I choose freedom and Holy Russia!

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I am a native Europeans, I was born in Austria, and even 15 years ago I loved to roam the Alpine meadows and narrow streets of ancient cities. However, I fled to Russia from the modern Sodom - otherwise the European Union cannot be called! I know that it usually happens, unfortunately, on the contrary - from Russia people go to the West, tempted by the local blessings, the wealth of the earth, rejecting the faith of their ancestors and the Motherland. I had to go against the flow of this wide stream, leading, in fact, to ruin and destruction. However, I am not alone - I have the same friends from Germany, who also fled to Russia. I did it quite consciously, clearly reflecting on my life. And in the ten years of my stay in Holy Russia I don’t regret it, but on the contrary - every day I’m more convinced of the correctness of my choice. Although during this time I had to suffer a lot of sorrows and trials, I know well the shortcomings of the Russian people. But all of them, ultimately, helped me to free my soul from sins, so I thank God for everything. And for no reason would I have returned to the European Union, from Sodom you can only run without looking back! The spirit there is unbearably heavy.



After my baptism in Holy Orthodoxy and the first pilgrim trip to the shrines of Russia, I simply did not find a place for myself in this western Sodom, I was acutely aware of the emptiness and deadliness of both Western souls and all of the European contaminated land. And the grace, liveliness in the souls of simple, sincerely religious Russian people, their genuine love, struck me. Alive Russia Holy in the souls of these people! I used to love traveling very much, traveled half the world. But only here, in Holy Russia, the soul acquired its homeland. Although people live in Russia are poorer in secular measures, but then they are richer in spirit! The land of Holy Russia is sanctified by the prayers of many righteous men who work in countless monasteries and in the world; the prayers of ordinary people, sinners, but sincerely repenting and loving God, their neighbor and their homeland. The gracious bell-ringing sanctifies the air, the Cross Stations, the prayerful and physical feat of the common people, his lively sermon, sanctifies the Russian land, and, I am sure, will beg God's mercy for the long-suffering Russia!

Western demos (but) short stories promise “freedom and equality” for everyone, but in fact, this is a lie and a lie. In practice, it looks like this: “cancerous tumors” of society: freedom, permissiveness and equality are obtained by society: all kinds of perverts, destructive sects, or even Satanists ... Against the so-called “multiculturalism” - in fact nobody mixes and destroys the roots of European nations he dares not say a word for fear of persecution, loss of job, fines and even imprisonment. The Holocaust is considered an axiom, and the scales that deny it will lose at least their work. The same thing is happening more and more often with those who dare to “embarrass” someone by wearing the underwear Cross, to put icons on the workplace ...

So much for freedom! I no longer wanted to live in a system where absolutely all Christian values ​​are trampled upon, especially chastity, in Europe, in which sodomites are combined with same-sex "marriages" and the cities are defiled by "parades" of perverts. Where, according to the law, they kill old and sick people and call it cynically euthanasia (in Greek: “good” death, “good” murder!), Where they massively take children away from prosperous families and destroy them “thanks” to juvenile terror. In a country whose troops do not protect the people, but on the contrary, they participate in aggression against peaceful peoples and kill them. Where drugs are legalized, where biometric passports and electronic cards are required ... There is only one “freedom” - from God and His Commandments, equality in degradation. And as a result - complete slavery to sin. Russia, despite all its shortcomings, is now the group of the freest countries in the world. Some people argue that the West has no ideology. But they are fundamentally wrong. The ideology of Satanism reigns confidently there! Proof of this is the fact that the way of life in the West is completely opposite to the Christian one. The society approves and promotes almost all the vices and mortal sins, the commandments of God are actually abolished by the ruling oligarchy, which has put its terrible standards there. Western life has become a kind of parody of Christianity. This is the essence of Satanism, because the devil is always trying to parody God.

The fruits of this ideology are obvious - at first they corrupted the morals and manners of the people, deprived them of their Christian roots, and subsequently the people even degenerated relatively quickly. From the time of the fall away from the universal Orthodoxy, from the time of the great schism in 1054, the western “church” was moving farther and farther from the Truth. Almost a death blow suffered a Western "church" Lutheran schism. Almost half of the population of Germany was destroyed during the Thirty Years War, which unleashed against the backdrop of a split. Then Lutheranism began to break up into small sects, which continues to this day. They have almost nothing in common with Christianity, they have deprived believers of virtually all church sacraments, bless same-sex "marriages", elevated to the rank of "pastors and bishops" - women. The abomination of desolation ... I myself was honored to participate in some of the many days of the Cross, and God made me feel the great power and grace of the congregational prayer, manifested numerous miracles to strengthen my faith.

And in the West - alas ... instead of prayer - meditation, instead of the Cross Processions - parades of perverts defile souls, air and earth. Therefore, the spiritual atmosphere there is unbearable, even breathing this polluted air seems to be hard. I am very sorry for Western people, and I pray that God will enlighten them and also bring them out, I want them to be saved! There are, for example, many good and decent Germans, but from early childhood they were hammered into the “values” of liberalism, deprived of their feelings of shame through sex questions in schools (therefore, in the West, schizophrenia develops like an evil epidemic). And, most importantly, they did not teach them the Christian faith, morality and morals, but - philosophy, eastern religion and occultism. And they are trying to “make happy” with all this dirt, and we, in part, have already managed a lot. Western people are unhappy. They have forgotten how to think independently. They behave like a flock of obedient and stupid sheep, which foolishly believes all the lies, inspired by them through completely free Western media. The meaning of the lives of these herds is mainly to meet the low animal instincts and needs. But the saddest thing is that very rarely one of them is looking for a way out of this impasse and begins to seek the Truth. But a sincere search for Truth will certainly lead to God, to the Orthodox faith, as happened with one of the ROCOR lamps - hieromonk Seraphim Rose, an American who studied philosophy and Eastern religions, but his soul longed for truth, and he found it by going to Orthodox church. He did a great job on the field of the spread and strengthening of the Orthodox Church in the USA.

Just now. It is probably too late to repeat his exploits. Now, it is no longer possible to remain in the United States, corruption has gone too far, since the beginning of 2013, according to the law, the entire population began to be chipized, concentration camps and mass coffins for disobedient people are ready. Who has the mind, let it be understood! And where should they run from this system? Only Holy Russia remained, the last holding force. And so, quite recently, God brought out from there two more educated and believing Americans, who had not yet forgotten how to independently think and evaluate what was happening on their own. Despite the fact that the Western media are making every effort to ensure that such people are not actually there. They inspire people with a distorted picture of Russia, present it as a kind of wild country in which nonhumans live, so that in the event of aggression, the Americans, like Europeans, would not feel sorry for killing them! The Western world has become a threat for both Holy Russia and for me personally. Russia became my homeland and accepted me with love as my own daughter, and its enemies are my enemies. Russian people, though they sin, but they are capable of repentance. I believe, when the thunder clap, then, as they say, the Russian peasant will cross himself. And the West will not only not cross himself, but if God permits disasters and cataclysms, he will become even more moribund and will blaspheme God even more, as described in the Apocalypse of St. John the Divine. Evidence of the behavior of Americans during the cataclysms of the last few years. People began to rob, rape, kill, instead of repenting and praying ... And again God allowed the Americans, as I think, as a call to repentance, a terrible disaster - Hurricane Sandy, which swept along the way many coastal cities of the eastern coast USA. But whether prudent?

There, the abomination of desolation ... I myself was honored to participate in some multi-day God’s Cross in Ukraine and Russia, and God made me feel the great power and grace of the congregational prayer, manifested numerous miracles to strengthen the faith. And in the West - alas ... instead of prayer - occult meditation, instead of the Cross Processions - parades of perverts defile souls, air and earth. Therefore, the spiritual atmosphere there is unbearable, even breathing this polluted air seems to be hard. I am very sorry for Western people, and I pray that God will enlighten them and also bring them out, I want them to be saved! There are, for example, many good and decent Austrians, but from early childhood they were hammered by the “values” of liberalism, deprived of their feelings of shame through “sex-inquiry” in schools (therefore, in the West, schizophrenia develops like an evil epidemic). And, most importantly, they were not taught them the Christian faith, morality, and good manners, but they taught the vile philosophy of Eastern religions and occultism. True, in the Alpine villages there are still islands of cleanliness and high morality, but they are fewer and less ... And they are trying to “make happy” with this mud and, in part, have already succeeded a lot.
But Western rulers are still far from defeating us. In its spiritual state, despite all the attacks from the outside and inside, the Russian Orthodox Church, of which our canonical UOC MP is a part, is practically the only keeper of the purity of Orthodox dogma. Therefore, the enemies of Russia and Orthodoxy are making every effort to weaken and destroy it - through the promotion of schism, ecumenism, renovationism. And you can not a bit doubt that the ROC splits into “autocephalous” parts, the haters of Christianity are quickly promoted in these parts their anti-Orthodox abominations. Not without reason, all the pro-autocratic forces in the UOC-MP are at the same time liberals, ardent ecumenists and supporters of “tolerance” towards perverts.

It is always important to remember what the separation of the churches leads to. A very instructive example of the western "church" I have already given above. But even nowadays we see that going to the autocephaly, even canonical, has fatal consequences. The church is weakened, immunity against the spirit of the world is reduced, it becomes infected with the same spirit and it easily retreats from ancient traditions and common creed. The Hellasian, Bulgarian and Romanian Churches serve us as a sad example. They did not hold out and switched to a new style. They are no longer proof of even the miracle of the descent of the Holy Fire, which God always reveals to us in the Old Style.

On the other hand, there are, unfortunately, those who are trying to split the Church under the guise of a “struggle” against ecumenism and liberalism. These “conservatives” reach the extreme hula for the ROC and His Holiness Patriarch Kirill, in fact identifying with the blasphemers from the “punk group” of PR. This is also the path to death.

We must fight for our treasury - the ROC, but not at all by remembering our Most Holy Patriarch Kirill or other unreasonable actions, for this is the first step in a split. And on the contrary, we must earnestly pray for the unity of the church and for the enlightenment of our archpastors and pastors, but at the same time not be silent and act.

I dare to say so boldly: in our apocalyptic time, Holy Russia is the only restraining force that opposes evil. And evil is the New World Order with all its destructive phenomena. He is trying to force us to force the West on behalf of the United States and the European Union. All the rest of the resisting forces, especially the Arab world, the West has already enslaved itself, artificially unleashing a series of revolutions called the Arab Spring, and directly invading NATO forces. The terrible events and atrocities of NATO in Libya are still relatively fresh in our memory, only Syria and Iran remained, but it is expected that these countries will soon be under the hood of NATO ...

The next and last one in the “line-up” of the destruction of the “recalcitrant” New World Order is Russia, more precisely, the whole of Holy Russia, including Ukraine and Belarus. Our enemies are well aware that Russia is invincible, as long as the Orthodox Church is strong in it, as long as unity exists in it. At the state and economic level, unfortunately, they have already managed to divide Russia through the collapse of the USSR. It was a force in front of which the West trembled, therefore they considered it their main task to crush it and then terrorize individual small states against each other. Such Russia became, as they think, safe.

Special artificial hatred is being kindled between parts of the Russian people. The neo-fascism of people who have forgotten their Russian roots is developing. These are the same destructive forces that during the Second World War collaborated with fascist Germany and killed their own people - Bandera. But although both in Russia and in Ukraine, the process of degradation of the people is progressing, but, nevertheless, to a much lesser extent than in Europe and the USA. This disastrous process can be stopped only by the return of all the people to the Orthodox faith and to the Orthodox way of life. The Orthodox Church, the Orthodox people - is the main core and stronghold of resistance to political and ideological aggression of the West against Russia.

That is why Western rulers want to split the canonical Russian Orthodox Church, which still spiritually unites the triune Russia.
Our main task now is to use all our strength to prevent a split, even if he wears the guise of "canonicity."

We can not forget - in unity, our strength! And God warns us through Holy Scripture, which states that any kingdom divided into itself will not stand and collapse. And, God forbid, the Russian Church falls, then nothing is holding back the coming of the Antichrist. No wonder Zbigniew Brzezinski declared the number one enemy - the Orthodox Church! And we should not forget about the words of the saints and the elders: there is only the Third Rome, the fourth will not be anymore.

Holy Russia, keep the Orthodox faith, in it is your statement!
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  1. fenix57
    +45
    19 January 2013 07: 35
    TRIUNITY: (RUSSIA, UKRAINE, BELARUS) - NECESSITY.
    1. +33
      19 January 2013 08: 14
      On the other hand, there are, unfortunately, those who are trying to split the Church under the guise of a “struggle” against ecumenism and liberalism. These “conservatives” reach the extreme hula for the ROC and His Holiness Patriarch Kirill, in fact identifying with the blasphemers from the “punk group” of PR. This is also the path to death.

      When you talk about this to people, they don’t just don’t want to hear, but instead, they do everything to listen to and agree to them. In pursuit of one goal, to destroy the pillar of Vera on which Russia has stood, stood and will stand. There are those who talk about the advantages of the Western model and the saddest thing is that Ukraine wants to go there. I sincerely hope that when the time comes the Ukrainian people will say no to this madman. Tolerance, democracy, libnralism and the like contradict Russian thinking and lifestyle, whoever What politicians didn’t say there. There are only a lot more sensible people.
      1. +20
        19 January 2013 09: 20
        Today is a holiday, one of the 12 Great Greats ... And on this day you understand most of all that Russia (alas, Russia and Russia are somewhat different concepts to me, Siberian) really remains the only country where the original, fundamental principles of life have been preserved .. .We are too large territorially to decompose like other countries ... We are too different to decompose like other nations, we are too patriotic to decompose like others ...
      2. bask
        +39
        19 January 2013 10: 14
        BAPTISM IS LORD !!!! ALL FROM HOLIDAY. May GOD help us !!!!!
        1. Cavas
          +4
          19 January 2013 10: 21
          bask,
          THX!
          Have you already dived?
          1. bask
            +3
            19 January 2013 11: 40
            Quote: Cavas

            bask
            THX!
            Have you already dived?

            Happy Seryoga ... With pleasure. But you can’t .. But already bathed !!!
            1. Cavas
              +8
              19 January 2013 11: 42
              Quote: bask
              Happy Seryoga ... With pleasure. But you can’t .. But already bathed !!!

              The same for you! drinks
              Yesterday I had a son and a girl swimming, a happy elephant arrived!
              1. S_mirnov
                +2
                19 January 2013 13: 20
                Tempering your body is extremely beneficial. And it is not necessary for this to wait for the priest and baptism once a year.
                In general, the rite is quite funny, Christ was not baptized in Russia, i.e. in the ice, the ice holes were not chopped, but were dipped in quite warm water.
                1. Igor Belov
                  +4
                  19 January 2013 13: 30
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  Tempering your body is extremely beneficial.

                  http://www.razlib.ru/religiovedenie/prazdniki_pravoslavnoi_cerkvi/p2.php
                  1. S_mirnov
                    +1
                    19 January 2013 14: 34
                    Totally agree.
                  2. S_mirnov
                    +6
                    19 January 2013 14: 55
                    In my opinion, the methods (like the article itself) are quite primitive. We presume that the task of the church is the transfer of spiritual values ​​through generations of Russian people (that which unites our people). Accordingly, those who want to destroy the Russian people as a people-must destroy the church.
                    So, move by move: - we plant at the head of the Russian Orthodox Church a burnt shopkeeper with a dark past (it’s difficult to do, but with the power of the shopkeeper you can).
                    - Torgash - he wants it or doesn’t want it, but he does a lot of actions compromising the Russian Orthodox Church.
                    - We launch a company in Massmedia to cover all the negative facts of the Russian Orthodox Church. They come up with something, but against the general background of the corrupt leadership of the Russian Orthodox Church, it looks believable.
                    - The Russian people are divided into two camps. The first - outraged by the venality of priests, against the Russian Orthodox Church (in its modern form). The second - those who feel threatened by the preservation of the traditions of the Russian people, stand up for the ROC (the traditional church in the best way).
                    WE RECEIVE THE RESULT: The Russian people are divided into two warring camps, and the Russian Orthodox Church is rotting from the inside and does not unite the People.
                    1. +6
                      19 January 2013 18: 36
                      S_mirnov,

                      WE RECEIVE THE RESULT: The Russian people are divided into two warring camps, and the Russian Orthodox Church is rotting from the inside and does not unite the People.


                      Very accurate comment! Look at this site and see the same split and intolerance.
                      1. FATEMOGAN
                        +13
                        19 January 2013 22: 41
                        I don’t agree with you where you see the split, on the one hand the overwhelming majority of Russians stand on the side of the centuries-old traditions of our ancestors, on the other hand, an insignificant percentage of overt provocateurs who saw one drunk clergyman on a Mercedes and immediately sweep them all under one comb - all corrupt merchants ! it’s just from leberoid tactics, I saw one drunk Russian and immediately recorded the whole nation in drunks, even if a person is an unbeliever, please, everyone’s business, only if he is normal, adequate, he will not try with a manic desire to pour mud, what will be different it is dear and close to people, if he is not a provocateur of course, well, or a follower of these Riotnyh disadvantages who are just trying to sow hostility in the country, and the church is only one of their directions where they are trying to drive a wedge of discord.
                      2. YuDDP
                        +3
                        21 January 2013 00: 25
                        I remembered a famous historical joke. Plevako's lawyer defended in court some stealing priest (as in the text). And he argued that he would be acquitted and his speech would be no more than 1 minute. When the lawyer was given the floor, he turned to the jury with the phrase: “For more than 20 years, my client has forgiven you your sins. Release them and you at least once, Russian People ”, Pop was acquitted.
                    2. +9
                      19 January 2013 21: 01
                      The word POP was invented by the Old Believers and it means the abbreviation: Traitor of the Customs of the Ancestors.
                      1. +9
                        20 January 2013 06: 10
                        By the way, for minusculers, Orthodox priests (and not priests) introduced a lot of ancient Russian customs and rituals to Christianity in Orthodoxy. For what they honor and praise.
                      2. +2
                        20 January 2013 10: 10
                        I saw in the internet another way to decipher: The ashes of the Fathers the Betrayer.
                        But the essence is the same ...
                      3. YuDDP
                        0
                        21 January 2013 00: 31
                        Not sure, but such acronyms and abbreviations were popular after the revolution and later. What is not remembered of other similar contractions from the depths of centuries. And the Bolshevik old-timers, commanders, convicts and Komsomol members-in the light.
                      4. +1
                        21 January 2013 16: 44
                        and Pushkin apparently didn’t know
                      5. Aleksandr2
                        0
                        7 November 2013 10: 16
                        the word pop translated from Greek father
                    3. +1
                      20 January 2013 14: 56
                      Quote: S_mirnov
                      WE RECEIVE THE RESULT: The Russian people are divided into two warring camps, and the Russian Orthodox Church is rotting from the inside and does not unite the People.


