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Biometric passport - point of no return

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Biometric passport - point of no return

Oleg Scherbanyuk, judicial expert in the field of finance and taxation



Since January 1, the Law “On the Unified State Demographic Register and documents confirming the citizenship of Ukraine, proving identity or its social status”, which is called by the people “the law on biometric passports”, came into force. It provides for the introduction of a new sample document - with an electronic chip that should be updated every 10 years.

What is the essence of this innovation and why are believers so irreconcilable against biopassports?


WHAT DANGER DOES A LAW ENTRY INTO FORCE?

The following theses have not yet succeeded in refuting even the leader in the field of promoting the project of biometricization of the population - the Party of Regions deputy Vasiliy Gritsak.

So, the introduction of biometric documents and the integration of all information about the population into a single register, at different stages of the project, can lead to create conditions for the blackmail of citizens of Ukraine, extortion and manipulation.

As you know, information about various aspects of human life will be stored in a single database. Also a database of fingerprints of the population of Ukraine will be created.
The concentration of all power in the hands of the owners of a single registry can lead to establish a dictatorship and violate the rights of citizens.

Also, the danger lies in the establishment of a system of absolute control over the costs of citizens. If you make a mandatory identification of the buyer when performing trading operations, with subsequent centralized accumulation of information about expenses, it will not be difficult to determine the taxable income - it is enough to compare the money spent with the declared income. What today is already being implemented by amending the decision of the Cabinet of Ministers No. 199 of 2002 of the year.

Manipulations with the Law can lead to frauds with property of citizens and the uncontrolled growth of crime in this area, as well - to the growth of black transplant and many other problems.

WHO CAN BE IN THIS INTEREST?

First of all, it is the West. Total control over the population will allow to complete the process of “integration to Europe”, and in fact - the colonization of Ukraine.

Secondly, these are commercial structures specializing in “cutting budgetary funds” that can be used at different stages of project implementation.



The president ordered to issue biometric passports to all Ukrainians this year


IDENTIFICATION AND VERIFICATION

It is worth paying attention to the identification and verification of a person (identification is the definition of a person, verification is the determination of the conformity of a document and a person. - Auth.) What methods can they be implemented in our reality?

The topic of introducing biometric passports was hardly considered in this focus. Although in fact it is here that the answers to many questions are hidden.
Thus, the identification process is a mandatory component of any legally relevant action. A person who is identified as a certain person receives the right to carry out permissible legal actions on behalf of that person. In other words, if person “A” is identified by the system as person “B”, then he can, for example, dispose of the property of person “B”.

The list of abuses according to this scheme is very long. The most graphic example is the fraud with credit cards, which account for abuses in the hundreds of billions of dollars worldwide.

When dealing with credit cards, verification of the owner and card is carried out by code. Correctly typed code identifies the person as the cardholder. Malefactors in hundreds of ways will get such codes, and further, using a fake card and verifying by the obtained code as the account holder, “materialize their disinterested love of money”.

Abuse of biometric passports can have far more serious consequences than stealing money from a credit card. Especially in the context of the global system of automatic human identification. Therefore, verification, or comparison, for compliance with a particular attribute included in a document — with the same indication of a person who presented a document, acquires key importance.

In addition, the system must meet very stringent requirements. Least, Verification and identification must be 100% accurate..The devices servicing the system should be inexpensive to operate.

The duration of the verification should last a few seconds.or even a fraction of a second. Signs entered into the system should be applicable to the entire population of the planet, all social and age groups.. Counterfeit and interference of outsiders in the system should be excluded. In addition, the method of verification and identification of a person must be suitable for use in the financial sector.



One of the possible ways to identify a person according to his biometric characteristics is based on the uniqueness of the set of biometric parameters of a person. But today it is impracticable: the methods under study are either expensive, or do not protect against fakes, or have significant errors in verification, or have other disadvantages. So the most common verification method is fingerprint man - very unreliable because of the ability to easily fake them. Information on how to forge fingerprints on the simplest office equipment can be found on the Internet. To carry out such a fake can anyone.

Verification on digitized face image very expensive, and does not exclude mistakes, if a person’s face undergoes mutilation, changes in facial features as a result of diseases, age-related physiological changes - from the moment of birth to old age, etc.

In Ukraine, these two above-mentioned signs are used as identifiers. However, the same as in Kenya.

And although all biometric identification methods do not meet the above requirements, biometrics are leaping the globe by leaps and bounds.

So the inhabitants of Kenya, in particular - the nomadic Masai tribes were also offered biometric documents. They, unlike Ukraine, are not fighting for a visa-free regime with Europe, but are trying to protect the election campaign from “terrible political fraud” in this way.

There are international ICAO requirements for biometric identification, where in paragraph 9 of Chapter 3 of the 9 application “Simplification of formalities” only one biometric parameter is required - a digitized image of the face, the rest are voluntary. ICAO's requirements are mandatory for all participating countries, and these are all more or less civilized countries, which means that the digitized image of a person’s face, or three-dimensional photo, was chosen as the main identifying feature. But as we have indicated above, this verification method is far from perfect, and is definitely not suitable for implementing it in the whole world.

HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF VERIFICATION OF ALL THE POPULATION OF THE PLANET?

How will the task of verifying the entire population of the planet be solved?

The answer to this puzzling question is in the same ICAO document. In it, as another required parameter, but not a biometric one, we find an item on machine readable information. It can now be seen in the Ukrainian foreign passport at the bottom of the polycarbonate page. This is the bottom line, in which between the characters "<<" is written a numeric identifier of a person, consisting of: the first digit is one digit, then three characters, the country code "UKR", then a few reserved characters, and at the end - the national identification number.

Such a record matches the international standard ISO 11784 / 11785, the structure of the code, or the name of the person for the chip. In this technology, the identifier is a digital identifier known in Ukraine as an TIN. Identification is carried out by this number. In this case, such identification meets all the above requirements.



HOW TO STRONGLY BRING CHIP TO HUMAN?

But what about verification or verification of ownership of a document by a specific person? The first solution to the problem is the implantation of the chip into the human body, which was repeatedly written in the context of using the Verichip implant to identify the individual. But such implantation is not provided for by regulatory documents. Then how tightly bind the chip to a person?

The answer to this question becomes obvious after reading the description of Thomas Heeter's patent, USA No. 5878155 from 2.03.1999 called “The method of verification of human identity in the process of electronic trade transactions”.

According to this patent: “The present invention solves problems inherent in other methods. A unique bar code or unique sign is tattooed with invisible ink on the person. The tattoo can be both temporary and permanent and can be located at any suitable place in the human body, preferably on the forearm. When a person wishes to perform a trade operation, the tattoo should be scanned by the scanner. ”

By other methods it is mentioned here that: “During the Holocaust, the Nazis tattooed the hands of the Jews with a unique identification number ... none of these methods is suitable in practice for the purposes of electronic transactions. First, the public consciousness dictates that any labeling of people should not be noticeable, as was the numbering of the victims of the Holocaust. ”

Although information about the method of applying such a tattoo itself does not contain a patent, but only indicates the use of invisible ink, other resources provide a definition of this method as a method of applying a bar code on a person’s skin using a laser tattoo.

