“Russian troops will be deprived of a safe haven”: the United States officially confirmed the delivery of ATACMS missiles to the Ukrainian Armed Forces

Back in October 2023, the Ukrainian Armed Forces used US-supplied missiles for the first time. missile long-range ATACMS systems. Now Washington has decided to officially confirm the transfer of this strike weapon.

ATACMS gives Ukraine the ability to launch long-range strikes, denying Russian troops a safe haven

- representatives of the US mission to NATO wrote on social networks, announcing the transfer of this type weapons.

ATACMS is a tactical ballistic missile designed for use with heavy MLRS HIMARS and M270 for precision strikes over long distances. This OTR is especially effective in neutralizing supply nodes, command centers and concentrated combat formations.

ATACMS is powered by a single-stage solid rocket motor and is loaded with a variety of warhead options. The missile's flight range is approximately 160 to 300 km, depending on the modification. The guidance system usually uses GPS and INS to achieve high accuracy.

Over the years, ATACMS has been upgraded to enhance its capabilities. Improvements were made to the guidance system, propulsion system and warhead.

The Ukrainian Armed Forces are attempting to use the American missile to strike both Russian troop concentrations and civilian infrastructure. As was the case with the HIMARS MLRS, the Russian weapons Defense gradually adapt to the new threat.

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[Msi]

The Ukrainian Armed Forces are trying to use the American missile when striking both concentrations of Russian troops and hitting civilian infrastructure. As was the case with the HIMARS MLRS, Russian air defense systems are gradually adapting to the new threat.

It is a fact. The work is underway... Nowadays, the Hymers only like to terrorize peaceful cities...

[Dmitry Donskoy]

The news, of course, is not pleasant, but I think: 1-their number will not be large, 2-ours will track them and try to cover them on the territory of 404 states, and finally, 3-our valiant air defense will try to shoot down those that take off.

[private person]

our valiant air defense will try to shoot down those that take off

Just today, the guys fired at the police station in Kherson with Hymers and there were dead. Well, it’s not possible to cover the entire air defense front. We need a tough answer, one that would make the bitches tremble with fear of the imminent end.

[ANB]

. Just today, the VSUs fired at a police station in Kherson with Heimers and there are casualties. Well, it's impossible to cover the entire air defense front

Double-check the text. Kherson is now under Ukrainian rule. They, of course, could fire at him, but then our air defense would have nothing to do with it.

[Myths]

It’s just that we should do the same with the USA and others like them all over the world. Supply high-precision and reconnaissance. So that any Indian could hit the occupiers.

[krot]

“Russian troops will be deprived of a safe haven”: USA

When will we deprive the US of safe haven?

[mitlantecutli_zen]

Cuando haya hechos en vez de ridículas lineas,rojas que no a asustan a nadie y no sirvieron para nada.

[Mazunga]

oi irmão))) engraçado para todos. Com a cor vermelha tudo fica cômico; precisamos de marrom))

[Alexander I]

We have a good memory, you will have to pay for everything

[Sergey39]

Not in Kherson, but in the Kherson region controlled by the Russian Federation.

[private person]

Kherson is now under Ukrainian rule.

I apologize in the Kherson region.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: private person

We need a tough answer, one that would make the bitches tremble with fear of the imminent end.

Draw a thick red line at a meeting with journalists!
But seriously, okay, the Ukrainian people seem almost like ours, stupefied, but Europe and the States calmly supply their weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which kills our men, and from us to them there are only conversations and warnings!!!

[Sobol]

Quote: Starover_Z

Quote: private person

We need a tough answer, one that would make the bitches tremble with fear of the imminent end.

Draw a thick red line at a meeting with journalists!
But seriously, okay, the Ukrainian people seem almost like ours, stupefied, but Europe and the States calmly supply their weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which kills our men, and from us to them there are only conversations and warnings!!!

It has always been this way. The states fought in Vietnam - the Union supplied weapons to Ho Chi Minh. The Union fought in Afghanistan - the states supplied weapons to the Mujahideen. And the war in Korea. Nobody threw nuclear bombs for this. It so happened - the third one is out of business. The Union acted differently: “You messed with us in this place - you will get an answer in another.” Our leaders, apparently, do not accept such a policy. It is sad.

[hazarn]

Quote: SoboL

The Union acted differently: “You messed with us in this place - you will get an answer in another.” Our leaders, apparently, do not accept such a policy. It is sad.

