The “friend or foe” identification system for UAVs developed in Russia is ready for mass production

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The “friend or foe” identification system for UAVs developed in Russia is ready for mass production

Russian Drones will receive a “friend or foe” recognition system; the corresponding equipment has already been developed, passed tests and is ready for mass production. The press service of Rostec reported this.

The Ruselectronics holding has developed a miniature “friend or foe” system specifically for identifying drones. The small device weighs only 150 grams and automatically marks drones at an altitude of up to 5 km and at a distance of up to 100 km from the radio interrogator. At the same time, the device’s power consumption is low, which allows it to be integrated into a wide range of drones for both military and civilian purposes.



The equipment developed by the Ruselectronics holding has successfully passed tests. The company is ready to start mass production upon receipt of orders. Using the device allows you to minimize losses of your UAVs from friendly fire

- lead "News" Rostec message.

The introduction of a “friend or foe” system will allow air defense systems to distinguish their own drones from enemy drones, since the parties often use the same UAV models. Currently, there are cases of drones falling as a result of “friendly fire”, since there are hundreds of drones in the air, and it is quite difficult to visually distinguish them from each other.
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  1. 0
    4 December 2023 10: 25
    "friend or foe" identification system

    I don’t understand much about this, it’s like, “Whose Crimea?” winked
  2. +3
    4 December 2023 10: 34
    And given that drones often fall/are shot down (relatively intact) and the system quickly ends up in the hands of the enemy, is there really any point in this? plus how will an infantryman with a machine gun looking at the sky determine that? will everyone have identification?
  3. +5
    4 December 2023 10: 37
    Using the device allows you to minimize losses of your UAVs from friendly fire
    This is certainly good. But the question immediately arises: in the event of a UAV falling on enemy territory, which often happens, will it be necessary to change the “friend or foe” code or is a self-liquidator provided?
    1. +3
      4 December 2023 12: 24
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Is there a self-liquidator?

      Of course not, before departure information is entered about whose it is. and works roughly for 1 hour. Naturally, there must be a trust device that, roughly speaking, works for 2 months. and through which you can mark 2-20 devices. After 2 months the device is replaced with a new one. In a word, standard identification algorithms using trust devices.
  4. 0
    4 December 2023 10: 37
    The whole question is the number of these systems to ensure all UAVs, their security from counterfeiting and the availability of l / s on the LBS to determine "friend or foe"
    1. 0
      4 December 2023 10: 40
      I think, looking at the incredible presence of UAVs in the Russian Army and their growing production, there should be no questions at all now good
      1. 0
        4 December 2023 10: 52
        I think, looking at the incredible presence of UAVs in the Russian Army and their growing production, there should be no questions at all now

        It’s just looking at the large number of different UAVs supplied from the Russian Ministry of Defense to ordinary citizens that I have questions.
        1. +2
          4 December 2023 11: 06
          This is the problem of modern analysts - there are questions but no suggestions. stop
          1. -2
            4 December 2023 11: 56
            If you have no answers, but only, I apologize, puppy delight, then what is this dialogue for?
            1. +1
              4 December 2023 12: 03
              No answers?) Have you watched footage from the Russian UAV production plant? lol look, it's been floating around the internet for a long time good
              1. 0
                4 December 2023 12: 10
                What is the connection with the questions I outlined above and the footage of the UAV conveyor?
                If there's nothing relevant to say, then I'm sorry. request I don’t see the point in pouring from empty to empty.
  5. -2
    4 December 2023 10: 38
    Quote: 2 level advisor
    And given that drones often fall/are shot down (relatively intact) and the system quickly ends up in the hands of the enemy, is there really any point in this? plus how will an infantryman with a machine gun looking at the sky determine that? will everyone have identification?


    There's a meaning.
    Firstly, it takes time to figure it out, and they (the Armed Forces of Ukraine) practically don’t have it anymore.
    Secondly - the system will be encoded 100% good
    1. +1
      4 December 2023 12: 28
      Quote: FighterD
      Secondly - the system will be encoded 100%

      Of course not.
      The system must be 100% open. Only keys that last from 1 hour to, for example, 48 hours are changed.
      1. -1
        4 December 2023 19: 54
        How can information about the current key be transmitted to all weapons equipped by interrogators in one hour? Especially considering that they can shoot at it just 10 minutes after takeoff?
  6. +2
    4 December 2023 10: 41
    The main thing is to equip each such device with a self-liquidator. Otherwise, all expenses will go down the drain after the first “trophies”. Or enter a code - password, for a certain period.
    1. +1
      4 December 2023 11: 33
      As an option, each UAV is assigned a unique code, and if control is lost, it is deleted from the register.
  7. +1
    4 December 2023 10: 41
    This does not save you from friendly electronic warfare and small arms fire.
    1. -1
      4 December 2023 10: 44
      You don't have to do anything at all - you'll just die laughing
    2. 0
      4 December 2023 17: 43
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      shooters can't save you

