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"An undeclared war is going on in Finland against Russian children and mothers"

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"An undeclared war is going on in Finland against Russian children and mothers"Finnish authorities robbed Russian women of Svetlana Karelina of two children who arrived on a tourist visa to their father living in Finland. The situation to the Voice of Russia was commented on by Pavel Astakhov, the Commissioner under the President of the Russian Federation for child rights, Finnish human rights activist Johan Beckman and Russian friend Anastasia Vainik
The Finnish authorities have taken away Artem and Sonya Karelins 6-year-old twins from a pediatrician from Petrozavodsk Svetlana Karelina when they were visiting their father in Finland, Beckman told Golos Rossii.



- While their whereabouts are unknown. Despite the fact that children have only Russian citizenship and they are officially, according to the decision of the court of the city of Petrozavodsk, after the parents divorce, they live with their mother in Russia, the mother still does not know anything about her children. Svetlana can not contact or meet with children.

We have information that the Finnish juvenile justice system once again decided to isolate children from Russian mother and then de-Russify them, that is, to isolate children from Russia, the Russian language, Russian culture, and Russian mother.

I believe that the likely reason for this behavior of the authorities is that the father of the children, the Ingermanlander Sergey Timonen, agreed to de-Russify his children and isolate them from Russia. It is not uncommon for Ingrian immigrants in Finland to become real Russophobes. In addition, the former husband of Svetlana Karelina does not work anywhere, she lives on benefits. He has a residence permit in Finland and he wants to live in this country. These benefits to him and can guarantee the authorities in exchange for the rejection of Russia and the de-Russification of children.

- than this история may end?

- It is necessary, of course, to urgently return the children of Karelina to their homeland, to Russia, to the city of Petrozavodsk, where they live by the decision of the court of Petrozavodsk with their mother. To realize the interests of the child in this situation, it is necessary, of course, through the courts, through the Ministry of Justice. And then the Russian authorities, of course, must take decisive measures in order to free the children.

In Finland, there is a quiet undeclared war against Russian children and mothers. According to the Russian Mothers international public movement, Artyom and Sonya have already become 52 and 53 children taken away from their parents.

At the same time, the Finnish authorities categorically reject any dialogue with the Russian side on the rights of children and the family, on the creation of a bilateral body to solve problems.

The UN Committee on the Rights of the Child has been criticizing Finland for years for systematic violation of the rights of the child, but it does not respond at all.

Russian friend Anastasia Vainik told the Voice of Russia about the situation with Svetlana Karelina’s children:

"Children are now with their father. Mom cannot talk to them. When she arrived in Finland last Thursday, January 17 - and before that she hadn’t seen children for two months - her father called the police. She was detained, spent an hour in the police station and they didn’t let her go to the children anymore.

Parents divorced. There is a court decision on divorce. Resolution in absentia, as the pope did not appear in court. On November 23, a trial was to take place, which was initiated by the father in Russia, since, in his opinion, the mother impedes him in communicating with the children. He promised to return 23, but did not return, and told her that you can forget about the children.

Svetlana did everything she could do. We have a decision of the Petrozavodsk City Court that children should live in Russia with their mother. On Friday the Supreme Court of the Republic of Karelia will be held. I think that the decision is unlikely to be changed, because everything is in order. But we cannot take them from the territory of Finland. We are told: "Wait." Because papa has filed his petitions there, he wants to issue sole custody of the children.

There is no chance to agree with the father. Mom is not deprived of parental rights. She has the same rights to these children as her dad, if he shows off with equal rights. However, arriving on the territory of another country, it actually loses these rights. "

Pavel Astakhov, Commissioner under the President of the Russian Federation, commented on the situation to the Voice of Russia.

- The situation looks extremely strange. Previously, it was about mixed marriages. And now the Finnish authorities are taking certain actions against the citizens of Russia.

- The situation is really strange and terrible. The question arises whether Finland is going to listen to our statements at all or whether it wants to leave the European Union, which already criticizes it. The UN Committee criticizes Finland for such actions. Instead of working with Russian families and protecting them from unwarranted harassment in Finland, everything is done the other way around.

It is necessary to create normal international legal mechanisms. An agreement between Russia and Finland on legal assistance existed from 1972, up to the disappearance of the Soviet Union. After that, the Finns flatly refuse to sign such an agreement. Instead of going towards us and creating a commission, at least an intergovernmental one, to consider these disputes, to depoliticize the situation, reduce tension, help these families and still get away from political accusations, everything is done the other way around.

Now not only children from mixed families are withdrawing children, but simply children, citizens of Russia, who arrived on a tourist visa to Finland. This means that a precedent has been created. Therefore, now we urgently need to take action against Finland. And I think that all sorts of methods are good here. Both economic and political. As for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, of course, I appeal to the Foreign Ministry. Consular officers are obliged, by virtue of their authority, to protect the rights of Russian citizens in the territory of another country, they are obliged to intervene now, to find these children, to find out if everything is in order with them, where they are, if they are not subjected to ill-treatment. Because finding children in a shelter, as practice shows with Anastasia Zavgorodnya, is simply dangerous for children.

- It turns out, if the citizens of Russia came to Finland, can the local authorities select the children and leave them in the country for a while?

- Maybe forever, you know, I already have all sorts of thoughts on this now creep in. The fact is that Finland quite recently faced a serious demographic threat in general, because it is a very small nation, a small country and a very small population. And it is clear that this is why they adopted a law on the welfare of children in 2008, but this law introduces an extrajudicial procedure for the removal of children and deprivation of parental rights. And this happens in absentia. Already more than 20 thousands of children have been withdrawn, including more than 60 cases, which only we know for sure, exemptions from Russian-speaking families.

And look what kind of chain is built. The Russian woman Rimma Salonen stole a child - they just took out the seven-year-old Anton in the trunk of a car. Three children were seized from Zavgorodnya, including a ten-day baby, and seized at the request of an older girl, who said that she seemed to be paped. Now both of them are deprived of parental rights, the children live in a shelter. Albina Kasatkina was seized of children simply by a denunciation, after a call from her ex-husband's new cohabitant. Here two kids arrived, citizens of Russia, on a tourist trip, and they were simply taken away. Therefore, a precedent has been created. It just becomes a dangerous country for traveling Russian tourists and living there.

- You wrote on Twitter today that the Finnish social services do not stop looking for any pretexts for the seizure of Russian children. And, apparently, for the time being, the resolution of all these situations, more than 50 of Russian mothers affected by the actions of the Finnish guardianship agencies, is waiting for an explanation from the Finnish government. And while such explanations, as I understand it, do not act.

