Cossack squads in the Kuban - strengthening of the rule of law or another step of Great Russian chauvinism (the opinions of Caucasian bloggers)

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Dear readers of "Military Review"! One of the topics discussed last week was the statement by the Governor of Krasnodar Region Alexander Tkachev about the possibility of arming Cossack people's teams, which, together with the police, ensure the weapons.

Cossack squads in the Kuban - strengthening of the rule of law or another step of Great Russian chauvinism (the opinions of Caucasian bloggers)


In my opinion, as a soldier who participated in the restoration of constitutional order in the North Caucasus, it’s not so much the interest news, how much her discussion by bloggers from among the residents of the North-Caucasian republics (Lenta.Ru, who are interested can be familiarized in full), I will quote excerpts (authors spelling):

Tkachev decided to give the Cossack squad traumata
The governor of the Krasnodar Territory, Alexander Tkachev, decided to issue a traumatic weapon to the Cossack squads. “So that the Cossacks could fully protect the inhabitants of the region,” Tkachev stressed. The governor began creating squads based on Cossack structures in August last year.
http://readers.lenta.ru/news/2013/01/18/tkachev/?97


Aslan
And on the basis of what ??
Pretty often the nationalists! Can residents of the North Caucasus region issue individual passports ????? !!!!

I do not distribute, I reflect Residents of the North Caucasus region should simply behave in an appropriate manner, and that’s all ...

afivanihin2009 In principle, I support, considering how many Caucasian young people now walk with trams, which must be answered. And regarding the statement of the Chechen speaker about inciting ethnic hatred, he apparently forgot how many Russians were forced to leave the Chechen Republic, but from other republics too. If we imagine such a fantastic situation in which many Russians and other nationalities began to come to the Chechen Republic for permanent residence en masse, and I think the leaders of this republic would also not like this situation.

Eustace They are always "oppressed", they are Mona.

Chechen "not mona"
"rezinomety", can get all and sundry, Chechens and others, acquire them, for every fireman, as far as I know, but the fact that some of them are used for other purposes, is another question
"about the incitement of ethnic hatred, he apparently forgot how many Russians were forced to leave the Chechen Republic"
and what attitude does the speaker of the Chechen Republic have to do with the fact that the Russians were forced to leave the Chechen Republic, and why do you think that the Russians should have stayed in the Chechen Republic? About 300 thousand Chechens, left Chechnya, and the Russians were to stay? Russians are already the second nationality in the Chechen Republic, they even got around the Ingush brothers, and the third in Dagestan, after the Azerbaijanis, I keep mum on the rest, only there I don’t smell like nationalism

Eustace Of course it was better to leave ... without a head it is inconvenient to walk and, again, there is nothing.

Chechen Well, the time was such an anarchy, but the killings on a national basis were still not widespread, and the Russians remained in the Chechen Republic until the beginning of the second Chechen campaign.

Braza The genocide of the Russian-speaking population of the early 90's is well documented and widely known. Even the Turks have not been able to ward off this national shame for a century. What to say about the actions of the "enlightened" children of the 20 century. Outcomes and losses of the titular nation are not particularly interesting. This is internal disassembly of clans. But persecution and extermination on the basis of nationality remains a stigma for centuries, as a particular dirty trait of the people as a whole, ready at any moment to relapse.
Concerning stories the conquests of the Caucasus, here supranational strategic goals were pursued, and not man-hating. Russian in general is not characterized by hatred on national grounds, it’s enough to look at the history of wars in which the defeated nations never achieved, were not kneeled down, but instead were accepted into a large, in every sense unique community of nations that are difficult to understand by peoples prone to national isolation.

Chechen Well, by the way, the video, this is the first Chechen war, at 28 minute 50 second, Russian granny, they say something about a bombing strike and people who died, and the restorators of constitutional order did not even look at her



Braza There are statistics. When they don’t want to see her, they are given as an example. Humanly, I understand this kind of hide-and-seek for certain unfair cases. If statistics are shameful and I want to at least cover up the ugliness of my people with something, this is already good and beautiful, even if it is biased.

Chechen why not post the statistics of those killed during the bombing?

Braza There is war, and there is a genocide of all indiscriminately, from young to old, only by nationality or language. Your women, old men and children remained in the villages occupied by the army. This only proves that, for example, women felt safe in the presence of foreign soldiers and were not afraid for children. And this is not genocide at all; it is a war by its own military rules. The Russian population was treated much more inhumanly, at least it found it necessary to flee by abandoning everything acquired, i.e. people on the spot quickly realized the insignificant cost of their lives. You can mislead anyone, but hundreds of thousands of people who abandoned everything just to survive cannot be deceived.

Vaynax Oi Wei) the Turks are cruel, and you are white and fluffy ?! ) No one was driven ... Well, well) as one adyg from Maikop said, 5 million does not hate 100 thousand. Circassians who cut out ?! Who expelled ?! Do you have such an ideology, cut and drive out nations, and then declare: we gave them so much, we gave them writing, yes we taught them to speak !!! In short, it is not necessary to flood the good and noble Russians, who only thought to teach the "savages". Those who lived and grew up in Grozny at the time when you were the main mass (after the deportation, your number grew very sharply) remember that everyday chauvinism from the Russians in relation to others and even now it has not gone away.

Eustace Circassians who cut. Yes, you will know, dear sir, quite a few Circassians served along with the Cossacks and long before 1864. And they fled from their fellow tribesmen probably not from a good life (mostly from slavery). By the way, I wonder why, along with Denikin (for the United, Great and Indivisible), the Circassians fought in 1. In neskladuha what ... for one with the Russian nationalists!
Vaynax And what of what I have said is that where our ancestors served refutes ?! Well, my great-grandfather served in the Wild Division, was killed during the revolution in the battle against the Reds for the Whites, and his son fought in Finnish, and what does that mean ?! Yeah, so fled from their own that their 5 million there while their houses are only 700 thousand and are not allowed back.

Braza Indeed, it is difficult for Russians to understand people who are not very drawn to education and the sciences, who are more willing to live either in trade or in questionable industry from time to time. Chauvinism is a refraction in their perception of the mountain way of life. As well as retaliatory contempt is also not out of the blue. When Russians are despised, the moral component is put in the forefront, because undermining other aspects of human development will be more expensive.
To compare the peacefulness of nations, just look at the map of their residence. Human indecisiveness crushes not only families but also territories. And good vision will find this confirmation in the tiny allotments of the peoples of the Caucasus))). The trouble of the Caucasus that he did not understand the mission of Russia, her soul, and resisted her as desperately and brutalized as his wild ruthless neighbors in the mountains taught. And this brutality spawned a response, and the Caucasian war, selective for individual villages and peoples, such as the Ossetians, did not touch them and they took maximum benefit from it. Apparently this people had the sense to see behind the glitter of bayonets something more than the rest of the nations))).

Vaynax ))) Of course, it was enough, especially since they were not always accepted for their people in the whole Caucasus, so your classics describe them well, you can understand why))) of course, it’s profitable, you couldn’t have neighbors so many territories that you could never have would not even dare. Well, about assimilation, you can remember the same)

Eustace This is now a useless exercise, to figure out who tugged at someone.

Vaynax Suburban area, there is nothing to argue about, everyone has long known.
Well, about education. Do you think in Chechnya school with the teaching of estest. Science and Russian language Russian opened? But no, Chechen Sheikh Michi Ali (Ali Mitayev, in your opinion).

Eustace Well, the Prigorodny district is terrible --- not forget, not forgive. ;-)

Vaynax You're funny, but the Ingush are not laughing.

Braza You think the Vainakh peoples and their culture would have suffered if, say, Lermontov or Tolstoy would have considered them to be their own classics and put them in first place in comparison with the local creators. Small nations often put themselves on a pedestal and inflate the significance of creators on a national basis, while world culture such as Greek or Italian is rich in much more talented people and internationally recognized geniuses. I am about the natural sciences (to speak of technical means to deliberately beat the highlanders below the belt). A penny worth the culture that constantly fears to lose its roots and be absorbed, and in order not to wither the ears from the non-existence of history into the light of God of any stumbling "troubadour" (I'm not talking about Ali Mitayev). Such guardianship of national names speaks only of the unviability of the culture without violent and artificial feeding.

Vaynax ))) Well, I am a techie, I hope to become a candidate soon, and we have quite a few doctors and professors (they didn’t buy, they left the USSR).
I do not know about feeding, but this culture is very worthy to resist the hegemony of your culture.
Our culture is what separates us from you. Its specifically on the state. level or elders is not saved, it is instilled in society. Yes, and no one is afraid to mix with you, it is simply not possible.

Aslan And why the squads only from the Cossacks, let them be national squads in the same Krasnodar Territory of the representatives of the North Caucasian nationalities!

Druzhinnik You don’t know how to put on footcloths.

가 갖추어야 할 풍모 를 완벽 하게 지닌 친애 하는 지도자 you and so one solid squads with injuries)

Chechen in Stavropol, 92% of the population are representatives of the titular nation, all other non-Russians are represented by Ukrainians, Armenians, Greeks and Chechens, what arbitrariness is it about, or regular tales?

Braza From your so much noise and wild antics as one percent over the edge. Life according to the laws of the mountains is too striking. If you are hostages and victims of your outdated adats with their wildest notions of honor, then cut yourself at home. Why show your rudeness and Ponte to all nations, and crawl with your charter in a strange monastery. Does the bloody historical examples of the consequences of pride and arrogance not teach anything?

Chechen as much noise as not from "our" just simply, the noise of "our" attracts more attention

Braza And this too. Why tolerate the savagery of the alien if their assholes abound. It may be necessary to properly educate the mountain youth, so that it would not divide the peoples into respectable and disrespectful, steep and rednecks. Well, get through the efforts of their migrating goblins another war years through ... adtsat. How many attacked the same rake. Can it be easier to remove from the educational oral tradition everything concerning national arrogance and arrogance?

Chechen what newcomers? Russian citizens do not have to move from one point to another? What law is prohibited?

And one more thing that hooked (opinion about subsidies and higher education in Chechnya):

Chechen "Putin's subsidies" how they look, and what is the use of them? Well, except that the authorities live well? The Chechen diploma is not quoted, but the Moscow diploma has weight, it has even greater weight in the Chechen Republic.

How many disputes are caused by initiatives to revive the Cossacks, as the estates of the defenders of the Russian frontiers, and these are only the first steps, what tomorrow ...
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  1. fenix57
    +7
    19 January 2013 15: 34
    AK-47.-not a weapon, but u]] Tool.
    1. +28
      19 January 2013 15: 43
      And what's wrong with creating Cossack squads? And about the subsidies: billions have gone to Chechnya. It is obvious.
      1. Sergh
        +29
        19 January 2013 16: 10
        Quote: Deniska999
        Billions have gone to Chechnya. It is obvious.

        Yes, there is such a thing, but, like, justice triumphed ... we were there in two visits, though not all were successful, but nevertheless, we spread the whole of Chechnya in a short circle, that Grozny was in ruins, that distant villages. Yes ..., it turns out that we are driving the city into ruin, although ... he saw everything and right now we won’t; whoever started it first, everyone knows. But Chechnya itself, let alone one, would not have restored all this, but if not for us, then it would have been found, would it be different, but do we need it? So, what if the two of us got together, then we’ll restore it a couple of times, if you like it, don’t want it, but you have to!
        1. S_mirnov
          +17
          19 January 2013 16: 40
          "So what, if the two of us are fucked up, so on-a couple and restore," - hreånli restore until the perpetrators are punished?
          "like, justice has triumphed" - stop mocking!
          http://militariorg.ucoz.ru/publ/chechenskie_sledovateli_zhalujutsja_na_sabotazh_
          ministerstva_oborony / 1-1-0-1280

          http://demotivation.me/5wh7qfb7w154pic.html

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XWap4cU1RE

          "Who started it, everyone knows." - Imagine not everything, there is very little information about who exactly leaked data about our commanders, plans and timing of operations from the Kremlin, and stopped the troops. Can you enlighten?
        2. +22
          19 January 2013 19: 02
          Sergh,
          Long time ago you probably haven’t been to those parts - now Grozny is one of the most beautiful and comfortable cities in the Caucasus, as well as all the major villages in Chechnya. Roads are not a couple of Central Russia. And visit the Russian outback - Kirov, Kostroma, Yaroslavl and other, other ... Abandoned Russian villages, broken roads (directions), general poverty and devastation. What kind of war swept through Russia and who is to blame that our extremely needy regions receive twenty times less federal funds than the small but proud mountain republic you mentioned?
          1. Sergh
            +3
            20 January 2013 04: 30
            Quote: Cadets
            Now Grozny is one of the most beautiful and comfortable cities in the Caucasus,

            Yes, I agree with you, myself in Siberia, and why, we’ll let the snot go, but where are our strengths, muscles? Come with a shovel and broom to the street, clean, wash, put things in order under your nose. By the way, I strictly told bullies to my peasants on the porch, I don’t give a damn, piss and shit at the dogs, I’ll see and punish, here I am, well, I live here with a collie with my own house, it's about June-July 66. Wow.
            1. Sergh
              +2
              20 January 2013 04: 49
              Quote: S_mirnov
              plans and terms of operations, stopped troops

              Listen, have you changed your position? Or the United States advised that in the summer you were more aggressive towards Russia, well, almost climbed with mats. A strange comrade or several of you, as with Nastya, we’ll see, see.
              1. Sergh
                0
                20 January 2013 04: 56
                Quote: Sergh
                we'll see

                You-on the fly with me bozaril?
                However, and not a couple of aypishniks, let’s stop at the office ?!
                1. +4
                  20 January 2013 09: 06
                  If people have matured to at least traumatism, they need to give weapons .. But it’s not clear what is stopping the Cossacks from arming themselves now? I don’t understand the whim of the Caucasians armed with traumas ... Buy and go ...
                  1. Sergh
                    -1
                    20 January 2013 21: 14
                    Quote: S_mirnov
                    plans and terms of operations, stopped troops. Can you enlighten?

                    And you still do not throw money?
                    Quote: Cadets
                    who is to blame that our extremely needy regions receive twenty times less federal funds

                    No, bro, I’m already living in Siberia as much as a fifty dollars and sometimes go back and forth. And if in the area the head is a grunt weighing about fifty kilograms, then even a dumb approach to him with a question ... and what about the roads ;? Where is the business man, there are roads and beer with shops ... oh well, what am I? It is necessary to work, also with the mind.
                    1. +3
                      20 January 2013 23: 48
                      Sergh,
                      I was not talking about shit among the regional authorities, but about the fact that the federal center allocates 20 times as much budget money to Chechnya than much more needy regions of the Russian hinterland, but with my own money, even good men like you can’t build new asphalt roads, hospitals, schools, kindergartens and more (as in the Russian proverb - I tell you about Thomas, and you tell me about Erema).
                      1. Sergh
                        0
                        21 January 2013 06: 55
                        Quote: Cadets
                        and that the federal center allocates

                        So bad asking. Or doesn’t want to.
            2. stroporez
              +1
              20 January 2013 13: 55
              definitely plus ------ start nada with yourself ..................
      2. S_mirnov
        +13
        19 January 2013 16: 11
        "What's wrong with creating Cossack squads?" -that there is such a structure Militia (ugh, Police) with certain rights and responsibilities and paid by the citizens of the Russian Federation. But nichrome not fulfilling her duties!
        So, instead of demanding that the state deal with the police and establish its work, we are starting some kind of booth with mummed Cossacks, swords and bullets. Now, if such a "Cossack" instead of working - patrols the city, then the question arises - who pays him money to live and support his family (if the state, then why pay twice to the police and Cossacks?).
        And why not the same Ingush to create Ingush Cossack patrols, etc.?
        "And about the subsidies: billions have gone to Chechnya. It's obvious." - And what, where does the ordinary Chechens have to do with it? Billions went to our army too, so what? There the soldiers, as before, are cleaning the snow with paws. So, grants in Chechnya are most likely to be sawn from the start and there is an empty transfer of money for the needs of state officials and Kadyrov personally!
        1. +6
          19 January 2013 18: 48
          S_mirnov
          ... "there is such a structure Militia (ugh, Police) with certain rights and responsibilities and paid by the citizens of the Russian Federation" ...
          ... "to demand from the state to deal with the police and arrange their work ..."
          The moral character of the police does not inspire confidence and nobody wants to restore order with them ...
          if the Cossack will patrol and really stop, I do not mind, let him get paid cash allowance
          "... And why don't the same Ingush create Ingush Cossack patrols, etc.?" ...
          They are already with enviable regularity patrolling streets, parks, drinking establishments and generously sharing folk art, in particular choreography.
          Regarding subsidies - in my opinion last year there was a scandal over financial violations in sowing. Caucasus region.
          In general, as they say - opinions differ ...
        2. gladiatorakz
          +4
          19 January 2013 20: 00
          Quote: S_mirnov
          there is such a structure Police (pah, Police) with certain rights and obligations and paid by citizens of the Russian Federation.

          You can draw an analogy with construction brigades. Is there a construction industry with professional builders? But enormous, urgent, rushing things gathered the (Komsomol) construction team! Also here. There is a police force (workers for zp) and a Cossack detachment (for an idea, homeland, clan)
          1. survivor
            0
            20 January 2013 12: 44
            By the way, in Soviet times there was such a structure as DND. vigilantes in one word. I don’t know where it was, but in Tselinograd this structure acted quite well. and the streets patrolled with the police, and the parks too. remember these times very well. I don’t know whether it would be reasonable to create armed squads on ethnic grounds. Will this step lead to an aggravation of interethnic relations?
        3. +1
          19 January 2013 22: 04
          Quote: S_mirnov
          And why not the same Ingush to create Ingush Cossack patrols, etc.?

          But then it will be not the Ingush, but the Cossacks ... wink
          1. survivor
            -1
            20 January 2013 12: 46
            well, the Ingush could create something like that. it would only be called not Cossack .... a national patrol, for example
        4. +5
          20 January 2013 02: 16
          Quote: S_mirnov
          And why not the same Ingush to create Ingush Cossack patrols, etc.?

