decisions, he takes into account these factors. In general, I’m alien from guessing on the coffee grounds, especially since I’ll make some predictions. It all depends on which of the presented groups will win under the carpet war P a representative for the post of head of the Central Bank. That is, in other words, whose arguments will be more powerful and convincing. Simply put, this may not even be the figure that the American agency Bloomberg predicted.
    As for the current attitude of V. Putin towards Kudrin, I’ll say so, keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.
    1. +2
      25 January 2013 10: 47
      I liked the different groups ... Don’t remember how many of them remained around Joseph Vissarionovich? Well, yes, it's Putin ...
  20. fenix57
    +4
    25 January 2013 10: 28
    Friends thought: "What else would you run into in Russia ...:" am
    1. +2
      25 January 2013 10: 49
      Rather, they are looking for a not yet privatized "piece" on the map of the Motherland in order to urgently privatize and send it to the stabilization fund ...
    2. +2
      25 January 2013 10: 50
      A question for the grudge of the day .... Why is Chubais still alive ????
    3. DERWISH
      +1
      25 January 2013 15: 39
      FACES they have as if the patties with potato were taken away.
      1. +2
        25 January 2013 16: 52
        Quote: DERWISH
        FACES they have as if they took away pies with potatoes

        Probably listen to the anthem and remember the USSR!
    4. Oleg Rosskiyy
      +2
      25 January 2013 18: 56
      fenix57,
      Chubais has a head on nano-technologies that shines like his energy-saving light bulbs, but seriously, this is a diagnosis, while Putin is stubbornly trying to attract foreign investment, Kudrin stubbornly scares them away, denigrating everything that has been done and especially not without his participation. the word is a parasite.
  21. +1
    25 January 2013 10: 54
    we have already seen in the past year how many top officials have shown themselves in relation to Putin's policies. How do they in one way or another defend the interests of the United States in relation to Russia. If we analyze the activities of Kudrin as the Ministry of Finance, then we can see the hand of the states in establishing "order" in the Russian economy. Such a wild tax system could only be invented by the country's enemies to stifle entrepreneurial activity. Oligarchs appointed by the State Department do not count. Russia needs the National Bank, which is 100% subordinate to the Russian government, not to the State Department. Then the states will lose such a wonderful cash cow, the role of which Russia plays today. And this is precisely what they do not want. So they are trying to put their protege Kudrin on the main financial post of the country.
  22. CCA
    CCA
    +1
    25 January 2013 11: 00
    Quote: Apollon
    Vladimir Putin is a skilled and confident politician
    We can agree with this ... At a meeting with reporters, Putin, when asked about the possibility of Kudrin returning to the team, replied that he was still in the team ... I think some compromise was found and, perhaps, further steps will surprise us ...
  23. Natalia
    +3
    25 January 2013 11: 25
    In my opinion, Kudrin is a person who does not have his own strong opinion, he is spinning around like a girl of easy virtue: they say if Putin sends a hell out of a loan then he gets a pro-Western position, if Putin does find a job, all right .... And of course, in the process of presentation, it seems that Kudrin, in someone’s strained hands.
  24. bp220
    -1
    25 January 2013 12: 17
    The stock of pockets does not tear, neither eats nor drinks. The monk is not 8888 but 888 in his pocket.
  25. USNik
    0
    25 January 2013 12: 52
    In a few months, the term of office of the head of the Russian Central Bank, Sergei Ignatiev, will expire.