- No explanations are received and will not be received, because the social security agencies, guardianship agencies are municipal bodies, these are very low-level officials. I met with them in the case of Inga Rantala and Robert Rantala when we managed to create a precedent, and Roberta was returned under our pressure. But I was impressed by the meeting with these workers: the 4 worker who met with me, not seeing the child, the mother, not talking to them, not studying the living conditions, simply signed in absentia the act of withdrawing the child and deprivation of parental rights. For me, as a lawyer, this is crazy. How can you write that the child is not created proper conditions for life when they were not even in the family, in the apartment? I was there and saw his conditions: he has a separate room and so on. How can Anastasia Zavgorodnaya be deprived of her parental rights, indicating as a reason that the mother is tired and does not cope with four children and does not trust the guardianship authorities? Is this a reason for withdrawal? So you can generally 90 percent of Finnish mothers deprive of parental rights. But this is complete madness.
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  1. volcano
    volcano 24 January 2013 08: 24
    19
    Finns have completely lost their fear. It's time to react harshly. Let Putin intervene in the situation. This is some kind of nonsense. Maybe it's time to threaten?
    1. older
      older 24 January 2013 08: 27
      14
      Quote: volkan
      Let Putin intervene in the situation.
      Stop talking, crush economically like cockroaches ... How much can you tolerate spitting on your own face
      1. Igor
        Igor 24 January 2013 08: 31
        18 th
        Quote: older
        Stop talking, crush economically like cockroaches ... How much can you tolerate spitting on your own face


        To push economically, you need to have a powerful economy, and Russia can only prohibit its citizens from traveling to Finland for normal and cheap products and forbid their citizens to pick strawberries from the Finns for 1500 a month))))
        1. подводник
          подводник 24 January 2013 09: 15
          +3
          And where such infa about strawberries ....
          I collected it myself ???
          Tell me about how hungry Russians demolish food collapses in Finland, only in more detail ...
          1. Igor
            Igor 24 January 2013 09: 27
            14 th
            Quote: submariner
            And where such infa about strawberries ....
            I collected it myself ???


            No, in Karelia there were a lot of people going to the Finns to pick strawberries, there, as well as for the whole MKAD, poverty and depressions.

            Quote: submariner
            Tell me about how hungry Russians demolish food collapses in Finland, only in more detail ...


            Google and the zombie creator to help you!
            1. подводник
              подводник 24 January 2013 09: 31
              +2
              Left the answer ....
              1. Igor
                Igor 24 January 2013 09: 52
                -4
                In which place?????
            2. domokl
              domokl 24 January 2013 10: 24
              0
              Quote: Igorek
              Google and the zombie creator to help you!
              Igor, it seems to me your pessimism is somewhat exaggerated .. In Russia there are a lot of sensible people .. And the zombie man is no different from the zombocomp or zombogazeta ...
              1. Igor
                Igor 24 January 2013 10: 52
                -3
                Quote: domokl
                Igor, it seems to me your pessimism is somewhat exaggerated .. In Russia there are a lot of sensible people .. And the zombie man is no different from the zombocomp or zombogazeta ...


                And what did I say that? What I saw is what I’m saying, because they didn’t invent it in the Washington regional committee or hamsters with a marsh.
            3. Vanek
              Vanek 24 January 2013 11: 17
              0
              Quote: Igorek
              there, as well as beyond the whole MKAD, poverty and depressed people.


              Remove IT for yourself !!!

              And then, how do you know? You and the flag is not ours.
              1. Igor
                Igor 24 January 2013 11: 22
                0
                Quote: Vanek
                Remove IT for yourself !!!


                They don’t take offense at the truth.

                Quote: Vanek
                And then, how do you know? You and the flag is not ours.


                But our passport)))
                1. Vanek
                  Vanek 24 January 2013 11: 35
                  +4
                  Quote: Igorek
                  They don’t take offense at the truth.


                  WHAT THE TRUTH ???

                  I live in Novosibirsk! You, there, in Moscow, are also beyond Moscow for me !!!!
                  1. alexng
                    alexng 24 January 2013 12: 59
                    +6
                    Class !! Moscow glamorous reservation. It remains to separate them with barbed wire and not let them into Russia. A joke, of course. But every joke has a fraction of a joke.
                    1. подводник
                      подводник 24 January 2013 15: 42
                      +1
                      alexneg

                      Man, you can’t imagine how you are right !!!
                      Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye !!!
                  2. Igor
                    Igor 24 January 2013 13: 33
                    -1
                    Quote: Vanek
                    You, there, in Moscow, are also beyond Moscow for me !!!!


                    Your shot obviously went into milk))))
                    1. Vanek
                      Vanek 24 January 2013 14: 01
                      0
                      Quote: Igorek
                      Your shot clearly went into milk


                      That I look splattered everything.

                      Quote: Igorek
                      there, as well as beyond the whole MKAD, poverty and depressed people.


                      Quote: Igorek
                      But our passport)))


                      Purchased?
                    2. Susanin
                      Susanin 24 January 2013 14: 18
                      +2
                      Igor, all of Russia beyond the MKAD is mostly. Glamorous people are not much interested in it. People here are simpler and more reliable.
                      1. Vanek
                        Vanek 24 January 2013 14: 28
                        0
                        Quote: Susanin
                        Glamorous people are not much interested in it. People here are simpler and more reliable.


                        good Beautifully said yes
                2. vorobey
                  vorobey 24 January 2013 15: 04
                  +2
                  Quote: Igorek
                  But our passport)))


                  if they’re beaten not according to their passport.
                  1. Igor
                    Igor 24 January 2013 15: 36
                    +1
                    Quote: vorobey
                    if they’re beaten not according to their passport.


                    Come, give the address?
                    1. vorobey
                      vorobey 24 January 2013 17: 23
                      +3
                      Quote: Igorek
                      Come, give the address?


                      Pick strawberries? I have something to do.

                      do not blow into the arc dear. here we were talking about children. you are some kind of rainbow on the avatar.

                      What else is ours besides a passport?
                      1. Igor
                        Igor 24 January 2013 18: 09
                        -3
                        Quote: vorobey
                        Pick strawberries?


                        You don’t read your posts at all before posting.

                        Quote: vorobey
                        do not blow into the arc dear. here we were talking about children.



                        Quote: vorobey
                        if they’re beaten not according to their passport.


                        So you threatened to beat the children, well then, sorry dear.

                        Quote: vorobey
                        you are some kind of rainbow on the avatar.


                        Do you know that it is forbidden to advertise alcoholic drinks on the Internet, and to lead a drunken lifestyle and to promote it is immoral?
                      2. подводник
                        подводник 24 January 2013 18: 40
                        0
                        Igor

                        And your answers are simply not the topic ...
                      3. Igor
                        Igor 24 January 2013 18: 45
                        0
                        What’s out of topic, I’m just saying that the government will be silent in a rag and it won’t go for economic measures, but then they immediately started talking about Muscovites, glamorous, rainbow-colored, passports and flags.
                      4. подводник
                        подводник 24 January 2013 20: 17
                        0
                        Igor

                        In this I completely and completely agree with you!
                      5. Vanek
                        Vanek 25 January 2013 05: 40
                        0
                        Quote: Igorek
                        and then they started right away


                        Of course I'm sorry, but it all started with:

                        Quote: Igorek
                        there, as well as beyond the whole MKAD, poverty and depressed people.
      2. Oleg14774
        Oleg14774 24 January 2013 12: 30
        +2
        So the Finns go to us for a drink and get drunk. What does simple Finns and simple Russian and corrupt Finnish politicians have to do with it? As if we have few of our own. We will not ignite the nationality! This is a challenge to the Russian government, but not as ordinary Russians! In general, it’s better not to hang around abroad now. We ourselves have a place to go. The same Baikal, Urals, Karelia, the North Caucasus (Stavropol Territory, Krasnodar). What to look for on ... adventures!?
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 24 January 2013 13: 27
          +1
          Quote: Oleg147741
          So the Finns go to us for a drink and get drunk.

