“In order to protect interests in the Arctic”: Russia will consider the option of withdrawing from the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea

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“In order to protect interests in the Arctic”: Russia will consider the option of withdrawing from the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea

Russia will consider withdrawing from the Convention on the Law of the Sea in connection with the current situation in the world and the need to protect Russian interests in the Arctic. The West has recently made claims to the Northern Sea Route.

Adopted in 1982, the Convention on the Law of the Sea defines a 12-mile zone of territorial waters where the state establishes its laws. Russia joined the convention in 1997, thereby allowing foreign ships, submarines and aircraft to remain in the Arctic outside the 12-mile zone without any notification or permission. Today, Western countries, and primarily the United States, intend to declare the Northern Sea Route “international”, given its importance for the passage of ships from Asia to Europe.



Since 2012, Russia has secured the status of the Northern Sea Route as an inland transport artery, but the Americans do not agree with this. The only way out is to denounce the convention with its 12-mile zone in order to expel foreign ships from our sector of the Arctic, who feel “at home” there.

Until the Americans came up with this 1982 convention, the entire Arctic was divided into sectors. There are only five Arctic states: Russia, Denmark, Norway, Canada, USA. But the Americans were not happy with this; it turned out that Russia had more than 60% of the Arctic coast, and they only had 7%. They came up with this convention, we foolishly ratified it, and got into trouble. Of course, we need to raise the question of whether we are withdrawing from the convention, because the Northern Sea Route is our internal transport artery

- lead "News" words of Advisor to the Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy on Arctic issues, Vice Admiral Anatoly Shevchenko.

According to State Duma deputy Nikolai Novichkov, the relevant parliamentary committees will soon discuss the issue of denunciation of the convention and put it on the agenda.
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  1. +72
    11 December 2023 07: 11
    Yes, with a popularly elected drunk, we got ourselves into a lot of trouble.
    1. +47
      11 December 2023 07: 28
      Quote: Metallurg_2
      Yes, with a popularly elected drunk, we got ourselves into a lot of trouble.
      Yeahhh.... really...
      Kozyrev Used Minister Indel feels great in the states these days!
      The memoir describes how he cleverly traded with Russia’s interests.
      1. +30
        11 December 2023 07: 55
        Kozyrev Used Minister Indel feels great in the states these days!

        Bastard! And there was more than one such drunk under the former president...
        1. The comment was deleted.
        2. +4
          12 December 2023 01: 38
          And even now, those who destroyed Russia and made money from it are allegedly starting to restore it and are again making a business out of it
    2. -1
      11 December 2023 08: 01
      The president elected by the people using American rubles is a traitor. Our people had a relative attitude towards the election of a drunk.
      1. +24
        11 December 2023 08: 22
        Don't deceive yourself! How long can you live with the myth of a wise and highly spiritual God-bearing people? The people are earthly people, with their weaknesses, strengths and weaknesses.
      2. +11
        11 December 2023 09: 16
        Quote from: d4.fokin
        Our people had a relative attitude towards the election of a drunk.

        Well, yes, when I said in St. Petersburg in 1997 - “You chose a drunk again!” then they correctly explained to me, “You didn’t choose him and it’s not for you to criticize him!” I escaped with a black eye.
      3. +7
        11 December 2023 19: 10
        In this case, it is generally necessary to write in quotation marks, if Zyuganov’s knees had not started shaking in 1996, the drunk would not have passed
        1. +7
          12 December 2023 01: 41
          Zyuganov is the well-fed opposition. He does and says exactly what he is allowed to do
        2. +2
          12 December 2023 08: 12
          If Zyu’s hands hadn’t started shaking, the drunkard had a decree on the table on the introduction of a state of emergency with a State Department visa. The reason was the war in Chechnya. And then - approximately as it is now in VNA 404: during the Great Patriotic War and the State of Emergency, we do not hold elections.
      4. -1
        12 December 2023 16: 28
        Who are your people? Fairies of Middle-earth? In Russia, Yeltsin was elected by the Russians..
    3. +3
      11 December 2023 08: 14
      ....with a popularly elected drunk, we got ourselves into a lot of trouble....

      Also 78% of the 1600 “interviewed” in October 1993 supported? wink
      How is it, the “patriots” approved everything, did they complete the construction of the Yeltsin Center in Moscow or did they take a time out? lol
    4. +12
      11 December 2023 08: 42
      Quote: Metallurg_2
      Yes, with a popularly elected drunk, we got ourselves into a lot of trouble.

      I don't agree with you. But didn’t this happen under Gorbachev? And we didn’t get into the WTO under Boris’s never-drying regime. request
    5. +9
      11 December 2023 10: 03
      Quote: Metallurg_2
      Yes, with a popularly elected drunk, we got ourselves into a lot of trouble.

      I don’t feel safe with No Alternative either. And no matter how hard I try, I don’t see anything good for the country in the next 20 years. Pardon me for being pessimistic.
      Regarding the topic, I think withdrawing from the agreement is correct. Walk like that! Let the bastards choke.
    6. +7
      11 December 2023 11: 26
      when popularly elected

      I confess, I didn’t choose him the first time, and especially after the drunken dancing...
      So, not publicly, and there were probably many of them...
      1. +3
        11 December 2023 13: 05
        Quote: Ilnur
        I confess, I didn’t choose him the first time, and especially after the drunken dancing...
        So, not publicly, and there were probably many of them...

        Yes many.
        Especially in St. Petersburg, who is familiar with the background. I'm like that myself. hi
    7. GAF
      +4
      11 December 2023 17: 04
      Yes, with a popularly elected drunk, we got ourselves into a lot of trouble.