In this case, if a person with a help of some indelible technology to put a number on his forehead, in a manner imperceptible to the human eye, then the problems are solved - both the identification of a person and verification of the card and its owner. After all, if the number printed on a person does not coincide with the number on the card, then no operations can be carried out. It is not technically possible to forge such a style, the accuracy of verification is close to 100%, the cost of operation is a cheap one, the speed of verification is a fraction of seconds. In trade deals, this system has long been worked out.

In such conditions, there is a great danger that during the scanning of a digitized image of a person, a digital name in the form of a bar code will be tattooed on a person's brow. There are all prerequisites for this, a technical possibility, a conditional need, and the voluntary consent of many people.

The passport in Ukraine will be issued with the consent of the person, which will include the procedure for removing biometric data. The outline described in the Thomas Heather patent will be included in this procedure by default.

This assumption is also favored by the fact that the procedure for removing a digitized image of a person is carried out, including for infants. The next “photo” will be taken only upon reaching the 10 age.

The question is, like Who can identify a 5-year-old boy from a baby photo?

In addition, the alternative that is contained in Art. The 16 Act No. 5492 of 20.11.2012 of the year will still oblige everyone to go through the procedure of scanning a three-dimensional image of a person. Although it would be much simpler to give existing paper documents the status of alternative ones, it is incomparably cheaper and does not create any trouble for the state, since the system for issuing and operating them already exists.

But instead, residents of Ukraine were taught in advance to be photographed with the help of government equipment. It is known that everyone who wanted to get a passport was forced to take pictures in OVIRs. It is clear that the mark in question in this article was not plotted, but the formation of public opinion about the security of any procedures with the image of a person took place.

Not without interest, there will be the ancient prophecy of St. Basil the New, in which his pupil Gregory describes the following: “Even so, we must separate the Lord from the cathedral, and behold, the regiment came sly and filthy more than the Ineh, and their eyes were dark and gloomy more than the Ineh, they had the writing on their faces,“ Satan ”, in the arms of the despot, on them is written: "Rejection" ". As can be seen from the above text, cards in hand and mark on the forehead exist simultaneouslywho has a card has both the mark on his forehead, and on the other hand, who has the mark on his forehead - he also has a card in his hands.

Thus, with a great degree of probability, when removing such a biometric parameter as a digitized image of a person’s face, a face will be drawn invisible to the human eye. In machine-readable form, the personal number of the person will be recorded, which in terms of the law No. 5492 of 20.11.2012 is called “the unique number of the entry in the Register.”

Even if the face will not be printed on the person during the face scan, then if due to frauds or fakes of bio-documents people can lose their livelihood. Then drawing the mark on the body or implanting the chip into the body is not unavoidable, it will be dictated by security.

Biometrics is a well-publicized illusion of security and convenience. Convenience is that the object with the chip is easy to manage. If a person agrees to a passport with a chip, then his document will become easily and conveniently identifiable, the person himself is completely manipulated. Therefore, a biometric document is a point of no return., having passed it, it is impossible to return back, further - only the inevitable drawing of the “mark of the beast”, which is eternal destruction.

The piquancy of the situation also lies in the fact that it is impossible to obtain any evidence of the ongoing manipulations with the person during the removal of the digitized image of the face. After drawing the mark to those who carry out the drawing of the outline, there is no need to admit its drawing. And dedicated to all the details of the process, too, will be silent or deny under any pretext.

According to verse 9 chapters xnumx “The revelations of the Apostle and Evangelist John the Theologian” we know that: “whoever worships the beast and his image and accepts the mark on his forehead or on his hand, he will drink the wine of God's wrath, whole wine prepared in the cup of his wrath, and will be tormented in fire and sulfur ... ". In other words, the inscription is an absolute end, death - both in this and in the hereafter.

Therefore, only the manifestation of vigil and sobriety, and non-participation in the affairs of barren darkness, about which the Church warns, is a guarantee of not accepting the mark of the "beast," and of preserving its soul from eternal death.

Everything else is a game, according to the rules of the “beast,” on the territory of the “beast,” which will necessarily end with the “mark of the beast.”

The choice is ours and may the Lord save us from the wrong choice!


ps This article is also relevant for the residents of Russia, since an absolutely similar passport will be introduced on the territory of the Russian Federation on practically the same patterns. And no matter what slogans and statements about the nationality of this innovation we were not reassured, I think attentive people noticed this global trend forcing the creation of this electronic system. Contrary to the presence of other, more pressing problems for the state, common sense and counterarguments of believers. And all under plausible pretexts for the care and general improvement of the life of the common man. But as you know - the road to hell is lined with good intentions. And it seems this time it's not just a quote ...
In more detail in the report on biometric passports.
Oleg Scherbanyuk (report - Kovel, Ukraine, duration - 2 h. 39 min.)

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  1. Crescent
    Crescent 24 January 2013 06: 50
    0
    The state has always, at all times, sought to control citizens, new technologies are only at the service of this desire: biopassports are created with fingerprints, iris, chips are implanted ... Either you have to put up with this or cancel identification documents. There is no third.
    1. older
      older 24 January 2013 07: 23
      +9
      Quote: Crescent
      biopassports with fingerprints, iris are created, the chip is implanted
      Leonid, try to combine biopassport and the creation of social cards, where ALL information on a person will be recorded ... Control turns out to be total ... Almost any person in such conditions can be MAKED by anyone ... I wanted to make a minister, no question, I wanted to beggar, too not a question ... In the modern world there is not a single information carrier that would give 100% a security guarantee ....
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 24 January 2013 07: 43
        -11%
        You exaggerate the impact of chipization, do not listen to stupid provocateurs.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 January 2013 08: 06
          +16
          Quote: vladsolo56
          do not listen to stupid provocateurs.

          And who needs to listen, those on chips earn money? When you mount the chip in one place, remember the words of the provocateurs.
          1. vladsolo56
            vladsolo56 24 January 2013 08: 21
            -5
            Yes, you quit listening to fables. they will mount it, they’ll scare me, from whom personally are you hiding that you are so scared by surveillance.
            1. Crescent
              Crescent 24 January 2013 08: 24
              +3
              Quote: vladsolo56
              Yes, you quit listening to fables. they will mount it, they’ll scare me, from whom personally are you hiding that you are so scared by surveillance.

              I do not agree with you, especially knowing the realities of our lives, there are plenty of people who want to get rich on personal information. But to fight this is useless, as noted above - the control was and will be.
            2. tomket
              tomket 24 January 2013 08: 45
              +5
              but actually this is a direct violation of the rights and freedoms guaranteed by the constitution, they will add a couple more laws adopted on the wave of antiterror and voila Auschwitz is ready !!!! then we go slender columns into the furnace ....
            3. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 24 January 2013 09: 14
              +6
              Quote: vladsolo56

              Yes, you quit listening to fables. they will mount it, they’ll scare me, from whom personally are you hiding that you are so scared by surveillance.

              Science fiction in our world sooner or later becomes a reality. With regards to surveillance, and who would like to be watched? I’ll rob the bank, let’s watch then !!!
              1. engineer74
                engineer74 24 January 2013 09: 42
                +4
                I’ll give an example easier:
                As a gift to your "beloved" boss, you buy a dildo> 0.5m in a sex shop.
                How will your next employer only be informed about the fact of this purchase? smile
                1. atalef
                  atalef 24 January 2013 09: 59
                  0
                  Quote: engineer74
                  As a gift to your "beloved" boss, you buy a dildo> 0.5m in a sex shop.
                  How will your next employer only be informed about the fact of this purchase?