          Here's how to stop letting them go for a drink, and the situation with the children will get better.
          And according to this article - daddy does not work, lives on welfare, but corny he sold his children to his state! And to warn everyone who is going to go there with their children, at least a few days before departure, at least at the border, that there might be such a situation. Finns are also hard to see with childbirth, because they simply steal children without any adoption.
      3. Raiven
        Raiven 27 January 2013 15: 38
        0
        lies, relatives came to us and everything they have there is ok. Only our milk is drunk for a sweet soul
  2. older
    older 24 January 2013 09: 16
    +9
    Quote: Igorek
    To push economically you need to have a powerful economy,
    Russia can do without Finnish goods now without much damage to itself ... Call me goods from Finland that we cannot replace with others .. There are none .. But for a small country, losing such a market is a serious blow ...
    1. Igor
      Igor 24 January 2013 09: 28
      -9
      Quote: older
      But for a small country, losing such a market is a serious blow ...


      Well, enter, you will immediately receive sanctions from the WTO, so dream of sanctions elsewhere)))
      1. domokl
        domokl 24 January 2013 10: 26
        +1
        Quote: Igorek
        you’ll immediately receive sanctions from the WTO,
        The threat is serious ... Only any law has a lot of exceptions and competent lawyers know this ...
        1. Igor
          Igor 24 January 2013 10: 43
          -4
          Quote: domokl
          Only any law has a lot of exceptions and competent lawyers know this ...


          Something I doubt that there are exceptions like "They took our children away from us and therefore we imposed sanctions", and pretexts like palm oil was found in their products or some bacteria will not pass tea not Ukraine, and to impose sanctions on our officials it is like putting a noose around your neck, in Europe they will quickly adopt the Magnitsky law, etc., and you can't rattle about with weapons, since NATO will have a new member with a missile defense system.
      2. Alexei-
        Alexei- 24 January 2013 10: 32
        +1
        what are the sanctions from the WTO ???? What settled down comfortably on the toilet and decided to drive off nonsense? Googly, the boy didn’t disgrace (what about strawberries, the economy, the products).
      3. vaddy72
        vaddy72 24 January 2013 13: 29
        0
        You got already, Finnolyub ... or Russophobe?
        1. Igor
          Igor 24 January 2013 15: 09
          0
          Quote: vaddy72
          You got already, Finnolyub ... or Russophobe?


          No, I just explained to the patriots why the government and the president would be silent in a rag and sit on the priest exactly.
    2. domokl
      domokl 24 January 2013 10: 22
      0
      Quote: older
      Russia can do without Finnish goods
      It’s logical, but with one but .. You need to get around the WTO .. ​​We are like members laughing
      1. BARKAS
        BARKAS 24 January 2013 12: 06
        +1
        It’s quite possible to get around the WTO, for example, to find a pest in a strawberry or a bacterium, whatever else, until more than one month is taken smile
  3. baron.nn
    baron.nn 24 January 2013 16: 06
    +1
    Igor:
    It is enough to block the export of Russian wood and the tourist flow to them so that they howl!
    1. Igor
      Igor 24 January 2013 17: 03
      0
      Quote: baron.nn
      It is enough to block the export of Russian wood and the tourist flow to them so that they howl!


      It is possible, but nobody really will take this step, one must be realistic.
    2. A. Yaga
      A. Yaga 24 January 2013 19: 28
      0
      good
      Quote: baron.nn
      It is enough to block the export of Russian wood and the tourist flow to them so that they howl!
      good
      and howl well. They have all the factories and plants stop, as it was thanks to Putin.
  • Alx1miK
    Alx1miK 24 January 2013 09: 12
    10
    Quote: older
    Stop talking, crush economically like cockroaches

    ++ Close Finland for tourists - and the Finnish economy will go to hell. Russo-tourists brought to Finland in 2012 about 1 billion green. How nice to bark at a bear, having the Yankees behind.
  • baron.nn
    baron.nn 24 January 2013 16: 05
    0
    older:
    Economic pressure can last for years and never lead to anything! Exercises off the coast of Finland will surely cool their ardor!
  • Crescent
    Crescent 24 January 2013 08: 37
    +3
    The Finnish authorities took from the Russian woman Svetlana Karelina two children who came on a tourist visa to their father living in Finland.
    Quote: volkan
    Maybe it's time to threaten?
    The problem of Russians, as a people, and Russia, as a country, lies in your question. Maybe threaten? No need to doubt, no need to threaten (favorite fun to score arrows), we must defend our citizens! In all available ways. And what kind, then let Putin decide, as President and guarantor.
    1. volcano
      volcano 24 January 2013 09: 16
      +1
      Quote: Crescent
      No need to doubt, no need to threaten (favorite fun to score arrows), we must defend our citizens! In all available ways.


      But is not our Foreign Ministry and others trying to do this? Only Finns stupidly don’t even want to talk ... How can you defend something if YOU DO NOT EVEN TALK WITH YOU?

      And as for all available methods ..... so the threat is the accessible method for everyone. And I’m not saying that it is necessary to threaten the Army .... To threaten is to change the tonality from asking to threatening.
      But you can threaten a lot with anything, economic ties, freedom of change and entry into Russia, political issues .... in general, a lot of things.
      1. Crescent
        Crescent 24 January 2013 09: 23
        +3
        Quote: volkan
        But you can threaten a lot with anything, economic ties, freedom of change and entry into Russia, political issues .... in general, a lot of things.
        I in the post Above outlined my opinion, and to see it was not quite correctly arguing for it - you did not understand me. Do not doubt, do not threaten anyone !!!! We must act! Act and act again! Do they act? They act, they know that apart from threats there will be nothing, if they knew that immediate action would follow - there would be no such arbitrariness against Russian citizens.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 January 2013 09: 26
        +4
        Quote: volkan

        But is not our Foreign Ministry and others trying to do this?

        Hi Andrei, if Mead bumped into the wall, it means that it’s not the Ministry of Foreign Affairs that is needed here, but the tough answers of the whole state as a whole, in all directions.
        1. volcano
          volcano 24 January 2013 10: 01
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Hi Andrei, if Mead bumped into the wall, it means that it’s not the Ministry of Foreign Affairs that is needed here, but the tough answers of the whole state as a whole, in all directions.


          Kind Alexander

          I agree. But our leadership always puts "Good Neighborhood" at the forefront, even despite the fact that the "neighbor" begins to openly shit in the corners. For some reason we always perceive such things as a misunderstanding. And we try to "persuade" the other side to stop hooliganism. And it is necessary to weigh a good cuff, so that he would stop hooliganism now, and for the future .... how he wants to "hooligan" immediately recalled how sparks fell from his eyes.
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 24 January 2013 08: 38
    10
    I crap dear edition. Putin, State Duma AU, where are you all? When the answer to the Magnitsky law was needed, they immediately remembered the children. When the tough answers will go against the Finns. The toughest sanctions need to be imposed, up to the severance of all relations with them. Even words are not enough, this is the finish. Now I watched the news on TV, silence .....................
    And our women are damn, well, they’re fools. See what happens, what kind of banana you eat there with the children.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 24 January 2013 08: 43
      +6
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Putin, State Duma AU, where are you all?