                      If we analyze soundly and unashamedly everything that has happened with the ROC in recent years, then this is precisely the conclusion that comes by itself. In this situation, intelligent people become atheists, and the foolish gnaw at each other's throats, some for religion, others against ...
                      1. Misantrop
                        +1
                        20 January 2013 15: 13
                        Quote: vadimN
                        If we analyze soundly and unashamedly everything that has happened with the Russian Orthodox Church in recent years, then such a conclusion comes by itself. In this situation, intelligent people become atheists.
                        Strange conclusion. And what do the commandments and the unscrupulous official of the diocese have in common? It is not only necessary to put an equal sign between the priest and the church. Commercialization? So now everything is permeated with this spirit. REGISTRY OFFICE - also commercial structure, what now, because of this and to cancel a family?
                2. +7
                  19 January 2013 17: 37
                  S_mirnov,
                  When the baptism took place, the climate on the planet was different. According to the latest data, Christ was baptized in the region of Constantinople. Article +++. Everything was correctly illuminated by a citizen. Not quite yet, the brains were washed in the geyrop and not everyone. But still, one should not get too hung up on religion; nevertheless, the Russian spirit is more valuable here. Russia is the last outpost against obscurantism of Western civilization.
                  1. Aleksandr2
                    0
                    7 November 2013 10: 18
                    faith is more important
                3. 0
                  20 January 2013 10: 07
                  In general, Christ was baptized at 30. And what date ... is unknown.
                  I looked at the icons - summer. Trees and grass are green.
                  1. +3
                    20 January 2013 14: 34
                    you must give yes to submit the exact date of baptism, will you not believe in Christ?)))) or do you think that the ice holes on the Jordan River should have been on the icons?))))
                  2. YuDDP
                    +1
                    21 January 2013 00: 33
                    Today in Israel +22 and the trees and grass are green.
        2. +5
          19 January 2013 19: 32
          And God bless you on a holiday
      3. scrack
        +6
        19 January 2013 10: 15
        Democracy has long turned into Democracy. You look at the orders in the West, and you will think - it’s like democracy, but in fact demons own the souls of people
        1. +1
          19 January 2013 17: 15
          In my opinion, she was so originally, even from Ancient Greece.
      4. Alx1miK
        +3
        19 January 2013 10: 47
        Western world in perspective "There is an island of bad luck in the ocean. All covered with greenery (bucks), absolutely all."
    2. +7
      19 January 2013 08: 17
      As one state - the Russian Empire
      1. +13
        19 January 2013 08: 39
        Quote: Byordovvv1
        As one state - the Russian Empire

        It has always been an Empire. Until the liberals came in 91. Before that, the names changed, but the essence remained the same.
        1. S_mirnov
          +3
          19 January 2013 14: 52
          "She always was the Empire" Lying, the Empire lives on the oppression of the colonies (England). There were no colonies in the USSR, on the contrary, the outlying republics developed at the expense of the center! Even in Afghanistan, after the USSR, there were built schools and hospitals.
          1. +3
            20 January 2013 05: 03
            Quote: S_mirnov
            , Empire lives off the oppression of the colonies (England).

            No, I’m not lying, in understanding the life of the Saxons this is precisely the robbery of others, but in the understanding of the Russians, the empire is a community, without robberies.
      2. bask
        +14
        19 January 2013 09: 30
        Quote: Byordovvv1
        And we must not forget about the words of the saints and elders: there is only the Third Rome, there will be no fourth.

        IT IS NECESSARY TO READ AND STUDY THE INSTRUCTIONS OF THE HOLY OLD PARTIES. LAND OF RUSSIAN. GREAT PRAYERS FOR THE RUSSIAN EARTH .. THEY SAID AND PREDICTED ALL !! ,, dear, will be TURNED .... AND RUSSIA WILL STAY FOREVER !!!!!
        1. in reserve
          +9
          19 January 2013 11: 36
          Author bold plus +
          Wailed in one go.
        2. S_mirnov
          -3
          19 January 2013 13: 39
          http://demotivation.me/jgx57fblaatupic.html
          The task of the church is to preserve the moral values ​​of the Russian people from the momentary influence of rulers and traders. (It was for this purpose that the churches were separated from the state) At the moment, the church was so saturated with merchandise itself that before teaching people what to believe in it, it must be cleansed itself!
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd3PdqatF-0
          And in general, the admission of priests to kindergartens is now a crime, what good can burnt traders of our children teach?
          I am not against believing in God, to whom we are lacking, believe in health, I am against the priestly brotherhood warming our hands on the religious feelings of Russian People.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSg9hjy5tyM
          1. GG2012
            -9
            19 January 2013 16: 28
            Quote: S_mirnov
            I am against the priestly brotherhood of a warming hand on the religious feelings of Russian People.

            In addition to your comment about the priestly-commercial fraternity, I want to draw attention to another fact traction Churchmen to luxury:
            in the top picture, under the monk, a horse, and on the horse zbroi ... and zbrui is not simple, but very expensive ... such a zbrui, in those days, could be worth several carts with game, furs and food. At the time, this is the monthly grocery budget of a small town!
            And also, look at the horse. The horse is not peasant, but from the royal stables. Thoroughbred!
            http://www.sati.archaeology.nsc.ru/encyc_p/term.html?act=list&term=572
            http://thehorses.ru/text/text_171.htm
            http://www.bibliotekar.ru/skify/6.htm
            http://annales.info/evrope/behaym/behaym07.htm

            And now, priests prefer thoroughbred "Mercedes"!
            http://fastiv.org.ua/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=127
            1. gribnik777
              +16
              19 January 2013 17: 10
              The patriarch is guarded by the FSO, respectively, a car from the GON.
              For some reason, all the "ulcers" about this, looking at the car and security, never mention.
              Too many people the Patriarch of All Russia is a darling target.
              1. radar75
                -3
                19 January 2013 17: 27
                Well, and the watch on your hand for tens of thousands of dollars?
                1. Svobodny
                  +5
                  19 January 2013 18: 08
                  Quote: radar75
                  watch
                  With a clock - the record is not new! Traveled. Change
                  1. -4
                    20 January 2013 15: 02
                    Quote: Svobodny
                    With a clock - the record is not new! Traveled. Change


                    Not new, but real. And not disproved by anyone, including and the patriarch himself. as well as the ROC’s tobacco and vodka business in the 90s, as well as the current business under the foundation of the ROC ...
                    1. YuDDP
                      0
                      21 January 2013 00: 45
                      The tobacco and vodka business is a source of money for any state. Remember the customs officers at the borders: they are only interested in cigarettes and vodka.
                      Consider that the state thus gave the Russian Orthodox Church money for restoration.
                    2. Aleksandr2
                      0
                      7 November 2013 10: 26
                      Go west
                2. +6
                  19 January 2013 22: 40
                  Quote: radar75
                  Well, and the watch on your hand for tens of thousands of dollars?

                  What's next?
                  1. +8
                    19 January 2013 22: 48
                    Quote: Nick
                    What's next?

                    All request , Bobby was blown away ..., he wants the same, but he doesn’t have enough money to earn .. fool ..
                3. Oleg Rosskiyy
                  +1
                  20 January 2013 23: 28
                  Quote: radar75
                  Well, and the watch on your hand for tens of thousands of dollars?

                  And how much did you pay for the sex change operation, and how is it itself. And?
                4. YuDDP
                  0
                  21 January 2013 00: 41
                  So what? He is not a skimon, but a white priest.
              2. davoks
                -3
                19 January 2013 17: 34
                patriarch of the FSO is not guarded .. no need to write
                1. gribnik777
                  +5
                  19 January 2013 17: 50
                  Quote: davoks
                  patriarch of the FSO is not protected


                  Do not know - do not write, especially not censored! Rude is not necessary.

                  The fact of the state guard having the patriarch was confirmed to Gazeta.Ru by the head of the press service of the patriarch, Archpriest Vladimir Vigilyansky. “This decision was made by President Yeltsin,” he explained to Gazeta.ru.

                  At the end of last year (2010) with a request on what basis the patriarch protects the FSO, public activists turned to state bodies. They received an answer, but without any details.
                  1. davoks
                    0
                    19 January 2013 17: 52
                    Oh cool. and in fact, on what basis is it guarded? according to the FSO law, it is not required to protect it. what answer did they get there?
                    1. gribnik777
                      +7
                      19 January 2013 18: 21
                      Federal Law of 27.05.1996 N 57-FZ
                      About state protection


                      Article 9. The provision of state protection to members of the Council of the Federation of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation, deputies of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation, federal civil servants and to other persons

                      In order to ensure state security by decision of the President of the Russian Federation State protection may be provided to members of the Council of the Federation of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation, deputies of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation, federal civil servants and to other persons.


                      Article 10. The procedure for providing state protection

                      The procedure for providing state protection to the persons specified in Articles 8 and 9 of this Federal Law, determined by the President of the Russian Federation.
                  2. +19
                    19 January 2013 18: 16
                    Threats come from the idiots, so they have to be protected. Some Russian Vera stands across the throat.
                    1. davoks
                      -2
                      19 January 2013 18: 19
                      and why nobody guards me for free? I want it too. to protect me at public expense winked
                      1. gribnik777
                        +9
                        19 January 2013 18: 37
                        Quote: davoks
                        and why nobody guards me for free?


                        FREEBIE
                        to choose from:
                        1. "Kaschenka"
                        2. "Black Dolphin"

                        etc.
                    2. Nicotine 7
                      -5
                      19 January 2013 18: 40
                      Sorry! Greek, not Russian! Let’s be honest!
                      1. Nicotine 7
                        -2
                        19 January 2013 19: 32
                        You can put as many minuses as you like, but the Orthodox Christian Religion will not become Russian from this anyway. And the official name is Greek-Catholic Church, one of the branches of Judaism. Where did you find Russian here?
                      2. Svobodny
                        +7
                        19 January 2013 20: 16
                        Quote: Nicotine 7
                        Where is Russian what they found here?

                        Emigration burns))). You really don’t understand ??? Read: Russian Orthodox Church laughing
                      3. Nicotine 7
                        -5
                        19 January 2013 21: 49
                        The Russian Orthodox Church appeared on the orders of I.V. Stalin in 1943 by R.Kh. You have the Internet in your face, read it!
                      4. +3
                        19 January 2013 23: 04
                        Quote: Nicotine 7
                        The Russian Orthodox Church appeared on the orders of I.V. Stalin in 1943.

                        Are you serious?! fool Or are you kidding? lol
                      5. in reserve
                        +8
                        19 January 2013 23: 15

                        Nicotine 7
                        The Russian Orthodox Church appeared on the orders of I.V. Stalin in 1943 by R.Kh. You have the Internet in your face, read it!

                        The Russian Orthodox Church connects its origin with the Baptism of Russia, when the Kiev Metropolitanate of the Patriarchate of Constantinople was established as an institution recognized and supported by the Prince of Kiev. Autocephaly has been de facto since 1448, when the Moscow Local Council condemned the Union of Florence and placed Bishop Jonah at the Russian Metropolitanate of Ryazan without prior approval from Constantinople.
                        From 1448 to 1589, the Moscow Church was governed by virtually independent metropolitans of all Russia [14]. Starting from the reign of John III, a concept appeared in the Moscow state according to which, due to the political fall of Byzantium, Moscow became the only bastion of universal Orthodoxy, which received the dignity of the Third Rome. In a slightly modified form, this idea was formally enshrined in the Stacked Letter of 1589 on behalf of the Patriarch of Jeremiah II of Constantinople. In 1589-1593, the Moscow metropolitans received the dignity of the Patriarchs and the formal recognition of autocephaly from the Eastern patriarchs.
                      6. +1
                        19 January 2013 22: 54
                        Quote: Nicotine 7
                        The official name is Greek-Catholic Church, one of the branches of Judaism. Where is the Russian found here?

                        Uh ... ??? !!! fool no words!
                      7. F117
                        +7
                        19 January 2013 23: 15
                        The Greek Catholic Church ceased to be immediately after the collapse of the Byzantine Empire. In Russia, its own branch of Christianity arose, controlled by Constantinople. However, the most important difference between the ROC and others is that it took root in Russia only by absorbing its Vedic ("pagan") past. And if you look, then most of the "Christian" holidays are in fact Proto-Slavic (Maslenitsa, Ivan Kupala's Day, Kolyada, etc.)
                      8. 0
                        20 January 2013 07: 44
                        Quote: F117
                        The Greek Catholic Church ceased to be immediately after the collapse of the Byzantine Empire.

                        Yes ! slaves. We have a land with gistoria kanfuz.
                        Greek Catholics are still there, or in other Uniates. As a result, the desire to cross the hedgehog with snake in 1596. One of the most influential churches in the west of Ukraine with many parishes in the countries of eastern Europe.

                        He considers himself a natural counterbalance to "Muscovy", sits under the roof of the Pope while observing Orthodox traditions. Tobish cashes money in Rome and everything else is like Orthodoxy.
                      9. -1
                        20 January 2013 19: 57
                        Quote: F117
                        The river Catholic church ceased to be immediately after the collapse of the Byzantine empire. In Russia, its own offshoot of Christianity arose, controlled by Constantinople. However, the most important difference between the ROC and others is that it took root in Russia only by absorbing its Vedic ("pagan") past. And if you look, then most of the "Christian" holidays are in fact Proto-Slavic (Maslenitsa, Ivan Kupala's Day, Kolyada, etc.)

                        For some reason, church terms in the Russian Orthodox Church are the same as the Catholics, and not the same as the Greeks. the history of the adoption of Orthodox Christianity is a hoax.
                      10. 0
                        20 January 2013 19: 54
                        You know this by studying FALSE western history.
                      11. YuDDP
                        0
                        21 January 2013 00: 49
                        Fresh evidence: Jews again deceived everyone and Judaism is just an overgrown sect. And not very ancient.

                        Favorite Wikipedia gives the following information:
                        15 autocephalous Orthodox churches consisting in canonical communion with each other:
                        Constantinople
                        Alexandria
                        Antioch
                        Jerusalem
                        Russian
                        Georgian
                        Serbian
                        Romanian
                        Bulgarian
                        Cyprus
                        Hellas
                        Albanian
                        Polish
                        Orthodox Church of Czech lands and Slovakia
                        Orthodox Church in America
                      12. +5
                        19 January 2013 22: 52
                        Quote: Nicotine 7

                        Sorry! Greek, not Russian! Let’s be honest!

                        Let's honestly, not Greek, but Orthodox, RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH
                      13. +1
                        21 January 2013 00: 32
                        Nicotine 7,

                        And you happen to be there in Argentina, not the most correct pedophilo-Catholic church follower ????
                    3. +6
                      19 January 2013 22: 49
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Threats come from the idiots, so they have to be protected. Some Russian Vera stands across the throat.

                      Our faith is Orthodox, but you are right, through the destruction of faith, they are trying to disintegrate the Russian people. This is confirmed by some comments on this site. Moreover, the provocateurs work as a team, one makes a throw-in, others picks up, and some idiots, by their naivety, assent to them.
                      1. GG2012
                        -4
                        19 January 2013 23: 43
                        Quote: Nick
                        This is confirmed by some comments on this site. Moreover, the provocateurs work as a team, one makes a throw-in, others picks up, and some idiots, by their naivety, assent to them.

                        And so you, Troll of the Russian Orthodox Church, have a letter from the Chief Ravinat to call sober-minded visitors to this site ... idiots?
                        Have you yourself passed an intelligence test? or you ... as always a test ... two sticks ?!
                        And about the provocateurs, I agree with you! This article is a pure provocation! Instead of reviving their Slavic identity, we are being forced to revive the Jewish identity in the Russian wrapper (the cult of Judeo-Christianity)!

                        Will not pass! This is not the Middle Ages. Now you don’t hang noodles!
                        And the revival of the Judeo-Christian cult will turn out to be statistical postscript on paper! And this thing is familiar to the priests, it’s how our history was extinct with attributions and subtributes!
                        Fuck you! Will not work!
                      2. in reserve
                        +6
                        20 January 2013 00: 18

                        GG2012
                        And so you, Troll of the Russian Orthodox Church, have a letter from the Chief Ravinat to call sober-minded visitors to this site ... idiots?
                        Have you yourself passed an intelligence test? or you ... as always a test ... two sticks ?!
                        And about the provocateurs, I agree with you! This article is a pure provocation! Instead of reviving their Slavic identity, we are being forced to revive the Jewish identity in the Russian wrapper (the cult of Judeo-Christianity)!


                        Slavic identity are you talking about? You propose nothing at all to not believe in or will return to paganism. Now, people generally don’t believe in anything and Orthodoxy (from Wikipedia “correct judgment”, “correct teaching”)
                        it is a faith that unites the Russian people and strengthens the spirit for a reason that our ancestors from different religions chose it. And without faith, we will become Geyropu.
                        And human rights about provocateurs support him.
                        I don’t know what you believe or you are an atheist, but every person believes in something, this is especially true when bombs fall and bullets whistle.
                        You say the article is a provocation. Apparently, you didn’t read it or ran in fits and starts, but I don’t see anything provocative.
                      3. GG2012
                        0
                        20 January 2013 00: 46
                        Quote: in stock
                        And without faith, we will become Geyropu.