There are several differences: the United States does not supply anything for free and does not write off anyone’s debts - the tsarist debts (which Lenin refused) are still “passing around” and the topic is periodically raised, while the USSR supplied everything on loans (like Turkey’s S-400 currently), and then said goodbye - the Russia-Africa summit in 2023. as an example. The USA earned, the USSR gave, if you step on the same rake again, the result is already known.

[igor tsyupko]

You write nonsense. Rosoboronexport will not even supply a nut for free. Neither friends nor enemies.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

There are several differences: the United States does not supply anything for free and does not write off anyone’s debts.
Oh, it seems like bubbles are going through a puddle....Who told you such nonsense? Just type this question into a search engine and you will get an exhaustive answer to such a categorical statement. The Internet will help you and you will be wildly surprised when you learn that the USA has written off many debts not only to its satellites, but even to its enemies of the present time, including Cuba and Nicaragua. And the full list of countries that have had their debts written off will be very long, including Vietnam, Libya, Syria, Ethiopia, Iraq, Egypt, Angola, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even China and Japan. Another thing is that it is more interesting to look not at the list of countries, but at the figures of the forgiven debt. The USSR forgave $140 billion in its history. The Russian Federation more than $20 billion, and the USA more than $50 billion in the last 20 years alone. Well, the printing press is working, they can afford it...
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[Nicola]

In addition to warnings, there is also diesel fuel, gasoline, gas and a lot of goodies. Business is booming, however.

[Rusfaner]

Not only: the Russian Federation is the largest grain supplier to the EU!
Partners...

[Glagol1]

Missed anything? Kherson under occupation...

[zloybond]

It is not only the Armed Forces of Ukraine that need to be answered. There are places where American bases are facing confrontation. It is necessary to announce the supply of long-range missiles to Syria, for example...

[Saburov_Alexander53]

It is necessary to announce the supply of long-range missiles to Syria, for example...
What do you think will be left of Damascus after the first such missile hits the US base? These are homemade drones or missiles made from water pipes, you can hit their bases, just prove it or find someone... And then the return will be merciless, like from Israel in Gaza. Don't you believe it?

[isv000]

Quote: Dmitry Donskoy

3-our valiant air defense will try to shoot down those that take off.

Yes sir! We don’t fly ourselves and we won’t let others!

[Michael]

Quote from Msi

The Ukrainian Armed Forces are trying to use the American missile when striking both concentrations of Russian troops and hitting civilian infrastructure. As was the case with the HIMARS MLRS, Russian air defense systems are gradually adapting to the new threat.

It is a fact. The work is underway... Nowadays, the Hymers only like to terrorize peaceful cities...

The fact is that non-Russian missiles are also being adapted to Russian air defense. And the moment they think they have adapted, they will deliver a disarming blow. Which people have been raving about since Dropshot.

[Msi]

And the moment they think they have adapted, they will deliver a disarming blow.

very doubtful... It is very technically difficult to do, to deliver a disarming strike. Especially now. When the situation is tense to the limit, when the Strategic Missile Forces are "sitting on the button". How can we not notice the stage of preparation for the strike, namely the concentration of strike forces near our border?

[Michael]

Quote from Msi

when the Strategic Missile Forces are "sitting on the button". How can one not notice the stage of preparation for a strike, namely the concentration of strike forces near our border?

Well, yes, the last frontier and guarantee is the Strategic Missile Forces. Are any special generals selected for the Strategic Missile Forces?
But it turns out that there are no 1500 missiles in warehouses and it is necessary to send a general beyond the Urals to command, they still say the missiles have been preserved, let’s go.

[Sergey3]

A disarming blow is the delirium of madmen. Experience with the Outskirts shows that even several thousand cruise missiles are not enough to completely break the resistance of a large country.

[Msi]

Experience with the Outskirts shows that even several thousand cruise missiles are not enough to completely break the resistance of a large country.

Let's just say that the experience with the outskirts is not entirely correct. More than one country is involved.

[Escariot]

Quote: Sergey3

A disarming blow is the delirium of madmen. Experience with the Outskirts shows that even several thousand cruise missiles are not enough to completely break the resistance of a large country.

It depends on how the rockets are used. If you launch 3 units a day, then it’s really useless, but if you launch several thousand at a time, then no air defense will be able to cover you, and all control systems will be destroyed.

[Myths]

And how will this save you from nuclear hell afterward? You seem to be suffering from a Western disease, a pre-emptive strike to disarm an entire country...