      Sasha, in Davos, in the Canaries, Hawaii. The Finnish authorities do not take their children away ..
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 January 2013 08: 56
        +4
        Quote: Tersky
        , in Davos, Canaries, Hawaii

        not what economic interests cannot be more important than the fate of children !!! By davos they climb, what respect will be for a country that cannot protect its own children from juvenile coves.
    2. older
      older 24 January 2013 09: 20
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      AU, where are you all?
      Well, for a regular visitor, the question is, to put it mildly, weak ... We, including here, are also .. And we express our attitude and our emotions ... The authorities also look and read .. Public opinion has not been canceled yet ... The Internet does more than stomping near the Duma building with a poster ...
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 January 2013 09: 33
        +2
        Quote: older
        Well, for a regular observer, the question is, to put it mildly, weak ... We, including here, are

        Yes, I do not want to belay I see you, but the authorities are silent and I don’t see it moving for many years in relation to Finnish lawlessness.
        Quote: older
        . Public opinion has not yet been canceled.

        It took public opinion five years for Serdyukov to be dismissed, and only after a grandiose schukher, the authorities did not care about public opinion before the Magnitsky act, but then they put an end to it in a few days. Where is this power now?
        Quote: older
        .. The Internet does more than trampling near the Duma building with a poster ...

        Print 100 to the Duma and on all TV channels, they will talk about reciprocal steps to Finland. What about the Internet? Millions are now online and watering Finov and the government — what has changed after the previous case with the selection of children? New children were taken, applaud further.
        1. domokl
          domokl 24 January 2013 10: 29
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          I see you, but the government is silent and I do not see it moving for many years in relation to the Finnish lawlessness
          Alas, I don’t see either ... I hear a chatter from Ostakhov, I see some aunts on the TV ... And real actions ...
          But about the Internet, I think you are still wrong ... I recall a letter from a review .. The authorities heard it ...
    3. Bezarius
      Bezarius 24 January 2013 13: 47
      +1
      They are dead, they need to set an ultimatum for them, or they will return the children, or war. The US does not infrequently invade other states under the pretext of protecting its citizens, it would be time for us to protect our citizens.
  • Mitek
    Mitek 24 January 2013 08: 55
    +4
    ONLY the fiercest answer. Sanctions, expulsion of the ambassador, termination of all relations, closure of the border. Previously, children had dual citizenship, but now Russian. Nothing but an abduction can be called. Israel because of one corporal, the entire Gaza Strip set cancer !!! And then the CHILDREN steal!
    When the fucking bureaucrats were banned from entering America, they immediately answered, but here ... These are the things that undermine the prestige of the state and government.
    I wonder where the white tape "protectors of children" are ?!
    1. подводник
      подводник 24 January 2013 09: 23
      +1
      Our authorities will not do anything out of all of the above ...
      The gut is thin ..
    2. Armata
      Armata 24 January 2013 09: 45
      +3
      Quote: Mitek
      Sanctions, expulsion of the ambassador, termination of all relations, closure of the border.
      Russia and Finland have very close business contacts. So the fact that you have listed even no question, it can interfere with a small number of people with big wallets.
    3. volcano
      volcano 24 January 2013 10: 11
      +4
      Quote: Mitek
      Israel because of one corporal, the entire Gaza Strip set cancer


      therefore, he stated that no one is considered the Gaza Strip in the world. He would try to put some kind of European country. Or India for example.
      He himself would have been wrapped in this uncomfortable position.
      1. atalef
        atalef 24 January 2013 10: 13
        +2
        Quote: volkan
        therefore, he stated that no one is considered the Gaza Strip in the world

        Well, only touch, howling around the world is
        Quote: volkan
        he would try to put some kind of European country. Or India for example.

        What for? Are they stealing our soldiers?
        1. volcano
          volcano 24 January 2013 10: 35
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          Well, only touch, howling around the world is


          oh well .. Is this a howl? The Gaza Strip in the West is a thorn in the eye.




          Quote: atalef
          What for? Are they stealing our soldiers?


          Well, even if they had stolen? then what? the Israelites would go out and that’s all.
          Finland is a small country, but the EU is for it ... and our problem is that while aggravating relations with Finland we run into aggravation of relations with the EU. And this should be understood only in this context. And here comes the conclusion. Is our leadership ready to aggravate relations with the EU? What does it put above? The fate of their citizens or ..... ?????

          Honestly .... I would aggravate .... enduring this is IMPOSSIBLE. It’s time to lay down all the bolts and pursue our policy.
          And even if we react harshly to this situation, and the EU begins to put sticks in our wheels, I think people will understand, even if it will harm anyone.
          people want to see how the country's leadership protects its citizens. This is the main thing. And the consequences ..... well, you won’t scare us with consequences.
          1. Dima67
            Dima67 24 January 2013 11: 23
            0
            Honestly .... I would aggravate .... enduring this is IMPOSSIBLE. It’s time to lay down all the bolts and pursue our policy. Bravo. But we already once hit a bolt in Europe and got the second world war. It's time to show your teeth.
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 24 January 2013 13: 32
              +2
              Quote: Dima67
              It's time to show your teeth.

              It’s interesting, (purely theoretically) could one send a special forces group there with the task of finding and taking out Russian children? And then let them prove that someone from Russia stole them!
    4. Normal
      Normal 24 January 2013 10: 47
      0
      Quote: Mitek
      I wonder where the white tape "protectors of children" are ?!

      The most active petrels under investigation are known. They simply participated, under pain of persecution under the new laws on countering extremism and on rallies.
      But where is 100000 of thousands of supporters of GDP with a bow? Where are the actions of the authorities to protect their citizens?
  • YARY
    YARY 24 January 2013 09: 23
    +8
    Children are citizens of Russia this time
    AND EVERYTHING!

    Primarily only this! If you do not react harshly,to detain all the Finns who are in our territory as hostages !!!
    Let me say that! They abducted our citizens! This is state kidnapping! If you give yourself to kick all sorts of pugs, then some respect for! Damn it covered me!
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 24 January 2013 10: 21
      +2
      YARY,
      Normally covered! smile
      As an option, it fits! (Fantastic)
      But seriously, a NOTA to the embassy with wide media coverage.
      Sanitary barriers. Customs toughening. zak-va. Yes, there would be a desire among deputies and a sober head, otherwise they can’t move away from narcissism and vacation!
      Are there narcologists on the site who treat long drinking bouts !? angry
      1. Normal
        Normal 24 January 2013 10: 55
        +3
        Quote: sergo0000
        But seriously, a NOTA to the embassy with wide media coverage.
        Sanitary barriers. Customs toughening. zak-va.