                        How Judo-Christian it is, all sober-minded people should immediately be recorded as gay men!
                        Here is a striking example of Jewish thinking in the head of a Russian person!

                        Does it bother you that everything, absolutely everything in Christianity, is Jewish?
                        After all, there is nothing Slavic in it!
                        And Jew Ga-Nozri (aka Christ) to not to Jews, treated the same as goyim, i.e. second-class people talking to animals?
                        How can you call yourself Russian if you have Jewish thoughts, ideas, concepts in your head?
                      4. in reserve
                        +2
                        20 January 2013 01: 46
                        [
                        b] GG2012
                        How Judo-Christian it is, all sober-minded people should immediately be recorded as gay men!
                        Here is a striking example of Jewish thinking in the head of a Russian person!


                        Your comments are not convincing, there’s nothing for you to cling to, they hooked on a geyropu, turned my words over or maybe they misunderstood "from a great mind"and you want to bring me under the assumption that I am a Jew, but I am Russian and by the way I have nothing against Jews, and you smell like Nazism and complete unbelief.
                        You still call yourself a sane person, raise your self-esteem, but you will not raise it in my eyes and in the eyes of truly sane people.
              3. S_mirnov
                -8
                19 January 2013 18: 00
                "The patriarch is guarded by the FSO" -and what ... is the FSO guarding him, is he a state official? According to our constitution, the state is separate and the church is separate. Or the FSO also protects rabbis and mullahs and Buddhists?
                "respectively, a car from GON." so he also drives a state-owned wheelbarrow ?! what a bug!
                1. +6
                  19 January 2013 18: 07
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  The patriarch is guarded by the FSO "-and what ... is the FSO guarding him

                  Why shouldn't they guard him? So that all kinds of snacks are not tempted.
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  so he also drives a state-owned car ?! it’s a bug!

                  What, the toad is strangling?
                  1. S_mirnov
                    -4
                    20 January 2013 10: 08
                    "What, the toad is choking?" - no, it's a shame for the people who feed the fattening jo№pu!
                    http://demotivation.me/nkxjythlqhxnpic.html
                    Here is an example of a normal Patriarch!
                    http://www.preobrazgenie.org/include/general_images_imagebig.php?general_images_
                    id = 269

                    "Quote: S_mirnov
                    The patriarch is guarded by the FSO "-and what ... is the FSO guarding him

                    Why shouldn't he be guarded? "- because he is not a civil servant, let him hire guards with his own money (or does he work for the FSB?).

                    "That would not have any temptation pusek." - Puski did not attack the patriarch, they sang a song in the church, normal priests could respond by coming to a punk party!
                    1. +5
                      20 January 2013 10: 22
                      Quote: S_mirnov
                      no, it’s a shame for the people who feed the fattening jo # pu!

                      Udaltsov is also offended by the people, only everything is written on his forehead !!!
                      Quote: S_mirnov
                      itata: S_mirnov
                      The patriarch is guarded by the FSO "-and what ... is the FSO guarding him

                      \ It’s not for you to decide who should guard him!
                      Quote: S_mirnov
                      Puski did not attack the patriarch, they sang a song in the church

                      Do you call Satanism a song? Everything is clear with you. Yet and again negative
                      1. S_mirnov
                        -2
                        20 January 2013 13: 23
                        What else is satanism? do you have paranoia? Dumb girls clumsily sang a song about Putin! And that’s all! Maybe Putin is Satan for you? Then I agree, Satanism !!! All to fight Satanism!
                    2. bask
                      +4
                      20 January 2013 10: 40
                      Quote: S_mirnov
                      that would not have any temptation to any pusek. "- Puski did not attack the patriarch, they sang a song in the church, normal priests could respond by coming to a punk party!

                      This is a temple, not a disco. And if they did this in a mosque or in a synagogue What would it be with them ???
                      1. S_mirnov
                        0
                        20 January 2013 13: 26
                        "A head ax or a dagger in the w o poo." - do you regret that there are not enough religious fanatics in the HHS? So the basis of the Christian faith is submission!
                      2. kadette150
                        +3
                        20 January 2013 14: 43
                        Not humility, but humility and love for one's neighbor. And this is not the same thing.
                    3. 0
                      20 January 2013 18: 13
                      are you for pa.d-pussy or how to understand you?
                      1. S_mirnov
                        0
                        20 January 2013 18: 22
                        Yes, they just fools fool for 15 days on the sidewalks of revenge for petty hooliganism, which is why the problem is inflated.
                      2. YuDDP
                        +2
                        21 January 2013 00: 57
                        What would it be different to others.
                    4. Aleksandr2
                      0
                      7 November 2013 11: 09
                      For you, probably pop this curse, see how it translates from Greek
                2. gribnik777
                  +6
                  19 January 2013 18: 59
                  Quote: S_mirnov

                  rabbis and mullahs and all sorts of Buddhists


                  If necessary, they will guard.
                  Spiritual authority is higher than worldly.
                  1. -1
                    20 January 2013 21: 36
                    I thought it’s kind of like a century 21 in the yard, and judging by the comments the dark Middle Ages .... what’s the next bonfire ...
                3. +3
                  19 January 2013 23: 15
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  "The patriarch is guarded by the FSO" -and what ... is the FSO guarding him, is he a state official? According to our constitution, the state is separate and the church is separate.

                  The fact that the church is separated from the state does not mean that it is outside the law, it also extends the state's obligations to protect ...
                  Think with your head, then you don’t have to explain common truths
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  Or rabbis and mullahs and all sorts of Buddhists, we also protect the FSO?

                  Maybe the FSO, if necessary. Don't bother yourself with this question at all. Let its president break, this is his direct duty and prerogative. He, including for this, we pay money.
                  1. S_mirnov
                    -3
                    20 January 2013 10: 10
                    ". Let the president break it, this is his direct duty and prerogative. We pay money to him, including for this." - and what helps?
                    "she is also subject to the obligations of the state to protect" - but the FSO does not protect me, probably I do not know how to steal wink
                    1. +7
                      20 January 2013 10: 17
                      Quote: S_mirnov
                      but the FSO doesn’t protect me, I probably don’t know how to steal

                      All thieves recorded? Ile forgot who else.?
                      Hold the thief - thief shouted !!!
                      1. S_mirnov
                        -3
                        20 January 2013 13: 31
                        Why, then, do you like to generalize everyone, everything is simple with you!
                        Here is an example, in my opinion, of an honest patriarch:
                        http://verydemotivational.ru/demotivatory-po-russki/3506-serbskij-patriarx-pavel
                        -a-teper-vspomni-na-chem-ezdit-patriarx-vseya-rusi-kirill.html
                        But you bow to this person:
                        http://demotivation.me/scq3dpy4kkzjpic.html
                      2. +4
                        21 January 2013 02: 45
                        Regarding your preferences: Serbia is not Russia, the comparison is not appropriate. Regarding Patriarch Kirill - what in his words scared you so much? The fact that a person needs to be brought up in love for his neighbor, reject power solutions to issues, putting diplomatic solutions ahead - this is as clear as day! The patriarch said normal words. This is how you need to educate your children, and then "say a remark - he climbs to fight" - the main principle in your opinion?
                    2. Aleksandr2
                      0
                      7 November 2013 11: 11
                      I probably do not know how to steal
                      well these are your problems
                4. kadette150
                  +2
                  20 January 2013 14: 41
                  Of course, it is separated from the state, but nevertheless it is the most important component of the life of the country. And the state should take care of the life of the country. And even here, leave the right to do so to our leadership. Can it be hardly mistaken to care about the safety of the patriarch?
                5. Aleksandr2
                  0
                  7 November 2013 11: 07
                  the lot of people like you only envy
              4. gribnik777
                +4
                19 January 2013 19: 04
                By the way, take a closer look !!!

                In the photo is ALEXY II !!!
                1. +1
                  19 January 2013 23: 20
                  Quote: gribnik777
                  In the photo is ALEXY II !!!

                  Exactly Alexy! Earth rest in peace ...
                2. kadette150
                  +1
                  20 January 2013 14: 44
                  So at the beginning it also seemed to me that Alexy. Taki not to me alone.
              5. +6
                19 January 2013 19: 37
                Quote: gribnik777
                the atriarch is guarded by the FSO, respectively, a car from GON.

                Yes, everyone knows about it, Alexy also rode on it, there’s simply nowhere to pour shit
              6. vladsolo56
                -6
                19 January 2013 20: 55
                Why am he so afraid? because he believes in God, let him ask to be protected, or what can God hope for, but don’t hesitate?
                1. +1
                  19 January 2013 23: 27
                  Quote: vladsolo56
                  why is he so afraid?

                  And where did you get this?
                  Quote: vladsolo56
                  he believes in God, let him ask for protection,

                  And how do you imagine his divine guard? In the form of Michael the Archangel on a white horse and with a flasher? laughing
                  Quote: vladsolo56
                  or what hope in God, but don’t lie yourself?

                  But this is true ... Yes !
                2. kadette150
                  +4
                  20 January 2013 14: 46
                  Ordinary atheistic reasoning. But God shows a miracle only of his own free will, and not at the request of the working people. All the rest of the time, God acts at the hands of people, you and me. However, like Satan.
                3. Aleksandr2
                  0
                  7 November 2013 11: 14
                  You definitely can’t be saved
              7. GG2012
                +2
                20 January 2013 04: 30
                Quote: gribnik777
                Too many patriarch of all Russia - a darling target

                Let him take the example of GDP - a model of restraint, good taste and dignity!
                The Chekists have a lot to learn!

                For the Great Russian Empire !!! drinks drinks drinks
              8. -2
                20 January 2013 15: 00
                Quote: gribnik777
                The patriarch is guarded by the FSO, respectively, a car from the GON.


                I have nothing against the Russian Orthodox Church, however .... Our church is separated from the state. Why do they charge and protect a church leader on my taxes? What, the ROC, with all its wealth and business "in Christ", is not able to pay for transport and security for its patriarch?
            2. 0
              19 January 2013 17: 44
              GG2012,
              The picture was written by the artist, this is not a photograph, but a painting. The patriarch is a protected person. If an ordinary priest rides on a cool car, he needs to be transplanted from her or dismissed from service.
            3. +13
              19 January 2013 18: 20
              The painting depicts the monk Peresvet, the hero of the Battle of Kulikovo. Prior to monasticism, he was a rich boyar and an excellent warrior, naturally had the appropriate military uniform and horse. However, he is not depicted in full uniform. There are no protective armor and chain mail. Instead, the Scheme into which they dedicated (along with his brother Oslyable, also a famous warrior) St. Sergius. Your irony, in my opinion, is inappropriate and shows either deep ignorance or conscious discrediting of the hero.
            4. +2
              19 January 2013 22: 38
              Quote: GG2012
              in the top picture, under the monk, there is a horse, and on the horse zbroi ... and zbrui is not simple, but very expensive ... such zbroi, in those days, could cost several carts with game, furs and food. At the time, this is the monthly grocery budget of a small town!
              And also, look at the horse. The horse is not peasant, but from the royal stables. Thoroughbred!

              Are you jealous? Envy is a sin. Or are you out of material considerations? God of God you are our ...
              1. GG2012
                +2
                19 January 2013 22: 46
                Quote: Nick
                God of God you are our ...

                I will correct it. Iudoborets I am yours ...
                1. 0
                  20 January 2013 00: 21
                  Quote: GG2012
                  I will correct it. Iudoborets I am yours ..

                  So with this you were late for about two thousand years. Judah himself hanged himself a long time ago ...
                  1. GG2012
                    0
                    20 January 2013 00: 49
                    Quote: Nick
                    So with this you were late for about two thousand years.

                    For those who are not particularly understanding, I explain - the Jewish man: struggling with Jewish dominance.
                    1. +1
                      20 January 2013 01: 08
                      Quote: GG2012
                      Jewish man: struggling with Jewish dominance.

                      What field are you fighting in? Intellectual? Brutal? Territorial? Be careful with these ideas. They brought one halfwit to arsenic tablets. He also imagines himself to be a superman, and the Lord, as you know, does not encourage pride.
                      1. GG2012
                        +3
                        20 January 2013 01: 59
                        Quote: Nick
                        What field are you fighting in? Intellectual?

                        In the information field and in yourself.
                        From a letter from the writer A.P. Chekhov to the publisher and journalist A.F. Suvorin (January 7, 1889).
                        “What the noble writers took from nature for nothing, the people of the same community buy at the cost of youth. Write a story about how a young man, a serf’s son, a former shopkeeper, a gymnasium student and student, brought up to honor, kiss priest’s hands, worship someone else’s thoughts ... squeezes a slave from himself drop by drop and how, waking up one fine morning, he feels that in his veins not slave blood, but real human».
                        To paraphrase this phrase, I will say that the task each Slav is squeezing a Jew out of himself.
                        Quote: Nick
                        They brought one halfwit to arsenic tablets. He also imagines himself a superman,

                        Comparing me with Adolf Aloizovich is clearly inappropriate!
                        Did my comments contain ideas about the racial superiority of the Slavs over non-Slavs?
                        But in the Talmud, in the Quran, in the Old Testament and in the New Testament, such ideas and words are present. On this principle is built every religion that claims to be God's chosen people.
                        Peace to you ... and sort out your knots!
                      2. +1
                        20 January 2013 16: 03
                        Quote: GG2012
                        To paraphrase this phrase, I will say that the task of every Slav is to squeeze a Jew out of himself.

                        There is nothing Jewish in me and there is nothing to squeeze out. And if you consider Orthodoxy a Jewish faith, then you are mistaken, it is supranational, it has no Jews, Slavs, Romans, there are only Christians and non-Christians.
                        And rephrase the classic is not worth it. And to be honest, Chekhov sometimes dislikes Russia, this, of course, is my personal opinion, which I do not impose on anyone
                        .
                        Quote: GG2012
                        Comparing me with Adolf Aloizovich is clearly inappropriate!
                        Did my comments contain ideas about the racial superiority of the Slavs over non-Slavs?

                        But didn’t you call yourself a fighter with Jewish dominance? Wasn’t Hitler fighting the same?

                        Quote: GG2012
                        Peace to you ... and sort out your knots!

                        I sincerely wish you the same.
                      3. +2
                        20 January 2013 05: 14
                        Quote: Nick
                        They drove one idiot to arsenic tablets

                        Well, this one has five warnings so far, everyone gets what he wants.
                      4. +4
                        20 January 2013 05: 35
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Well, this one has five warnings so far, everyone gets what he wants.
                        Hi Sasha hi
                        It seems that soon everyone will have them added. With the introduction of the black list, many began to switch to personalities without hesitation.
                      5. +3
                        20 January 2013 05: 51
                        Hi Ruslan!
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        the introduction of the blacklist, many began to switch to the individual without hesitation

                        And they were confusing, well, he brought me alone to the emergency, but I can see what he writes, and the Administration also sees. Let him write, until the eternal ban, they are a year old, an hour ago belay
                        Yesterday, one on this topic already received laughing
                      6. +4
                        20 January 2013 06: 00
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Yesterday, one on this topic already received

                        Well, he’s clearly from a big mind-moderator to the list good wassat I also drove one frame fool epithets were given by mama do not cry negative I'm sitting now and I think: send three letters from you am minuses instruct not my style request to add to the list so water will be an infection and I won’t see belay Have to score and forget wassat
                      7. +2
                        20 January 2013 06: 15
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        I also drove one frame

                        With the Azerbaijani flag, well, that already drove half the Sait in the emergency, soon he will talk to himself laughing
                      8. +4
                        20 January 2013 06: 18
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        With the flag of Azerbaijan

                        Well this one too sad Mine is normal wassat Russian double major itch in the drawbar laughing
            5. +1
              20 January 2013 09: 47
              GG2012 "In the top picture, a horse is under the monk, and on a horse is picking ... and picking is not simple, but very expensive ... such picking, in those days, could cost several carts with game, furs and food."
              Have you seriously written this mura? Draw conclusions about how it was then in modern pictures? Well done go far!
            6. +2
              20 January 2013 11: 27
              By the way, regarding profit, in 43 and later in 48, Stalin, when he planned to make Russia a world Orthodox center (and do not be surprised at that!), and later the Christian world center, was faced with the fact that the Greek patriarchs began to point a finger at us supposedly you have all the rogues there, and took a pro-English position, and accepted their generous funding, so think about why we are still not the third Rome? maybe because of your lamentations, too?
            7. YuDDP
              0
              21 January 2013 00: 39
              Now we do not have domestic armored limousines. He’s not going to ride a tank ...
          2. +12
            19 January 2013 18: 07
            The church is not priests. The head of the Church is Jesus Christ. The church is divided into Heavenly - Triumphant, which includes angels and saints living in paradise and Earthly - at war. All baptized people enter the earthly. The task of the Church is to return to the person the image lost as a result of the fall. The one by which he was created (the image of God). Those. The church helps a person draw near to God. The Church has no other tasks.
            Now in relation to the "priests". These are the same people as you and me. Every Orthodox Christian is anointed at baptism, thereby receiving the priesthood and royalty. Answering a similar question to one of the priests I respect, why does it happen that unworthy ministers meet? I received the following answer, the meaning of which is that even the proportion of such shepherds is known - every twelfth. If Judas could not withstand the presence and personal communion with Christ, then how can all modern priests be saved from the temptations of the devil? And nothing can be done about it.
            1. +4
              19 January 2013 18: 52
              Gregazov,
              Jesus came to the Jews to correct the orthodox Jewish teaching of the Torah, and not to create a new religion. Religion is created by people.
              The Jews did not accept the new teaching of Christ, crucified it and themselves (Paul-Saul) created a religion for the gentiles.
              Jesus told his disciples: Do not go to the North to the Slavs. I have come to the lost sheep of Israel.
              Therefore, the Christian religion was created as a business corporation based on income. This has nothing to do with the Gospels, because true believers do not need the corporation of the church with their laws, but directly turn to the bright teaching of Christ. To communicate with him do not need intermediaries.
              1. bask
                0
                19 January 2013 19: 21
                Quote: Ross
                Ross

                Great Ross GG2012. All a happy holiday. For me, this is a great holiday .. And I do not need intermediaries. Not all people are Believers. I always say do not want to not believe .. These sectarians are dragged by force into sects. A UNING FACTOR SHOULD BE LOVE FOR RUSSIA AND READY TO GIVE LIFE FOR THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE .... How many people have so many opinions. ALL HEALTH YOU WILL HAVE PEACE IN THE FAMILY AND YOU. On another branch are Caucasian bloggers against Cossack patrols in the Kuban. This is where everyone needs to unite. There are no unbelievers in the war .... And we have a war .. while it’s cold ... WE WILL BE ONE BROTHERS OF SLAVES ..
              2. Guun
                +1
                19 January 2013 23: 17
                Ross completely agree with you. There are no intermediaries between God and man, like a priest, etc.
                Quote: Ross
                Therefore, the Christian religion was created as a business corporation based on income.

