Reference: Abraham SHMULEVICH - a former Soviet citizen, now - a rabbi from the city of Hebron. He is also a politician who relies on traditionalist values and cooperates in this direction with the elite political club Eurasia. He is also a member of the political council of the “For the Motherland” movement, and not all-Israeli, but all-Russian. And yet - a connoisseur of philosophical and mystical schools, spiritual stories humanity ...
Alexander PROKHANOV. Avrom, tell us what is the meaning of your movement? What does hyperionism mean?
Avrom Shmulevich. Now most of the Israeli establishment is somehow connected with the American cosmopolitan globalists. Imagine the leaders of the financial and world elite, including the Jewish one, who still opposes the existence of Israel. They do not need a free Israel, they prefer to integrate into the citizens of the world. Someone seems to be Jewish, but he has an apartment in London, a house in Paris, and so on. Their logic is this: if Israel disappears, if the American people disappear, if the Russian people disappear, then "we" from Tel Aviv, from New York, from Moscow will move to another capital without any problems. If all of humanity disappears, "we" will be able to buy a satellite with the help of money and move there - to revolve around the Earth and do their own things in orbit. But these are people outside nationality, outside religion. And the world they want to build is a world in which there is no nation or religion.
But there are others. These are religious orthodoxies who want to build their lives according to the principles of Judaism. And this care in a kind of "ghetto" - it is important for them to close, hide somewhere, without getting into life, including their own country. The third approach we present. We believe that it is necessary to build a life based on the Jewish tradition, that the Western world order leads to the death of Judaism. Therefore, Israel must go on the offensive. We stand for the construction of the Israeli empire. The border from the Nile to the Euphrates is the region’s natural geopolitical border. This is a kind of geopolitical integrity. As Russia can exist only within the known borders of Eurasia, so Israel should exist only within these borders. Otherwise, the country will not be sustainable, otherwise there will be external influence, otherwise we will be toys of external forces that decide everything for us.
Our movement is in favor of Judaism becoming an ideology that is closed not only on its internal problems. After all, Judaism is the religion most suited to the post-industrial state of society. And we say that the best defense is an offensive. One of my articles is called: "The State of Israel from the Rio Grande to the Yellow River." This means, of course, not the physical border, but the fact that Israel should become a great power. We believe that our project is the future. Because the project, which is now supported by the Jewish globalists, is blood and this is war, from which both Jews and Arabs suffer.
A.P. How are these ideas shared in Israel? Or your thoughts - the lot of a narrow circle of eccentric intellectuals?
A.Sh. Our views are shared by a large part of the population. But many, unfortunately, do not believe that our goals are achievable. The desire to be content with small things is very strong: leave heaven to heaven, win back your little piece of earth - and that's enough ...
A.P. There is an impression that Israel is experiencing some kind of a huge ideopolitical and moral crisis, almost its last years.
A.Sh. Israel is the heart of the world. Therefore, there is so much tension around this land. The time we are experiencing is a difficult time. This is the time of the death of the old world and the birth of the new world. After twenty years, our children will see the world completely different. In Israel, it is just more clearly felt.
A.P. Do you mean the coming of the "Messiah"?
A.Sh. Humanity is now in transition from one fundamental epoch to another. In what is called post-industrial device. But you can say a little differently. At the beginning of the Book of Genesis, when the Most High created Adam, he gave him the following command: "Be fruitful and multiply and take over the earth" - that is, reign. All the development of humanity - this is actually the implementation of this task. Man must master the world.
Once the main value was the land, man was associated with nature, was part of it; the second epoch was industrial, the main thing was the production of things and machines, when man walked, as it were, parallel to nature, in conflict with creation. The third era we are entering is the era of knowledge. The main source of the motor economy is the production and processing of information. Production and processing technology, whether it is industrial technology, whether it is a technology of people management and mind control. That is, knowledge is a thing through which a person can join the higher. And therein lies the great danger. On the one hand, this epoch can raise a person very highly, on the other hand, it can drop him sharply and low, as a person enters the "holy of holies." Humanity is now given such opportunities that have never been before. And if people are not spiritually and physically ready for them, then what has already happened in history will come ... Let us recall the Flood or the story about the Tower of Babel. If we cannot harmonize our aspirations, then the new world will be terrible. He will be destroyed.
A.P. But this is metaphysics. Let's talk about politics. Israel today is rapidly retreating from the lands that were conquered in the twentieth century. A country in which one leader was killed by Jewish fundamentalists from weaponsand the other seemed to be incapacitated with the help of medicine. Today's Israel is forced to reconcile with the fact that Hamas becomes its political partner. There is a ripening rift in Israeli society. Israelis feel that America is betraying them to some extent, and in fact there is a feeling that America’s interest in this territory is declining.