        And also a demonstration of readiness to protect their citizens by any means, up to the military.
        Conducting major land and naval exercises near the Finnish borders with the transfer of airborne divisions. Theme of the exercises: Release of hostages and protection of Russian citizens on pirate territory
        1. zanoza
          zanoza 24 January 2013 12: 29
          +1
          To ban Finnish citizens refuel at our gas stations, and this is 80% of customers of border gas stations, to deprive VODKI(1l) cigarettes(block in bulk) Pepsi and cola in 1,5 l beer "Baltika" - and they will begin to exchange TAPPED Russian children for these goods
      2. YARY
        YARY 24 January 2013 15: 10
        0
        Sergei
        Are there narcologists on the site who treat long drinking bouts !?

        But I pour in and "Squirrel" drive away!
  • snik57
    snik57 24 January 2013 11: 23
    +3
    Can you try next time to come for our children in tanks? wink (according to Zhvanetsky)
  • baron.nn
    baron.nn 24 January 2013 16: 04
    +1
    volkan:
    It is time to react in the most severe way, right up to going ships to their borders with exercises !!! Children are our future, no one is allowed to take them away from their mother, especially to some foreigners !!!
  • Kite
    Kite 24 January 2013 20: 52
    0
    The Finns have their own idiot, but, what ....., mother, after the divorce and after many voiced incidents in Finland, drove the children there ??? Inexplicable, incomprehensible feminine logic or transcendent fool ?!
  • nerd.su
    nerd.su 25 January 2013 16: 01
    0
    Here, I think, the economic interests of St. Petersburg friends ... Otherwise, everything would have been decided long ago - to ban the sale of roundwood to the Finns, to close the border, to recall the ambassador ... St. Petersburg, of course, will be outraged, as it is impossible to Finland! Tolerate! But dreams, dreams ... You can’t offend friends of businessmen and lose the St. Petersburg electorate!
  • Vanek
    Vanek 24 January 2013 08: 25
    +5
    but just children, citizens of Russia, who came on a tourist visa to Finland

    This is already - RAPTURE !!! And none of you will prove the opposite to me !!! Abduction and period.

    I read it a couple of hours ago, they say my mother stole documents from my apartment, including my birth certificate.
    1. older
      older 24 January 2013 08: 29
      +5
      Quote: Vanek
      I read it a couple of hours ago, they say my mother stole documents from my apartment, including my birth certificate.
      After being taken out in the trunk, it was necessary to scream .. Now we need to decide at the presidential level .. Or they will return or stop communication ... Stiffness and even cruelty will stop .. For the rest, the Finns wanted to spit, including the EU .. .
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 24 January 2013 08: 35
        +1
        Quote: older
        .Or return or stop communication ..


        First, return, then close the borders, cancel visas, sanctions, embargoes there are all sorts.
        1. BARKAS
          BARKAS 24 January 2013 10: 24
          0
          In such cases, the first reaction of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs should be a warning to citizens of the country to refrain from visiting Finland and then other appropriate measures!
  • older
    older 24 January 2013 08: 25
    +4
    Mother of God in the soul ... are we already throwing our guys away? Why then all this service, if you put a microbe like Finland on Russia and doesn’t think of explaining anything and returning the children? Anger and direct question to Astakhov-What are you, dear Do you need an advocate at all?
    1. domokl
      domokl 24 January 2013 10: 31
      0
      Quote: older
      -What kind of you, dear advocate do you need?

      fellow Well, it’s kind of protecting ... But it’s not really working out like that ... It turns out saying, answering questions, but what’s the matter ... Probably you need to appoint a digger to this position .. So that I couldn’t speak, but digging like a tractor
  • Igor
    Igor 24 January 2013 08: 25
    0
    With their charter, you don’t need to go to the Finns, otherwise they will quickly show who the boss is in the house and how to raise children, like the Belarusians. Is it interesting that the bucket will ban the Finns from adopting Russian children or will they wait until their accounts are arrested and they will not be allowed to enter Finland?) )))
  • bairat
    bairat 24 January 2013 08: 28
    +7
    I remember recently trying to stop the export of round timber to Finnish, build timber processing plants and trade already processed wood, then Finnish officials ran into Moscow offices. Then they got their way, and we trade round, but the pain point is determined, and there you need to push. And all sorts of blah blah from astakhov and deputies with angry condemnation is just a shock of air.
    1. Igor
      Igor 24 January 2013 08: 34
      -2
      But there was no need to break into the WTO, so you won’t play with the question of round timber.
      1. domokl
        domokl 24 January 2013 10: 33
        +3
        Probably the situation with the forest is not so much the situation with the WTO as with the venality of our officials ...
  • krasin
    krasin 24 January 2013 08: 29
    0
    It would be necessary for our people to somehow move, how much more will their mothers have brains to soar. So the Finnish guys are kind of normal, but in this regard we need to fix them obsessively, and if it doesn’t reach, we can manage to find it. We have good economic relations .
  • Apollo
    Apollo 24 January 2013 08: 34
    +5
    I do not understand the position of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the diplomatic and consular services of the Russian Federation in terms of inaction. Why there is still no note of protest in connection with the arbitrariness of the Finnish authorities. Why no decisive action is taken in this regard, I would have looked if the Finnish authorities had taken away the American children . Russia has enough resources and leverage over the Finnish authorities.
    1. urry79rus
      urry79rus 24 January 2013 08: 52
      0
      I agree! Baykot Chuhnsky GOODS !!!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 January 2013 08: 59
      +1
      Quote: Apollon
      Russia has enough resources and leverage to influence the Finnish authorities

      Hi Apollo! There are levers, but we need the will and respect and love of our government for our own people who have delivered them. While the game is one-goal.
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 24 January 2013 09: 13
        +2
        I welcome you Alexander hi !

        In my opinion, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is waiting for a command from above, although in such situations it is necessary to react promptly and harshly, then it will be useless. Apparently I believe that there are more important things to do. And these issues are not so archival, this seems to me and explains the approach to these issues.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 January 2013 09: 35
          +1
          Quote: Apollon

          In my opinion, the Foreign Ministry is waiting for a command from above, although in such situations, it is necessary to respond promptly and harshly, then there will be sense.

          Apollo, how much time has passed since the past history? These are our operational measures and, in fact, nothing has been done !!!
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 24 January 2013 09: 52
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Apollo, how much time has passed since the past history? These are our operational measures and, in fact, nothing has been done !!!


            Enough time has passed. But the Foreign Ministry is not responding, Apparently it does not consider it a priority for itself. Although it should be the first one, we are talking about Russian citizens. Due to the fact that the Russian Foreign Ministry does not respond in a timely manner, the Finnish authorities are getting more impudent.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 24 January 2013 10: 05
              +2
              Quote: Apollon
              Enough time has passed.