                The induction showed this. Seek the truth and it will come to you by the will of God.
              3. +4
                20 January 2013 14: 42
                why do you, dear, go to school to study mathematics, for example, and don’t recognize it with our hearts, turn to intermediaries in the form of algebraic teachers and mathematics)))), I’m afraid because you know mathematics and accept the postulate 2x2 = 5 with your heart the teachings of Christ, without a church you very quickly slide down to the Gnostics, well, or you will become the next Tom Cruise, who is also a god and can move planets with his thought)
            2. GG2012
              0
              19 January 2013 18: 54
              Quote: GregAzov
              The head of the Church is Jesus Christ.

              How symbolic is it among the Slavs who renounced their true Nature, the church is headed by the corpse of a Jew, and the economy is headed by Jews, the media are headed by Jews, the beloved "Basilio's Cat" is Judas Yakubovich, the main television personality is the non-traditional Ernst, the government is completely ... circumcised, 70% of the Academy of Sciences is crushed Jews ...
              All key positions in life are crammed with reptilian representatives.
              The main language of the ROC - Vsevolod Charlie Chaplin - an Orthodox Judaist - tells us how sinful we are, and she "(in the sense of the church), the only" ray of light in the Russian darkness. "At the same time (ROC) traded in alcohol and cigarettes !!!
              And this is against the background that Jews from birth inspire their younger generation about its "divine nature."
              What a contrast! They belittle us, but they themselves rise!
              But this is the formation of self-esteem and as a result of motivation for actions.
              And with us, the entire motivational sphere is crammed with "Jewish tales" about what kind of Slavs "Banderlog" we are, lived in dugouts, ate human flesh, and only thanks to the Jews, we became a little bit people, more precisely ... half-Jews!
              Daless's plan in execution !!!
              The Slav who renounced his Nature becomes a Christian and a half-Jew!

              And it is especially interesting to listen to Christian conversations about FAITH !!!
              Is this an additional organ in your body ?! Then show it !!!
              Human anatomy is very well studied, and human psychology is also sufficiently studied to understand what is called FAITH - this is a function uncritical perceptions of our psyche !!!
              N E K R I T I E C K O D O perception!
              And the intellect is responsible for critical perception information!
              These are two functions of our psyche! And each has its own purpose!

              How can you live in the 21st century and have medieval brains ??? !!!
              1. +5
                19 January 2013 19: 47
                Even harder to live without brains. Christianity is not a religion of Jews. Moreover, almost all the persecution of Christians in apostolic times was inspired by the Jews.
                Before the adoption of Christianity, Russia was pagan, and this, among other things, horror, incomprehensible to a person with brains of the 21st century sample, suggests sacrifices, including human ones.
                There are currently pagan states. For example, India. Only under the influence of Christianity in this country in the 20th century ceased human sacrifice.
                So what are your values?
                1. GG2012
                  +2
                  19 January 2013 20: 42
                  Quote: GregAzov
                  Even harder to live without brains.

                  For you, as a true colonel, it should be known that the period of paganism and the period of sacrifice existed from 980 to 988.
                  This cult was introduced by the Jewish foundling Vladimir.
                  And before 980, and thousands of years before, on the territory dominated by Slavic tribes, there was a cult of Vedism in which there were no human sacrifices!
                  By the way, your beloved Jews still have a cult of sacrifice.
                  What can explain the circumcision procedure among the Jews? Is this not a sacrifice to the strange Jewish Gd who loves the foreskin!
                  Strange tastes of their gods! Is not it?!
                  And the famous Jewish holiday Passover? http://dokumentika.org/religiya/krovavaya-pascha-d-ra-arielya-toaffa
                  And how many sacrifices are described in your favorite Jews in the Old Testament (in the sense of the Old)? I’m tired of listing!
                  And of course, it must be said that in Christianity the sacrifices gave way to more advanced spiritual cannibalism, the symbolic eating and sipping of the body and blood of a famous tramp.

                  Bon appetit to you, a real colonel and learn materiel!

                  PS Today's dominance of the Jews in all branches of life in Russia and Ukraine is a consequence of the betrayal committed by the Slavs in relation to their true Nature and the replacement of their Slavic worldview with a Jewish worldview!
                  1. -1
                    19 January 2013 21: 13
                    I will probably surprise you greatly, but the Vedas are the basis of the pagan religion - Hinduism. I agree with you that before the adoption of Christianity, Russia was pagan. With the unification of Slavic tribes that worshiped different pagan gods, Vladimir tried to make something like the Roman Panopticon, uniting all the pagan gods and naturally the tribes. At this point, the human sacrifice was timed, and so on, these are well-known facts.
                    Victims, including human ones, are described in the Vedic hymns of the Hindus. Vladimir did not invent anything new in terms of pagan sacrifices.
                    The sacrifice of the foreskin in Jewish men is fundamentally different in nature - a confirmation of Abraham’s covenant with God.
                    The bloody sacrifice by man or animal has a completely different meaning. By making a sacrifice, a person admits that he is worthy of death (blood), but instead of his life (blood) he offers the blood of the victim.
                    If you want, I can explain the meaning of the Christian bloodless sacrifice (if interested).
                    1. vladsolo56
                      +3
                      19 January 2013 21: 19
                      You can tell tales to your two-man team in the church, Russia was baptized by force, fire and sword, coercion, in one I agree Vladimir needed power and not the state, he thought only about himself and his unshakable power
                      1. +2
                        19 January 2013 22: 57
                        Quote: vladsolo56
                        not in the state, he thought only of himself and his unshakable power


                        Can you give an example of a state existing without a carrier of power.
                      2. +2
                        19 January 2013 23: 49
                        Quote: vladsolo56
                        Russia was baptized by force, fire and sword, coercion, in one I agree Vladimir needed power and not the state, he thought only about himself and his unshakable power

                        This is your guess. What moved Vladimir? the desire to unite and strengthen Russia, or simple lust for power, or both, can now only be assumed. But judging by the fact that he was nicknamed by the people Vladimir Vladimir the Red Sun, and then ranked as a saint, it is not your assumption that suggests itself.
                      3. Aleksandr2
                        0
                        7 November 2013 11: 42
                        It was hammered into your head and you believed
                    2. +4
                      19 January 2013 21: 58
                      Gregazov,

                      I will probably surprise you greatly, but the Vedas are the basis of the pagan religion - Hinduism.


                      Sorry for interfering in your conversation, but the Vedas of India brought the Arians from the territory of the Southern Urals, the ancestors of the Slavs and Iranians. And the Indian Vedas are a surviving version. Most importantly, the Vedas have never brought bloody sacrifices, read carefully! The bloody cult of Kali in southern India never belonged to the Vedas! The Brahmins of India (and I personally know one of them) brought knowledge. It was they who stopped the cult of Kali thousands of years ago. What was practiced clandestinely does not count.
                      The Vedas are yogic knowledge! And turn the word YOG on the contrary and get GOY. Think for a minute, look at the ancient Cossack songs with this word. Here they are, traces of our VED.
                      1. -1
                        20 January 2013 08: 59
                        The Aryans did not have temples and images of gods. The basis of the cult was sacrifices to the gods. In the houses of the sacrifice was brought by the head of the family, alone or with the house priest. Public sacrifices were performed by a group of priests on the altars in the open. One priest recited the hymns of the Rigveda, another sang Samaweda, the third uttered the sacrificial formulas of Yajurveda, the fourth recited the spells of Atharva Veda, observed the order of sacrifice and reproduced in the mind the worship itself, and those mythological plots that symbolized the sacrifices. This last priest apparently led the sacrifice and was called a brahmana, because he knew the mantras of all four samhitas.
                        Desiring to receive something from the gods (health, longevity, wealth, sons, success in war, etc.), the Aryans seemed to exchange it for a sacrifice. It was believed that the gods needed sacrifices and praises to strengthen their strength, and that rituals support the very existence of the universe.
                        The whole life of the Aryans took place in family and social rituals (life cycle, annual cycle, propitiation, redemptive, in fulfillment of a vow, etc.). They ranged from the simplest - agnihotra (libation on the sacrificial fire of milk), to ashwametha - a ritual that lasted a year and ended with a horse sacrifice. Ashwametha was called to magically clear the land occupied by the rajas (prince) and ensure their fertility.
                        In the past, the Aryans had sacrifices of people who resorted to in cases of extreme danger to the country, when all other victims did not bring results. But already in the era of the creation of the Rigveda, a man (a priest or a warrior of a princely squad) was symbolically replaced by a sacrificial animal.
                      2. +4
                        20 January 2013 09: 30
                        Gregazov,
                        Dear Gregory! Do not read bedtime stories! According to the text, it is felt that the material was taken from a scientist who was extremely far from the Vedas.
                        Take a trip to Arkaim, take a look with your own eyes how the Arians lived and what rituals they actually performed.
                        The ritual of Ognihotra was twice present and participated in India. Not by hearsay I say, this is the Anthem to the Sun and Fire. Ritual rice is burned. It is illuminated by the Spiritual Fire that gives life to everything on Earth. Never Brahmins (knowledge is passed down from generation to generation, study begins in childhood!) Did not sacrifice people! The basis of the Aryan culture in India is a sacred cow, which means the earth conditionally mother. And sacred cow's milk is used in many foods and drinks - a way to touch the sacred energy of the Earth. God with the Aryans is one, and his hypostasis is the reflection of various energies.
                        Do not draw conclusions on empty quotes, study everything yourself.
                        My former mentor defended his Ph.D. in Taoism at the Institute of Oriental Studies with Professor Torchinov, the most famous since the USSR era, the largest specialist in Russia in Buddhism and Taoism, the author of many monographs. His student, before defending his dissertation, spent three years in the monasteries of China, traveled around and enrolled in the students of three Taoist schools. Only after living inside these years, after defending himself in St. Petersburg, did he say that our modern science really knows NOTHING about Taoism, taking figuratively encrypted texts like fairy tales and myths seriously. Without understanding from within the symbolism of texts - you will never understand the essence. So with Vedism, understand this is not a religion at all - but a worldview and a yoga complex for the higher development of man.
                      3. +1
                        20 January 2013 15: 07
                        What you saw now should in no way correspond to what I wrote about. So, as the Vedic period (the religion of the Aryans, in which there was no reincarnation) was replaced by Brahmanism, which in turn replaced the Upanishad period, then the Aranyak period, which ended with the synthesis of trimurti - a kind of "likeness" of the Orthodox Trinity. With the advent of reincarnation in Hinduism, sacrifices of animals and people lose their meaning.
                        The debate was initially that the pagan beliefs of the ancient Slavs and the pagan Aryan culture of the ancient Aryans are one and the same religion. My opponent tried to prove the opposite.
                      4. +2
                        20 January 2013 20: 59
                        Gregazov,
                        If we talk about pagan culture and Vedism of the ancient Aryans, then it is necessary to build the entire vertical, from the sources of knowledge to the present day. The foundation of all these teachings was the teaching of the Hyperboreans-Boreals, the Hyperborean cross, or the Northern tradition. Since the civilization of Hyperboreans stood at a much higher level, the very teaching of Hyperboreans constituted the basis of all subsequent traditions. Unfortunately, today this knowledge is almost lost, with the exception of some northern regions of the Arkhangelsk region and Altai. Therefore, with a partial loss of knowledge, the subsequent Aryan civilization arose the teachings of the Vedas (Vedas - from the word to know, to know). First of all, it is not a religion! Already further, losing knowledge, in India and in Persia, this turned into a religion. In Russia, unfortunately, they also began to pay more attention to rituals, rather than spiritual growth. Hence the individual distortions.
                  2. kadette150
                    +2
                    20 January 2013 15: 19
                    Well ridiculed lol Circumcision is a sacrifice))) Nobel Prize in the studio))))) And for the information of GOD, he is one of the Jews and Christians. He is generally alone.
            3. Aleksandr2
              0
              7 November 2013 11: 38
              Well said
          3. +2
            19 January 2013 22: 31
            Quote: S_mirnov
            At the moment, the church is so saturated with merchandise itself that before teaching people what to believe in it, it must be cleansed itself!

            What is your statement based on? Are you doing business with the church? Or do you consider yourself the ultimate truth?
            JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED!
    3. AndreyAB
      +2
      19 January 2013 11: 44
      A vitally important necessity, and then the unity of the Slavic peoples as one nationality and faith.
      1. +3
        19 January 2013 17: 47
        AndreyAB,
        And we are one people, Westerners have been tearing us throughout history. Really not visible.
        1. +2
          19 January 2013 23: 52
          Quote: Sandov
          And we are one people, Westerners have been tearing us throughout history. Really not visible.

          Therefore, they beat the Orthodox Faith, which united Russia into a powerful Slavic state.
    4. +3
      19 January 2013 15: 46
      Russia's mission is to save the world.
      1. 0
        20 January 2013 14: 46
        I would add, Europe’s last hope is the T-72 on the English Channel.
    5. YARY
      +4
      20 January 2013 09: 34
      NIGHTLIGHT NIGHTMAR OF LIBERASTS SHIT
      1. bask
        +3
        20 January 2013 09: 56
        Quote: Ardent

        NIGHTLIGHT NIGHTMAR OF LIBERASTS SHIT

        I AGREE, FOR ALL 100% So far, we will debate who is right and who is wrong, and which fairy tales are better. WE WILL BE TALKED ONE ALONE. WE WILL BE ONE !!!! ! And BELIEVE LET EVERYONE CHOOSE FOR HIMSELF !!!!!
  2. KAZAKHSTAN
    -11
    19 January 2013 07: 58
    Holy Kazakhstan or Virgin Kazakhstan :) There is no saint in this world!
    1. +5
      19 January 2013 09: 22
      Quote: KAZAKHSTAN
      Holy Kazakhstan or Virgin Kazakhstan :) There is no saint in this world!
      That's why you don’t have a saint because you cover your native land with spittle ... But when, long ago, even Genghis Khan could not conquer your lands .. Hmm ...
    2. +6
      19 January 2013 11: 56
      Quote: KAZAKHSTAN
      There is no saint in this world!

      Including your mother? Think what you write .....MINUS
      1. +5
        19 January 2013 12: 02
        Yes, you do not pay attention, it’s obviously provoking .... It just turned out to be ridiculous ... Yes, he was not a Kazakhstani, but an Icelander .... It froze to see ... Or maybe the volcano scared ...
        1. +7
          19 January 2013 16: 37
          Quote: Slavs
          Yes, you do not pay attention, it clearly provokes ....

          Yes, this is Sham, he has been on the site for a long time. He is not a rulemaker, he just does not see anything wrong with smoking anasha, here is the result hi
          1. +2
            19 January 2013 22: 55
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            just does not see anything wrong with smoking anasha, here is the result

            Sasha, who doesn’t mind, let him smoke, but not here ....
          2. +1
            19 January 2013 23: 54
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            He is not a rulemaker, he just does not see anything wrong with smoking anasha, here is the result

            And the casket just opened ... wassat
  3. zevs379
    +7
    19 January 2013 07: 59
    POWERFUL + Western demo (but) racism promises “freedom and equality” for everyone, but in fact, it is a lie and a lie. In practice, it looks like this: freedom, permissiveness and equality are received by the "cancerous tumors" of society: all sorts of perverts, destructive sects, and even completely Satanists ...


    It turns out not only RUSSIANS understand this
    1. +6
      19 January 2013 09: 25
      Quote: zevs379
      It turns out not only RUSSIANS understand this
      Here, in my opinion, there is more of the anthem of Orthodox Russia than the anthem of just Russia ... Due to our closeness, we have preserved the principles of life that were originally laid down in Christianity ... Our soul is more important than the stomach .. And God forbid, so that it remains as possible longer ... Then both the second and third millennia Russia will celebrate as a single and strong state ...
      1. +6
        19 January 2013 12: 00
        Quote: older
        Here, in my opinion, there is more an anthem of Orthodox Russia than an anthem of just Russia ...

        Russia and Orthodoxy are inseparable, there can be no Orthodoxy without Russia as well as Russia without Orthodoxy
      2. S_mirnov
        +2
        19 January 2013 13: 49
        "Here, in my opinion, is more a hymn of Orthodox Russia" - if you look closely, then this is not a hymn to Russia, not to God, but specifically the Russian Orthodox Church! Trust in the priests has now been undermined by the actions of the priests themselves, and so little articles are being sprinkled to raise the image of ZAO "ROC".
        The church is a good thing, it preserves traditions, but it’s time to traders from the church. This is a simple process, examples are already described in the bible, though the corrupted ministers of the church showed fierce resistance according to the bible, and now it will not do without it!
        1. +7
          19 January 2013 16: 39
          Quote: S_mirnov
          - if you take a closer look, then this is a hymn not to Russia, not to God, but specifically to the Russian Orthodox Church! Trust in the priests is now undermined by the actions of the priests themselves,

          Oh, really? If one jackal is in a flock, you smear everyone with one world. The Russian Orthodox Church criticizes someone who has nothing to do with her and does not go to church. Does Smirnov personally bother you? Or do you feel bad that people go to temples?
          1. davoks
            +2
            19 January 2013 16: 54
            but it doesn’t bother you. that the Russian Orthodox Church goes to the army and to educational institutions? I didn’t invite them there
          2. S_mirnov
            -1
            19 January 2013 18: 05
            I am hindered by the theft of state money and the exploitation of the Russian people by a handful of traders. And with impunity! And such articles are aimed at fooling the people (together with a truthful thought about Russian spirituality, the article contains a parasitic thought about the "sanctity" of the modern ZAO ROC). And if this does not bother you, then it leads to reasoning ...
            1. +7
              19 January 2013 19: 43
              Quote: S_mirnov
              And if this does not bother you, then it leads to reasoning ...


