The Telegraph: Russia is approaching a crushing victory

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The Telegraph: Russia is approaching a crushing victory

More and more materials are appearing in the Western press in which journalists and military experts express the opinion that Kyiv’s further attempts to win a military victory over Russia are futile. At the same time, the authors of the articles warn of an extremely difficult situation that Ukraine’s allies may find themselves in.

Similar material was recently published in the British newspaper The Telegraph. At the same time, the headline speaks for itself: “Putin’s Russia is approaching a crushing victory. The foundations of Europe are shaking."



The author of the article, British Lord Daniel Hannan, states that the counter-offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which Kiev’s allies, including Britain, were counting on, completely failed due to the fact that Russian troops managed to build a reliable line of defense. As a result, today's military technology favors the defender.

As in 1914, a fortified line runs along the entire length of the front, from the Dnieper delta to the Russian border

- writes Hannan.

The expert emphasizes that Ukraine’s allies, despite not participating in the conflict, are quite heavily “invested” in it. Therefore, Russia’s victory in the current confrontation, among other things, will greatly hit the reputation of the collective West.

Moreover, the author believes that any truce concluded on Russia's terms would be catastrophic for NATO, demonstrating to the world the alliance's inability to save the country that its two most powerful members, the United States and Great Britain, have pledged to defend.

At the same time, the British lord is confident that the conflict must still end with an agreement. However, one that will not openly encourage, as he put it, “Russian aggression.”

The essence of the idea of ​​the author of the Sunday article is that during the negotiations Kiev should achieve autonomy for the eastern regions (apparently, they are talking about the LPR and DPR, which are part of the Russian Federation) under free Ukrainian suzerainty, as well as holding a referendum in the “demilitarized” Crimea (which is also is Russian). He does not mention the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions.

Tellingly, according to Hannan, this option is still possible today.

Such statements clearly demonstrate that, despite some “epiphany,” the West is still far from reality.
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    1. The comment was deleted.
      1. +2
        11 December 2023 16: 33
        That is, you seem to cry about the fate of the Slavs (of South Russian and Great Russian origin), and then propose to bomb the Slavukrov with almost atomic bombs?
        Quote: Sulla__Glorious
        Regarding the use of large thermobaric bombs 3; 5 tons (you can drop nine for show).

        Already decide what you want.
        1. -2
          11 December 2023 17: 02
          Winning with slow and indecisive actions is many times bloodier and more destructive than tough and fast. (Free retelling of many famous military leaders.) Winning without nuclear weapons is possible only with real and sensitive actions. I will list a few: isolation (possibly ELIMINATION) of the government and presidency, destruction of ALL bridges on the Dnieper, destruction of all junction railway stations, shutdown of TV and radio broadcasting, shutdown of the Internet, elimination of the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Security Service of Ukraine, creation of an alternative government of Ukraine, etc. Not bloody actions at all, compared to HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of killed citizens on HUGE FRONTS, the loss of many thousands of tanks and other military and civilian equipment. But all this has been going on for TWO YEARS! This is what we have today, and without prospects it is significant to win...crying
          1. +4
            11 December 2023 18: 34
            Quote: Sulla__Glorious
            isolation (possibly ELIMINATION) of the government and presidency, destruction of ALL bridges on the Dnieper, destruction of all railway junctions, shutdown of TV and radio broadcasting, shutdown of the Internet, elimination of the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Security Service of Ukraine, creation of an alternative government of Ukraine

            I recently posted a joke about a wise owl - it fits very well with your proposal.
          2. +2
            11 December 2023 20: 47
            It seems that Suvorov would not have sat still and waited for a decision from the UN.
            Somehow Israel doesn’t really look around and ask for advice.
            And we actually have nothing to lose. Well, at most, a couple hundred more restrictions will be introduced.
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            1. +1
              13 December 2023 14: 13
              The old American grandfather doesn’t care, he will tell everyone how his son stopped the Second World War with nuclear bombs in 45 and will suggest starting to use nuclear weapons.
        2. -2
          12 December 2023 07: 12
          Quote: 30 vis
          you seem to be crying about the fate of the Slavs

          @
          Quote: 30 vis
          , and then propose to bomb Slavaukrov

          And what is wrong?
          Firstly, this is something from the category of “I gave birth to you, I will kill you.”
          Kakoliks are perceived as Judases and behave like devils. Why not bomb?