A.Sh. Metaphysics is the basis of politics. It is impossible to understand deep-seated processes, especially during a period of changing epochs, without an understanding of metaphysics. As for the specific analysis, in Israel there are very many things, in fact, not as they seem. "Israel crisis" lasts for five thousand years. Recall the description of the conquests of the pharaohs. It says: "Israel is completely destroyed and will never rise again." This was the first mention of the Jews in narrative sources. So it’s too early to bury Israel.
What is happening in the Middle East today is the result of a clash of various projects. Still, the West, despite the contradictions between Western Europe and America, is in principle one and the same force. Western project too early to write off. The West wants to preserve its hegemony, but I believe that this means stopping development. There is the so-called Islamism, that part of Islamic thought, which believes that it is necessary to return to the civilization of the time of Muhammad. All that appeared after Muhammad, they cut off, declare heresy, even Islamic music and Islamic art. Islam, which is now rising, is a project that requires stopping the development of civilization. There is China, which so far is only trying to become a project, and it is not known whether it will succeed.
One of the projects is a project of Jewish civilization.
At the time of exile, Judaism went to the ghetto, that is, closed, was not open to the world. With the beginning of the return of the Jews to their land, with the beginning of the Zionist project, Judaism again became a spiritual factor significant for all of humanity. At the same time, the idea of Zionism is limited - to make a small protected refuge, and not - as many think - to interfere in the affairs of the present nations. On the contrary, the Zionists wanted to dislodge all Jews from the diasporas and create an ordinary country. However, unfortunately, the world is arranged in such a way that it is impossible to sit out in a ghetto state. The Arabs have a proverb: if you do not want to become a wolf, dogs will eat you.
Jews must accept the challenge that history gives them, to become a force of significance on a global scale.
Why does the Middle East conflict last so long? I live behind the wall of the Arabs. You can deal with them, with ordinary people ... But the fact is that the decisions that determine my life and the lives of my Arab neighbors are not made in Jerusalem or in Ramallah. They are accepted in Washington, in Brussels, in Beijing, in Europe, in Jakarta - anywhere, but not here. There are forces in the world that are interested in the conflict going on forever. But we must take our fate into our own hands.
Russia, for example, is interested in high oil prices, which is why it simultaneously plays with Israel and Hamas. She is interested in the Arab-Israeli conflict smoldering forever. And America is interested because it is a strategically important region for it. Since it is impossible to keep an American garrison in every Israeli, Egyptian or Jordanian town, it is more profitable for America to create a controlled crisis. The main engine of the idea of creating a Palestinian state is America. States still do not recognize the capital of Israel, do not recognize Israel within the boundaries of 1968. Those donations that are collected by American Jews for the needs of Israel, American laws prohibit using outside the green line. Americans are interested in having this so-called Palestinian state, which, by the way, will be absolutely unviable. And next to it will be Israel, whose width, in the narrowest place, is 16 miles. In this form, the state also can not exist. The Arab population living on the territory of the autonomy 50 years "sharpened" by the war. That is, they do not know how to do anything else. It's like Chechen militants who have been fighting for the second decade.
Since there is no economy there and it is not planned - and the reason is wild Arab corruption - there will be a constant source of tension in the region. America, controlling both sides, will stimulate the crisis and keep abreast of the region strategically important to it. Take the same notorious American aid. The budget of Israel is more than one hundred billion dollars. Americans give three billion military aid. But this assistance is given in such a way that it can be used only by placing orders at American enterprises. That is, the Americans support their economy, and the Israeli military industry cannot develop normally. In addition, the Americans, because the money is being forced into military development, have the right to veto the supply of Israeli weapons. With China, for example, conflicts have repeatedly arisen when Israel wanted to supply it with weapons. So thanks to this "help" the Americans control the Israeli military industry.
A.P. So Israel is an American project ...
A.Sh. Not. Israel is a Jewish project. Israel is one of the greatest achievements of the twentieth century. The people knocked out, snatched their own state in the confrontation of all the major world forces, whether it be Hitler's Germany, the USSR or the USA. As they say about Jacob, he fought with God and people and won.
The collapse of the Soviet Union meant the end of the Russian national project, the Russian civilization as a world civilization, which gives answers to some questions that face humanity. The path to which Russia is now rapidly sliding is the path of practical reservation, more suitable for Estonia or Lithuania. Although Lithuania was once also a European superpower, it stretched from the Black to the Baltic Sea. And today it is a world province, which has no ambitions. In Russia now, in the same way as in Israel, the comprador bourgeoisie rules. They sell some resources that the "natives" mine. In Russia, it is oil. The Russian ruling elite is the only thing that knows how to sell oil. In Israel, since there is no natural wealth, the resource is its geopolitical position. And the elite that rules Israel are trading this resource.