          Let me create for, but dying in my homeland and not in my home.
        5. Sergh
          0
          20 January 2013 05: 09
          Quote: S_mirnov
          So the subsidies are probably sawn in Chechnya initially

          Uh, bro, I remembered you, but right now you are probably different. Although ... I see As was kidoras, and remained.

          MEN IS LAMER.
          1. 0
            20 January 2013 21: 17
            Sergh,
            Serge, THIS IS A MUDDY TYPE! bully
      3. Misantrop
        +8
        19 January 2013 19: 59
        Quote: Deniska999
        And about the subsidies

        And before that, there were still fake memos, which also pumped money in that direction
      4. +5
        19 January 2013 20: 17
        If there was no danger, no one would have hinted at the squads.
        1. 0
          20 January 2013 14: 50
          The beginning is good, but in my opinion is wrong. It is not necessary to introduce squads, but to remove the precincts away, and put them in their place as in America the sheriffs, which could only be a resident of this area, village, village.
          And who would not be appointed, but chosen by the inhabitants.
      5. +3
        20 January 2013 19: 31
        As for the Cossack squads - I am FOR! Even in the Moscow region they are necessary. The police don't work at all. It would be nice if the Cossack squads in the Moscow region worked on a watch (a month or half a month here, a month or half a month at home). This is necessary to prevent the pairing of these squads with the rotten through and through police. As for the billions to Chechnya, I correctly wrote "Chechen", this money in the bulk settled in the pockets of the local elite. A kind of ransom, so that they keep their clans and prevent separatism from developing again.
    2. YARY
      +34
      19 January 2013 18: 35
      As a resident of the TFR, I’m not that of Cossack squads, I’m for the creation of Cossack regiments, on an equal footing with the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Defense! With real weapons and tasks correlated with specialized units of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
      Cossacks are more policeman than policemen and maybe policemen will not be greyhounds either!
      1. bask
        +17
        19 January 2013 20: 23
        Quote: Ardent
        these parts of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
        Cossacks are more honorable than policemen and maybe policemen will not be greyhounds either

        What is there to add ......I agree Bright Cossack regiments and squads .. Otherwise, we all pi.pi.pi ​​... h
        1. YARY
          +12
          19 January 2013 22: 58
          He knew how honored to protect Russia!
          1. YARY
            +8
            19 January 2013 23: 05
            What would our cities
            Were clean from filth
            What would the kids in the yards
            We played dark
            Ub-lud-kov, it's time to drive
            From "riches" in the mud!
            Or simply put
            To trample in shit.
            1. Sergeant Air Force
              -7
              20 January 2013 00: 57
              You, as I look, are a nationalist and a fascist. And this is a patriotic site. There is a difference between these concepts. Where the site administration is looking. There are a lot of nat attacks on this thread. The level of your development is approximately equal to the level of the cattle that you hate so much. After all, you don’t understand the main thing ... Everywhere there are kazly and A to align everyone - this shows the degree of your mind. Apparently, it is very low.
        2. +19
          19 January 2013 23: 22
          In general, it is not clear, where does the Cossack squads and ethnic hatred !? Cossacks keep order! PUBLIC ORDER !!! And if the Caucasians were indignant and consider that this is directed against them, then, therefore, they roughly imagine WHO ARE A VIOLator of this order! So all the accusations of nationalism, this is a poorly concealed concern about their own inappropriate behavior ...
          Although, maybe I don’t see something, but in Krasnodar I don’t notice any open interethnic hostility. Everyone got used to each other and got accustomed. And there are enough fools in any nation ...
          1. survivor
            -4
            20 January 2013 12: 58
            In 94, I saw the work of such a "squad" in Stavropol, and I came to learn about the possibility of transferring to the Stavropol University. on the C market came up a kind of "Cossack" with toy swords and quite real whips. began to establish "order" among visiting merchants. the language does not dare to call the method of their action by another word than racketeering .... we don't have enough corruption in the police, do we need to create another corruption structure? I do not argue that there are Cossacks and this idea may not be bad, but all this has already happened. remember why the Cossacks were used in tsarist Russia? I do not advocate for the establishment of the work of the militia or the police, no matter how you call it all, the people are the same, but the creation of such structures is akin to the creation of a princely squad in a time of internecine strife.
            1. YARY
              +2
              20 January 2013 18: 52
              WITHOUT WORDS? WITHOUT WORDS!
      2. +6
        20 January 2013 09: 02

        As a resident of the TFR, I’m not that of Cossack squads, I’m for the creation of Cossack regiments, on an equal footing with the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Defense! With real weapons and tasks correlated with specialized units of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
        Cossacks are more policeman than policemen and maybe policemen will not be greyhounds either!
        Personally, I'm completely in favor. But this is not beneficial to "our" Masonic government.
        1. +4
          20 January 2013 09: 44
          Yes, it is not profitable, because Cossack regiments can protect the people about the arbitrariness of filthy individuals and from the arbitrariness of the authorities. I traveled through the Caucasus, Stavropol and Krasnodar Territory at work. These areas are the most corrupt in Russia, after Moscow. If anyone lives there, he knows.
          1. survivor
            -8
            20 January 2013 13: 00
            I wonder who they defended before? I'm not talking about Pugachev and Razin, I'm talking about Cossack formations .... not so much the people from the tsar, as the tsar from the people!
          2. Jin
            +2
            21 January 2013 12: 05
            Quote: valokordin
            I traveled through the Caucasus, Stavropol and Krasnodar Territory at work. These areas are the most corrupt in Russia, after Moscow.


            You, dear in the Samara province were not? Something I strongly doubt that our corruption is somehow different from the regions you listed! Oh, I doubt it very much! Kapets, and more!
    3. 0
      19 January 2013 22: 39
      Well said - but not only.
      Like any truly outstanding creation of Mankind, AK has long been living its own life, becoming a political, social and cultural (I have a vague suspicion that it is religious) phenomenon.
    4. +9
      20 January 2013 08: 56
      They are all so cunning that they are already enraged. Constantly shouting that Russian nationalists offend us, but they do not seem to think about why these "nationalists" appear and why they touch mainly people from the sows. Caucasus and Muslim countries. After all, no one really touches the Chinese, because even if a Chinese has arrived in Moscow, he cannot be seen or heard. And even more so, a Chinese man does not attack old people in a crowd and with knives in the subway.
    5. PatriotizTAT
      +6
      20 January 2013 09: 45
      It seemed to the Caucasus that it became fashionable to make something up and get money, the more they sweat the more money, and this is a fact, dear Mr. Kadyrov, a hero ... the rest is superfluous hi ! Maybe a little out of the box ... but until Serdyukov is jailed, I take a vow of silence, until this "pot" is brewed up, I don't see any reason to communicate here and find out something, every day I read news and messages here ... but write ... with all due respect to you, there is no pride and respect for our bureaucrats! tired of looking at these faces snickering, Putin raised pensions ... who pays ...?! IPEEEshniki ... and who else, what would be where then take these mediocrities need somewhere to pick up, but it's all gone !!!
  2. +35
    19 January 2013 15: 37
    He does the right thing, that he arms, even with farts. Before the first Chechen one, we, Terek Cossacks, not without the participation of law enforcement agencies, were routinely seized trunks, (smooth-bored, etc.) how it all ended everyone is well aware.
    1. +13
      19 January 2013 20: 48
      Quote: Tersky
      not without the participation of law enforcement agencies trunks were seized


      There was a case, Berezovsky nits fussed, and in addition, he sponsored spirits
      1. +5
        19 January 2013 21: 22
        Quote: Vadivak
        There was a case, Berezovsky nits fussed, and in addition, he sponsored spirits

        Good health, Vadim! Well, why didn’t he bother, Pa @ knew where that the only force that could stop all the chaos in those years was the Cossacks ....
        1. +10
          19 January 2013 22: 49
          Quote: Tersky
          Good health, Vadim! Well, why didn’t he bother, I knew pa @ where that the only force that could stop all the chaos in those years was the Cossacks ..


          Good evening Victor, my ancestors Zaporizhzhya Cossacks, I read here the statements of peacekeepers and wonder where such songs about the main thing come from. Everyone knows the Caucasus respects only power, because he considers himself as such
          1. +8
            19 January 2013 23: 07
            Quote: Vadivak
            Everyone knows the Caucasus respects only power,

            This and that, if there is a rebuff, is respected, if it is bought off or takes money, it means it is afraid. That's the whole system.
        2. YARY
          +7
          19 January 2013 23: 34
          Victor
          the only force that could stop all the chaos in those years was the Cossacks ....

          This is a long-standing confrontation between the authorities and the people. "Should we give the people freedom or not? Should we allow them to have weapons or should they remain a herd for butchers?"
          After all, a people with weapons is not a silent herd, it is a force that will dictate its living conditions in its own country!
          You will not be able to spit on the people to accept thieves anti-human laws!
          Well, the fact that this people can be cut, anyone is not afraid of them-BLOOD - THAT'S NOT THEIR! And the people can’t ask them, he’s unarmed!
          Cossacks-representatives of this people, not policemen, with their own "mentality", hired not for any special qualities, but on the principle of convenience for the authorities! The criteria for hiring policemen do not provide for human generic neighborly qualities. To a large extent, these are scraps of society, with a rare (increasingly disappearing) case, people come across among them, but they do not stay in this rotten environment.
          Cossacks are our neighbors siblings fathers friends!
          I hope that it will be reborn as a SERVICE as a SENSE of life, and not a carnival of badges and stripes on holidays.
          From SW.
          1. +4
            19 January 2013 23: 45
            Quote: Ardent
            Cossacks-representatives of this people, not policemen, with their own "mentality",

            Greetings, Andrei, this is something that some people do not want to see, or they pretend that they do not understand!
            1. bask
              0
              20 January 2013 00: 10
              Quote: Tersky
              Greetings, Andrei, this is something that some people do not want to see, or they pretend that they do not understand!

              UNTIL YOU HAVE PRESENT IN YOUR SKIN, DO NOT UNDERSTAND .. [media = http: // http: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = oXHfgXjAaoM & playnext = 1 & list
              = PLdhrhlYyGc23Ye6SxdyWqOCN85KvtbBXH & feature = results_main]
          2. bask
            +4
            20 January 2013 00: 15
            Quote: Tersky
            Greetings, Andrei, this is something that some people do not want to see, or they pretend that they do not understand!







            Reply

            UNTIL YOU HAVE PRESENT THIS ALL HORROR IN YOUR SKIN, UNDERSTAND
          3. +1
            20 January 2013 09: 47
            Andrey Yary, bravo a hundred times, and if you are from the South again bravo.
  3. 0
    19 January 2013 15: 38
    Ordinary holivar on national soil. After reading to the middle it became sad ...
    1. bask
      +20
      19 January 2013 20: 29
      Quote: klimpopov
      The main holivar on national soil. After reading to the middle it became sad ...

      He won’t be sad .. If the Wahhabis win. Almost all of the youth of the Caucasus are poisoned by this teaching ... They will also insert a dagger into you ...
      1. +10
        20 January 2013 01: 44
        Quote: bask
        . Almost all of the youth of the S. Caucasus is poisoned by this ,, teaching ... They will still insert a dagger into you about ...

        Unfortunately yes. And this is against the background of general illiteracy and computerization with the help of which, on pseudo-Islamic sites, the fight against infidels for a worldwide caliphate is promoted.
        1. -8
          20 January 2013 09: 08
          These are non-pseudo Islamic sites, but the most real. Personally, I think that Wahhabis Muslims are more likely than others. Since if I am not mistaken, it is written in the Koran that people of the scripture (that is, us, Christians) need to be killed.
          1. +3
            20 January 2013 12: 36
            it is only written in the Wahhabi Koran, but in the normal it is written "eradicate unbelief", which in no way applies to believing Christians and even more so Orthodox.
            1. Yarbay
              +3
              20 January 2013 20: 11
              Quote: Varies

              it is only written in the Wahhabi Koran, but in the normal it is written "eradicate unbelief", which in no way applies to believing Christians and even more so Orthodox.
              Metropolitan Vladimir: Quran speaks of love for Christians


              http://rgbw.ru/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13116&Itemid=42
          2. Yarbay
            +3
            20 January 2013 20: 05
            Quote: Max111
            than the rest. Since if I am not mistaken, it is written in the Koran that people of the scripture (that is, us, Christians) need to be killed.

            And you, of course, find that the closest to all in love for those who have conquered those who said: “We are baptized!” This is because, among them, there are priests and monks and something they cannot be interpreted. (Quran, 5:82)
            Allah does not forbid you to be kind and fair with those who did not fight you because of religion and did not expel you from your homes. Indeed, Allah loves the just. (Quran, 60: 8)
            Verily, the faithful, as well as the Jews, Christians and Sabians, who believed in Allah and the Last Day and performed righteous deeds, have received a reward from their Lord. They will not know fear and will not be saddened. ” [Cow 2:62]


            A document dictated by the Prophet of Islam (peace be upon him), which lists the duties of Muslims to protect Christians living among them, has survived. This is a reminder of our collective responsibility for our neighbors.
            The promise to the monastery of St. Katerina:
            “This message from Muhammad, the son of Abdullah, may it be an agreement with those who accepted Christianity, far or close, we are with them.
            Truly, I, helpers and my followers protect them, because Christians are our fellow citizens, and by the will of Allah I oppose everything that can offend them.

            No coercion shall apply to them. Just as their judges will not be removed from their posts, so their monks will not be expelled from the monasteries. Nobody will destroy the house of their religion and damage it and will not take away a single thing from it to the homes of Muslims.
            If someone takes this or that thing from there, he will break God's instructions and disobey his prophet. Truly, they are my allies, who have secured my guarantee of security against everything that they hate.
            No one will force them to move from place to place or participate in battles. Muslims must fight for them. If a Christian marries a Muslim, this should happen only with her consent. It is forbidden to prevent her from attending church for prayers. Their churches should be respected. No need to stop them from rebuilding their churches and maintaining the holiness of their Testaments.
            None of the Muslims should violate this agreement until the Day of Judgment
            »
      2. 0
        21 January 2013 09: 13
        They will also insert a dagger into you ...

        You probably have some kind of shift on this. Or are you working on the pros. I do not know. I just wanted to say that this article is by no means the message of the article is not clear. There are many common gray people on the Internet ...
        And why the picture? To my post? If so, where did I talk about tolerance? Or should I immediately yell that everyone is counting? In general, you understand, I think ...
    2. +1
      20 January 2013 21: 38
      klimpopov,
      I myself did not understand the promise of the article. If you equip the infantry and the rights to give power structures and military formations! Well, the responsibility and the rights and duties are fully. And the state is obtained in the state. In the sense of a legalized organized crime group or something!? . What prevents groups from simply patrolling the streets!? Checkers are also much better against a knife! There is no need to be too afraid of them! There are normal and tolerant ones among them. laughing in a manner! wink
      Well, you understand who I am! bully
      1. 0
        21 January 2013 09: 09
        I’m talking about the promise of the article. Then some started immediately throwing pissing slippers, but no one bothered to understand what I wanted to say ....
  4. Region65
    0
    19 January 2013 15: 41
    Well, why an article? apparently another troll .. or is Mumiy Troll trying to inflate the interethnic? the usual clipping from the blog :) yes, go to any chat where the multinational audience hangs out like that there are a lot of such "virtual battles" ... half an hour, a day, a week they will fight and then reconcile and find a common enemy and fight with him .... what is this for an essay on a free theme ????? author I'm sorry, but I wasted my time reading this article
    1. Sergh
      +2
      19 January 2013 16: 21
      Quote: Region65
      Yes, go to any chat where the multinational audience hangs out

      Don’t speak !!!
      Sometimes such mats fall, the ears curl up. And what for are the Cossack squads, well, there is the Ministry of Internal Affairs, etc., well, well, legalize, give responsibility, rights and obligations, and not at the level of a la the USSR as we had (even in the 80s he took it) "people's guard" , and what's wrong with this traumatic, obviously, they will give the most suck, sparrow, I beg your pardon, do not fill up the duck.
    2. +15
      19 January 2013 20: 57
      Quote: Region65
      half an hour, a day, a week they will fight and then reconcile and find a common enemy and fight with him.


      They find it, they found Budanov, and they look for others from Chechnya to the archives of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and other law enforcement agencies of the country, in fact, they receive requests for military personnel who took part in the anti-terrorist operation in the republic in the early 2000s. At the same time, investigators are asked to provide them with not only personal data of military personnel, but also their current place of residence, their place of work and photographs.

      It’s not necessary to make fools of us.
      1. bask
        +19
        19 January 2013 21: 33
        Quote: Vadivak

        It’s not necessary to make fools of us.

        In other words, there is a betrayal of their soldiers. And not at the time of EBN. And right now ... 2013.
      2. bask
        +27
        19 January 2013 22: 08
        Quote: Vadivak

        They find yeah, they found Budanov, and they look for others from Chechnya to the archive of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

        STANDING NOT JOKING, TO THE BOTTOM. FOR ALL RUSSIAN- RUSSIAN SOLDIERS AND OFFICERS. DIED PROTECTING YOUR HOMELAND !!! but devotees of shameful power .... tolerasts ......
        1. +10
          19 January 2013 22: 14
          Quote: bask
          STANDING NOT JOKING, TO THE BOTTOM. FOR ALL RUSSIAN- RUSSIAN SOLDIERS AND OFFICERS. DIED PROTECTING YOUR HOMELAND !!! but devotees of shameful power .... tolerast .....