      You never know what happens when you're drunk. But after the hangover, it’s time to draw the borders that were in the USSR - along the meridians to the pole from the Bering Strait and from the border with Norway, and do not forget to return under your jurisdiction the part of the Bering Sea that was given to the Yankees by Gorbach...
  2. +6
    11 December 2023 07: 13
    The Northern Sea Route is our internal transport artery -

    ***
    - “Don’t go for a walk in the Arctic, Yankees!” ...
    ***
    1. +1
      12 December 2023 11: 09
      Okay, let’s denounce it, and then what? Red-brown-green features? Realistically, what can we do?
  3. +11
    11 December 2023 07: 17
    The denunciation will affect, in addition to the Arctic, the Baltic Sea with its straits, the Black Sea, the Pacific seas....
    1. +13
      11 December 2023 07: 30
      Quote from Voronezh
      The denunciation will affect, in addition to the Arctic, the Baltic Sea with its straits, the Black Sea, the Pacific seas....
      So then we won’t even recognize other people’s 12 miles.
      Otherwise, there was no room left for our pipes in the Gulf of Finland.
      They got tired of begging the Tribaltic Extinctions and Dates.
      1. +2
        11 December 2023 16: 27
        Got tired of begging
        Moreover, they begged the Danes more than the Tribalts and Finns... but in the end they paved the way. And why?
        But because we relied on the IMP and the UN Convention on the freedom to lay cables and pipelines even through the territorial waters of foreign countries. And only any problems with environmental safety can slow down or prohibit the implementation of their installation. They managed to prove the case for the gas pipeline, but the oil pipeline would hardly have been allowed.
        So in the NSR, our main trump card is the ecology of the Arctic, and then only the strength and will of the state.
        1. -1
          12 December 2023 19: 03
          In addition to the straits, they forgot to list that they will have to forget about the 200-mile economic zone (the Japanese and Korean fishermen will rejoice, and the Norwegians too), about the natural resources of the shelf, about entering foreign waters for repairs and refueling. Our Register was banned, Russia was expelled from the IMO, to this Vice Admiral Anatoly Shevchenko, the modern Russian fleet seems to be the same as in the 80s. But over the past 25 years, the Russian Navy has shrunk to obscene proportions. Compare the DKBF and the NATO fleet in the Baltic.
    2. +7
      11 December 2023 07: 32
      Quote from Voronezh
      The denunciation will affect, in addition to the Arctic, the Baltic Sea with its straits, the Black Sea, the Pacific seas....

      Why did it happen ? For each case (sea, strait systems, etc.) there are separate agreements, conventions and treaties. If they try to hinder us, we will conduct them under escort. This is me already talking about the Danish Straits.
      1. AUL
        +3
        11 December 2023 08: 49
        Quote: bayard
        If they try to hinder us, we will conduct them under escort. This is me already talking about the Danish Straits.

        Be realistic! With our slender Baltic Fleet and their coastal defense, this is not serious!
        1. 0
          11 December 2023 10: 18
          Quote from AUL
          Be realistic! With our slender Baltic Fleet and their coastal defense, this is not serious!

          What does "frivolously" mean? Will they close the straits to us by force of arms?
          Seriously ?
          Will they be held accountable for seriousness?
          If they dare, they will answer accurately.
          To escort merchant ships, it is enough for us to keep a couple of corvettes on both sides of the straits. To discourage piracy.
          Good manners have already begun to be taught to these European inadequates in the Arab monarchies of the Persian Gulf. If they don't have enough shame, we'll add more. And we will teach until they become silk and law-abiding. And they will live not according to concepts and “rules”, but according to the Law.
          To put an end to the issue of European arrogance and whims once and for all, we only need to spend no more than a quarter of our tactical nuclear weapons arsenal. But there are even simpler and more radical solutions. When all this crap is simply washed away into the sea. And the straits can be expanded if desired, if they are bothering someone.
          Even Angelic patience has a limit.
          1. -1
            12 December 2023 19: 06
            After the use of nuclear weapons, the issue of shipping will no longer be relevant. For all. There is no one to trade with. Before you brawl in the pub, you and the admiral need to cut off the front sight on the Colt
      2. +1
        11 December 2023 16: 14
        It is always interesting to compare our NSR with the NWP (Northern Passage) around Canada. Does Canada consider its UWB closed to freedom of navigation? It turns out no, and even though it runs everywhere between the Canadian islands - go, I don’t want to!
        Another thing is that no one goes, it’s more expensive for themselves and UWB is not yet in demand for shipping. But in principle, what is the difference? Most of the route along the NSR passes away from territorial waters, but even transit through territorial waters without threatening the interests of the state is considered free for everyone. And we still have the main trump card - the environmental safety of the Arctic. The trump card is good and we remember how much they bullied us with this when laying SP-1 and SP-2 in the Baltic Sea. But the law (MMP) was on our side and we finally achieved permission.
    3. +2
      11 December 2023 08: 14
      That's it. Denunciation of the Convention will lead to the fact that foreign ships will be able to completely ignore Russian territorial waters. This is the first thing. Secondly, what will this actually give Russia? Now the Convention at least somehow controls activities in territorial waters, but what will happen when it is denounced unilaterally? What can Russia oppose to Western countries simply ignoring the ownership of waters in Russian territory? As the passage of an English destroyer almost near Sevastopol itself, which was sensational in its time, showed, Russia currently does not have any direct or indirect levers to hinder the activities of Western powers in its waters, except for the notorious “protest.” There is also a legal claim that the Russian Federation should apply to ships that violate the Convention, but it is unknown whether the Russian Federation has ever used this opportunity.... It seems that Russia’s rights in terms of international law have been and are being put under pressure in the West. And this is a consequence of the fact that for decades the Ministry of Foreign Affairs has not resorted to any lawsuits or lawsuits with “partners,” preferring a policy of “appeasement.” The result is obvious. Characteristic is the calm response of the commander of the English destroyer then, to a warning from the Russian side that “you are in the territorial waters of the Russian Federation!”: “Hmm, I don’t think so.” Before waving your fists, you should always think: “and Is it really possible to hit the enemy so that he feels it? And what consequences will all this lead to: both in the short and long term? "Otherwise, empty threats and actions that lead to absolutely no consequences for the other side expose you simply, in a stupid and funny way.
      1. +4
        11 December 2023 08: 30
        “Is it really possible to hit the enemy so that he feels it?”
        ...will appear. if they really withdraw from this convention...or remind what the inviolable borders of the USSR were in the Arctic?..so...the Russian Federation is recognized as the legal successor of the USSR.that is, along with the debts and territories...the debts were paid, therefore the territories must be taken away. ..by leaving the convention the courts can be interned and otherwise destroyed...but at the moment there is no such possibility
        1. +7
          11 December 2023 10: 10
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          The Russian Federation is recognized as the legal successor of the USSR. That is, along with debts and territories...the debts were paid, therefore the territories must be taken back...