                  He may like it if the employer is a woman. tongue
                  1. engineer74
                    engineer74 24 January 2013 10: 18
                    +1
                    And if a bogeyman ??? what
              2. Papakiko
                Papakiko 24 January 2013 11: 09
                +1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                I’ll rob the bank, then let them watch

                Do not go alone, call us, we also need economic freedom.
            4. gladiatorakz
              gladiatorakz 24 January 2013 11: 13
              +3
              Quote: vladsolo56
              Yes, you quit listening to fables. they will mount it, they’ll scare me, from whom personally are you hiding that you are so scared by surveillance.

              Slave collar and chain. Only not metal, but electronic.
              And man must be free.
            5. Ahmar
              Ahmar 24 January 2013 12: 16
              +8
              vladsolo56,
              elementary - I'm not cattle to stigmatize me! lived without this garbage for thousands of years and still live the same! I do not see any security problems at the moment, for example, or any inconvenience with existing passports!
            6. Mairos
              Mairos 24 January 2013 13: 58
              0
              Are you sure that it will always be like this in your life? What will not have to hide anything and hide from anyone?
          2. sincman
            24 January 2013 13: 23
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            When you mount the chip in one place

            Insidiousness lies in the fact that there will be no chipping in our territory. Because this method is suitable for naive Americans ... natives of Africa and other naive people. But not for us - it is too rude and obvious and there will be many opponents! Need to act cleaner! To do this, there is a method of applying to the skin with a laser a conventional barcode familiar to the buyer, since modern technologies allow this. In this case, the operation is painless, invisible to humans and gives a guaranteed result! That's actually during the removal of the digitized image and this operation will occur turning a person into a digitized product.
            It is not for nothing that in the scriptures there are two types of "antichrist seal" on the wrist - a chip, and on the forehead - a laser mark!
          3. Genry
            Genry 24 January 2013 14: 08
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            When you mount the chip in one place, remember the words of the provocateurs.


            Why implant a chip if the identification on your face is recorded.
            http://habrahabr.ru/company/croc/blog/151680/

            1. Chipization of passports is aimed at accelerating and simplifying passport control (otherwise all passport data is manually rewritten).
            2. A biometric database exists in the Ministry of Internal Affairs even for the old passport system (photographs, prints, description of individuals).
            3. Automatic tracking on your "face", it is possible to carry out by means of video surveillance (which is almost completely)!
            4. And this whole story against biopassports in Ukraine is a business war in which they want to involve mugs.
            1. sincman
              24 January 2013 15: 27
              +1
              Quote: Genry
              Why implant a chip if the identification on your face is recorded.
              http://habrahabr.ru/company/croc/blog/151680/

              1. Chipization of passports is aimed at accelerating and simplifying passport control (otherwise all passport data is manually rewritten).
              2. A biometric database exists in the Ministry of Internal Affairs even for the old passport system.
              3. Automatic tracking on your "face", it is possible to carry out by means of video surveillance (which is almost completely)!

              A barrel of honey ...

              Quote: Genry
              4. And this whole story against biopassports in Ukraine, this is a business war in which they want to involve mugs.

              A spoon of tar...
              The classic scheme ... wink

              And if in essence, then do not marginalize the protest mood! By this you insult ALL protesters against the system! Including me!
        2. Uncle
          Uncle 24 January 2013 12: 35
          +8
          Quote: vladsolo56
          You exaggerate the effect of chipization
          And you underestimate the danger. Now total control seems fearless, but I have nothing to hide! But under general control, the nuts are sharply tightened. Let me give you an example of total control: under the Communists, you wear a cross, go to the Temple — out of the Komsomol, down from work, out of the university. You live without a residence permit - go to prison, so, in particular, you were persecuted by Matryona of Moscow, since the zugunder didn’t get to it. Dressing up wrong, dancing rock and roll, subject to persecution, Do you remember how hippies were forcefully cut and put in a madhouse? And there are many such examples; we are not talking about them. The worst thing is that chipization is preparation for the accession of the Antichrist. Believe it or not, it will be. Thus, total control will allow almost everyone to incline to worship the beast in a human form. You do not want to bow to the son of perdition, you want to remain faithful to Christ, you, and me too, will simply be starved to death, for without the devil's seal we will not be able to buy food.
          1. Vladimir_61
            Vladimir_61 24 January 2013 13: 19
            +2
            I agree with Uncle. There is unlimited control over the external safety concern. Who will guarantee that the functions will not be expanded in the implantable chip? And in general, what program can you put in it? They told us directly and frankly. With today's frenzy, the centralized management of a hidden community is traced in the world. Want to meekly obey? The mockery of the emerging problem is exactly what supports the plans of that very community. You can’t call him humane.
          2. Genry
            Genry 24 January 2013 14: 25
            -5
            Total control just started the church, when it declared its rights to a tenth of people's income (church tithe).

            The forms of control are changing, but not the volume.
            The state wants to reduce its population-based costs.

            And who's talking about an implantable chip? Changing it is easier than having plastic surgery.
            1. Vladimir_61
              Vladimir_61 24 January 2013 15: 36
              +1
              Easier? Now it is not surprising that there are reports of microrobots planned for the treatment of the circulatory system. For example, it is enough to make a fuss about a disease and vaccinate - without exception. They will not ask you whether you want or not, the performers will not know. Of course, everything may not be so, but this does not eliminate the threat of implantable microchips. Conversations do not arise from scratch.
      2. Papakiko
        Papakiko 24 January 2013 11: 17
        -7
        Let the Zhovto-blakitnye "have fun" look, the lubov will diminish to "democratic values".
        1. sincman
          24 January 2013 12: 08
          +6
          Quote: Papakiko
          Let the Zhovto-blakitnye "have fun" look, the lubov will diminish to "democratic values".

          There is nothing special to comment on, and so everything is clear.
          They just tell you that the same thing is planned in Russia. So be together with these yellow-blackhead cabbage soup!
          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 24 January 2013 13: 13
            0
            My family will put UY on this "chipping".
            And so through the phones they listen to everything and know everything, I will modestly keep silent about "E-mails", "IP-addresses", "classmates" and "VKontakte".
            Think the above is missing?
            Common sense in terms of benefits for the layman ZERO!
            1. sincman
              24 January 2013 13: 41
              +5
              Then get used to agricultural labor in the fresh air!
              I motivate:
              1. The ultimate goal of the system is to translate all human operations, including monetary, into electronic form. Those. as a result, we GUARANTEED will receive a complete rejection of paper money, as now from ordinary passports. The fact that it is beneficial to the rulers I think is obvious to everyone! It’s easier to twist zeros in a computer than to print real money.
              2. Without paper money, you can buy food and other goods on your card only in the supermarketbecause PAPER MONEY WILL NOT BE AT ALL! Accordingly, spontaneous markets in which a lot of people are now buying up will also disappear. Those. either a card ... or a commodity exchange!
              3. Officially, the exchange of goods will most likely be prohibited by law and will be strictly punished, again, the system will only add more opportunities for this. Like moonshine brewing at one time.
              4. Information about your property will be entered into the electronic registry and over time, paper documents will be declared void. those. invalid. Accordingly, without an electronic document you cannot prove your rights to property.
              And this is just the first thing that comes to mind ...