[Deon59]

Well, well, our air defense will intercept the blow of thousands of axes. How many people will die at once. Here with Ukraine for the second year, no way. But we can handle NATO.

[Sergey39]

As they say, until a soldier's boot sets foot on enemy soil. And so, you can "pour missiles, bombs and drones."

[isv000]

Quote: Sergey3

A disarming blow is the delirium of madmen. Experience with the Outskirts shows that even several thousand cruise missiles are not enough to completely break the resistance of a large country.

Well, this is one country, and there are about fifty of them there...

[sgrabik]

Well, it depends on what warheads will be installed on these several thousand cruise missiles; if they are nuclear, then accordingly, it won’t seem too small to anyone.

[Rostov Papa]

All information garbage - no money for tsegabon, no shells. this is for fools. They'll send something else soon. No one is going to stop, the Tsegabonians are not finished yet.

[private person]

It is a fact. The work is underway... Nowadays, the Hymers only like to terrorize peaceful cities...

Well, let’s say that they tell us about attacks on peaceful cities, but no one will tell us about the use of RAVs on troops and warehouses.

[Msi]

Well, let’s say that they tell us about attacks on peaceful cities, but no one will tell us about the use of RAVs on troops and warehouses.

When they used it in the summer of 2022, we learned about attacks on warehouses and personnel locations and headquarters. Nobody made much of a secret. The effectiveness of the Hymers' actions has now dropped significantly... This is a fact. I remember, out of helplessness, the bitches even hit positions (trenches) on the Zaporozhye front with this prodigy...

[private person]

The effectiveness of the Hymers' actions has now dropped significantly...

Who told you? If it were like you say, the Americans wouldn't bother with missile supplies. "Heimers" are dangerous weapons that have already caused a lot of trouble to our RF Armed Forces and it shouldn't be underestimated. We need a powerful response to every use of ATACMS, one that would make the U.S. knees tremble.

[Msi]

We need a powerful response to every use of ATACMS, one that would make the knees of the bitches tremble.

What answer? Offer...

[Myths]

Bridges across the Dnieper are, in part, a good answer for attacks and attempted attacks on the Crimean bridge. Not? Not the answer?

[Knut Johanson]

The simplest answer is to hit the notorious “decision-making centers.” It is necessary to knock out the highest military and political leadership, as well as the most odious Russophobe ideologists and leaders of nationalist movements. They have gone unpunished for too long.

[Dart2027]

Quote: private person

If it were as you say, then the Americans would not bother with the supply of missiles.

What else should they do? There are no others.

[Escariot]

Quote from Msi

Well, let’s say that they tell us about attacks on peaceful cities, but no one will tell us about the use of RAVs on troops and warehouses.

When they used it in the summer of 2022, we learned about attacks on warehouses and personnel locations and headquarters. Nobody made much of a secret. The effectiveness of the Hymers' actions has now dropped significantly... This is a fact. I remember, out of helplessness, the bitches even hit positions (trenches) on the Zaporozhye front with this prodigy...

Of course, the effectiveness of the Highmars was already not high and has dropped significantly... Of course, we believe... However, just today they posted another, of course, fake video with the alleged defeat of the Buk-3m by this missile, which of course clicks all these missiles from the Highmars like nuts.

[Huarabey]

Who posted this video and where? Is there a link?

[Escariot]

Quote: Warabey

Who posted this video and where? Is there a link?

I don't know how to upload video from the cart here. There are screenshots of this fake.

[Huarabey]

Is it possible to post a link directly to the cart here?

[Dimm588]

Highmars simply turned out to be ineffective, remember all these jumping of the Khakhlov at the beginning of the Northern Military District, we can repeat the Chernobaevka, etc. etc. all the most painful blows to the Russian Federation were inflicted by Ukrainian tornadoes, it was just not advertised so clearly - they were Soviet weapons. But yes, any weapon is dangerous.

[Dimm588]

It looks like I offended the sect of the holy Khimars, well, excuse me, they are in the same place as the javelins, bayracters and all the other rubbish, this is just to scare the Papuans.

[Knut Johanson]

Highmars are still a very dangerous weapon that continues to deal us sensitive blows. And in winter conditions, when troops lose mobility and are forced to concentrate in rear deployment points to ensure heating and supplies, its effectiveness increases many times over. With the advent of the Atakms, there will be no safe places left in the rear.

[Alien From]

No, dear author of the post, this is a big problem.