          I’ll join ... STANDING AND NOT JOKING ...
        2. +9
          20 January 2013 02: 34
          Quote: bask
          STANDING NOT CLICKING, BOTTOM

          GLORY TO THE HERO OF RUSSIA TO COLONEL BUDANOV ...! ! !
          1. +7
            20 January 2013 09: 52
            Glory to the HERO OF RUSSIA TO COLONEL BUDANOV, CURSE OF THE POWER OF THE KILLER OF HIM.
      3. Region65
        +3
        20 January 2013 06: 00
        this is a separate topic, the venality of both Caucasian and Russian garbage has not yet been canceled. Well, in our region, General Gamow was killed in due time, they almost burned him with his wife, threw Molotov cocktails into the apartment ... the wife miraculously survived, the general died ... then what? is the Caucasus to blame for everything? bandits, covs and mutants seem to be enough throughout the trench, and by the way garbage and military commissariats not only give out information to the "Caucasian bandits", they are ready to give the local lesson for money.
        1. Misantrop
          +4
          20 January 2013 10: 49
          Quote: Region65
          By the way, garbage and military commissars not only give out information to the "Caucasian bandits", they are ready to give their best for the local lesson.

          This is only the first time it’s difficult to sell;
          1. bask
            +3
            20 January 2013 11: 00
            Quote: Misantrop
            Only the first time it’s difficult to sell,

            But because of these corrupt creatures, innocent people-soldiers who sacrificed their lives and their health to defend the Homeland are dying. ..
            1. Region65
              +1
              21 January 2013 04: 39
              The most shitty thing is that a jester with them, with cops, with military commissars, but when our soldiers are handed over POLITICS and LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTRY - wow! this is a problem and the highest degree of PORN! remember when after the second Chechen Kadyrov was given the Hero of Russia and at the same time some military leaders were judged worldly for allegedly executing civilians, abuse of authority, failure to execute orders, and so on? this is really the finish!
        2. +4
          20 January 2013 14: 59
          Quote: Region65
          is the Caucasus to blame for everything?


          And how many thieves in law have Lavrushniks? Moscow flooded
          Caucasians, and almost all continuous crime, and unlimited
          1. Region65
            0
            21 January 2013 04: 43
            Well, about a generic commodzhobi, a separate conversation :) and one such thief even steered the whole Union at one time, a sort of tovagisch Dzhugashvili))))) aka Koba, aka Iosya Vissarionovich))))) and as for the crime who have come in large numbers - so they are in most of them haven’t been taught how to live differently, to steal, to kill, to hurt their neighbor ... is the whole point of life. Although there are many exceptions - wonderful doctors, scientists, sculptors, teachers, and so on .... in short, the lavrushnik is different than the lavrushnik ... what can I say, if they are at war with teips there))
  5. s1н7т
    +8
    19 January 2013 15: 41
    Cossack squads in the Kuban are evidence of the incompetence of the authorities both in ensuring the security of their citizens, and in nat. politics.
    1. +22
      19 January 2013 15: 47
      Quote: c1n7
      Azak squads in the Kuban - evidence of the incompetence of power

      So in your Don too? But what about the Don, throughout Russia? Or where should they be, tell the uninitiated .... maybe in Palestine? The squads where the Cossacks lived for centuries, dear .... and defended not only their interests but the borders of the state.
      1. Igor
        -10
        19 January 2013 16: 28
        Quote: Tersky
        So in your Don too?


        Also! Given the number of cops per capita, and there is also the UK, the prosecutor’s office and other law enforcement agencies!
        1. +10
          19 January 2013 16: 36
          Quote: Igorek
          Also! Given the number of cops per capita, and there is also the UK, the prosecutor’s office and other law enforcement agencies!

          Well, you’ll settle in Kazakhstan, judging by the fact that part of the Semirechensk Cossacks from Kazakhstan are moving to the Stavropol Territory; all of the structures you listed are working fine in your places.
        2. +4
          20 January 2013 01: 49
          Quote: Igorek
          law enforcement!

          Gingerbread man, don’t get in trouble when men talk about theirs.
      2. +19
        19 January 2013 17: 00
        Quote: Tersky
        The squads where the Cossacks lived for centuries, dear .... and defended not only their interests but the borders of the state.

        The role of the Cossacks in the history of Russia


        "For centuries, the Cossacks were a universal family of the armed forces. Cossacks were said to be born in the saddle. At all times they were considered excellent riders who knew no equal in the art of horse riding. Military experts rated the Cossack cavalry as the best light cavalry in the world. the glory of the Cossacks strengthened on the battlefields in the Northern and Seven Years Wars, during the Italian and Swiss campaigns of A.V. Suvorov in 1799. The Cossack regiments especially distinguished themselves in the Napoleonic era. army in Russia in the campaign of 1812, and after the overseas campaigns of the Russian army, according to General A.P. Ermolov, “the Cossacks became the surprise of Europe.” Not a single Russian-Turkish war of the 18-19 centuries did not do without Cossack sabers, they participated in the conquest Caucasus, the conquest of Central Asia, the development of Siberia and the Far East. The successes of the Cossack cavalry explained It was the skillful use of grandfather's tactical techniques, unregulated by any statutes, in battles: lava (covering the enemy in loose formation), the original system of reconnaissance and guard service, etc. These Cossack "turns" inherited from the steppe inhabitants turned out to be especially effective and unexpected in clashes with the armies of European states. “For this a Cossack will be born, so that the tsar will be useful in the service” - says an old Cossack saying. His service under the 1875 Act lasted 20 years, starting at the age of 18: 3 years in the preparatory category, 4 in active service, 8 years on privilege, and 5 in the reserve. Each came to the service with his own uniform, equipment, melee weapons and a riding horse. The Cossack community (stanitsa) was responsible for the preparation and performance of military service. "http://his95.narod.ru/oren/kaz_spr.htm
        1. MG42
          +10
          19 January 2013 17: 15
          Nemo ATP. for the video. I saw this video for another song, which is also a good option. Here's another topic. = >>>
        2. +10
          19 January 2013 17: 23
          NEMO, thanks! God bless you and your loved ones for many years!
      3. s1н7т
        +1
        19 January 2013 17: 05
        Quote: Tersky
        So in your Don too? But what about the Don, throughout Russia?

        Yes, and throughout Russia, the authorities are incompetent, that’s the way it is.
      4. +8
        19 January 2013 22: 52
        Quote: Tersky
        Where the Cossacks lived for centuries


        That's exactly Grozny was a Cossack village until the storytelling went
        1. bask
          +5
          19 January 2013 22: 57
          Quote: Vadivak
          from and Grozny was a Cossack village until the storytelling went

          I think in. Grozny. Russian and Cossacks will not appear soon .. Appear, but not at this ............ power ...
          1. gladiatorakz
            +1
            20 January 2013 11: 10
            Quote: bask
            I think in. Grozny. Russian and Cossacks will not appear soon .. Appear, but not at this ............ power ..

            The power will change. Or the people will change. And in 5-10 years we can see the president of Chechnya, for example, Ataman Semenov, Ivanov, Kravtsov.
    2. gladiatorakz
      +6
      19 January 2013 20: 06
      Quote: c1n7
      Cossack squads in the Kuban are evidence of the incompetence of the authorities both in ensuring the security of their citizens, and in nat. politics.

      Every man is obliged to protect his house, and not to entrust it to someone. (Police, police, other mediocrity)
      So the Cossack squads are evidence of the incompetence of law enforcement officers.
  6. UPStoyan
    +22
    19 January 2013 15: 54
    I myself live in the Krasnodar Territory and fully approve of the idea. Initially, everyone looked with skepticism at the Cossack squads, but they are really doing business. And passport control of Caucasians and immigrants of Central Asia is carried out, and ordinary drunkards are caught, and public order is protected.
    Since Caucasians began to actively discuss this decision, it means they are afraid!
    1. +7
      19 January 2013 23: 52
      UPStoyan,
      That's right, let them be afraid, the Caucasian mentality is the mentality of rebellious slaves, Stalin was well versed in Caucasian problems, the betrayal of the Chechens was only an excuse for their eviction, this nation, like a canister with gasoline at a smoldering fire, is a detonator for the explosive Caucasus-highlight they reserve in Yakutia, enclose a wire and let them cut each other.
  7. +8
    19 January 2013 15: 55
    Really in the Kuban came to their senses and took up their minds? Impressed by the example of neighboring Stavropol? I would like these squads not to turn out to be just another "mummers", but to really do business and represent a real force. In blogs, you can argue to the point of blue in the face - both sides will find a lot of examples and arguments, but the fact that the situation is tense and it is high time for individual representatives of the Caucasian peoples to give a tough rebuff, I personally have no doubts.
  8. +25
    19 January 2013 16: 04
    So, two ethnic (!!!) battalions armed to the teeth under innocent geographical names - "West" and "Vostok" (which the people wear a simple chase "Kadyrovtsy") - this is normal, it was led and believed gut, it just hurt , chocolatey and cool. But Cossack squads with injuries are a violation of someone's national rights there ...
    In general, well done Tkachev. Krasava. Carries out its own independent policy in the region. And he does not look back at all kinds of plenipotentiaries, such as the "right" of defenders and other political and other minorities ...

    As for the blogger discourses given in the material ... Yes, let them trynd ... From this it is not cold, not hot ...
    1. +20
      19 January 2013 16: 13
      Quote: Chicot 1
      two heavily armed ethnic (!!!) battalions

      Basil, well, they are a national minority ... fellow which, with the connivance and secret tricks of the upper classes, can also arrange dances in the squares, and shoot injuries from the security forces. And everything is simple - Cossacks are a force, and not only ghouls of any nationality are afraid of it, but those who hold power ...
      1. +8
        19 January 2013 16: 59
        Hello, Victor! Good day to you, and happy holiday! ..
        The fact that the Cossacks have become afraid, and are afraid in earnest, became clear a long time ago. From the very moment when our remarkable authorities made a lot of efforts to collapse the "Union of Cossacks" and slipped the so-called. "registry"...
        1. DERWISH
          +4
          19 January 2013 18: 51
          and come to us in Krasnodar or on a vacation by the sea closer to Sochi and you don’t have to explain
      2. Misantrop
        +11
        19 January 2013 20: 05
        Quote: Tersky
        which, with the connivance and secret tricks of the upper classes, can also arrange dances in the squares, and shoot injuries from the security forces
        This is all just almost harmless bullshit. But such a mentality feature as zindans in the courtyards is significantly more serious. Does anyone else remember WHAT these facilities are for?
      3. gladiatorakz
        +3
        19 January 2013 20: 16
        Quote: Tersky
        And everything is simple - Cossacks are a force, and not only ghouls of any nationality are afraid of it, but those who hold power ...

        It is time for the Cossacks to react more sharply to the tricks of the non-Russians. Isolated cases so far (I hope so far). What surprises me for a long time. There are many clan Cossacks left.
    2. Alexander 1958
      +5
      19 January 2013 17: 20
      Good afternoon!
      Maybe my opinion is wrong. but problems with the Chechens did not arise yesterday or today. why did Tkachev begin to deal with them now? Previously, it was not necessary? The authorities begin to carry out such events in order to strengthen their authority or divert attention from more acute problems, for example, Kushchevka .. The question is whether there existed or exists a link of power and crime, and it was not Chechens who marked themselves there, but their own .... And how many such Kuschevok. not yet made public ...
      Alexander 1958
      1. Misantrop
        +4
        19 January 2013 20: 06
        Quote: Alexander 1958
        to distract attention from more acute problems, for example Kushchevka ..

        IMHO, of course, but there appear "Kushchevki" where there are no Cossack squads wink
        1. Alexander 1958
          +3
          19 January 2013 22: 59
          Nobody says so. that the Cossack squads are bad. but the need for them arises when the government has failed to work. As far as I am familiar with the topic of Kushchevka, the attempts of the Cossacks to somehow resist the lawlessness in Kushchevka met with resistance from the police and even the police themselves were pissed off by the prosecutors for touching the Tsapkovskys, and then Tkachev suddenly needed Cossacks and not against the Tsapkovskys, but against the Chechen ..
      2. +11
        19 January 2013 21: 01
        Quote: Alexander 1958
        Problems with the Chechens did not arise yesterday or today.

        This is exactly
        item 1. D.925. L.5. Cit. Quoted from: Bugay N.F. L. Beria - I. Stalin: According to your instructions ... M :. "AIRO-XX", 1995. S. 90. Population figures are approximate. During the first mobilization in August 1941, out of 8000 people to be drafted, 719 people deserted. In October 1941, out of 4733 people, 362 dodged the draft. In March 1942, out of 14576 people deserted and evaded service, 13560 people, who went into an illegal position, went to the mountains and joined the gangs. In 1943, out of 3000 volunteers, the number of deserters was 1870. A group of Chechens led by Alautdin Khamchiev and Abdurakhman Beltoev sheltered the parachute landing of German intelligence officer Lange and ferried it across the front line. The criminals were awarded orders of knighthood and transferred to the ChI ASSR to organize an armed uprising.
    3. gladiatorakz
      +1
      19 January 2013 20: 09
      Chicot 1 I agree. Only about independence Tkachev smiled .. laughing
      1. +5
        19 January 2013 22: 53
        Quote: gladiatorakz
        Only about independence Tkachev smiled.


        Or maybe pent? He is not blind
        1. gladiatorakz
          +1
          20 January 2013 11: 23
          Quote: Vadivak
          Or maybe pent? He is not blind

          Fresh food - but angry with difficulty.
          The mistake is that we judge their actions from our bell tower. And we explain motivation through our experience.
          1. He has been sitting by the Governor for a long time. And sho current now pent? 2. Someone put him there? What for? So that he represents his interests! HIS, not Russia! (they do not always coincide) 3. Over the past 10 years, there are many examples of such freethinkers? Rokhlin, Kvachkov. One was killed, the second was planted.
      2. DERWISH
        0
        20 January 2013 11: 37
        Tkachev also has his dark spots in the history of the formation and development of his business
  9. +15
    19 January 2013 16: 06
    As a resident of the Kuban, I understand the wave of indignation raised by Caucasian bloggers. It’s just that if all the Cossacks will be with arms, it’s because they will be able to use it if that. I think that the words about 92% of the titular nation in the Stavropol are simply ridiculous. But returning to my homeland, I will say that arming the Cossack squads will increase their self-esteem and increase their credibility in the eyes of citizens. But responsibility should not be forgotten.
    1. gladiatorakz
      +2
      19 January 2013 20: 24
      Quote: GEORGE
      It’s just that if all the Cossacks will be with arms, it’s because they can use it if that

      I think the Cossacks have long been armed. laughing

      Quote: GEORGE
      arming Cossack squads will increase their self-esteem and increase their credibility in the eyes of citizens

      What kind of a Cossack is this, that "trauma" raises his self-esteem? The Cossack always knows his own worth.
      And of course you need to arm! Smooth step to the firearm.
      1. +2
        19 January 2013 20: 37
        gladiatorakz hi

        You answered your own question
  10. Charon
    +13
    19 January 2013 16: 13
    If armed Cossacks appear, the lawlessness of the Caucasians will come to an end. They will have to learn to live according to the law, and not according to medieval customs.

    By the way, is everyone up to date on the new trouble? Galician Bandera are going to rob the Kuban from Russia on the grounds that this is the original territory of Ukraine.
    It’s funny to you, and they are saying this in all seriousness. Almost the occupation administration is being prepared. Indeed, in Galicia everyone knows that by the summer Russia will fall apart. It’s just that we don’t notice anything, we are building a plan ...
    1. +5
      19 January 2013 16: 29
      Quote: Charon
      Galician Bandera are going to rob Kuban from Russia on the grounds that this is the original territory of Ukraine.


      and populated by Zaporizhzhya Cossacks. Write a letter to them or something.

      there is a joke that we call fools the Turks.

      I already wrote something about the weapons of the Cossacks. Voice acting out loud is just a call from the Weaver to settle down for those who still live by the old rules. In fact, nothing needs to be distributed. for the most part, each 3, 4 in the floodplains has something submerged (the echo of the war still votes), and every third hunter keeps a couple of trunks in a safe.
      1. +6
        19 January 2013 16: 39
        Quote: vorobey
        Write a letter to them or something.

        ! +! laughing laughing laughing So the Cossacks already wrote their sulan feel Ah, well, the Turks ... Yes
      2. +1
        19 January 2013 18: 55
        vorobey = and inhabited by Zaporizhzhya Cossacks. Write a letter to them or something. =
        Yes, we are not crowded in Khortitsa)))
    2. Sergh
      +2
      19 January 2013 16: 35
      Quote: Charon
      Indeed, in Galicia everyone knows that by the summer Russia will fall apart. It’s only we have not noticed anything

      Charon, yes, you are full. You are all close to my heart. Tomorrow you will wake up and say to yourself quietly so that no one would hear: "... even yesterday I somehow piled up some hunya ...", as if it didn't work out the other way around, here it will be closer.
      1. Charon
        +1
        19 January 2013 16: 40
        Do you think I made it up?
        1. Sergh
          +1
          19 January 2013 16: 47
          Quote: Charon
          Do you think I made it up?

          And you to Putin, to him ... He laughed heartily, came to take away ..., left, but in a beard ?. I cheat on you, a good joke, are you lope?
          1. Charon
            +2
            19 January 2013 22: 46
            16.01.13 12:55
            In the Kuban, Voronezh and Bryansk will hold shares for joining Ukraine.

            The Ukrainian party "Brotherhood", known for its shocking, often anti-Russian actions, announced the holding of marches of unity with Ukraine on January 22 in the Kuban, Voronezh and Bryansk.

            How, Serge, got it wrong? Would you like to giggle over me? You lope?
    3. +12
      19 January 2013 16: 41
      Quote: Charon
      If armed Cossacks appear, the lawlessness of the Caucasians will come to an end.

      Here I am about the same!
      1. Alexander 1958
        +2
        19 January 2013 17: 23
        Good afternoon!
        Quote: Tersky
        If armed Cossacks appear, the lawlessness of the Caucasians will come to an end.
        What if the Cossacks did not stop and the end would come to Tkachev? belay
        1. +10
          19 January 2013 17: 30
          Quote: Alexander 1958
          What if the Cossacks did not stop and the end would come to Tkachev?