          Alas, our succession does not correspond in any way to the size of our fleets.
          1. -1
            11 December 2023 10: 50
            Alas, our succession does not correspond in any way to the size of our fleets.
            ....and such an opinion is very in vain...icebreakers go into the water almost every year, at the moment no country of our Mother Earth has such an icebreaker fleet and will not have in the foreseeable future...this is the reality..and along the way, this is precisely what the initiative to withdraw from the murky convention is connected with... as the main goblin in the Gringoltz bank said, “does Harry Potter have his key?”... the icebreaker fleet in the Arctic is precisely that key
            1. +1
              11 December 2023 11: 06
              Icebreakers are good, but if the enemies blew up the North. flows, and they didn’t get anything for it, then they can mine the Northern Sea Route with submarines. Or do some other nasty thing. It is necessary to attach a frigate to each icebreaker for protection.
          2. +3
            11 December 2023 15: 33
            And the determination of the Russian Federation itself...
        2. +1
          11 December 2023 16: 44
          Crimean partisan 1974 (Vladimir), the borders under the USSR in the NSR zone were inviolable because no one was going to violate them with simple shipping. It's something like Elusive Joe, who no one catches and therefore he is elusive.
          And now, when in the summer it is possible to navigate the NSR without an icebreaker, how will we justify the non-fulfillment of the main postulate of the NSR on freedom of navigation? And we signed it and pledged to fulfill it. Are you familiar with all MSE laws and regulations? Try to find there at least one point in our favor regarding the NSR, on which we can unconditionally rely?
          The only thing that helps us is that the implementation of the IMP rules is voluntary for any state, and the United States has not ratified it at all. So let them go through the forest...
        3. 0
          12 December 2023 13: 29
          .or remind you what the inviolable borders of the USSR were in the Arctic?.

          Crimean partisan 1974, I appreciate your patriotism and passion, but I can ask, do you consider the Barents Sea with its borders to be the borders of the USSR in the North. Arctic Ocean?
          But there has always been freedom of navigation for foreign countries and no one interfered with this under the USSR. Just as Norway did not interfere with navigation in its part of this sea. And here follows an objective question: - How does the Barents Sea differ from all others off our coast in the North?
      2. +10
        11 December 2023 08: 38
        It is not entirely clear what is currently preventing Western countries from entering the 12-mile zone of our waters. Western countries calmly violate conventions if they need to. A striking example is the freezing of our assets or confiscation of diplomatic property. representative offices For those who consider it necessary to comply with the law, we will adopt the Russian law on, for example, a 24-mile zone. The convention will not hold the rest.
        1. +1
          11 December 2023 08: 42
          Quote from Gpn27
          It is not entirely clear what is currently preventing Western countries from entering the 12-mile zone of our waters.
          On the NSR, the fairway often runs much further than 12 miles
          1. +9
            11 December 2023 09: 14
            I am a purely land mammal and do not quite understand the essence of the problem. One of the waterfowl would explain.

            The Northern Sea route is very long. Passage strictly along the fairway.
            Fine. a foreign ship enters this route outside the 12 mile zone, without violating international law, passes, squirming, 500 miles and approaches the Russian islands or coast, where the fairway is already within the 12 mile zone of the Russian Federation. What is the Russian Federation doing? That's right, he doesn't give permission to pass. Turn around and пи
            swim back 500 miles.
            1. +4
              11 December 2023 15: 59
              Nope, not like that! Try to study the ISR and, in particular, the provisions on freedom of navigation in the straits and especially during transit passage without the purpose of entering Russian ports. We signed up for the IMP and pledged to adhere to it. Yes, there are two key straits on the NSR Vilkitsky and Sannikov, which our legislation defines as internal, passage through which is subject to the permission of the state (Russia). But this status can only be “awarded” to straits in internal waters. And this is the main contradiction between us and the MMP, which even China does not recognize. Freedom of navigation is the most important postulate of the ISR and all waste from it must have clear grounds that everyone else must recognize. And if not, then only the strength and will of the state... So we'll see.
          2. +1
            11 December 2023 14: 22
            Quote: Victor_B
            On the NSR, the fairway often runs much further than 12 miles

            There is nothing to do there without our icebreakers.
            1. 0
              12 December 2023 19: 09
              Firstly, no one needs this, and secondly, there are icebreakers in other countries. Thirdly, it is possible to build many icebreakers very quickly, not so much complicated technology.
        2. -2
          11 December 2023 08: 42
          It is not entirely clear what is currently preventing Western countries from entering the 12-mile zone of our waters.

          It is the Convention that prohibits. Any local “regulations” and “restrictions” regarding the extraterritoriality regime may be ignored due to non-compliance with international Conventions. The regime of extraterritoriality must not only be justified by something, but also supported. For example, Russia will declare an extraterritoriality regime of 50 mile or 200 mile zone in the Barents Sea, Laptev Sea and Arctic Ocean based on what? Just because you wanted to? What will it do if other countries ignore this and follow international law?
          1. +10
            11 December 2023 08: 46
            Are you sure that Western countries will comply with the international convention regarding the Russian Federation? Or as with the freezing of assets - until a certain period: “This is impossible,” and then: “This is legal in relation to the aggressor state.”
          2. -3
            11 December 2023 09: 22
            What will it do if other countries ignore this and follow international law?
            ..will be interned..at least drowned..and finally, stop confusing international law and conventions..these concepts are in different weight categories...it’s something like YOYEON versus the EU, BRICS, etc.
            1. +6
              11 December 2023 10: 26
              Let's think about the question - do foreign civilian ships need to sail along the NSR today? how many of them go there per year without the consent of the Russian Federation? 1,2 or zero? and during internment, etc., what if all participating countries prohibit us from entering their waters? In fact, we actually visit them in this zone, using the Convention, hundreds of times more often all over the world... we will lose this right all over the world - by withdrawing from the Convention.. therefore, is this really a sensible idea?
      3. +2
        11 December 2023 09: 50
        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
        And what consequences will all this lead to: both in the short and long term? "

        Everything will be the same as it was before the adoption of the 1982 convention.
      4. -2
        11 December 2023 12: 40
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        The calm response of the commander of the English destroyer then, to a warning from the Russian side that “you are in the territorial waters of the Russian Federation!”: “Hmm, I don’t think so.”