              In total, in the bottom line, you will have a choice, either to accept an electronic document and enjoy all the "benefits", or go into the taiga, as the Old Believers did in their time, who disagreed with the church reform. If you refuse, you will in any case doom yourself and your loved ones to suffering. As it was actually predicted in the Bible (Cross or bread)!
              1. Papakiko
                Papakiko 24 January 2013 15: 39
                0
                The addiction of Ukrainians to tea and bacon is well-known, but I see that it is the first thing I see with these products. belay
                Considering the speed at which Internet networks are developing on a scale of RUSSIA, it seems that my grandchildren will "embrace" with the misfortune described by you. wink
                1. sincman
                  24 January 2013 15: 50
                  0
                  Quote: Papakiko
                  The addiction of Ukrainians to tea and bacon is well-known, but I see that it is the first thing I see with these products.

                  When there aren’t enough counterarguments, insults come into the picture ... I understand ...

                  Quote: Papakiko
                  Considering the speed at which Internet networks are developing on a scale of RUSSIA, it seems that my grandchildren will "embrace" with the misfortune described by you.

                  Holy naivety! I think any IT specialist will tell you that the development of IT infrastructure over the past 10 years has gone at a tremendous pace! This is evident even with the naked eye to ordinary people. So there is no need to cheat. In any ... even a seedy town there is a supermarket or a shop where you can pay with a plastic card.
                  1. Egoza
                    Egoza 24 January 2013 16: 58
                    0
                    Quote: sincman
                    even a run-down town there is a supermarket or a shop where you can pay with a plastic card.

                    Aha! Right away! And how they "work well" with us! Even in the bank you cannot pay off the account from the card. Well, there is no connection to the e-mail address there! And also problems with electricity. The town went out ... and that's it! Only in a shop you can buy something for cash. I'm not talking about the village. So people can sell or buy at least something without dealers. So there are a lot of disadvantages. I will not take our time with our little problems.
                    1. sincman
                      24 January 2013 17: 07
                      0
                      Quote: Egoza
                      Aha! Right away! And how they "work well" with us! Even in the bank you cannot pay off the account from the card. Well, there is no connection to the e-mail address there! And also problems with electricity. Here the town went out ... and that's it!

                      There is a good expression, "The sheriff's niggas problems don't f ... So if now these are the problems of banks, then later they will be our problems ... And who promises a heavenly life? "And the living will envy the dead" (Rev. 9: 6)
              2. Perch_xnumx
                Perch_xnumx 24 January 2013 16: 34
                +2
                All is correct. First, biopassports will be introduced, in the future they will create a kind of electronic chip that will contain all the information about a person, all his electronic bills, all biometric and other information. Naturally, for starters, this information needs to be collected from people under various pretexts.
                The next stage, the implantation of the chip, the cancellation of paper money, any operation with identity confirmation - confirmation (pin code), fingerprint, retinal scan, or other bio information. That is, as in the scripture "do not buy, do not sell, if you do not have a label, an implanted biochip."
                What can we oppose to this:
                1 To unite into communities, communities, in case of compulsion to live and help each other together.
                2 It is friendly to go out to protest against these events, with the goal, if not to reverse the decision, then create an alternative system for believers.
                3 Prepare to purchase agricultural implements, items necessary for survival, hunting, fishing and other equipment
                4 Have a plot of land in the countryside for growing food.
                1. sincman
                  24 January 2013 16: 51
                  +2
                  Quote: Perch_1
                  First, biopassports will be introduced, in the future they will create a kind of electronic chip that will contain all the information about a person, all his electronic bills, all biometric and other information. Naturally, for starters, this information needs to be collected from people under various pretexts.
                  The next stage, implantation of a chip, cancellation of paper money, any operation with an identity confirmation - confirmation (pin code), fingerprint, retinal scan, or other bio information

                  Everything is correct, but apparently you were not careful enough.
                  1. Biopassport already contains a chip for storing information.
                  2. Most of the important data has already been collected in different systems and registers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, tax, etc. .. It remains only to combine it together. But for IT professionals, this is not a difficult task with political will. Now the association is really limited only by existing regulatory documents. Well, as you develop, add new servings.
                  3. Instead of chipping, a laser imprint will be applied to the forehead at the time of taking an electronic image of your face for a biopass. Which is equivalent to chipping. This label will be the "PIN code" of the card, which will clearly identify you as its owner. Imprints, retinas and other crap will be secondary.

                  So that everything will happen MUCH faster than we could have expected.
                  1. Perch_xnumx
                    Perch_xnumx 24 January 2013 17: 27
                    +1
                    The fact is that most modern scanners used are not able to burn marks on the face - laser burns, so that later they could be considered a kind of device.
                    But in any case, believers need to defend their interests.
                    In the future, the monasteries will become a stronghold and refuge for all those who refuse the drawing procedure.
                    1. sincman
                      25 January 2013 11: 56
                      0
                      Quote: Perch_1
                      The fact is that most modern scanners used are not able to burn marks on the face - laser burns, so that later they could be considered a kind of device.

                      Can you be 100% sure of this? I honestly admit, I can’t be 100% sure of the possibility of applying or the complete absence of such an opportunity. But given the great will of the rulers to achieve the ultimate goal, as well as the possibility of modern science. Given how much money can be spent on such technology, I can’t be 100% sure that this is impossible. See how declassified military developments about which we had not even guessed before. An elementary example is given - WHY DIGITIZE THE BABY'S FACE ?! After all, it changes every day! There is no sane answer to this question. Like this procedure ... But it is definitely pointless! Why is this hologram at all? Indeed, in our time it is not difficult to change the face of an interested person. Pay attention to the proposed alternatives. They are even ready to refuse the chip inside the card! But from digitization - no! Doesn't lead to any thoughts?
      3. Ross
        Ross 24 January 2013 11: 39
        +3
        older,
        Do not forget, this is global chipization and, accordingly, let's think about where there will be a single center for managing and accumulating information? Already now we are thinking about the loss of sovereignty of the Central Bank, it is naive to think that the new system will be local.
  2. older
    older 24 January 2013 06: 59
    +10
    A very serious question was raised in the article ... Indeed, with modern information technologies it is worth putting control over humanity, which means that management is worthless ... Having a common database automatically gives its owner the opportunity to influence the life of any person ...
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 24 January 2013 07: 46
      -6
      Do you at least understand what you are writing about how you can influence a person through a passport. you are now strongly influenced by your passport, there is the same thing only in electronic form. Well, if you do not want to be "followed", put it in a closet at home, and let the problem lie.
      1. Papakiko
        Papakiko 24 January 2013 13: 15
        -2
        You have to carry TWO documents everywhere with you, along with a chip card and a paper passport.
        Fuck a goat button accordion?
        1. Genry
          Genry 24 January 2013 14: 51
          -2
          Quote: Papakiko
          You have to carry TWO documents everywhere with you, along with a chip card and a paper passport.

          You get 4 documents in total. Panic like a goat?