[Lev_Russia]

Dream, dream... We learned to shoot down "Storm Shadow" and "HIMARS" missiles, we will learn to shoot down "ATACMS" missiles... By the way, don't you feel sorry for Kyiv and Lvov at all...???
As always, ukram really want to lie -
The gene is to blame for that "Ukrainian" -
They say they've run out of rockets
And they all fly and fly!
Ukram, falling right on your head -
God's punishment for everything to them from heaven ...
“Besogon” for all “stubborn Ukrainians” -
Since Nazism has invaded them, the devil!!!

[Goroches]

so this is already shit Ukrainians it's been there for more than a month, somehow Crimea still hasn't been destroyed (what happened, is everything lost? the Russians didn't run from the leopards, what are you talking about, there's no plan B (

[vindigo]

It's time to turn off their electricity. They were provided with generators so that non-combatants would not freeze.

[Ross xnumx]

“Russian troops will be deprived of a safe haven”: the United States officially confirmed the delivery of ATACMS missiles to the Ukrainian Armed Forces

Thus, the United States can be considered a direct participant in the conflict, and it also makes no sense for Russia to guarantee the safe presence of the American military in the Eastern Hemisphere, for example...
As for the various Hawks and other unmanned reconnaissance crap, there is no need to warn anyone anymore.
Still, we will be forced to closely approach the use of weapons based on new physical principles or the same tactical nuclear weapons with a short half-life (small radioactive contamination) ...
* * *
On the other hand, we can discuss a fake, because no official source has been named...

[Team]

Thus, the United States can be considered a direct participant in the conflict

How is it “this way”??
That is, they supplied weapons for 2 years - no one counted... namely, after these missiles - is it possible??

[Sandy Andy]

Patriotic and funny. The question is - where are the children and relatives of our government and oligarchs? Which Western country doesn't have them? Which one should we start with? Yes, minus it, it’s not a pity.

[VladMirU]

The strategist is incapable, incapable. Not at all. Not for any serious step. "Intellectual". Such people are incapable of fighting. Only whining and incomprehensible weak responses. A warrior is needed. Decisions on the verge of a foul are needed. "Next time I'll give you one," said the boy, wiping away bloody snot, running away from street hooligans........"

[Oleg Apushkin]

The US administration made a grave mistake when it decided to supply ATACMS long-range missiles to Ukraine. This was stated by the Russian Ambassador in Washington Anatoly Antonov. PS
National Security Council spokeswoman Adrienne Watson confirmed in a statement that the United States recently provided Ukraine with ATACMS with a range of up to 165 km.

[VladMirU]

This is not a mistake, Antonov. They are putting pressure on us. And they will press further. The mistake is the job of the Foreign Ministry, to babble about the “ugly” actions of the US administration. They simply make the decisions they need and don’t care about your statements. Why don't WE make the decisions we need? Multi-way games without exit?

[sgrabik]

The time for fair play and expression of deep concerns has passed, our enemies have realized our weakness and indecisiveness, and are taking full advantage of it, while we continue to whine and refrain in every way from taking the tougher and more decisive actions that are absolutely necessary in this situation.

[fiv]

Now the Houthis will stop missing missiles at us navy

[Nyrobsky]

It seems that the time has come for Russia to assist in any way possible those "good people" who strike at mattress bases, so that their strikes become more effective and noticeably more painful for the fucked-up hegemon. Appealing to decency and trying to negotiate with these ghouls is counterproductive and useless in principle.

[Escariot]

Quote: Nyrobsky

It seems that the time has come for Russia to assist in any way possible those "good people" who strike at mattress bases, so that their strikes become more effective and noticeably more painful for the fucked-up hegemon. Appealing to decency and trying to negotiate with these ghouls is counterproductive and useless in principle.

There is a fine line here: if Russia sells missiles to Yemen or Syria and they hit an aircraft carrier, then there is no problem, the Syrians or the Houthis are to blame and the United States will deal with them. However, if you “sell” weapons to any “Hawaii Liberation Front,” then the United States can assess an attack from them in accordance with paragraph g of the third article of resolution 3314, which could result in a mass “exodus to heaven.” So don't go too far

[Myths]

How well do you know their horror stories? Somehow they are not afraid to get into their neighbor’s garden and egg others on by supplying weapons. Are they going too far?

[Escariot]

Quote from Mitos

How well do you know their horror stories? Somehow they are not afraid to get into their neighbor’s garden and egg others on by supplying weapons. Are they going too far?