        MI6 works well. They knew what forces the Russian Armed Forces had on the ground in the Northern Military District, that there were no ships at sea with comparable speed to an English destroyer. There was simply no one to chase him then. And lame from birth, patrol officer 22160 with its 24 knots on smooth water is definitely not an interceptor.
        Surprise factor?
        Yes .
        Were our military ready to attack/drown the intruder then?
        No, this is not a solution of their level. But he was not in Russian terrorist waters for long.
        So the example is so-so, although very unpleasant.
        And the pots had not yet broken all the pots with the West; revenues from trade with it were breaking records.
        But times are changing.
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Denunciation of the Convention will lead to the fact that foreign ships will be able to completely ignore Russian territorial waters.

        This convention is about the Arctic and the territorial division of its waters. Denunciation is a return to previous rules and cut sectors. We have 60%, the USA - 7%. And not a liter more. Merchant vessels there (in our sector of the Arctic) do not sail without our escort, fishing vessels from the Norwegians drop by, now they will legally persecute them, or confiscate the vessels and fine them. But everything else is already military ships (we omit scientific ones, they are the same as with fishing ones) and with them that’s exactly the most interesting thing.
        A number of NATO countries have made quite official statements that they are in a state of war (albeit indirectly) with Russia and their goal is our defeat on the battlefield and the death of as many of our soldiers as possible. ... That is, they have already secured the status of ENEMY ships. And in its own territorial waters, Russia is free to drown them, burn them or pardon them - arrest, convoy, confiscation. But I’m talking about surface ships... But it’s mostly submarine ships snooping around there. Moreover, with nuclear power plants and serious weapons. . . The ENEMY in the depths of our territorial waters... must be destroyed. And Russia will have every right to do this IMMEDIATELY after their discovery.. And not a single enemy ship will be able to approach there to participate in the rescue or clarify the circumstances. I got caught and stayed at the bottom.
        And the same thing will happen with the reconnaissance, anti-submarine, and bomber aircraft of the ENEMY. And they assigned their status - “ENEMY” to THEMSELVES.
        And opportunities... they appear. Next year, the nuclear-powered cruiser "Nakhimov" and the aircraft carrier "Kuznetsov", as well as another modernized BOD Project 1155 in an enhanced version of the modernization, will be released from modernization. So the Northern Fleet will be represented by two missile cruisers, an aircraft carrier, three new frigates of Project 22350, three BODs (two modernized) and a very well-capitalized Sarych-class destroyer. These are 1st rank ships. . With submarine forces there, everything is also good and getting better. And tough decisions come with awareness of the Force.
        So there will be no “lawsuits”. There will be tough decisions, and the Court will only be Russian, and most likely the Court of the Military Tribunal.
        1. 0
          11 December 2023 17: 01
          bayard, as always, you present it beautifully. Just let's define the concept of territorial waters. You decided that with the denunciation of the permafrost in the Arctic, the entire Northern waters. Arctic Ocean to the Pole from land borders, will be considered Russian territorial waters?
          I am FOR it, and this is how the state border in the USSR was drawn on all geographical maps.
          I’m just afraid that no one will support us or understand us. Even Nepal will be against it, not to mention Liechtenstein... they could declare war on us! fellow lol lol
          1. 0
            11 December 2023 23: 57
            No one declared war on the Soviet Union. Moreover, everyone agreed and religiously respected our borders. And we, with a clear conscience, deployed jump airfields on ice fields.
            Or do you like the fact that American and even British submarines regularly surface off our shores in the Arctic? So regularly that sometimes they get stuck in the ice, and our border guards, instead of finishing them off or arresting the crew... help them free themselves from ice captivity.
            Do you really like it?
            Why do they always go there?
            What have we deployed there in the Krasnoyarsk Territory?
            For a pre-emptive strike? Along a flat trajectory?
            Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
            Nepal will be against it, not to mention Liechtenstein...

            Yes, even Senegal and Mauritius. Do you really want to giggle about such topics?
            But war has already been declared on us. So if in the depths of our Arctic a couple of Anglo-Saxon submarines disappear without a trace, I will not mourn.
            When in the late 40s - early 50s, Comrade Stalin was fed up with American (and their satellites) reconnaissance aircraft, which were constantly hovering near our borders with regular violations, the order was given... to pursue the intruder even over neutral waters and shoot it down. After several RTR planes were shot down, the behavior of the inappropriate people began to change.
            Are you satisfied that NATO anti-submarine aircraft are hovering over the combat deployment areas of our SSBNs?
            That any “research” steamboat can quietly hang out there, “studying the fleet and fauna”?
            This is a matter of security and survival of the country.
            1. 0
              12 December 2023 07: 47
              Quote: bayard
              the order was given... to pursue the intruder even over neutral waters and shoot it down. After several RTR planes were shot down, the behavior of the inappropriate people began to change.

              Dry river, huh?
              1. 0
                13 December 2023 01: 34
                Quote: your1970
                Dry river, huh?