          And what should begin? It is about basic rule of law support ..
          1. Alexander 1958
            +2
            19 January 2013 19: 05
            Of course, it is necessary to maintain the rule of law, and always .. and not only in terms of interethnic relations, but also in terms of preventing the emergence of enclaves of lawlessness (Kushchevka) and irresponsibility (Krymsk).
            If Tkachev did not participate in Tsapkov's profits, he created and supported the system in which Tsapki and the theft of the Krymsk administration existed. And all these attempts to protect the Slavs from the Chechens are aimed at directing the discontent (which has a basis) to the Chechens, and the protection of law and order has a "cosmetic" relation to this.
            Alexander 1958
        2. 0
          20 January 2013 02: 56
          Quote: Alexander 1958
          What if the Cossacks did not stop and the end would come to Tkachev?

          DO NOT NEED PROVOCATIONS ...! ! !
      2. gladiatorakz
        +2
        19 January 2013 20: 30
        Quote: Tersky

        Quote: Charon
        If armed Cossacks appear, the lawlessness of the Caucasians will come to an end.
        Here I am about the same!

        I think many police pranks too. laughing
      3. survivor
        -1
        20 January 2013 13: 13
        to order? Oh well. the appearance of the "black hundred" under the tsar priest, which led not to order, but to its destabilization.
        1. gladiatorakz
          +2
          20 January 2013 13: 23
          Quote: survivor
          to order? Oh well. the appearance of the "black hundred" under the tsar priest, who did not lead to order, but to destabilize it

          Cossacks at home! And not only that they have the right, they are directly obligated to restore and maintain order! If you Magomed behave with dignity in public places, then you should not worry.
          1. survivor
            -1
            20 January 2013 13: 37
            and I don’t worry. And then I wasn’t worried, although I got a checker from the "Cossack". She was also stupid. I had to teach HOW they work with a checker. then in the hospital to be treated. (he was not alone)
            1. gladiatorakz
              +2
              20 January 2013 16: 55
              Quote: survivor
              and I don’t worry. And then I wasn’t worried, although I got a checker from the "Cossack". She was also stupid. I had to teach HOW they work with a checker. then in the hospital to be treated. (he was not alone)

              I can tell you without thinking about a couple of dozen stories from my life when I had to teach Caucasians. Only it’s not about that now.
    4. predator.3
      +11
      19 January 2013 17: 00
      Quote: Charon
      If armed Cossacks appear, the lawlessness of the Caucasians will come to an end.

      This is closer to the truth!

      Chechen: what newcomers? citizens of the Russian Federation do not have to move from one point to another? what law is prohibited?
      Something I have never seen your brother in construction sites or in production, but I often meet in shopping centers and markets, and naturally in police reports.
      1. bask
        +15
        19 January 2013 19: 47
        Quote: predator.3
        my brother is neither at construction sites, nor in production, and I often meet in shopping and entertainment centers and in markets, and naturally in police reports.

        I AM FOR EQUALITY OF ALL CITIZENS OF RUSSIA BEFORE THE LAW !! Each Caucasian people has its own diaspora ... Which will protect any fellow countryman in court and in ..... The Russians have one hope for the Cossacks ...
        1. +3
          19 January 2013 20: 32
          Quote: bask
          I am for the equal rights of all citizens of Russia before the law !!

          !good+! Just do not reach everyone the meaning of the word EQUALITY!
          1. bask
            +8
            19 January 2013 20: 40
            Quote: Tersky
            But the meaning of the word “EQUILIBILITY” doesn’t reach everyone!
            They have if someone committed a crime or an offense .. Includes the work of the DIASPORA-TRADE UNION Immediately begin to otmazyvat their .. And otmazyvayut..And who should I contact a simple Russian person ??? And I Chuvash ...
            1. +10
              19 January 2013 21: 34
              Quote: bask
              . Included in the work of the DIASPORA-TRADE UNION Immediately begin to otmazyvatsya.vogo .. And otmazyvayut.

              And why? Because he sits in a cop, in court, in the prosecutor's office, cheap things that they buy for a pittance. Therefore, the attitude of the "disadvantaged" minorities towards the Russian-speaking is not giving a damn, because they judge us by the ghouls sitting in the offices ...
              1. bask
                +4
                19 January 2013 21: 42
                Quote: Tersky

                And otmazyvat why? Because he’s sitting in the cop, in court, at the prosecutor’s office, cheap things that they buy for pennies. Therefore, the attitude

                One hundred 100% you are right ... And this is not only in the prosecutor's office and the courts. ,,. TAKE THE RUBLE FROM ........., ALL LIFE THE MONKEY MUST BE .. The law of mountains ...
                1. vladsolo56
                  +1
                  19 January 2013 21: 45
                  So I'm talking about, too, first it is necessary to restore order in the government. otherwise it will turn out that they will then put up combatants for exceeding the permissible defense or abuse of authority.
                  1. +4
                    19 January 2013 22: 09
                    Quote: vladsolo56
                    So I'm talking about, too, first you need to restore order in the government

                    Good health, Vladimir! There is one problem, the raven will not peck out the crow ....
                2. +4
                  19 January 2013 22: 01
                  Quote: bask
                  The law of mountains ...

                  Here, here they are their own laws and put in place, as at the time, Alexei Petrovich Ermolov, they blew up his monument 6 in Grozny once, back in the days of the USSR, they love him, wink
                  1. bask
                    +3
                    19 January 2013 22: 14
                    Quote: Tersky

                    Here, here they are their own laws and put in place, as at the time, Alexei Petrovich Ermolov, they blew up his monument 6 in Grozny once, back in the days of the USSR, they love him,

                    I even know the place where I stood .... Then, in the place when Dudayev, people were shot, according to ,, the judgment of the Sharia court ,,,
                    1. +4
                      19 January 2013 22: 44
                      Quote: bask
                      I even know the place where I stood ...

                      wow !!!, fellow walked on the same land drinks !!!
        2. Charon
          +2
          20 January 2013 01: 29
          Politsa tooth in value is 2,25 students.
          If the police knock out all the teeth (without the teeth of wisdom, of course), 63 students can be killed in return.
          1. Yarbay
            +2
            21 January 2013 08: 32
            Quote: Charon
            equal to 2,25 students.


            Being under investigation for group robbery !!
            Arrested, and walked to trial in night clubs !!
        3. Yarbay
          +2
          21 January 2013 08: 29
          Quote: bask
          I am for the equal rights of all citizens of Russia before the law!

          Unlike many of the caution of the murdered people, the person you showed showed up in a pre-trial detention center for 2 years, while other ethnic Russians who committed similar crimes received conditional sentences and were not even arrested!
      2. Misantrop
        +9
        19 January 2013 20: 10
        Quote: predator.3
        Something I have never seen your brother in construction sites or in production

        We had one Chechen at the company. I can’t remember the greater Ukrainian nationalist in Simferopol in the early 90s laughing
  11. +4
    19 January 2013 16: 15
    In the ranks of the Kuban Cossack army, several hundred thousand people are listed, and this is serious support for the creation and support of Cossack squads in the same elections, in essence, the DND for Tkachev is quite explainable. By the way, there are natives from the Caucasus.
  12. +5
    19 January 2013 16: 16
    It’s funny to you, and they are saying this in all seriousness. Almost the occupation administration is preparing a quote.
    Charon hi
    Let them come. There will be flowers from under the ground to sniff. Sincerely.
    1. Charon
      0
      19 January 2013 16: 24
      They are answered so. But these are brave internet fighters. Not afraid of anything. So the rejection of the Kuban business is settled.
      1. +14
        19 January 2013 16: 39
        Quote: Charon
        So the rejection of the Kuban business is settled


        The rejection of the Kuban by joining the Crimea and the southern regions of Ukraine. I like it, I agree.
        1. +3
          19 January 2013 16: 51
          vorobey hi

          The rejection of the Kuban by joining the Crimea and the southern regions of Ukraine. I like it, I agree.
          Better all over Ukraine
          1. +4
            19 January 2013 17: 45
            Quote: GEORGE
            Better all over Ukraine

            And then zapadnensy we why? Do not.
            1. 0
              19 January 2013 17: 57
              From there it’s not far to Poland. hi
            2. gladiatorakz
              -3
              19 January 2013 20: 35
              For a couple of cheers, patriots have been found. Baska - Schaub think of her, and not the current to eat there.
      2. Sergh
        +5
        19 January 2013 16: 43
        Quote: Charon
        So the rejection of the Kuban business is settled

        You ... this ..., wipe the lenses, I still thump, but not to the same extent ...
        1. +6
          19 January 2013 17: 22
          Sergh,
          Quote: Sergh
          I thump the same


          Charon is joking. Serge do not tear your heart.
      3. gladiatorakz
        +1
        19 January 2013 20: 33
        Quote: Charon

        They are answered so. But these are brave internet fighters. Not afraid of anything. So the rejection of the Kuban business is settled.

        Charon, your joke (if not nonsense) was delayed. Or the goal is to pit Russians with Ukrainians. And let the Caucasians still dance?
        1. Charon
          0
          20 January 2013 01: 31
          The Krai party "Brotherhood", known for its shocking, often anti-Russian actions, announced on January 22nd marches of unity with Ukraine in the Kuban, Voronezh and Bryansk.

          Have you heard of such a thing?
          1. Charon
            +1
            20 January 2013 10: 36
            Judging by the minus, gladiatorakz (2) to the Brotherhood is breathing unevenly. So they brought to clean water.
            1. gladiatorakz
              0
              20 January 2013 11: 32
              Quote: Charon
              Judging by the minus, gladiatorakz (2) to the Brotherhood is breathing unevenly. So they brought to clean water.

              I do not even breathe to the rams who hear the gossip and drive it around the village. Why are you stirring up the water, Heron? If you want to pit the Ukrainians against the Russians, create your own theme: "Why am I so offended at the Ukrainians and let's not love them together."
              1. Charon
                -1
                20 January 2013 22: 25
                So you sneaked Gladiator. Am I already to blame? Banderlog's favorite political trick is blaming others for their own sins.
                I am not offended by Ukrainians, just as they are against me. But galitsai yes to me. Now you are offended.
                1. gladiatorakz
                  -1
                  21 January 2013 11: 56
                  Quote: Charon
                  So you sneaked Gladiator. Am I already to blame? Banderlog's favorite political trick is blaming others for their own sins.
                  I am not offended by Ukrainians, just as they are against me. But galitsai yes to me. Now you are offended.

                  Tyrsa is in your head, clown. Do you write from PND? Someone takes offense at you, you fantasize yourself something. You are an empty place. Do not exaggerate your significance.
  13. stranik72
    +10
    19 January 2013 16: 16
    Oh, in Moscow, to organize this, with the right also to majeure on the road.
  14. 5aa1
    +10
    19 January 2013 16: 19
    But what is so wrongful in creating the traditionally traditional Cossack squads? what is it that we should forget about our traditions? they dance lezginka, for example, in the Caucasus (and not only), well, let them dance for themselves, and squads to protect order, especially traditional ones, is that bad? if only for those who from Kalash during a storm of fun burns in the sky !!
  15. Zybrov
    +5
    19 January 2013 16: 21
    I think Tkachev is doing everything right in this direction, the squads will not be redundant, as for the mummers — not wearing their orders and so on. movements, Authorities also need to keep this force in check is nothing more than a provocation on its part. A smart person will understand the provocation of power and will not rattle tsatsk on review of others
  16. fenix57
    +11
    19 January 2013 16: 28
    Almost all Russian military men who have earned fame in the Caucasus and instilled fear in the enemy are alike in one thing - the ability to wage a psychological warfare, using local customs and mentality.
    1. Misantrop
      +7
      19 January 2013 20: 14
      My brother was in charge of a cool restaurant in Moscow for several years. At one time, this restaurant was chosen by Caucasians. Legally, you won’t be lucky, so he hung a hefty portrait of General Ermolov at the entrance ... As the grandmother whispered laughing
      1. +6
        19 January 2013 22: 01
        It was necessary to hang the flag of General Baklanov
  17. Krasnoyarsk
    +8
    19 January 2013 16: 33
    It was necessary to arrange a mini-genocide in the Caucasus in the 90s, you see, there would be no problems now.
  18. +17
    19 January 2013 16: 41
    The photo is not Kuban Cossacks here are the Kuban
    1. +20
      19 January 2013 16: 48
      Quote: BARKAS
      Cossacks here are Kuban

      Where there are Kuban, there are Terek
      1. Sergh
        +1
        19 January 2013 17: 10
        Quote: Tersky
        Where there are Kuban, there are Terek

        Carefully examined, never seen such Cossacks, and indeed. In Novosibirsk we have practically none of them, well, maybe I don’t know, but they see the shape in the photo is very expensive, impressive.
        1. +9
          19 January 2013 17: 15
          Quote: Sergh
          never seen such cossacks

          Well, right, Sergey, where is Terek and where is Novosibirsk fellow . The Terek Cossack army is one of the oldest first mention of the Terek Cossacks - 1380., And the name -Tersky was approved in 1584. That in form is so, it is its final appearance approved by 1908, and judging by the braid, these are the lower ranks
      2. s1н7т
        -21
        19 January 2013 17: 12
        Clownery! laughing laughing laughing And what toy medals you can’t see ?!
        1. +16
          19 January 2013 17: 28
          Quote: c1n7
          Clownery!


          clowning is not a clowning, but someone's eggs are compressed in zest.

          My grandmother, a hereditary Cossack, told her mother so. Howl all when the Cossacks reborn.

          I do not consider myself a Cossack. There is no spirit of freemen inside, at other times he lived, but the children ....
          1. +11
            19 January 2013 17: 52
            Quote: vorobey
            but someone's eggs are compressed in zest.

            ! good ! And there’s nothing to get ... laughing
        2. +11
          19 January 2013 17: 34
          Quote: c1n7
          And what toy medals you can’t see ?!

          And you come, they will hang them for you Yes We are for people like you special eat-call wink
        3. bask
          +9
          19 January 2013 19: 32
          Quote: c1n7
          And what toy medals you can’t see ?!

          you Jew, that so stubbornly do not like everything Russian. Enough to teach us how to live .. Seven spans in jo ..... Go better get a job ... tongue tongue tongue
          1. +3
            19 January 2013 20: 40
            Quote: bask
            . Better get a job ...

            bask, so he is already at work, his work is such .... tongue
        4. 0
          20 January 2013 15: 00
          are you probably more pleased to watch gay parades?
  19. His
    +8
    19 January 2013 16: 47
    I fully support. It’s time to move on from business to words. The glory of Russia stands on the glory of the Cossacks. Originally served faithfully.
    1. +14
      19 January 2013 16: 52
      Only rum like in the Kuban it’s not customary to talk about it today
    2. +9
      19 January 2013 19: 04
      I am writing from memory, I will not google ... I read a book that is not very permissible (I confess)), then I was surprised to hear on the Rossiya VGTRK in a program about the Cossacks. Trotsky's statement: "The Cossacks must be drowned in blood. Only they can revive Russia .." Perhaps I did not remember literally, but the meaning is just that ...
      1. +10
        19 January 2013 19: 37
        The Cossacks are the only part of the Russian nation that is capable of self-organization and therefore must be destroyed without exception: Trotsky.
        1. +1
          19 January 2013 23: 49
          Unfortunately, the idea that the Cossacks is not the Russian nation at all, but a completely separate people :-(
    3. +1
      20 January 2013 02: 55
      ... The glory of Russia stands on the glory of the Cossacks. Originally served faithfully
      Yeah, you would tell the tsar-father in 1917.
  20. +18
    19 January 2013 16: 49
    I do not remember a single source that would say that the king asked the opinion of blacks. I’m not talking about the Soviet period - resettlement in 24 hours or a wall. By the way, in America, neither England, nor France, nor Germany in those periods that are considered successful in their history, Black did not ask for opinions. At best, they were given reservations, and usually a ticket without returning to a better world.
    As soon as they began to ask the opinion of, so to speak, minorities, they entered the black zone of development.
    Explain that less developed components of society can say things that the more developed would not know. They themselves admit that even the more developed ones brought them writing, for which they thanked by cutting off their heads. Well, what are you going to talk to them about. In history and jurisprudence (international), there is only one indisputable argument - the law of power. The results of victories in wars are not disputed. Enemies in a war have no human rights. Losses among civilians in a war are inevitable losses. And if we are enemies (just don’t say that we and the blacks are one people, one country, some rights and another talking room) we are scampering like a written bag - we will lose and as a result our winners and daughters will rape the victors. And who does not want to get dirty - well, get ready for this. Not good win, not fair win, not humane win - no, everything is simpler. Strong and cruel win. Who do we want to be: good, fair, and losers, or strong, cruel, and victorious?
    And ask your wives and daughters. If you are men.
    1. Sergh
      +7
      19 January 2013 17: 05
      Quote: homosum20
      ask your wives and daughters. If you are men

      Well, you betrayed, well done! You are right, everyone wants to be, even if they are alive, and then they are alive and well, and how you yourself said! Somewhere you're right, man!
    2. +3
      19 January 2013 19: 07
      The very essence ... +
    3. 0
      20 January 2013 03: 01
      Not good win, not fair win, not humane win - no, everything is simpler. Strong and cruel win.
      The Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945 "confirms" the fosterlings of the Hitler Youth, but they weren't brought up strong and cruel, where are they now?
    4. -4
      20 January 2013 03: 19
      homosum20 ... Not good win, not fair win, not humane win - no, it's easier. Strong and cruel win. Who do we want to be: good, fair, and losers, or strong, cruel, and victorious?

      You're not right. young man. They always win. (hear: ALWAYS!) fair.
      1. Misantrop
        +4
        20 January 2013 03: 35
        Quote: urganov
        You're not right. young man. They always win. (hear: ALWAYS!) fair.