          Again about the Slavs. The Poles are also Slavs, but with such Slavs there is no need for Teutons/hordes...
          Not all Slavs are equally useful. And the division by nationality. this is a bad idea.

          We don’t like HandeKhokhlovs not because they are Ukrainians, but because of their behavior, which was disgusting long before the Northern Military District, and even before the Maidan no no yes it smelled (spoiled small nations?). Now it’s just an association, like “xohol == those devils over there, which means it’s extremely bad.”
        3. 0
          12 December 2023 07: 33
          Of course, bomb, the Ukrainians had 2 years to overthrow the junta and become part of the Russian Federation. They didn’t do this, which means everyone who remained in Ukraine is a potential dry-weaver.
          1. -3
            12 December 2023 09: 23
            and you are not a potential, but a real Nazi, taking revenge for 1945? Bastards, Vlasovites
        4. -1
          12 December 2023 19: 01
          In any country, including Russia and Britain, there are differing opinions. And our journalists choose articles mainly only those that reassure our people. That's all!!!
    2. +10
      11 December 2023 16: 31
      We need to think about Guyana and Scotland. And not about the “referendum in Crimea” that took place 10 years ago.
      There is a more recent referendum - in Venezuela!
      1. +13
        11 December 2023 16: 59
        Journalists and military experts express the opinion that Kyiv’s further attempts to win a military victory over Russia are futile.

        I really don’t understand... In the West, someone seriously believed in the “prospects” of Ukraine’s victory over Russia...??? If so, then the EU needs to be treated in the next ward, next to the ward for “Nezalezhnaya”... How badly you know Russia... And Ukraine too... And your opponents, like your allies, need to be studied, and very seriously and not engage in hat-throwing... “Hap-throwing” is ours, dear, and only we are allowed to do it... lol
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        2. +1
          12 December 2023 14: 50
          So why should they think otherwise after we exchanged NATO expansion to the east for beads and for more than 20 years did nothing but anxiously back away, drawing some red lines?
          And the very form of the SVO does not speak of any determination at the level of a national idea in the style of “everything to the front, everything for the front.”
          That’s why the lords and other trash think, and unfortunately it’s not unreasonable, that it will be possible to negotiate profitably for the next beads - we’ll get you back to Swift, and you’ll return Crimea
    3. -5
      11 December 2023 16: 35
      Everything is real, we just need NORMAL solutions, but with them it’s really BAD. Ours use weapons only when the Ukrainian Armed Forces use them.
      Is this how military operations are conducted?! ALL possible means are used for the fastest victory. And at SVO, it seems they’re not really in a hurry to win. It seems that the goal is the extermination of the Slavs: both Ukrainian and Russian. Regarding the use of large thermobaric bombs of 3-5 tons (you can drop NINE for show). First, the area is cleared of air defense, then they are dropped from a high altitude (12-15 km), in the presence of fighters covering them from air defense missiles and other threats. But these and similar actions are NOT carried out. Why? So the goals of the SVO are different...crying
      1. +7
        11 December 2023 18: 28
        Quote: Sulla__Glorious
        Ours use weapons only when the Ukrainian Armed Forces use them.
        Is this how military operations are conducted?! ALL possible means are used for the fastest victory.

        And so everything is applied as it is. Another thing is that there is not much that is needed. But a lot has been written about the state of Russian industry for a long time...
        Quote: Sulla__Glorious
        First, the area is cleared of air defense