                Yes, and besides the Dry River it happened. But then the fighting was still going on nearby, and either they got lost, or they got even for the losses in the skies of Korea.
                And there was also the first “jet ram”, when our MiG-21 rammed a Phantom from the airfield in Kurdamir. And the Canberras flew in from the south. And U-2 with Powers. And Rust on Red Square.
            2. 0
              12 December 2023 13: 49
              No one declared war on the Soviet Union. Moreover, everyone agreed and religiously respected our borders.
              bayard, let's figure it out... No one has declared war on Russia yet either. Even more interesting. that Russia did not announce it to anyone. even Ukraine!!! Which is why all this “dancing with tambourines” with trade and gas pumping through Ukraine.
              I agree with you about “guarding our borders” only in relation to civil navigation in the NSR zone. This also includes surface ships (military) that did not reach the Kara Sea or the Laptev Sea. The same cannot be said about US nuclear submarines, which not only always sailed in the Barents Sea, but also entered the White Sea, which is considered the inland sea of ​​the USSR and now Russia.
              Don’t you know about the collisions between nuclear submarines and ours in the White Sea? And why?
              But because the United States does not recognize the White Sea as our internal one, just as it does not recognize the Peter the Great Gulf as internal waters of the USSR and the Russian Federation. I will say more, the United States did not even ratify the IMP, although they promised to adhere to its rules if this does not contradict their national interests. Cool, yeah?
              So we need to act in the same way and not give a damn about all the norms of the MMP if it contradicts our interests.
            3. 0
              12 December 2023 13: 59
              Are you satisfied that NATO anti-submarine aircraft are hovering over the combat deployment areas of our SSBNs?
              It’s always useful to compare and ask a counter question: is the United States happy with our nuclear submarines and long-range bombers hovering over the SSBN combat deployment areas?
              And here we begin to clarify the boundaries of these areas and whether the United States is really violating the ISL with its declarations on freedom of navigation and overflight over the waters of the open sea?
              I remember the United States tried it with a Korean Boeing that was shot down near Sakhalin, and even more so, military aircraft do not poke their noses into our territorial waters 12 miles away. So what are you talking about?
              You are not satisfied with the established boundaries of territorial waters of 12 miles, and the rest of the water space is considered the “High Seas and Heritage” total humanity", fly as much as you like.
              I emphasize, EVERYTHING!!! and even Nepal and Liechtenstein, which do not even have access to the seas, but have the right to create their own fleet and use the waters of the Open Sea. Like, for example, Belarus.
            4. +1
              12 December 2023 14: 34
              Or do you like the fact that American and even British submarines regularly surface off our shores in the Arctic?
              About “our shores” in a little more detail, please, with distance from the shore and reference to the permafrost. Otherwise, this is a pointless conversation.
              Do you like the division into sectors of the entire Arctic, where each sector is tied to the coast of the corresponding country? Well, in this case, how are you going to navigate through the Barents, Norwegian and North Seas, which are assigned by these sectors to Norway, Denmark and Great Britain. Do you think they also have the right to restrict freedom of navigation over their sectors? Or is it just the fact that some seas freeze and some don’t that change the rules of the High Seas on the IMF?
              Only the strength and will of a state that can defend its national interests, contrary to the rules of the IMP, will allow Russia to not give a damn about all the disturbances China. India, Vietnam and 150 other countries that do not understand why the NSR should be purely Russian.
              No, if we are talking about icebreaker assistance, then everyone understands and is ready to pay for it. so far the only owner of icebreakers.
              They don’t understand about the restrictions if icebreaker assistance is not required in the summer and freedom of navigation is prohibited. In response to this, we are threatened with closing the exit from the Baltic for the same reasons.
              1. +1
                13 December 2023 02: 07
                Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
                In response to this, we are threatened with closing the exit from the Baltic for the same reasons.

                Uh no. stop Threats to close the Danish Straits to us began much earlier than our “intention to consider the possibility of reconsidering...”. So don't confuse effects with causes. And so we can reach an agreement that we shot down Powers in vain.
                1. 0
                  13 December 2023 07: 46
                  Threats to close the Danish Straits to us began much earlier than our “intention to consider the possibility of reconsidering...”.
                  You judge and compare by the date the proposal was received in our Duma a couple of days ago. But the dispute itself about freedom of navigation along the NSR arose a very long time ago, perhaps even under the USSR. And this debate has always involved comparisons with retaliatory measures... if we are like this... then it will be the same with us. I'm talking about this....
                  And about Powers... it’s a pity that we learned how to shoot down so late, but before Powers they flew freely for several years and we couldn’t reach them at such an altitude. And they made a big mess with Powes, at the same time shooting down their own fighter that flew out to intercept.
                  1. +1
                    14 December 2023 11: 30
                    Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
                    and before Powers they flew freely for several years and we could not reach them at such an altitude. And they made a big mess with Powes, at the same time shooting down their own fighter that flew out to intercept.

                    They never flew so far and brazenly to Powers. Yes, and I saw all the postings of violations of those years, there were Canberras and other dregs, even a C-130 flew from Turkey and a Phantom broke through to Gabala at low altitude (the first ram on jet aircraft).
                    Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
                    if we are like this... then it will be the same with us. I'm talking about this....

                    The Soviet Union closed its sector of the Arctic and did not allow anyone there. SSNs, yes - they came in and even just grazed, like ours in their combat deployment areas. We don’t need a repetition of how the Germans deployed their bases there during WWII, and we didn’t even know about them. The United States has recently started talking more and more often about the fact that they will establish their “freedom of navigation” in our Arctic. If the ice melts and it is possible to bring ordinary surface ships there, they will deploy their missile defense lines there to intercept our launching ICBMs. They have been talking about this since the 90s, and especially since the 00s. . So I’m against tolerance in the Arctic - we’ll just return everything as it was under the USSR.
                    1. 0
                      15 December 2023 08: 23
                      They never flew so far and brazenly to Powers.
                      bayard, it is unforgivable for you not to know about such facts. They flew more than once... as soon as the U2 appeared in service. And the number one target was Baikon, with launch pads for military missiles under construction. Ours recorded these flights, but could not do anything. Mig or Su did not reach U2 at an altitude of 20 km. More precisely, they could have jumped to this height for a few seconds in afterburner so that they had time to shoot back down.....
                      And only with the deployment of the S-75 complex on combat duty did this goal become achievable. How they got him and what confusion there was, tons of articles have already been written, look on the Internet.
                      And in the 70s I had the opportunity to undergo student internship at the radio center in Verkh-Dubrovo, where Powers landed by parachute. And there, for the first time, we learned from local experts all the “secret” details of that time, which were not written about in the Soviet press. It was then that I first heard how our MiG-19 with pilot Safonov was shot down (he died), which our entire press vehemently denied 15 years after the event.
                      1. 0
                        15 December 2023 08: 33
                        From the stories of the locals, I remember the moment of “capturing the spy.” Two drunken men in a UAZ saw him land in a field and drove up. One of them thought that Powers spoke Hungarian.... the man once served in Hungary. He didn’t think where a Hungarian pilot would come from. o when Powers displayed USA on the dusty glass, they quickly tied him up and took him to the premises of the local collective farm. There, the chairman of the collective farm already called the police, and they called the KGB of Sverdlovsk, from where the security officers arrived an hour later and “took the spy away.”
                        And then all week they organized local residents to search for the wreckage of the plane in the forest.
                    2. 0
                      15 December 2023 08: 56
                      The USA... will establish their “freedom of navigation” in our Arctic...
                      They will deploy their missile defense lines there to intercept our launching ICBMs

                      bayard, I also don’t want anything like that and therefore I emphasize once again that only the strength and will of the state can prevent this scenario.
                      I'm just pointing out the inconsistencies with signed by us MMP with its provisions on freedom of navigation and the High Seas. And I gave an example with sectors of the Arctic, which conditionally belong to other countries, where no one establishes similar bans as we do. So what's the difference?
                      You can and even want to compare the situation with the times of the USSR... but then simply no one needed to travel along the NSR; it was not needed for civil shipping due to the enormous risk.
                      Explain about the placement of missile defense lines, where will they be located? There are no islands there, it’s more expensive for yourself on the ice of the polar cap, ... only warships remain in neutral waters. But no one is preventing us from keeping our ships in neutral waters near the United States in the same way, as long as they do not enter territorial waters 12 miles from the coast. So what's the difference?
      5. -3
        11 December 2023 13: 31
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Before swinging your fists, you should always think: “is it really possible to hit the enemy so that he feels it?