If they climb into someone else’s garden, then they are ready to measure their strength with those they are climbing into. For example, they actively bombed Cambodia for its support of the Vietnamese partisans, but they did not even come close to bombing the USSR for their support of the same partisans. The USSR responded symmetrically.

[kventinasd]

Quote from Escariot

then the United States can evaluate an attack from them in accordance with paragraph g of the third article of resolution 3314

Let them scare the Papuans with their resolutions. Russia has long given up on all their threats, because the Yankees know what will happen in response. So in the Middle East it is long overdue to act more boldly against the Americans.

[Escariot]

Quote: kventinasd

Quote from Escariot

then the United States can evaluate an attack from them in accordance with paragraph g of the third article of resolution 3314

Let them scare the Papuans with their resolutions. Russia has long given up on all their threats, because the Yankees know what will happen in response. So in the Middle East it is long overdue to act more boldly against the Americans.

This is not “their” resolution - it is an agreement between the USSR and the USA, enshrined in the form of a resolution. The grandfathers came up with it in order to differentiate various “petty pranks” from the real war.

[isv000]

Quote from Escariot

However, if you “sell” weapons to any “Hawaii Liberation Front,” then the United States can assess an attack from them in accordance with paragraph g of the third article of resolution 3314, which could result in a mass “exodus to heaven.” So don't go too far

The Anglo-Saxon is too prudent to easily perish in fiery hell. As soon as he sees a heavy fist in front of his impudent muzzle, he will immediately estimate the cost of treatment at the dentist and begin to whine about the negotiating table, trying to put the matter on the brakes until better times...

[sgrabik]

We will go to heaven, and they will all just die!!!

[Bully]

It seems that the time has come for Russia to assist in any way possible those “good people” who are striking at mattress bases

When you mention Russia, who do you mean? The people, who, by definition, do not resolve such issues, or the oligarchic government, which doesn’t fucking need it?

[Escariot]

Quote: Bully

It seems that the time has come for Russia to assist in any way possible those “good people” who are striking at mattress bases

When you mention Russia, who do you mean? The people, who, by definition, do not resolve such issues, or the oligarchic government, which doesn’t fucking need it?

The oligarchs, for the most part, did not surrender either the Northern Military District or even Crimea in vain, because they could neither sell oil to Europe nor drink champagne in Courchevel (is this life?). So it’s ridiculous to say that there is supposedly “oligarchic power” in Russia.

[Al manah]

It’s ridiculous to say that there is supposedly “oligarchic power” in Russia.

Yes, let’s laugh, and then remember that power in Russia belongs to the people.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Bully

It seems that the time has come for Russia to assist in any way possible those “good people” who are striking at mattress bases

When you mention Russia, who do you mean? The people, who, by definition, do not resolve such issues, or the oligarchic government, which doesn’t fucking need it?

Are you being a bully??
I wrote everything I wanted, you can figure it out yourself

[isv000]

Quote: Bully

When you mention Russia, who do you mean? The people, who, by definition, do not resolve such issues, or the oligarchic government, which doesn’t fucking need it?

After the bourgeoisie expropriates yachts and water bottles, the oligarchs will realize that at home the air is cleaner and the water is wetter!

[Deon59]

Our leadership is scared to even think about helping to strike Americans in the Middle East

[isv000]

Quote from Deon59

Our leadership is scared to even think about helping to strike Americans in the Middle East

"...but the captain said - it’s not evening yet!"

[Ivan Seversky]

Time to wait at the front for GLSDB rocket-launched gliding bombs with a range of 150 km. I think that since with ATACAMS there will be an application first, and a delivery report much later.

[voyaka uh]

These glide bombs will be even more dangerous than ATACAMS.
Because they are cheap, there are plenty of them in US warehouses.

[garik77]

Quote: Michael

And the moment they think they have adapted, they will deliver a disarming blow.

This will require hundreds of missiles simultaneously, maybe thousands. In reality, Ukrainians will be given two to three dozen, no more. And there are no launchers for a disarming strike. It’s not like in the independent one, but most likely it doesn’t exist in nature at all.

[ZanZag]

The only way to combat this is by transferring the “correct” weapons to the Syrians and Iraqis, for example, or North Korea.

[Graz]

I believe that Russia should transfer about three dozen anti-ship missiles to the Yemeni Houthis

[Ezekiel 25-17]

I think that now the American embassy in Ukraine can be used as a target for the Dagger.

[sgrabik]

Yes, and English is also possible, these adversaries should be washed in the toilet without any hesitation anywhere in the world.