        If you don't have a house, just buy a house - that's it, problem solved.
      2. +1
        12 December 2023 06: 47
        I’m glad that you guessed, the main goal is the extermination of the Slavs, you don’t need to be an expert here
      3. +3
        12 December 2023 14: 59
        Everything is simpler and sadder - on the one hand, we cannot resolve the issue with a forced march along the Polish border for both objective and political reasons, and at the same time this is not beneficial for us - the bet was initially placed on the fact that Ukraine would become a suitcase for the West without pens, a kind of black resource hole, because of which these spiders in the bank quarrel, weakening their positions
        And now the time has come to extract maximum benefit from the turmoil in the enemy’s camp - both from the perspective of the US elections and their subsequent “mood,” and from the perspective of a rapidly “ruling” Europe.
        That's why bridges and other infrastructure are intact - why bomb something that may soon have to be restored?
        We are now putting the collective West in an increasingly uncomfortable split - either abandon the suitcase a la Afghanistan-2, or join in further - with a high risk of losing power, vainly explaining this to an increasingly sober electorate
        1. 0
          18 December 2023 18: 35
          The Ukrainian Armed Forces' bridges will be blown up even without us when the time comes. We're all being modest
    4. +8
      11 December 2023 16: 36
      The foundations of Europe are shaking
      Are the Nazis losing?
    5. +14
      11 December 2023 16: 37
      Wow, Britain is already one of the most powerful members of NATO, with its hundreds of tanks!
      1. +8
        11 December 2023 16: 48
        And who prevented them from preserving the army, navy, aircraft carriers, their aviation industry, their missile program, their space, their tank building... Now there is no point in blaming the mirror if the face is crooked
        1. +7
          11 December 2023 16: 57
          I think they were prevented by the inability to continue to plunder the colonies as before. But they continue to stick their face everywhere
        2. +4
          11 December 2023 17: 03
          So the “rocket program” probably got in the way. I have not heard about their achievements in the field of space and rocket technologies request
          And after the Second World War, they generally fell off the scene. Since then they have only rotted and become covered with mold.
    6. HAM
      +8
      11 December 2023 16: 38
      The Lord, as usual, does not feel sorry for people, but for wasted money.
      And so, why do we need any negotiations now, especially on conditions imposed by someone?
      They are spinning around like in a frying pan, coming up with the next... deceptions.
    7. +8
      11 December 2023 16: 43
      Krynki and Antonovsky railway bridge. From the ground they report the enemy's retreat from under the bridge over the Konka River; thermal imagers simply do not detect the presence of living infantry of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. On the island behind the bridge, the VSUshnikov are also not noticeable. The impression is that they left.
      1. +2
        11 December 2023 17: 13
        Are the Ukrainians really starting to guess something? what This is bad
      2. 0
        12 December 2023 07: 17
        Quote: carpenter
        Impression that they left.