              Start with yourself, and after introspection priests will seem like angels
              1. S_mirnov
                -4
                20 January 2013 09: 58
                I don’t extort money from pensioners.
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd3PdqatF-0
                1. +3
                  20 January 2013 10: 07
                  Quote: S_mirnov

                  I don’t extort money from pensioners.

                  And where is it extorted, I would answer her the same way. There is no tariff, sacrifice from the heart. What a question, such an answer. I look at Smirnov your goal is not true. And denigrating the Church and undermining the canons of the Russians. So who is the traitor ?
                  1. S_mirnov
                    0
                    20 January 2013 18: 19
                    In the video, two arrogant priestly hari advise parishioners to donate all the money they have, and live on what God will send, if for you this is "Russian canons", then you are some kind of wrong Russian.
                    "Your goal is not true. But the denigration of the Church" - perhaps in your opinion Christ who drove the merchants out of the Church by this strongly denigrated the church?
        2. 0
          21 January 2013 00: 54
          A delusional provocateur. The Bible is clearly seen from afar
      3. +1
        19 January 2013 23: 02
        Quote: older
        ... Our soul is more important than the stomach.


        TRUE !!!
    2. +1
      19 January 2013 17: 50
      zevs379,
      Now in the media the question of granting pid..ram the same rights as ordinary married couples is being intensively raised. This is exactly the end of the world.
  4. +7
    19 January 2013 08: 01
    ....... unfortunately, on the contrary - people from Russia go to the West, seduced by the local wealth, earthly wealth, rejecting the faith of their ancestors and the Motherland ....

    Unfortunately, being seduced by the very Garden, from which it would be good to run away.
    1. lotus04
      +1
      19 January 2013 08: 32
      Quote: Bulls.
      Unfortunately, being seduced by the very Garden, from which it would be good to run away.


      The Forbidden fruit is sweet! It is a pity that you understand this only with your "hind" mind.
      1. +3
        19 January 2013 09: 31
        Quote: lotus04
        The Forbidden fruit is sweet!

        Quote: Bulls.
        Unfortunately, being seduced by the very Garden, from which it would be good to run away.


        Blame everyone who moved to Europe for sadomies laughing

        I'll tell you how the reaction of a European resident and a Russian is different when a person says the phrase "I'm gay" to him.

        The European will turn away and leave silently.
        The Russian will either swear or give a bream.


        All these and similar comments are similar to the conversation of old grandmothers at the mound in a deep Udmurtia where there are no wires and radio ... where people have not left the village for their whole lives and have not read newspapers.

        I’m wondering, do people who have access to the Internet and such a volume of information, and indeed have the opportunity to see the world, believe in this nonsense about crowds of blue zombies roaming around Europe, about abominations and desolation ????

        I understand that there must be some kind of informational propaganda that life in Russia has its advantages and that one does not have to run to the west ...
        But not so rude as this article, it turns out that this lady sees the advantage of Russia only in holiness and religious processions ... while calling on the ROC not to split ... and where are the advantages of the legislative framework, the best opportunities for training and employment .. .. so to speak, where are the questions of everyday life ???

        sorry comrades - all this is rude.
        1. +8
          19 January 2013 09: 45
          Quote: haron
          European turns away and leaves silently

          Or stay and smile languidly.
          Quote: haron
          , it turns out that this lady sees the advantage of Russia only in holiness and religious processions .. while urging the Russian Orthodox Church to not be split .... and where are the advantages of the legislative framework, the best opportunities for training and employment ....

          no it’s not working, the article is aimed at appealing to a moral character, not a financial one. It is worth paying attention to everyone and thinking about what the essence is. In the West there is legislation and training, but they have lost their human face. Let those who got it go to Russia sodomy, those for whom money is not the meaning of life.
          1. 0
            19 January 2013 10: 42
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Or stay and smile languidly.

            belay
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            .Let them go to Russia, those who got sodomy, those for whom money is not the meaning of life.

            For the sake of a handful of sadomites to abandon their homeland.?!
          2. S_mirnov
            -2
            19 January 2013 13: 57
            "what is the point"
            here it’s very successful wink
            http://video.yandex.ru/users/marisha-matkovskaja/view/17/user-tag/%D0%B7%D0%B0%D
            0%BE%20%D1%80%D0%BF%D1%86/#
          3. davoks
            +1
            19 January 2013 15: 58
            in our Orthodox Russia, my father was not able to cure cancer, but only drove him to all the doctors. disability reluctantly issued to him. but in Sodomite Italy he was cured, had surgery, despite the fact that he had a 30% chance of surviving
        2. +1
          19 January 2013 09: 49
          Dear haron, this article says that this lady has completely merged with the church, she’s practically not interested in anything, she’s important what she is in front of God.
          ps
          And Europe is really gay (yesterday I read 60% of the French support gay marriage), and France is one of the leading countries of gay-Europe or am I mistaken?
          1. +1
            19 January 2013 10: 14
            How Russian propaganda comes down. She had to put a plus, although I did not like the presentation style)
          2. -6
            19 January 2013 10: 36

            Quote: Marrying
            this article says that this lady has completely merged with the church, she’s practically not interested in anything, what is important to her in the eyes of God.

            Dear Eugene. With great pleasure I would read an article of a similar plan written by: an engineer, scientist, doctor, or at least a graduate of sarbon.

            If nothing is important to this lady except God, then her place in the monastery. Ideally, a person should pay attention to both God and people (or has the essence of Christianity undergone changes?), Be useful to society, create something ..... yes, at least, roads and medicines for stupidity.
            1. +9
              19 January 2013 18: 38
              Haron, I am a Candidate of Technical Sciences, Associate Professor in the Department of Aviation and Radioelectronic Equipment, Colonel I subscribe to every word of the article. Of course, it was not written by a journalist, so somewhere there are repetitions, but it doesn’t matter. This is the ardor of a person trying to talk about the most important thing for him. Each word reflects the sincerity and honesty of this person. You, in my opinion, are trying to humiliate the author somewhat with a sense of lordly superiority, but from the outside it looks like an attempt by a fly to argue with the mountain which of them is higher. I will not explain who the fly is.
              1. 0
                20 January 2013 08: 35
                Quote: GregAzov
                I am a Candidate of Technical Sciences, Associate Professor in the Department of Aviation and Radioelectronic Equipment, Colonel

                Unfortunately or fortunately, I do not have such regalia (there are others ... but they are not important in this topic).
                Quote: GregAzov
                You, in my opinion, are trying to humiliate the author somewhat with a sense of lordly superiority, but from the outside it looks like an attempt by a fly to argue with the mountain which of them is higher. I will not explain who the fly is.

                I will leave this phrase without comment and try to explain my view with another example.

                Once upon a time I was in the city of Suzdal. There he heard a couple sing old Russian spiritual songs (the husband played the harp, the wife sang) ... they emanated such spirituality and spiritual beauty that .... in general, for the soul and to tears.
                I get exactly the same feeling when listening to the organist in St. Vitus Cathedral in Prague.
                Both in Suzdal and in Prague, both performers make (not violently :)) think about the soul, spirituality and God. There are Orthodox Catholics here - but the result is one. Like God alone.
                Fly say ..he !! my grandfather bore the name Mucha (he lived in the mountains and was very friendly with them) so that they guessed wink
            2. Aleksandr2
              0
              7 November 2013 11: 50
              Do not you tell where her place
        3. +3
          19 January 2013 10: 06
          Quote: haron
          it turns out that this lady sees the advantage of Russia only in holiness and religious processions .. while urging the Russian Orthodox Church to not be split .... and where are the advantages of the legislative framework, the best opportunities for training and employment .... so to speak, where are everyday issues ?? ?

          So, in general, this is the difference between ours and the West: in the West, material values, we have spiritual values. What is more important: the soul or the belly, everyone decides for himself.
          1. -2
            19 January 2013 10: 54
            Quote: Vladimirets
            So, in general, this is the difference between ours and the West: in the West, material values, we have spiritual values. What is more important: the soul or the belly, everyone decides for himself.

            Please tell me how long the soul will last if the belly is empty? If it really doesn’t matter what gets into the belly, then the shelves of Russian stores should be filled exclusively with essential products and grown only in local conditions - is it important to maintain the energy balance? (I certainly distort ... but what am I thinking ...)

            In western Europe, with the possible exception of Poland, the church has lost its leading role, but this does not mean at all that the inhabitants are unspiritual. God, soul, morality ... all this is present in most people of Europe. And the fact that they go to church little or they don’t have religious processions ... sorry, but that in Russia everyone goes to Sunday service. (Incidentally, in Poland Sunday services are visited by about 30% of the population).
            With the same success, the pagans could blame the lack of spirituality of the inhabitants of Russia who converted to Christianity after being baptized by Vladimir.
            1. +4
              19 January 2013 15: 05
              Quote: haron
              Please tell me how long the soul will last if the belly is empty?

              Yes, I'm not talking about that, "bread and circuses" has remained the leit motive of Western culture. Well, the soul will last a long time, if feeding the body does not prevail over feeding the soul.
              1. +1
                20 January 2013 08: 43
                Quote: Vladimirets
                "bread and circuses" has remained the leit motif of Western culture

                Do not watch American films at dinner .... better go to the European outback and live there for at least a year. In most cases, you will find the perfect compromise between spirituality and the world.
                Just do not set Paris as an example.
            2. +3
              19 January 2013 18: 01
              haron, how long will the soul last if the belly is empty?

              It's about consumption

              It is not necessary to gobble up and revel; reasonable consumption is normal.

              The soul, of course, is above all else, has lost the soul - has lost itself.
            3. +3
              19 January 2013 18: 41
              The head of the Church is Jesus Christ. You believe in God, you have a soul, morality, but only without Christ is all this not necessary.
          2. -2
            20 January 2013 07: 59
            Quote: Vladimirets
            in the west, material values, we have spiritual values.

            dissemble ... even the ability to receive spiritual values ​​in the form of communication on this site is associated with material value (computer, etc.)
        4. +3
          19 January 2013 17: 54
          Quote: haron
          Do people who have access to the Internet and such a volume of information, and indeed have the opportunity to see the world - believe in this nonsense about crowds of blue zombies roaming around Europe, about abominations and desolation ????

          I believe and even believe in person. By the way, there was no doubt, being there convinced and established in faith.
    2. +3
      19 January 2013 09: 30
      Quote: Bulls.
      Unfortunately, being seduced by the very Garden, from which it would be good to run away.
      Fans and priests of the Golden Calf have been and will be among all nations, in all countries .... The only difference is that one society puts this calf at the forefront, makes it king over people, and the other (Russia in particular) rejects it ... The rich are perceived as something alien, even when they do a lot to improve the lives of the people ... An example of this is our revolution ...
    3. davoks
      -1
      19 January 2013 15: 54
      and you were there in the west - you mean, in sodom? my mother worked here for a penny as a teacher. former Soviet professions are not needed here today. she had to work not on the profile. moved to Italy - work worthless. but pay with dignity. Is it chtoli Orthodox Russia without Sodom?
      1. +2
        19 January 2013 16: 44
        Quote: davoks
        in sodom, you mean? my mother worked here for a penny as a teacher. former Soviet professions are not needed here today. she had to work not on the profile. moved to Italy - work worthless. but pay with dignity.

        there are a lot of people on the site and the majority work in Russia and get more. than in Italy. Only we have a conscience.
        1. +2
          19 January 2013 16: 51
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          there are a lot of people on the site and the majority work in Russia and get more. than in Italy.

          Hi Sasha hi Happy holiday drinks So to get more than in the geyrop you need to work and not hang around rallies and watch the zombie laughing
        2. davoks
          -1
          19 January 2013 16: 58
          Well, tell me how a disabled person gets more in Russia. Did you dream about this or how? Unlike you, I was in Italy - there my mother receives at least 600 euros. and in our rush she received 10 pieces maximum. this is for teaching. I advise you to remove the pink shroud from the eyes
          1. davoks
            -1
            19 January 2013 17: 02
            those. who here is diligently minus - when your dad suddenly gets cancer. you will pray it is the Sodomist West, and not Russianness and Orthodoxy.
            1. 0
              19 January 2013 17: 30
              Quote: davoks
              those. who here is diligently minus

              you yourself diligently minus !!! With regards to the disease, I myself was very sick quite a while ago and helped in Russia .. Minus you for this
              Quote: davoks
              former Soviet professions are not needed here today. she had to work not on the profile. moved to Italy - work worthless. but pay with dignity. Is it chtoli Orthodox Russia without Sodom?

              They need professions here and pay well, and many receive no less than in Italy.
              By the way, I wasn’t in Italy, but there were acquaintances, and in the modern world, salaries are not great mysteries. Transfer how much you get into rubles. And I will give you our salaries.
              1. davoks
                -1
                19 January 2013 17: 37
                They pay no less, but just less than in Italy. I advise you to write less. My father was at death - and it was doctors from Naples who helped him, and not Orthodox priests from Russia. The fact that you were not in Italy is a no brainer. Once my two grandmothers got cancer - and they treated them in Russia. Both in the grave

                and PS. I myself can’t diligently minus myself. I advise you to think about your own cheers-patriotic behavior. when your dad gets cancer, maybe your brains will set
              2. +3
                19 January 2013 18: 48
                When Luzhkov saw Italians in Moscow, asphalting the streets in the Dynamo Stadium area (in my 1994). So the Italians go to us to earn money.
        3. davoks
          -1
          19 January 2013 17: 16
          Alexander Romanov. By the way, and you finally in courses how much in Italy receive? Have you ever been there at least once in your life?
          1. davoks
            0
            19 January 2013 17: 49
            someone who never in his life from Russia has shown his nose, and at the same time has not graduated from school, is very diligently minus. Hooray-patriot who did not serve in the army any campaign laughing
          2. davoks
            0
            19 January 2013 18: 06
            Alexander Romanov, can you do me a favor and not cry at me in pm? winked
            1. +3
              19 January 2013 18: 22
              Quote: davoks
              can you do me a favor and don’t cry in pm?

              Where? I’m putting the second one for you, that they don’t teach culture in Italy
              1. davoks
                -1
                19 January 2013 18: 28
                Alexander Romanov, why are you so fucking with me in pm? you write in general - here all your laughing

                I’ll leave it in your message, maybe it will finish at last. Are you not tired of swearing? So in PM you have two warnings for the mats, given your Italian culture in the morning you will be in the bathhouse.
                Signature-Alexander Romanov hi
  5. +9
    19 January 2013 08: 05
    Strongly written, and everything is correct.
    1. S_mirnov
      -2
      19 January 2013 14: 49
      In my opinion, the methods (like the article itself) are quite primitive. We presume that the task of the church is the transfer of spiritual values ​​through generations of Russian people (that which unites our people). Accordingly, those who want to destroy the Russian people as a people-must destroy the church.
      So, move by move: - we plant at the head of the Russian Orthodox Church a burnt shopkeeper with a dark past (it’s difficult to do, but with the power of the shopkeeper you can).
      - Torgash - he wants it or doesn’t want it, but he does a lot of actions compromising the Russian Orthodox Church.
      - We launch a company in Massmedia to cover all the negative facts of the Russian Orthodox Church. They come up with something, but against the general background of the corrupt leadership of the Russian Orthodox Church, it looks believable.
      - The Russian people are divided into two camps. The first - outraged by the venality of priests, against the Russian Orthodox Church (in its modern form). The second - those who feel threatened by the preservation of the traditions of the Russian people, stand up for the ROC (the traditional church in the best way).
      WE RECEIVE THE RESULT: The Russian people are divided into two warring camps, and the Russian Orthodox Church is rotting from the inside and does not unite the People.
      1. +5
        19 January 2013 16: 49
        Quote: S_mirnov
        So, move by move: - we plant at the head of the Russian Orthodox Church a burnt shopkeeper with a dark past

        To this you yourself in your komenta answered. Bullshit.
        Quote: S_mirnov
        RESULT: The Russian people are divided into two warring camps, and the Russian Orthodox Church - is rotting from the inside and does not unite the People.

        there are camps, I agree. Now on the site, some are in defense, others are watering with slops. But there is one BUT that no matter who says bad things about faith, there are more and more people in churches, not for the blues of corrupt journalists, they go to churches. And for salvation. So here Smirnov you are very mistaken, who hears, he hears hi
        1. davoks
          0
          19 January 2013 16: 59
          the last time was in the temple - there were about 10 people there somewhere
          1. +3
            19 January 2013 18: 07
            davoks,
            In the temple there are always crowds of people, do not break through. I don’t know whether it’s good or bad. He himself was brought up under the Communists, it is difficult to name believers, but I respect the faith of others. And I don’t bother others in the well.
            1. davoks
              0
              19 January 2013 18: 12
              I live in Ufa. in two temples of Ufa was. just such a pandemonium.,. and where can people not get through there? is it fantasy or what? noticed a person 10 maximum. and more candles for sale wink
        2. S_mirnov
          -3
          19 January 2013 18: 13
          "whoever says bad things about faith" - so about faith, no one says bad things, do you generally distinguish between the church, faith and God, or what?
          "there are more and more people in churches" - when the state ceases to protect its citizens, all that remains is to pray or take up the drin! Now the people first went to pray, but after they understand that it is useless - they will take up the drin! Then the fat-bellied priests will understand how much they were mistaken, history already knows examples! hi
          1. +3
            19 January 2013 20: 57
            "Do you generally make a difference between church, faith and God, or what?"
            The Church, faith, God - for the Orthodox person, these are dogmatic concepts reflected in the SYMBOL OF FAITH. They have an unbreakable connection between themselves. As a FAITH without a CHURCH, demons are often cited as examples. They also know that there is God, they are afraid of him and tremble before him. You, like all people, have a choice: with whom are you?
            1. S_mirnov
              -3
              20 January 2013 09: 54
              "You, like all people, have a choice: who are you with?" - a typical attempt to force to make a "false choice". It turns out if you believe in God, then acknowledge and kiss Gundyaev's hands, despite the fact that he is a swindler. And if you consider Gundyaev a swindler, then you are a Satanist!
              Let's put you a choice too - are you on the side of honest people or on the side of thieves?
              http://video.yandex.ru/users/marisha-matkovskaja/view/17/user-tag/%D0%B7%D0%B0%D
              0%BE%20%D1%80%D0%BF%D1%86/#
              1. +2
                20 January 2013 10: 01
                Quote: S_mirnov
                a typical attempt to force a "false choice" to be made. It turns out that if you believe in God, then acknowledge and kiss Gundyaev's hands, despite the fact that he is a swindler.