              Only two months passed and here is a new miscarriage. This suggests that the Finns put a bolt on both our Foreign Ministry and Russia as a whole. Otherwise, everything is as follows, the Mechanic above outlined the priorities of individuals with tight wallets hi
  • lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 24 January 2013 08: 35
    +1
    And this is already similar to kinding, elevated to the rank of state policy, and urgent measures must be taken, starting with economic sanctions, right up to special operations to free hostages.
  • Tatarus
    Tatarus 24 January 2013 08: 45
    +3
    Xinland back to Russia. Finns in Siberia weed taiga. The Suomis were not quite full term.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 January 2013 09: 00
      +2
      Quote: Tatarus
      Finns in Siberia taiga weave

      Why are they in Siberia, there is a wonderful place New Earth, here let them multiply.
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 24 January 2013 11: 49
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        there is a wonderful place New Earth,

        Sasha No. , there our military base is reborn, on their ice floe, high drift .. wink
  • Ppsh
    Ppsh 24 January 2013 08: 48
    +3
    The counter-terrorist operation against the abductors of Russian citizens in Finland is gaining relevance ...
  • urry79rus
    urry79rus 24 January 2013 08: 51
    +6
    Once again, the Finns spat in the face of Russia. By inflating our cheeks, let's say what kind of creatures they are, that they are creating genocide with our children, according to Astakhov, and this will be the end. By the way, nothing to marry abroad to run. and then our ladies in the united Europe wanted ... BOLT TO YOU IN THE WHOLE Muzzle! How many years this gimmick lasts with Russian children around the world, and things are still there. so girls are unnecessary for you European values, marry Russians and give birth boldly, they definitely will not give children to the finals.
  • Vespasian
    Vespasian 24 January 2013 09: 00
    +1
    And then one decision "GIVE A BOYCOTT OF FINNISH GOODS" will be really tangible for them and involve public organizations in this for holding public events, so they will see "civil society institutions".
  • SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM 24 January 2013 09: 09
    0
    The article directly states that there was an agreement corresponding before the collapse of the USSR
    Well, then when We weakened, they assfucked and relaxed.
    It’s time to remind them who is in charge of the house. angry
  • Awards
    Awards 24 January 2013 09: 11
    +1
    Well, have they already abducted Russian citizens, but Putin is silent, does not intervene, is he with them for one thing, or is he afraid? Or maybe he didn’t have time to think about the Russian people, how many more amphoras have not been lifted from the bottom of the sea, how many hang-glider planes are unarmed? How much can such bullying be tolerated?
  • igor36
    igor36 24 January 2013 09: 12
    +2
    Why are the diplomats silent? Two citizens of the Russian Federation are detained on the territory of a foreign state, violation of Article 21 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, a diplomatic note, to return the children at 24 hours, if there is no close border, send an ambassador to hell. Merikos would have already brought the aircraft carrier to shore. What is Kronstadt far from Helsinki?
  • Bombowoz
    Bombowoz 24 January 2013 09: 24
    +7
    Pancake! Finov in the Peter Sea rides for a walk, to have a drink. He grabbed one of these two and falsified the espionage case (which we can do) and it doesn’t matter in whose favor or accused of pedophilia. Well, he was drunk, he doesn’t remember. And so every time. They themselves will resort to us at the state level and will agree on our terms. You look at all the kids and exchange. And our prison is not theirs. With the forest, the same option. While they are messing around, and we are all under the law, so what Europe will say with its formal statements of protest, that’s how it will be. A breakup is possible, but then I’m afraid our children will remain there. At least carry out special operations to abduct your own children with the involvement of special services.
    1. AnpeL
      AnpeL 24 January 2013 09: 28
      +1
      Bombowoz,
      rather to free your own children
    2. vorobey
      vorobey 24 January 2013 09: 40
      +4
      Quote: Bombowoz
      Hvatanul of such one two and falsified


      radically, but I like it.

    3. dmitreach
      dmitreach 24 January 2013 11: 34
      +3
      Why espionage? They will become heroes at home. But for the rape of an "underage", and the smuggling of drugs on an especially large scale .... The special services have a field for training on dates. Perhaps, where else experience will be needed ...
  • подводник
    подводник 24 January 2013 09: 29
    +1
    Yeah ...
    Some Chukhons again the Russian authorities put cancer ...

    "... Yes, there were people in our time, not like the current tribe ..." (not I said, but a classic)
  • _Igor_
    _Igor_ 24 January 2013 09: 29
    +1
    it is quite possible to respond to these actions of local authorities and the central inaction of Finland by a special operation))))
    abduction and detention of citizens of the Russian Federation against their will
  • shasherin_pavel
    shasherin_pavel 24 January 2013 09: 46
    0
    The expansion of juvenile justice has begun, which we want to accept. It is enough just not to indicate in the article of the law which children and which citizens can be taken away, and then this article will begin to apply to all children in the country. After all, they planted our mothers in America because they hit the child in the pope for not obeying witnesses. Now the patch on the pants will be an occasion for the Finns to take our children from their parents - tourists. And if we still accept juvenile justice at our place, then it’s absolutely amba! A very good idea to abandon Finnish goods is to boycott Finnish goods. Here, no authorities with their prostitutional political mood will be able to resist the people's will. Administrators will not be able to buy all Finnish goods in support of relations!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 24 January 2013 13: 40
      +1
      Quote: shasherin.pavel
      declare a boycott of Finnish-made goods.

      And the main thing is to announce this to the Finns! And so that this is done by public organizations. Then the Russian Federation can not be blamed for non-compliance with the rules of the WTO, and the Finns will receive .... The people wanted, but you can’t argue against the people!
  • подводник
    подводник 24 January 2013 09: 46
    +1
    As long as the Russians will seek to marry foreigners, or look for a new place of residence for themselves and their children abroad, until then there will be such a problem!
    1. vadimN
      vadimN 24 January 2013 11: 02
      +1
      Quote: submariner
      As long as the Russians will seek to marry foreigners, or look for a new place of residence for themselves and their children abroad, until then there will be such a problem!