        That's it, that's the impression. It's the 21st century.
        Now it would take about 5 days for quads to view everything flying right above the ground. And there are no guarantees that they will notice.
        So, if you have time and not too much money, it is quite possible to establish a connection and install a machine gun/ATGM on a remote control.
    8. +4
      11 December 2023 16: 44
      Pokud dojde k vyjednávání o míru, jednoznačně to bude jen podle Ruských podmínek a pravidel. Západ totálně selhal, proto musí zaplatit za lži ve smlouvách, které měli Rusko zdržet, aby Ukrajina měla čas se připravit na válku. Hlupáci na západě jako by zapomněli, kdo je to Rusko, které nikdy neprohrává, ani nemůže! Then by prohrál celý svět. Už už se západní banky a fašisti těšili, jak si rozdělí Rusko na kousky, rozdělí si bohatství Ruska a udělají si z východní Evropy část plnou otroků, kteří se nebudou mít č ím branit. Proto i pro velkou část Evropy je vítězství Ruska na Ukrajině nadějí na mír a světlo na konci tunelu!
      1. +11
        11 December 2023 16: 44
        If there are peace negotiations, then, obviously, they will take place only according to Russian conditions and rules. The West has completely failed, so it has to pay for lying in the treaties that were supposed to delay Russia so that Ukraine would have time to prepare for war. The fools in the West seem to have forgotten who Russia is, it will never lose and cannot! Then the whole world will lose. Western banks and fascists were already looking forward to how they would divide Russia into parts, divide up Russia's wealth and make Eastern Europe a part full of slaves who would have nothing to defend themselves with. Therefore, even for a significant part of Europe, Russia’s victory in Ukraine is hope for peace and light at the end of the tunnel!
        1. +3
          11 December 2023 17: 08
          Colleague! With the help of your comments you can learn written Czech! good drinks
          1. +1
            11 December 2023 18: 06
            Rád bych reagoval, ale nedává to smysl, asi to špatně přeložilo. Omlouvám se.
            1. 0
              11 December 2023 18: 06
              I would like to answer, but it doesn’t make sense, it was probably translated incorrectly. I'm sorry.
        2. 0
          15 December 2023 14: 04
          Mate naprostou pravdu. Ale vůbec nechápu, proč se EU dostává do konfliktu na Ukrajině? Opravdu věří pohádkám Washingtonu o porážce Ruské federace ? A tím spíš, že Ukrajina (s jejím potenciálem může porazit Rusko)?!?! Kluci z Washingtonu říkají Evropanům: nic nedělejte, zlikvidujte Putinův režim, postavte svého prezidenta a všechny zdroje Ruské federace budou naše zdarma. Nesmysl! Pokud by se rozpadla i Ruská federace (což je při současných podmínkách naprosto nereálné! 00: 03: 33proto budou zdroje pouze americké. Jak oni ( Američané) už vzali všechny černozemy na Ukrajinu. Ale EU proč?!?! Aby dostal šanci na nějaký malý kousek koláče?!?!
      2. 0
        15 December 2023 14: 02
        You are absolutely right. But I don’t understand at all why the EU is getting involved in the conflict in Ukraine? Do they really believe Washington's tales about the defeat of the Russian Federation? And especially since Ukraine (with its potential can defeat the Russian Federation)?!?! The guys from Washington are telling the Europeans: Don’t be patient, we’ll overthrow Putin’s regime, install our own president, and all the resources of the Russian Federation will be ours for free. Rave! If the Russian Federation is defeated (which is absolutely unrealistic in the current situation!), then the resources in any case will be only American. How they (the Americans) have already grabbed all the black soil in Ukraine. But why does the EU need this?!?! To get a chance at some tiny piece of the pie?!?!
    9. +7
      11 December 2023 16: 44
      It is noteworthy that there are still 5 months. ago The Telegraph, where Hannan’s article was published, published materials about Russia’s proximity to complete defeat and the victorious troops of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which are pushing back the army of our country on all fronts
      .“Putin is finished and his country will soon fall apart”
      But, as usual, everything turned out to be completely different. Now Hannan has to admit the obvious: the West has no way to stop Russia and does not foresee it.
      https://t.me/analizbezgranic/4281
      1. +4
        11 December 2023 17: 00
        Quote: Ascetic
        It is noteworthy that there are still 5 months. ago The Telegraph, where Hannan’s article was published, published materials about Russia’s proximity to complete defeat and the victorious troops of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which are pushing back the army of our country on all fronts

        I also heard about this today.
        The quality and speed of changing shoes in the jump of “Telegraph” and Hannan are personally amazing. They are similar to our Hydrometeorological Center, which issues the most accurate forecast for yesterday, and an error-free forecast for the day before yesterday.
      2. 0
        11 December 2023 18: 25
        I don’t believe these promises either - with Russia’s victory. Seriously, you can see more such voices from Western media than from ours! This is some kind of nonsense. For now, I think that they are either trying to fool our heads somehow, or, most likely, experts and newspaper editors, in an attempt to attract attention to their modest publications, are making yet another hot and precise forecasts.
    10. +4
      11 December 2023 16: 59
      They hover there in their dreams. What are the conditions in Ukraine there?!! Such a state should not exist.
      But as for borders, it’s a delicate matter... It’s stupid to give all Ukrainians the green light to roam around Russia. Enough years must pass for at least some reformatting of the brains of our “dear brothers.” Therefore, the issue of cordons will be acute.
    11. +10
      11 December 2023 17: 19
      That is, the lord in good faith proposes to give the LDPR and Crimea to Ukraine, not to mention the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions. And this after the words “Russia is approaching a crushing victory”

      I have one question:
      Did the Lord have a good snack yesterday?
    12. +1
      11 December 2023 17: 33
      1. Denial - Refusal of agreements. Entering into conflict.
      2.Anger - Financing. Sanctions. Russophobia.
      3.Bargaining - Strengthening sanctions. Increased funding.
      4. Depression - Decrease in funding. Reduced information blockade. Fatigue of the population and economy.
      5. Acceptance - Surrender on Russia's terms.
    13. +2
      11 December 2023 18: 22
      More and more materials are appearing in the Western press in which journalists and military experts express the opinion that Kyiv’s further attempts to win a military victory over Russia are futile.