        Deep thought, bravo! So, until Germany started the war against the USSR, it was she who was the MOST fair in Europe? And such an interesting country as the United States is fairer than Yugoslavia, Lebanon and further on the list? In the Middle East, obviously, it’s fairer than Israel to find anyone, right? wassat
  21. 0
    19 January 2013 16: 52
    Cossack squads -what legislative act will this activity be regulated ?!
    The governor’s initiative doesn’t please me at all. I’ll explain why. Because after that, in Bashkiria, Tatarstan or in other regions, they will begin to create squads. In my opinion, this will lead to large negative processes in society. A dangerous trend. Law enforcement agencies must deal with the rule of law. IMHO
    1. +4
      19 January 2013 17: 49
      Law enforcement authorities sorry, reviewed. There is no faith for them.
    2. +4
      19 January 2013 19: 15
      I understand, I look naive ...
      ,,, "- what legislative act will regulate this activity ?!" ...
      Maybe the honor of the uniform and conscience will be regulated? Unfortunately, I cannot put these words, or rather the concept, next to the word "policeman", in spite of all their charters and the law regulating the activities of law enforcement agencies (and for me, it's so simple - agencies) ... Cossacks are better. .. My opinion, I do not impose ...
      1. +1
        20 January 2013 17: 10
        Why regulate what should organize itself? He killed - bury him alive in the ground. And then they gave him two years, he’ll come out to kill again ..
    3. Misantrop
      +2
      19 January 2013 20: 20
      Quote: Apollon
      Dangerous trend: law enforcement must deal with law and order

      In real life, there is usually a VERY long distance between "should" and "be engaged". This is how they really start to study, but with real efficiency, then the Cossacks will not be so relevant IMHO
      1. YARY
        +1
        20 January 2013 19: 10
        Sorry, Misanthrope, but your untruth!
        then the Cossacks will not be so relevant IMHO


        In the Cossack villages under the kings - NEVER and ANY policeman!
        Why are you thinking about it? The Cossack village is originally a "combat unit in apartments" - only on a stationary basis!
        Talk about what you have in mind. Take an interest and learn.
  22. +8
    19 January 2013 17: 00
    Quote: Apollon
    law enforcement should be involved.

    This is the whole problem, havebut unoccupied ..... that’s where the danger is .....
    1. 0
      20 January 2013 17: 12
      If a person is a sucker, no police will help him. Fought back scum, took off the beatings, he told the police! Everything, a suitcase-station-Taimyr.
  23. 0
    19 January 2013 17: 12
    Quote: Tersky
    That’s the whole problem, they should, but they don’t do it ..... that's where the danger is .....


    I welcome you Victor hi
    the paradox is that the top do not (or do not want what ) can ensure the rule of law and the citizens of the country suffer. It’s not necessary to create squads, but to change local authorities within the framework of the law.
    1. 0
      19 January 2013 17: 15
      To be frank to the end, the law enforcement agencies of any subject of the federation are subordinated, on the one hand, to their immediate superiors and, on the other hand, to the head of the subject of the federation, in this case Tkachev. what prevents Tkachev from putting things in order in the region???????????????

      post script
      The recent flood in Krymsk ................. what responsibility did Tkachev incur ?! If his conscience would have resigned.
      1. +9
        19 January 2013 18: 01
        Quote: Apollon
        It is not necessary to create squads, but to change local authorities within the framework of the law.

        Cossack squads were and will be, and they were created not by the Weavers, governors and kings, but by the way of life of the Cossacks throughout the history of the Cossacks. Speech in an article (or rather a blog), on the arming of Cossack squads. As for Tkachenko, and Krymsk, Kushchevka, this is just a question for law enforcement agencies, Cossacks, they tied their hands in 1917 year, and to this day they are holding clowns.
        1. +2
          19 January 2013 18: 20
          Quote: Tersky
          Cossack squads were and will be, and were created


          Dear Victor! Does anyone oppose the Cossacks. They were right and will be. Question in another, law enforcement is a function not characteristic of the Cossacks in modern realities. Cossacks are future soldiers by nature. They must be prepared for the service of protecting the fatherland, and + would send all their strength to the fight against hazing in the army.
          1. +4
            19 January 2013 18: 45
            Quote: Apollon
            they must be prepared for the service of protecting the fatherland,

            What are we doing, from an early age. That in hazing I can say one thing, there’s not enough for all the barracks and boys, and so I agree to all 100.
            1. +1
              19 January 2013 18: 50
              Quote: Tersky
              That in hazing I can say one thing, there’s not enough for all the barracks and boys, and so I agree to all 100.


              it’s necessary to create a military police. Such a need has ripened long ago + Cossacks could legally replenish the ranks of the civilian police.
              that is, order is ensured on the street and the fight against hazing in the army. I am a supporter of everything being within the law.
      2. +1
        20 January 2013 13: 16
        Well, you can see it better from Beglin, what do you know about Tkachev? or the nemchura will again try to teach us how to live, you have a bad memory ...
      3. +2
        20 January 2013 17: 14
        Do you offer yourself so modestly in place of Tkachev?
        And what responsibility should Tkachev bear for Krymsk? You were there?
    2. Misantrop
      +2
      19 January 2013 23: 06
      Quote: Apollon
      change local authority within the law.

      А mechanism Is there such a replacement in the laws? If not, then in this case - no more than a declaration
  24. +1
    19 January 2013 17: 14
    In the form in which the Cossacks are reborn, it looks like a bunch of buffoons, who have appropriated the titles to whom they like and who have hung awards to which are vaguely related. In the Kuban, people who are in power stubbornly move the Cossacks to legitimacy, thereby subordinating the powerful force in the struggle for complete control of the region. The fact that most of the land and enterprises of the region is the property of the Marquis of Karabas, and who is Karabas, I think it’s not worth explaining. This is the real situation.
  25. s1н7т
    -7
    19 January 2013 17: 19
    As I understand it, the Cossacks-this class was once there. There are no estates. Did the Cossacks remain? Well, it's funny! laughing
    And Tkachev is an irresponsible populist.
    1. -1
      19 January 2013 17: 20
      Quote: c1n7
      populist.



      good and + !!!
    2. +2
      20 January 2013 11: 45
      Quote: c1n7
      As I understand it, the Cossacks-this class was once there.

      It is, but the fact that the Bolsheviks from 21 to 33 years. tried to destroy it and erase the very word "estate" which defined not only the Cossacks, does not say anything ..
      1. s1н7т
        -2
        20 January 2013 20: 06
        Quote: Tersky
        It is,

        Open Vicky or something. To understand what "estate" is. And open the Constitution of the Russian Federation. To find out that we have no estates. However, what to take from the clown? laughing
    3. +4
      20 January 2013 13: 50
      s1н7тHe is one of the largest mafiosi in Russia, who also has official authority. Some have shaved heads, others have swampy ones, others have gangsters, and this one has Cossacks, and he gradually gives them power in the way he needs. I myself am a hereditary Cossack, my grandfathers and great-grandfathers were real Cossacks, I do not know about Cossacks by hearsay, and I am proud of my ancestors and my village, the short one was always at the forefront and one of the first to take on enemy raids and, nevertheless, I’m not going to enter into such Cossacks as I am now . Tkachev needs real strength, the Cossacks are being revived for this, but I don’t want to participate in their games with a pawn. Few people know that in our area, at the dawn of the Cossacks, there was preparation for rebellion among the Cossacks, weapons gathered from the villages through friends, from schools training machines, by hook or by crook. After small alterations from these weapons, it was possible to fire single-handedly. In the foothill villages they tried to recruit guides to the mountains, and finally one night they disarmed the district police station, having stolen all the weapons there, but as a result of the stupidity of individuals, which lit up this weapon on a drunken bench. And what do you think, it’s all organized by these half-drunken Here the connection was traced by the edge. I do not know how it was hushed up, but in the end only those who participated in the robbery of the police sat down, mind you for banditry. Conclusion - the Cossacks are created not only as a political force but also as a military one, and the one who does this has certain goals, which will ultimately lead to bloodshed.
      1. survivor
        0
        20 January 2013 14: 03
        here I am talking about that .... just the police have no hope, and the police do not have authority among the people. So they are trying to form a structure, a sort of small army.
  26. toguns
    +7
    19 January 2013 17: 19
    drinks who cares what Cossacks, the main thing is to have order in their heads and the rule of law on the street.
  27. +9
    19 January 2013 17: 32
    I support the armament of Cossack squads in the Kuban.
    To the author plus an advance for the title and the beginning of the article, but to lay out the trolling of barmaley is superfluous and it is so clear that they can 3.14 ride.
    The police are the police, and the Cossacks are the Cossacks, where the policeman takes a bribe and turns away, there the Cossacks wrapped the fins of the Basurman.
    Basurmans know what to fear, Cossacks in the Caucasus are their historical opponents and with whom you will not agree and will not be intimidated.
    After all, they still remember the Cossack battalion named after Yermolov TKV and know what modern Cossacks are in battle. They didn’t surrender to the Cossacks, and no one took them.
  28. Shind76
    +5
    19 January 2013 17: 32
    I am for order - for the people - even though the Cossacks will bring them - the main thing is that the Cossacks at least for the truth .............
  29. 0
    19 January 2013 17: 42
    With the arming of the Cossack people's squads with traumatic weapons, not everything is as simple as it seems. If this is assistance to the police in maintaining law and order on a voluntary basis in the image of the vigilantes in the USSR, this is one thing. But in the USSR (we will not discuss their effectiveness now), the vigilantes were on duty in their free time from their main work. Someone supports these, and this is a lot of money. So a private army appears so far only with traumatic weapons. And if the transition to combat is legalized? And if the Tatars, Bashkirs and other nationalities also want their "police assistants" in all regions of Russia, and ultimately with military weapons. So there will be private armies all over the country. Now let us remember how it began in Chechnya - with the abandonment of heaps of weapons by the monsters and the creation of various paramilitary organizations.
    1. +1
      19 January 2013 17: 53
      Quote: Vladimir 70
      And if the Tatars, Bashkirs and other nationalities also want their "police assistants" in all regions of Russia, and ultimately with military weapons. So there will be private armies across the country. Now let’s remember what started in Chechnya - with the freaks leaving a bunch of weapons and creating various paramilitary organizations.


      I about the same Vladimir hi
    2. +6
      19 January 2013 18: 07
      Quote: Vladimir 70
      And someone contains these, and these are considerable means.

      They themselves contain, do not overtake. In every Cossacks there is public property in the same way and shares. All income from the first is evenly distributed among families, as well as for general needs. Do not look for parasites ....
      1. +1
        19 January 2013 18: 17
        They themselves contain, do not overtake. In every Cossacks there is public property in the same way and shares. All income from the first is evenly distributed among families, as well as for general needs. Do not look for parasites ...
        SW Tersky, I'm not looking for parasites !!!!! And the question of financing is very interesting. You want to say that a share provides income allowing you to maintain a militarized organization? The question is precisely what would the Cossacks not grow into a private army.
        1. +4
          19 January 2013 18: 34
          Quote: Vladimir 70
          You want to say that a share provides income allowing you to maintain a militarized organization? The question is precisely what would the Cossacks not grow into a private army.

          Vladimir, just like that, the Cossacks are self-financing, and not a paramilitary organization, but traditions. There can be no talk of a private army, google about the hierarchy in the Cossacks, you will understand a lot
    3. Krasnoyarsk
      +9
      19 January 2013 18: 10
      Cossacks can legally patrol the streets, and a barrel against bearded macaques will not hurt
      1. Sergeant Air Force
        -2
        20 January 2013 00: 44
        Thinking macaques, apparently from you, once you allow yourself such statements.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          +2
          20 January 2013 13: 37
          The Kalkazians surpassed all our ours with their greyhounds, they violate public order, rob, kill. Friends are vital, and the diasporas with their proposals go even in three cheerful letters.
    4. Misantrop
      +1
      19 January 2013 20: 25
      Quote: Vladimir 70
      how it began in Chechnya - with freaks leaving a bunch of weapons

      Not with abandonment, not at all. With a categorical transfer order. And with the most severe control over the execution (which the military, as they could, sabotaged)

      Quote: Vladimir 70
      And if the Tatars, Bashkirs and other nationalities also want their "police assistants" in all regions of Russia, and even in the end with military weapons
      Oh, and now attack cruisers with ballistic missiles on board bear the names of cities and are staffed from there ... belay sad What is not a "private fleet", but with nuclear weapons ... wassat
      1. +2
        19 January 2013 20: 41
        Not with abandonment, not at all. With a categorical transfer order. And with the most severe control over the execution (which the military, as they could, sabotaged)
        You're right! So the order was given by the Russians! First, the Chechens fought a little among themselves, between their clans, and only then they climbed into neighboring territories for robberies. A man with a military weapon will not work, but will engage in robbery on a high road. I admit that among Chechens the bandits (the mentality also plays a role) is more in percentage terms than among other nationalities. But all the same, at first their freaks — Yeltsins, Gaidars, Chernomyrdins — didn’t interfere ... condemn and hang, and only then take on Chechens.
        1. Misantrop
          +1
          19 January 2013 20: 56
          Quote: Vladimir 70
          So the order was given by the Russians!

          Well, if the staff freaks bought by Berezovsky are considered Russian by default, then yes wink
          1. 0
            19 January 2013 21: 03
            Well, if the staff freaks bought by Berezovsky are considered Russian by default, then yes
            Who are the freaks of staff Chechens?
            1. Misantrop
              +3
              19 January 2013 21: 05
              Quote: Vladimir 70
              Who are the freaks of staff Chechens?

              Creatures and traitors. Selling nit does not have nationality IMHO, she sold it ...
              1. +3
                19 January 2013 21: 11
                Creatures and traitors. Selling nit does not have nationality IMHO, she sold it ..
                So, I say, first hang your creatures, regardless of the statute of limitations, and then take up the "mountain eagles". Otherwise, it is a fight against "windmills".
                1. Misantrop
                  +2
                  19 January 2013 21: 16
                  Quote: Vladimir 70
                  first hang your creatures, regardless of the statute of limitations, and then take on the "mountain eagles".
                  Will not work. For these "mountain eagles" are precisely the power component of that sales structure. For any corrupt official, such a well-fed brigade of visitors is much more convenient than local gangsters
                  1. +1
                    19 January 2013 21: 22
                    Will not work. For these "mountain eagles" are precisely the power component of that sales structure. For any corrupt official, such a well-fed brigade of visitors is much more convenient than local gangsters
                    It turns out that the main problem is in the corrupt bureaucrat, and not in the "mountain eagle".
                    1. Misantrop
                      +4
                      19 January 2013 22: 12
                      Quote: Vladimir 70
                      basic a problem in the corrupt bureaucrat
                      belay Which side of the coin is more money? wink IMHO with the advent of rich diasporas capable of:
                      1. At the same time lay out a large amount,
                      2. "Cover" the official they bought from the consequences of the law ...
                      just led with such a proliferation of corruption among officials
                      1. +1
                        19 January 2013 22: 17
                        1. At the same time lay out a large amount,
                        2. "Cover" the official they bought from the consequences of the law ...
                        just led with such a proliferation of corruption among officials
                        So with whom, nevertheless, should one begin with a corrupt bureaucrat or a mountain bandyuk?
              2. 0
                20 January 2013 17: 21
                Dear, these are double standards, why you Russian creatures and traitors do not have a nationality, and Chechen creatures and traitors are already Chechens. Serve in British intelligence?
        2. +5
          20 January 2013 11: 50
          Quote: Vladimir 70
          At first, the Chechens fought a little among themselves, between their clans,

          First, the Chechens "a little" cut the Russians out on the territory of the Chechen Republic of the Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, after the bulk of the Russian-speaking population fled from the republic, they started meteip showdowns, and only then they climbed onto adjacent territories ... which they had done for centuries ... Vladimir, more precisely it will be
          1. +2
            20 January 2013 11: 58
            Tersky, thanks for adding.
      2. 0
        19 January 2013 22: 41
        Oh, and now the attack cruisers with ballistic missiles on board bear the names of cities and are staffed from there ... What is not a "private fleet", but with nuclear weapons ..
        So I say that the whole question is who finances (contains) the cruiser, the organization-state or private individual
  30. +3
    19 January 2013 18: 12
    We have so many nationalists, so many words "black", "basurmanin", etc. in the comments, some comments are openly fascist. Friends, you can't either.
    1. +6
      19 January 2013 19: 21
      Tolerance will destroy us, so it’s not far from impotence .... But you went too far with fascism ... And in places, healthy nationalism, please notice without shaved heads and leather jackets ...
    2. Misantrop
      +1
      19 January 2013 20: 31
      Quote: MRomanovich
      some comments frankly fascist

      So that’s exactly what some do. But the observance of public order on the streets, this is still not fascism IMHO wink
    3. bask
      +7
      19 January 2013 20: 47
      Quote: MRomanovich

      We have so many nationalists, so many words "black", "basurmanin", etc. in the comments, some comments are openly fascist