                Listen to Smirnov, stop talking nonsense, read the liberal press and custom articles, and you’re not talking about that. Look around, if the enemies are sitting in your church, I’m sorry for you !!!
                Quote: S_mirnov
                - Are you on the side of honest people or on the side of thieves

                Your liberals in the person of Nemtsov, Udaltsov, Kasparov beat their heels in the chest making declarations of their honesty. That's where they expose the Patriarch for American money,
                Maybe you wipe your eyes at last and start thinking
                1. S_mirnov
                  -1
                  20 January 2013 18: 36
                  "Your liberals in the person of Nemtsov, Udaltsov, Kasparov" again you are trying to piss me off to some murky people, do you have that the entire population of Russia is divided into Zastobilov and Zaudaltsovs?
                  And then the liberals are GDP, Chubais, Yeltsin, Gorbi — these are real liberals — a market economy, against state regulation, privatization of state property, and here Udaltsov, etc.
                  "they expose the Patriarch for American money" - it's enough to carry about American money (our stabilization fund has been forgotten where it is stored). If there were American money in the case, then these types were planted a long time ago, otherwise they only howl about America's hand, scarecrows are shorter, there is no evidence, in fact, everything is being conducted on the unfounded chatter of NTV.
                  Yes, and money is unnecessary to recognize who is leading our church.
                  http://demotivation.me/xqke1tdrxrxhpic.html читайте классиков. там в точности описана современная ситуация в России.
                  1. +3
                    21 January 2013 01: 06
                    They say about such people - at least there is a stake on his head. He’s all about one thing. Nm of logic, not his own mind, where he saw something, and is trying to prove
          2. bask
            +3
            19 January 2013 21: 11
            Quote: S_mirnov
            to greatly mistaken, history already knows examples!

            The history of the Second World War knows .. Lighting columns T-34 created with funds
            1. S_mirnov
              -1
              20 January 2013 09: 49
              I don’t argue, there are different priests, there were traitors,
              http://demotivation.me/bnifc85jtrlqpic.html
              there were patriots. Now, in my opinion, the authorities in the Russian Orthodox Church are traitors to the faith.
              Modern priests are jubilant to speculate on the theme of the Second World War, but priests on the front line can only be seen in modern cinema, where bandits and priests single-handedly defeat Hitler, and "atheists" commissars in every way prevent them from defending their homeland.
              In fact - the Communists were the first to attack - atheists by definition!
              1. +2
                20 January 2013 09: 57
                Quote: S_mirnov
                Now, in my opinion, the authorities in the Russian Orthodox Church are traitors to the faith.

                In your opinion, there is a significant minority of such opinions. You are as far from the Church as possible.
                Quote: S_mirnov
                only priests on the front line can be seen only in modern cinema, where bandits and priests single-handedly defeat Hitler, and “atheists” commissars of all kinds prevent them from defending their homeland.
                In fact - the Communists were the first to attack - atheists by definition!

                Have you been a member of World War II?
                1. S_mirnov
                  +1
                  20 January 2013 18: 39
                  "Were you a member of the Second World War?" -No and you?
                  But he studied a lot of literature about the Second World War, the memoirs of veterans (Artyom Drabkin has such a good series of books), So they don’t remember a single priest on the front line, only in the movies, Shtafbat, Svolochi and other libelous stories.
              2. consul
                +2
                20 January 2013 21: 57
                S_mirnov,

                speak in modern cinema?

                http://topwar.ru/7198-voyskovoy-svyaschennik-otec-kiprian_peresvet.html
                1. S_mirnov
                  -1
                  21 January 2013 23: 32
                  Thanks for the link, an interesting article about a real priest. I do not argue that there are real priests, I affirm that the authorities in the Russian Orthodox Church are right now. And it’s necessary to rot it ... a filthy broom, so that real priests can stand at the head of the church!
          3. Aleksandr2
            0
            7 November 2013 11: 57
            Hell is waiting for you
      2. +1
        21 January 2013 01: 02
        Just some geyropa agent. According to him, Russia has one enemy - Orthodoxy. and all the other spiritual friends
  6. merkel1961
    +14
    19 January 2013 08: 17
    We stand with a nuclear cudgel in one hand and a cross in the other. Western demons showed their heels in defending rabid pieces and in attacks on the Russian Orthodox Church, squealing in all parts as if they had torn their tails, but they had to break their horns, and even enrage yourself clean up.
    1. +1
      19 January 2013 08: 23
      Quote: merkel1961
      .... Western demons have shown their heels in defending raging little things and in attacks on the Russian Orthodox Church, ...

      Is it a hit !! There have been times in the history of Orthodoxy, dirty tricks and worse ..
      And this is so, small (in all respects ..) dirty tricks, small people ...
      1. +9
        19 January 2013 09: 42
        Quote: Bulls.
        There have been times in the history of Orthodoxy, dirty tricks and worse ..

        The most important dirty trick is the split of the ROC, for example, in Ukraine. The trouble is that many representatives who would be supposed to think about Vera think about personal power and enrichment. This is how the "Orthodox Churches of the Kiev Patriarchate" (which is not recognized throughout the world) and "Orthodox Churches of the Ukrainian Patriarchate" (an independent form of the Russian Orthodox Church) appear. At the same time, somehow receiving, or seizing the temples that were built by our ancestors not for them. And for the sake of these riches, Catholics have already been admitted to us, to Kiev, who are quickly building their churches, have opened a university, where they simply take everyone, provide "second-hand help" to their families (and many buy for this). The creeping hidden aggression continues!
        And yet .... Happy holiday to all of you!
        1. +3
          19 January 2013 11: 49
          Totally agree with you Elena. People standing now at the helm of the Orthodox Church, in my opinion, do it more evil than the enemy from the outside. What is Patriarch Kirril essentially doing? Knocking out tax breaks on the sale of tobacco and alcohol products .. According to Forbes, the top ten millionaires. This, like many other things, undermines the foundations and faith. and ride the best cars of the decaying West, or as they say in the article of the New Soddom. That's where the root of evil ...
          ALL ORTHODOXISTS WITH A LIGHT HOLIDAY! PEACE TO YOU AND WELL-BEING!
          1. Svobodny
            +5
            19 January 2013 13: 02
            Quote: morpex
            ... Knocks out tax breaks on the sale of tobacco and alcohol products .. According to Forbes in the top ten ...

            Marine, dear! You repeat the same fable that propagandists put into your head from the same West that you just swore.

            If we are Orthodox, then we must remember the words of the Symbol of Faith: "I believe in One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church." And if I believe, then I respect and protect. Why oppose your own Church and its ministers, the vast majority of whom are honest and decent people, who do not acquire untold riches and are not at all greedy for money, as the narrow-minded brainwashers who denigrate the Church strive to present them.
            1. Fox
              -1
              19 January 2013 15: 08
              Quote: Svobodny
              the vast majority of which are people who are honest and decent

              I’m probably very upset, but personally I know a lot of priests, who do not differ in honesty, and those who refused to steal were expelled under various pretexts.
              1. +4
                19 January 2013 19: 48
                Quote: Fox
                I personally know many priests who are not distinguished by honesty,

                but how can pop steal, and what can he steal? it’s immediately clear that they don’t know how they get money
              2. +2
                20 January 2013 05: 28
                Quote: Fox
                I’m probably very upset, but personally I know a lot of priests,

                Even many, you can name them in order not to be unfounded.
              3. Aleksandr2
                0
                7 November 2013 12: 03
                It is unlikely .
          2. +5
            19 January 2013 16: 52
            Quote: morpex
            According to Forbes in the top ten millionaires.

            Believe Forbes?
            Quote: morpex
            People standing at the helm of the Orthodox Church, in my opinion, do it more evil,

            If you read custom articles, you will think so.
            Quote: morpex
            The fish rots from the head, and therefore the priests of the seediest parish build their own horoi and ride the best cars of the decaying West

            The cars go luxury from the state, except for those that some of the fallen buy for themselves. The fallen are everywhere, including in the church, but their significant minority
          3. +8
            19 January 2013 19: 45
            Quote: morpex
            According to Forbes in the top ten millionaires.


            You better read the gospel, and not gossip on Forbes
          4. Oleg Rosskiyy
            +1
            20 January 2013 23: 38
            morpex,
            Thank you for the congratulations, but otherwise, you must first start with yourself. And remember, humiliating anyone, especially by someone’s order or lying somewhere, you will never gain respect for yourself. When you come to church, a person comes to God first of all, and I don’t care what Patriarch Cyril rides, and what kind of watch wears, this is actually his right. After all, Belolentochnye ferrets don’t also drive a Lada, and they don’t have a cheaper watch than the Patriarch’s, and they’re ready to sell Russian orphans over a hill, so why do you deprive them of their attention, there was no order from the Western owners?
    2. Svobodny
      +3
      19 January 2013 13: 18
      Quote: merkel1961
      With a nuclear club in one hand and a cross in the other

      The main thing is that with Christ in hearts
  7. VESHA1957
    +4
    19 January 2013 08: 21
    And there were people at the same time not in the present tribe! wassat
  8. +2
    19 January 2013 08: 28
    Here is another article http://www.sdelanounih.ru/preddverie-ada-eto-raj-zapadnogo-obrazca/ For this article, plus.
  9. Sasha
    +3
    19 January 2013 08: 33
    God is with us (with Russia), and I didn’t say that ...
    1. bask
      +12
      19 January 2013 09: 39
      Quote: Sashok

      God is with us (with Russia), and I didn’t say that ...

      It is necessary to unite all the Russian Orthodox and Patriots of Russia .. Because the enemies of external and internal Russia has a lot ... IF WE DO NOT UNITE US .........
      1. +3
        19 January 2013 09: 45
        God is with us! And he is really with us, everyone in a limitless Russian soul!
  10. +11
    19 January 2013 08: 43
    But!
    If it is really written by an Austrian, then I take off my hat.
    Recently, materials are increasingly appearing indicating that there are sane people in Europe.
    All is said correctly.
    The seed of the horde is sharpening us
    Basurman yokes us
    But in our veins boils
    The sky of the Slavs.
    Russia is the only bastion of humanity on earth.
    To make it.
    1. +5
      19 January 2013 08: 51
      Quote: volkan
      If it is really written by an Austrian, then take off my hat

      Hi Andrew. At our site, Heinrich Rupert, he is German and lives in Germany, but read his posts and understand that the majority of people and politicians live with different ideals.
      1. +2
        19 January 2013 09: 11
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Hi Andrew. At our site, Heinrich Rupert, he is German and lives in Germany, but read his posts and understand that the majority of people and politicians live with different ideals.


        Hello Alexander.
        I readily believe. But then it is not clear to me. After all, Europe professes the principle of democracy, which means the will of the people. Well, at least they say so. And from this two things follow. Either all this "dirt" is really the choice of the majority of Europeans, or they do NOT have democracy at all.
        If this is the choice of the majority, then having a small number of sane people will not change the situation.
        And if they have absolutely NOT democracy, then nefig constantly teach us life.
        1. +2
          19 January 2013 09: 25
          Quote: volkan
          After all, Europe professes the principle of democracy, which means the will of the people.

          Democracy is a sign, it’s like taking a credit on a card, in words one thing, but when I took %%%% then I understood.
          Quote: volkan
          whether this is the choice of the majority, the presence of a small number of sane people will not change the situation.

          in my opinion, this is not the case. There is no unity in society, people are turned into consumers, even understanding what is happening it is difficult for the country to change the situation. Fear of losing a job, being driven into debt and all that. In essence, people are driven into the corner by laws adopted by the minority.
          1. +1
            19 January 2013 13: 46
            Alexander Romanov,
            Then Alexander will sooner or later have a revolution. When the patience of normal Europeans runs out, inquisitorial fires will be lit in Europe.
            And I can’t even say that I condemn this. Although at this moment it is difficult to imagine the ratio of normal Europeans to abnormal.
  11. +4
    19 January 2013 08: 44
    Our people are the most valuable thing that we have. Our people are purer in soul, you can come to visit, talk without help, in trouble. And Russia with its open spaces is simply indescribable. We only litter this very nature.
    You come to a pond before settling down, you remove rubbish, heaps of garbage everywhere. Here we are far from Europe, it’s all that we have this nature to wander off. I hope that the awareness of preserving nature will come with time, but it would be better Now, our children will have to spend half their lives collecting rubbish, which we have piled in abundance.
  12. fenix57
    +2
    19 January 2013 08: 55
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    this with the blasphemers from the punk band PR. This is also the path to perdition.

    Very little was given. Remember the story of the murder of the AMBASSADOR of the Americans because of the x / f. And we have........ angry
    1. +5
      19 January 2013 09: 00
      Quote: fenix57
      Very little given

      Well, how much they gave, so much they gave. The sad thing is that Mr. Liberal Medvedev, for the sake of seeming good to the West, says to the whole country that they need to be let go. If you let go of them with a loss of citizenship. Let them go to Europe, only they don’t need anyone there. They will work in a brothel, although they don’t get used to it
      1. +2
        19 January 2013 12: 08
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        They will work in a brothel, although they’re not used to it

        Hello Sasha! There are plenty of their own wink , so for these girls vacancies in brothels are unforeseen, except perhaps for "shoulder" ones on the Autobahn Yes
        1. +2
          19 January 2013 16: 54
          Quote: Tersky
          what for these job girls in brothels

          Hi Vitya, they’ll go to a party, work, there’s a lot, wah
      2. +1
        20 January 2013 08: 56
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The sad thing is that Mr. Liberal Medvedev, for the sake of seeming good to the West, says to the whole country that they need to be let go. If you let go of them, then they lose their citizenship.

        And here I agree completely. Stick them out here, to which thread Poland (although they won’t be taken there, there they will be pulled out for such filipers in the cosmos church before the arrival of the policies). Where??? probably it’s better to go to Holland, they will be street breweries, and in winter they will live in a shelter for the homeless ... until it gets warmer in the parks.
  13. +4
    19 January 2013 08: 55
    Cross yourself, cry, mature and be proud! One word "RUS" instills pride in the soul! The mind cannot understand Russia, one can only believe in it!
  14. +2
    19 January 2013 09: 06
    Almost all vices and mortal sins are approved and promoted by society. The commandments of God are actually canceled by the ruling oligarchy, which set its eerie standards there. Western life has become a kind of parody of Christianity. This is the essence of Satanism, because the devil always tries to parody God.

    Very true and strong!
  15. Drappier
    +13
    19 January 2013 09: 08
    There is an opinion that this is true.
    1. bask
      +5
      19 January 2013 10: 24
      Quote: Drapper
      There is an opinion that this is true.

      On their ,,, opinion, one can’t give a damn ...
  16. vladsolo56
    +1
    19 January 2013 09: 08
    Agitation is not the best, I will not argue about the issue of resettlement, there are those who return to Russia, but certainly not because there is Orthodoxy and true faith.
    1. 0
      20 January 2013 14: 51
      But how do you comment on the fact that in Europe, the patrimony of Catholicism and Protestantism, glorious communities and parishes appear? At the same time, they are not immigrants from the countries of the former USSR and ask for under the wing of the Russian Orthodox Church? Apparently they are striving for Putin and not for the Orthodox faith ????
  17. ytqnhfk
    0
    19 January 2013 09: 09
    almost everything is correct only false all this is not this aunt and everything else yes it is definitely present but our church is only a pump from the people there is no help in the hospital who was not helped anyone except "God will help" do not wait for anything! ride priests? in such a year, you need to buy, and only about gifts, do not rub these gifts in me, these gifts can be redirected can be given to disabled people, large families and just to redirect something to the altar, so we also have big problems with this
    1. +8
      19 January 2013 09: 18
      Quote: ytqnhfk
      only false all this is not this aunt

      Give a link or just to say so?
      Quote: ytqnhfk
      but our church is just a pump from the people there is no help, no one is put in the hospital, no one is helped, no one except "God will help" do not expect anything!

      Lying!!! A student with a little sister lives in Khabarovsk, the debt for an apartment is about 120 thousand (if the Khayarovites made a mistake, the horseradish state helped. The energy companies refused to write off the debt. Today, the debt was paid by order of the Patriarch! And how do you know that they don’t help in hospitals, if the media don’t get it, this means that it’s not.
      Quote: ytqnhfk
      just don’t rub me about gifts; these gifts can be redirected to disabled people with many children and just redirect something to the altar, so we have big problems with this

      Many cars are purchased from the state, which, with regard to gifts, is sent and not enough. Only how many priests are in the country, but how many officials. Prohibit officials from buying Mercians at the budget account and there will be enough money for more than one family.
      1. +7
        19 January 2013 10: 16
        http://top.rbc.ru/society/28/12/2012/838975.shtml
        Alexander, follow the link, please read. A plot on this subject a couple of months ago hooked on TV, I don’t remember the channel, but I think you can find it on YouTube (I didn’t look for it myself). It can be assumed that the media denigrate the Russian Orthodox Church by order, but I have experience with these comrades in everyday life. Disappointed. Moreover, I worked with their children; upbringing confused me very much. I clarify - faith in my God has not been shaken, but there is no faith in the servants ... Your examples have a place to be, but unfortunately they are lost on the general background ... (I’m silent about officials, I don’t want to scam the keyboard with a word)
        I would like to comment on the excerpt from the article to which I gave the link:
        ... "As a rule, commenting on such incidents, the Russian Orthodox Church emphasizes that the perpetrators of traffic accidents in holy dignity at the time of the accident are not on duty, which means that the church cannot take any punitive measures without the serious consequences of the emergency."
        And I thought that God is not being served according to the schedule, but no, at the time of the accident - not at the service ...
        My opinion, it may not coincide with yours ...
        1. ytqnhfk
          +1
          19 January 2013 11: 00
          glad to see that not everyone lives without analysis in my head
        2. +3
          19 January 2013 17: 00
          Quote: Slavs
          My opinion, it may not coincide with yours ...