        There is no need to wave your fists or bother too much - there is always the opportunity to cut off an unwanted ship from the caravan carried out by our nuclear icebreaker along the NSR.
        And let him screw around until he asks for paid help.
        1. 0
          13 December 2023 08: 17
          DymOk_v_dYmke (Alexander), why can’t you “get rid of” our icebreakers on the NSR?
          This is not about “hares” walking in a caravan behind an icebreaker, and even for free. The topic of navigation along the NSR began to heat up relatively recently and in connection with the melting of ice in the Arctic, when the time window for the summer-autumn period of ice-free navigation increased.
          And if there are ships with enhanced ice protection (ice class), which have been made for a long time and not only here, then the period of free navigation (without an icebreaker) reaches up to six months.
          And on what basis can we prohibit freedom of navigation and the principle of the “High Seas” under the ISL? And we called these reasons...
          Environmental safety and technological support of the NSR - forecast of ice conditions, designation of a safe fairway with constantly changing shoals and ice jams in the straits. Maintenance of repair and rescue services at several points on the coast, etc.
          Those. We focus on the particular complexity of shipping, where it is impossible to do without us. And they send us away with such care. And all that remains is the strength and will of the state.
      6. -2
        11 December 2023 13: 31
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Before swinging your fists, you should always think: “is it really possible to hit the enemy so that he feels it?

        There is no need to wave your fists or bother too much - there is always the opportunity to cut off an unwanted ship from the caravan carried out by our nuclear icebreaker along the NSR.
        And let him screw around until he asks for paid help.
      7. +1
        11 December 2023 15: 31
        ..This is what we see when conducting SVO.
  4. +13
    11 December 2023 07: 19
    Withdrawal from the convention will have to be defended by force...many of our enemies will not like this.
    1. +11
      11 December 2023 07: 32
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Withdrawal from the convention will have to be defended by force...many of our enemies will not like this.

      By force, so by force!
      So they don’t know where to shit anymore!
      It can't get any worse!
      1. +7
        11 December 2023 08: 49
        We are still weak in sea power... and you can’t accumulate it in a year (((There was no need to waste it! This applies to today’s people first of all, for 30 years our heads were filled with stuffing our personal purses, and now the rooster has pecked...
      2. -3
        11 December 2023 10: 47
        It can't get any worse!

        It will be, it will be! We also need to take a piece of territory from Norway. And bill for poaching in the 20-30s...
  5. +10
    11 December 2023 07: 35
    Stalin once said - [quote]I always thought that democracy is the power of the people, but Roosevelt clearly explained to me that democracy is the power of the American people![/ Quote]
    Also, international law is the law of the United States and in the interests of the United States, which is defended by US force
  6. +4
    11 December 2023 07: 36
    While signing smoothly on paper then, Yeltsin did not think about ravines. Now Russia will have to overcome the ravines by force. And many more documents have Russian signatures on them, signed smoothly on paper, without thinking about the ravines...
    1. -2
      11 December 2023 14: 06
      Quote: north 2
      While signing smoothly on paper then, Yeltsin did not think about ravines. Now Russia will have to overcome the ravines by force.

      In Yeltsin’s time, ravines, as I remember, were paved with Xerox boxes.
      Nobody answered.
  7. +7
    11 December 2023 07: 41
    Quote: Victor_B
    Kozyrev Used Minister Indel feels great in the states these days!

    And his deputy Fedorov, on Norkin’s show, is rooting for Ukraine, citing his own arguments, which he makes from supposedly direct communication with “big people,” both in Kyiv and in the West.
    Regarding the Northern Sea Route. The United States has been drooling over it for a long time and even made a proposal to privatize it (it is clear in whose favor), but “the elbow is close, but not the bite.” The idea of ​​leaving Convection is very reasonable. In this case, there will be a lot of howling and lamentation from the West, but its own national security and economic interests are more valuable.
    1. +1
      11 December 2023 07: 49
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Quote: Victor_B
      Kozyrev Used Minister Indel feels great in the states these days!

      And his deputy Fedorov, on Norkin’s show, is rooting for Ukraine, citing his own arguments, which he makes from supposedly direct communication with “big people,” both in Kyiv and in the West.
      Regarding the Northern Sea Route. The United States has been drooling over it for a long time and even made a proposal to privatize it (it is clear in whose favor), but “the elbow is close, but not the bite.” The idea of ​​leaving Convection is very reasonable. In this case, there will be a lot of howling and lamentation from the West, but its own national security and economic interests are more valuable.

      Let them try to wrest the Eastern Passage from Canada!
      Canada, in this case, will also immediately jump out of the convention.
      1. 0
        12 December 2023 14: 05
        Let them try to wrest the Eastern Passage from Canada!
        You don’t even need to try... there are no restrictions on the part of Canada regarding passage through the UWB between two oceans, except for the usual environmental requirements and appropriate insurance of the vessel.
        Another thing is that no one needs this UWB yet for economic reasons and the lack of icebreaker assistance.
  8. +7
    11 December 2023 07: 45
    They came up with this convention, we foolishly ratified it, and got into trouble.