Russia and Israel could cooperate. In Israel, a rather benevolent attitude toward Russia, there is a priority of Russian culture. But the Russian national movement is largely steeped in anti-Semitic prejudice. It already cost Russia in due time the collapse of the Empire. In fact, the Jews have always been the imperial people and for many centuries of Russian history supported the central government. It was necessary to try very hard, as the Romanov dynasty did, to make the shock force of the revolution out of Jewish youth. Today, the same mistake is repeated by Russian nationalists, making the Jews and Israel their enemy. The Russians are dying in the country, and they are engaged in debating whether Yeltsin has Jewish blood, and how many killed Christian babies can fit on the needle tip of a Jewish tailor. My point of view is that the high degree of anti-Semitism in Russia is largely supported from outside.
A.P. Accidentally not from Israel?
A.Sh. No, that you. Before the revolution, by the way, a significant part of the ideologists of Russian anti-Semitism had Polish-Catholic roots. And now, take the patriarch of Russian anti-Semitism Gregory Klimov. Actually, it was a staff member of the CIA, who was engaged in the ideological struggle against the Soviet Union.
And I am left with the impression that all this “anti-Semitism” is specifically supported by the interested forces in order to direct the Russian national movement along a certain channel. The ideology of anti-Semitism is extremely harmful for Russia. It leads Russians away from the problems that exist in the country. If the Russians can look at Israel, the Jewish question, not through anti-Semitic glasses, then a very important and mutually beneficial alliance is possible. We can recall the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. If Hitler, having gone against his will and Haushofer and most of his compatriots, had not broken this alliance, there would have been neither the horrors of the Holocaust nor the horrors of the Second World War.
A.P. Do you think "Tomorrow" is an anti-Semitic newspaper?
A.Sh. Of course. I can say that in Israel the publication in your newspaper is still blamed for me. However, "Tomorrow" is an ideological, not momentary edition. This distinguishes you favorably from many newspapers engaged in servicing the authorities, from the establishment and a significant part of Russian Jewry, of which only personal interests are of interest. With "Tomorrow" you can have a dialogue. After all, the prejudices that exist can be defeated only in dialogue. The main thing is to have intellectual honesty.
A.P. What, in your opinion, is the reason for the sublimation of the theme of "Russian fascism". Is this a real problem or does someone solve this problem with this bugaboo?
A.Sh. This is a project of power, initiated by the presidential administration. With the help of the scarecrow "Russian fascism" want to obscure the situation. The comprador bourgeoisie rules in Russia, the main thing for them is that no one bothers them to sit on the oil pipe and cut coupons. What is this Russian bourgeoisie? From people who, so to speak, walked for a long time to the pipe, repelled each other, killed. They obviously do not want to fall from it. And nothing else in life can not. And the Russian national revival will naturally require that oil revenues go not to the pockets of individuals, but to the revival of the country, to science, education, culture.
Therefore, those who are now in power are vitally interested in destroying the Russian national project.
By the way, in this your “elite” merges with the Islamists. One expert on Islam once said to me: “I think the day will come when many Kremlin officials will take the skullcap out of safes and say,“ Allah Akbar! ” they are definitely interested in suppressing any sprouts of the Russian national movement.To justify tough actions in the eyes of the West and the world community, the buggy of anti-Semitism is best suited.
A.P. Have you heard about the project "Second Khazaria"?
A.Sh. There is a myth about the Khazars who created Lev Gumilyov. By the way, as a student, I listened to his lectures for two years, spoke with him regularly ... I note: almost all creators of historical concepts: be it Marx, be it Toynbee, be it Gumilyov, were anti-Semites. After all, the Jews do not fit into any of the existing concepts, do not obey the general historical laws. Gumilyov, of course, was not a domestic anti-Semite, but he did not like Jews as a people. This spread to his popular concept of the Khazars.
Khazaria is the first Eurasian empire that united the Eurasian spaces. In many ways, the imperial control technologies that were developed by the Khazars were inherited by the Mongols. And from the Golden Horde passed to the Russian Empire. Khazaria is a project that harmonizes the interests of various peoples. And if it were not for natural disasters, draining the steppes, it could be there until now.
Today, the project "Second Khazaria" - as I see it - is a project of harmonization, a variant of positive cooperation of several empires: Russian, Turkic and Jewish.
The Khazar idea is the idea of a symphony. The main task of the Jews - the study of the Torah, the divine heritage. It is ridiculous to think that Jews dream of ruling Chechen auls or Russian villages. Jews are not born for this. Every nation should go about its business, manage its land on the basis of the laws that it establishes for itself and cooperate together in the knowledge of the Most High. The main task of mankind is the establishment of a just society on earth, which will reflect the divine order in itself.
"Israel - from the Nile to the Euphrates! .."
- Avrom Shmulevich