      The percentage of shooter damage is very small,
      Electronic warfare can just be taught to recognize
  8. 0
    4 December 2023 10: 43
    Bravo and standing ovation to Russian developers good
  9. 0
    4 December 2023 12: 09
    The equipment works with stations using the Russian “Password” identification system.
    https://rostec.ru/news/rostekh-sozdal-miniatyurnuyu-sistemu-svoy-chuzhoy-dlya-identifikatsii-bespilotnikov/

    In 1961, when the equipment once again fell into the hands of a potential enemy, a meeting of the defense department of the Party Central Committee was held. It brought together the ministers of the radio industry, shipbuilding, aviation industry, heads of departments of the Ministry of Defense, and all the luminaries in the field of radar. There were about fifty people in the hall. The head of the defense department of the Central Committee, Ivan Serbin, took the stage. He pointed his finger at the audience and said very angrily: “How long will you bring the country to its knees? Develop a system that is not afraid of discredit!”

    This equipment will be in service for a very long time. It does not serve decoding. Airplanes with the “Password” system many times fell into the hands of a potential enemy, but it did not matter anymore. In the equipment there were no "flooded" codes. Thousands of their options change every second at random.
    https://rg.ru/2015/04/02/parol-site.html
    1. -1
      4 December 2023 12: 47
      She has one weak point. It’s just this conviction that
      Quote: Andriuha077
      It cannot be deciphered.
      . It fell into the hands of the enemy many times, but each time the enemy, with persistence and tenacity, reports to us that he could not decipher anything. For any tricky bolted connection there is a smart guy, it’s a matter of time and luck
      1. +1
        4 December 2023 16: 07
        Yes, at least take a moment - the enemy will never report to you whether he decrypted your codes or not,
        The Germans were completely sure that their codes were not discredited, because they were convinced that no one could decipher them. Resting on your laurels is the way to go. Then a person comes to whom it was not explained that this is impossible and he turns everything upside down
        1. 0
          4 December 2023 16: 55
          A couple of pluses, absolutely true! He won't report. However, there is some admiration for the supposed incredible half-century of continuity in this digital field, which should be bursting with innovation in our digital age.

          In the illustrative photo, ninjas (Japanese) are diligently unscrewing something, it seems there was a predecessor of the one in question, “Silicon”
        2. 0
          5 December 2023 15: 17
          You just don’t have enough knowledge (about encryption). As for “he won’t report” - even a child can understand that.
          1. -1
            5 December 2023 17: 04
            Well, the fact that I lack knowledge of cryptography (or cryptology) is not entirely true. Knowing that this phenomenon exists is enough for me. I also have enough observations that our modern technology slightly does not meet the needs of our military (maybe not all, but at least I have heard complaints about this system), I cannot know whether these complaints and wishes reach the developers or not, but they are very I hope so. As for the topic of the article, I think everything can be decrypted, you just need to have sufficient computing power and sufficient access to the transmitted information (to understand the logic of encryption you need to have statistics), and these are precisely those cases when equipment and radio interceptions fall into the hands of the enemy . Well, no one can guarantee that the enemy will not seize libraries of radio interceptions (for example, from the recent one - during the current mess in Israel, an Israeli radio intelligence base was captured by a group of special forces allegedly from Hamas, I do not doubt for a minute that British libraries as a result of this operation were replenished with an Israeli library )
  10. 0
    4 December 2023 13: 32
    An idea from the series “the road to hell is paved with good intentions.” The identification system should be applied upon detection of a target. Most air defense radars are not capable of detecting drones, which, due to their size and flight altitude, can fly between trees (houses). For such birds and flies, the VNOS system with strict control of time and flight corridors is more suitable. The other extreme is that you will have to equip your own missiles and shells flying towards the enemy with transponders. Saturating your troops with interrogation systems without the real possibility of destroying someone else's UAV will lead to the unmasking of the position with the subsequent arrival of a homing projectile.
  11. 0
    5 December 2023 14: 59
    That is, until now we have to shoot down everything that flies, since it is difficult to understand - is it ours or the enemy?