    Give Shoigu to the post of head of the Central Bank! lol
    And on the topic, Kudrin sleeps and sees how he buys and buys American debt coats at the expense of the stabilization fund ...
  26. recruit
    0
    25 January 2013 12: 56
    It is time for him and Chubais to deal with another structure.
  27. Natalia
    +2
    25 January 2013 13: 45
    That's how many times I looked at Kudrin on TV, all the time it seems that he is somehow not knocked down, then the bast does not knit, then it’s sleepy, in short it’s boiled
  28. +6
    25 January 2013 13: 50
    I once saw an interview with Kudrin about the stabilization fund and the possibilities of using it for the development of Russian projects. He said in all seriousness that "this money is not earned, if we put it into circulation we will not get anything but inflation." A strange conclusion for a proprietary genius of economics. I wonder what he would suggest doing to Saudi Arabia, Qatar - not to spend a penny and invest oil and gas money only in US government securities? They would twirl their fingers at their temples and suggest ...
    In our country, these thoughts are declared part of the public as the ultimate truth, and economic instruments for their effective use within the country are underdeveloped. All this is strange
    I want to be a great economist, then you can safely say all sorts of strange things without risking to be considered an engaged person.
    1. Urrry
      +2
      25 January 2013 17: 22
      everything is mysterious with these financiers and economists: what Saudi Arabia and Qatar do with their money is harmful to Russia ... they suggest the United States not to allow a decrease in consumer demand and increase it since this is the key to the development of the economy and the sale of goods - and right there Russia is told that it is impossible to increase the incomes of the population because it threatens hyperinflation, and money must be stored in all kinds of stabilization funds and not spend ... or maybe the increase in consumer demand due to the incomes of the population and we would How did it work in the USA? :)
  29. Urrry
    +2
    25 January 2013 17: 10
    Of course, I don’t like Kudrin, I agree with the article that he simply turned into a certain “Plyushkin” with his super-primitive formula “so that there is a lot of money in the budget, there is no need to spend it from there at all” ... however, in the light of the revealed irrational use of money funds in the Ministry of Defense under Serdyukov - he was right about something: for those watchdogs, how many trillions you don’t pour, they will plunder everything :)
  30. Natalia
    +4
    25 January 2013 17: 27
    And indeed, in no case can one save on one’s own security and state security. We are saving up money, but we will protect them with what. Or maybe we will pay off .... of course this is nonsense. Ragozin is right, a huge fleet of military equipment created back in Soviet times, this applies to literally everything from submachine guns to intercontinental ballistic missiles, and very significant injections into the defense industry are needed to update all this.

    For as Vladimir Vladimirovich said: "Of course, we must rearm, because the wolf eats, eats and does not listen to anyone."
    1. -1
      25 January 2013 18: 37
      Natalia, what kind of "gun" do you have in your hands, on your avatar, I mean? smile
      1. Natalia
        +2
        28 January 2013 09: 58
        SVD, existing in a single copy, assembled to order smile
  31. Andrey58
    -1
    25 January 2013 19: 08
    Kudrin is an excellent economist. I think it’s the right place for him to lead the Central Bank.
  32. sxn278619
    -2
    25 January 2013 19: 57
    Bullshit Rogozin
    Our defense industry really acts as a locomotive of the entire economy of the country, a guarantor of its ongoing development.
    Any military-industrial complex is a black hole - in the USSR. in the USA, in Russia.
    Art politics to protect their country with minimal means.
    Kudrin is a "lame duck".
    If Putin appoints a liberal, he will receive less than 2% of GDP growth on paper and will not sit until the end of his term.
  33. DmitriRazumov
    +2
    25 January 2013 20: 17
    http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/russland-ex-finanzminister-kudrin-im-interview-
    a-879078.html
    The Germans and most Westerners consider Kudrin the best finance minister in the world. Here is a link to his interview with the German magazine der Spiegel, in which the correspondent asks Kudrin for advice to leave Germany or not from the eurozone.
    Westerners consider Kudrin's sole merit that Russia has accumulated huge financial reserves and a stabilization fund, which allowed it to almost not notice the 2008 crisis.
    On the other hand, this idea is not tricky to hide savings in a stocking. As you know, the main slogan of any financier is: "No money!"
    It is much more difficult to create sources of profit by competent investments, which financiers simply are not capable of due to their accounting horizons.
    Many experts hold Kudrin responsible for investing in American securities. during the crisis, they fell in price and, accordingly, the state lost enormous funds. But the Americans, I think, have a double benefit from this: they got loot for free, and they sold the pieces of paper.
    There is Keynesian theory of economics. proposed for Keynes, who had fallen into a crisis in the West, who visited the USSR in the 30s. This model is based on the contrary on investing in production and on competent macroeconomic planning of the national economy.
    Therefore, our investment in the defense industry. should become the locomotive of the economy is not so bad ....
    1. Andrey58
      0
      25 January 2013 20: 51
      Quote: DmitriRazumov
      Many experts hold Kudrin responsible for investing in American securities