          The passport is supposed to be made in the form of a plastic card, as a pass.
          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 24 January 2013 15: 45
            0
            Native heart!
            Yes, even in the form of a tattoo on the ass, well, absolutely from the sleeve vest.
            ATMs work through one, and here is such a "serious" question. wink
            Shopping at the store every time pass on the map.
            Well, don’t make people laugh, although laughter prolongs life - Then take it with renewed energy. laughing
    2. Genry
      Genry 24 January 2013 14: 58
      -1
      Quote: older
      The presence of a common database automatically gives its owner the opportunity to influence the life of any person ...

      Now you are at least in the bases of three institutions: the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the KGB, the military registration and enlistment office. And medicine rivets a single base.
      And also banks, write a general credit history. And how many stores have you registered for a discount ...
      Something you do not really hide from them.
  3. Fox
    Fox 24 January 2013 07: 31
    +17
    as an opera, I’ll say this: with such data, you can do evidence for anyone. convenient thing. for certain circles.
    1. Pit
      Pit 24 January 2013 07: 39
      +8
      Quote: Fox
      with such data you can do any evidence


      Yes, there you can make not only evidence.
      This in my opinion will turn out a very advanced form of slavery. Whoever owns the information is the master.
    2. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 24 January 2013 07: 47
      -10%
      And now you might think they don’t. what do you mean? damn well, what a dark people
      1. Pit
        Pit 24 January 2013 11: 58
        +4
        Quote: vladsolo56
        And now you might think they don’t. what do you mean? damn well, what a dark people

        The people are not as dark as you think. And now I control. But with the introduction of everything that is planned in this case, surveillance will reach a higher level and it will become much easier to manipulate society.
      2. Ahmar
        Ahmar 24 January 2013 12: 24
        +1
        vladsolo56,
        but you are not enlightened, no doubt, now there is practically no personal life with Facebook, classmates and others like that, you just have to brand as cattle and erase data with one button to erase the entire existence of the personality as such. In addition, information about the state of health will be collected later in this data and here is a finished product for organ transplantation - especially in the light of the law on unconditional consent to transplantation after death.
        1. Pit
          Pit 24 January 2013 12: 51
          +1
          Quote: Ahmar
          and here you have the finished product for organ transplantology

          Well said and steamed, you don’t have to refresh for a quick search for someone. Plus, you can immediately see who live well in Russia, etc.
          Information will not be protected as it is required and it will be used by everyone who is not lazy and certainly not for good purposes.
  4. Pit
    Pit 24 January 2013 07: 36
    +3
    Well then, right then with colorless ink, let's get right, normal, but instead of a card, the collar would not have been guilty a lot, and you immediately immediately collared the collar with an electric shock, and conceived the cromole so completely strangled it.
    But seriously, I do not believe in Christianity, Islam, and even less so. And all this nonsense about the "beast" does not hurt me. But all these innovations terrify me, I somehow do not want someone to sit, watch my consumption, my movement, and thus could control my actions. Plus, who guarantees that my personal information does not go to the side and does not become the property of unwanted elimination. Private life will then become just a memory from the bright past.
    1. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 24 January 2013 10: 34
      +5
      You can believe, you can not believe, but not admit that everything described in the article completely falls under the "Revelations of Ion the Theologian" you cannot. Because they fit 100%.
      1. Pit
        Pit 24 January 2013 11: 55
        +1
        Quote: Trapper7
        completely falls under the "Revelations of Ion the Theologian"

        And I do not deny, this phaliant I read a bunch of other literature and thinkers of the past. So I will not refuse my words that such an undertaking is not acceptable, I don’t know how about going to “heaven” or “hell” (which interests me a little), it will bring more problems to ordinary people than benefits. Although interested persons will shout from all demands that Life has become better, safer, etc.
    2. Papakiko
      Papakiko 24 January 2013 13: 19
      0
      Quote: Pit
      who guarantees that my personal information will not go side

      The state represented by representatives of the authorities will provide you with everything so that life shines with all the colors of the rainbow.
      1. Pit
        Pit 24 January 2013 15: 27
        0
        Quote: Papakiko
        The state represented by representatives of the authorities will provide you with everything so that life shines with all the colors of the rainbow.

        Do you yourself believe that?
        But for optimism, a fat plus smile
      2. sincman
        24 January 2013 15: 33
        +1
        Quote: Papakiko
        The state represented by representatives of the authorities will provide you with everything so that life shines with all the colors of the rainbow.

        Yeah, and then they’ll catch up and provide again ... and again ... and so on to complete ecstasy ...
  5. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 24 January 2013 07: 42
    -5
    It’s completely nonsense why a passport with a photograph is normal, but a passport with electronic data is already an infringement of rights. As a normal citizen of my country, I’m not even afraid that, as they say, they will constantly monitor me. Only an absolute layman can consider that such a chip is threatening something. A person who is not all right with conscience or with the law will certainly be against such an innovation. Most are afraid of nothing. The hysteria spreads and develops only for public relations purposes of the company of some politicians who have nothing to offer, so they cling to the straw.
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 24 January 2013 08: 37
      +9
      Sorry, but you live in an ideal world where total surveillance is good, information is not bought or sold, absolutely ALL laws are aimed at the benefit of EVERY individual, etc. Are you sure you want to tell the authorities or society, at least, about ALL of your movements since birth? This is me about verification based on a chip or barcode.
      Sincerely. hi
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 24 January 2013 08: 41
        -6
        Do not believe it, but I don’t really give a damn, it’s even profitable for me not to run to the passport office for registration every time. standing there in lines wasting time. So I don’t care about chip-making perfect. if for example I’m tired of society, I can move to the wilderness and live there and put my passport in an iron box)). he who wants to be free lives like that, and doesn’t cry that you see him, have you counted him?
        1. engineer74
          engineer74 24 January 2013 09: 00
          +4
          Chipping makes sense of giving up cash as such. So, living in the wilderness you have to give up everything, "live in unity with nature."
          1. vladsolo56
            vladsolo56 24 January 2013 10: 15
            0
            stupidity, who told you this, you should not believe everything that undergrades or propaganda of various kinds write
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 January 2013 09: 16
          +7
          Quote: vladsolo56
          . So I don’t care about chip-making perfect. if for example I’m tired of society, I can move to the wilderness

          And you without a passport will get to this wilderness? If you wind 500 kilometers of foot, well, hold the flag in your hands. Go around police and rangers wink
          1. vladsolo56
            vladsolo56 24 January 2013 10: 17
            -4
            Just running away from dogs, sweeping tracks, changing appearance, and much more. without this, how to get along, such an important person decided to hide in the forest, they will not allow it, they will raise everyone to their ears and catch them and return them to the city.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 24 January 2013 12: 17
      +1
      Quote: vladsolo56
      why a passport with a photograph is normal, but a passport with electronic data is already an infringement of rights.

      The infringement of rights is already in the fact that now you can still write your name in the passport, albeit in Ukrainian letters. In the electronic passport ALL names will be translated into Ukrainian. This has already been warned so that people do not arise. Farion's dream come true! Was you Nicholas, you will become Mykola!
      1. Genry
        Genry 24 January 2013 15: 07
        -1
        Quote: Egoza
        In the electronic passport ALL names will be translated into Ukrainian. This has already been warned so that people do not arise. Farion's dream come true! Was you Nicholas, you will become Mykola!