          But from what, in many ways you are right, there are those for whom the cassock is the way to a beautiful life, there are such people. At the same time, for the most part (I know many personally) they honestly serve according to their calling. I personally came across the Mark of the Khabarovsk diocese and I saw that he divided people by their clothes and status. Thank God they removed him. But many who served next to him were from another test. hi
          1. +3
            19 January 2013 17: 28
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            there are those for whom the cassock is the path to a beautiful life, there are such.


            I welcome you to Alexander!
            In my understanding, any clergyman should live the life of an ascetic in worldly life!

            postcrypto
            Dear moderator, this is not about you!
            1. +1
              19 January 2013 17: 34
              Quote: Apollon
              In my understanding, any clergyman should live the life of an ascetic in worldly life!

              Hi Apollo, the world has changed around, this whole life has become our everyday life. Ascetic, I think, understood that it’s not about him. It’s not just that he took such a nickname.
              1. +2
                19 January 2013 17: 43
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                the world has changed around, this whole life has become our daily routine. Ascetic think I realized that this is not about him. Not just he took such a nickname.


                I understand of course that the clergyman should not ride a scooter, but modesty also adorns. As for our Stanislav, in my opinion he took this nickname for a reason, it makes a lot of sense!
                1. +2
                  19 January 2013 17: 53
                  Quote: Apollon
                  I understand, of course, that the clergyman should not ride a scooter, but modesty also adorns

                  To a simple clergyman, yes, with regards to the patriarch, he is guarded and the vehicles are respectively armored from the state. Many people pay attention to this without going into the essence.
                  1. 0
                    19 January 2013 17: 58
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    the patriarch is guarded and the vehicles are respectively armored from the state. Many people pay attention to this without going into the essence.


                    the patriarch needs to be protected. Here there can be no questions about the other, as one broke a wheelbarrow while intoxicated.
    2. +1
      19 January 2013 09: 26
      When was the last time you were in church?
      1. +1
        19 January 2013 09: 32
        Quote: Marrying
        When was the last time you were in church?

        Eugene, you write to whom you are addressing, otherwise I don’t understand who the question is.
        1. +1
          19 January 2013 09: 43
          Good morning Alexander, happy holiday to you. I turned to "ytqnhfk" with this question :)
          1. +2
            19 January 2013 09: 48
            Quote: Marrying
            Happy holiday to you.

            Mutually Eugene!
            Quote: Marrying
            I turned to "ytqnhfk" with this question :)

            OK, got it.
      2. ytqnhfk
        +3
        19 January 2013 10: 11
        prayer is necessary always and not only in church commandments always work and not like Uzbeks at night does not see it, you need to live in your heart with God always and not on Sundays and services! the temple must be in your soul and bring this temple to life like that!
    3. Svobodny
      +2
      19 January 2013 10: 48
      Quote: ytqnhfk
      the church is just a pump from the people there is no help there is no one who was put in the hospital who was not helped anyone but "God will help" do not expect anything

      go here and look !! http://predanie.ru/ The church is people, and people help each other not in words but in deeds. And do not need about cars, watches, pumps, please.
      1. ytqnhfk
        +1
        19 January 2013 11: 09
        NO people are people and the church is the church. I know a lot of people who always go to the service, and envy and pride are at the heart of the consciousness and upbringing of children in their family and the condemnation of their loved ones as judges!
        1. consul
          +2
          20 January 2013 22: 36
          ytqnhfk,
          The church is the believers, and the temple is the place where the Church gathers for divine services. The most important service is the Liturgy into Russian is translated "common cause." There is a social department in the churches of our region - they help large families, sick (hospital), old people (nursing home ), mothers who refuse to kill their child (for this they go and dissuade them from this crime), cooperate with the military registration and enlistment office (we do not have a military unit). They help in educating cadets in the corps (classes are conducted by a priest who lost a leg in a battle near Karamakhi). Maybe you should look around better? Well, to see more.
      2. +1
        19 January 2013 11: 58
        I went to the tradition.ru, people really help ... People, and the church only collects ... In stores there are urns for donations, grannies throw coins there ... I always wondered why the urn would not be put at the store owner in the office on the table? Let the oligarchs pay tithing to the church, they won’t lose it, and the church fairly distributes it among the needy, they themselves don’t need much, they gain holiness in asceticism ... Or am I a lost sheep, don’t know what I'm saying? ...
    4. +2
      20 January 2013 14: 55
      the priest of our parish transfers alms to donations, and I didn’t notice a Mercedes from him, how will you comment on this? say one such one?
  18. +8
    19 January 2013 09: 11
    Who puts the cons there, let's the Slavs, tell me, what did you dislike about the article or does it really hurt your eyes?
  19. fenix57
    +2
    19 January 2013 09: 11
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    They will work in a brothel, although they’re not used to it

    Spent material. They have such rubbish ... nowhere to go [/ Color]
  20. +2
    19 January 2013 09: 23
    Judging by the reaction to the article - With a nuclear club in one hand and a cross in the other, in the harmonious ranks of the Union of Michael the Archangel, a clear revival!
    The article is a fake, a low-quality "order". Ears grow, most likely, from here:
    1. +8
      19 January 2013 09: 29
      Quote: Ward # 6
      Judging by the reaction to the article - With a nuclear club in one hand and a cross in the other, there is a clear revival in the orderly ranks of the Union of Michael the Archangel! The article is a fake, a low-quality "order".

      As I understand it, at the mention of the Church, Faith, Orthodoxy becomes bad for you, or what I did not understand?
      1. ytqnhfk
        0
        19 January 2013 09: 42
        no, it’s not bad with these opportunities, not in Khabarovsk and not a student, but in the line of church politics, you need to consider and help (plus what not to a grandmother but a student?) Let them work and not look at clubs 120 tons for a month before and not for a year! ! With the scale of the church, you need to build a hospital and treat at least children there for free! The recognition of rightness is also power and not fanatical cries of Sasha!
        1. +6
          19 January 2013 09: 53
          Quote: ytqnhfk
          (plus what not to the grandmother but to the student?) Let them work and not go to clubs to look at each other 120 tons for not a month before and not for a year !!

          Oh, how cool you are. Even without delving into the matter. She got burned in a year. Parents died, but she didn’t send her sister to the orphanage, so that she wouldn’t stop her from going to clubs. She works and studies, but she’s not enough.
          Quote: ytqnhfk
          with the scale of the church, hospitals need to be built and there at least children are treated free

          You saw the accounting of the parishes, often collected bit by bit for temple repairs. Should the state deal with hospitals or does it have no time for mortals to think about us?
          1. ytqnhfk
            +2
            19 January 2013 10: 04
            Sasha, I know this place from the inside, I don’t advise getting on such a thing that I got on as faith remained in me, only God knows it’s clear he’s brought me there! I don’t want to argue with you because of my conclusions and analysis of those who serve the god of everyone I’m rowing almost saints to them, I’ll worship, they’re not servants, they are servants of God! You’ll see a lot if you open your eyes to a student, she’s really lucky a person needs to know and respect
          2. AndreyAB
            +1
            19 January 2013 11: 53
            I agree, and God is not in the church, but in the soul of everyone and in the church, a believer brings these grains to God and not to the priest.
      2. bask
        0
        19 January 2013 10: 06
        [media = http: //video.yandex.ru/#search? text = exorcism% 20video & where = all & id = 265617
        52-01-12http: //]
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        As I understand it, at the mention of the Church, Faith, Orthodoxy becomes bad for you, or what I did not understand?

        ,, demons ,, sit in a man .. Need help
      3. bask
        +9
        19 January 2013 10: 35
        Do not forget to dial, SAINT WATER ... It costs a whole year and does not deteriorate .... THIS IS NOT a confirmation that the SAVIOR has accepted, THANKS THE HOLY SPIRIT. AND UNITED THE DIVINE AND HUMAN BEGINNING OF THE SAVIOR ... GOD FORGIVEN THE PEOPLE !!! LORD ... !!!!
      4. +3
        19 January 2013 10: 37
        or what I did not understand?
        Do not understand! Bad - when Vera merges with what is in the photo!
        With regard to the Church - personally, I do not need such a mediator between me and God, which is now the ROC, headed by a "Breguet-bearer"!
    2. AndreyAB
      0
      19 January 2013 11: 51
      Of course, I understand that any manifestation of Slavic, Russian, Orthodox, and any other that speaks of us as a great people in an environment such as you causes only such associations as in your picture, such as your homeland where it is better fed and a warm closet, note not made by you, and the word Homeland, your ancestors do not say anything to you, moreover, you are trying to misinterpret for the sake of some owners having a tambourine interest too.
  21. +8
    19 January 2013 09: 40
    The article is correct. The author has great respect!
    Question: "Who put the minus to the article?"
    All Orthodox with the great feast of Baptism!
    1. -1
      19 January 2013 10: 24
      Question: "Who put the minus to the article?"
      Well, I set. What's next?
      1. Aleksandr2
        0
        7 November 2013 12: 17
        And then do not be saved
    2. vladsolo56
      +1
      19 January 2013 10: 28
      Well, I bet and I’m not hiding, only one thing strikes me, you believe, so you believe in your health, you don’t have to get in everywhere and call everyone into your society, I’m an atheist and why I don’t write articles like: people don’t go to religion to deceive you there . Often there is a saying: Insulting the feelings of believers, why there are no statements about insulting the feelings of atheists, when believers in the streets and in the press actually insult atheists.
      1. +3
        19 January 2013 12: 52
        Quote: AK-74-1
        Question: "Who put the minus to the article?"

        And I set, though not an atheist. He plunged into Jordan today, but only the servants of the Russian Orthodox Church in Cayenne and in gold were not there. Simple Russian people did everything themselves, at the call of the heart and a spiritual impulse.
        A minus article for the substitution of Holy Russia religion and the Russian Orthodox Church in particular. Russia was, is and will be regardless of whether we rally around the patriarch. Faith is not in the Church, Faith is in the Soul
        1. -1
          20 January 2013 05: 31
          Quote: AK-74-1
          Question: "Who put the minus to the article?"
          And I set, though not an atheist. He plunged into Jordan today, but only the servants of the Russian Orthodox Church in Cayenne and in gold were not there. Simple Russian people did everything themselves, at the call of the heart and a spiritual impulse.
          A minus article for the substitution of Holy Russia religion and the Russian Orthodox Church in particular. Russia was, is and will be regardless of whether we rally around the patriarch. Faith is not in the Church, Faith is in the Soul

          HIGH PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT +
        2. Aleksandr2
          0
          7 November 2013 12: 19
          Faith without a church
      2. +4
        19 January 2013 17: 08
        Quote: vladsolo56
        so believe in your health, no, you have to climb in everywhere and call everyone into your society,

        Why not or is there an article about faith every day? once a week an article has passed and that makes you feel bad. Don’t read and don’t read everything !!!
        1. Evgeny B.
          +4
          19 January 2013 19: 02
          Alexander, the more articles on faith will be here, the less will be enraged on our website. For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland !!!
          1. -2
            20 January 2013 13: 34
            For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland !!! for Russia!
          2. ytqnhfk
            -2
            20 January 2013 13: 47
            the king is here with it, or is it not enough for you? about demons I will say so the demon is in ourselves and we ourselves must get rid of it!
        2. vladsolo56
          -2
          19 January 2013 21: 02
          And here and in other sites and in the media it’s full, by the way, don’t read about it, the church and the faithful are full of sites, but this is not enough for someone to get in everywhere to teach everyone
          1. +2
            20 January 2013 05: 38
            Quote: vladsolo56
            it’s necessary to fit in all live to teach

            Are you forced to read?
            1. +2
              20 January 2013 11: 14
              Priests stand at his door and call to go to the site and read))))) Well, if Vera is jarring you, write an article on scientific atheism, with evidence that there is no god, backed up by the latest achievements in quantum mechanics chemistry physics, and we pleasure to read and express our opinion.
      3. Aleksandr2
        0
        7 November 2013 12: 18
        And you do not read
  22. SEM
    SEM
    +2
    19 January 2013 10: 16
    It is very important that people begin to understand the essence of what is happening in the world and draw the right conclusions when choosing faith in Christ to save souls and holy Russia!
  23. isp96
    +2
    19 January 2013 10: 17
    if God is with us, then who is against?! it doesn’t matter who the author is, it’s important that the essence of the issue is revealed from time to time. the author simply drew a line, on the one hand we and they are voting, citizens !!! let it be yes and no no !!! to the author who would he not be 1000 pluses.
  24. fenix57
    +4
    19 January 2013 10: 20
    Quote: bask
    BAPTISM IS LORD !!!! ALL FROM HOLIDAY. May GOD help us !!!!!

    HE IS WITH US !!!!! soldier
    1. bask
      +5
      19 January 2013 12: 00
      Quote: fenix57
      HE IS WITH US !!!!!

      Without a doubt, GOD IS WITH US .. ..That is why the Satanist of Brzezinski and his followers so hate Orthodoxy .. GOD is their judge ...
      1. vladsolo56
        +2
        19 January 2013 21: 07
        By the way, German soldiers had an inscription on their buckles: "God is with us" or you have different gods
        1. Aleksandr2
          0
          7 November 2013 12: 21
          I did not try to be treated
  25. botur2013
    +5
    19 January 2013 10: 29
    All with the holiday of BAPTISM.
  26. avt
    +7
    19 January 2013 11: 10
    The author uses his head for its intended purpose - thinks! This is good, a matter of respect! Unfortunately, many people think with their stomachs.
  27. +10
    19 January 2013 11: 16
    All believers on the occasion of the Epiphany! ..

    And taperech directly to the material ... I read it once ... well, it seems like it is correctly written. And beautiful...
    I read it a second time, and then re-read ...

    Well, a foreigner who moved to Russia several years ago cannot write like that. Only a man brought up in Orthodoxy can write this way, and brought up from childhood ... What can not be if we take on faith the version in the Austrian origin of the author ...
    Or this item is made to order. Sometimes, the author is replayed in turns, and this is either fanaticism or incontinence in phraseology ...
    So the material is a minus ... As Stanislavsky would say: “I don’t believe!” ... I don’t believe the material and the sincerity of its author (if someone suddenly has a desire to cling to these words) ...

    I can say one more thing - there are very, very few sincere believers in our country. The majority talk about faith and go to church because "it is necessary." Because "it has become accepted." Take a closer look at those in the church. Most of them are just "candlesticks" ...
    1. ytqnhfk
      +2
      19 January 2013 11: 28
      I am glad that your hairstyle is not a decoration. Congratulations on a great holiday.
    2. 0
      19 January 2013 11: 30
      Take a closer look at those in the church. Most of them are just "candlesticks" ...
      Unfortunately, this is so ...
      However, all with Baptism!
    3. -1
      20 January 2013 11: 12
      about the fact that this article is not foreigners is not a fact, in the West there are many people who sincerely want to return to Orthodoxy, and even ask our church to open parishes there, but our church does not open because it fears that Catholics will come to us, so as not to provoke so to speak, well, and the second argument is if a person reached the point of pro-glorification in the West, if he decided to take such a step as leaving Europe, where the bears drink vodka on the streets, this says that the person is extremely unusual and gifted for western society as a gifted in one gifted in many ways.
  28. s1н7т
    -10
    19 January 2013 11: 36
    The notes are crazy! fool
    1. bask
      +3
      19 January 2013 11: 51
      Quote: c1n7

      The notes are crazy!

      Write something new ....... Jew ... and then continuous repetitions .... Jammed ????
      1. s1н7т
        +1
        19 January 2013 12: 10
        Since when am I a Jew ?! laughing laughing laughing
        You have a sore imagination - does not bother?
        But it’s not me who stuck, but those dolbokhbov who are stubbornly trying to replace ideology with a primitive religion, and history with vinaigrette from orthodox bullshit.
        1. 0
          19 January 2013 20: 46
          You are the enemy of our faith, you would be in Kashchenko.
          1. bask
            0
            19 January 2013 20: 52
            Quote: Marrying
            her faith, you would be in Kashchenko.

            He was already there ... It didn’t help .. A difficult and neglected case ... hi
    2. stranik72
      +2
      19 January 2013 14: 10
      In any case, it (according to your version, insanity) is not directed against someone, it is directed for the good, for faith in something good is good.
    3. Oleg Rosskiyy
      0
      21 January 2013 00: 07
      Quote: c1n7
      The notes are crazy!

      Have you ever been promised eternal life? Do not flatter yourself.
  29. +3
    19 January 2013 12: 26
    Whom does the bell ring? Let Europe not forget about it, true article or not - what difference does it make, all the described lies
  30. Bandera
    +6
    19 January 2013 12: 52
    Strange, very strange feelings after reading.
    The author falls to extremes, seeing only black and white. I understand that I want to finally find a meaning for myself in this life.
    But when Maria Kempfer speaks of the sodomites and lusts of Western civilization, she is silent about our spiritual shepherds, whom they really are not. Praise God among our clerics there is no sodomy, but there is worship of the golden calf.
    Unfortunately, the Orthodox Church has turned into several CJSCs "Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate", "Orthodox Church of the Kiev Patriarchate", "Ukrainian Autocephalous Church", "Georgian Orthodox Church", etc.
    Having enormous moral and material resources, our church does not heal society, does not engage in spiritual training of the whole people, does not strengthen society.
    People looking for a spiritual haven go to the temple, but they face perversion of rituals (New Year trees in the temple), trade (candles bought elsewhere by God are not accepted!), The greed of priests (rent of ponds, construction sites, new cars). And most importantly, when you turn to the priest for help, he has a prepared phrase for all cases, "The Lord's ways are inscrutable."
    Every day in newspapers, public transport, the Internet and from acquaintances I see people's prizes for help in treating children. But because of our own powerlessness and limited financial resources we consider ourselves a nonentity and an impersonal being who cannot help a loved one.
    1. +2
      20 January 2013 05: 41
      Quote: Bandera
      ). And most importantly, when you turn to the priest for help, he has a prepared phrase for all cases, "The Lord's ways are inscrutable."