[AlexWar]

Balloons need to be lifted into the air with radars, the only salvation from the Hymers
Air defense does not see low-flying targets; at the beginning of the war in Armenia, when they lost miserably, there was still a problem with drones.
Our Ministry of Defense likes to hush up information. Nobody knows anything.
It won't be possible to keep planes in the air all the time, but you can launch balloons, at least in the area of ​​Crimea, Donetsk, and large cities

[Escariot]

Quote from Alexwar

Balloons need to be lifted into the air with radars, the only salvation from the Hymers
Air defense does not see low-flying targets; at the beginning of the war in Armenia, when they lost miserably, there was still a problem with drones.
Our Ministry of Defense likes to hush up information. Nobody knows anything.
It won't be possible to keep planes in the air all the time, but you can launch balloons, at least in the area of ​​Crimea, Donetsk, and large cities

The Hymars have a ballistic missile. Do you understand? Ballistic! She flies up very high and then falls down like a stone. Almost like Gagarin, only a little lower and without a parachute. And your balloons won’t bother her in any way.

[Knut Johanson]

The missiles on Khaymars are not ballistic, but guided by GPS, plus an inertial system.

[Vrun gel]

We deliver missiles by plane... It would be nice to kill such a delivery man on the approach to Škvarkovini...

[pop]

Is it time to end the giveaway game and start fighting for real? There hasn’t been a single strike on the Dnieper bridges for a year and a half.

[FighterD]

OK. Get started. Will you devote the whole day tomorrow to getting ready for the military registration and enlistment office?

[Scientist]

The longer the SVO lasts, the more modern and dangerous weapons Kyiv is supplied with. And optimism is inappropriate here.
Only one possible scenario. Engels. A massive drone attack saturates our air defenses, followed by a couple of these missiles with cluster heads. And our strategic aviation is suffering irreparable damage. And tires won't help here. I think that cluster warheads have already been delivered to Ukraine primarily for such purposes and such missiles.
And there is only one defense here - the transition from defensive defense to active offensive. Is our army ready for this? The demand is with the Defense Ministry.

[FighterD]

OK. Go on an active offensive

[Nastia makarova]

folly
1. application in the old territory of Russia is prohibited
2. there are no strategists in Engels anymore

[isv000]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

1. application in the old territory of Russia is prohibited

Has this ever stopped anyone?! Tell this to Hitler and the rest, downwards...
The States need Europe in 1945, in ruins, and for this only one force is “suitable” - the Russian army, and we need to avoid getting caught up in their sticky plans.
I think so: we need to go outside to the borders of the USSR and lower the curtain. Don’t be foolish about responding to provocations the way the SA did! And revive the Union as a socially oriented state.

[VladMirU]

MO is weak-willed. Putin decides everything. He doesn’t fight himself and the Defense Ministry doesn’t give him any help. And the Ministry of Defense, it seems, are not warriors either. Theorists. Endless students of military academies. Once again they will wonder why Engels was squandered.....But what, it was possible? - they will say. How to lift all the strategists into the air and launch a salvo at Jeshuv? No ?
Weak? Were you afraid that the US would start WWI? This MoD and Strategist's knees will always be shaking for any reason.

[Knut Johanson]

Our offensive will suffer the same fate as the "counteroffensive" Ukrainians, - let's say a large number of our soldiers with a near-zero effect. Without overwhelming fire superiority, destruction of air defense and air supremacy, this is the path to defeat with unpredictable domestic political consequences. The storming of Avdiivka convincingly proves this.

[Scientist]

The assault on Avdeevka, like Artemovsk, shows what any military man knows: frontal attacks on well-fortified positions always lead to huge losses in both people and time. Why our army was not ready for active offensive operations in Ukraine is a question for the Defense Ministry. The conversation about network-centric wars has been going on for three decades; equipping the Ukrainian army with the most advanced means of communication, reconnaissance, air defense, UAVs, and data from satellite systems has also been known for several years. What the saturation of infantry with MANPADS leads to has been known since Afghanistan. Only for our strategists all this came as a surprise.

[FighterD]

Quote: r5555

I hope our valiant Secretary General stocked up on red markers

I think the tired routine jokes about red lines are no longer appropriate after February 24, 2022

[Knell wardenheart]

This is how all the red lines creep across the belly, unfortunately...
What to do about it? The conflict will last - and the rackets will reach 499 km. the range will be the same, the planes will be the same, maybe the missiles will have a longer range. The main thing is gradually, slowly.
I hope we have at least a rough idea of ​​how long all this can last. Because if this continues for another year, then the enemy will already have mobilized all his capabilities and large capital will be fully involved. And by that time the boundaries of what is permissible were blurring significantly...