      Well, so here is the question for our authorities. If they are not able to protect the rights of a Russian citizen abroad, then it should be declared to the whole world, and first of all to Russian women: marry anyone and go with your husbands wherever you go, but know that our state is shaky, corrupt and will not be able and will not protect you in case of any divorces .... So let them think before hurrying to marry any Finns ...
  • deo75
    deo75 24 January 2013 09: 52
    -1
    In this case, it is necessary to strictly defend the interests of children, since they are citizens of Russia, not Finland. The Finns had no right to control their fate. It's time to impose tough sanctions on Finland.
    But when suddenly all the media, politicians and Astakhov, including, suddenly start to worry hard about the interests of those who immigrated from Russia, generally live abroad happily and would like to spit on their historic homeland-Russia (mostly women who left to marry foreigners and their children) - this really doesn’t climb into any gates! With such zeal they would be better off taking care of Russian citizens living in Russia! However, no! Let them say they quietly bend over, and we’d better blow the trumpeters about the violation of the rights of outsiders and I’m not afraid of this word of strangers for Russia! And we will import and export all ballast (Syria, Palestine, etc.) by planes!
    1. подводник
      подводник 24 January 2013 09: 56
      +1
      It turns out that the father of these children is Russian, who received Finnish citizenship ...
      How do you like such a turn ....
  • srha
    srha 24 January 2013 10: 01
    0
    In the "list" of them ...
  • Denis
    Denis 24 January 2013 10: 03
    +1
    In no case I do not want to say that these topics are not needed, but where does such media companionship come from? It’s like waves, as if these problems didn’t exist before and then they disappear. How much information suddenly appeared about the separation of children in the families of our citizens and foreigners, then about the bullying of children adopted by foreigners? It was ugly like that, it became fashionable, as on a command they began to fumble, then they just as unanimously forgot.
    1. dmitreach
      dmitreach 24 January 2013 11: 40
      +1
      About the children do not agree. They have been talking for years. Now in France, then in Finland, problems with the division of children ... And in all cases - Russian mothers.
      I, as a sinful matter, a conspiracy thesis was born that the media, as it were, hinted: do not go to the finals, support the domestic producer! Nefig seek happiness beyond the sea, there is no homeland. There are problems.
  • Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 24 January 2013 10: 10
    0
    Whores brazenly climb into the wives of foreigners, and then strive to use them to improve their financial condition, and those also do not miss their own and who will understand them, who is right.
    And our Foreign Ministry officials need to move their pants faster.
    When it comes to the citizens of Russia, one must always take their side and defend their rights without embarrassment.
    It happened, damn it, some wild Chukhons do not put Russia pennilessly.
  • Horde
    Horde 24 January 2013 10: 20
    0
    oh you fish blood, that’s what nobody in Russia has come to ... you don’t put such a small bastard as the Finns, but what’s the army for us, just cut the loot? Conduct large-scale exercises on the border, and if you want to arrange a second winter war with the subsequent annexation of half of the territory. Putin, let's act president ... b.
  • Karpv
    Karpv 24 January 2013 10: 30
    +1
    We also want to do this. I at Vkontakte gave links to articles, I will post them here. http://www.sdelanounih.ru/yuvenalnaya-yusticiya-na-zapade/#more-4079 http://via-midgard.info/news/in_russia/kto-stoit-za-yuvenalnym-adom.htm http: / /rusplt.ru/articles/social/social_1215.html And a video clip in addition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EG4owLLFBw
  • vedruss
    vedruss 24 January 2013 10: 43
    +1
    Yes, they are trolling us!
    They do not respect.
    This is the policy of their state ...
    Citizens of the Russian Federation have been stolen!
    This is an occasion for war and large indemnities - very large.
    The rejection of their territory in our favor - for one restore historical justice.
    1. Dima67
      Dima67 24 January 2013 11: 35
      +2
      If this time too they do nothing to protect their citizens, then we will read the zvezdyts. Our people do not need sovereigns.
    2. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 24 January 2013 13: 52
      +1
      The war is too much, and the landing of air and sea landing and special forces raids to protect Russian citizens, with the support of long-range artillery, could be demonstrated. As it is customary for the Yusovites.
      We fell down to earth from heaven
      Not the last and not the first time
      Where diplomacy crap one's pants
      Special forces begins to atrocity.

      And then damn it to all the ghouls, give the Russian children the Ides, the paddles, the Yankees, and now it’s chukhna.
  • Law
    Law 24 January 2013 11: 10
    0
    Here you need to act cunningly and smartly!
    since the Finns do everything secretly and silently, firstly we need to establish all the locations of our children through our consuls, then we need to shut off oxygen to all Finnish companies in Russia without exception, and there are a lot of them and they themselves will force their government to give away Russian children, because we We know that business is money, and they don’t want to lose it.
    And most importantly, that our words do not diverge from the deed, otherwise we will lose our authority and respect.
    PS Do you know why they are buried in Russian children, because our most intelligent and talented, let them keep Chinese children at home, I think China would be happy, and even sent a couple of cars to them :)
  • Dart weyder
    Dart weyder 24 January 2013 11: 17
    0
    then Finns, then the Baltic states, Romanians ..... - until some are normally squeezed ... at least - in the same place and in the same place - others will not stop barking, and if after such spitting they flirt with them smiling - then any mongrel will yap .... no matter what the USS are geopolitical and geostrategic enemies - I can imagine that some Ecuador or even Finland had approved such a thing ... I’m already silent about repeatedly .... there would be democracy brought, and something else ...
  • andrey777
    andrey777 24 January 2013 11: 19
    +2
    Something recently, many countries want to pick up our children. You can’t give away your property under any circumstances (neither land was increased by us, nor children because it is our future). stop
  • zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 24 January 2013 11: 33
    +2
    on the one hand, the Finns are simply insolent and they need to be put in place, moreover in a hardened form. to cut the dough? if the children wanted to see their father - he could come by himself (especially since he doesn’t work) At the expense of juvenile law - what’s better with us? in the same way, they take their children from their parents and send them to their children at home — is it not enough in Russia?
  • djon3volta
    djon3volta 24 January 2013 11: 37
    0
    They generally have strange laws! For example, police in winter have the right to look at women under their skirts and check if they are warmly dressed! So that the reproductive organs do not suffer from frost! ...))
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 24 January 2013 13: 44
      0
      Quote: djon3volta
      For example, police in winter have the right to look at women under their skirts and check if they are warmly dressed! So that the reproductive organs do not suffer from frost! ...)

      Well, probably the police used this right so often that the Finnish women did freeze everything! request
  • sergeybulkin
    sergeybulkin 24 January 2013 11: 39
    0
    The Finns wanted to spit on all our protests, notes, etc. This is from the series "and Vaska listens and eats." They are well aware that international institutions will not do anything to them anyway.
    Finland is not easy - a small country.
    Independent state since December 6, 1917.
    In 2010, the country was in first place in the list of "The world's best countries" according to Newsweek magazine, [8] and in 2012 it became "the most stable country in the world" according to the American Fund for Peace ". [9] In June 2012, Fitch Ratings assigned Finland the highest rating for long-term loans
    from wikipedia
  • valton
    valton 24 January 2013 11: 47
    0
    No self-respecting country would endure this outrage for so long. Where are the diplomats, where are the economic sanctions, where is the army finally?
    AUUU !!! Or maybe Russia is only in words reviving, a great power,
    but in fact, some show-off? Hey "doom" where are you ayuuu !!!!
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 24 January 2013 13: 30
      0
      Quote: valton
      Hey "doom" where are you ayuuu !!!!

      We won’t see them for a long time. After the adoption of the law by Dima Yakovlev, they were bursting with pride that they had drunk on joys of their own significance! Now they will leave the binge for another month!
  • itkul
    itkul 24 January 2013 12: 01
    0
    Quote: Igorek
    No, in Karelia there were a lot of people going to the Finns to pick strawberries, there, as well as for the whole MKAD, poverty and depressions.


    Alas, this is true, in Karelia everything is not so good, as indeed everywhere outside the Moscow Ring Road
    taken from here

    http://www.tv21.ru/news/2013/01/22/?newsid=53362

    The Minister of Economic Development of Karelia Valentin Chmil at a meeting where problems of the Kondopoga Pulp and Paper Mill were discussed, said:

    “... I am ready to do prostitution, whatever, just to fill the budget of the Republic of Karelia.
  • George
    George 24 January 2013 12: 16
    +1
    We have information that the Finnish juvenile justice system once again decided to isolate the children from the Russian mother and then de-Russify them, that is, isolate the children from Russia, the Russian language, Russian culture, and Russian mother’s quote.
    I have an analogy with the Janissaries: to take away children from their parents and instill their values. Or are Finns so trying to improve demography (amid growing homosexual sentiments in Europe) and improve their country's gene pool?
    In general, wars of this kind have always been undeclared. Guys are running up.
  • itkul
    itkul 24 January 2013 12: 25
    0
    Quote: valton
    No self-respecting country would endure this outrage for so long. Where are the diplomats, where are the economic sanctions, where is the army finally?