        Link to the studio!
        Or clearly say that this is your fabrication.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 24 January 2013 17: 34
          +2
          Especially for you! Genry,
          Quote: Genry
          Link to the studio!
          Or clearly say that this is your fabrication.

          http://polemika.com.ua/news-103918.html
          Until recently, the country had a strong - like all temporary - status quo. In passports, which after 1991 were received by citizens of Ukraine, two spellings of the name were recorded: in the state and Russian languages. And although it was the Ukrainian spelling, which made Nikolai Mykola, and Vladimir, Volodymyr, was considered the main form, this did not cause any particular discomfort to the Russian speakers.
          The rest of the documents were gradually translated into the state language. In the driver's license, which was issued in the southeast of the country 10 years ago, the names were written in Russian transcription. But when the international form of the document (the size of a credit card) was introduced, the names were entered only in Ukrainian. The same situation with passports: I had to explain to foreigners why you should be called Nikita if the document says "Mykyta".
          The experience of introducing biometric passports only says that there can only be one option for spelling a name. And there is no doubt that they will become Ukrainian.
          In fact, Ukraine is now at a turning point - from January 1, when new biometric passports will go "to the people", this very people will receive a single name - in Ukrainian transcription. And the seemingly already forgotten dream of the nationalists about the complete Ukrainization of the southeast will come closer to embodiment.
          And further....
          http://www.km.ru/world/2012/11/22/polozhenie-russkoyazychnogo-naseleniya-ukrainy
          / 697894-kak-nikity-stali-na-ukraine-m
          http://gorchakovfund.ru/open-diplomacy/ukraina-kak-sotsialnyy-ad-mnenie/
          And in principle, there are still many articles - it is enough to type in "names in Ukrainian biometric passports" in Google. Or is everyone lying?
  6. Igor
    Igor 24 January 2013 08: 19
    -4
    And what's wrong with biometric passports? It’s impossible to fake them, that the state will keep track of a person, well, so it can follow credit cards, the Internet, listen to a regular phone or cell phone, determine its location by a cell signal, so no one is going to relax implant chips in the head especially of Russia with its saw-roll system of state. control another 300 years of such technical progress not to be seen.
    1. Ilyich
      Ilyich 24 January 2013 08: 32
      +3
      Quote: Igorek
      And what's wrong with biometric passports? That they cannot be faked, that the state will monitor the person ...

      Do you really don’t understand what is at stake? Ukraine - Orthodox state. Besides:
      Data that can be considered largely intimate will be entered into a single registry. Besides, Information about each resident of Ukraine will be stored not only in the special services of the state, but also in the west - in special centers in Canada or in one of the other NATO member states. This information includes data on the state of health, on bank accounts, on income and expenses, on eye color, on location, and it will always be quickly available to employees of Western special services, the center emphasizes.

      Source - http://www.zakonia.ru/blog/dajdzhest-novostej-po-sootechestvennikam
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 24 January 2013 08: 36
        -1
        They scared me, they had no strength, by the way, what does Orthodoxy have to do with it, and besides, to call Ukraine or Russia the Orthodox state is complete rubbish, these are secular states and a separate religion. I certainly understand that believers are poorly educated, but not to the same extent
        1. Ilyich
          Ilyich 24 January 2013 09: 04
          +2
          Quote: vladsolo56
          Scared, no strength

          Yes, you have nothing to fear so far. The law is Ukrainian. And I am strongly opposed.
          Quote: vladsolo56
          and where does Orthodoxy

          While faith does not allow.
          Quote: vladsolo56
          and besides to call as Ukraine or Russia the Orthodox state complete nonsense, these are secular states and a religion separate

          And this is already more convenient for anyone to consider. Separated, that's right. According to law. That's just the people - he is alone. Not divided, a wretch such.
          Quote: vladsolo56
          I certainly understand that believers are poorly educated, but not to the same extent

          Apparently, you are a complete atheist. Therefore, arguing with you is pointless. I only note that in vain you called believers illiterate.
          If anything - Pascal, Cauchy, Pasteur and many other scholars were believers
          1. vladsolo56
            vladsolo56 24 January 2013 10: 22
            -2
            Maybe you don’t know, in Russia tens of thousands of people and children are missing each year, but now ask any mother if she wants her child to suddenly disappear, or better let him have a document with a chip on which it’s very fast can be found. But not even a child is just a person. There is nothing perfect in the world, I remember how very much a wave of indignation was raised when cameras were introduced in big cities, as it turned out they were only good and no harm, so live honestly and you have nothing to be afraid of chips. And faith has nothing to do with it.
            As for the villain, I can only say from this your dictum that you are not Orthodox and not even a believer, you are just an evil and stupid person
            1. Ilyich
              Ilyich 24 January 2013 10: 39
              +5
              Quote: vladsolo56
              Maybe you don’t know, in Russia tens of thousands of people and children are missing each year, but now ask any mother if she wants her child to suddenly disappear, or better let him have a document with a chip on which it’s very fast can be found. But not even a child is just a person.

              To do this, it is completely unnecessary to introduce chips. The excuse that, they say, "this is for the good of the people" does not work here, because 25 years ago the population of the country was larger, but the loss of people and other ugly things is much less. And the databases were completely unnecessary, mind you!
              Quote: vladsolo56
              About the villain

              actually it was an irony. And, yes, I'm not Orthodox. And as for the evil and the stupid - probably still you can’t judge by reading only two or three phrases, right?

              And faith has nothing to do with it.

              Moreover. Very much to do with. Because in each the barcode (namely, the barcode in question) is hidden 666. I emphasize: in each. And I can prove it in two minutes to any sane person.
              1. Genry
                Genry 24 January 2013 15: 32
                -1
                Quote: Ilyich
                And the databases were completely unnecessary, mind you!

                Databases about people have always been (with writing). As soon as a person was born, he fell into the base (even in ancient Egypt they find it).
                1. Ilyich
                  Ilyich 24 January 2013 15: 48
                  +1
                  Quote: Genry
                  Databases about people have always been (with writing)

                  Do not distort! You are well aware of the bases in question. Or did I have to write complete specifications, including the programming language in which they were written?
          2. Genry
            Genry 24 January 2013 15: 26
            -1
            Quote: Ilyich
            While faith does not allow.


            What does faith have to do with the passport system? What does faith decrease?
            Does faith allow you to use the Internet? Cars, phones, computers, drugs, electricity? During fasting, you turn everything off so that it does not interfere with thinking about God?
            Be consistent and reject everything that is not in the Bible!
            1. Ilyich
              Ilyich 24 January 2013 16: 01
              +1
              Quote: Genry
              What does faith have to do with the passport system? What does faith decrease?

              What does the passport system have to do with it? You are replacing concepts. It's not about passports, but about what this system will contain and what functions to perform
              Quote: Genry
              Does faith allow you to use the Internet? Cars, phones, computers, drugs, electricity? During fasting, you turn everything off so that it does not interfere with thinking about God?

              Well, I’m probably a bad Christian. But chipization is too much even for me. Moreover, when events do not just remind, but are directly related to Revelation.
              Quote: Genry
              Be consistent and reject everything that is not in the Bible!