    What a streamlined and ambiguous formulation. "Who are "we? A traitorous drunk with his pack? Or are all the Russian people?
    1. +3
      11 December 2023 12: 19
      How simple everything is with you, the drunkard is to blame for everything, the Duma has nothing to do with it, they just prepared the papers and voted, and you, we are not to blame, you, we just elected these deputies, who, I remind you once again, are not guilty of what they are voted. Good position, "Rafik is not guilty."
      1. 0
        11 December 2023 20: 22
        That’s what I wrote: a drunk with his pack. The Duma, at least most of it, also belonged to this pack.
      2. 0
        12 December 2023 14: 16
        Sergey Kulikov_3(Gray), bravo colleague! This is from the same series about Shevardnadze, who traded his homeland in the Bering Sea, giving the United States huge water areas rich in fish.
        And we somehow don’t take into account the fact that this treaty was imposed on the Americans by the USSR since 1975, persuading the United States. As well as the fact that Shevardnadze was then still a member of the Politburo of the CPSU, and could not, without the consent of the party, single-handedly trade in the Motherland. And our KGB, represented by the border guards, insisted on straightening the border, for whom it would be easier to identify violators, poachers, etc. Just to know that in a few years GPS systems will appear, and then Glonass, which will make it possible to determine the location of the violator with an accuracy of up to a meter. But... just to know.
  9. +3
    11 December 2023 07: 46
    This is just a version. I assume no one will leave the international law of the sea. There are other sea “narrows” where our vessels and ships sail. They will look for other ways to oust NATO and their satellites from our coastal waters. The risk is only during summer navigation.
    They are in critical condition with icebreakers.
    1. 0
      11 December 2023 07: 53
      Quote: Sergey39
      They are in critical condition with icebreakers.

      So they wait until warming comes and the icebreaker, especially, will not be needed.
      1. +1
        11 December 2023 08: 41
        So they wait for the warming to come and the icebreaker,
        ...true...then a lot of things will go under water and there will be no one to argue with
      2. +2
        11 December 2023 09: 12
        So they wait until warming comes and the icebreaker, especially, will not be needed.

        This is from the series Either the padishah will die, or the donkey will die.
        1. +2
          11 December 2023 09: 45
          Weather, climate, warming... and it’s cold here, the reservoirs are freezing, and the fishermen have already sharpened their hooks and are getting ready!
          It’s been a long time since something like this has happened before the new year, when winter would come in real life, not just a calendar one!
  10. +2
    11 December 2023 07: 52
    All kinds of conventions, treaties, doctrines were supported by only one thing... there was no one so strong who they interfered with and he could not give a damn about them!
    Their own interests are supported only by force, and anything international is supported by general impotence!
  11. +1
    11 December 2023 07: 54
    Victor_B (Viktor Petrovich) and rotmistr60 (Gennady) - why kick someone who is now tangentially going through this issue?
    The hand needs to be pulled back and the head straightened (if possible) by those who are now alienating locally in favor of a foreign agent or only for their own personal use. Again, with the goal of successfully reselling or renting out, without any assessment of the risks for the State of the Russian Federation.
  12. +6
    11 December 2023 08: 13
    Everything is blamed on EBN, but he left on December 31, 1999. Almost a quarter of a century. What has Garant been doing all these years? If after 26 years we are GOING to denounce this treaty? wassat
    1. +3
      11 December 2023 08: 18
      But don’t you want what they told us: there is no convention, so get out of the Baltic, the World Cup in the Bosporus area, and other bodies of water?
      1. 0
        11 December 2023 08: 29
        Is it okay that an American submarine missile carrier can legally hang out near the shore? In peacetime, treaties are respected; in wartime, no one will care about them.
    2. -2
      11 December 2023 08: 19
      He helped withdraw money from the Russian Federation and formed a local business elite (as opposed to the external one, but raised on external rules, foundations, technologies, principles, views), a financial elite, including working cogs (clerks) for them according to the same patterns.
    3. -6
      11 December 2023 08: 47
      What has Garant been doing all these years?
      ...I pumped up my muscles and trained thoroughly..the result is visible today..do you know back then to enter the ring after a default was tantamount to suicide...well, for example, would you now enter the ring against a famous massacre?...so the same. ..but if you purposefully prepare, then why not...but for this time you need
      1. +3
        11 December 2023 09: 35
        Crimean partisan 1974 (Vladimir)
        ...I pumped up my muscles and trained thoroughly...the result is visible today..

        This is especially evident in today's result - training on foreign capital, technology and selling everything.
        Results for 2023:
        The Federal Customs Service (FCS) records a multiple increase in the export of gold bullion. Gray schemes are often used to export bullion
        “A passenger declaration for gold is not issued if individuals export it.

        Russian Minister of Economic Development Maxim Reshetnikov believes that the rise in inflation in recent months is not critical. He noted that core inflation in annual terms remains at 5,5%, if you remove “all sorts of fruits, gasoline, etc.”

        In the third quarter, poverty continued to decline—14,8 million people, or 10,2% of the country’s population, remained below the poverty line.
        In the first quarter, there were 19,6 million, or 13,5% of the population, Russians with incomes below the poverty line; in the second quarter, there were 15,7 million, or 10,8%.
        Thus, if in the third quarter of 2022 the share of the poorest 10% of the population (9,9 thousand rubles per month) accounted for 2% of the total cash income, then by the end of the third quarter of 2023 the figure did not change.


        By the way, about them - top managers in the Russian Federation!

        The priorities of subjective happiness for the entire sample are health, then material wealth, in third place is the state of the business he manages, love in fifth place, love for the Motherland in sixth, and recognition from society in ninth.
        In the area of ​​professional competencies, the unoriginality and banality of top management’s priorities can simply make one’s teeth ache: the three secrets of a company’s success, in his understanding, are competent management, a professional team and high-quality finances.

        And what hinders them most of all, you won’t believe it, is the bureaucracy - i.e. not them themselves with their competencies!!!