      This has been and remains the most reliable means of investment. So they all do. There is nothing more to invest in. Partly for this reason, the United States is still on its feet.
      1. DmitriRazumov
        +1
        26 January 2013 14: 14
        Quote: Andrey58
        So they all do. There is nothing more to invest in. Partly for this reason, the United States is still on its feet.

        Unfortunately, they do so ... but not the production workers. They want to boost the economy of their country on the basis of improving its quality and job growth, and exchange speculators.
        It is impossible to grow to infinity only on speculation, especially when there is nothing beneath them except paper. This is precisely the source of the economic crisis. At the same time, those who print paper are not in the loser.
        Our country in order to earn the currency on which. then US securities are bought, gas and oil must be sold. It is enough for states to print dollars. There is a difference?
        Therefore, this is still a one-goal game ...
  34. sxn278619
    -1
    25 January 2013 20: 24
    Who fell the most out of 20 in the crisis.
    Russia 8% of GDP
    Germany
    Japan
    All export oriented economies.
  35. Tagir-abzi
    0
    25 January 2013 21: 31
    [media = http: //youtu.be/YAvZhA_-efI]
  36. +1
    25 January 2013 21: 31
    Kudrin transferred so much money to the West that he is their best minister. This money works for the American economy, and ours are forced to take foreign loans, and now there are enough debtors among private entrepreneurship. That's the whole point of his policy.
    1. Andrey58
      0
      25 January 2013 23: 15
      Quote: tank64rus
      Kudrin poured so much money into the West that he was their best minister. This money works for the American economy.

      Any ideas how to use currency export earnings in our economy?
  37. +1
    25 January 2013 21: 37
    Kudrin is a political prostitute
  38. +1
    25 January 2013 23: 20
    If you only save, cut, reduce, squeeze, then when, in fact, live, when to develop? .. Wait for better times? What are these really happen? In any years, you can say that today, they say, is not the best time for defense spending, for additional financing of medicine, for maintaining the retirement age. But this does not mean that you need to pack any income exclusively in stockings and wait for the global economy to collapse. Apparently, Alexey Leonidovich is waiting ... They say that the Union collapsed, and Russia will collapse if “they do not listen to me” ... However, self-esteem ...

    Well, what kind of savings are we talking about? Everything that they have accumulated will be plundered by various "Mebelmans and Co." And did you try to stop the theft and corruption? Is an effective investment in your own economy a gut? Or maybe, how to conduct thieves' summits and Olympics, to cure sick children, if we ourselves cannot, then operate abroad? IMHO: The prestige of the state is not in the holding of the Olympic Games and championships, but the absence of sick children and disabled children. Apparently, I don't understand something.
  39. 0
    26 January 2013 15: 36
    I do not like this Kudrin. I don’t like it at all.
  40. 0
    26 January 2013 21: 06
    Does anyone know where the previous stabilization fund went? It seems that he has completely disappeared without a sound ... What fate awaits the present?
    1. 0
      26 January 2013 21: 19
      Quote: Mikhail M
      Does anyone know where the previous stabilization fund went? It seems that he has completely disappeared without a sound ... What fate awaits the present?

      During the 2008 crisis, huge amounts of money were poured into banks to preserve the banking system. These funds were taken offshore without stopping. Look there. "To whom the war is - to whom the mother is dear."
  41. sprsnc
    0
    27 January 2013 00: 06
    soap opera - bloomberg

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