              You distort again. You suggest following dogma, and this (in my opinion) is paganism. In addition, this moment in the Bible is described very clearly. And superimposed on this action direct prohibition.
        2. Uncle
          Uncle 24 January 2013 13: 41
          +3
          Quote: vladsolo56
          believers are poorly educated
          The poorly educated spelled together, after people put a dash. No offense, okay?
          1. sincman
            24 January 2013 13: 53
            +1
            Quote: Uncle
            The poorly educated spelled together, after people put a dash. No offense, okay?

            good Class! Well noticed!
            1. Uncle
              Uncle 24 January 2013 15: 19
              +1
              Quote: sincman
              Class!

              I do not want to offend a good person, but truth is dearer to me ... smile
          2. Ilyich
            Ilyich 24 January 2013 15: 44
            +1
            Quote: Uncle
            The poorly educated spelled together, after people put a dash. No offense, okay?

            Exactly! And I’m so used to it on the network that I didn’t even pay attention! good
      2. Igor
        Igor 24 January 2013 08: 40
        -1
        Quote: Ilyich
        Ukraine is an Orthodox state.


        What religion forbids?)))

        Quote: Ilyich
        In addition, information about each resident of Ukraine will be stored not only in the special services of the state, but also in the west - in special centers in Canada or in one of the other NATO member states. This information includes data on the state of health, on bank accounts, on income and expenses, on eye color, on location, and it will always be quickly available to employees of Western special services, the center emphasizes.


        Og, and there will also be information about the key to the apartment where the money is)))
        1. Ilyich
          Ilyich 24 January 2013 09: 07
          +4
          Quote: Igorek
          What religion forbids?)))

          Not religion, but faith.
          Quote: Igorek
          Og, and there will also be information about the key to the apartment where the money is)))

          Yes to me on a drum what they will transfer there. The main thing is that me and my loved ones are not on this list.
          1. Igor
            Igor 24 January 2013 09: 19
            0
            Quote: Ilyich
            Not religion, but faith.


            So do not change, I think no one will force to change the patchport, there are people who still go with the Soviet patchport)))
            1. Ilyich
              Ilyich 24 January 2013 09: 34
              +1
              Quote: Igorek
              So do not change, I think no one will force to change the patchport

              А children??
              1. Igor
                Igor 24 January 2013 09: 46
                +1
                Also may not receive.
  7. Avenger711
    Avenger711 24 January 2013 08: 48
    0
    And under Stalin, the collective farmers were not given a patchport!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 24 January 2013 12: 22
      +1
      Quote: Avenger711
      And under Stalin, the collective farmers were not given a patchport!

      Not true! The collective farmers had identification cards, birth certificates, but if someone went to study or work in the city, then they were issued passports in the city. And this is explained very simply - in the cities there was an increased crime, passports were necessary. And in the villages everyone knew each other, passports did not play such a role - registration, etc.
      1. Avenger711
        Avenger711 24 January 2013 12: 47
        0
        You banter over tantrums about this simply did not understand. :)
        1. sincman
          24 January 2013 12: 59
          0
          Quote: Avenger711
          You banter over tantrums about this simply did not understand. :)

          And you do not joke about "tantrums", but give some serious arguments in favor of the system. Yes, at the same time, give serious counter-arguments against the already exposed arguments of the opponents. That's when you succeed - then you will joke!
  8. Recon
    Recon 24 January 2013 10: 48
    +1
    It's unavoidable. The future is already near, only a small step towards it is described here so far. Total personality control is only a matter of time ... ordinary people cannot get away from it, it seems to me.

    zy special services can now track your every step, if necessary, so "chipization" will only simplify this process.
    1. sincman
      24 January 2013 11: 59
      +2
      Quote: Recon
      It's unavoidable. The future is already near, only a small step towards it is described here so far. Total personality control is only a matter of time ... ordinary people cannot get away from it, it seems to me.

      I beg to differ! The owners of the system have great opportunities to influence every individual in the world, BUT even they are not able to circumvent the right of free choice granted to us! And they have to take our consent to accept the system! It depends on Our WILL to accept this system or not! Each person will have to make this choice!

      Quote: Recon
      zy special services can now track your every step, if necessary, so "chipization" will only simplify this process.

      In this case, you must clearly understand the extent of such tracking. Now they are monitoring only those who need to be monitored. potential does not allow more. After entering the system will follow EVERY person!
      1. Uncle
        Uncle 24 January 2013 13: 54
        +3
        Quote: sincman
        It depends on Our WILL to accept this system or not! Each person will have to make this choice!
        I will say more, if the questions of Faith, the salvation of the soul are touched upon, then you should not ignore the main character, the merciful Lord, seeing our heart's aspirations, will help those who believe in him. That is, the power of God will manifest itself in our, human, weakness. "Son, give me your heart!" This is what the Lord wants, if in our hearts there is no acceptance of not only a chip, a seal, but above all sinful thoughts and deeds, no movements of Satanists and their master will pass. The history of the Church is permeated with cases of God's help to those who believe in it: Smolensk was besieged, the inhabitants imposed a fast on themselves and stood up for prayer in front of the icon of the Mother of God, and the enemy retreated, seeing the innumerable Russian army, which did not exist in reality. If in the heart of a person lives not love for God, but for worldly joys, often sinful, chipping is just for him. It will become easier to sin, it will be harder to pray. I admit that my words will seem like the delirium of a sick person, in Orthodoxy there is a lot that is hidden, hidden, not visible to the layman. This is the inner prayer life, the sacraments, only living such a life understands these subtleties.
      2. Recon
        Recon 24 January 2013 14: 01
        0
        Quote: sincman
        I beg to differ! The owners of the system have great opportunities to influence every individual in the world, BUT even they are not able to circumvent the right of free choice granted to us! And they have to take our consent to accept the system! It depends on Our WILL to accept this system or not! Each person will have to make this choice!


        they must and they can, but the realities are such that no one asks anything from anyone. Do you remember at least one referendum, the results of which were adopted by the authorities? As a vivid example. referendum on the preservation of the USSR.


        Quote: sincman
        In this case, you must clearly understand the extent of such tracking. Now they are monitoring only those who need to be monitored. potential does not allow more. After entering the system will follow EVERY person!

        quite right, that is exactly what I wanted to say.
        1. sincman
          24 January 2013 14: 09
          0
          Quote: Recon
          they must and they can, but the realities are such that no one asks anything from anyone.

          Do not be lazy ... watch the long video after the article. There are all the answers and you will understand what I meant! smile
  9. sincman
    24 January 2013 11: 29
    +4
    Yes, people ... how scary it is to live in this world ... Where, on the one hand, soulless, deceitful, vicious, shameless politicians and bankers are concentrated, and on the other hand, naive, simple-minded, trusting and not very far-sighted individuals, ready to give up give them their freedom, their body and soul! Are you so blind that you are ready to subordinate your will to the western monster without hesitation? Someone doubts that there is only one customer? Can't you see the ABSOLUTE SIMILARITY of the methods of implementation and principles of the system in all countries? In addition, all the methods of implementing the system have long been described and enshrined in European, American and international documents, many of which are in the public domain! Or are you sure of the "kindness" and "inability" of our western "partners"? Then we can say that you have not learned the Lessons of Life, and that People in Libya, Syria, Iraq and many other countries died in vain, and you still did not understand that our enemy does not have a human face!
    What public relations of politicians can we talk about ?! For the most part, politicians are silent on this topic! Mostly ordinary citizens and religious figures are performing! Or do you think that the Dutchman faking these biopassports on a camera is doing his PR? People are simply not indifferent to the problem! So they give evidence and arguments against which the mantras of the lobbyists of the system look miserable, childish babble. In his video report, Shcherbanyuk made very convincing arguments! If you are too lazy to watch his performance to the end - it’s a pity. In the end, as usual, the most interesting! And nobody ... notice, NOBODY has brought the same convincing counterarguments! Everything usually comes down to a flat level of elementary amenities and affirmations that all progressive humanity does.