      They never respond to those who ask for help. There is an opportunity to help, if not, they say so.
  31. djon3volta
    +4
    19 January 2013 13: 21
    Today I watched TV about the besieged Leningrad dok.film on TV, one grandfather told me there, he was a boy then, and in the blockade they stole bread cards with their mother, and now they sit at home and burn books to keep them warm, and when the boy took out the last a book, behind it he found a package with two kg of lentils .. where the groats came from, they still didn’t understand .. after that his mother, a Komsomol member, who naturally did not believe in God, began to be baptized and say thank God ..
    Here and so.
    I think those same pusi vrot who danced in the temple, secretly, in their minds, prayed to God that they would not be imprisoned, and now they pray to God that their prisoners would not bang .. I must whisper to myself, "God, if only we were not killed, god save me "... only they will never admit it.
  32. +9
    19 January 2013 13: 37
    Sucks there however! With juvenile terror, gender parents and gay parades!
  33. wax
    +2
    19 January 2013 13: 54
    Too agitation. It seems correct, but not filled with vitality. Just like first and last name: Maria Kempfer.
  34. stranik72
    +2
    19 January 2013 14: 22
    The author is essentially an idealist, everything is much more complicated, the antichrist is not in the west (real demons rule the world there), the antichrist is sitting in our heads. The basis of the Russian state and its faith is the people, it has become so customary in Russia ((and not only) that the village is the most prominent bearer of faith and traditions. And there, in principle, today, almost all the underworld, and without the rise of the Russian (Slavic) village, we We won’t create Russia either Orthodox, strong or successful, and the West, well, the West, we’ve been on the verge of war or war with him almost all our life, while the Russian (Ukrainian and Belorussian) people were healthy, they got through the nose. As soon as we got sick unbelief, where we are today.
  35. fenix57
    +3
    19 January 2013 14: 40
    Quote: Wax
    Too agitation. It seems correct, but not filled with vitality.

    But how, you, this: O Russia, flap your wings,
    Put another lining!
    With different names
    A different steppe rises. Enough to rot and nyut,
    And glorify take off
    Washed away, erased the tar
    Risen Russia.

    Already led wings
    Her mute support!
    With different names
    A different steppe rises. hi
  36. +1
    19 January 2013 14: 43
    There is something to think about in this article. Only one thing the author forgets: Vera and the Russian Orthodox Church are two different things. You can believe and not go to church. But the Russian Orthodox Church did not give a license to Orthodoxy. And legends go about the sanctity of its ministers! What a patriarch’s watch is worth! What about tobacco business? And the sacraments for a fee? The current Russian Orthodox Church is a bureaucratic organization and is no better than the Catholic Church, although more modestly.
    1. YuDDP
      0
      21 January 2013 01: 01
      aviamed90, 90 in nickname is the year of birth? It can be seen. Youthful nihilism. It will pass.
  37. +1
    19 January 2013 15: 45
    We love to talk about the fact that we are more spiritual than those in the West. Where do we get so many orphans from? Why, seeing a person lying on the street, most pass by. Nowadays, enterprises are under pressure on robots, they are forced to work more - for less money, and at the same time they are doing away with why they do not form independent trade unions, but in our blood there is a spirit of collectivism and collegiality. Ah, in Zapvda Sodom and Gomorrah, and us drunkenness and total theft. You read online forums and think about giving these people weapons in their hands, they will shoot each other.
    Here in the states there are such centers where people can bring second-hand things, old household appliances. money - and all this is distributed among the poor. Do we have something like that? Well yes, but what about the garbage barrels?
    We believe that we are very special, "Russian soul", we will die for the Motherland but will not surrender. And the Germans in Berlin at 45 - everything is already a collapse, it is stupid to resist, there is no chance - are they not special?
    It is necessary to restore order in oneself, and they will sort it out themselves. We are not better and not bad, we are just different. But at the heart of everything is the same. Create a family, healthy children, the necessary wealth. Like in the song:
    I have never been overseas
    A habitual thought comforts a heart
    There is the same blue sky
    And the same difficult life

    Maybe there is more fun and richer
    Brighter than paint and summer warmer
    Only the same way they cry from pain
    Also in torment give birth to children.
    1. YuDDP
      +1
      21 January 2013 01: 06
      Uzoliv,
      in the states on weekends, Americans throw out all the junk on the lawn in front of the house and SELL it. This is their folk tradition. It can be seen that you were “not overseas”
  38. -1
    19 January 2013 15: 48
    on Palm Sunday in Izhevs we saw a priest on a Toyota Camri
    and immediately the question arose of how faith in God and a business class limousine are connected
    as far as I remember Christ didn’t ride limousines but basically
    moved on his own two
    1. Svobodny
      +1
      19 January 2013 18: 39
      Quote: kostyanich
      how faith in god and business class limousine are related
      That's it, that absolutely nothing. Christ did not forbid to drive a car. And there is nothing surprising and seditious if individual (their units) of priests suddenly appear more expensive than your car.
    2. Oleg Rosskiyy
      0
      21 January 2013 00: 12
      Quote: kostyanich
      as far as I remember Christ didn’t ride limousines but basically
      moved on his own two

      Forgive me, I’m interested in how old you are, go to 2013. Everyone will be rewarded according to his deserts, if your life is not going well, then maybe you should think that you are doing something wrong?
    3. YuDDP
      0
      21 January 2013 01: 09
      KostyanichCamry is not a business class, it is just a good big car for a fair price.
  39. +3
    19 January 2013 15: 50
    The author wrote everything correctly.
    God bless you.

    Happy Epiphany!
  40. vedruss
    0
    19 January 2013 16: 54
    Russia is alive, contrary to religions.
    Today's church has discredited itself.
    And people "hold the sky", pray for Russia.
    Real people, real, bright ...
    The West is a trap.
    Russia is the soul of the world.
  41. itkul
    -6
    19 January 2013 19: 01
    I liked the video footsteps and cardinal, there ass on a sticker on Mercedes
    stuck
  42. patriot2
    +8
    19 January 2013 21: 24
    I read the comments, but how many people - so many opinions.
    For some reason, confession (otherwise you will not name) Maria Kempfer told about her difficult journey to Russia, to Orthodoxy and the Great Russian People. Only in Russia did she find herself in this world, neither in the states nor in Europe.
    Happiness to you - Maria!
    Happy Great Baptism Daysmile
  43. +2
    19 January 2013 23: 52
    Put article plus. The article is excellent.
    I agree on all the positions of the author.
    As long as there is a Russian Orthodox Church, Russia will be alive.
    Russia drank its test bowl in the twentieth century, in the twenty-first century the turn of the West.
  44. +1
    20 January 2013 00: 38
    Yes, not everything is good in Europe. And you try not to run away and continue to live in good conscience, and to educate your children like that, and to maintain dignity and faith! And preach your ideals, and set an example with your life.
    I have said this many times and I will repeat it again - not all freaks and perverts are here!
    And let me remind you: "Do not judge, but you will not be judged."
  45. Larus
    +2
    20 January 2013 02: 13
    It is not for nothing that the West pays so generously to its jackals of ours, who shame all people and our whole country, believing that they are the most right-wingers.
  46. +2
    20 January 2013 03: 04
    Quote: SlavaP
    Yes, not everything is good in Europe. And you try not to run away

    Why not? Everyone has their own life and their own path to God. And this Austrian found him in Russia in Orthodoxy, and this is not surprising, in any case for any believing Orthodox person.
    and continue to live in good conscience, and bring up their children in this way, and preserve dignity and faith! And preach your ideals, and set an example with your life.

    This is now for Christians in the West at the level of tests of the early Christians in the pagan Roman Empire.
    1. Living in good conscience with the Europeans, but do they have it?
    2. For the upbringing of children in the traditional sense, they can easily take away their children from their parents, the reason will be sucked out of the finger.
    3. Keep the dignity of faith in the West, eco you are cruel to the author. How to do this in a society of militant atheists, where the wearing of a cross is forbidden, for which you can easily lose your job and even a fine for insulting the religious feelings of Satanists.

    I have said this many times and I will repeat it again - not all freaks and perverts are here!
    And let me remind you: "Do not judge, but you will not be judged."

    And no one judges, but states the facts. And we Russian Orthodox people in Christianity empathize with normal decent ordinary people, Catholics and Lutherans, that the year of the Faith’s test has come for them, whether they, like having washed themselves with blood, fall and rise again, having cast off the chains of demons, history will show.
    1. Vladimir_61
      0
      20 January 2013 09: 50
      There are spiritual people everywhere. Those who are settled can, only there will be a minority, as always. Militant sodomists will definitely not be able to - space debris.
    2. 0
      20 January 2013 15: 53
      Please do not confuse politicians (who are everywhere politicians, in Russia too) with the mass of the population. And the conscience of this mass of the population is enough. And as long as I live, I don’t remember a single case when children were taken away from anyone, except maybe a couple of finished drug addicts. As for wearing the cross, the two women who were injured, an employee of British Airways and a nurse, won this case at the European Court of Human Rights (for all my personal very skeptical attitude to this organization), having received full compensation from employers. By the way, the same process was won by another family consultant who refused to advise a homo couple.
  47. gen.meleshkin
    0
    20 January 2013 07: 48
    How well and correctly written! It’s very difficult to add anything about Western society - perverts.
  48. Vladimir_61
    0
    20 January 2013 09: 28
    Religion is not obscurantism. Obscurantism is human ignorance, which perverted religion beyond recognition, making it a satanic reflection. The West has no future by burying spirituality. Sincerely written - the main thing.
    1. 0
      20 January 2013 14: 56
      Religion becomes obscurantism when it is enforced violently, and churches from spiritual centers turn into shopping centers and commercial enterprises.
      If the society is dominated by vices, perversions, and mortal sins are not condemned by people, then the forces of Darkness rule in society, although religion officially exists, and all people are considered believers.
      Such a religion is worse than atheism, atheists do not believe in God, but do not deny its existence and do not pervert the commandments.
      1. Vladimir_61
        0
        20 January 2013 22: 51
        The forces of darkness have long dominated the majority of ministers, not the first century, when they did not dare to talk about the so-called atheism and declare, so as not to become the next one to ascend the fire. The Inquisition changed clothes and methods, without essentially changing internally.
  49. 0
    20 January 2013 10: 54
    according to Swedish police, in 120 men were raped in December in Stockholm in December, and according to police reports only 20 percent of the victims filed a complaint with the police. Now we’ll think about whether we need this ???? Question to Medvedev inviting lady eider and madona.
  50. 0
    20 January 2013 13: 39
    Russia, Ukraine, Belarus - this is Holy Russia!
    Holy Russia, keep the Orthodox faith, in it is your statement!

    You have accepted a priceless gift - Holy Orthodoxy. Keep it. If you weaken in the Orthodox faith, your enemies will overcome you, and you will become their slaves.
    From the appeal of St. Cyril and Methodius to the Slavs

    and the article is a big plus.

    PS It’s nice to realize that there are more people who are faithful to the Orthodox Church and protecting it and Holy Russia than enemies. That is precisely why terrible attacks are coming against us, which is precisely why we have so many enemies both from the outside and what is even worse — within Russia and the Church itself. But that is precisely why we will stand! As long as there are people who stand up for the defense of Orthodoxy and Russia - until then we will live. And the Lord said about the Church that the gates of hell would not prevail against it. Therefore we will stand. All Orthodox on the feast of the Epiphany!
    1. +1
      21 January 2013 01: 43
      Great respect and respect to you!
  51. +1
    20 January 2013 19: 00
    my grandfather was also a communist, and he was in the NKVD troops and was a “guard” shooting fugitive prisoners and the war, but he always carried with him, all his life, an aluminum cross, attended church, was an Orthodox man, if I’m against the church, then I’m not against it Orthodoxy, and not against my grandfather, that means not against my family, that means not against my Motherland, that means I’m not Judas... I am an Orthodox person, although I have a negative attitude towards today’s church, their Mercedes, BMW Z4, BENTLEY irritate me.. .we urgently need to convene a Cathedral... and reform, and change the patriarch for everyone, before it’s too late, before the church loses its last parishioners, something needs to be done......
    1. +1
      21 January 2013 01: 45
      I think the Church will not lose anything from the loss of its last parishioners in your person.
  52. +1
    20 January 2013 19: 49
    Rus' (in all its guises: Kievan Rus, Muscovite Rus, the Russian Empire, the USSR, and even the modern Russian Federation) is the throne of God on earth, and our ancestors were well aware of this, creating a power and giving their lives on the battlefields for the Freedom of the Fatherland. The Orthodox faith, like the strongest magnet in the world, has in all centuries attracted people who are pure in spirit and thoughts all over the world. And the Russian triunes), as the main bearers and guardians of this Faith, have always been, are and will remain different, unlike other peoples. It is precisely because the West hates us so much that we bring to the world those values, the perception of which by other peoples leaves no place for either Catholics with their vampire Pope, or Protestants with their clergy - py...rs..... So, preserving We will preserve the Orthodox Faith and the Russian people.
    1. +1
      21 January 2013 01: 47
      The last comment put an end to the dispute between the Defenders of Orthodoxy and the enemies of Russia
  53. water-sochi
    +1
    21 January 2013 01: 08
    God bless you.
    Thanks for this article! Let's save the faith and the Church - let's save our people. After all, God and the Mother of God will be with us. Then no one is afraid of us. Never...
  54. 0
    21 January 2013 04: 41
    The article is provocative and ordered, Russia is big and religion plays not the first role in it, if the priests were in power now, a civil war would begin, we won wars not thanks to (religious) faith, but thanks to vast territories, human resources and serfdom in which the common people were in the position of slaves. Otherwise, how can we explain the fact that half of our army remained there after the victory over France, since in Russia they are serfs, and there they are their own masters. For me it’s this: whatever religion it is, it should be supported by the people and not by the state, otherwise it’s worthless.
  55. 0
    21 January 2013 08: 51
    If there is a God, then he doesn’t need such followers, he carries hypocrisy a mile away, most lived under the USSR, and were Komsomol members and openly laughed at the grannies who ran to church.... and then they must have remembered the Orthodox faith.... defenders ... and for me, the more believers, the more society splits, religiously tolerant Christians and Muslims are ready to gnaw their throats, for sidelong glances or an ironic joke, they have built churches since 91, carried out quite successful propaganda of the fashionability of belief (no matter what denomination), the result is complete moral degradation, no one will give a hand when they see someone in trouble, there are a lot of examples in industry, engineering personnel are losing their skills, sorry my dears, but censer-frozen heating systems are not heated or welded, and satellites do not become better quality....
    What I like about this ideology is all the crime bosses who go to church covered in blood, the priests are happy for them for donations, everything is fine, God will forgive... and you continue to rob, kill, deceive... What about politicians, the highest ranks of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Everyone is praying, trying to hold the candle correctly in the temple..... but in reality....
    At the everyday level, the example seems like a trifle, but still he is a Tatar, she is Russian, all the parents are hostile to the faith of others... and still 20 years ago this did not happen..... And I tell you once again not to hope that the state will protect your faith to rejoice, we will get bogged down even deeper in obscurantism and finally destroy the country.... Then the Anglo-Saxons will definitely devour us...
  56. +2
    23 January 2013 22: 48
    Quote: Isk1984
    And I tell you once again not to hope that by defending the faith the state will be restored, we will get bogged down even deeper in obscurantism and finally destroy the country.... Then the Anglo-Saxons will definitely devour us....

    Throughout history, our Motherland has risen thanks to faith, even communism was actually faith.
    I’m not a fanatic and I don’t go to church often, but I consider myself Orthodox. The Russian Orthodox Church is just a way of organizing believers; it is not a faith. I don’t care what kind of cars and watches the priests have, they will be charged three times as much as we are. The stronghold of faith is our People.
    Expensive cars and watches can be stolen or damaged - today they are there, but tomorrow they are gone. The Orthodox Faith is something unique that our ancestors acquired and carried through the centuries. Faith cannot be stolen or taken away without the will. This is something that you can only refuse yourself. No matter how persistent and brave a person is, he can be taken away from his clothes and money, etc., even if he did not say “yes,” but not his faith.
    I’m not a nationalist and I respect other peoples, but I’ll tell you honestly - I’m grateful to God that I’m Russian. I am grateful to God that I have the honor of belonging to a people who have become in our times the main stronghold of Orthodoxy, even if I myself do not play any significant role in this. Who if not us?
    Those who call the Orthodox faith obscurantism, what will you leave for your children? Cars? At home? Bank accounts? What will you leave that no one can take away from him without his will?
  57. garik404
    +1
    24 January 2013 12: 19
    "Three sisters,,
    The annual meeting of Belarus, Russia and Ukraine in Senkovka.
  58. -2
    24 January 2013 19: 22
    Popov's order.
  59. Nonamed
    +1
    25 January 2013 12: 35
    This is true, although the article is definitely a plus; on the path of self-improvement, the Russian Orthodox Church is in every way better than paedo-Satanism.
  60. +1
    25 January 2013 17: 58
    we must take care of our country, our people, our faith and our church, this is our duty to our ancestors and future generations of fellow citizens
  61. +1
    18 March 2013 15: 16
    Plus definitely.
    As Professor Osipov said: “Western countries are spiritually dead. Our people are seriously ill, but still alive.”

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