      In Soviet times, they didn’t hear such concepts .. All sorties of extremists harshly suppressed the KGB. Question for the authorities put things in order if you can’t .....
  31. Sirob1996
    +9
    19 January 2013 18: 50
    the Cossacks have always been on guard of the state’s borders, with weapons in their hands, by the way,
    but about the "black" and other offensive nicknames, so any people have their own blacks and bastards
  32. anatoly.colonel
    +8
    19 January 2013 19: 03
    At least one leader was found who understands that without the Cossacks, not real masquerade-dressed Cossacks, but real ones! Thanks Tkachev! Lubo!
  33. skychnii
    +6
    19 January 2013 19: 23
    And the Cossacks of Cossacks are afraid of this.
  34. Hedgehog
    +9
    19 January 2013 19: 43
    I think so:
    If a person is rude, threatening me, beating me in the face, etc., then talk with him about tolerance, the antagonistic perception of my culture, etc. - this is stupid (at least))). Any person should be spoken in a language that he understands: if he is incredibly cultured and so on - he must be able not to offend his subtle and sensual nature, if he is a boor - he must certainly be firmly put in place, and not because it will help to assert itself, it will flatter my pride etc., no, just a boor just as well will not understand cultural speech, like an intellectual rudeness. The rationalization of an unbridled boor is the norm of behavior in any society! But for some reason we are trying to give this a touch of nationalist intolerance. WHAT FOR Nonsense ?! If I give in Russian to the ugly face - this is petty hooliganism, if under my fist there is a person of Caucasian nationality - this is Nazism, with all the ensuing consequences. Yes, I do not care what nation a person humiliates my or someone else's dignity! If he allows himself this, then he is ready for an adequate answer, and if so, then where does nationalism ???? Some garbage, honestly!
    Not if all this is given such a public outcry, then someone needs it. Zadolbali already these schemers!
  35. SEM
    SEM
    +1
    19 January 2013 19: 46
    The creation of Cossack squads is a justified act, but work and armament must be strictly regulated on the model of the Ministry of Internal Affairs or the army, so that it was impossible to use the activities of the Cossack squad to incite ethnic hatred for the sake of one nation, regardless of its place of residence throughout Russia, let it be Chechnya, Ingushetia or Krasnodar Territory or any other territory of the country.
  36. aleksandr46
    +6
    19 January 2013 19: 49
    I would try one of the Slavs to behave like they behave in Russian cities and provinces - hardly anyone ever found the remains of these people - they would do without traumatism and no one would admit that they saw these people at all!
  37. gladiatorakz
    +6
    19 January 2013 19: 52
    Without Cossacks, the matter is tight. It is necessary to revive the estate of warriors. Warrior training from birth and all life. (Highlanders tried to give their children upbringing to the Cossacks.) Now, if you take it from the Suvorov school, then they have been cooking since the age of 14. And even then, they begin to cook already in the tower. Russia needs to have 10-15 million Cossacks. Ukraine 2-5 million
  38. WW3
    WW3
    +11
    19 January 2013 20: 02
    I fully support .. the Cossacks will put things in order ... the abreks are impudent.
  39. +2
    19 January 2013 20: 03
    someone wrote above about medals from the Cossacks, if I’m not mistaken, these are inherited awards .....
    1. +4
      20 January 2013 15: 59
      kubanec, And what is the sign of a high deer to wear other people's awards? I am proud of them, but I will never allow myself to wear them even if my grandfather approved it, because I did not deserve them. And they often buy medals and orders, and sometimes they don’t have any at all attitude to the history of the Cossacks is a reward. And such people walk around our village defiantly waving a foot, half of which squandered from the army or were there, and there is such power. I agree there are people who believe in the idea of ​​reviving the Cossacks, and there are not a few of them, but those whom I see and know I feel sorry for.
      For that matter, and now there is work for the Cossacks, for example, in the district I know quite a few cases of raids from the Karachay-Cherkessia side stupidly dropping cattle - here is work for them, to organize patrols and patrol forest zones, so no, they need power over people .Here, literally recently, I had such a case, by the nature of my studies, I met one old man - a disabled person, with no fingers on both hands. So he told me such a story: A local Cossack was spinning in the neighborhood here, and the old grandfather Opel liked him, says sell. And grandfather to him, you say you will sometimes help me with the housework? Since there are no fingers, nail a board or grass to mow in the garden, and I will give it to you for nothing - they shook hands winked Bye grandfather
      did the documents, he visited him himself, as soon as he received the documents and the trail was gone - the grandfather would not get through. And he is bukhoi, without a license, like a Schumacher rushes around the village. What attitude can there be to such a freak? I agree that Russians are being oppressed, the very word Russian becomes seditious, if Caucasians beat Russians, this is hooliganism, and if a Caucasian is pinned down, this is nationalism. And all this comes from above, the national self-denunciation of Russians is suppressed. Wherever you look, Russian drunks, Russian invaders, etc., etc. around the Russians are to blame, which in turn spurs the nat. minorities to declare themselves in the most insolent way. And so it turns out, if you look at the root of the problem, it turns out that the authorities are to blame. So it creates this problem and, under the guise of solving this problem, creates Cossack squads, the question is why is it so difficult? This is an official reason to have your own army, which at any time can be armed and used for your own purposes. I see there are comrades here who support the regional power. In Soviet times, they said that the head of the region, Medunov, was a tough mafia, and so, now he did not roll around Google on the internet what Tkachev owns and you will understand everything. Only for the struggle that he unleashed with the notorious plague for the sake of the prosperity of his meat industry, it is time to retire him long ago. Declared the source of infection of wild boars, which is not proven, he began to throw poison from helicopters, As a result, not only wild boars died, but also raccoons, badgers, bears, and the number of roe deer and deer was also greatly reduced. Previously, it was possible to go outside the village for mushrooms to meet some wild animal, but now, having walked 25 km in the summer, I did not find a single trace. Then methodically, first, reducing the number of pigs allowed for keeping on a personal farm to 1 head, and the aftermath and forced slaughter of the rest of the population with the presence of a police squad. And surprisingly, we did not see a single head that died from the plague. But next to the Tkachev pig farms, pigs swim head over heels in shit and the plague does not threaten them. All this is a means of fighting competitors. We can't keep pigs, and the counters are full of pork from these pig farms. The "Agrocomplex" enterprise is actively buying up the lands we like around us, and it does not matter whether they were in someone's possession or not, the owner is offered to disappear in a rude manner, who did not listen, they discover brucellosis and the whole herd under the knife is forced. business under the guise of power, your dear governor. Draw your own conclusions.
  40. +13
    19 January 2013 20: 23
    Quote: c1n7
    As I understand it, the Cossacks-this class was once there.

    There were always Cossacks — there were different hordes, there were many Cossacks, Volga, Kuban, Rostov, Ukrainian, it was they who conquered the entire territory for the country, and it was illogical to disarm them, the people forgot where and where, Caucasians didn’t in the valleys until the 17th century appeared, it was already during the Soviet era that they became a settled people, and under Eltsinoid they were allowed to flock to the valleys, WHERE THE PEOPLE BREAD GROWED, from there the frictions between the settled Cossacks and the descendant descendants of the manks started. I know normal guys who study, work , I know beautiful pilots, scientists, but some of them obviously recently got down from the trees, and probably need the supervision of a PSYCHIATRA, in general I had an idea - I’m not afraid to block these freaky words, take their phone and ... call his father with a question, ..- what to do according to your freak, and according to your laws !!!!
  41. vladsolo56
    +3
    19 January 2013 20: 50
    I don’t understand why then we need power in the country, if it cannot restore order, arming people will lead to armed clashes. Trauma will be replaced by combat and a conflict will begin in a hot spot. How long the authorities will shut up the brainlessness of ordinary citizens, everyone should do his own thing, guard the police, build builders, and treat doctors. Otherwise, we get to the point where
    1. bask
      +7
      19 January 2013 20: 59
      Quote: vladsolo56
      u will replace the combat and a conflict will begin in a hot spot.

      All questions to the authorities ..
    2. Misantrop
      +2
      19 January 2013 21: 01
      Quote: vladsolo56
      arming people will lead to armed clashes. Trauma will be replaced by combat and a conflict will begin in a hot spot.

      And now do toy-thongs go? wink If the protected citizen is able, if necessary, to defend himself as a brutal circular saw, the need for protection is significantly reduced. Just because the number of riskers is getting smaller
      1. vladsolo56
        0
        19 January 2013 21: 14
        You do not know how to read or do not want to think. Or you got stuck, It was written that you need power to restore order, do you really want to start a small war, you don’t have enough blood, or are you so sure that this will not affect you?
        1. Misantrop
          +3
          19 January 2013 22: 30
          Quote: vladsolo56
          It was written that to restore order you need power

          So get her out, what are you hiding her in your pocket? Just POWER is now at the ruling regime above his head, just what the regime spends this power? For personal enrichment and consolidation of one’s dominant position. Or is there a hope that everything will change soon, that the rulers will have a conscience? Share the reasons for your optimism.

          I will not tire of repeating: ENDURANCE (any) comes precisely from IMPUNITY. What is gangster, what is domineering. And if at least a theoretical possibility of resistance appears, the lawlessness begins to cringe. This is a universal law, which has been tested, including in the open spaces of the former USSR. Do Moldavians drink less or do they have more rationality? Maybe they have no unsubstantiated conflict in Transnistria? Or is the mentality so different from all the other peoples of the USSR that after the legalization of the short-barrel there the bloody bacchanalia did not begin with a general showdown? In Abkhazia there are now ANY more weapons than the population, why haven’t they killed each other there yet? Had there been at least minimal disassembly, they would have been inflated to heaven in order to disrupt the holiday season. BUT ... for some reason silence. Are you not disabled? Do your hands work? Why didn’t you strangle any of your neighbors by drinking? Or not stabbed, there are enough knives in the kitchen wink
    3. gladiatorakz
      +8
      19 January 2013 21: 08
      Quote: vladsolo56
      How long the authorities will shut up the brainlessness of ordinary citizens, everyone should do his own thing, guard the police, build builders, and treat doctors. Otherwise, we get to the point where

      So we can say that the partisans of the Second World War were not doing their job? Is there an army, let it go and fight?
      If we analyze in more detail the organization and preparation of terrorist attacks, then in most cases it can be seen that behind the success of terrorists is betrayal, venality of law enforcement officers. There the traffic cops let in a bribe, the local policeman was lured there, and there the head of the friendship department ordered not to touch. The Cossack will not betray for any money. He defends the Family, Rod, Homeland.
      1. vladsolo56
        -3
        19 January 2013 21: 16
        You yourself recognize the worthlessness of the authorities, but however, how is the election so all for United Russia that you really want war and blood?
        1. vladsolo56
          0
          19 January 2013 21: 22
          So in this thread, it’s a minus to put complete nonsense, what a person can think about showing such wild stupidity
          1. gladiatorakz
            +2
            19 January 2013 21: 30
            Quote: vladsolo56
            So in this thread, it’s a minus to put complete nonsense, what a person can think about showing such wild stupidity

            I try not to minus anyone at all. wink Minus only those who are trying to quarrel Ukrainians with Russians (not to be confused with the Russians).
        2. gladiatorakz
          +4
          19 January 2013 21: 27
          Quote: vladsolo56
          You yourself recognize the worthlessness of the authorities, but however, how is the election so all for United Russia that you really want war and blood?

          Of course I do not want war. BUT ... Doesn’t it seem to you that she’s already going? Yes, not what many people imagine, divisions in the trenches, tank wedges, etc. War of a different level. Not an armory, but an ideological one. By and large - two options. 1. Surrender and go with the flow. (there is a president, a Duma, etc.- whatever they want, I’ll adjust as well. Not to annoy and provoke Caucasians - they may not notice) 2. Fight. And again, two options. 2.1. To win. 2.2. To die not conquered.
          The unanimity of Russians for EP surprised no less than yours. We have our own choices.
          1. vladsolo56
            0
            19 January 2013 21: 32
            My conviction is that first of all it is necessary to fight not with the Caucasians, but simply and urgently to fight with the authorities, until there is normal power. it’s war that cannot be avoided. I am not against the squads, but I am for what it would be like an emergency. And necessarily controlled by some military structures again, and not amateur performances at our level
            1. gladiatorakz
              +2
              20 January 2013 11: 48
              Quote: vladsolo56
              My conviction is that first of all it is necessary to fight not with the Caucasians, but simply and urgently to fight with the authorities, until there is normal power. it’s war and cannot be avoided,

              The fact is that the ONLY source of power is the PEOPLE. Now there is such a situation, of course, that people are pushed away from governing the country and influencing at least some processes. The only way so far to choose the people's power is the Cossack Circle or Mock Law (among men). Elements of the same Kopfnogo Rights can be implemented now. Choose an older house, block, street. And decide your business with your mind. From such cells in the future a new, popular government will grow.
              1. bask
                +1
                20 January 2013 11: 58
                Quote: gladiatorakz
                Elements of the same Kopfnogo Rights can be implemented now. Choose an older house, block, street. And decide your business with your mind. From these cells in the future will grow a new, popular government

                It is in the Krasnodar Territory and the Don that such a union is possible. And here I said against the word or, all the more, made article No. 282, for inciting international ... ethnic hatred, and prison Question. And in Ukraine there is such an article ???
                1. gladiatorakz
                  +1
                  20 January 2013 12: 14
                  Quote: bask
                  And in Ukraine there is such an article ???

                  No, Glory to the Gods! Yes, we have Caucasians and educations. laughing
                  Yes, and in Russia, I hope a lot of guys are left, who will not scare prison?
                  And an example here should be the Brothers - Belarus. That's who has order!
                  Quote: bask
                  It is possible in the Krasnodar Territory and on the Don

                  In Russia, at different times there were 7-12 Cossack troops. These are quite vast territories. If even if they would legitimize the ataman, the choice of the Circle (mayor, judges, governors, deputies), then in 5-10 years these lands will be in the lead in terms of living and fertility. And the deputies of these districts, going to the Duma, will dilute this homogeneous V.V. Only then will the TRUE rise of Russia begin!
        3. Misantrop
          +2
          19 January 2013 22: 38
          Quote: vladsolo56
          Do you really want war and blood?

          Why are you so scaring everyone with war and blood? The FIRST thing that the newly-minted gang-oligarchic structures did after the collapse of the USSR was armed to the teeth. Only unarmed most law abiding. Where did you get that, not arming, but only allowing it law abiding citizens, lawmakers will overturn the remnants of order in the country, will they begin a bloody redistribution?

          Quote: vladsolo56
          showing such wild stupidity
          To consider that it is from law-abiding people that the BASIC threat to order in the country comes - the top of prudence? laughing
  42. -1
    19 January 2013 20: 56
    Actually, I don’t see a problem. Let there be Cossack squads, Chechen, Armenian, Dagestan. If they are on guard of the law ........... then at least Mongolian squads!
    1. MG42
      +6
      19 January 2013 21: 38
      Chechen and Dagestan squads are superfluous. hi
      1. 0
        19 January 2013 22: 01
        Quote: MG42
        Chechen and Dagestan squads are superfluous

        And what are they superfluous ???
        Do we have to build houses, roads, work in factories or guard our peace! And it turns out that these regions are usually subsidized, the military from all over Russia are chasing gangs.
        And what actually prevents them from being responsible for their well-being?
        Recently, the desire of some leaders of the Caucasian republics to slip into paradise for free has been very traced !!
        But this does not happen, anyway, someone pays for them with money, lives, working hours.
        1. MG42
          +7
          19 January 2013 22: 14
          Russians do not move to Chechnya, for example, but the reverse process is going on = >> if these Dagestan and Chechen squads act only within the borders of their territories = will most likely be just separatism?
          on the topic of processes = Russians are not comfortable here - they left, we are comfortable - we arrived. = >>>
          1. bask
            +5
            19 January 2013 22: 37
            Quote: MG42
            Usk not moving to Chechnya for example

            Congresses in Chechnya for a day .. AND YOUR LIFE WILL BE, RIDER WITHOUT A HEAD ...
            1. MG42
              +6
              20 January 2013 05: 56
              Quote: bask
              Congresses in Chechnya for a day.

              There is no spare. anyone can be left without a head anywhere, especially if the head is needed so that only it is in it and not to think at all. There just the probability of this is much higher. And they can do everything and not only in the mountains = tolerance is in full swing.
              1. bask
                +3
                20 January 2013 11: 12
                Quote: MG42
                they can do everything and not only in the mountains = tolerance is in full swing.

                And who argues MG42 Thank you in Ukraine there is no such Caucasian lawlessness .. And they support their diasporas. They support the Kremlin. For EDRO in the national republics ... 100% result. We gave one hundred percent, we do what we want. Power on their side.
                1. stroporez
                  +2
                  20 January 2013 18: 49
                  Duc Moth is more correct for the authorities to let the little red out of the whale ???????????
        2. His
          +5
          19 January 2013 23: 58
          You say Chechen squads ... This we have already passed (Maskhad, Basayev, etc.)
      2. +5
        19 January 2013 22: 19
        Chechen and Dagestan squads on maybach and cayenne with injuries are already patrolling Moscow in full swing, and many large cities are a fait accompli!
    2. bask
      +5
      19 January 2013 22: 20
      Quote: APASUS
      problem. Let there be Cossack squads, Chechen, Armenian, Dagestan. E

      It will not be squads A BAND..FORMATION ...
      1. MG42
        +3
        19 January 2013 22: 27
        Quote: bask
        It will not be squads A BAND..FORM

        100 %. Grasp the old.
      2. +2
        19 January 2013 22: 45
        Quote: bask
        It will not be squads A BAND..FORMATION.

        Do you always reply to a passage of text? I’ll copy for you
        .If they are on guard of the law ........... then at least the Mongol squads!
        1. bask
          +3
          19 January 2013 22: 52
          Quote: APASUS
          Are you always responding to a passage of text? I’ll copy for you
          .If they are on guard of the law ........... then at least the Mongol squads!