[sgrabik]

The SVO must be completed within 2024, if we do not have time to break up the Armed Forces of Ukraine this year and denazify the Banderlogs, then it will be much more difficult to do this, there is only one conclusion - there should be no pauses in hostilities and, moreover, there should be no further separate negotiations, this is in in our own interests.

[Codett]

What can I say? Expected news. The only question is which of the “friends” of the states should I hand over, for example, Iskander, the main thing is to have the opportunity to answer, otherwise they will go further, although they will hand over F16, it’s a matter of time

[Scientist]

And they will go. Because you can’t win on “answers” ​​alone. You cannot win by completely giving the initiative in choosing the place and method of strike to the enemy.

[FighterD]

This is news from which parallel reality?
Can you tell me what stage the Ukrainian Armed Forces initiative is at now?

[Msi]

Can you tell me what stage the Ukrainian Armed Forces initiative is at now?

At the stage of not accepting reality...

[Codett]

I agree with you, the only question is that the Yankees are fighting with someone else’s hands, but we are not, and I believe that, if possible, we need to arm those who oppose them, there are simply doubts that we will hit NATO bases supplying the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It’s strange that they put minuses on my first comment, maybe I’m wrong about something. By the way, I mean the supply of more modern types of weapons.

[Pilot]

Quote: private person

our valiant air defense will try to shoot down those that take off

Just today, the guys fired at the police station in Kherson with Hymers and there were dead. Well, it’s not possible to cover the entire air defense front. We need a tough answer, one that would make the bitches tremble with fear of the imminent end.

This was not in Kherson itself, but in the region. Russian police officers were killed.

[Nastia makarova]

expensive and very scarce chimera missiles at the police station????

[Practitioner23354df]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

expensive and very scarce chimera missiles at the police station????

Pologi and Tokmak, Zaporozhye region. These expensive missiles are fired at for at least two days. Several times a day. A hospital, kindergarten and other civilian facilities are under attack. There are dead and wounded.

[VladMirU]

And...? What, it's hard to predict? That's how it is at the top.....

[VladMirU]

And the “giants of thought” don’t give a damn (plant). They have:

"I have no thoughts about the people
I can’t live a day! ..
In the morning I smear a sandwich -
Immediately thought: what about the people?
And the caviar does not climb into the throat,
And compote does not pour into your mouth!
I will stand at the window at night.
And stand all night without sleep
All worried about Rasee,
How is she, poor woman? "

[Sergio Vo]

The Houthis and other regimes should also soon receive a lot of interesting “gifts” for Christmas for Americans working near them

[Foma_Petrov]

...The point here is not at all the task: "... to deprive the Russian military of a safe haven..."
...It’s just that the partners realized that the bitch would soon be finally “kicked out” of Avdeevka...
...And other territories adjacent to the peaceful liberated by the Russian Armed Forces - cities, towns and villages of Novorossiya...
And then from the territories bordering the Russian Federation...

...And harassing terrorist attacks with conventional artillery and MLRS (grads) will become impossible... They will sink into oblivion! (We will hope!..)

...These are these bad two-legged creatures... - and they are preparing to continue this meanness, but by other, more complex means!..
So it’s still worrying!

[Foma_Petrov]

It is not yet clear what kind of “entities” are so actively downvoting completely REASONABLE comments...
Well, if - Banderlog - then it’s clear...

And it’s unclear - for some reason they’ve gotten so loose here... they’re defecated bastards...

It’s worse if our locals are “patriotic idiots” in nature - THIS IS MUCH WORSE!..

Any cretin... is MORE DANGEROUS than ANY ENEMY!.. The truth is COMPLETELY KNOWN!..

[gryaznov.igor.]

And ours trade with these roosters, where is the logic - they are our enemies

[Voronezh]

I wonder, have we deprived them of their Boeing titanium or are we religiously fulfilling their contracts? Or maybe they stopped supplying uranium?

[sgrabik]

We are very honest and noble, we love to strictly follow the rules, even though no one else follows these rules except us.

[Damien_C]

Russia should arm Syrian militias that attack US bases with Iskanders in retaliation

[digger]

Putin, as always, is chewing snot. Amers are already openly boasting about supplying their weapons that will effectively kill Russian soldiers. This is not a red line. It's time to issue an ultimatum to the United States. Stop supplies immediately, otherwise all American bases in Syria and Iraq will be destroyed.