    Below is another video in the subject ... You can automatically put an equal sign Ukraine = Russia = USA = Europe, etc. since the methodology is the same and the customer is one. Many are simply afraid to admit it to themselves!
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 24 January 2013 11: 41
      -6
      I remember when televisions appeared, the believers called them a devilish invention, when rockets flew into space and generally hissed that the sky was pierced. Video cameras on the streets again violated people's rights. Now here they are for a biometric passport. Ignorance has always suited many politicians, because you can shove anything into the people, they swallow everything.
      1. sincman
        24 January 2013 11: 45
        +1
        Quote: vladsolo56
        Ignorance has always suited many politicians, because you can shove anything into the people, they swallow everything.

        EXACTLY, my friend! Here I agree with you 100%!
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 24 January 2013 12: 26
        +2
        It is something like that, dear VLADSOLO56, but considering our government and those around us .... where is the guarantee that there will be no fraud? What do not hang other people's debts on you?
      3. Vladimir_61
        Vladimir_61 24 January 2013 13: 46
        +1
        vladsolo56. That's right, the TV is not a demonic invention IF used for good purposes. When Edison invented the phonograph, skeptics and ignoramuses scoffed at the news, accusing the author of quackery. Will anyone remember them now? Why am I writing all this. After reflecting on the mass of inventions after 1887 in the field of sound and video recording and image transmission, taking into account the principles by which information carriers are created, it is possible to understand that ALL matter has the property of recording information. This is confirmed by hypersensitive people (not numerous charlatans who benefit from deceiving the gullible) who can read events that have taken place in certain places. So, all the "chernukha" pouring through televisions is recorded in our homes, affecting the psychophysical state of a person. It is not in vain that in the most civilized countries, as they are commonly called, TV presenters are selected according to ENERGY, because knowledgeable people know that even the state of the human psyche is transported through video. Here is a wide field for thought and no miracles.
        1. Vladimir_61
          Vladimir_61 24 January 2013 13: 51
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          Sorry, mistake. It should read "after 1877".
  10. Nechai
    Nechai 24 January 2013 12: 59
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    Quote: Uncle
    . You live without registration - in prison

    If in the city, and even more so categorized, then yes. And in the village - yes, please. Everyone there is flaky and they know you. That's just the liberals are so outraged that the villagers before the 70s in the Union did not have passeparts! Presenting this as non-freedom, as usual, turning everything upside down. Driving us a deza, it’s like a passepartine gives freedom to the brow. And in those days, not only on the railway, but also on Aeroflot PASSPORT no one asked. Again, if you are not going to the border zone, etc.
    Now, as it were, to put it mildly, the state - officials, showing impotence in the issue of criminalizing the everyday life of society, and sometimes actively promoting this, in the clear eye, cries out - only tatal, comprehensive surveillance will help us! I mean, they ...
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 24 January 2013 13: 04
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      As for Aeroflot, you turned down, they always demanded a passport when they bought a ticket at the check-in, and even when they got on a plane. I flew quite a lot in due time
    2. Uncle
      Uncle 24 January 2013 14: 00
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      Quote: Nechai
      that the peasants before the 70s in the Union did not have passeparts!
      Schiarchimandrite Vitaliy was beaten brutally by cops for lack of a passport; he received it only because he had the choice of either a prison for vagrancy or a madhouse. But the parishioners needed him, his prayer support, I had to get a passport.
  11. wbigfire
    wbigfire 24 January 2013 14: 36
    +2
    All weapons should be chipped - from the kitchen knife to the space satellite. It is also necessary to chip all technically sophisticated household devices - from iron to TV, computer, bank card, etc. Then it will not be necessary to stigmatize people. It will always be clear what, how, where, and where the person is taking. And who is he understandable from an ordinary passport, which every self-respecting country can and must reliably protect from fake.
    1. wax
      wax 24 January 2013 16: 04
      +1
      The main question is different - is it possible to trust my personal and in such a huge amount of data to Mr. or a group of Mr. N. And the second question, but how can I control the actions of Mr. N with my data. Unfortunately, technological progress is far ahead of moral progress; rather, even they began to diverge diametrically.
      1. sincman
        24 January 2013 16: 16
        +1
        Quote: Wax
        Unfortunately, technological progress is far ahead of moral progress; rather, even they began to diverge diametrically.

        Key phrase! I think it’s hard to disagree! Even if religious issues are not taken into account, then this fact is decisive and fundamental!
  12. Dimka off
    Dimka off 24 January 2013 15: 00
    +6
    this system makes a person a controlled slave. Man will no longer be free. Power will do whatever it wants with a person. It will be very easy to punish and destroy anyone who disagrees with the regime. Absolutely every step of a person will be monitored and tracked. The person will be directed in the direction that is beneficial to the authorities. Those who disagree and disagree - into the furnace. Those who think that this is all nonsense are deeply mistaken. Now everything is rosy and wonderful, even many see "prospects". It's all bait trapped. There is nothing good there. They just haven't pressed it properly yet. It is necessary to fight this, otherwise the system (and these are global processes) will simply swallow all people and it will be too late to grab hold of the head. So we will not give passage to all globalization processes. The world government must break off in full. But this is on condition that we do not act otherwise - the world dictatorship of "world rulers".
  13. Tatanka Yotanka
    Tatanka Yotanka 24 January 2013 16: 43
    0
    comrades - do not forget that chipization is presented as great good and if in Christianity it is described for a long time, then what we argue here, sooner or later it will be
    1. Uncle
      Uncle 24 January 2013 17: 55
      +2
      Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
      what we argue here, sooner or later it will be

      We are trying to delay the end ....
      1. Tatanka Yotanka
        Tatanka Yotanka 24 January 2013 18: 18
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        Quote: Uncle
        We are trying to delay the end ....

        I think all attempts are futile

        “Nobody knows about that day and hour, nor the angels of heaven, but only my Father alone. Watch therefore, because you do not know what time your Lord will come. But you know that if the master of the house knew what time the thief would come, you would be awake and not let his house be dug up. Therefore, you also must be prepared, for at what hour you do not think, the Son of Man will come. ” (Bible, Matthew 24: 36,42-44)
        1. Trapperxnumx
          Trapperxnumx 25 January 2013 09: 14
          +1
          Well, this does not mean that we should sit down and wait !!!
  14. Balalaikin
    Balalaikin 25 January 2013 17: 22
    +1

    The long-term development strategy of Russia plans to implant chips in people. So planned by the Americans. State Duma Deputy Fedorov on Chipization