After Zaluzhny’s statement, it is more profitable for Zelensky to lose Avdiivka than to maintain control over the city

After a statement by the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny, it becomes more profitable for Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky to lose Avdiivka than to keep it. The commander-in-chief's speech put the Kyiv authorities in a delicate situation.

After all, when Avdiivka falls, the presidential administration may blame Zaluzhny for this, who failed to properly organize the defense of the city, as if squandering “Ukrainian” lands. It will be much worse for Zelensky and his entourage if Avdiivka remains under the control of the Kyiv regime, because then the commander-in-chief will be “on horseback.”

Based on this, the loss of the city is very beneficial for Zelensky’s office from the point of view of the interests of the internal political struggle.

Earlier, the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Valery Zaluzhny, compared the situation in Avdeevka with the events that took place in Artemovsk. He expressed the opinion that in two or three months, as a result of fierce fighting, the Russian army could take Avdiivka under its full control. The general calls on the Ukrainian authorities not to make a tragedy out of this event if it happens.

In his opinion, Kyiv should not dwell on the fact of the loss of one specific settlement, making a “show and sorrow” out of it. Zaluzhny said that preserving the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is also an important task.

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[Trapp1st]

After all, when Avdiivka falls, the presidential administration may make Zaluzhny to blame for this, ... it will be worse for Zelensky and his entourage if Avdiivka remains under the control of the Kyiv regime, because then the commander-in-chief will be “on horseback”

Continuous political games, is there any military expediency to hold Avdiivka for the Ukrainian Armed Forces?

[dmi.pris1]

Of course there are, as well as several other settlements close to Donetsk. From there they can fire at the city with cannon artillery

[Trapp1st]

From there they can bombard the city with cannon artillery

This is also an element of political pressure; there is no military sense in striking a city market or anything like that.

[dmi.pris1]

Well, they’re not only hitting the market. They’re hitting government institutions, scouted (surrendered by the waiters) temporary accommodation centers for military personnel

[Trapp1st]

reconnaissance (surrendered by the waiters) temporary accommodation points for military personnel

Unfortunately, Donetsk is not unique here. They clearly demonstrate that, if necessary, they can beat a pretty penny for hundreds of kilometers.

[isv000]

Quote: Trapp1st

Continuous political games, is there any military expediency to hold Avdiivka for the Ukrainian Armed Forces?

Exactly the same as defending the entire remaining outskirts. In fact, the girls don’t have many options: roll back to Lvov, losing people and abandoning weapons, surrender en masse to the Russian army, or “hold the line”, finally burying themselves in the ground...

[Trapp1st]

Exactly the same as defending the entire remaining outskirts.

The task of the troops is to defeat the enemy, and the surrender or capture of the forester’s house is carried out only based on the solution of the main task - defeating the enemy so that he can no longer resist (win the war). Everything else is just politics.

[Tagan]

Quote: Trapp1st

Continuous political games, is there any military expediency to hold Avdievka?

At least for the Ukrainian Reich there is at least a terrorist expediency to terrorize Donetsk.

[cat-begemot]

If they had somewhere to run, they would have lost everything long ago, grabbed the money and disappeared.

[Team]

Based on this, the loss of the city is very beneficial for Zelensky’s office from the point of view of the interests of the internal political struggle.

Some kind of concocted thesis...

[Trapp1st]

Some kind of concocted thesis...

It was the same story with Artemovsk. What has changed for the Ukrainian Armed Forces in military terms? But the ratings dropped a little.

[glock-17]

Avdiivka is a convenient springboard for an attack on Donetsk. The Germans also held on to the Rzhev ledge for a long time, hoping for a new attack on Moscow. In the end they left anyway.

[Trapp1st]

Avdiivka is a convenient springboard for an attack on Donetsk.

Well, if they find enough forces to take Donetsk, the presence or absence of control over the erased Avdiivka will no longer play a role.

[rotmistr60]

the loss of the city is very beneficial for Zelensky’s office from the point of view of the interests of the internal political struggle.

I don’t know if this is beneficial for Zelensky in the internal political struggle today, but before this he calmly went against Zaluzhny’s proposals, forcing him to defend every broken-down house, showing Western curators that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are fighting with full dedication. In any case, the loss of this settlement in this case cannot be attributed to Zaluzhny alone, because he himself gave the order for this. Of course, it’s better for us that the Ukrainians themselves leave Avdeevka, because in this case we avoid additional losses. And at the exit there is the opportunity to strike at them.

[Trapp1st]

defend every broken-down house by showing it to Western curators

Western curators recommended surrendering Artemovsk and concentrating on a counteroffensive, but ratings within the country turned out to be more important.

[ratoborets]

In his opinion, Kyiv should not dwell on the fact of the loss of one specific settlement, making a “show and sorrow” out of it. Zaluzhny said that preserving the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is also an important task.

Based on what Zaluzhny and Zelensky say, if this is not a staging or a performance, then it is better for the Russian Armed Forces that the Armed Forces of Ukraine follow Zelensky’s wishes.

The initiative in the Avdeevka area is on the side of the Russian Armed Forces, Avdeevka is semi-encircled - from three sides by the Russian Armed Forces, is being shot at by Russian artillery, any transfer of reinforcements or rotation risks being under heavy fire from Russian artillery, suffering serious losses before even reaching positions in Avdeevka. Objectively, it is beneficial for the RF Armed Forces to grind down the enemy near Avdeevka for months, this is better than head-on or assaults.
There is one problem - Donetsk is under fire from Avdeevka, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are well aware of this and take advantage of it by shelling civilians.

[Simon_Dellsen]

Tarde o temprano Kiev será derrotado.

Esperemos que sea más bien para mañana...

No se si en si mismo todo esto es una payasada más del régimen banderista con el payaso Ronald mac zelenska a la cabeza, lo cierto, como dijo el analistas español Francisco José Fernandez-Cruz.

En la guerra operacional ucrania esta derrotada.
En la guerra aérea, ucrania esa derrotada
En la guerra electrónica, ucrania está derrotada.
En la guerra de personal (militar), ucrania está derrotada.
En la guerra económica, ucrania está derrotada

Y hay más pero no quiero ser repetitivo.

Ucrania es un zombie que aún no sabe que está muerto.

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Sooner or later Kyiv will be defeated.

Let's hope this happens sooner rather than later...

I don’t know whether all this in itself is another trick of the Bandera regime with the clown Ronald Mac Zelenskaya at its head, as Spanish analyst Francisco Jose Fernandez-Cruz said.

Ukraine was defeated in the operational war.
Ukraine was defeated in the air war
Ukraine was defeated in the electronic war.
Ukraine was defeated in the personnel (military) war.
Ukraine was defeated in the economic war

And that's not all, but I don't want to repeat myself.

Ukraine is a zombie who does not yet know that he is dead.