[Nastia makarova]

In Syria and Iraq, these bases have been significantly ironed over the last month

[isv000]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

In Syria and Iraq, these bases have been significantly ironed over the last month

After “ironing”, it’s usually easier to build a new base, but these ones cost...

[zontov79]

Oh really ?? Why do these bases still exist if they have been well ironed?? We don’t need to wipe away this nonsense here, we have already realized that our leadership is like a limp organ. It seems like it is, but there’s no point!

[zontov79]

I won’t accept that we can’t supply missiles and drones to the Iraqis, Syrians, and God knows who else to properly hit American bases. ??? Then maybe these bastards would stop supplying them.

[mitlantecutli_zen]

Es penoso escuchar cómo le suministrana lis nazis cada vez más mortífero y moderno armamento sin que Russia reaccione con potencia. Ya nadie habla de líneas rojas, ni siquiera Putin, porque sería ridículo.

[zontov79]

But soft-hearted Putin doesn’t want to deprive the American military of safe haven in Syria, Iraq, and other countries??

[nightwolf1991]

Well, this missile has already been intercepted by our air defense guys more than once. But still, the news is not the most pleasant. We rely on our valiant air defense, on their training and capabilities. And the Ukrainians and the Anglo-Saxons should be given a good lesson and fear. In any case, guys, OUR CASE IS RIGHT, THE ENEMY WILL BE DEFEATED, VICTORY WILL BE OURS!

[501 Legion]

if not for the mumblers who talk about the blows. then each transfer of such equipment should have been accompanied by attacks not only on “decision-making centers” but also on the point where this stuff is delivered to the ports and airports of Germany and Poland

[wladomir]

There is no doubt that these and other long-range missiles will appear in Ukrainians It is not necessary. The question is whether we were prepared to neutralize these threats. Or, as always, first hundreds of people will die, and then our top brass will start to stir.

[RED_ICE]

House of Culture, military hospital, police department building in the village. And this is just the beginning of the use of these missiles

[Khokhol Polish farm laborer]

Russia hits more than 10 objects on the outskirts every night!! This will not save dill, it will intensify attacks on outskirts positions and the rear!!

[Zaurbek]

ATACMS gives Ukraine the ability to launch long-range strikes, denying Russian troops a safe haven

This will complicate the logistics and support of our troops with attack aircraft and Ka52s..... this is bad and can only be definitively cured by supplying similar systems somewhere in the war zone for shelling American bases (British, French, etc.).

[Kostadinov]

It has always been this way. The states fought in Vietnam - the Union supplied weapons to Ho Chi Minh. The Union fought in Afghanistan - the states supplied weapons to the Mujahideen.

There is a "small" but very important difference. Afghanistan and especially Ukraine today are located on the borders of the USSR and Russia, respectively, and Vietnam is ten thousand kilometers from the United States.
No Soviet weapons delivered to Vietnam and Korea could reach the United States.
When the USSR delivered such weapons to Cuba, the United States brought the world to the threshold of a global nuclear war and forced the USSR to withdraw it.
ATAKAMS and Storm Shadow with a lightweight warhead are capable of reaching Moscow from the territory of Ukraine, but the Russian reaction was very mild, in fact there was no such reaction to the USA and NATO.

[isv000]

Now Washington has decided to officially confirm the transfer of this strike weapon.

Is there paper, is there a recording? In my opinion, this confession amounts to an article confirming the participation of the United States in the database against Russia.
The “Hegemon,” of course, doesn’t care about any documents, but Karl! You can shake it like they shook the test tube at the UN.

[Krilion]

when the dust settles, the Americans will need to present an invoice for damages for every cartridge, missile, armored car, etc. supplied to the Ukrainians, since these supplies kill our fellow citizens.. but I’m afraid that the Russian leadership will let everything go on the brakes..

[Bodipancher]

The entire forum tsipsota perked up and crawled out. The faith of the Mykols in wunderwaffe is ineradicable)))

[agond]

Yesterday the US delivered shorter-range missiles, today slightly longer, tomorrow they will deliver even longer, they can deploy missiles in the Baltics and Finland, they are conducting exercises in the Baltic with landing troops, they can blockade Kaliningrad from the sea, they have many options and possibilities, the only response to such actions can be extreme measures, such as starting nuclear weapons tests, but it is not clear where