    Well, in general, when they pulled the Nord Stream gas pipe and the Finns did not seem to be allowed, it was enough to impose a ban on the export of unprocessed round timber from Russia and lo and behold, permission was received immediately
  • bubla5
    bubla5 24 January 2013 12: 27
    +1
    But the Finnish people live at the expense of our natural resources, and they protect their
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 24 January 2013 17: 48
      0
      There is nothing to protect from them; everything that is profitable for mining has been ravened for a long time.
      Capitalism does not recognize limitations.
  • Averias
    Averias 24 January 2013 13: 06
    +3
    "Father" of these children, by yay ... and hang on a lamppost. because of the allowance to do this. By the way, the Finns themselves admit that money is involved in the weaning of children. Since the benefits are not small there. And apparently, this "dad" to Finland for these purposes and unscrewed, so that later without working to live on child support. Inhuman, such must be hung.
  • Turkish Granite
    Turkish Granite 24 January 2013 13: 29
    0
    I agree with the opinion about the detention of a couple of Finns by the Ministry of Internal Affairs or the FPVS, and that they should be detained not just like that, but for any violation. The Finns also found a reason. Here are our northern "friends" in the bullpen, for example, for violating the rights of St. Petersburg pigeons with the notification of their consul. The consul will run to figure it out, howl will rise, and then the dialogue will improve, and they will want to negotiate, but they will not do it ...
  • APASUS
    APASUS 24 January 2013 13: 35
    0
    I worked in Finland and I can say that women do not think with their head at all !! The difference in mentality is like an abyss !! and what feelings can lead down the aisle I do not understand .............. besides the money of course!
    The Finns are not bad in themselves, but ours manage to find rare scumbags and moral freaks. Our madams also need to study the legislation of those countries where you are going to drape, otherwise all sorts of incidents turn out.
  • Region65
    Region65 24 January 2013 14: 07
    +1
    Isn’t it time to conquer all this half-country, bring the population ashore and push it into the sea and place Iskanders, Fuel, radar and a couple of tank divisions and air regiments on its territory?))))
  • DeerIvanovich
    DeerIvanovich 24 January 2013 14: 17
    +2
    read the comments, again, just to scratch his tongue ...
    I write again for the umpteenth time:
    really act - http://letters.kremlin.ru/
    send a message - must understand and give you an answer.
    The more messages on similar topics from different people, the more likely it is that the voice of the people will be heard.
    you have been given a real means of influencing the decision of the government, so what are you sitting here and blabla doing, sitting down and writing an appeal - at least there will be some sense
  • Apollo
    Apollo 24 January 2013 14: 32
    +1
    Finnish social authorities did not take away children from Russian Svetlana Karelina

    MOSCOW, 24 January. / ITAR-TASS /. The Russian Foreign Ministry denied the information that Finnish social authorities seized children from Russian citizen Svetlana Karelina.
    "The information that appeared in the media about the seizure of children by the Finnish social authorities has not been confirmed," the diplomatic agency's website said today. The father of the children, Sergei Timonen, assured the representatives of the Russian embassy in Finland that the children are currently living with him, the ministry said.
    "It seems to be about a family conflict. In November 2012, with the consent of Svetlana Karelina, the father took the children to Finland, promising, according to the mother, to return them, but he did not," the ministry said.
    The Russian Foreign Ministry expressed the hope that the conflict situation will be resolved "exclusively in the legal field, taking into account the interests of children." The Russian Embassy in Finland maintains contact with Karelina and the father of children, a Russian citizen Timonen, who has been permanently residing in Finland since 2011, the Russian Foreign Ministry added.
    On December 12 of 2012, the Petrozavodsk City Court of Appeal by Karelina ruled that the children should live with their mother in Petrozavodsk. At the same time, her statement was taken into account, in which Svetlana Karelina reported that Timonen was keeping children in Finland.
    15 of January this year, Timonen appealed to the Supreme Court of Karelia. It should be reviewed on January 25 of the 2013 of the year.

    http://www.itar-tass.com/c1/629798.html

    quote-The Russian Embassy in Finland maintains contact with Karelina and the Russian citizen Timonen, the father of children permanently living in Finland since 2011, was added to the Russian Foreign Ministry.

    I didn’t understand what kind of contact, the Russian embassy in Finland should initiate (there is already a corresponding decision of the Russian court) a lawsuit against this Timonen, followed by bringing him to justice and that’s the point.
    I got the impression that diplomatic organizations (the Foreign Ministry and the embassy) are trying to smooth out this situation what The question is why !!!
  • VoStattik
    VoStattik 24 January 2013 15: 10
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    It is necessary to remove the appropriate number of Finnish children from Finnish tourists, to subject them to defininization and to give them up for raising to those families that lost their children because of Finnish informers. They want to get their children back - let them give the Russians.
    The symmetric answer is what you wanted.
  • wown
    wown 24 January 2013 15: 37
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    it's time to shut off oxygen revs!
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 24 January 2013 17: 54
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      It is necessary to block, not just oxygen, but booze, let them drink their expensive vodka.
      And all fined Finns in Russia immediately put on 15 days and fine in full.
      And those who start pumping rights will be released for half an hour after 15 days, and then put back in prison for "petty hooliganism".
  • klavyr
    klavyr 24 January 2013 16: 00
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    Finns apparently decided to help the Americans bypassing the list of Dima Yakovlev
  • figvamforever
    figvamforever 24 January 2013 16: 09
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    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    I crap dear edition. Putin, State Duma AU, where are you all? When the answer to the Magnitsky law was needed, they immediately remembered the children. When the tough answers will go against the Finns. The toughest sanctions need to be imposed, up to the severance of all relations with them. Even words are not enough, this is the finish. Now I watched the news on TV, silence ..


    No need to do anything stupid, especially since some sanctions should be imposed. In Finland, children cannot be offended by law.
    And everything should be according to the law.
    The answer should be symmetrical. A Finnish family arrived with a child in Russia. At the slightest violation, detain parents in suspicion of an expired visa, terrorism, etc.) for 15 days for a start, a child in an orphanage). This is bad, but what to do. Then the Finns will look at this situation with different eyes.
  • Sleptsoff
    Sleptsoff 24 January 2013 16: 45
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    When China had a conflict with Japan, they stopped buying their cars, but with us people and the top can only shake the air. After the first abduction with the help of the diplomatic consul, the Finns had to make it clear that they were wrong, but nothing happened. You can of course prohibit the supply of wood to the Chukhites or something like that, but it will also hit our enterprises. I think in our situation it would be right to simply declare Finland a country not desirable for tourism. And the mother who sent her children to Finland was just a fool, apparently thought that the decision of the regional court to leave the children with her mother spread to the whole world. Now her former will probably be suing on her territory and I think everyone understands what decision the Finnish court will make))
  • Tagir-abzi
    Tagir-abzi 24 January 2013 19: 35
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    For children, I propose to beat the Finns in St. Petersburg there are many going to