          FOR THEM ONE LAW, the Sharia law ,, The law of the mountains is ours ... they don’t give a damn about you and me .. You don’t know the mentality of the mountaineers, don’t write fantasy ... I lived in .Grozny ... I know what am I writing about ........ ,,
          1. +2
            19 January 2013 23: 05
            Quote: bask
            FOR THEM ONE LAW, the Sharia law ,, The law of the mountains is ours ... they don’t give a damn about you and me .. You don’t know the mentality of the mountaineers, don’t write fantasy ... I lived in .Grozny ... I know what am I writing about ........ ,,

            I don’t want to argue. Although I served there. There is another important fact - the Caucasus is modern and under the USSR it is like heaven and earth.
            I want to say that there are people and scum in any nation. I had to deal with an honest gypsy, and normal Dagestanis and Azerbaijanis
    3. +2
      19 January 2013 23: 30
      Not a question, only in their own country, and not in Russia.
  43. sergey261180
    -2
    19 January 2013 21: 13
    Came up with another drank dough. What is the use of "law enforcement" then? In general, this government only knows how to steal. And "Russians" think how to defend themselves. Rescue of drowning people, as they say ...
  44. +6
    19 January 2013 21: 21
    Since the Cossacks decided to create squads, it means a pre-war. They live there and they know better what to do. The state does not protect - they protect themselves.
    1. vladsolo56
      -6
      19 January 2013 21: 24
      they won’t protect themselves, it’s all a provocation, there will be a massacre and still have to raise an army, or at least an explosive. only until all this unfolds there will be a bunch of dead and a sea of ​​blood. that's what bad heads call for.
  45. +8
    19 January 2013 21: 36
    People, what kind of nonsense are you talking about? We are talking about voluntary squads and injuries in all of modern history, there has not been a single case that such formations provoked the massacre, but they did stop it! sorry if that for sharpness boils. Although most really do not know what is at stake.
    1. vladsolo56
      -4
      19 January 2013 21: 41
      You understand that usually it all starts with a shot, and often with a single shot, you may not be aware of the lethal outcomes of traumatic injuries. if it’s necessary to put things in order, they should create not national squads, but full-fledged special units of quick reaction, with a charter and leadership. That there would be no reasons for reciprocal mass steps.
      1. +2
        19 January 2013 21: 53
        I understand your logic, but in practice, the units you are talking about are involved when things are already completely seamy and not only here, but everywhere in the world.
      2. bask
        +11
        19 January 2013 22: 02
        Quote: vladsolo56
        You understand that usually it all starts with a shot,

        In Chechnya, from 1991 to 1994, Someone didn’t shoot ... There, they just simply cut the heads of entire Russian families, but not only.
        Quote: vladsolo56
        there were no reasons for reciprocal mass steps.

        And moreover in large numbers. The Jews know every surname and name for their Holocaust. And how many civilians died in Russia, 000 information. They killed-brutally and that’s all. Someone is not responsible. Not a few people were torn to pieces by the militants .... Hundreds of thousands of refugees.
        1. +7
          19 January 2013 23: 26
          Quote: bask
          In Chechnya, from 1991 to 1994, Someone didn’t shoot ... There, they just simply cut the heads of entire Russian families, but not only.

          From 91 to 94, about 30 of thousands of Russian speakers ..... this is official, but not ...........
          1. bask
            +8
            19 January 2013 23: 41
            Quote: Tersky

            From 91 to 94, about 30 thousand Russian-speaking ..... this is official, but not ......

            It’s sad and painful. From the fact that more than one scumbag-a sadist did not stand trial. And did not get a bullet in the forehead .. for the genocide of the Russian population of Chechnya. In the 90s. THE KINGDOM is HEAVENLY, ALL INNOCENTLY KILLED RUSSIAN RESIDENTS of Chechnya. 30 THOUSAND PEOPLE !! ! men of old men, women, children !!!!! Killed and everything .. NOT WHO IS NOT FORGOTTEN, NOT THAT IS NOT FORGOTTEN ...
            1. +4
              20 January 2013 00: 04
              Quote: bask
              Sad and hurt

              And ashamed .... in front of children and grandchildren both of them and their own ...
              1. bask
                +5
                20 January 2013 00: 59
                Quote: Tersky

                And ashamed .... in front of children and grandchildren, both their and theirs

                We now have one thing left. MEMORY .. So that children and grandchildren know about the tragic past of their parents. But I know evil will be punished .. Good will win. God's Judgment is already underway, but the human will certainly be ..
            2. Eric
              +1
              20 January 2013 17: 31
              Support.
        2. Eric
          +1
          20 January 2013 17: 30
          In one shoot, an FSK officer:
          - There were cases when we went into the cellars and found our soldiers with their ears cut off, their eyes gouged out. Well, these are animals, we will shoot such people on the spot.

          His approximate words.

          Then there were cases of tearing up the abdomen, cutting off the chest, taking a stake, and driving a pregnant girl into the stomach, alive. Some scum a crowd of people so at least 10, raped a little girl.

          91-94 ...
      3. Misantrop
        +4
        20 January 2013 02: 45
        Quote: vladsolo56
        if it’s necessary to put things in order, they should create not national squads, but full-fledged special units of quick reaction, with a charter and leadership

        And how many such units nationwide are required? And their total number? Million and a half is enough? With this course, soon every civilian in the special forces will have to be assigned wassat
  46. +9
    19 January 2013 21: 46
    The correct whipping and the ability to own it (and if it is also in equestrian patrolling) will be steeper than any injury.
  47. +2
    19 January 2013 22: 21
    Right, but the right to wear a whip and pants with stripes must be earned.
    Quoting comments (NEMO and others) - first you need to return the Cossacks to its original status with its rights and obligations. For the Cossack freemen paid military service and constant readiness for it. They were brought up in severity and dignity, respect for the elders and the Tsar-Batyushka. So we must first legitimize the status of the Cossacks, then see how they hold this status, and only then you can distribute the whips ...
    And in general - I remember that in the days of the USSR active service could be served in the Army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. So who prevents the current Cossacks from serving in existing structures?
    1. Misantrop
      +1
      20 January 2013 11: 34
      Quote: SlavaP
      first you need to return the Cossacks to its original status with its rights and obligations
      Strange, I always thought that it is better to assign status to something real. You can even restore the status of the Amazons tomorrow, but will it be useful? IMHO, let them first be reborn, and the status can be given later, according to their capabilities and responsibilities (exactly as it was originally. Cossacks first arose and took shape, and they were given the status later). And it’s not so long ago that police status was created recently in the Russian Federation, but it’s more difficult to find police officers (corresponding to him) than a polar bear in the tropics laughing
      1. gladiatorakz
        0
        20 January 2013 12: 23
        Quote: Misantrop
        even if they are revived at first, and the status can be given later, in fact of their capabilities and responsibility (exactly as it was originally. At first the Cossacks arose and took shape, and then they were given the status later

        It would have been reasonable to combine the Cossacks under the supervision of the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense or the GRU. (As the FSB - PV) To develop a concept of use, armament, service, interaction, training, etc. Cossack is a natural Warrior! Ready partisan, law enforcement. Stabilization of areas - no equal!
        I am sure the Cossacks are only at the beginning of their heyday and rise. The "mummers" and others will soon fall off, and the real family Cossacks will remain.
        1. Misantrop
          0
          20 January 2013 12: 31
          Quote: gladiatorakz
          It would have been reasonable to combine the Cossacks under the supervision of the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense or the GRU.

          I do not quite agree. The fact is that now in these units (namely in the upper headquarters) there are now solid parquet strategists. Give them free rein on this, they SO SUCH that they will have to disentangle for a long time. And again, wash the Cossacks from the dirt into which these leaders, who are not too clean, will have time to draw him
          1. gladiatorakz
            +1
            20 January 2013 13: 10
            Quote: Misantrop
            The fact is that now in these units (namely in the upper headquarters) there are now solid parquet strategists. Give them free rein on this, they SO SUCH that they will have to disentangle for a long time.

            It is clear that the concept must comply with common sense. 1. idea, way of life, the way of the Cossacks 2. military science.
            Now the Cossacks are greatly influenced by the Russian Orthodox Church. Let them make their own conclusions about their moral, moral purity. But the motives are easily traced. I don’t know how in Russia, but in Ukraine, most of the Cossacks degenerate into a church security service, sort of security personnel. Not all.
            1. Misantrop
              +2
              20 January 2013 14: 14
              Quote: gladiatorakz
              in Ukraine, most of the Cossacks degenerate into a church security service

              In Crimea, this has not yet been observed, fortunately. Here, the Cossacks are mainly struggling with the dominance of the Tatars.
        2. +1
          20 January 2013 21: 59
          Quote: gladiatorakz
          I am sure the Cossacks are only at the beginning of their heyday and rise. The "mummers" and others will soon fall off, and the real family Cossacks will remain.
          I will be very glad of this, and I myself will join their ranks. But while they shout to any unsinkable governor, whom even the flood in Krymsk did not shake, there will always be switchmen, and thousands of dead, mostly children and women, mind you not about two hundred, but about ten thousands, no matter how it did not affect his career. He still had the audacity to declare: If, according to the results of the commission's work, my fault is determined, I will resign. And when such a person revives the Cossacks, no matter how fluffy his members are, I have no trust in these people, because there is no trust in this person. No one knows how the Cossacks will be used, when the voices against such a power will sound louder, and the Cossacks will not be Caucasians but will cut our heads off. "If the stars light up in the sky, then this is a como - then it is necessary" request
          1. gladiatorakz
            0
            21 January 2013 12: 10
            Quote: vair
            I will be very happy about this, and I will join them. But as long as they shout to any unsinkable governor, whom even the flood in Krymsk did not shake, there will always be switchmen, and thousands of children and women who died mostly, notice not only about two hundred, but about ten thousand, not how it didn’t affect his career.

            I do not know for sure the situation in your region. (I always want to hope for the best). It is clear that at this stage they are trying to use the Cossacks for their own purposes, but ... while this coincides with OUR goals (the rule of law), this should be welcomed.
            The generic Cossack himself, but I also don’t enter the Cossacks, because I see that so far I have no way with them. My ideas about the real Cossack differ from the way I see.
  48. +5
    19 January 2013 22: 47
    The Chechens decided to revive "independent Chechnya", but the trouble is, they did not create it with a noble goal to work for the good of their independent republic, and the fool understands that it is simply impossible for several hundred thousand inhabitants to live in the modern world on a patch of mountainous land, and that's all - there was simply a pretext for unpunished robbery and robbery, which is what the Chechens did, they practically fell back to the days of feudalism, right up to the introduction of slavery. And the Russian Armed Forces did the right thing to bomb this hornet's nest. With the surviving Chechens, it was necessary to act like Stalin, to evict them to the Anadyr region, without any right of return, and whoever robbed and robbed, destroyed mercilessly.
  49. +9
    19 January 2013 22: 54
    I read the reviews. Someone blames why publish bloggers reviews. I think that it is necessary. We must know the opinions of others. And the comments on the site show that most of the idea of ​​Cossack squads is perceived positively. True, there are individual opponents, as well as a couple of provocateurs. But where did it go without? The attempt of some to build the Cossacks into a separate nation is not supported. The Cossack is not a nationality, but a certain mentality, state of mind, faith, fidelity, priority of common interests over personal interests, willingness to give their lives for their Fatherland, and much more, which makes a person who adheres to certain principles and living according to them has the right to bear the title of Cossack. At present, I consider the main task of the Cossacks: maintaining the rule of law and educating the younger generation in the best traditions of patriotism and love for the motherland. Sincerely.
    1. +4
      19 January 2013 23: 08
      Quote: suharev-52
      .Kazak is not a nationality, but a certain mentality, state of mind, faith, fidelity, priority of common interests over personal interests, willingness to give their lives for their Fatherland, and much more, which makes a person who adheres to certain principles and lives by it entitled to carry the title of Cossack.

      Thank! You can’t say better.
    2. His
      +1
      19 January 2013 23: 30
      The Cossacks and its traditions must be developed. They created at one time the Russian Empire. All lands are joined by Cossacks. You won’t get betrayal from them. Even having a tooth for extermination under the advice of Stalin, they are still for Russia and not against it. In the Chechen wars, none of the Cossacks fought on the side of the Chechens, and the Ukrainians fought by the way. So choose who is better and what is more valuable for Russia
      1. 0
        20 January 2013 03: 16
        They created at one time the Russian Empire
        Peter the Great created the Russian empire, and Russia, as a power, was saved by the militia of Minin and Pozharsky, and you can read how the Cossacks behaved at that time if there is a hunt.
        1. 0
          20 January 2013 17: 45
          Peter 1 came to everything ready, did not grow territories (he returned what he himself lost), reforms began to be carried out before him, the regiments of the foreign system were already there, etc.
          There is an opinion that he did not build the city (St. Petersburg), but renamed the already existing one, that same Mr. Veliky Novgorod. The description of its construction looks too implausible, but this is not the only argument.
  50. sergej.salnikov2012
    +2
    19 January 2013 23: 26
    I completely agree with you suharev-52, however, I believe that in no case can Cossack squads give out injuries, it is necessary to give out normal weapons, combat
  51. +2
    20 January 2013 00: 04
    As Tkachev himself said, I don’t remember verbatim, but the meaning is this: in order not to find ourselves in the situation in which the Stavropol region is now, we must take preventive measures.
    I’ve seen these squads many times in Krasnodar, it’s okay, they walk calmly and don’t bother anyone. I just haven’t seen them in smaller populated areas.
  52. +4
    20 January 2013 00: 23
    Quote: sergej.salnikov2012
    it is necessary to issue normal weapons, combat

    Indeed, the Cossacks = a military caste, like the Suvorov School, always got along with weapons from an early age, in fact this is a civilian border army, and like any army has its own charter and honor, the Cossacks have always defended the Motherland, and it is best to defend the Motherland with weapons, and not whips.
  53. Cold
    -5
    20 January 2013 01: 11
    The Cossacks should perform in the circus, and not meddle in the affairs of the state, not incite discord. There is a police force where people not from Mars serve, there are good and bad, just like among the Cossacks.. “Cossack squads in the Kuban - strengthening law and order or another step of Great Russian chauvinism” aside transformation into the Ku Klux Klan.
  54. +3
    20 January 2013 01: 13
    Quote: SlavaP
    Right, but the right to wear a whip and pants with stripes must be earned.

    As a Siberian Cossack (my ancestors were Kuban people who were resettled in the XNUMXth century to strengthen the Siberian Linear Cossack Army), the question arises: who can I “earn money from”?

    first you need to return the Cossacks to their original status with their rights and responsibilities.

    Just Google it, a lot has already been done in the form of legislation and is still being done,

    Cossack freemen were paid for with military service and constant readiness for it. They were brought up in severity and dignity, respect for elders and the Tsar-Father. So we must first legitimize the status of the Cossacks, then see how they maintain this status, and only then we can distribute whips...

    Empty chatter from a person far from the history of the Cossacks and their modern life in Russia.

    And in general - I remember that in the days of the USSR active service could be served in the Army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. So who prevents the current Cossacks from serving in existing structures?

    This is how they serve, my dear, they serve a lot, and I served. But if you perceive the Cossacks as just another government service, then I repeat again, increase your awareness.
    The Cossacks are, first of all, the people of the Russian Language, the Orthodox Faith, and the Military Craft.
  55. +1
    20 January 2013 01: 49
    Quote: Sergh
    Carefully examined, never seen such Cossacks, and indeed. In Novosibirsk we have practically none of them, well, maybe I don’t know, but they see the shape in the photo is very expensive, impressive.

    Novosibirsk is the territory of the Siberian Cossack army.
    And the uniform of the Siberian Cossacks is like this:
    [img=left]http://www.siberia-cossack.org/?pid=596[/img]
    And here is a link to the website of the Novosibirsk OKO SibKV
    siberia-cossack.org
    1. Rds12
      +1
      20 January 2013 06: 36
      Quote: GOLUBENKO
      Novosibirsk is the territory of the Siberian Cossack army.

      Sorry, but the entire territory of Siberia never belonged to any Cossacks.
      These are the lands of northern Turkic-speaking nomadic peoples. “Sbr” - sweeps or sweeps, in our opinion it will be. This is the Siberian Khanate. The Cossacks are guests there.

      I'll just say this on topic:
      Why the hell are the Cossacks prohibited from helping to maintain law and order on their own land? First of all, the Cossacks protect ordinary people from the lawlessness of the cops.
      1. 0
        20 January 2013 19: 38
        What about the city of Simbirsk? What was called Siberia two hundred and three hundred years ago and what is called Siberia now are completely different geographical concepts. So let your theory remain on the conscience of the authors.
  56. Larus
    +1
    20 January 2013 02: 37
    This government does not need the Russian people, it has completely different interests. Therefore, even give the Cossacks guns, they will not be allowed to use them for their intended purpose, and they will also be imprisoned for possessing weapons, while the mountaineers without exception own them. Under the Tsar of the Cossacks, oh how they were afraid to touch , because They knew that they would take it to the fullest, but now they are allowed to do things in vain and turn a blind eye to it.
  57. Rds12
    +2
    20 January 2013 06: 28
    Welcome all!

    Dear, please do not confuse "Sharia lawand "laws of the mountains".

    I am an orientalist and I know what Sharia really is. Sharia is a system of justice (legal order) and has nothing to do with these aggressive subhumans. Saudis, Wahhabis, radicals and other shaitans are in no way connected with the Sharia system and Islam.

    Here is a useful article about Islam and the Orthodox: http://omsk-eparhiya.ru/main/Vladika/Books/pravosl-islam/pravosl-islam.htm
    I advise you to read it, because it is not good to carry heresy and spread misinformation.

    When these “deer” and their “brothers in mind” from the mountains are called Muslims, followers of Sharia, etc., I get an image fascist peacemaker, ardent supporter of pacifism those. absolute nonsense!

    If we take the REAL Sharia, then according to the law they would immediately be sent far away and for a long time to correct their behavior and work on their upbringing. Plus, they would be forced to fully work out the damage caused + apologize to everyone and give their word in front of everyone that they will not do this again. Deportation (expulsion) is prescribed for those who are especially violent, and an ax to the head for those who are extremely dangerous. It's easy to kill, so in fairness, let him work it out to the fullest. Next Once he thinks with his head, he will be an example for others.

    I can’t say anything about the “laws of the mountains.”
    1. Misantrop
      +1
      20 January 2013 11: 01
      Quote: RDS12
      If we take the REAL Sharia, then according to the law they would immediately be sent far away and for a long time to correct their behavior and work on their upbringing
      When representatives of the REAL Sharia declare (loudly) these scumbags outlawed, then we can seriously listen to this. In the meantime, any punishment of this two-legged creature causes almost hysterics in the Muslim world, how, they touched a fellow believer. First of all, figure it out, Muslim citizens, whether these scumbags are fellow believers or not. Until you figure it out, be prepared to be judged by them. And don't make much of a distinction (if you don't do it yourself)
      1. Rds12
        +2
        20 January 2013 17: 09
        Greetings!

        They are already illegal. Everyone only sees what is profitable to show in the media (how bad they are), but no one shows how the Muslims of the Russian Federation themselves fight these scumbags. It's not interesting. It is easier to make ALL Muslims guilty, but you see this is a very dangerous thing, because you can get the same return.