      Oh oh oh. It’s strange when propaganda starts broadcasting such things. Everything seems to me that something is wrong. There is a fear that now we will be fed the belief in a quick victory like the Ukrainians before their “counter-offensive”, and then nothing special will happen, and we will hang our heads out of the blue. In general, for now I suggest not to believe in these promises, so that if they come true, you will be more happy, and if nothing comes true, you will not simply be upset.
    14. +1
      11 December 2023 18: 26
      And what about the “foundations of Europe” - who touched them?
    15. +10
      11 December 2023 18: 57
      Damn dinosaurs. After 9 years, it came to their attention and they decided to give autonomy to the DLNR and hold a referendum in Crimea. Kyiv must achieve a referendum and autonomy... Are they winning? The winner always dictates the terms. And there is no need to be lenient towards the vanquished - not a single good deed goes unpunished. Lithuania received Klaipeda and Vilna, now it has blocked Kaliningrad. Poland received as much German land from Stalin as it now demands compensation. The Union created Kazakhstan out of the blue, tearing it off in pieces from its neighbors, most of it was the land of Russian Cossacks with the main city of Verny, now Almaty, and now these Kaisaks are opening their mouths on the Russians.
      Do good, do...
    16. +2
      11 December 2023 19: 43
      Despite some "epiphany", the West is still far from reality.

      “Far away” is an understatement, they are really in another world. Through the looking glass.
    17. +1
      11 December 2023 20: 58
      This means that in order for the notorious West to begin to come into reality, it must be constantly beaten with a whip, rods, batogs, a stupid serf has been caught
    18. +1
      11 December 2023 23: 09
      Now that mouth has become an asshole for the press in the service of the United States.
    19. +2
      12 December 2023 05: 15
      Peace in the remnants of Banderlogiya is possible ONLY when it is sanitarily cleared of the Anglo-Saxon scum!
    20. +2
      12 December 2023 12: 13
      What a dreamer. I am a Crimean myself, so let’s hold a second referendum, isn’t it obvious how it will end? I worked in the past, the crowd was banging on the doors and then no one had any doubts and now there are none about its result. What kind of nonsense is this? As for the suzerainty of the LDPR, it has already been spelled out. People shed blood for no reason at all, and I have a question: is the author not a stupid person, to suggest such a thing? I mean Hanan, of course, and not the author of the note.
      It would be possible to discuss such a topic from a strong position, for example, on the eve of a counterattack. I thought that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would achieve much more serious results, but they, in fact, collapsed into the background. And now, when Ukraine has suffered a strategic defeat, which we are silent about, by the way, talking about some kind of conditions there is simply stupid.
    21. +1
      12 December 2023 20: 31
      During the negotiations, Kyiv must achieve autonomy for the eastern regions (apparently, they are talking about the LPR and DPR, which are part of the Russian Federation) under free Ukrainian suzerainty, as well as holding a referendum in the “demilitarized” Crimea (which is also Russian).
      - and this lord is a rare brake....
    22. +2
      13 December 2023 01: 51
      Such statements clearly demonstrate that, despite some “epiphany,” the West is still far from reality.

      Because we have victories for the year only in Artemovsk and several vegetable gardens. In order for them to understand everything about themselves and their situation, Kharkov must be liberated!
    23. 0
      17 December 2023 01: 54
      I read the title, and then the end of the article, as they say, we started for health and ended for peace.
    24. 0
      17 December 2023 03: 36
      The opinion of another narrow-minded lord from Small Britain named Petrov and Sidorov-Bashirov is interesting to everyone. There is just no doubt about this.

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