        More details about the data can be found in the results of the sociological project of the Trust Technologies company (TeDo) and the NAFI Analytical Center, presented at the end of November 2023.
        1. -4
          11 December 2023 10: 08
          sociological project of the company “Technologies of Trust” (“TeDo”)
          ..I didn’t ask for all this nonsense to be stated to me, if you’re into it, then it’s your personal, ..I live in another world...real and not woven by some masturbators from opinion polls, and I can tell you a slightly different vision...the only true one a social survey is carried out during the population census, when census workers go around each citizen......everything else is nonsense
    4. -3
      11 December 2023 09: 17
      If after 26 years we are GOING to denounce this treaty? wassat

      As Bismarck said,Politics is the art of the possible. Well, we didn’t have a modern Arctic group for a long time. Today it exists and is deployed.
    5. -4
      11 December 2023 09: 49
      Jager (Andrey)
      Look, the “clerks” (TsIPsOshniks) ran in without brains.
      Why are they without brains, so stupid because. Learned and trained that someone is interested in their +/- as an assessment.
      Their brains are tuned to the public, and they themselves are the ones who are interested in likes and approvals.
      They sit and are addicted - they stick minuses into everyone. They really don’t have enough brains to understand that these +/- were invented for them. Because neither their brains nor their hands are designed for anything else. So they hired their mediocrities - for $300 a month
  13. -1
    11 December 2023 08: 17
    What is the article about? What if the Baltic Sea is closed to us? We signed the Convention like a fool and are leaving? Do we only have one ocean? Yes, let them pass without an icebreaker and try. The main thing is not to save.
    1. +3
      11 December 2023 08: 31
      Arctic Agreement. And not on all other issues.
  14. +1
    11 December 2023 08: 24
    Having abandoned Worldly Law, what can we oppose? We have some other levers or a fleet.
    You need to think a hundred times here
  15. 0
    11 December 2023 08: 31
    Russia will consider the option of withdrawing from the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea

    We haven’t come out of the woodwork yet, but what are we trying to demonstrate here!?
  16. -2
    11 December 2023 08: 36
    So do it: who is stopping it?
  17. +3
    11 December 2023 08: 39
    They came up with... we foolishly ratified it and got into trouble.

    It seems that we have been living in this regime for the last almost forty years and our officials are running the state in the same way. fool Apparently:
    got ourselves into trouble

    This will become a historical motto for the current period in the history of our state. request
    1. +1
      11 December 2023 15: 51
      This is what He Himself constantly repeats. We have seen and understood this for a long time.
    2. 0
      12 December 2023 07: 02
      Quote: Horon
      It seems that we have been living in this mode for the last almost forty years.

      It's because there are smart ones, well, let’s say in the Russian Academy of Sciences.
      А we choose beautiful(actors, athletes, singers, astronauts).
      (I’m not saying that they are necessarily stupid, I’m just pointing out a selection criterion that clearly turned in the wrong direction)
  18. -2
    11 December 2023 08: 44
    and the sooner they do this, the better it will be, otherwise they’ll give us so many spies in the north - don’t worry, mom
  19. -1
    11 December 2023 08: 46
    Quote: Metallurg_2
    Yes, with a popularly elected drunk, we got ourselves into a lot of trouble.

    And not with him alone... Suffice it to recall the “line of betrayal” of Shevardnadze-Baker...
    A wonderful, and most importantly, completely free gift... After the arrival of Judas, gifts from our country began to pour in as if from a cornucopia.
  20. -1
    11 December 2023 08: 51
    ...it’s high time to reconsider all our international and “Gay European memberships” and agreements - especially in vitally important moments....enough of following the herd of sheep - it’s time to impose and defend our views and interests...the time has come, and the forces seem to be appeared...
    1. 0
      12 December 2023 19: 19
      Did traffic cops fine you? Eliminate traffic rules for yourself, at least driving under a brick. And that the solutions are identical in beauty!
  21. +1
    11 December 2023 09: 09
    Since 1997, the Duma members have been thinking! O thinkers! And it’s not a fact that they will do something...
  22. +3
    11 December 2023 10: 18
    Abandoning the 1982 Law of the Sea Convention means returning to the 1958 Convention on the High Seas
    and the Convention on the Territorial Sea and Contiguous Zone, to which the USSR was a party?
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Конвенция_об_открытом_море
    https://www.un.org/ru/documents/decl_conv/conventions/pdf/tsea.pdf
    And what will this change? Or should we withdraw from all conventions altogether?
  23. 0
    11 December 2023 11: 29
    Since 2012, Russia has secured the status of the Northern Sea Route as an inland transport artery, but the Americans do not agree with this. The only way out is to denounce the convention with its 12-mile zone in order to expel foreign ships from our sector of the Arctic, who feel “at home” there.
    The problem is that the United States and China (and not only them) most likely will not agree with this formulation of the issue...
    1. -1
      12 December 2023 06: 58
      This is THEIR problem.
      If you can tell me something, and then shout louder than anyone else, “WHO did this?”
  24. 0
    11 December 2023 12: 17
    Turn back the 100 mile zone!
  25. 0
    11 December 2023 12: 17
    Turn back the 100 mile zone!
  26. -3
    11 December 2023 12: 44
    Compliance with the Convention on the Law of the Sea does not correspond to Russia’s interests in the current international environment.
  27. -1
    11 December 2023 12: 58
    I wonder if the amers went along the Northern Sea Route - what would they risk? Your own Arlie Burke or Ticonderoga escort...trimmed with fur...and what are they going to send the main icebreaker? Swim the can?
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  29. -1
    11 December 2023 18: 36
    Let's go out! We denounce!
  30. 0
    12 December 2023 06: 56
    “Ah! It’s not difficult to deceive me! I’m happy to be deceived myself.”
    Well, seriously, there aren’t enough fingers on our hands to list what we “stupidly got ourselves into.”
    All sorts of international ratifications need to be made very difficult (otherwise they will get into trouble again, and the way out of them should be simplified as much as possible).
  31. 0
    12 December 2023 17: 42
    Funny site and its moderators!!! First they ban you for all sorts of trifles, and then they don’t let you vote!!! They require you to write comments first!!!! You should go! Came here just for this! This resource will soon die...................................
  32. 0
    12 December 2023 18: 59
    With such a government as in the Russian Federation, there is no need for enemies. The current ones are better, of course. But I will still say that the Jews helped the Europeans, the Chinese, and the Americans. But they only cut and flog the Russians.
  33. 0
    12 December 2023 21: 57
    Until the Americans came up with this 1982 convention, the entire Arctic was divided into sectors. There are only five Arctic states: Russia, Denmark, Norway, Canada, USA.

    By the way, this is complete madness. Why is the Arctic so special? Imagine that such an approach would be, for example, to the Mediterranean Sea: it would be divided into sectors by adjacent countries, and others - America, Russia, Britain, etc. - get out. Or the Indian Ocean will belong to India.
  34. 0
    13 December 2023 02: 13
    China a couple of years ago named itself the owner of a certain maritime zone. Amers are placed on this with the device. Both sides growl and show their teeth to each other...
  35. 0
    14 December 2023 21: 42
    Was it a foolish thing to ratify? There is always a lobby and those who have “ratified” it’s time to go to the studio.