        If you do not differentiate between normal law-abiding Muslims and lawless Muslims, then you will go far with this attitude. Until the complete collapse of the Russian Federation.

        There are no hysterics among 95% of Muslims around the world. I see you have no idea at all about Muslims, even Russian ones.
        Broke the law? Get it in full. This is the opinion of normal Muslims and there are no hysterics here. You need to listen to the media less and communicate with people more. And the hysterics have one sponsor - the USA. I think the conclusion is clear.

        As for the REAL SHARIA, I think you and your colleagues will not mind if, say, in the territory of Tatarstan and Bashkiria they introduce their own laws based on the Sharia system. The so-called Caliphate will be established on the basis of the Hanafi Mahzab - a school of Islamic law, distinguished by special tolerance, mercy and humanity. I assure you that with such laws everyone will be like silk, because fair punishment will be 100% and inevitable.

        Only now the president and the company will fall in the crosshairs, because it is not profitable for them, and after that, who can blame all the troubles on? In the end, all this is impossible and this is sad.

        All that we are seeing here now is obvious movements towards the complete collapse of the country, no matter how sad it may sound. Allen Dulles nervously smokes on the sidelines. Gorbachev started, Borya continued, and Volodya will finish.

        About the Caucasus. These comrades have always been aliens. They cut each other for any reason. I don’t know what kind of Islam they have there. Allow the Wahhabis to approach you, and then be surprised that all that remains of Chechnya are five ruins.

        By the way, about Tatarstan and Bashkiria, Caucasians live there and they walk around there quietly without showing off. In neighboring Kazakhstan, many Caucasians live peaceful lives as law-abiding citizens.
        And Uzbekistan, in turn, organized a mass expulsion of the Slavs and other nations on “its territory” during the 90s (no one made a fuss about this), with Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan on bad terms. Uzbekistan has left all post-Soviet organizations and is clearly friends with the United States and China. The enemy is already at our gates, and we are squabbling among ourselves. Plays into the hands of the enemy, who did not come in peace.

        Meanwhile, Russians have a centuries-old tradition and characteristic feature - always blaming someone for their troubles and misfortunes. Keep up the good work, brothers, and there won't be much left until the end. No one will ask your opinion. Statement to the UN and hello to the independence of the republics from Moscow. No wars, negotiations, polls or other nonsense for you. No army, tanks, special forces, or nuclear weapons will help you.
        Don't forget Russia consists of Federations. And where the Russian lands are is still not clear.
        ================================================== =======
        These are the pancakes. Well, how do you like it? It's not nice, is it? If it’s not pleasant, think with your head and become truly Russian people. People who reconcile, unite, uplift and bring peace.

        Peace be with you brothers!

        P.S. The main source of all troubles at all times and among all peoples were rulers and their obedient lambs. It is beneficial for the Kremlin to hide corruption behind interethnic problems. Cheap and very cheerful.
  58. -2
    20 January 2013 11: 11
    Are Cossacks and RUSSIANS synonymous for you? This is a very big mistake. One has only to remember 1612 and 1917. The same thing: grab it. Only the Ural Cossacks really fought for the God of the Tsar and the Fatherland, so there was almost no one left of them. The rest were all afraid for their incomes. Remember the Cossack republics, which tried to separately resist both the whites and the reds. A Cossack is essentially an individual farmer; he does not care about the State if it cannot provide him with PROFIT.
    For one thing, I recommend remembering the Bashkir and Kalmyk Cossack regiments.
    By the way, I already met on the site that Kazakhs and Cossacks are one and the same. In the original, Kazakh is a Cossack, only the last letter with a dash

    I understand the Ussuri and Don, but where did the Moscow and St. Petersburg come from?
    1. +4
      20 January 2013 12: 19
      Quote: Vasya
      A Cossack is essentially an individual farmer; he does not care about the State if it cannot provide him with PROFIT.

      Yes? It’s just that the Cossacks are somehow united, but I somehow doubt about the rest of the population. And whoever guarded the borders of the Russian state for centuries, wasn’t it the Cossacks, it was they who, in your words, spat on the state.
      Only the Ural Cossacks really fought for the God of the Tsar and the Fatherland, so there was almost no one left of them. The rest were all afraid for their incomes
      really? And the rest just grabbed... especially in the Caucasus.
      At the beginning of the 15th century, the entire Cossack male population was considered to have served from 40 to 2775 years of age. The number of serving Cossacks was determined by the number of families, i.e. each family fielded one Cossack. Cossacks who were in permanent service (2500 people) received a salary; those who were in local service (XNUMX people) did not have one.
      Since 1802, in addition to military duties, linemen had to perform free duties: stationary and underwater, road and postal, as well as construction.
      , We are talking about the Terek Cossacks, don’t spread misinformation, Vasya....
  59. 0
    20 January 2013 11: 23
    After watching the film, I sincerely wish those who started and prolonged these wars to burn in hell!
  60. wax
    0
    20 January 2013 12: 36
    The creation of an ever-increasing number of paramilitary and other security forces, systemic (budgetary financed) and non-systemic (class, clan, security) will not lead to any good. It is not for nothing that after the revolution all these companies were disbanded.
  61. 0
    20 January 2013 12: 54
    Tersky
    Compare the borders of the Cossack troops and the territory of the Russian Empire in 1900. where are the Cossacks and where are the borders? LOSS is the incentive for ALL Cossacks (Kazakhs) and other nomads. Read the history of the Donetsk Republic and the Ural Cossack Army
    In Soviet times, there were Voluntary People's Squads, and there were Young Friends of the Police. Please, organize and join a free formation, but I don’t want to pay and arm these grabbers
  62. sergskak
    0
    20 January 2013 13: 41
    It is necessary to arm the Cossacks to the fullest extent! Go after these freaks with a whip? Go into any house of the Dags or Chechens, there are Kalash rifles hanging on the carpets. It’s time to put them in their place. We got greedy.

  63. Eric
    +1
    20 January 2013 14: 08
    Yes, this is all bullshit... Ask yourself a question: my neighbor drills into the wall from night to morning, he doesn’t know that this is not allowed. All attempts to reason with him are useless. He is deaf and dumb, and even autistic! What should I do with such a neighbor?

    Substitute national representatives here. minorities from our south, often such youth, ala bull, travel from there across the country!
    1. sergskak
      +1
      20 January 2013 14: 37
      Yes, punch your neighbor in the face and it won’t last long. But you need to train your young people to become bull black....e.
      1. Eric
        +1
        20 January 2013 15: 22
        And look at what they are doing with arbitrariness towards non-Russians. This is called ruining your life.
        1. sergskak
          +1
          20 January 2013 16: 58
          Yes, I saw it. And it’s regrettable. And you can’t go quietly and openly. But there is another option that has been tested more than once: turn everything into ruins again. It won’t be today tomorrow, you can’t get away from it. The cup of patience is not limitless. Remember how it used to be : temple pool, temple pool. And now everything is moving towards this. This is inevitable, only a matter of time in the near future.
          1. Eric
            +1
            20 January 2013 17: 32
            So let's wait, sooner or later the shackles will fall.
  64. survivor
    +1
    20 January 2013 14: 35
    in short, the process that we are witnessing now reminds me very much of the Time of Troubles and the time of fragmentation of Rus'. Each prince had his own army and decided for himself who and how to serve him. as a result, he headed for separation from the main state. The collapse of the USSR, by the way, is an aria from the same opera. First it was torn into republics, then into national districts, then into separate clans... all this has happened more than once!!! Well, no matter how we learn the hard science of not throwing a rake in front of us. The very fact that both the Caucasus in Russia and Russia in the Caucasus were finally taught to fragment in words, thoughts and deeds suggests that the plan for the fragmentation and collapse of Russia is working. only now we, as in 90, are the main driving force of this process (((
  65. +1
    20 January 2013 14: 56
    Stolypin - he began to destroy the Russian community. Stalin created it again in the form of collective farms with the attachment of MTS. Khrushchev began to destroy again.
    Well, individual farmers cannot live honestly in our climate. Either a collective or almost slavery turns out
  66. 0
    20 January 2013 15: 17
    There is no idea in this state.
    Religion - while the clergy and Islamists serve their mammon.
    But there is a PEOPLE and it is still united.
    I hope so.
  67. Eric
    +1
    20 January 2013 15: 38
    The state has an idea (let me remind you: you and I are the state, we delegate our powers to those whom many mistakenly call “the authorities”) - this is the unification of the core of the Russian state! And not within the framework of the Eurasian Union, I emphasize, but within the framework of one state without a national one. administrative boundaries! We are not complete nations, a priori we cannot be one, we are one state. And just as the inferiority of something has a detrimental effect on anything, so division within one historical state has a mental effect on us! Russia has something to offer the CIS, and does the CIS have something to offer Russia?
  68. sergskak
    +7
    20 January 2013 17: 29
    Just as they were bandits, they still are. Now look ABOVE at the photo of ordinary Cossacks. Do you feel the difference? You need to arm yourself as soon as possible! In my opinion, only the Russian people are being screwed by the authorities!
  69. +1
    20 January 2013 18: 40
    In no case do I want to belittle the historical Merits of the Cossacks to the Russian state!!!!! But the presence of weapons (even if not combat weapons yet) among public paramilitary organizations (with not entirely clear and legalized rights and responsibilities) is not entirely good in modern times. I'll try to explain my point. If there is a gun hanging on the wall, it should fire. There is a high probability that someone will provoke a massacre at the right time. It seems to me that weapons will not solve the problem. It's time to change our mentality from “hit on the left cheek, turn the right” to “a tooth for a tooth, an eye for an eye.” Look how among the Caucasian peoples the entire clan supports, honors and is proud of their own who have committed blood feud. What do we have?.... Let me give you an example from my city. A 20-year-old drunken freak killed a 40-year-old adult man and knocked his wife and daughter to death at a crossing. His parents (I won’t say that the parents are very cool) helped him out, paid him, cleared him up and sent him to Russia. And this healthy man has been walking and chewing snot for three years. I also understand that if he had dependent children, then no. Left alone, 40 years old, half my life has passed. Well, he can't get hold of this freak. But there are a lot of criminals left who made money from his grief. This is the doctor who issued a false certificate, and the investigator who closed the case, and the parents of this freak who paid. I think that the doctor and investigator are no less criminals than this minor. What prevents you from acting according to the “law of the mountains”? Mentality?
    1. +1
      20 January 2013 18: 47
      Quote: Vladimir 70
      I'll try to explain my point. If there is a gun hanging on the wall, it should fire. There is a high probability that someone will provoke a massacre at the right time. It seems to me that weapons will not solve the problem.

      Just don’t forget that in the Caucasus, in every house and on every wall there is a Kalash, or even something more serious, and if a conflict arises, should we fight back with slingshots?
      1. 0
        20 January 2013 19: 01
        Just don’t forget that in the Caucasus, in every house and on every wall there is a Kalash, or even something more serious, and if a conflict arises, should we fight back with slingshots?
        It’s one thing when weapons are allowed for personal use, it’s another thing when they belong to an organization. Any organization is led by someone. We need to start with a change of mentality.
        1. sergskak
          +2
          20 January 2013 19: 27
          Quote: Vladimir 70
          It’s one thing when weapons are allowed for personal use, it’s another thing when they belong to an organization.

          Are the Chechens some kind of special organization? Yes, every schoolchild among them walks around with a gun. I don’t know, just a little more patience and they’ll just start knocking them down. And this will be right both in mind and in conscience. My hands have been itching for a long time. It’s time to remember my youth. Extinguish ...kov in all Russian cities. They became insolent at the end.
      2. Lakkuchu
        -1
        20 January 2013 19: 44
        Quote: Garrin
        Just don’t forget that in the Caucasus, in every house and on every wall there is a Kalash, or even something more serious, and if a conflict arises, should we fight back with slingshots?

        Myth. If there is something hanging on the walls, it is usually grandfather’s or gifted daggers, and even then not everyone has them. About "Kalash" in every house there is a laugh.
        1. +2
          20 January 2013 20: 01
          Quote: Lakkuchu

          Myth. If there is something hanging on the walls, it is usually grandfather’s or gifted daggers, and even then not everyone has them. About "Kalash" in every house there is a laugh.

          Well, you understand that “on the wall” is figurative. And the fact that it’s buried in the attic or cellar is “don’t go to grandma.”
          1. Lakkuchu
            0
            20 January 2013 20: 18
            Quote: Garrin
            Well, you understand that “on the wall” is figurative. And the fact that it’s buried in the attic or cellar is “don’t go to grandma.”

            I understand that this is figurative, but you are also mistaken about the attic or basement. I don’t understand what kind of manner people have to generalize. Here I am a Dagestani, I don’t have a Kalash or a travmat, Saiga and other things. Friends don't either. I don’t even carry a knife with me, although I don’t live in the quietest region. Injuries mainly occur in the children of various bureaucrats, so they like to show off about it. And if you read the comments, we are all armed, this is nonsense!
            1. 0
              20 January 2013 20: 29
              Injuries mainly occur in the children of various bureaucrats, so they like to show off about it. And if you read the comments, we are all armed, this is nonsense!
              We Slavs have the same thing. In Ukraine, our son Yushcheko (when he was president) shot at prosecutors with impunity! You need to start with yourself, otherwise it’s a fight against “windmills.”
            2. +1
              20 January 2013 20: 40
              Quote: Lakkuchu
              I don’t understand what kind of manner people have to generalize. Here I am a Dagestani, I don’t have a Kalash or a travmat, Saiga and other things. Friends don't either. I don’t even carry a knife with me, although I don’t live in the quietest region.

              I am glad for you and your friends that you are normal law-abiding citizens. I won’t even continue the argument, you know better on the spot. It’s just that in Moscow, everything seems exactly the opposite.
  70. 0
    20 January 2013 19: 20
    Quote: RDS12
    Sorry, but the entire territory of Siberia never belonged to any Cossacks.
    These are the lands of northern Turkic-speaking nomadic peoples. “Sbr” - sweeps or sweeps, in our opinion it will be. This is the Siberian Khanate. The Cossacks are guests there.

    Smiled. laughing
    Enough of the poor student skipping school, smoking a history textbook for the 8th grade with his friends along the way.
    Short:
    Thanks to the Cossacks, Russia has Siberia. And most of the cities of Siberia were founded by the Cossacks in the XNUMXth century. On the territory of Siberia there are Siberian, Yenisei, Transbaikal Cossack troops. They are not as numerous and compact as the Don and Kuban, but their roots are all from the Don, Kuban and Yaik.
  71. 0
    20 January 2013 20: 16
    Cossack troops can be powerful tools to counter Western private armies.
  72. +1
    20 January 2013 21: 19
    Quote: Vladimir 70
    In no case do I want to belittle the historical Merits of the Cossacks to the Russian state!!!!! But the presence of weapons (even if not combat weapons yet) among public paramilitary organizations (with not entirely clear and legalized rights and responsibilities) is not entirely good in modern times. I'll try to explain my point. If there is a gun hanging on the wall, it should fire. There is a high probability that someone will provoke a massacre at the right time. It seems to me that weapons will not solve the problem. It's time to change our mentality from “hit on the left cheek, turn the right” to “a tooth for a tooth, an eye for an eye.”

    Dear, at least Googled the Internet on the topic of the Cossacks, read and watched something.
    In Russia, everything related to the Cossacks is regulated by the Federal Law, Decrees of the President of the Russian Federation, Decrees of the Government of the Russian Federation and regional laws.
    What stops someone from provoking a massacre even without the Cossacks? In Chechnya, EBN and BAB succeeded with a bang. And if in the 90s in Chechnya the Terek Cossacks had weapons, how many lives of the Russian population would this have saved? You contradict yourself in your post, at the beginning you shout “don’t give the Cossacks weapons, they will start shooting radishes at everything that moves” and then write “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.” How will you answer? Combat Sambo techniques against AK-74? The spirits will spoil.
    The overwhelming majority of Cossacks have their own personal arsenal in the form of hunting, traumatic and gas weapons. The law on weapons allows Russian citizens to have them.
    Have you heard from Russia that somewhere the Cossacks carried out a massacre using Saiga?
    It's time to think soberly, and not with cinematic cliches from the Soviet film "Quiet Don" by S. Gerasimov.
    Mentality is not panties that you can change if you ruin them in fear. The mentality of peoples and nations has been formed over centuries.
  73. 0
    22 January 2013 10: 00
    Here is just the latest message on the topic of what will happen and whether Russian Cossack squads are needed to contain the “Caucasian lawlessness” and other evil spirits:
    Blagovest-Info reports:


    Islamic patrol began to establish “Sharia order” in London

    21.01.2013

    London, January 21. The vigilantes of the secret “Islamic Patrol” began to restore Sharia law on the streets of London, Sedmitsa reports with reference to Dailymail.

    The police have already begun to investigate cases of so-called attacks. Sharia vigilantes. Young people of Asian appearance, dressed in robes with hoods, approach passers-by whose behavior they consider inappropriate, and accuse them of non-compliance with Sharia norms, since they are allegedly on Islamic soil.

    Posing as an “Islamic patrol,” the “vigilantes” force men to throw away alcohol and women to cover their heads, calling them animals, humiliating them in every possible way and filming what is happening on video.

    After this, they proudly post evidence of their exploits on the Yotube channel, calling on everyone to obey Sharia law and behave accordingly. One of the latest videos posted online, entitled “The Truth About Saturday Night,” has received more than 42000 views.

    According to the victims, the young people say that they do not care at all that someone does not like their activities, since they “follow the orders of Islam, fight evil and are not obliged to respect those who do not obey the will of Allah.”

    According to Scotland Yard, only people of the white race are attacked.
    www.blagovest-info.ru/index.php?ss=2&s=3&id=50839 ¶
    1. 0
      22 January 2013 17: 25
      Is the requirement not to drink alcohol in public places and to behave with dignity for women - is this humiliation? I think in this matter the Cossacks will be on the side of the “Islamic patrol”